Thank you, I really appreciate it! I struggled understanding what I could do with my life through and after college and hope that these videos can expose people to some options.
I went for Computer Science because I thought it would be great for an introvert like myself. Boy was I wrong. You spend more time in meetings then you are coding.
I tell everyone. I mean everyone. Jump to US Forestry. Best move I ever made. You literally can start going anything and in a few years let the government pay for school/training. I started as a fence mending crew. But after a few years when I was 21 I moved into law enforcement. Then at 22 I was at Quantico training to be a Marshal.
Especially when living around public land, I agree there's a lot of options and support when starting. I grew up away from fed public land so it was intimidating getting started with work but I definitely would agree with you.
@Fortunate Accidents So the application for all of these positions generally is through USAJobs when it comes to the feds(you can realistically find these jobs or close to them not with the feds necessarily). The biggest things for people outside of the kinds of work is just tailoring in your experience to a fed resume and shopping around for jobs. Most of these start out season (though not all) it's just where you are and if you get lucky. If you're looking science I'm planning on making some more of these no degree videos that expand more or for recreations but generally there are plenty of options that start out small amounts of science and mostly labor until you have experience haha. If you're a city dweller and live in a city with a land grant university you can reach out and see if they need any very basic usually more labor intensive help (they're usually stacked and do) and they might hire you through a university and get actual science experience building. Schools obviously going to help out but a lot of programs can help you pay for school or provide a lot of different advantages. When I was 24 I dropped everything (except my debt haha) and went to do Americorps NCCC which took me away from my job of 4 years that I absolutely hated and was a total wildcard move but I was very depressed at the time(definitely not a recommendation just what I did). It got me started in conservation and alleviated my financial stress a lot for a year and helped me restart me life. Ton of other programs like this you can do. Americorps FEMA Corps helps you get hired to fema, theres conservation corps that pay varying amounts of money. I've since gotten trained through a firehouse to work on wildland/structure fires. I have been in the stuck spot and the world is SOOOO open which is why I made this channel.
Awesome video man, even after three years this video still gives me the information i need. I am starting work for the Conservation corps and i really hope that itll open up opportunities for me to work in the fire service. this makes me very excited for the future as coming straight out of highschool im looking for a career that requires minimal/no schooling.
I was a seasonal park aid for 7 years, could never become a ranger because of the rampant nepotism practiced in hiring. Yes they are government jobs that are technically required to interview everyone for EEO reasons BUT rangers almost always hire new rangers from inside employees of the park system not outside AND its very cliquey, if you are not a favorite seasonal pet of a ranger that already works there you can forget ever getting hired. Parks only hire rangers pet seasonals for permenant jobs, if you are a bit different than most people already working there you can forget it
Thats probably not every situation but I've definitely experienced this. Made two attempts for the same park, I was overqualified for the job before applying, gave two great interviews and was rejected both times. Each time I was interviewed by the same two rangers at the same time and each time they were both very "nose up" toward me the entire interview. Quickly breezed over all of the skills and experience that I did have and drilled the hell out of the things I didn't know (which I was very open and honest about).
I can relate to this in a sense. I worked for the California Conservation Corps in Humboldt county. Fortuna center to be exact. It was one the best experiences I’ve ever had. I was so grateful to do the hard work and to work in the redwoods, the outdoors in general. But it was also one of the most mentally draining jobs I’ve had. I received a lot of discrimination and was treated very differently. The staff had a lot of favoritism towards different Corpsmembers the bosses would be so unprofessional. It really lost my motivation in working in Conservation work. My heart is really heavy because I loved the program but hated the people who ran it..
The fire jobs pay as much or less than the other jobs. The difference is number of hours. You also get 25% hazard pay if you are on an active fire. You could get 100 hrs in a week. If you’re a hotshot, you could go from fire to fire all summer+. If you are on an engine crew you could be pounding the ground 24hrs before going to 12 on/ off. Most fires are fought with shovels ( at least 25+ yrs ago).
Yeaaaah, even with the money they’re adding and taking away here and there it still can be pretty rough. Video is mostly coming from as a broke East coaster I wish I had known about WF summer gigs because at the time that was a lot of money for me. Paid in sunsets haha.
Very informative video! I'm going to watch others. QUESTION: in 1986 I read an autobiography of a National Park Ranger that worked in a wide range of fields and parks. A great deal of the book covered stories of him catching poachers. The book made me get very close to pursuing a career with the National Parks. I've been hunting for the book for a few years and I wonder if someone here might have a lead. Drop a reply!
❤Thank you for creating this video I've noticed in my line of work that there are many people who take the traditional route via school but there are other options clearly.❤E
Thank you I was set on becoming a park ranger but heard you need a bachelor's degree which seemed a bit much. I also heard you don't NEED one but it's preferred.
Yeah, that ones really tricky and agency specific. A lot of jobs that are in the rec department that people wouldn’t apply to as often got labeled “ranger” but they all help you get started on a career path which leads into the world of rec. if you look at county/city postings a lot of the times it’s more maintenance based , and with agencies like the BLM and other DOI ones (also FS I think?) a lot of the time you’ll do stuff like maintenance, trail work, and visitor stuff at the front desks depending on the posting. I’ve got two videos kinda going more into types of jobs, just really know it’s a generic term and depends on the agency/location in question. A REAL sleeper job in the rec world that everybody gabs about wishing they even applied to is maintenance. You get paid more, learn more skills, and do legitimately all of the rec and sometimes resources work in a park or public land plus the title turns off bachelors degrees from it haha. Best of luck man.
I'd rather not go to college because 1: the debt is to extreme even with debt relief programs 2: with almost 5 years of work experience you can get almost any well paying job other than one the need special schooling
yes college is not only a waste of time consisting of going into debt watching free youtubes shown by professors, it also does not give you any marketable skills and you lose those years you could be earning
Landing even an entry level role in federal is like impossible. Always getting declined even when I will be taking a major pay cut to do something I would enjoy.
I would add: Research the opportunities coming from the American Conservation Experience. It is geared towards young people with an interest in everything he explained, and could help further develop your (future) career!
the USAjobs site says "Selective Service Registration is required for males born after 12/31/1959" but the Selective Service website says "Once a man turns 26, he is no longer able to register." if you didn't register on time, are you just locked out of a government job?
Woof, I'll be honest, I have no idea. This is a good reddit or chatGPT question. I have always been under the impression that if you're a non criminal (even then with exceptions) US citizen you should be able to apply. I would imagine if you ever took out student loans or used many other federal services you should be already enrolled. Idk though honestly, I'd love to know the outcome on this if you look into it.
Hi, I just want to say that I really appreciate this video, I'm straight out of high school and would like to work in the forest service to some compacity. I'm taking a gap year right now to save for college to most likely get an environmental science degree, but as you laid it out maybe that's not necessary? Honestly all the jobs you listed in the video sound great, what do you think would be the best place to start to get into work in the service right now? What resources should I access, should I volunteer at any parks for job experience, what is the process to actually get these jobs, basically, what can I do to get my foot in the door?
Hey, so it’s awesome that you’re looking into careers so early, most people breeze through college and are picking up the pieces after like I did haha. So I’ve been asked this a few times and made a hiring pathways as well as Americorps job benefits video that might be able to provide more, but essentially this early on you’ve got a ton of options and room to grow from all of them. Right out of high school you will definitely be able to do fire and park guide for nps but might struggle with some GS4 postings unless you have some general job experience already. A really great option IMO though is conservation corps, you get a bit of pay, a bit of travel, a bit of money for college (with opportunities to look for more grants and aid being helped by doing the work depending on where you are) and probably the most valuable part is getting to learn about resumes and job culture at whatever agency your corps works with. You can do anywhere from a couple of months to a year depending on the program. The biggest draw (other than filling time maybe haha) of the longer ones is getting public land corps status, however if you want to go to college you might not be able to take advantage so there’s no problem doing a shorter term right out of high school and unsure about college. If you decide to go to college look into pathways internships with FS BLM and FW maybe even NRCS and the Soil Service. You can shop USAJobs for these but going into agency hiring events websites or reaching out to ones near you is way more efficient IMO. This will allow you to work as many hours as you want as a fed for most of college and have a job waiting once you get out. Sorry if this is a bit all over the place and hope this helps with starting the search.
Hey idk if youll see this but im a 24 year old dishwasher who's trying to find a way into forestry. Idk what im doing and while this video was helpful for deciding which path to take, im having trouble looking for jobs that im qualified for. Im technically qualified for GS 2 (havent been to college) but there aren't any jobs that have that as a minimum requirement. What are your recommendations?
Hey man, sorry for the late response. I’ve been trying to get the ball back rolling with making stuff and responding but life has been busy and it’s hard. As an opening thought, if you are out of high school, you qualify for at least GS3 for any job posting haha, so don’t fret about that. If you’re looking for forestry gigs, I have a could have videos and due to my exposure I heavily write about fed stuff but like I’d say look into private forestry work. There’s usually 100s of smaller foresters listed on a license page state by state. They need entry level people to do the cutting and other work a lot like construction. If you’re in a more urban area that and arborist companies are a great deal, if you’re near forest there’s usually huge companies (graybacks and junk like that, there’s a lot). I’m not the 100% best person for your situation but I hope there’s a lead in here somewhere to get to somebody near you. Lots of options and you can generally to make a competitive salary with a lot of hard work. Good luck!
@ecologystorymode no worries man, thank you so much this actually really helps. I really appreciate you taking the time to reply and giving me sound advice!
Had not thought about wildland fire; I'm an RN who is burned out on the healthcare field, and owe a ton to my university for the pleasure; wanted to work in forestry but had next to nothing for requirements... BUT I do have tons of experience with offroad/hazardous weather driving, handtools and police work; so radios/dispatching and communication aren't new for me... I really need to find out who to chat with about what kind of fit I could get without having to get MORE school debt. Already in my 30's but waking up, loading a truck and driving out into the woods for a job sounds more like a vacation I get paid for - even if manual labor is involved! Just has to pay well enough to justify leaving nursing... So I will start digging! Thank you for the video, keep up the awesome work.
Always awesome to look into the outdoors work, and I also used to do medical work when I was younger and definitely get it. There are a ton of options that this video doesn’t even touch on(kind of an old video and a lot more time to reflect haha) but just with Fire there’s an entire infrastructure based on the medical side with medical staff located at fire camps as well as fire line EMTs depending on the kind of certifications you have going in. They’re through private contracting by states and feds so reaching out to a state forestry department and asking where to go might be a good start. Maybe some traveling nursing companies contract for fire work? Kinda the limit of my knowledge there and some ideas. Also for law enforcement rangers which is a higher paying and promotion field you having a degree of any kind will be big and honestly the experience appreciated because there’s a lot of simple EMS stuff in remote areas. However I also get just getting completely away from it all, I worked for 5 years only in healthcare and experienced massive burnout which I definitely don’t feel doing any environmental science. These are some good starting ideas and fields to look into within agencies but especially just having a degree and your experience might go a long way and hope you don’t just start from square one. Hope something here helps and let me know if you have anything more specific in mind, just some general ideas.
I got red carded volunteering with my county in CO. Through them I got my S-120, 180, and my 2-80 in a fire class at college. I majored on forestry with a concentration in forest fire science
Hey Cory I have the exact same story. I am in my 30s working in healthcare and I realized I canʻt do this for the rest of my life. Just started to research careers that let me be in the outdoors. Can I connect with you? If you were able to find anything would like so know or maybe as I do some research I can share with you things I found.
Shty. I cant do manual labor or be in the heat due to previous permanent injuring caused in childhood then continuing in the employment offered in my hometown.
I have janitorial experience.& More to under my what people call their belts over the years growing up to. I've always wanted to get in the forestry department myself since I was young. I also know how to work on small engines.& Vehicles some to. Along with other things like helping with cutting.& Cleaning up with 🎄 falling.& Trimming & topping work to.
Try to get an internship through American Conservation Experience or a couple seasonal gigs with USFS and then eventually you can get a full time job as a Recreation Technician. I believe you need either a degree or one year of previous experience at the GS04 level to get the permanent GS05 gig. Volunteering/internships count as GS04 towards that requirement.
Damn shame I can't even find a job similar in my province... This shit sucks not being able to find a job that I want literally anywhere near me. I'd have to move across Canada again just for the chance
Good luck. I have an MS in natural resource management 15 years experience in parks and public lands, and if your not a veteran, and even if you are, all these jobs are temp jobs. You cant survive with any quality of life.
Yeah, this isn’t an invalid point. When I made this I was working in some more remote areas and while you can absolutely find full time spots on a lot of these, it’s really field office dependent and luck dependent for postings. I now work in a more competitive environment and would probably reframe this years later.
This is a yr late but i just turned 32 and had the same question. Looks like its 2/3yrs of grinding at lower level jobs before it pays any decent. Sucks bec this would be a dream job if it payed better 😢
“Which oof good for you” 😂 was thinking of changing from wildlife management and ecosystem sciences to forestry. Now I’m thinking I’ve already wasted a lot of money
Haha, as somebody that does science because I'm kinda introverted, that' the feeling. And depending on your goal I hope it doesn't feel like a waste. The investment might help you get somewhere you really want. I personally just grew up broke and uninformed about the options I had, hence making the job related videos. Good luck with stuff!
Your dog can stay with you at home wherever you move, but he can’t come to work with you and probably can’t live with you if you live in agency provided housing either
I've looked at a lot of these jobs and most have work experience requirements (like range technician, the postings I've seen say no education but 4 seasons of specialized work experience). How would one get into the field? I am lucky enough to be working a summer season at a local state park but are there any jobs I could go into right out of high school to get that experience?
Honestly, you'd likely get better pay working at a local Bass Pro or REI. Get your degree. Get a degree in literally anything. So long as you have that piece of paper that says you're indebted to the federal government or a bank, your options open up and your pay doubles.
Thank you so much for this video! I would love to do any of the jobs on this list! However I am in Europe, not the US, and when I word search these jobs over here I can't seem to find anything very similar... Do you know anything about entry level environmental jobs abroad?
Hey, the best tip that I can give here personally (without knowing specifics of things you might want) is that all of these agencies for land management get majority of their employment through non federal contracts (just kind of how it works with land management in the US). If you look into locations or agencies you can generally find the agencies that they're associated and maybe look there to get started. Good luck!
Wah, did I. Absolutely loved it out there, had jobs out of Arcata and got lucky and did one on the Lost Coast trail. Beautiful area and only ran into a couple of sketchy things/ a lot of oak haha.
I’m turning 28 and don’t have a HSD but working on my GED. I don’t have a criminal background and just wondering is there a possibility for a job like these for someone like me? And I’m sure some have it worse, I’m just wondering!!
Can you work any of these jobs, if you have a dog that you need to take care of at home? I cant leave my dog with my dad at home and i have to be the one to take care of him, but it would be interesting to work one of these jobs. Maybe as a guide if its local? Can you bring your dog to wherever you live in any of the other jobs? Is there somewhere you all sleep together with your coworkers? You didnt explain what the living situation for any of these jobs is like
Hi, I know this is an old video but I hope you see this: I am currently going to college for Sociology (not necessarily my first choice in majors, long story) and my petition to switch to an environmental studies degree was denied by my university because I am lacking the prerequisites. Do you think getting the sociology degree anyways while taking environmental classes on the side would be beneficial to me for working in these fields? I hate to get an expensive degree that won't help me in my career of choice.
Hey, so I'm assuming that you are going to school in the US and that's why you're on the federal videos (I swear my channel will branch out in the future haha). I don't know if I can answer all of your questions perfectly but that sounds like it really sucks with whatever school you're at. There are (as many people find out too late unfortunately) many environmental jobs that don't require a degree at all, www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/610710100 this is just an example through USAjobs. There are many other ways to approach this though which could potentially give you some relief. If you want to go into environmental work but are lacking in the major coursework there are lots of examples of jobs from environmental education, to recreation, to I'm sure many more things that you could get involved in. As much as some people find the wildland firefighter, or the staff that's in the creek to be the all-stars when they view environmental work, it truly takes a village. I'd suggest looking into non profits maybe such as the nature conservancy and others, maybe looking at a list of jobs within any agency you'd like really. I used to be really big on rushing things and impulsive and I had my career put on standby(in many ways I still feel it is haha) because I didn't assess things. I would say just step back, look at some agencies you like and jobs, see what it'd REALLY take to get there from where you are. Set a specific goal for yourself and talk to an advisor again in regards to class. Definitively look at recent grad programs and internships if you have years of school left (fed/state/private). That exposure will do more for you than any single class will. I'm not sure if anything in this is helpful, it stinks to run into walls, but it's awesome that you're finding out what interests you. When I first started college I was going to be a nurse haha, I get it.
@@ecologystorymode I really appreciate the thorough response, thank you so much! I guess I will have to start looking at specifics and narrow my goals down. Your channel is just excellent, keep up the great and informative work!
@@remingtonrr7848 I really appreciate it and hope something I make or respond is helpful. If its any help I was always really self conscious starting out with environmental/ outdoors work. Now that I'm working and have worked at many field offices the vast minority of people go point A to point B even in the private sector, and it's super common to have realized later that being involved in environmental stuff is what you want to do(there's a million ways to do it, and you'll probably run into some I've never even thought of). I'm planning on making stuff that helps with resumes and doing more actionable things for peoples early careers soon. Really, best of luck, just doing some early job research is a huge step.
Definitely. BLM and NPS both have full time GS0025 Park Rangers. USFS has a few, but they mostly use the GS0462 RecTech series for a lot of the job functions the non-LE Rangers do in other agencies. But either way they’re all available year round depending on location. Usually you have to start seasonal first, but then you can go permanent, full time (PFT)
How can i apply for the job i am really interested.i don't have any idea that i can apply for the forest service job and i am a student of forestry field. Please help me to apply for the job.
Employers are probably gonna be stingy about that, but as long as your last crime was a reasonable time ago, like a year or 2 and you got some people to vouch for you, you might be fine
Yeah, this is like a, foot in the door material. TBH I’m years off this channel and since finding work I like which is kinda outside of this video even it’s better taking continued education and all of that. I also struggled doing college and school for school. This videos hope might be out of date with current economic struggle more than when it came out but like I generally feel better finding work I like and investing into that instead of just nebulous school. To each their own though dawg. Good luck and I love you!
So, while I don't know the entirety of the requirements for this one I do know of people that do it. It is possible but it is definitely more difficult than being a permanent resident. One tip that I've got talking to people over the years from outside of the US is finding agencies that are non federal that work in the same area or do the same type of work you might specifically be looking for. Agencies in the US aren't the biggest employers on public land and generally contract out (as well as not paying as much) for a lot of types of work. That is one easy way around the whole issue, allows for higher earning potential (which a lot of people here need haha) and offers a lot more opportunity. Just an idea on the whole thing(not sure if other countries contract as much as the US for essential land management), hope it helps.
@@ecologystorymode I'm graduate from bsc forestry if I do my master's from us ,it's possible to me for getting hired for forest jobs ,such as park ranger, forestor anything something like that from nps or get some contract from federal government
In short, probably not. Obviously though it depends on what you want out of it, what kind of financial commitments you're dealing with and stuff though. I was very broke with few ties and started a bit older myself professionally. That's not necessarily the same cards everyone's dealt though so its really individual. There's not great paying options that are just about passion for work. There's options that give a lot of money but maybe lack with work/ life balance. The sheer volume of options is kind of why I made this channel directed towards job stuff. I always wanted to do "science" and "environmental" stuff and couldn't find an in. Now that I'm in (started out very broke and uninformed coming up) I realize there's almost too many options. Just fitting the options to the lifestyle you want and expectations can be kinda tricky sometimes.
Hello, sorry for the late response. As long as the minimum requirements are met anybody can apply, I believe there’s some job postings for examples in the description box. It is however harder to get a lot of jobs in the US when coming from outside of the US. I’m not too familiar with the process but I definitely have worked with plenty of people from outside of the US. An easier route might be starting at looking at the university systems where a lot more international people work for botany jobs (lab/field) and going out from there.
Who in the actual unholy fuck would want to get into this type of work to be a guide or interact with the crazies, I mean public? I want to walk/hike 20+ miles a day and listen to audiobooks in the middle of nowhere, hope I'm not delusional.
I purchased a farm with a forest swamp and Marsh the United States Department of Defense the United States Department of the Pentagon the United States Department of the Navy arranged for me to land my aircraft on an aircraft carrier so that I could repair the reactor in Yemen I was taken hostage in prisoner of war I was only in Yemen to repair the reactor with inspector repair after I took a test and passed the test for the United States Department of Defense subcontractor inspector that repairs reactor with inspector repair I am a licensed fishermen and Hunter and have had licensing to fish and hunt in the past but I had no intentions of anyone ever hunting or fishing on my property I also had no intentions of their ever being any commercial construction or any construction on my property other than the farmhouse home and Barnes and greenhouses to grow fruits and vegetables I did speak to a forestry officer in the past about my wildlife birds my eagles owls Hawks the beavers the Badgers and the five squirrels that I rescued squirrels live to be 100 years old and it is a felony to murder an eagle it is also a felony to murder an owl or squirrels the squirrels were rescued they were 28 years old and had five 3 year old babies and they murdered them and taxidermy them and doves and an eagle they taxidermy them and place them in their yards as yard ornaments I returned from being held hostage and prisoner of war to find that my fences were down my Gates were down my green silos had been removed my farm had a makeshift school being built on it and a Walmart neighborhood market and supposedly ramshackle houses built on my property that I purchased I didn't ever stop making my payments I paid for the insurance and I paid for a wildlife protection insurance and when I was going to yemen and I paid the United States forestry Department the Tennessee highway patrol the Kentucky highway patrol the Clarksville Montgomery County Sheriff's department and the Trigg County Sheriff's Department and I don't understand why it is that my property hasn't been protected and why all of this ramshackle is on my property I want all of this ramshackle structures removed and all of the so-called asphalt and concrete streets and driveways removed from my property and I want all of these criminals removed from my property interested for wildlife murder and taxidermy D Anna Hensley Hawkins
So, no you don’t, but if you take college classes they can help you by counting as some of your experience required as there are minimum qualifications for GS3 and GS4 postings. Having any sort of experience for 6 months of work or school will qualify you for a 3 and adding some school or more specific work experience for a 4. This can be very broad and I haven’t made a resume video yet however usually just showing you can drive off roads, work outdoors comfortably, and are comfortable doing physical work is sufficient. The description box has links to some job descriptions so you can look at how they word it and cater your experience to it. If you are completely unfamiliar with federal applications I’d suggest learning about federal resumes because they’re different than a normal one. But yeah, especially park guides, rangers at the GS3/4 level, and firefighters generally do not have a college degree before joining the work force or work those jobs while going to college in some cases. Range techs that I’ve worked with haven’t had degrees but have done military, conservation corps, or some sort of invasive weeds removal work before joining. Sorry if this is a bit over the place and hope something helps!
Not very well and hopefully not for long as a GS4 haha. A lot of the areas that these jobs are at the cost of living isn’t very high (and in cities it’s adjusted to up to 50k) but the survivability of the wage really just depends on where in the country you are. The hope would be youre not down with debt and you get a job that’s on a promotional scale. For land management agencies you can generally work up to a GS 9 without a degree (unfortunately and it looks like that’s hopefully changing following how wildfire is looking). Some better option is anything on the WG scale that generally involves maintenance and trades, if you’re with an environmental agency it pays more and you still are going to get to do conservation work. It’s been a while since making this video and there’s definitely better options depending on what you’re looking to get from the whole thing. GS3 FFs make good money even if they don’t fill their off season too. This is all just first year on job no degree going in stuff from the vid. Definitely have more room to explain how to make a living and not just get a bad paying job haha.
If you’re looking for higher paying positions then law enforcement rangers make decent money but generally require anywhere from 60 college credits to a degree based on what state you’re in so not on here. All the states I’ve worked in it leads to a six figure career and is a super fun and competitive job. If you just want to build stuff outside there’s engineering jobs you can go into and do the actual construction side of outdoors stuff like bridges/ steps/ erosion work that gets paid well also(don’t know the education for this, I think mostly trade). Not that it’s for everyone and not trying to push anything but those are a couple sides of recreation that are profitable and more common even in less rural areas. Hope it’s helpful.
It's pretty doable living on slightly over a grand a month, particularly for a single person in a more rural area with around $500-$600 rent. Obviously with the intention to make more in a few years.
@@masterofnone1481 hey asshole scripts are worse than street drugs sometimes do yourself a favor and just shut the fuck up about subjects you know absolutely nothing about.
@@niksatt4843 Get off the drugs and stop making excuses. Clean your damn room before trying to fix the world, or you will forever be a loser like you are right now.
Actually for the US Forest Service you need a degree. I had a coworker who trained me doing FIA who didn’t. He was let go be of it. Of course it was as a GS-6. Yes, with fire you don’t. As a park ranger for the NPS my previous experience as a county park ranger. Who wants to take a position as a GS-3?
Simple answer: your wildfire card. Fuller a bit answer: It’s an incident qualification and tracking card that if you work with wildfire or other incidents you keep on you to have a record of jobs your qualified for and can get called up based on.
I purchased a farm with a forest swamp and Marsh the United States Department of Defense the United States Department of the Pentagon the United States Department of the Navy arranged for me to land my aircraft on an aircraft carrier so that I could repair the reactor in Yemen I was taken hostage in prisoner of war I was only in Yemen to repair the reactor with inspector repair after I took a test and passed the test for the United States Department of Defense subcontractor inspector that repairs reactor with inspector repair I am a licensed fishermen and Hunter and have had licensing to fish and hunt in the past but I had no intentions of anyone ever hunting or fishing on my property I also had no intentions of their ever being any commercial construction or any construction on my property other than the farmhouse home and Barnes and greenhouses to grow fruits and vegetables I did speak to a forestry officer in the past about my wildlife birds my eagles owls Hawks the beavers the Badgers and the five squirrels that I rescued squirrels live to be 100 years old and it is a felony to murder an eagle it is also a felony to murder an owl or squirrels the squirrels were rescued they were 28 years old and had five 3 year old babies and they murdered them and taxidermy them and doves and an eagle they taxidermy them and place them in their yards as yard ornaments I returned from being held hostage and prisoner of war to find that my fences were down my Gates were down my green silos had been removed my farm had a makeshift school being built on it and a Walmart neighborhood market and supposedly ramshackle houses built on my property that I purchased I didn't ever stop making my payments I paid for the insurance and I paid for a wildlife protection insurance and when I was going to yemen and I paid the United States forestry Department the Tennessee highway patrol the Kentucky highway patrol the Clarksville Montgomery County Sheriff's department and the Trigg County Sheriff's Department and I don't understand why it is that my property hasn't been protected and why all of this ramshackle is on my property I want all of this ramshackle structures removed and all of the so-called asphalt and concrete streets and driveways removed from my property and I want all of these criminals removed from my property interested for wildlife murder and taxidermy D Anna Hensley Hawkins
thank you for your environmental career videos! i feel like there is a major need for environmental career focused content.
Thank you, I really appreciate it! I struggled understanding what I could do with my life through and after college and hope that these videos can expose people to some options.
As an introvert I loved the "oof. Good for you" part. Had me dying 😭😭
Not in the sciences to spend too much time around too many people haha.
I went for Computer Science because I thought it would be great for an introvert like myself. Boy was I wrong. You spend more time in meetings then you are coding.
@@ecologystorymode I died. I relate way too hard to that 😂😂😂
So relatable 😂😂
Yep 🙌🏽
I tell everyone. I mean everyone. Jump to US Forestry. Best move I ever made. You literally can start going anything and in a few years let the government pay for school/training.
I started as a fence mending crew. But after a few years when I was 21 I moved into law enforcement. Then at 22 I was at Quantico training to be a Marshal.
Especially when living around public land, I agree there's a lot of options and support when starting. I grew up away from fed public land so it was intimidating getting started with work but I definitely would agree with you.
how would i get started in it? learning about nature just sounds incredible even if it takes some time.
Kool stuff I would like to be a park ranger I currently work for the feds now but would like to change and be a park ranger
How much do you get paid as a entree level?
I’m near quantico, any chance you can help me get into the environmental field or help get a job!
This video is truly a true Gem. I did an Internship with Fish and Wildlife and now I’m looking into being a ranger. Wish me luck
Good luck my friend
I appreciate everybody watching. Let me know about other cool jobs you've learned about that somebody entering the work force can look for!
@Fortunate Accidents So the application for all of these positions generally is through USAJobs when it comes to the feds(you can realistically find these jobs or close to them not with the feds necessarily). The biggest things for people outside of the kinds of work is just tailoring in your experience to a fed resume and shopping around for jobs. Most of these start out season (though not all) it's just where you are and if you get lucky. If you're looking science I'm planning on making some more of these no degree videos that expand more or for recreations but generally there are plenty of options that start out small amounts of science and mostly labor until you have experience haha. If you're a city dweller and live in a city with a land grant university you can reach out and see if they need any very basic usually more labor intensive help (they're usually stacked and do) and they might hire you through a university and get actual science experience building. Schools obviously going to help out but a lot of programs can help you pay for school or provide a lot of different advantages. When I was 24 I dropped everything (except my debt haha) and went to do Americorps NCCC which took me away from my job of 4 years that I absolutely hated and was a total wildcard move but I was very depressed at the time(definitely not a recommendation just what I did). It got me started in conservation and alleviated my financial stress a lot for a year and helped me restart me life. Ton of other programs like this you can do. Americorps FEMA Corps helps you get hired to fema, theres conservation corps that pay varying amounts of money. I've since gotten trained through a firehouse to work on wildland/structure fires. I have been in the stuck spot and the world is SOOOO open which is why I made this channel.
Awesome video man, even after three years this video still gives me the information i need. I am starting work for the Conservation corps and i really hope that itll open up opportunities for me to work in the fire service. this makes me very excited for the future as coming straight out of highschool im looking for a career that requires minimal/no schooling.
I was a seasonal park aid for 7 years, could never become a ranger because of the rampant nepotism practiced in hiring. Yes they are government jobs that are technically required to interview everyone for EEO reasons BUT rangers almost always hire new rangers from inside employees of the park system not outside AND its very cliquey, if you are not a favorite seasonal pet of a ranger that already works there you can forget ever getting hired. Parks only hire rangers pet seasonals for permenant jobs, if you are a bit different than most people already working there you can forget it
Thats probably not every situation but I've definitely experienced this. Made two attempts for the same park, I was overqualified for the job before applying, gave two great interviews and was rejected both times. Each time I was interviewed by the same two rangers at the same time and each time they were both very "nose up" toward me the entire interview. Quickly breezed over all of the skills and experience that I did have and drilled the hell out of the things I didn't know (which I was very open and honest about).
I can relate to this in a sense. I worked for the California Conservation Corps in Humboldt county. Fortuna center to be exact. It was one the best experiences I’ve ever had. I was so grateful to do the hard work and to work in the redwoods, the outdoors in general. But it was also one of the most mentally draining jobs I’ve had. I received a lot of discrimination and was treated very differently. The staff had a lot of favoritism towards different Corpsmembers the bosses would be so unprofessional. It really lost my motivation in working in Conservation work. My heart is really heavy because I loved the program but hated the people who ran it..
The fire jobs pay as much or less than the other jobs. The difference is number of hours. You also get 25% hazard pay if you are on an active fire. You could get 100 hrs in a week. If you’re a hotshot, you could go from fire to fire all summer+. If you are on an engine crew you could be pounding the ground 24hrs before going to 12 on/ off. Most fires are fought with shovels ( at least 25+ yrs ago).
Yeaaaah, even with the money they’re adding and taking away here and there it still can be pretty rough. Video is mostly coming from as a broke East coaster I wish I had known about WF summer gigs because at the time that was a lot of money for me. Paid in sunsets haha.
Very informative video! I'm going to watch others. QUESTION: in 1986 I read an autobiography of a National Park Ranger that worked in a wide range of fields and parks. A great deal of the book covered stories of him catching poachers. The book made me get very close to pursuing a career with the National Parks. I've been hunting for the book for a few years and I wonder if someone here might have a lead. Drop a reply!
❤Thank you for creating this video I've noticed in my line of work that there are many people who take the traditional route via school but there are other options clearly.❤E
Thank you I was set on becoming a park ranger but heard you need a bachelor's degree which seemed a bit much. I also heard you don't NEED one but it's preferred.
Yeah, that ones really tricky and agency specific. A lot of jobs that are in the rec department that people wouldn’t apply to as often got labeled “ranger” but they all help you get started on a career path which leads into the world of rec. if you look at county/city postings a lot of the times it’s more maintenance based , and with agencies like the BLM and other DOI ones (also FS I think?) a lot of the time you’ll do stuff like maintenance, trail work, and visitor stuff at the front desks depending on the posting. I’ve got two videos kinda going more into types of jobs, just really know it’s a generic term and depends on the agency/location in question. A REAL sleeper job in the rec world that everybody gabs about wishing they even applied to is maintenance. You get paid more, learn more skills, and do legitimately all of the rec and sometimes resources work in a park or public land plus the title turns off bachelors degrees from it haha. Best of luck man.
@@ecologystorymode thanks man I appreciate you 😁🤙
I'd rather not go to college because
1: the debt is to extreme even with debt relief programs
2: with almost 5 years of work experience you can get almost any well paying job other than one the need special schooling
yes college is not only a waste of time consisting of going into debt watching free youtubes shown by professors, it also does not give you any marketable skills and you lose those years you could be earning
Fantastic video, thank you much man
Landing even an entry level role in federal is like impossible. Always getting declined even when I will be taking a major pay cut to do something I would enjoy.
I hope I can get a law enforcement ranger job once I get out of the military. Hopefully veteran preference can save me.
I would add: Research the opportunities coming from the American Conservation Experience. It is geared towards young people with an interest in everything he explained, and could help further develop your (future) career!
every opportunity is geared towards young people, if you are not one you are SOL
@@sashanealand8315 so frustrating :
the USAjobs site says "Selective Service Registration is required for males born after 12/31/1959" but the Selective Service website says "Once a man turns 26, he is no longer able to register." if you didn't register on time, are you just locked out of a government job?
Woof, I'll be honest, I have no idea. This is a good reddit or chatGPT question. I have always been under the impression that if you're a non criminal (even then with exceptions) US citizen you should be able to apply. I would imagine if you ever took out student loans or used many other federal services you should be already enrolled. Idk though honestly, I'd love to know the outcome on this if you look into it.
Man that's the type of job I want for real no doubt about it.
Hi, I just want to say that I really appreciate this video, I'm straight out of high school and would like to work in the forest service to some compacity. I'm taking a gap year right now to save for college to most likely get an environmental science degree, but as you laid it out maybe that's not necessary? Honestly all the jobs you listed in the video sound great, what do you think would be the best place to start to get into work in the service right now? What resources should I access, should I volunteer at any parks for job experience, what is the process to actually get these jobs, basically, what can I do to get my foot in the door?
Hey, so it’s awesome that you’re looking into careers so early, most people breeze through college and are picking up the pieces after like I did haha. So I’ve been asked this a few times and made a hiring pathways as well as Americorps job benefits video that might be able to provide more, but essentially this early on you’ve got a ton of options and room to grow from all of them. Right out of high school you will definitely be able to do fire and park guide for nps but might struggle with some GS4 postings unless you have some general job experience already. A really great option IMO though is conservation corps, you get a bit of pay, a bit of travel, a bit of money for college (with opportunities to look for more grants and aid being helped by doing the work depending on where you are) and probably the most valuable part is getting to learn about resumes and job culture at whatever agency your corps works with. You can do anywhere from a couple of months to a year depending on the program. The biggest draw (other than filling time maybe haha) of the longer ones is getting public land corps status, however if you want to go to college you might not be able to take advantage so there’s no problem doing a shorter term right out of high school and unsure about college. If you decide to go to college look into pathways internships with FS BLM and FW maybe even NRCS and the Soil Service. You can shop USAJobs for these but going into agency hiring events websites or reaching out to ones near you is way more efficient IMO. This will allow you to work as many hours as you want as a fed for most of college and have a job waiting once you get out. Sorry if this is a bit all over the place and hope this helps with starting the search.
Thank you for this resource
I use to work for WV Dept of Forestry
Hey idk if youll see this but im a 24 year old dishwasher who's trying to find a way into forestry. Idk what im doing and while this video was helpful for deciding which path to take, im having trouble looking for jobs that im qualified for. Im technically qualified for GS 2 (havent been to college) but there aren't any jobs that have that as a minimum requirement. What are your recommendations?
Hey man, sorry for the late response. I’ve been trying to get the ball back rolling with making stuff and responding but life has been busy and it’s hard. As an opening thought, if you are out of high school, you qualify for at least GS3 for any job posting haha, so don’t fret about that. If you’re looking for forestry gigs, I have a could have videos and due to my exposure I heavily write about fed stuff but like I’d say look into private forestry work. There’s usually 100s of smaller foresters listed on a license page state by state. They need entry level people to do the cutting and other work a lot like construction. If you’re in a more urban area that and arborist companies are a great deal, if you’re near forest there’s usually huge companies (graybacks and junk like that, there’s a lot). I’m not the 100% best person for your situation but I hope there’s a lead in here somewhere to get to somebody near you. Lots of options and you can generally to make a competitive salary with a lot of hard work. Good luck!
@ecologystorymode no worries man, thank you so much this actually really helps. I really appreciate you taking the time to reply and giving me sound advice!
@valenfox look into the American conservation experience. Seems like it would be a good foot in the door start for you.
Had not thought about wildland fire; I'm an RN who is burned out on the healthcare field, and owe a ton to my university for the pleasure; wanted to work in forestry but had next to nothing for requirements... BUT I do have tons of experience with offroad/hazardous weather driving, handtools and police work; so radios/dispatching and communication aren't new for me... I really need to find out who to chat with about what kind of fit I could get without having to get MORE school debt. Already in my 30's but waking up, loading a truck and driving out into the woods for a job sounds more like a vacation I get paid for - even if manual labor is involved! Just has to pay well enough to justify leaving nursing... So I will start digging! Thank you for the video, keep up the awesome work.
Always awesome to look into the outdoors work, and I also used to do medical work when I was younger and definitely get it. There are a ton of options that this video doesn’t even touch on(kind of an old video and a lot more time to reflect haha) but just with Fire there’s an entire infrastructure based on the medical side with medical staff located at fire camps as well as fire line EMTs depending on the kind of certifications you have going in. They’re through private contracting by states and feds so reaching out to a state forestry department and asking where to go might be a good start. Maybe some traveling nursing companies contract for fire work? Kinda the limit of my knowledge there and some ideas. Also for law enforcement rangers which is a higher paying and promotion field you having a degree of any kind will be big and honestly the experience appreciated because there’s a lot of simple EMS stuff in remote areas. However I also get just getting completely away from it all, I worked for 5 years only in healthcare and experienced massive burnout which I definitely don’t feel doing any environmental science. These are some good starting ideas and fields to look into within agencies but especially just having a degree and your experience might go a long way and hope you don’t just start from square one. Hope something here helps and let me know if you have anything more specific in mind, just some general ideas.
I got red carded volunteering with my county in CO. Through them I got my S-120, 180, and my 2-80 in a fire class at college. I majored on forestry with a concentration in forest fire science
Hey Cory I have the exact same story. I am in my 30s working in healthcare and I realized I canʻt do this for the rest of my life. Just started to research careers that let me be in the outdoors. Can I connect with you? If you were able to find anything would like so know or maybe as I do some research I can share with you things I found.
Cool video. Very interesting.
Shty. I cant do manual labor or be in the heat due to previous permanent injuring caused in childhood then continuing in the employment offered in my hometown.
I have janitorial experience.& More to under my what people call their belts over the years growing up to. I've always wanted to get in the forestry department myself since I was young. I also know how to work on small engines.& Vehicles some to. Along with other things like helping with cutting.& Cleaning up with 🎄 falling.& Trimming & topping work to.
Try to get an internship through American Conservation Experience or a couple seasonal gigs with USFS and then eventually you can get a full time job as a Recreation Technician. I believe you need either a degree or one year of previous experience at the GS04 level to get the permanent GS05 gig. Volunteering/internships count as GS04 towards that requirement.
unfortunately you sound too old, ageism in hiring is rampent
Damn shame I can't even find a job similar in my province...
This shit sucks not being able to find a job that I want literally anywhere near me. I'd have to move across Canada again just for the chance
Good luck. I have an MS in natural resource management 15 years experience in parks and public lands, and if your not a veteran, and even if you are, all these jobs are temp jobs. You cant survive with any quality of life.
Yeah, this isn’t an invalid point. When I made this I was working in some more remote areas and while you can absolutely find full time spots on a lot of these, it’s really field office dependent and luck dependent for postings. I now work in a more competitive environment and would probably reframe this years later.
Im 32. How many years of school would it take to make a living wage?
This is a yr late but i just turned 32 and had the same question. Looks like its 2/3yrs of grinding at lower level jobs before it pays any decent. Sucks bec this would be a dream job if it payed better 😢
Thanks man! 👍🏻
I appreciate it!
I work on natural resource management. Because it's not a conventional sector so the future is bit gloomy here. Can you suggest some alternative
“Which oof good for you” 😂 was thinking of changing from wildlife management and ecosystem sciences to forestry. Now I’m thinking I’ve already wasted a lot of money
Haha, as somebody that does science because I'm kinda introverted, that' the feeling. And depending on your goal I hope it doesn't feel like a waste. The investment might help you get somewhere you really want. I personally just grew up broke and uninformed about the options I had, hence making the job related videos. Good luck with stuff!
I'm willing to prove myself to whoever it takes in there to. I have A dog though that's attached to me alot if he can go with me I'll go for sure.
Your dog can stay with you at home wherever you move, but he can’t come to work with you and probably can’t live with you if you live in agency provided housing either
Thanks for information
YES THANK YOU!!
I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
Thankyou super helpful
I've looked at a lot of these jobs and most have work experience requirements (like range technician, the postings I've seen say no education but 4 seasons of specialized work experience). How would one get into the field? I am lucky enough to be working a summer season at a local state park but are there any jobs I could go into right out of high school to get that experience?
Honestly, you'd likely get better pay working at a local Bass Pro or REI.
Get your degree. Get a degree in literally anything. So long as you have that piece of paper that says you're indebted to the federal government or a bank, your options open up and your pay doubles.
Nooo there’s no captions:( I’m hard of hearing, I wish there were captions on videos!
Would you still have a job in the winter especially living in the northern hemisphere?
Been searching for these jobs on the internet but I can never find anything about a job available
I’m so interested 😮
Thank you so much for this video! I would love to do any of the jobs on this list! However I am in Europe, not the US, and when I word search these jobs over here I can't seem to find anything very similar... Do you know anything about entry level environmental jobs abroad?
Hey, the best tip that I can give here personally (without knowing specifics of things you might want) is that all of these agencies for land management get majority of their employment through non federal contracts (just kind of how it works with land management in the US). If you look into locations or agencies you can generally find the agencies that they're associated and maybe look there to get started. Good luck!
Looks like you made it to Humboldt County.
Wah, did I. Absolutely loved it out there, had jobs out of Arcata and got lucky and did one on the Lost Coast trail. Beautiful area and only ran into a couple of sketchy things/ a lot of oak haha.
@@ecologystorymodeyeah enjoy it while it lasts,by age 35-40 you will be unemployable as they only want the young
I’m turning 28 and don’t have a HSD but working on my GED. I don’t have a criminal background and just wondering is there a possibility for a job like these for someone like me? And I’m sure some have it worse, I’m just wondering!!
Can you work any of these jobs, if you have a dog that you need to take care of at home? I cant leave my dog with my dad at home and i have to be the one to take care of him, but it would be interesting to work one of these jobs. Maybe as a guide if its local? Can you bring your dog to wherever you live in any of the other jobs? Is there somewhere you all sleep together with your coworkers? You didnt explain what the living situation for any of these jobs is like
Hi, I know this is an old video but I hope you see this: I am currently going to college for Sociology (not necessarily my first choice in majors, long story) and my petition to switch to an environmental studies degree was denied by my university because I am lacking the prerequisites. Do you think getting the sociology degree anyways while taking environmental classes on the side would be beneficial to me for working in these fields? I hate to get an expensive degree that won't help me in my career of choice.
Hey, so I'm assuming that you are going to school in the US and that's why you're on the federal videos (I swear my channel will branch out in the future haha). I don't know if I can answer all of your questions perfectly but that sounds like it really sucks with whatever school you're at. There are (as many people find out too late unfortunately) many environmental jobs that don't require a degree at all, www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/610710100 this is just an example through USAjobs. There are many other ways to approach this though which could potentially give you some relief. If you want to go into environmental work but are lacking in the major coursework there are lots of examples of jobs from environmental education, to recreation, to I'm sure many more things that you could get involved in. As much as some people find the wildland firefighter, or the staff that's in the creek to be the all-stars when they view environmental work, it truly takes a village. I'd suggest looking into non profits maybe such as the nature conservancy and others, maybe looking at a list of jobs within any agency you'd like really. I used to be really big on rushing things and impulsive and I had my career put on standby(in many ways I still feel it is haha) because I didn't assess things. I would say just step back, look at some agencies you like and jobs, see what it'd REALLY take to get there from where you are. Set a specific goal for yourself and talk to an advisor again in regards to class. Definitively look at recent grad programs and internships if you have years of school left (fed/state/private). That exposure will do more for you than any single class will. I'm not sure if anything in this is helpful, it stinks to run into walls, but it's awesome that you're finding out what interests you. When I first started college I was going to be a nurse haha, I get it.
@@ecologystorymode I really appreciate the thorough response, thank you so much! I guess I will have to start looking at specifics and narrow my goals down. Your channel is just excellent, keep up the great and informative work!
@@remingtonrr7848 I really appreciate it and hope something I make or respond is helpful. If its any help I was always really self conscious starting out with environmental/ outdoors work. Now that I'm working and have worked at many field offices the vast minority of people go point A to point B even in the private sector, and it's super common to have realized later that being involved in environmental stuff is what you want to do(there's a million ways to do it, and you'll probably run into some I've never even thought of). I'm planning on making stuff that helps with resumes and doing more actionable things for peoples early careers soon. Really, best of luck, just doing some early job research is a huge step.
Can you work as an interpretive park ranger full time, year round???
Can you be a full-time, year round interpretive park ranger? I don't really want to be a LEO Park Ranger unless I have to :(
Definitely. BLM and NPS both have full time GS0025 Park Rangers. USFS has a few, but they mostly use the GS0462 RecTech series for a lot of the job functions the non-LE Rangers do in other agencies. But either way they’re all available year round depending on location. Usually you have to start seasonal first, but then you can go permanent, full time (PFT)
@@KnifeSandwich awesome! Thank you for the info!
Any construction job for the park service?
i still get denied. ugh
30k below the poverty line.
How can i apply for the job i am really interested.i don't have any idea that i can apply for the forest service job and i am a student of forestry field. Please help me to apply for the job.
What if your an ex felon but records clean can I get a job as a park ranger
Employers are probably gonna be stingy about that, but as long as your last crime was a reasonable time ago, like a year or 2 and you got some people to vouch for you, you might be fine
Are these jobs available for foreigners?
How bout as a 33 year old?
Hi how are you,did you get ur answer
@@Krishways55 no lol
@@masterofnone1481 🤝😊
Bro I'll pay the 35k I'm just not college material
Yeah, this is like a, foot in the door material. TBH I’m years off this channel and since finding work I like which is kinda outside of this video even it’s better taking continued education and all of that. I also struggled doing college and school for school. This videos hope might be out of date with current economic struggle more than when it came out but like I generally feel better finding work I like and investing into that instead of just nebulous school. To each their own though dawg. Good luck and I love you!
I'd like to work for BLM... Even if it's a tour guide for those who are visiting. How does one find these jobs? Thank you
do these organizations require vaccination
um excuse me, you forgot a couple states in your maps. alaska should be its own country at this point lol
Can foreigners be park rangers in us forest service, without permanent residency or citizenship?
So, while I don't know the entirety of the requirements for this one I do know of people that do it. It is possible but it is definitely more difficult than being a permanent resident. One tip that I've got talking to people over the years from outside of the US is finding agencies that are non federal that work in the same area or do the same type of work you might specifically be looking for. Agencies in the US aren't the biggest employers on public land and generally contract out (as well as not paying as much) for a lot of types of work. That is one easy way around the whole issue, allows for higher earning potential (which a lot of people here need haha) and offers a lot more opportunity. Just an idea on the whole thing(not sure if other countries contract as much as the US for essential land management), hope it helps.
@@ecologystorymode I'm graduate from bsc forestry if I do my master's from us ,it's possible to me for getting hired for forest jobs ,such as park ranger, forestor anything something like that from nps or get some contract from federal government
So don't need a college degree?
Is 32 too old to start in the field?
In short, probably not. Obviously though it depends on what you want out of it, what kind of financial commitments you're dealing with and stuff though. I was very broke with few ties and started a bit older myself professionally. That's not necessarily the same cards everyone's dealt though so its really individual. There's not great paying options that are just about passion for work. There's options that give a lot of money but maybe lack with work/ life balance. The sheer volume of options is kind of why I made this channel directed towards job stuff. I always wanted to do "science" and "environmental" stuff and couldn't find an in. Now that I'm in (started out very broke and uninformed coming up) I realize there's almost too many options. Just fitting the options to the lifestyle you want and expectations can be kinda tricky sometimes.
yes u are too old
Most of the seasonal employees I worked with got red cards to earn extra money. Anyone else out there float turds?
Those who had Bachelor degree in Botany from India can apply for this job.
Hello, sorry for the late response. As long as the minimum requirements are met anybody can apply, I believe there’s some job postings for examples in the description box. It is however harder to get a lot of jobs in the US when coming from outside of the US. I’m not too familiar with the process but I definitely have worked with plenty of people from outside of the US. An easier route might be starting at looking at the university systems where a lot more international people work for botany jobs (lab/field) and going out from there.
What is a red card???
A red card is the credential you need to work on a wildland fire. Hope this helps!
Hello
Hello 👋
Who in the actual unholy fuck would want to get into this type of work to be a guide or interact with the crazies, I mean public? I want to walk/hike 20+ miles a day and listen to audiobooks in the middle of nowhere, hope I'm not delusional.
I purchased a farm with a forest swamp and Marsh the United States Department of Defense the United States Department of the Pentagon the United States Department of the Navy arranged for me to land my aircraft on an aircraft carrier so that I could repair the reactor in Yemen I was taken hostage in prisoner of war I was only in Yemen to repair the reactor with inspector repair after I took a test and passed the test for the United States Department of Defense subcontractor inspector that repairs reactor with inspector repair I am a licensed fishermen and Hunter and have had licensing to fish and hunt in the past but I had no intentions of anyone ever hunting or fishing on my property I also had no intentions of their ever being any commercial construction or any construction on my property other than the farmhouse home and Barnes and greenhouses to grow fruits and vegetables I did speak to a forestry officer in the past about my wildlife birds my eagles owls Hawks the beavers the Badgers and the five squirrels that I rescued squirrels live to be 100 years old and it is a felony to murder an eagle it is also a felony to murder an owl or squirrels the squirrels were rescued they were 28 years old and had five 3 year old babies and they murdered them and taxidermy them and doves and an eagle they taxidermy them and place them in their yards as yard ornaments I returned from being held hostage and prisoner of war to find that my fences were down my Gates were down my green silos had been removed my farm had a makeshift school being built on it and a Walmart neighborhood market and supposedly ramshackle houses built on my property that I purchased I didn't ever stop making my payments I paid for the insurance and I paid for a wildlife protection insurance and when I was going to yemen and I paid the United States forestry Department the Tennessee highway patrol the Kentucky highway patrol the Clarksville Montgomery County Sheriff's department and the Trigg County Sheriff's Department and I don't understand why it is that my property hasn't been protected and why all of this ramshackle is on my property I want all of this ramshackle structures removed and all of the so-called asphalt and concrete streets and driveways removed from my property and I want all of these criminals removed from my property interested for wildlife murder and taxidermy D Anna Hensley Hawkins
Do you still need to go to college for these jobs
So, no you don’t, but if you take college classes they can help you by counting as some of your experience required as there are minimum qualifications for GS3 and GS4 postings. Having any sort of experience for 6 months of work or school will qualify you for a 3 and adding some school or more specific work experience for a 4. This can be very broad and I haven’t made a resume video yet however usually just showing you can drive off roads, work outdoors comfortably, and are comfortable doing physical work is sufficient. The description box has links to some job descriptions so you can look at how they word it and cater your experience to it. If you are completely unfamiliar with federal applications I’d suggest learning about federal resumes because they’re different than a normal one. But yeah, especially park guides, rangers at the GS3/4 level, and firefighters generally do not have a college degree before joining the work force or work those jobs while going to college in some cases. Range techs that I’ve worked with haven’t had degrees but have done military, conservation corps, or some sort of invasive weeds removal work before joining. Sorry if this is a bit over the place and hope something helps!
Edit is they do not have a degree generally haha
@@ecologystorymode Thank you. I really appreciate that you took your time to respond.
Degree is important to get higher salary.
The U.S. government would have no excess job vacancies if they just legalized weed.
How does a person survive on only $33,000 a year?
Not very well and hopefully not for long as a GS4 haha. A lot of the areas that these jobs are at the cost of living isn’t very high (and in cities it’s adjusted to up to 50k) but the survivability of the wage really just depends on where in the country you are. The hope would be youre not down with debt and you get a job that’s on a promotional scale. For land management agencies you can generally work up to a GS 9 without a degree (unfortunately and it looks like that’s hopefully changing following how wildfire is looking). Some better option is anything on the WG scale that generally involves maintenance and trades, if you’re with an environmental agency it pays more and you still are going to get to do conservation work. It’s been a while since making this video and there’s definitely better options depending on what you’re looking to get from the whole thing. GS3 FFs make good money even if they don’t fill their off season too. This is all just first year on job no degree going in stuff from the vid. Definitely have more room to explain how to make a living and not just get a bad paying job haha.
@@ecologystorymode Thanks for the reply. More a lifestyle than a job. : ) I looked at becoming a ranger until I read the pay. Sad
If you’re looking for higher paying positions then law enforcement rangers make decent money but generally require anywhere from 60 college credits to a degree based on what state you’re in so not on here. All the states I’ve worked in it leads to a six figure career and is a super fun and competitive job. If you just want to build stuff outside there’s engineering jobs you can go into and do the actual construction side of outdoors stuff like bridges/ steps/ erosion work that gets paid well also(don’t know the education for this, I think mostly trade). Not that it’s for everyone and not trying to push anything but those are a couple sides of recreation that are profitable and more common even in less rural areas. Hope it’s helpful.
It's pretty doable living on slightly over a grand a month, particularly for a single person in a more rural area with around $500-$600 rent. Obviously with the intention to make more in a few years.
@TheFunKing33 if you're young and single, it's fine..
As time goes by, the pay goes up, it's also a great life.
Are there any that don't drug test?
Stop doing drugs
@@masterofnone1481 some people need them to function. Not everyones brain is wired in the same way.
@@niksatt4843 obviously I’m not talking about scripts...
@@masterofnone1481 hey asshole scripts are worse than street drugs sometimes do yourself a favor and just shut the fuck up about subjects you know absolutely nothing about.
@@niksatt4843 Get off the drugs and stop making excuses. Clean your damn room before trying to fix the world, or you will forever be a loser like you are right now.
Need to look at the camera
I’m actually playing a game the whole time I record
That is trash pay
Broooo even more true now years after I made this
Actually for the US Forest Service you need a degree. I had a coworker who trained me doing FIA who didn’t. He was let go be of it. Of course it was as a GS-6. Yes, with fire you don’t. As a park ranger for the NPS my previous experience as a county park ranger. Who wants to take a position as a GS-3?
What is a red card?
Simple answer: your wildfire card. Fuller a bit answer: It’s an incident qualification and tracking card that if you work with wildfire or other incidents you keep on you to have a record of jobs your qualified for and can get called up based on.
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