What is the difference between CB Radios and Ham Radio?
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- 2 Minute Tuesday: I was able to bring Tyler from My Off Road Radio back on to discuss the differences between CB and Ham Radios. This was extremely difficult to keep in less than two minutes, and I feel we could have made an entire episode on this specific topic.
CB Radios are very limited with power capping out at 4 watts. They cost the more mainly because you have to buy more equipment to use them, and they take some work to set up the antenna correctly. Don't forget, even if your antenna is set up correctly and your friends are not then there will be a horrible service.
Ham Radios have almost unlimited power, and these handhelds that we show have 4-8 watts. Which is the max to two times as much as a CB Radio. They are also very easy to set up and use, just attached the antenna and make sure they are on the same frequency then talk away. The price has also come way down in for these radios recently. You can buy these Handheld Ham Radios for $25-$30 for the basic entry-level ones and $50-$60 for the more advanced.
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Is the classes on the website mobile friendly? As in can I do it all on my phone
Yes they are mobile, tablet or computer friendly. They are the study classes to help prep you for the FCC test. You can find more info at myoffroadradio.com
The other benefit to ham radio vs CB is that some ham radio bands use repeaters that will give you several miles of range where CB does not have anything like that.
@@degardner84 Sorry Dave ,that statement is not quite true,CB Parrot,Split frequency repeaters and ROIP are going on in UK and Eu lands,bit of a misnomer there.Plus Australia can use UHF 477mhz CB radio and use repeaters on there CB UHF band.
@@rpcomms1 ok, I didn't know that about the UK. Thanks fo the info. 😊
@@degardner84 You can very well use a repeaters with CB radios in the USA, as the same you can with ham radios. There are people who have very large CB base stations that offer repeaters for those using only CB radio. There are also devices that anyone can purchase to start their own repeater technology on there own with their cb radios. Repeaters are most common with Ham radios, and are available for CB radios as well, there is no laws from the FCC saying you can't use this technology with CB frequencies .Look at the smart phone apps that offer CB Chating , which you are using a CB repeater to get your voice out on the CB frequency from your cell phone, that is just 1 example.
CB (citizens band) radio is an unlicensed service operating at about 27MHz (11 meter wave length). The band is divided into 40 distinct channels. The mode of transmission for CB radio is either amplitude modulation (AM) with a maximum transmit power of four watts, or single side band (SSB) with a maximum output power of 12 watts. CB radio is for voice communication only. CB operators are not required to identify themselves during transmissions and commonly use nicknames referred to as “handles”.
Amateur radio (ham radio) is a licensed service and requires passing an FCC exam and being issued a license and call sign. There are different levels of license with each requiring an additional test and allowing more operating privileges. There are bands of frequencies all over the radio spectrum allocated for amateur use. The bands of frequencies range from below the AM broadcast band all the way up to microwaves. The modes of transmission in ham radio can be AM, FM, SSB, CW (Morse code), several types of digital transmissions (used for both voice and data) and even a slow scan TV mode. There are also amateur satellites orbiting the Earth that relay signals. The allowable transmit power in amateur radio can be as much as 1,500 watts. When transmitting ham radio operators must identify themselves with their FCC issued call sign.
Amateur radio operators commonly provide communications in the event of an emergency.
Both CB and amateur radio are specifically for personal communication; commercial or business use is prohibited.
This 30 second read was more informative than the 5 minute video, thank you.
@@25aces yes, Pay for the liscence and training channel. If you want some talk while travelling go CB..if you are flying, hiking, marine, 4x4 club, then maybe a ham or FM, UHF just to have the same chat channels as the club..
Many clubs will have extra liscenced channels to broadcast.
So even thought you see Ch. 44, 44, 45, 46, 47,49, 50, 52, 53. E.g.. these will be the private liscenced channels, there's 1000.s of Frequencies so a private channel can be, 49.650. 49.660, 49.670 etc. All 'sub channels to the main frequency. Not rocket science, your mobile phone is exactly the same, only your individual frequency can be 'dialed' ( and monitored, listened to ) which these ph. / private channels, selling point is privacy ! Lol
They usually don't cost the members anything, but your radio receiver needs the program to be updated and on the device to join the conversation. ( usually a good deal can be found if you buy from the club with there channels, )
The radio will still have all the other channels working as well.
The only reason you have these extra channels is so you don't have to listen to the trucks or council workers on the same channel.
Personal choice is pretty much the answer, which do.you prefer and is the group in private channels ? Then your Q, is. how much will i use it, how far will it broadcast/ recieve, how long does the battery last ?
There are some issues in some countries, where use of VHF is illegal, like Afghanistan. But in commonwealth countries no problem. Some new multi band radios coming out of China are banned from sale, bc ? Why can't we have 1 radio with many frequencies? Police, army, emergency, etc all use radios of some type, you can hear them talking but tgey are trained not to talk in a way to give out information. They use ph. Now for conversations private radio channel.. btw TV is radio waves as well. Tesla the champ worked it all out in 1890. Including remote control. Radio waves again.
So there all a variation of the same electrical frequency. Hope I didn't loose you. Cheers.
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Well done. Even used semicolons like Henry Davis Thoreau.
@@PalmBeachJunk I compose posts in Microsoft Word for the spell checking and punctuation, then copy & paste; I’ll pass the compliment along to them!
@@charliejeans2413 very informative
My neighborhood has a descent amount of CB. Even with a vehicle type antenna inside my condo, I can still pickup quite a bit of talk and can communicate with some of them. I got back into CB to mostly use on the Interstate. Works good for that. There are also times when you are only trying to communicate with those in your general vicinity, and it is good for that too.
Antenna height above ground is going to help. You get more benefit if you invest in the antenna and coax. If you want local AM then you want a 1/4 wave ground plane antenna, or 1/2 wave dipole antenna or a jpole. At 26 mhz the jpole won't be as small as the ground plane. For ssb you want the 1/2 wave dipole or a directional beam. That is where decent antenna "gain" comes into play. What will matter is any hoa restrictions. I would go for the ground plane antenna
I'll tell you the difference. I got a real kick out of CB and then I got my ham licence. It was like talking to the Fonz at a party and then meeting Sheldon cooper at a wake. I could go on but there it is in a nutshell.
Excellent comparison
Damn.
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Bazinga !
Ham radio requires you to sit several exams to gain a licence that shows you have the technical knowledge ,an understanding of radio regulations and the principals of radio theory to operate over a wide spectrum of frequencies without causing interference to other radio users or electronics around you.
CB does not, it is free to all citizens with just a few basic regulations.
Yes, more or less true, to get the lowest level Ham Radio licence you only need to take one test.
SnailTrail4x4 and there are 8 y/o girls passing it’s that simple
Eh sorta true. You take one test and that's how you get your lisence. You actually don't have to understand anything if you're good enough at memorizing answers since all the current questions are posted. Cb is free to all citizens with few regulations which can cause certain issues as well.
@@SnailTrail4x4 What does more or less true mean?
One is regulated and a licince is required, the other anyone can get a radio and talk shit.... Interesting, almost like it means something!
Two people who know nothing about radio, talking about radio. Nothing to see here.
BTW some of the answers I see on the hamradio FB pages is pretty sad !
@Steven someone who knows, can tell if someone else does not know.
David is spot on here. These guys are clueless. They could not radio their way out of a wet paper bag.
I would be more supportive if they would show that theyre genuinely interested into radio hobby, but all they care for is how to equipp their 4x4 for some pointless CO2 wasting.
yep they know nothing I been talking on CB and ham for years they miss the obvious ...
well I seem to agree with you , but cb radio and murs radio is great
Noticing that the radio community is full of dicks!
Ham better in some situations cb is better in others
Thank you gentlemen ~ from a viewer in Cambodia
Is initiating contact on a ham radio similar to the military? When we were trying to establish comms, we had to say "any station on this net, this _____,over" is it that same or is there a different way?
i have one icom with 4 digits in the front
p0 p1 p2 p3
i donr know how to program it or change frequency or tune it
any help please ?
Is the next video about the difference between a bike and a aircraft carrier?
You joke cause you know, but I thought they were the same thing. That's how I ended up here
over simplified description cb uses am ham uses fm well not true you can run am or sideband or dmr cw or whatever floats you boat. and cb uses sideband to!
FM cb used in quite a few places legally around world,not just USA on AM\SSB
Yeah lots of cb use SSB
FM CB is illegal in North America. SSB was used on CB but they found that in the US the people weren't smart enough to know how to use it so it died out. Ham can use any mode of communications so long as you stay within the band width for that band.
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CAN I USE A FRANCIS PRE-TUNED CB ANTENNA ON MY WILSON 1000 BASE FOR CB?
I don't have any problems with my CB
I was told when I started in Ham Radio "Study to pass the test. You can learn how to use it later." I did. I have been a Ham since 2014 and am still learning. Great video! With Tyler you should be able to have an "Elmer" who is someone who can explain how to use it in the field. If you want to know the range a "beginner" technician licensed operator can talk, well, there are satellites you can bounce your signal off of.
Thanks Bob, Since this video was released I have received my Ham's license and gotten a vanity call sign :) KJ1MMY
I have been a lover of radio since I was a kid. Walkie talkies, cb radio, ham radio all of it. Not sure why, just have always loved radios.
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Can I use my ham radio to listen to CB frequencies I understand it’s not legal to talk from my ham on a CB which is really crappy anyway can I listen?
I fly a drone. As part of my authorization through the FAA to fly my drone in controlled airspace, I am required to remain in contact with the local airports ATC. How would/can I listen to airport communications to remain in contact while flying my drone?
It takes no effort to tune a CB radio just an SWR meter and I talk all over the world on my CB without a repeater
Only at or near the peak of the sunspot cycle can you talk all over the world and rarely with 4 watts. Don't get me wrong cb has its place but many things available to hams are not allow on cb i.e. many digital modes, satellites, etc. With ham radio and an investment of a few hundred dollars one can be using radio freqs from below am broadcast band up to light. Modes include am fm a dozen or more digital modes,modes, eve slow and fast scan TV. We even have a ham repeater that allows you to talk half way around the world with an ht user Theriot conditions. With cb you only legal allowed to use very narrow group of freqs in the 27 mHz region. As the old saying states you spend your money and you takes your pick. By the way hams guard their privileges and will turn you in if you do not have a license and it is v easy to find out. Hope to see you on the bands.
@@jimgreen6704 when someone threatens to turn you in for using a radio frequency doesn't kind of seem right that's why I like CB radio unregulated and raw only the best can get through and make contacts it ain't as simple as it's going down to the store and buying equipment to do it it's snowing how to operate it believe me I know
Matter of fact CB used to be part of the ham band it was called 11 meter
how many hours is your ham radio course ?
I am thinking of getting some cheap Baefong handhelds for the purpose of talking with family while on CRUISE SHIPS.... being that we mostly will be in INTERNATIONAL WATERS .... I think I will be cool with no license..... YOUR THOUGHTS.... and while in mexico or jamaica .. or Cabo San Lucas .... do the USA license have reciprocity there??? YOUR THOUGHTS
2:27 When I was a kid I hooked up an old CB radio to a random 12 volt transformer, connect some speaker wire to an old telescopic radio antenna and i could hear and talk to people.
I have one exactly like that and a 12v transformer never tried it idk if there is any communication in my area
So, this is a cyclical sort of thing that goes up and down. You could talk to Australia one year and three years later barely be able to talk into the next county. This relies on tropospheric propagation which follows the cycles of the sun.
A ham since 1975, it seems to me like overkill, to get a ham license just for 4 wheeling. Have you ever considered other radio services, such as GMRS, MURS, FRS?
The use of repeater where we are is great. I can call in and let my group know that I just hit the trail, and I'll be at camp in 3 hrs. Something I can't do with a smaller direct one to one radio
@@SnailTrail4x4 Not that you'd want to do this... But, you can own, & operate your own GMRS repeater(s). A full duplex system would be pricy. But, a simplex system is far less costly, & complex.
The international communication community wants the frequency-bands and strong transmitters reserved for serious users, so they can be used over serious distances when the need arises. There's no point in wasting shortwave-bands on local chitchat
The problem with GMRS ( and MURS by extension) is that there is almost nothing available in practical equipment available. What is there is miserably over priced, under powered, and under featured. Midland being the big name there. So as a last resort people are buying Chinese Type 90 transceivers to use for part 95 (GMRS) because they have the higher power that a GMRS license allows and a good combination of affordability and performance. Getting a GMRS license and using the part 90 radios seems to be a very attractive solution there.
In GMRS, Midland is NOT your friend.
need license for all those idiot
My Radio stuck up in the middle kindly suggest what modifications are required to use it as both as CB and Ham Radio
You can't. CB runs on AM, ham repeaters run on FM. It's two different modes of modulation.
I am considering buying a Baofeng UV-5R, is it possible to program it to CB frequencies?
No, but you CAN program them to GMRS frequencies. Newer ones you might have to "unlock" to do it.
Screw the license. Outlaw all the way.
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do more research, this guy knows ham, not CB. its super simple to tune a CB antennas nice guy,, does not know CB at all.
Pay for the liscence and training channel. If you want some talk while travelling go CB..if you are flying, hiking, in 4x4 then maybe a ham or FM just to have the same chat channels as the club..
Many clubs will have extra liscenced channels to broadcast.
They usually don't cost the members anything, but your radio receiver needs the program to be updated and on the device to join the conversation.
The only reason you have these extra channels is so you don't have to listen to the trucks or council workers on the same channel.
Personal choice is pretty much the answer, which do.you prefer and is the group in private channels.
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@Cassie Harry hes talking out his rear whats he mean cb limited power cb heck you can have as much or as little as you want cb can get you all round the world
Ok you may not blegaĺ if you gìve them too much power
But some hams are a bit snobby
What rig and power do u use in ozz
Take care
Dummies
Can I just talk to buddies on these radios say if i'm out camping somewhere? or do I need a license ? I bought a Baofeng bf-f8hp five years ago when I first got my boat for emergency uses if ever needed but now I would like expand my use. Any help with info in the right direction would be appreciated
To talk on the Ham frequencies you need a license. If it's an emergency you can talk on any radio frequency
Wonder what your ham license is ?
Nice simple analogies thank you
What about side band frequencies?
What class license does he have?
Can a CB Radio make me dizzy every time I get around it?
"tune" a cb antennae or may not get heard at all? LOL, I was based in westfield NJ and stepped on mobiles as far south as Maryland.
in my field of work, traffic control, crisp and long distance communication is vital specially in canons. what radio you suggest and ham radio looks appealing. should take ur classes?
Depending on the terrain and distance, you may require a repeater based communication. If that is the case Amateur Radio would open up plenty of capability and teach you what you need to know.
Personally I enjoy both. Both have their own niche. If I don't want to go through the ordeal of wiring up my ham radio and running lines through the firewall of my vehicle, I can without worry plug my 4 watt uniden into the lighter socket- and get traffic info more readily than the ham bands- - I find CB as a better starting point than a dual band HT, as you generally have to apply some knowledge when working out your SWR. Also - a 505 uniden can be had for $30 - and a tuneable antenna for $20 and a lighter plug for 5. Not too shabby
Those are great suggestion, thanks for taking the time to comment.
Interesting video. I think tho that if your interest is using radio as ancillary communications, and not for experimentation, GMRS/FRS are better ways to go.
Cb radio can connect to ham radio?
If I wanted to listen to CB 27.1850 on a simple BAOFENG how would I enter the freq given its not a simple 6 digit like 467.550?
You can’t
Yes sir, very well explained. 73, EA8DIO
Basically. Anybody (technically US citizens in the US) can buy and use a CB. No test or license required. Tuning a CB antenna is simple. Amateur radio required and passing a test (easy). Ham HTs typically don't run much more power than a CB. Simplex range probably isn't that different. The details are much more complicated. CB I'm guessing you're talking about is legally limited to 40 channels in the 11 meter band am or ssb. Closest similar ham band is 10 meters. Hams can operate in a wide variety of bands and modes usually with much more power.
Let me add, it is quite possible to get 15 or more miles from the hts on the video using the proper antenna systems including good coax. That's both stations. 5 watts into an average ht antenna only radiates about 1 watt on average. When I started out the guys told be to expect 1 mile per watt over average terrain from an ht over simplex. Much shorter range among buildings and dense trees. It was recommended to carry a roll up jpole and ht adapters for emergencies. And if possible a mobile radio with more power out and quality moble antenna.
what call sing are you ?
You mentioned tuning a CB antenna. Is that tune In once or is that tuned in on a daily/ moment basis that you need to talk to your buddy
As long as the equipment stays mounted in the same configuration it will largely remain tuned. Of course unbolting and moving the antenna could throw it off slightly.
The difference is, CB is free to use and HAM needs a licence.
In the EU CB radio on FM/AM/SSB 4 watt max
Chris Redfield: SSB is now 12 watts legal power in the UK and most of Europe.
Which is tastier SALAMI OR HAM ?
can u talk to ppl on a cb with a ham?
I have a ham radio license from 20 years ago or so ? Is it still good ?? Or do i have to renew it or what ?? I still remember my call letters ???
good for 10 yrs.
@@davidpayne5995 Ok Thanks for the heads up !!!
So... would you say Ham radio is the way to go for city?
How much does it cost to get the license?
It's changing here soon to $35
how to connect cb redio with ham redio
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We have had cb fm bands for some years in the uk, id say having a rig in the van gets out great both around town and then some.
I’ve always thought about getting into ham radio. A couple questions. I have a walkie-talkie, or 2 way radio, that has FRS/GMRS. First of all, I heard that you need a GMRS license, to use GMRRS. How would they catch you, if you don’t have one for GMRS? Just curious. Second, which one would you recommend, ham radio, or GMRS license? And, how much does it cost to get a GMRS license, versus a ham radio license? And let me make myself clear. I’m staying on the FRS, just to be safe, until I get a GMRS license, when I decide.
Let me forward this question to Tyler, and I'll get back to you.
SnailTrail4x4 Ok. Thanks
Hey hey! Great questions! You do need a GMRS license to operate using GMRS restrictions. The way they catch you is quite simple really through RF Triangulation. There is a whole sport within the Ham Radio hobby called "Fox Hunting" or "transmitter hunting" that does just this. They hunt down radio signals over anywhere from a 20 mile, to 500 mile radius lol. Think of it like a version of Geocaching, but with radios. Super fun, and surprisingly easy to do with the right equipment. Between ham and GMRS, I will choose Ham all day, every day. Ham has more repeaters per geographical areas in the United States. You can run more power. And you have far more options in frequencies to use. GMRS is a great option for off roaders though if you don't want to get into the complications and black hole that is the ham radio hobby. If you are just looking for rig to rig communications and nothing more, then go with GMRS. If you are looking for something to have reliable, emergency communications while outside of cell reception, go with Ham hands down. A GMRS license is $60, no test, covers your immediate family, and renew and repay every 10 years. Ham license is $15, 35 question exam, covers only you, renews for free every 10 years, no test or payment on the renewal every 10 years. Plus, with Ham Radio, you get to play with APRS... which is one of the coolest and most useful radio toys for off roaders. Check out Jimmy's other video on APRS that we did. It is a 2MT, so it doesn't go in depth into everything APRS is capable of, but you can get an idea of the awesomeness :)
Great video, two questions. 1) does your off road focused study course cover everything I would need to know for the exam? Off road comms is exactly how I plan to use it. 2) can you post the name or links to the HAMs you’ve got on the table there?
Thanks!
1) Yes, I took Tyler's course and passed first try. I did do a lot of studying and took the practice test like 10 times.
I'll add some of the Radios to the video description.
From experience the repeaters on ham radio sound the exact same as cb radio it's unfortunate that this is the way it's going :(
If u can't easily tune a cb radio Antenna easily, brush up a little on antenna basics.
It's not that it isn't easy, it's more about how it's another step.
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You also need an Antenna for ham bands, and if using a wire for multiple bands need to know about rd.
Not to mention angles of radiation.
@@CBRadiouk1 -- but do you need to adjust the antenna on the ham bands?
@@SnailTrail4x4
I can't believe u even asked that.
If u are using a Miliband antenna like a g5rv, u would use an atu.
Feedline loses are very low because of the balanced feeder.
Just like on the cb band, if your antenna was a mono band variety.
You would need to know how to tune it.
how many kilometers do CB and Ham radio communication reach?
Anywhere from 1 to 5000. It depends on what you're talking about. Reliably? To someone you know vs some random person in some unknown place where the signal might touch back down?
On CB - mind you my rig runs over the 4 watt limit, but not by a lot (15w deadkey on AM, 60wPEP sideband) - with a pretty decent antenna - a Stryker A-10MM - I've talked crystal clear 25 miles on AM, and 40+ miles on SSB. If you're talking kilometers, your probably not in the USA, so our rules don't apply. If I stuck with a 4 watt legal limit radio, I could probably still get out close to that far, just maybe not as strong / clear of a signal.
It's not hard to tune a CB antenna, same process as tuning a HAM antenna, takes about 5 minutes.
Do you need a license for ham radio if you just listen and don’t transmit?
You only need a license to Trasmit
I don’t know why everybody says 10-14 days to get your call sign. I got mine in 2 days. I had to go to my city and search for recent grants tho
Yeah I think I got mine in less than a week as well
Is there such a thing as a radio that has HAM as well as CB frequencies?
No, not from a bender, because they transmit on different frequencies and different power outputs.
Ron Levy: Most "Export" radios have the CB band plus the 10 metre band (see link below for example).....some also have the 12 metre band. They may not be legal to use, depending on where you live.
www.kcb.co.uk/contents/en-uk/p1703_Superstar_9900.html
Spartan....HAM....4x4....what a wonderful video! :)
I’m looking for a General class for ham radio
Either it is very different in Australia or these guys have no idea about CB UHF. I do have both UHF CB and Dual Band Ham radios programmed for CB frequencies. (1 to 80 legit channels).
From what I have been told there are far less Repeaters down under then there are here on the west coast. Also our CBs only have 40 channels
You will be tuning any antenna for mobile or base use. Also, now that the fcc has approved fm for use with the 11m band, this too will change. But ham radio is more versatile, has more power and you won't have someone telling you that you can tune the antenna by changing the length of the feed line. As stupid as that sounds, there are guys teaching this, and they believe that it works. You'll learn something while preparing to enter the entertaining world of ham radio.
27 megahertz has greater foliage penetration then the 144 to 147 megahertz of 2 m and UHF CB radio is simpler to operate non license required and a very good tool for off road not to mention more prevalent than amateur radio equipment when four wheeling with large groups
Runjam Webster I’m not sure if you’re in the U.S. or not: there is a UHF “CB” here which does require a license: it’s called GMRS (it used to be Class A CB vs. what we think of as CB on 27MHz, which was Class D CB), it allows up to 50 watts & to use repeaters! It’s on 462/467 MHz & shares frequencies with FRS. It’s a cool little band!
I think I just watched an advertisement ??
You really do need to update/correct or delete this video. VHF/UHF handhelds are NOT unlimited for power. The use of repeaters is a lot of fun but, without a repeater VHF/UHF at 5 watts will cover about half the area that a properly setup cb will
Gregory M: That's right....and in a city or other built-up area UHF range can be as little as a few hundred yards.
These guys are clueless. The rubber duck antennas are basically a dummy load. No gain if at all.
nah. dont delete it. i learned more from the comments than i did from the last few vids i watched
Are they compatible????
Not legally
All questions and answers found on the licensing tests for all classes can be found free online per the FCC. Dont waste your money, there are tons of free apps out there.
Soooo....the short version is that you need a license to use a ham radio aka fm frequency?
Simply put yeah, but then there are benefits
Trehn Hazelwood: You can use all modes (AM, FM, SSB) legally in the UK and some other countries on CB.....you still need a licence to use the "Ham" frequencies though.
Could you own a ham radio and use it to just listen on? Like a hand held and a mobile one?
Technically it's possible. Legally it's not. But there are receivers that covers almost the entire HF, UHF/VHF band, just for 'swl' (short wave listener). One can even register as a SWL and send receiving reports to HAM operators around the world. Most of them do appreciate that!
73, PD0PSX the Netherlands.
BTW, one can look up almost all registered HAM operators in the world...
In the US at least there's no problem owning one and just listening. As long as you are not transmitting, you aren't doing anything illegal.
So I can own one in my vehicle And use it as a scanner to listen to as long as I don’t transmit over it? Also I do live in the US
@Jimmer Sutherland: Here in Europe you must have a license/permit if you want to own/use a transceiver. There are transceivers in which the transmit part is removed. You can own and operate one of those.
I am not sure of the laws in the US, but they must have some regulations about it. (And of course there are persons who illegally have a transceiver. In that respect Europe isn't much different than the rest of the world...)
Jimmer Sutherland correct, in the U.S., the only thing we aren’t allowed to listen to are cell phones (& I suppose encrypted government comms).
Canada seems to have a different system for the license. There is *basic* and *basic* with honours and *advanced*
The basic exam was 100 questions.
IN EUROPE WE USE MOSTLY FM+SSB not AM.
Im looking for a long range cb radio that dose not require a license. It would be nice if the cb can communicate with a walkie talkie. Like some midland brands.
Alex Ahedo: Hi Alex, I don't know which country you live in but here in the UK (for example) all CB radio is licence-free although it may be different in other countries. The range depends mainly on your antenna and your height.....operating from a hill-top with a good antenna will give you a much longer range than operating from a low location with the same antenna. Atmospheric / Solar conditions also affect range but these can vary a lot. Any radio, either "Ham" or CB.....whether its a base station, mobile or "walkie talkie" can communicate with any other radio if they are both using the same frequency and mode (FM / AM / SSB / CW).
It's all about the frequencies they operate on. I actually have two walkie-talkies that will operate on 27mhz (CB) bands. One is an old 6 channel,the other is a 40 ch. They just eat batteries,though!!! (6-8 at a time!!!)
Something that wasnt mentioned is that a ham license and gmrs licenses aree good for 10 years.
But with ham radio you have access to an extremely large amount of bandwidth and massive power limits.
But if you are in the offroader class or mountain biking groups you are better served using gmrs.
Do you need a license for cb
Nope, citizen band radio
Can a HAM radio communicate with the CB RADIO?
Not legally
There is very little comparison 400 kHz of bandwidth compared with 300-400 kHz per band, from LW HF to UHF and above. FM, data, Digital , video and Satellite modes are not even legal on 11 meters. To say nothing of the fact 11 meters was a ham band until it was allocated as a non-Amateur band.
There are many CB radios that use SSB, which is arguably a better mode than FM, you can use them without the hassle of becoming a "HAM", the deal about CB's having antenna length problems between users is a flat out lie, if you have an antenna tuned for CB any other user can hear and talk to you, this is just a commercial for this guys HAM licensing service. I can say CB is the best for the masses event though I am a HAM I also use CB.
I believe they are referring to other users who fail to invest in a decent mount for a reasonably high gain antenna keeping you restricted from communicating with them. This is not an issue if everyone puts in a good effort to maintain good equipment.
Was this video-taped on a boat? Christ. The picture keeps see-sawing.
cb is limited to 4 watts A.M and 12 watts upper or lower side band. ham is limited to 1500 watts do people follow these rules of course not and just as soon as this sun spot period ends you will hear more cb than before. but nowhere near a couple million cb users like there used to be but it is starting to come back.
I never left cb!✌️🍻🏜️
Don’t they have FM CB on UHF in the US?
We have FRS which is likely what you are describing. Its quite convenient!
@@wesleybuff2536 We just call it CB here in Aus, and AM CB on 27 MHz is quiet. I doubt you can even buy an AM CB in any store here.
@@BrekMartin : I think AM is "dead" in most countries except the USA.....I'm in the UK and in the last three years I've only ever heard one conversation in AM mode.
CB in Europe have FM and AM plus SSB but in the US you may not use FM and i don't understand that because it's not as much risk of interference from FM as AM. I had a call from my nabor and he was complaining that I could be heard on his TV so I testet FM and it was gone. A CB in a car with a good antenna has about 60 miles range. If you are going to use handheld a VHF>UHF is better because they don't have long antennas.
It's all good fun !!!
Tuned antennas is needed cause you will damage the output in a very short time, if to much power output to the antenna (W)...therefor antennas need tuned to best swr (1:1,1) and 50ohm Impedance
This is generally for CB or HAM radio
When we getting our licenses Jimmy?
I'm going to a class at the end of this month. Wanna join?
I do! Hit me up with the dates when you know and I'll see if I can swing it.... Now I have to study, huh?
Thanks
Could also legally go GMRS, still need a license, but no test. There's a ton TON more differences. As far as antenna tuning.. any antenna for any radio needs tuned for that frequency, but you do at least hint at a major part of the optimum use of a radio.. antenna, antenna, antenna.
Yeah I gotta say I disagree. Am or SSB on 27MHz has a lot more range in it than 2m or 70cm FM radio. Tuning the antenna is as difficult as attaching an SWR meter. And you don’t have to worry too much about the gain or radiation pattern in situations where a 6 or 9db antenna might not make it over a hill but a 3db might. Here in AU a lot of 4WD users have switched to our UHF CB band. We have 80 channels, 5w output and are allowed removable antennas and in car rigs all with no licence.
Thank you!
I disagree 5 watts on CB 2 Meters is legal at much higher wattage in a hand held device . Been a ham operator for some 40 years CB prior to that .
@@jerrypeal653 umm your forgetting that in SHF your beloved repeaters will be down in short order. That 2m rig will be useless.
Buick 401 talking point to point a uhf/vhf mobile radio is just as good as a cb radio. You’re only going to be able to talk to the horizon with either one. If point to point is all you’re interested in then why bother getting a ham license
@@tramey1961 That's not entirely true. 27mhz follows the curvature of the earth somewhat. Much better than higher frequencies. You get into lower bands, with nvis antennas you can reliably make contact in a 3-400 mile radius.
I AM NOT CAPABLE OF PASSING THE HAM RADIO OPERATOR'S LICENSE TEST.
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Can truck drivers us these to talk to other drivers
Sure, as long as you're on the same frequencies
CB is more useful in a car than Amateur, in my experience. For a base station, I really want VHF/UHF to get the Skywarn storm spotters, and shortwave broadcasts on the HF transceiver.
IF someone on a repeater will respond, and that's IF one has programmed their radio to hit said repeater, and IF one is in range long enough. I've never been in a situation where Amateur radio did anything in my car other than provide weather updates on demand. This isn't a CB > Amateur situation, just relaying my personal experiences. @@PlasmaStorm73
Cant you use SSB on 11m rigs? I'd say that will travel further than 2m FM simplex especially during good skip conditions.
As cool as amateur radio is, in Smokey & the Bandit Burt Reynolds called "breaker breaker" not "CQ CQ." :-)
It's not the skip conditions - that's a different animal. Offroaders aren't trying to communicate with europe, they're talking to people in their area. Skip - will skip right over the people you're trying to talk with. SSB is much better at picking out weak signals than FM. FM goes from crystal clear to "lost in the noise floor" in pretty short order. Lower frequencies tend to refract in the atmosphere more, so you'll get a signal - but weak - many many fars further than the horizon. So you combine that with SSB so you can actually turn that weak signal into usable audio, and you're in business. I can talk about 40+ miles fairly reliably on my trucks SSB rig, the FM vhf/uhf without a repeater, I can't even really get 10 miles out without a repeater.
I guess the word "expert" doesn't mean what it used to. CB is limited to 40 "channels" around 27MHz frequency range. Five watts...or, if you prefer...about 10 watts PEP (peak envelope power) on single sideband AM. Ham radio is limited to 1500 watts....but you're not going to get even close to that with a handheld. BUT, using a handheld ham radio I can use repeaters...which vastly extend the range of that little radio.....and if the repeater is linked to the internet I can sit in my living room in the US and talk to a ham in Tokyo. None of that is possible using CB unless you get really really lucky and the ionosphere cooperates...which, lately, it isn't.
All portable radios are limited to 4 to 5 watts per FCC. The reason your CB has less range from a portable is the frequency, and the antenna. For a CB to work efficiently the antenna has to be 102 inches long, they take all that and coiled it on top of that little CB portable radio which defeats its purpose. If everything is built equal a five watt CB radio will out do a VHF, or UHF with 5 watt output in long distance communication. By that I mean a 102 inch antenna set up correctly. However, CB frequencies are not good for use if you're in downtown, and surrounded by buildings, because CB frequency doesn't bounce like UHF radios so that is another reason you don't get the range with a CB. Before you decide what radios you are buying you have to consider where you will be using your equipment. CB is good for something, but not good for everything, VHF is good for something, but not good for everything, UHF is good for something, but not good for everything.
Peak it and Tune it for improved output/reception. Totally legal,that's just making the modulation/reception better? (Out of the box,some don't work as they should?) That's also why "A Box" (Linear Amplifier.....'Not' legal,but seldom enforced now?) is so popular with those living in urban areas?
Partially true. CBs are limited to 4 watts AM deadkey, 12 watts PEP on sideband. The AM radio when you're talking on a 4w carrier can "swing" to about 12 watts "peak" - Peak Envelope Power. Sideband has no carrier so it cant be measured by a deadkey. Thats the fcc reg for CB, nothing to do with other services. Handhelds are usually limited to 5 watts or so by physics. A handheld much over 5 watts, you're not getting more fars - you're just draining your battery faster. Ham radios have a 1500 watt limit per FCC, doesnt matter if its mobile or not.
@@PlasmaStorm73, boosting your transmission signal from a portable radio is like cheating.
Can you access CB channels on a Ham? I know there’s frequencies for it , however I’ve never had success programming them. New to ham.
My understanding is that ham radio is on the am frequency and CB is on the FM frequency so they are not accessible on either devices
Not legal to talk on on cb rated equipment.... but a lot of people ignore some of the rules
SnailTrail4x4 in the United States CB is am as is most ham hf bands. Most HF ham radios will tune CB frequencies but it’s not legal to transmit on those frequencies in the United States.
@@tramey1961Few hams operate on AM. Most are on SSB, CW, digital modes, satellites
Do you really need a license for a hand held just for off roading
The legal answer is yes
My cb on bad days I get out about 20 miles in the city w/ no amp, and with skip I've gotten out across the other side of the country.
But with FM if you are not near a repeater then you are SOL because those things are low power, I have ham too, but I just like CB a bit more.
So, FM is not a type of radio. It is a modulation scheme like AM. Both modulations can propagate below about 50 MHz or so IF CONDITIONS ARE EXCELLENT. They are poor far more often than they are good requiring large amounts of power, low loss feed line, and a good antenna(often directional). Repeater communications often does not take advantage of propagation as it is not necessary. It is more reliable by a large stretch as you have control over where you operate from often times, just make an educated choice. It sounds like communications in your area is not all that difficult, typically simplex operation in our area is almost worthless.
danialphaomega a hand held uhf/vhf radio can work pretty good on simplex with a good mag mount antenna even in low power. A 50 watt mobile ham radio will out preform cb point to point all day long