The other thing to note about any of the "early days of the game" inclusions was that news travelled slowly. So, I remember the first tournament I played where somebody was using Energy Removals and Electabuzz, and it completely wrecked the local meta. Most people were building decks with Zards and Raichus. It was like playing against somebody using cheat codes.
@@1ntr0spect98He is talking about using “their” is better. Because “his or her” is simply longer and more convoluted to print on every card instead of just “their”. Classic case of people jumping to conclusions when it comes to sensitive topics. You need to grow up.
Ghetsis (Plasma Freeze) probably belongs somewhere here. It was so broken that people thought the effect was wrongly translated. At the time, you could play Supporter cards going first, meaning that a single Ghetsis would completely lock the opponent out of items and make YOU draw 2-4 cards.
The only card not mentioned I can think of being worthy of this list would be Dialga Palkia Arceus Tag Team. For 2 energy, being able to draw an extra prize for each KO made every game KO one Tag Team, then snipe out a backrow with Lysandre, or even better, sniping 2 Crobat V or Dedenne GX with Boss' Orders.
Yeah ADP was hugely shaping the entire meta by rendering 1 prize decks unusable. It was probably the card I wanted to be rotated out the most from standard.
@@CrnaStrela ohh okay, thanks for the clarification. It’s cause I remember seeing a Majikarp Troll deck like 2 years ago that used both ADP and double dragon energy 😭
@@CrnaStrela The only thing that saved the Pokémon TCG from losing all of its credibility from ADP rampancy was ironically Covid. Since the lockdowns effectively cancelled the big 2020 Nationals and Worlds, ADP didn't have a massive audience and prize pool to play over, meaning the stakes that ADP played around weren't as high as other Meta-Warping TCG cards of the past like Mewtwo EX.
I remember Sableye suddenly becoming insane with BW rules, everyone was panicking. I remember some Battle Roads events went ahead to see how it would go, and Sableye as expected dominated one he was legal in (I cant remember fully but i think some TOs hosted their BRs without to BW ruleset or something) For anyone interested in seeing it in action, JWittz still has his playthrough video up. Ridiculous to think that was once Standard format...
Not sure broken time space deserves it’s spot. It was fine and saw quite a bit of play but rare candy could evolve first turn in that format. I would put Claydol from Great Encounters way above it. 2 Claydol in play would let you cycle your deck so quickly.
Sorry, you're telling me the Forest of Giant Plants / Decidueye EX deck could not only summon Decidueye on the first turn, but FOUR of them to get a First Turn KO through up to 80HP?? The idea of finding all four copies of Rowlet, Dartrix, AND Decidueye in one turn is absurd; I suppose it really shows the power of Shaymin EX (which would deserve to be above the Forest IMO if it wasn't for that stupid Shiftry combo)
There was literally only one deck that could hard counter it, and that was when Ho-oh-GX/Turtonator-GX came out with Kiawe in Burning Shadows. Though I went even crazier and put Mega Mewtwo in the deck to wreck 90% of the metagame. Too bad I wasn't doing Regionals back then (only locals), cause i think that archtype could have won a big event.
Pokémon TCG: Where creatures on par with deities often find themselves merely being good, and an otherwise unremarkable creature has the ability to bust the meta so bad they have to go extreme emergency patch mode.
Magic the Gathering, where a concubine telling tales to a sultan to not get killed is so fundamentally broken that the effect is never reprinted or where some pirate's pet monkey massively outperforms the biggest evils in the entire series
Yep. Wigglytuff was one of the strongest evolved pokemon early, but it had to evolve from Jigglypuff. And Jigglypuff had only 60HP and was weak to fighting. If your opponent had a lone Jigglypuff and your deck had hitmonchan, it wasn't that hard to use bill/oak/computer search/etc to get hitmonchan, a fighting energy, and two plus power out for the turn one win.
I don’t know if there’s a world where I put Surge above Seeker or Quick Search Pidgeot (original), in fact I don’t know if Surge really belongs on a list like this due to it’s limited viability once released despite how overwhelmingly powerful it was in expanded during it’s era That aside a perfect list
I gotta say, I enjoy your videos a lot, but this one stood out to me because of the narrator. I’m assuming this was just a hired voice over artist that doesn’t necessarily have any knowledge of the PTCG (although even if this is not true, my point still stands). While I enjoy your videos a lot, this one was significantly easier for me to follow without having to zone out or rewind at certain points, primarily because of the inflection used throughout to give sentences and thoughts an audible structure, as well as being a bit slower to give me time to process the amount of info being thrown at me. It makes for a slightly longer video, but I don’t mind one but when I can understand much more of the info much more easily. In a usual video, the sentences are being read quite quickly and with almost no inflection to help structure the information being read in a way that is more readily digestible, and so I wind up missing a lot of the details that you have meticulously written about because it is being thrown at me so quickly and without much helpful, effective inflection to give all those words some digestible structure. Sorry for an unsolicited RUclips comment criticism, I’m sure that gets old and this may just go totally unseen, but I just felt like it was worth saying that, while I love your content, having someone who might not even be informed about TCGs read the script with this kind of inflection has made the experience much more enjoyable and digestible for me and my dumb, smooth brain.
That's more of a Maxxie/Archie problem since they cheated any Fighting/Water Stage 2. Before them, Archeops saw absolutely no play due to how janky BW fossil mechanic was
It was never played throughout it's time, because it was impossibly hard to get out because of the fossil mechanic, and it wouldn't be worth the setup anyway as big basics were the dominant cards. Only the Maxie Hidden Ball trick supporter card in the expanded format made it broken.
The thing with Puzzle of time is that it wasn't all that broken in Standard format. It was rarely even a staple until Zoroark GX came out. This card only broke the game in Expanded format, especially regarding first-turn donk decks.
In every card game, honestly. Cards mean you have options. It's inherently always good. Unless you're a gremlin running a hellbent deck in MtG or Infernities in YGO
And just think, a lot of us old folk had to play through sets full of all of those OGs. Our early days *sucked ass* even compared to how boring Yugioh's earliest days were.
Luckily I played from 2005ish for about 2 years, the game was slightly more balanced at the point I was still playing. Though it does had an issue with quick search Pidgeot allowing you to freely search anything per turn.
Hey, no card game nailed it the first time around. MTG may be one of the only card games not to have a linear line of overall power creep because the first few sets were just so broken.
Man unusually I am sort of annoyed with the guests that DuelLogs gets, but this time it was just downright pleasant. Also the reason crushing hammer was so frustrating was mostly because of how inconsistent it was. As someone who played competitively a few years ago, it was borderline mandatory for a few decks, especially if you were trying to pump the breaks on a damn tag team ADP. You never knew if you could count on it, and it felt sacky if you hit it 3/3 times, or frustrating if you never got a hit.
I would have added Neo Genesis Slowking to this list. The mistranslated ability was one of the single most oppressive, unintuitive things I've ever seen on a card - and I think that, if that ability were printed today (even on a card with the same stats), it would see tons of play as a way to shut down your opponent any time they try and play a Trainer card.
I find it kind of funny that, comparing what the game started as to now, Pokémon were way worse and Items were way better. The shot at 3:23 illustrates this the best.
I dont know. But I feel pidgeot ex is bound to end up on this list soon. Quick search, although a once per turn ability, trivializes draw acceleration. Any card from your entire deck. And it leaves you the option to use a supporter after to do more general acceleration or gusting. And even though it's on a stage 2, a Rare candy trivializes that too. It's a lot less prone to decking out than shoveling your deck into your discard pile is too.
@johnasenfranks5860 i wasn't aware of that! Even more interesting to see them bring it back! I also didn't really put any credit onto abilities, items, or arenas that might shut abilities off, too. But that kind of applies to shaymin Ex as well, so who knows. I'm not sure if there were any cards with that utility back in shaymin's rotation, though.
The island challenge amulet as written says that the 1 fewer prize card effect only takes place if damage from an OPPONENT'S attack KOs the Mon it was attached to. So that Jirachi play would just let your opponent draw 2 prize cards?
yep, which allowed you to exploit that using Surge's Strategy/Reset Stamp/Jessie&James/Weezing/Mars/Chip-Chip to empty your opponent's Hand before they even took their next turn, which is why it got banned
I started playing when roaring skies came out, that shaymin ex was around 80€ as soon as it came out. At the fact it came out around nationals it was so broken 💔💔💔
The original slowking was also busted with its pokepower, but I can't remember if that was a translation error or not as it did eventually get an errata.
I watched another video specifically about that Slowking card. It was broken because of a mistranslation by Wizards of the Coast. Slowking's Mind Games ability was supposed to only work if it was in the active slot, but that was not put onto the English card, and WotC refused to fix it.
S-tier voice as soon as I heard her say "Lt. Surge's Strategy" Anyways, I recently played the OG tcg on Gameboy and I can attest to how broken the old school cards are. Haymaker decks aside, one could easily end their turn ready to violate on their next turn
Crushing hammer was annoying more because it wasn't good. When it hit it hurt but while it's effect could change a game winning or losing because a single well timed 50/50 feels really bad. It wasn't Skill but luck that ended the game.
I still dont get why i never see Uxie with Uxie Lv.X on these lists it had setup like shaymin ex but got 7 cards instead of 6 and was a single prize pokemon that you could then lv up to use its trade off ability and if u wanted to you could use its attack that put it back in the bottom of the deck and use dusk ball to put it right back in your hand
2 words: Power Spray. Uxie resided in the same environment with the only Hand Trap in the history of Pokemon, with an ability almost tailor made to counter Uxie's Poke-Power. Also in DPP times the best Searching cards were Supporters like Roseanne or Cyrus, which put a limit on how often you can go off with Uxies in between turns. in XY the best searcher was Ultra Ball, Meaning you can churn through multiple Shaymin-EX in a turn , allowing you to dig into the deck much faster. As individual cards, Uxie is strictly better, but the environment of it's release was the dealbreaker here.
In my opinion spiritomb with keystone seal is the same broken power level maybe more broken now but the card i think is most broken is battle compressor and it's still not banned
Man so many good memories from back in the day! Lol the game was very simple am very much straight forward in the early days of the game… but in order to make it more competitive am strategic well the game end up complicated! Lol fun times! My deck of preferences was called Tidal Wave! It was Blastoise deck!
Standard format Extended format. What do you mean when you say these terms? I'm trying to follow the video I'm just getting back with the Pokemon trading card as well as collecting and eventually building a deck as my collection builds. So I'm watching your videos to get a heads up on how much has changed in 16 years.
Standard format is basically a rotational format where each year, a bunch of cards are not allowed to be played in that format. From Black & White onwards, we have the expanded format, where every card printed since aforementioned set is legal to play.
@@hickknight okay so standard format it's kind of like saying before Christ when you're referring to historical timepieces and stuff like that BC expanded which is after black and white series all those cards currently unless it's been mentioned already are legal to use
@blountman747 errrr... let me put it this way: TPC made it easier to understand this. Basically, you have 2 formats. One is called standard, and the other is expanded. Most officially played tournaments, leagues, or whatever else falls under official play use the standard format. On the Pokémon TCG website, there should be more information about which sets are legal. The way they've made it easier to identify said cards is by the use of letters. Right now, the standard legal cards are E through G. However, sometime next year, E cards rotate out, and they can not be used anymore in standard formats. These cards become expanded legal only. Cards from the set, Black and White, onwards, are all legal to play in this format only. For example, there's a Gardevoir in standard right now, and I'll call it the shining arcana Gardevoir. However, once the format rotates, as it is called, that card is not allowed to be played in standard format anymore. Only in expanded.
@@hickknight okay I appreciate you breaking that down for me something called rotates from standard to expanded period at what point did it rotate or is this something that happens all the time or it already happened
@hickknight so I guess if I was going to play a Pokemon Trading Card tournament at like the local mom and Pop Shop card store that would be expanded formate but the professional tournament league/ Official would be standard
Really if we’re talking about early sets and not discussing Jungle Clefable you’re not from the era clearly. 1 energy and you can copy ANY of your opponent’s attack basically Scott free (and it was a colorless Pokemon to boot). This card made Electabuzz, Hitmonchan, Scyther, Wigglytuff, and even OG Sneasel shit their pants. All Clefairy has to do was be benched one turn or slap a defender on it. Unlike now Metronome DID NOT require proper energy cost to copy, no coin flip, and no discarding energy if the copied ability made you. All for 1 energy of any type making energy removal of either useless against it. It was so powerful it was the cause of the first Neo set being the standard and the previous sets being rotated out. Double its HP for play today and it’d still wipe its ass with most of the Pokémon today as long as it kept its old text. THIS was the Pokémon that broke the early TCG
ya it is. but shaymin had a greater impact on its meta then uxie did. Shayman had better support (decks built out of mostly item cards that let you thin your hand like ultra ball, trainers mail and puzzle of time) as well as less competition then uxie did (uxie coexisted with claydol another one of the best draw pokemon ever printed).
Night March and BeeMarch were outright broken during their time. Not many decks could win consistently vs it. Thank goodness Pyroar BREAK/Talonflame BREAK and Greninja came out at the tail end of BeeMarch's lifespan to finally give the archtype hell as a goodbye present. Night March giving me hell defined my early career so much, that now i have a personal rule where I refuse to use any deck of a similar archtype. (Lost Box the most current example, United Wings/Ancient Box aka the successors, etc.) Defeating those OP archtypes brings the most satisfaction in the world.
@@therandomizer925 What do you expect in the first couple of years in my career lmao. My abilities started coming into fruition when Breathrough came out, and I created one of the strongest decks of alltime. Unfortunately it wasn't until 2017 that i could do Regional tournaments, so the invented deck never got to show why it was so OP at the higher levels. Breakpoint later came out and i dominated a basic pokemon meta tournament with Pyroar-BREAK and Talonflame-BREAK which was pretty cool.
@@therandomizer925 lol just someone who likes making unique decks, though in these later years more often than not I instead take meta decks and enhance them to their best potential.
.Definitely feel like (pre errata) pokemon catcher/gust of wind should be on this list. Catcher is the only card in the game to recieve a nerf while still legal
Expanded includes cards from Black & White onwards, whereas standard is only from about the last 2 years of sets. Expanded was made different from unlimited to have a more regulated form of play that used old cards but doesn't deal with extremely expensive OP cards, similar to the MTG vintage format.
Who allows things like Shaymin EX to exist at all, in the state they released it? Konami gets crap for releasing stuff like this in Yugioh and now it seems Pokémon TCG also skips play testing altogether or some such crap.
Spent the whole list waiting for two cards that were never mentioned: Blastoise from the original set. You just can't overlook dropping as many water energies as you want every turn. And Sneasel with the "Beat Up" attack from Neo Genesis. That thing wreaked so much havoc, WOTC had no choice but to ban it in a little under a year.
Problem with Blastoise was the amount of setup it took; if you didn't get Pokemon Breeder and Blastoise early the very weak Squirtle could easily be KO'd by a common Electabuzz Also Rain Dance decks typically had a very hard time against Mr. Mime, another very common card, as very few of their attacks met the 30 or less damage condition to get through Invisible Wall
SLOWKING! Bannend pokemon (deck) in the Neo genesis set.... His pokemon power is: if the opponent plays a trainer card he or she may flip a coin, if tails put your trainer card back on top of your deck! So if you have more Slowkings in play, the opponent needs to flip as many coins as many Slowking in play! Total control deck! My favourite deck of all time!
Pokemon.
@narendnp_ Blessed!
Meowie, play yugioh
@@miraipanda NYO
Akumon
So true!!
The other thing to note about any of the "early days of the game" inclusions was that news travelled slowly. So, I remember the first tournament I played where somebody was using Energy Removals and Electabuzz, and it completely wrecked the local meta. Most people were building decks with Zards and Raichus. It was like playing against somebody using cheat codes.
I remember my 1st super trainer showdown as it was called in the early days of competitive TCG! The guy who won was using Steels! Back then!
Everyone was a Joey Wheeler back in the day.
Wow, its kidna crazy to see how much the tcg used "his or her" instead of "their" back in the day. What a mouthful.
Waaaa gender neutral pronouns are scary😭😭its ridiculous how people still say that stuff😭😭😭
@@1ntr0spect98He is talking about using “their” is better. Because “his or her” is simply longer and more convoluted to print on every card instead of just “their”. Classic case of people jumping to conclusions when it comes to sensitive topics. You need to grow up.
@@tanzolo4487 You said "HE" 😱😱😱 ASSUMING SOMEONE'S GENDER?!?!?!
Man, I remember actively playing when ShayminEX was around. Loved that shit.
Everything but the price lol
@@therandomizer925 think it was up to 50 bucks for the regular EX during roaring skies lmao
Ghetsis (Plasma Freeze) probably belongs somewhere here. It was so broken that people thought the effect was wrongly translated. At the time, you could play Supporter cards going first, meaning that a single Ghetsis would completely lock the opponent out of items and make YOU draw 2-4 cards.
The only card not mentioned I can think of being worthy of this list would be Dialga Palkia Arceus Tag Team. For 2 energy, being able to draw an extra prize for each KO made every game KO one Tag Team, then snipe out a backrow with Lysandre, or even better, sniping 2 Crobat V or Dedenne GX with Boss' Orders.
Yeah ADP was hugely shaping the entire meta by rendering 1 prize decks unusable. It was probably the card I wanted to be rotated out the most from standard.
didn’t it work with double dragon energy? So you’d only need to attach 1 energy card to do the 30 more damage AND take the extra prize cards
@@lilhentaimaster6535 it does but IIRC double dragon was never been together with ADP in standard format so that's expanded only combo
@@CrnaStrela ohh okay, thanks for the clarification. It’s cause I remember seeing a Majikarp Troll deck like 2 years ago that used both ADP and double dragon energy 😭
@@CrnaStrela The only thing that saved the Pokémon TCG from losing all of its credibility from ADP rampancy was ironically Covid. Since the lockdowns effectively cancelled the big 2020 Nationals and Worlds, ADP didn't have a massive audience and prize pool to play over, meaning the stakes that ADP played around weren't as high as other Meta-Warping TCG cards of the past like Mewtwo EX.
I remember Sableye suddenly becoming insane with BW rules, everyone was panicking. I remember some Battle Roads events went ahead to see how it would go, and Sableye as expected dominated one he was legal in (I cant remember fully but i think some TOs hosted their BRs without to BW ruleset or something)
For anyone interested in seeing it in action, JWittz still has his playthrough video up. Ridiculous to think that was once Standard format...
As it turns out ancestral recall and wheel of fortune are just as broken in pokémon
Not sure broken time space deserves it’s spot. It was fine and saw quite a bit of play but rare candy could evolve first turn in that format.
I would put Claydol from Great Encounters way above it. 2 Claydol in play would let you cycle your deck so quickly.
I wish it get a reprint
@MISSINGNO.3 didn't Celebrations give it one?
Sorry, you're telling me the Forest of Giant Plants / Decidueye EX deck could not only summon Decidueye on the first turn, but FOUR of them to get a First Turn KO through up to 80HP?? The idea of finding all four copies of Rowlet, Dartrix, AND Decidueye in one turn is absurd; I suppose it really shows the power of Shaymin EX (which would deserve to be above the Forest IMO if it wasn't for that stupid Shiftry combo)
There was literally only one deck that could hard counter it, and that was when Ho-oh-GX/Turtonator-GX came out with Kiawe in Burning Shadows. Though I went even crazier and put Mega Mewtwo in the deck to wreck 90% of the metagame. Too bad I wasn't doing Regionals back then (only locals), cause i think that archtype could have won a big event.
I think Super Energy Removal was the first card ever banned.
woa the demonic cat girl's voice.
I used Lt. Surge's Strategy in my Rotom deck, I tended to go behind as it took a couple of turns at least to power it up and it helped discard tools.
Pokémon TCG: Where creatures on par with deities often find themselves merely being good, and an otherwise unremarkable creature has the ability to bust the meta so bad they have to go extreme emergency patch mode.
Magic the Gathering, where a concubine telling tales to a sultan to not get killed is so fundamentally broken that the effect is never reprinted or where some pirate's pet monkey massively outperforms the biggest evils in the entire series
Yep. Wigglytuff was one of the strongest evolved pokemon early, but it had to evolve from Jigglypuff. And Jigglypuff had only 60HP and was weak to fighting. If your opponent had a lone Jigglypuff and your deck had hitmonchan, it wasn't that hard to use bill/oak/computer search/etc to get hitmonchan, a fighting energy, and two plus power out for the turn one win.
I don’t know if there’s a world where I put Surge above Seeker or Quick Search Pidgeot (original), in fact I don’t know if Surge really belongs on a list like this due to it’s limited viability once released despite how overwhelmingly powerful it was in expanded during it’s era
That aside a perfect list
I gotta say, I enjoy your videos a lot, but this one stood out to me because of the narrator. I’m assuming this was just a hired voice over artist that doesn’t necessarily have any knowledge of the PTCG (although even if this is not true, my point still stands). While I enjoy your videos a lot, this one was significantly easier for me to follow without having to zone out or rewind at certain points, primarily because of the inflection used throughout to give sentences and thoughts an audible structure, as well as being a bit slower to give me time to process the amount of info being thrown at me. It makes for a slightly longer video, but I don’t mind one but when I can understand much more of the info much more easily. In a usual video, the sentences are being read quite quickly and with almost no inflection to help structure the information being read in a way that is more readily digestible, and so I wind up missing a lot of the details that you have meticulously written about because it is being thrown at me so quickly and without much helpful, effective inflection to give all those words some digestible structure.
Sorry for an unsolicited RUclips comment criticism, I’m sure that gets old and this may just go totally unseen, but I just felt like it was worth saying that, while I love your content, having someone who might not even be informed about TCGs read the script with this kind of inflection has made the experience much more enjoyable and digestible for me and my dumb, smooth brain.
Archeops should've definitely been in this top 10 list. Not allowing your opponent to play the game is ridiculously broken af.
That's more of a Maxxie/Archie problem since they cheated any Fighting/Water Stage 2.
Before them, Archeops saw absolutely no play due to how janky BW fossil mechanic was
It was never played throughout it's time, because it was impossibly hard to get out because of the fossil mechanic, and it wouldn't be worth the setup anyway as big basics were the dominant cards. Only the Maxie Hidden Ball trick supporter card in the expanded format made it broken.
There’s a reason expanded is black and white onward, HGSS cards were insane
It's also because gen 1-4 and gen 5+ are completely different from each other in how cards actually functioned.
The thing with Puzzle of time is that it wasn't all that broken in Standard format. It was rarely even a staple until Zoroark GX came out.
This card only broke the game in Expanded format, especially regarding first-turn donk decks.
Omg it's AkuMeowie! I love this video!
Very relaxing voice over.
As it turns out…
Drawing cards?
Pretty good!
In every card game, honestly. Cards mean you have options. It's inherently always good.
Unless you're a gremlin running a hellbent deck in MtG or Infernities in YGO
2:13 Don’t we have cards like that these days?
Edit: I’m referring to Professor’s Research.
And just think, a lot of us old folk had to play through sets full of all of those OGs. Our early days *sucked ass* even compared to how boring Yugioh's earliest days were.
Luckily I played from 2005ish for about 2 years, the game was slightly more balanced at the point I was still playing. Though it does had an issue with quick search Pidgeot allowing you to freely search anything per turn.
Hey, no card game nailed it the first time around. MTG may be one of the only card games not to have a linear line of overall power creep because the first few sets were just so broken.
Man unusually I am sort of annoyed with the guests that DuelLogs gets, but this time it was just downright pleasant.
Also the reason crushing hammer was so frustrating was mostly because of how inconsistent it was. As someone who played competitively a few years ago, it was borderline mandatory for a few decks, especially if you were trying to pump the breaks on a damn tag team ADP. You never knew if you could count on it, and it felt sacky if you hit it 3/3 times, or frustrating if you never got a hit.
I would have added Neo Genesis Slowking to this list. The mistranslated ability was one of the single most oppressive, unintuitive things I've ever seen on a card - and I think that, if that ability were printed today (even on a card with the same stats), it would see tons of play as a way to shut down your opponent any time they try and play a Trainer card.
This video felt like listening to the most pleasant car navigation ever.
I find it kind of funny that, comparing what the game started as to now, Pokémon were way worse and Items were way better. The shot at 3:23 illustrates this the best.
Very common, yugioh is the same
Thank you Meowie for helping out Logs and doing such a good job while you are at it.
Never thought of Pro. Oak as OP, even when playing against him, just a solid card
Honestly even Bill was OP. Any deck not running 4 Oak 4 Bill 4 Computer Search was at a disadvantage.
I dont know. But I feel pidgeot ex is bound to end up on this list soon. Quick search, although a once per turn ability, trivializes draw acceleration. Any card from your entire deck. And it leaves you the option to use a supporter after to do more general acceleration or gusting. And even though it's on a stage 2, a Rare candy trivializes that too. It's a lot less prone to decking out than shoveling your deck into your discard pile is too.
Pidgeot ex is just a reprint of a normal pidgeot from ruby saphire, that also has quick search, but i agree its definetly in the top20 at least
@johnasenfranks5860 i wasn't aware of that! Even more interesting to see them bring it back!
I also didn't really put any credit onto abilities, items, or arenas that might shut abilities off, too. But that kind of applies to shaymin Ex as well, so who knows. I'm not sure if there were any cards with that utility back in shaymin's rotation, though.
That shaymin got me like 😢
Why wasn’t Tag Team Arceus + Dialga + Palkia here
Guest speaker was great. Would love to hear her more if possible. :D
Logs really called in the calvary during these trying times
I feel like a set up uxie should have an honorable mention since it let people go through there deck in one turn in the DP era.
The island challenge amulet as written says that the 1 fewer prize card effect only takes place if damage from an OPPONENT'S attack KOs the Mon it was attached to. So that Jirachi play would just let your opponent draw 2 prize cards?
yep, which allowed you to exploit that using Surge's Strategy/Reset Stamp/Jessie&James/Weezing/Mars/Chip-Chip to empty your opponent's Hand before they even took their next turn, which is why it got banned
Nice to have a narrator that doesn't mispronounce every other word!
I started playing when roaring skies came out, that shaymin ex was around 80€ as soon as it came out. At the fact it came out around nationals it was so broken 💔💔💔
The original slowking was also busted with its pokepower, but I can't remember if that was a translation error or not as it did eventually get an errata.
I watched another video specifically about that Slowking card. It was broken because of a mistranslation by Wizards of the Coast. Slowking's Mind Games ability was supposed to only work if it was in the active slot, but that was not put onto the English card, and WotC refused to fix it.
S-tier voice as soon as I heard her say "Lt. Surge's Strategy"
Anyways, I recently played the OG tcg on Gameboy and I can attest to how broken the old school cards are. Haymaker decks aside, one could easily end their turn ready to violate on their next turn
Who do we prefer: AquaMeowie or TheVTuberLogs?
Both
This voice is GOLD! AMAZING VOICE ACTING!
Crushing hammer was annoying more because it wasn't good. When it hit it hurt but while it's effect could change a game winning or losing because a single well timed 50/50 feels really bad. It wasn't Skill but luck that ended the game.
Too bad Forest of Giant Plants is banned in Expanded format or else I would use it in my Meowscarada deck
I still dont get why i never see Uxie with Uxie Lv.X on these lists it had setup like shaymin ex but got 7 cards instead of 6 and was a single prize pokemon that you could then lv up to use its trade off ability and if u wanted to you could use its attack that put it back in the bottom of the deck and use dusk ball to put it right back in your hand
2 words: Power Spray. Uxie resided in the same environment with the only Hand Trap in the history of Pokemon, with an ability almost tailor made to counter Uxie's Poke-Power. Also in DPP times the best Searching cards were Supporters like Roseanne or Cyrus, which put a limit on how often you can go off with Uxies in between turns. in XY the best searcher was Ultra Ball, Meaning you can churn through multiple Shaymin-EX in a turn , allowing you to dig into the deck much faster.
As individual cards, Uxie is strictly better, but the environment of it's release was the dealbreaker here.
In my opinion spiritomb with keystone seal is the same broken power level maybe more broken now but the card i think is most broken is battle compressor and it's still not banned
reprint Vs Seeker and Compressor cowards
Man so many good memories from back in the day! Lol the game was very simple am very much straight forward in the early days of the game… but in order to make it more competitive am strategic well the game end up complicated! Lol fun times!
My deck of preferences was called Tidal Wave! It was Blastoise deck!
Standard format
Extended format. What do you mean when you say these terms? I'm trying to follow the video I'm just getting back with the Pokemon trading card as well as collecting and eventually building a deck as my collection builds. So I'm watching your videos to get a heads up on how much has changed in 16 years.
Standard format is basically a rotational format where each year, a bunch of cards are not allowed to be played in that format.
From Black & White onwards, we have the expanded format, where every card printed since aforementioned set is legal to play.
@@hickknight okay so standard format it's kind of like saying before Christ when you're referring to historical timepieces and stuff like that BC expanded which is after black and white series all those cards currently unless it's been mentioned already are legal to use
@blountman747 errrr... let me put it this way: TPC made it easier to understand this.
Basically, you have 2 formats. One is called standard, and the other is expanded.
Most officially played tournaments, leagues, or whatever else falls under official play use the standard format. On the Pokémon TCG website, there should be more information about which sets are legal. The way they've made it easier to identify said cards is by the use of letters. Right now, the standard legal cards are E through G.
However, sometime next year, E cards rotate out, and they can not be used anymore in standard formats.
These cards become expanded legal only. Cards from the set, Black and White, onwards, are all legal to play in this format only. For example, there's a Gardevoir in standard right now, and I'll call it the shining arcana Gardevoir. However, once the format rotates, as it is called, that card is not allowed to be played in standard format anymore. Only in expanded.
@@hickknight okay I appreciate you breaking that down for me something called rotates from standard to expanded period at what point did it rotate or is this something that happens all the time or it already happened
@hickknight so I guess if I was going to play a Pokemon Trading Card tournament at like the local mom and Pop Shop card store that would be expanded formate but the professional tournament league/ Official would be standard
Let me in - youve got 10 seconds to beat it before i add you to the list of NSF casualties ahh guest voice
Idk where you found AkuMeowi man, im sold to both of you
Really if we’re talking about early sets and not discussing Jungle Clefable you’re not from the era clearly. 1 energy and you can copy ANY of your opponent’s attack basically Scott free (and it was a colorless Pokemon to boot). This card made Electabuzz, Hitmonchan, Scyther, Wigglytuff, and even OG Sneasel shit their pants. All Clefairy has to do was be benched one turn or slap a defender on it. Unlike now Metronome DID NOT require proper energy cost to copy, no coin flip, and no discarding energy if the copied ability made you. All for 1 energy of any type making energy removal of either useless against it. It was so powerful it was the cause of the first Neo set being the standard and the previous sets being rotated out. Double its HP for play today and it’d still wipe its ass with most of the Pokémon today as long as it kept its old text. THIS was the Pokémon that broke the early TCG
Bro i think you're out of a job
Ah, she said "pokeymon", forget it
Isn't Uxie from Legends Awakened just Shaymin EX but better though
ya it is. but shaymin had a greater impact on its meta then uxie did. Shayman had better support (decks built out of mostly item cards that let you thin your hand like ultra ball, trainers mail and puzzle of time) as well as less competition then uxie did (uxie coexisted with claydol another one of the best draw pokemon ever printed).
Uxie had to worry about Power Spray and being sniped on the bench.
Very nice history.
I was playing Night March when Lysander's Trump Card came out, it felt targeted
Night March and BeeMarch were outright broken during their time. Not many decks could win consistently vs it. Thank goodness Pyroar BREAK/Talonflame BREAK and Greninja came out at the tail end of BeeMarch's lifespan to finally give the archtype hell as a goodbye present. Night March giving me hell defined my early career so much, that now i have a personal rule where I refuse to use any deck of a similar archtype. (Lost Box the most current example, United Wings/Ancient Box aka the successors, etc.) Defeating those OP archtypes brings the most satisfaction in the world.
@_G50_ bro, I think you were just bad
@@therandomizer925 What do you expect in the first couple of years in my career lmao. My abilities started coming into fruition when Breathrough came out, and I created one of the strongest decks of alltime. Unfortunately it wasn't until 2017 that i could do Regional tournaments, so the invented deck never got to show why it was so OP at the higher levels. Breakpoint later came out and i dominated a basic pokemon meta tournament with Pyroar-BREAK and Talonflame-BREAK which was pretty cool.
@@_G50_ you an anime protagonist or something
@@therandomizer925 lol just someone who likes making unique decks, though in these later years more often than not I instead take meta decks and enhance them to their best potential.
.Definitely feel like (pre errata) pokemon catcher/gust of wind should be on this list. Catcher is the only card in the game to recieve a nerf while still legal
we need energy removal back!
I don't know who this guest speaker is but I would like more top tens from her.
I keep expecting her to chastise me for wasting my points on nothing and call me an idiot
What is the difference between standard and expanded?
Expanded includes cards from Black & White onwards, whereas standard is only from about the last 2 years of sets. Expanded was made different from unlimited to have a more regulated form of play that used old cards but doesn't deal with extremely expensive OP cards, similar to the MTG vintage format.
Loving this, but already Oak is waaay too low.
oak and bill may be busted, but don't cause a 9-card ban, the first standard ban in almost 20 years, or an emergency rotation
Shaymin EX and it’s consequences
Who allows things like Shaymin EX to exist at all, in the state they released it? Konami gets crap for releasing stuff like this in Yugioh and now it seems Pokémon TCG also skips play testing altogether or some such crap.
Shaymin EX and Tapu Lele GX have been the most expensive staples I can recall ($80)
thank you ms dexlogs
Hmm, people hate guest speakers. I have an idea, I'll get a voice so majestic they miss #10 just being mesmerized
What a lovely, lovely voice.
he really got her to voice a script... wow
Came here for the card log, but the voice ;-; omg
Please have her do more of these....
I like the natration on this video
I wish we could use items in VGC😅
Crushing hammer was energy removal until they changed it these people never do their research
I need every video with this girls voice
No slowking?
We need Aku to feature more frequently
Best Pokémon EX Card. Worst Pokémon Movie. I'd say that balances out.
Mr Logs paid meowie so much de bloonssss i think. Yugioh next meowie. 😂
LET'S GOOOOO IT'S MEOWIE!!!!
Spent the whole list waiting for two cards that were never mentioned:
Blastoise from the original set. You just can't overlook dropping as many water energies as you want every turn.
And Sneasel with the "Beat Up" attack from Neo Genesis. That thing wreaked so much havoc, WOTC had no choice but to ban it in a little under a year.
Blastoise was powerful if it even got into play before your opponent gust of winded out the Squirtle and thunderpunched.
Problem with Blastoise was the amount of setup it took; if you didn't get Pokemon Breeder and Blastoise early the very weak Squirtle could easily be KO'd by a common Electabuzz
Also Rain Dance decks typically had a very hard time against Mr. Mime, another very common card, as very few of their attacks met the 30 or less damage condition to get through Invisible Wall
I dnt think sableye is the most broken of all time..boss's orders is
Mr Logs finally got his anime girl voice update👀👀👀
Nowadays Charizard EX
can we go back to the normal voice
Stim voice work for hirumared main channel when?
SLOWKING! Bannend pokemon (deck) in the Neo genesis set....
His pokemon power is: if the opponent plays a trainer card he or she may flip a coin, if tails put your trainer card back on top of your deck! So if you have more Slowkings in play, the opponent needs to flip as many coins as many Slowking in play!
Total control deck! My favourite deck of all time!
adp maybe
Lmao. ASMR dexlogs
The script writer is so hot
Nice
Hey hold on..that's a mommy voice?
Is this a joke?