This is why I love TFL. I have watched 4 of these videos now. All about 20 minutes, but I learned so much more about the Bronco and what it can do from TFL compared to others.
@@groberts1980 At this point Ford can concentrate all efforts on getting us our Bronco’s. I don’t need to here anything from Ford other than “Congratulations, your Bronco has been delivered”
Yeah but with GM making some really undependable failures for trucks would you really want to spend 40-60K on an off road GM vehicle that will break down on the streets, let alone what will happen off road. My GM Sierra was a nightmare and I will NEVER buy another GM vehicle. I detailed all of its issues to the buyer and sold the truck for $800 and felt bad for the new owner at145,00 miles. Trash.. What garbage they are making these days. I changed the oil religiously with Synthetic and did the maintenance but it was a poorly engineered vehicle with electrical problems, a rear end that Quit beginning at 40k miles and failing corroded brake lines (and other issues that GM knows about) that never saw a day of salted roads. POS. Stay away or you will regret it.
GM is falling way behind in the niche markets! No competition for the TRX & Raptor and no Competition for Bronco and Wrangler. I love my Old GMs but the new stuff is crapola.
@@IskateUphill right, and with our F-150's we disconnect the front swaybar entirely, but definitely when going off road it would be disconnected the entire time
@@Dan007UT yeah my next vehicle is a gladiator just waiting for the 22s to come out. Sold my truck while used car prices were high. Gonna try and convince my wife to get the bronco for her next vehicle and get the best of both worlds
I hate to say this, but I have seen a Bronco sport guy waving at another Bronco sport at a light. I'm pretty sure Bronco people will be doing this too. I had a Tacoma guy wave at me when driving the Taco.
I hate the waves. Now the stupid duck thing is going around. People with big rims, rubber band tires and every dumb Jeep accessory throw all over their mall crawlers. I’m there with you.
@@catfishmudflap I guess. It's kind of just a measuring stick, you don't say your wood planks have an inferiority complex when you keep comparing it to your measuring tape.
before the Bronco, the Jeep kinda had the market to itself. Now that there's a new competitor, it would only make sense to compare it against the established model.
as a plow operator specializing in urban/suburban snow removal, I think being able to lock the front diff independently of rear would be a great asset. plowing downhill into driveway, all weight & plow on front axle and needing to back out in slippery snow without sliding to a side. lock front with all weight/traction pushing & rear allowed to track independently without need to drag front out which often causes rear end to slide out to the side. not sure Bronco is good for plowing only saying like the idea of locking the front independent of anything else.
I have been a keep fan forever! But I must say that The Ford bronco have brought their A Game and all I have to say is that Jeep has their work cut out for them. Nothing like the locking inner wheel for doing front end digs or sharp turns is amazing as well as sway bar disconnect in any situation. Also offering lockers in multiple styles of bronco.
I’m not convinced you really need lockers for every situation. I’ve done plenty of rough trails without them. I think Bronco locks everything up to hide the fact these things will be seesawing all over the trail.
@@johnwilliams615 I've had some kind of high-clearance, low-range vehicle or other since buying a new Samurai back in 1987. The first time I went on the Rubicon Trail, I was a six year old kid riding on the passenger seat of my uncle's Willys MB, which all stock down to 6.0 x 16 NDT tires on combat rims, with the exception of aftermarket recovery hooks and a roll-over protection bar. No lift. No lockers. No problem. But that's a testament to an 80" wheelbase, 49" track width, and sub-2,500 pound curb weight. The more compact a vehicle is, the more options for placing it on the trail one has, so the more options for lines through challenges one can have available to them. When you can keep relatively even ground pressure on all four tires, open differentials drive all four wheels. When you can't make that happen in a flat-fender Jeep, but can use the brake and accelerator pedal at the same time, you don't need as much tractive force to keep a 2,460 pound vehicle moving as you do to keep a 4,000+ pound vehicle moving. I had a '73 Bronco on stock suspension with factory front and rear LSD that I never ran a tire taller than 32" on. I had that over the Rubicon and on the nearby Dusy-Ershim Trail many times. It was bigger than a flat-fender Jeep, having a longer 92" wheelbase and weighing right at 3,500 pounds. With bigger tires and traction-aiding differentials, it really wouldn't go anywhere a bone stock flat-fender couldn't. The last time I did the Rubicon, I did it in a four-banger ragtop TJ weighing 3,250 pounds. I had rear LSD and ran 31" tires on it. No aftermarket lift. No lockers. No massive rubber. No problem. I think one of the reasons why youngsters today think you have to have selectable lockers front and rear and 35" or larger tires in order to negotiate anything tougher than a graded dirt fire road is because of the size and weight of the newer vehicles they run, coupled with a lack of first-hand experience regarding what a bone-stock flat-fender Jeep is really capable of doing as a byproduct of its compact size and light weight. In sum, the bigger a vehicle is, the less options one has for placement on the trail in relation to the obstacles presented and the heavier it is, the more tractive force it takes to keep it moving. So, the bigger and heavier a vehicle is, the more "necessary" lockers and massive rubber become. One thing the JL Wrangler convinced me of is that I don't want or need something that big and heavy to run trails with and the New Bronco is even bigger and heavier than that.
@@cherch I think your assessment of the Bronco Sport as being direct competition for the current Cherokee is spot on. I know people who have bought them and as a result, I have had the chance to drive them on the street and in the dirt. My general impression is it's better off-pavement than it has any apparent right to be. One of the people I know who bought one is a quail hunting buddy of mine out in California and he reports that he's been out to our quail hunting spots in the BLM Jawbone Canyon area, at Opal Mountain, and on the desert slope of the San Bernardino Range. Mostly, he's been favorably impressed with how well it works in the dirt. He's had his Bronco Sport on more "rugged" terrain than my friends in my home state have. He reports that he thinks he found the limit of Bronco Sport capability in the form of designated route 3N17 in Southern California's San Bernardino National Forest. He still made it to our chukar spot on White Mountain, though. He said it just wasn't too happy about getting him there, as the steep, rocky climb exposes the handicap of the 20:1 crawl ratio. I mention that particular route because it's a little more technical than I'd want to do in a Bronco Sport after driving one myself in the dirt and because there's RUclips video out there of this trail and what it's like, if you're interested in seeing what the limit of Bronco Sport capability might be. There's a whole lot of off-pavement driving that an off-road trim Bronco Sport could not just handle, but handle pretty well. I'm thinking here of faster, relatively flat high-desert type terrain where the suspension setup and relatively high crawl ratio aren't a huge handicap. For people like my California quail hunting buddy, trading off rock-crawling capability the Bronco Sport doesn't have for the civilized ride on the kind of desert terrain it appears to handle well is a worthwhile trade. For what it is, I think it's one of the better vehicles of its type out there.
OK, that sway bar disconnect while under load was really impressive. Also impressive just how much articulation that IFS offers. Well-designed by Ford! As ever, thank you TFL for your highly informative and entertaining reviews. You guys are doing awesome work.
Right! Meanwhile the new Defender has zero suspension travel or articulation. I bet it would lift a wheel driving over a speed bump in a mall parking lot if you crossed it at an angle while in offroad height. This is indeed very impressive front wheel articulation. Especially considering its and independent front suspension! Well done Ford.
how much is it going to cost to have that added though, i dont want all the crap that comes in the big fullsize i just want the sasquach package and that sway bar disconnnect
@@AustinH7 that is true, but its better than the defender which has zero articulation and looks like a skateboard offroading. That thing lifts wheels on the tiniest obstacles. It has zero downward travel!
I think that look is hideous and I see it all over here in the NW. To each their own, I personally think it looks ridiculous. Especially when they're offset out of the wheels wells several inches. I think this new bronco has a great stock look to it.
@@mrpoizun exactly, yet when it snows they're the first dip shits to blow by you at 70mph. I can't count how many times I've seen these living after births flipped in the ditch as soon as the ice and snow hits.
@@mrpoizun ALL the big names in offroading are using 20" wheels and 37"+ tire sizes so obviously you don't have a clue. I'm guessing the most offroading you do is on a dirt road and probably lucky if it's even a 4x4 😂
Outstanding video. The example of the sway bar disconnect in action was really cool to see. Being able to use lockers independently, in high range, and so easily was really impressive. Thanks for the informative video
@@ivangpavlovic5721 I don't expect Ford to put any V8 engine in the Bronco. They'll probably put the Explorer ST's engine or force the current Raptor's engine under that hood.
Enjoyable review. I live in Los Angles, CA. Traffic and highways are my life. Off-Road is my joy. I ride motorcycles and the "getting there" vs. "once you are there" debate has been THE issue in the "Adventure Bike" segment for years. I have a 2015 Jeep Rubicon and 2012 Ford Raptor. I have a Badlands / Sasquatch 2 door on order. It can't come soon enough. I have pumped thousands into the Jeep simply to drive it. I have paid for an alignment or 2 on the Raptor. Truth be known, I don't know how the Wrangler would perform "off road" because with the death wobble I endure (and have endured in 3 consecutive Jeeps) I would never take it to off-road sites because you need to get there to find out. My 17 year old son howled with delight last weekend hitting 110 mph off-road in after driving up a 45% + degree hill in the 2012 150,000 Mile Plus Raptor. The 2015 Rubicon with 40K mile was at home. He hates driving that POS down the street. MEN. Hear my words. When I go to 4 wheels I drive my 2012 Raptor. The 2015 "Rubicon" is my wife's car. Her 2015 low-mileage Rubicon is of little value. My 2012 Raptor is still worth good money. BUT I am replacing HER car because "her" Jeep is a POS my wife and I both know to be inferior to the older Raptor I drive. If you don't understand that a WIDE BODIED truck like a Raptor should NEVER compete in all-purpose off-road situations with a dedicated off-road vehicle I got nothin' for you. The Jeep has been dead for years. My Raptor says "trust Ford." I did. I can't wait.
Customers: Jeep… we want a wrangler with a V8, more off-road goodies, etc. Jeep: it can’t be done. Ford: here ya go guys. The new bronco. Everything you wanted and how ever you want it. Jeep: Great news people! We just thought of a great idea: why not put a V8, more off-road goodies, and whatever “etc” means. It just came to us in our sleep.
Fords from the mid 90s threw 2016ish were JUNK. But the new CEO (Jim Hackett) and head engineers said enough is enough and are no every active in improving their reliability. No more cost cutting when it comes to the drivetrain. Vs say like Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Kia, and Jeep that just point the finger at everyone else for any issues they have.
@@devinbender8428 Ford might well have made a bunch of junk during the time frame you outlined, but my 2002 Mustang on my driveway as I type this would argue against being labeled "junk" if it had the capacity to do so. It's been daily driven and thrashed on autocross courses and club track days from new and at 107,000 miles, and getting on 20 years old, I haven't come close to wearing the new off it yet. It has been exceptionally reliable, needing only replacement of wear items like tires, brake pads and windshield wipes along with oil and filter changes. I don't need a new one precisely because I haven't worn the new off this one yet and its just a much grin-inducing fun now as it was when new.
@John Doyle: I've got a list of things I don't like about this New Bronco, starting with its size and weight, and moving down to things like an electronically-shifted transfer case in lieu of a mechanical shifter, and a bunch of other things new vehicles have that I'm not a fan of, like drive-by-wire throttle control, electric power steering, electric e-brake, and TIPM-type chassis electrical architecture, along with LCD "gauges" instead of analog type, and touch-screen "infotainment." I could overlook some of my gripes if I liked the way it looked, but it looks too much like a cartoon version of Scout 80 to me to get seriously enthused about the styling. I'm leaning toward buying one, but for my automatic-transmission hating wife to drive to work in. So if we do get one, it'll be a base model with a manual transmission. It should have enough four-wheel drive capability to handle snow days and that's all my wife needs it to do. I'm not under some illusion that any version of this New Bronco would do something on the trail that I couldn't get done by building a CJ-2A in a ground-up resto-mod, or some other piece of old iron, for that matter.
@@jerroldshelton9367 oh absolutely! There were a few good models in there. Most f150s, most mustangs and all Panther body’s. But things like the Focus fusion and Taurus definitely had their growing pains. Simple truth is they couldn’t compete with Japan in terms of build quality vs price. Sure they could make a better vehicle but not for as cheap. But I just hope it’s not too little to late for some people. I know quite a few people that are on the “never again ford” train because of issues hey have had.
The Bronco looks like a great vehicle and I am happy that Jeep finally has some competition. I hope the one place Jeep responds is in price. Ford has priced the Bronco very aggressively. I won't be trading in my JK though. It's not a Rubicon but it is super capable (it's been built out a bit) and does everything I need it to do.
Tommy and Andre did a fantastic job giving OBJECTIVE reviews all week with Roman saying, “hold my beer”. Thankfully we did not have to sit through another Roman bashing Ford video.
@@richfarfugnuven6308 I am not any fanboy Rich. I call it like I see it, he is not perfect and not always objective. Take both Jeep and Ford to Moab and let the vehicles do what they do bash away.
@@willriley1262 agreed on the Moab part. He does however always point out the crappy seats in the Gladiator. The crappy defroster as well. He always points out the antiquated interior and engines in the Toyota as well as the old interiors and crappy info-tainment system in the GMC/Chevy HD trucks. I think he is just trying to not be a fanboy for anyone. Don't forget he loves the Cummins in the Ram and pointed out the crappy interiors until they updated and also aired the part on TFL offroad where they snapped the front driveline in the Ram Rebel and said it was unacceptable. He bashes all equally in my opinion...
I love seeing American car companies make it easy to be proud of them, feels like American car makers are back, which no matter what you like is good for everyone.
The thing is you can get a base bronco add the Sasquatch pack and you got a badass off-roader. I’m willing to bet you’re gonna pay a very pretty penny for that “rubicon+” model.
Chrysler/RAM/Jeep (Stellantis, I know) is the most innovative car company ever. They don't really need competitors for them to come up with new ideas. They do that by default. Still, I will agree that competition is never a bad thing.
According to 4wheeler magizine the JLUR scored a 693 with sway bar disengaged on a 20 degree ramp. And the bronco 4 door scores a 700, which we don’t know what degree. But the biggest thing that helps the wrangler is the easability to maximize that number with mods. Take MC lifts, with their game changer 3.5” lift and running OME shocks they report a 982 on a 20 degree ramp and that lift requires no control arm relocation. Straight bolt in application. Obviously alittle pricy, but with an IFS it’s had to gain that travel without widening the front. Obviously a small lift can go one, but now we have to worry about the cv angles and what limits they have. I’m really curious how the aftermarket community is going to mod out the bronco to really make it competitive against the wrangler where it counts. But no doubt the bronco will kick ass in the speed and desert setting. Can’t wait for these to come out and get that bug year pass so I can make my decision to get this or just another wrangler.
Excellent video! I've had a Jeep and they are great, but this looks like a much more comfortable option as a daily driver. Regardless, this will push both the Bronco and Jeep brands to build even more capable and bada$$ vehicles. Keep up the good work guys!
I do believe Jeep’s jamboree showed the capability with obstacles that were very challenging a couple of years. TFL REMEMBERS... THIS course that Ford set up should be called Driving Miss Daisy thru the Texas cute landscape.
How do they accurately measure water fording ability to the 10th of an inch? They just made that crap up. So at 33.5 inches the Bronco is all good at 33.6 inches you better call a tow truck or make sure you have a wench.
It’s primarily based on “what features can’t get wet” then measure from that point to ground. But every manufacturer does it differently and measures them different. Just like BOA and clearance. So yes virtually tied
@@dirtsailoroff-road5580 Mine in my jeep are in the frame rails and i still waterproof over the hood with a snorkel. The only thing i’ve ran was airbox snorkel.
@@cablenowadays6586 I have an 07 Rubicon. I want the river raider relocation kit. It moves it to the air box. But in all reality, if it gets above your hood, even with a water tight snorkel you're screwed.
Considering the ranger is probably as big as a 78 through 90s pick up that would make the bronco probably damn near about the same size as your old clunker bronco
@@robertchapman4488 '78 & '79 Bronco was built off the F-150... Bronco II was built off the ranger... So unless today's Ranger is the same size as that era F-150 I highly doubt it..
At ~1:02 when TFL Tommy says the following: "... we're here to give our detailed impressions of the 2021 Bronco ..." André's big silly smile already tells me all that I need to know without having to watch the rest of the video 😁😆🤣🤣🤣
I've never liked Fords and never liked Chryslers, but the Jeep is a heck of a lot of fun. I just rented one for a week in CO and had a blast on stock tires/rims. I can only imagine how much fun I would have had with a slightly modded Jeep. Nice job Ford. I'm excited to drive one of these.
Great job guys finally an honest review! Only review I've watched so far that doesn't feel like its sponsored by ford. It looks like a great vehicle cant wait to see when you drive it in Colorado.
@@thomasc5687 i dont believe that are shock mount bolts since it’s a eyelet shock from the looks. I’m really excited to see after market lift kits. Bigger control arms, Bigger tire rods, longer shocks, and FORTIES. Can’t wait to see someone shove 40s under their jeep and a front solid axle swap because i know someone will do it like they did in the ranger.
thank you guys for all your hard work. As much as I loved my "First Gen" Raptor, and my last 2 F250s ( All "work" Trucks btw) I'm still not sold on this new Bronco....... All these new electric bells and whistles are cool in all but what made the Bronco so great before was its simplicity and toughness. Back then it was truly more then just competition for the Wrangler. Hope all these new fancy tricks can stand up to years of abuse and still work just as good.
As a Jeep owner I’m really impressed with this bronco. I’m not in the market for a new vehicle but when I am I’ll definitely give the bronco a glance. Great video
I'm glad I was able to do this course, I was in love with the whole set up. Either I'm a natural off roader with my small amount of experience. Or this vehicle makes you great.
I cant wait for the Bronco to showcase what stock IFS can offer the offroad world, not just for high speed rough terrain, but slow technical trails. The RTI on this is excellent! FYI, for TFL. Pretty sure the "17%" improvement was for wheel travel, not specifically articulation. The Wrangler still can articulate a bit more (barely) but has less outright wheel travel which is very important for rough terrain in general.
Independent front locker is a huge bonus. Rear locker in 2Hi is also badass. I want one of these so bad. I wish they would allow for tech and luxury options with the manual transmission. The lack of upgrades available if you want a manual is a huge disappointment.
@@mechmat12345, I just now figured that out when I built one on my laptop. I was trying to build one on my phone a few days ago and it wouldn't allow it. Not sure if it was just a glitch or if they changed it in the last few days. I also tried to build a black diamond trim level first and I think I just assumed that the restrictions there carried on through the other trim levels. Now if they would just allow the sasquatch package for the manual.
It looks as though it may be similar to the Ranger frame but possibly wider? It could just be an illusion though due to how short the Bronco is, and how big the 35s are with those fender flares and -ve offset. Gorgeous truck.
I'd much rather pay 47k and spend money to upgrade the crap out of the Bronco than pay 60 to 70k for a stock Jeep. It looks promising. Only the trails will tell! Thank God for competition!
Canceled my Bronco reservation a couple of days ago. Heavily considering a Jeep Wrangler 2 door Willys Sport very similar to Tom’s that he recently made a video about. They just seem like such a better and definitely more affordable option. Like he said in his video: “everything you need, and nothing you don’t”
Straight up!. First mods to my 2 door sport: $250 got me quick disconnects for the sway bar & a rubicon recon take off suspension that gave me almost a 2" lift.
@@angelgjr1999 Well it's had the same general appearance for over half a century. That just goes to show how they hold their value so well. People like how they look.
Just something about the look of the Bronco I can't get into, I feel like the Wrangler looks better all around, but performance wise it seems like either will do the same as the other depending on the package you spring for.
Hope you don't take this wrong, but the obstacles at the event look at least as difficult as any we ever see you attempt in Colorado for sure, and maybe even at moab. Again, not being critical, I think the terrain on which you typically focus is way more appropriate for most viewers than extreme off roading seen on some channels. I just don't see where getting it on your home turf is going to test to a higher level, unless you are upping the ante for bronco.
they are not going to have an extreme course for a bunch of car reporters who have no idea how to drive off pavement. tfl is more the exception than the rule
Jeeps response is great, but the truck will be like 78k, which to me, someone who would be shopping in the 40-50 range, wouldn’t even consider jeeps answer to the bronco. It needs to be in the same price point to make sense.
This Bronco looks like a proper offroad and makes more sense than a Chinese Land/Rangerover I wish they still made the Toyota FJ Cruiser that was my favourite.
The landrover defender is a good off roader and it have the best awd terrain and wheel spin control which no off road brand have as good awd system as landrover for off roading but for me its a hard choice between the bronco or the wrangler
@@davisstephens8405 Yes they offer a way over priced 392 good point. It comes with jeeps tradition of making one of the least reliable vehicle lists for the past 40 years. I am sure though that now with the help of peugeot, fiat, alpha and the rest of the ultra high quality stellantis group things will only improve.
I think Ford did a great job tapping into the first gen Bronco retro look. As a Jeep guy I have always like the old Bronco's and Scouts, so this is a welcomed addition to todays off road trucks. I own a Gladiator because I need a truck someday if they do a Bronco truck I may go there. Two areas I would have liked to see would have been a 5.0 option (But those old 302 badges on) and a solid axel front end.
1000% Fantastic off road machine! Extremely excellent explanations of what all the features do! Camera angles were great. Audio was superb. Editing is top notch. Makes me want 1 of these. Best Monday video ever!
I'm actually glad the bronco is here and that jeep does have competition and I'm a die hard Jeep dude. This will finally make Jeep get off their butts and change some stuff.
I'm not reading all the comments, so sure this has been mentioned. The TPS light is on. Presumably, because they lowered the tire air pressure for traction and a softer ride.
I'm a wrangler owner and I like what i see there. However I really question those control arms. They look like they will get murdered once they start hitting rocks. I'll be interested to see how they hold up on the rocks.
Aluminum lower control arms with a downward exposed bolt and no protection -> this seems like a pretty poor design for an off-roader. My 4runner control arms are solid steel and beat up pretty bad from hitting rocks.
As someone who has owned vehicles for more decades than I'd like to admit, I see tons of switches and sensors and over-the-top electronic aids here - not to mention, the turbocharging system - to malfunction at some point, and (once out-of-warranty) cost a lot of money to troubleshoot and repair. I prefer mechanical simplicity.
mpg isnt great but they have 4.7 and 4.9 rear ends on 35s. I mean... I also think Jeep's response is hollow at best. Lets see them offer locking dana 44s and 35s on all trims like the Bronco.
Locking 44s is what makes a rubicon bit they aren't even true dana 44s because the only difference is the pumpkin with a bigger ring gear. The rest of the Axel and c's are exactly like the 30 its a scam.
Lol. Man, these comments. I think the Jeep Fan Boys are a bit defensive. Seriously. Ford did an amazing job with the Bronco. Let's not forget about the very capable and off-road-worthy Chevrolet Blazer...oh, wait. Never mind. Lol. Having options is great. It will be fun watching things escalate.
Rubicon “Xtreme” is too little too late and makes it look like Jeep’s panicking. We’ll see how they really intend on taking on the Bronco with the JL mid-cycle refresh
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This is why I love TFL. I have watched 4 of these videos now. All about 20 minutes, but I learned so much more about the Bronco and what it can do from TFL compared to others.
If you can deal with the nerdy kid saying “proper” constantly, they generally offer a decent review.
I was a nerdy kid once and didn’t even notice his word usage so maybe that’s why it appeals to me.
They are doing a better job than Ford of educating people on what the Bronco offers and the differences between the models. Great job, TFL!
@@groberts1980 At this point Ford can concentrate all efforts on getting us our Bronco’s. I don’t need to here anything from Ford other than “Congratulations, your Bronco has been delivered”
When you have a friend write a complimentary comment to pin😬😂
Whether you're a Bronco fan or Jeep fan , this competition between Ford and Jeep is great for us off-road enthusiasts
I want Toyota to join the fun
Jeep fan here, becoming a Ford Fan as well with this Bronco. When businesses compete, consumers win. Even better years of off-roading ahead.
I'm with dalton... Come on yota! The 4 runners good, but something with front and rear lockers, and disconnectable sway bars
@@Duane14 Toyota needs to bring the FJ back!
Definitely, Jeep fan here as well but I love that the bronco is giving Jeep a run for it's money, competition in this segment will be a win win.
Ford: "We want to conserve our trails". Next scene: "Turn assist engaged".
That's funny, it didn't occur to me! :-)
That is a thing I try to avoid all day on zero turn mower keep both tire turning all the time.
great point!
I got kind of sick when I saw that turn digging up the soil that bad as things like that will get the hobby BANED
@@tommays56 God i love the constant attacks on all of my hobbies because of crazies.
GM really missed an opportunity with the new Blazer.
Damn you. Why did you have to bring that up? Lol
They could have done something on the ZR2 platform or something better than a rebranded Traverse.
GM Bring Out your only hope to be cool Bring back a retro 80s style GMC Jimmy! Something that looks like the K-5 blazer but with GMC badge ...
Yeah but with GM making some really undependable failures for trucks would you really want to spend 40-60K on an off road GM vehicle that will break down on the streets, let alone what will happen off road. My GM Sierra was a nightmare and I will NEVER buy another GM vehicle. I detailed all of its issues to the buyer and sold the truck for $800 and felt bad for the new owner at145,00 miles. Trash.. What garbage they are making these days. I changed the oil religiously with Synthetic and did the maintenance but it was a poorly engineered vehicle with electrical problems, a rear end that Quit beginning at 40k miles and failing corroded brake lines (and other issues that GM knows about) that never saw a day of salted roads. POS. Stay away or you will regret it.
GM is falling way behind in the niche markets! No competition for the TRX & Raptor and no Competition for Bronco and Wrangler. I love my Old GMs but the new stuff is crapola.
GM hasn’t made a cool car in decades, besides the corvette c8 of course.
Actually seeing the sway bar disconnect and letting the vehicle settle back down to the ground is actually really cool!
I'd love to see a deeper dive into that system, seeing how Toyota has been telling us for years that it couldn't be easily done with IFS.
Yea and having it already disconnected is what I would have done
Still was in the air, but still a pretty cool demonstration
@@IskateUphill right, and with our F-150's we disconnect the front swaybar entirely, but definitely when going off road it would be disconnected the entire time
@@getcheese good point, sometimes I forget about Lexus. I just wish more of their tech would trickle down to us poors in our Toyotas lol
Jeeps are pretty awesome, new Bronco is pretty awesome, customers win with more options, there are always gonna be fan bois and haters.
Everybody wins now because there is good competition between the two, which will promote ingenuity.
Couldn have said it better
Just like the Chevy vs Toyota arguments. haha
@@Dan007UT yeah my next vehicle is a gladiator just waiting for the 22s to come out. Sold my truck while used car prices were high. Gonna try and convince my wife to get the bronco for her next vehicle and get the best of both worlds
JEEPS ARE TRASH I OWNED ONE HATED IT’S RELIABILITY
Yeah I’m trading my Wrangler. No allegiance here, I’m tired of having to wave back at people.
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Ain't got to do anything except breathe till you stop
I hate to say this, but I have seen a Bronco sport guy waving at another Bronco sport at a light. I'm pretty sure Bronco people will be doing this too. I had a Tacoma guy wave at me when driving the Taco.
I hate the waves. Now the stupid duck thing is going around. People with big rims, rubber band tires and every dumb Jeep accessory throw all over their mall crawlers. I’m there with you.
I haven't been waived at when driving my wife's Prius. 😜
Ford really hit it out of the park with this bronco! Competition is great!
Just don't hit the rear shock mounts on a rock
Nope, no V8.
This one looks good but the stripped down ones with the tiny tires look terrible. Looks like a shitty jeep compass
@@davisstephens8405 ok well 99% of Jeep’s don’t have v8 either bruh
@@cdawg3506 your loss
I love competition for 2 reasons. They force each other to up their game and keep the pricing down.
Who’s keeping the pricing down?
Yes, Jeep's kind of had this particular genre all to itself. Now they are really going to have to step it up!
@@rogerbeutler5671 unfortunately I have little faith in fiat so any improvement would be a pleasant surprise
Cheers
@@tomdavis3038 I'm a Ford guy so I'm glad Ford finally stepped up to the plate.
I hope jeep will reduce the price bronco is so expensive
I would get the Bronco for the livability of the independent front suspension, I love the 2.3 and 2.7 engines, and it just looks so cool.
Agreed. 100% spot on. I've driven the 2.3l and 2.7l on regular basis over the years. Great engines
The fact that Jeep is seeing the Bronco as a threat shows that Ford must be doing something right
If you have to talk about the Jeep every time you say Bronco then you have and inferiority complex.
@@catfishmudflap I guess. It's kind of just a measuring stick, you don't say your wood planks have an inferiority complex when you keep comparing it to your measuring tape.
before the Bronco, the Jeep kinda had the market to itself. Now that there's a new competitor, it would only make sense to compare it against the established model.
@@catfishmudflap That's not what having an inferiority complex means...
@@catfishmudflap you make no sense...
as a plow operator specializing in urban/suburban snow removal, I think being able to lock the front diff independently of rear would be a great asset. plowing downhill into driveway, all weight & plow on front axle and needing to back out in slippery snow without sliding to a side. lock front with all weight/traction pushing & rear allowed to track independently without need to drag front out which often causes rear end to slide out to the side. not sure Bronco is good for plowing only saying like the idea of locking the front independent of anything else.
This is definitely not a plow vehicle, but I get your point.
Thanks. Very informative
Just get an arb locker
I have been a keep fan forever! But I must say that The Ford bronco have brought their A Game and all I have to say is that Jeep has their work cut out for them. Nothing like the locking inner wheel for doing front end digs or sharp turns is amazing as well as sway bar disconnect in any situation. Also offering lockers in multiple styles of bronco.
Most of the girls that buy these will never see more than missing the driveway and hitting some grass LOL
I’m not convinced you really need lockers for every situation. I’ve done plenty of rough trails without them. I think Bronco locks everything up to hide the fact these things will be seesawing all over the trail.
@@johnwilliams615 I've had some kind of high-clearance, low-range vehicle or other since buying a new Samurai back in 1987.
The first time I went on the Rubicon Trail, I was a six year old kid riding on the passenger seat of my uncle's Willys MB, which all stock down to 6.0 x 16 NDT tires on combat rims, with the exception of aftermarket recovery hooks and a roll-over protection bar. No lift. No lockers. No problem.
But that's a testament to an 80" wheelbase, 49" track width, and sub-2,500 pound curb weight. The more compact a vehicle is, the more options for placing it on the trail one has, so the more options for lines through challenges one can have available to them. When you can keep relatively even ground pressure on all four tires, open differentials drive all four wheels.
When you can't make that happen in a flat-fender Jeep, but can use the brake and accelerator pedal at the same time, you don't need as much tractive force to keep a 2,460 pound vehicle moving as you do to keep a 4,000+ pound vehicle moving.
I had a '73 Bronco on stock suspension with factory front and rear LSD that I never ran a tire taller than 32" on. I had that over the Rubicon and on the nearby Dusy-Ershim Trail many times. It was bigger than a flat-fender Jeep, having a longer 92" wheelbase and weighing right at 3,500 pounds. With bigger tires and traction-aiding differentials, it really wouldn't go anywhere a bone stock flat-fender couldn't.
The last time I did the Rubicon, I did it in a four-banger ragtop TJ weighing 3,250 pounds. I had rear LSD and ran 31" tires on it. No aftermarket lift. No lockers. No massive rubber. No problem.
I think one of the reasons why youngsters today think you have to have selectable lockers front and rear and 35" or larger tires in order to negotiate anything tougher than a graded dirt fire road is because of the size and weight of the newer vehicles they run, coupled with a lack of first-hand experience regarding what a bone-stock flat-fender Jeep is really capable of doing as a byproduct of its compact size and light weight.
In sum, the bigger a vehicle is, the less options one has for placement on the trail in relation to the obstacles presented and the heavier it is, the more tractive force it takes to keep it moving. So, the bigger and heavier a vehicle is, the more "necessary" lockers and massive rubber become.
One thing the JL Wrangler convinced me of is that I don't want or need something that big and heavy to run trails with and the New Bronco is even bigger and heavier than that.
@@cherch I think your assessment of the Bronco Sport as being direct competition for the current Cherokee is spot on.
I know people who have bought them and as a result, I have had the chance to drive them on the street and in the dirt.
My general impression is it's better off-pavement than it has any apparent right to be.
One of the people I know who bought one is a quail hunting buddy of mine out in California and he reports that he's been out to our quail hunting spots in the BLM Jawbone Canyon area, at Opal Mountain, and on the desert slope of the San Bernardino Range. Mostly, he's been favorably impressed with how well it works in the dirt.
He's had his Bronco Sport on more "rugged" terrain than my friends in my home state have.
He reports that he thinks he found the limit of Bronco Sport capability in the form of designated route 3N17 in Southern California's San Bernardino National Forest. He still made it to our chukar spot on White Mountain, though. He said it just wasn't too happy about getting him there, as the steep, rocky climb exposes the handicap of the 20:1 crawl ratio.
I mention that particular route because it's a little more technical than I'd want to do in a Bronco Sport after driving one myself in the dirt and because there's RUclips video out there of this trail and what it's like, if you're interested in seeing what the limit of Bronco Sport capability might be.
There's a whole lot of off-pavement driving that an off-road trim Bronco Sport could not just handle, but handle pretty well. I'm thinking here of faster, relatively flat high-desert type terrain where the suspension setup and relatively high crawl ratio aren't a huge handicap.
For people like my California quail hunting buddy, trading off rock-crawling capability the Bronco Sport doesn't have for the civilized ride on the kind of desert terrain it appears to handle well is a worthwhile trade.
For what it is, I think it's one of the better vehicles of its type out there.
OK, that sway bar disconnect while under load was really impressive. Also impressive just how much articulation that IFS offers. Well-designed by Ford!
As ever, thank you TFL for your highly informative and entertaining reviews. You guys are doing awesome work.
Right! Meanwhile the new Defender has zero suspension travel or articulation. I bet it would lift a wheel driving over a speed bump in a mall parking lot if you crossed it at an angle while in offroad height. This is indeed very impressive front wheel articulation. Especially considering its and independent front suspension! Well done Ford.
how much is it going to cost to have that added though, i dont want all the crap that comes in the big fullsize i just want the sasquach package and that sway bar disconnnect
I’d like to see a rubicon go over the flex bumps. I bet all 4 tires stay on the ground with the swaybar disconnect
The articulation comes mainly from the solid rear axle. The IFS itself really isn’t any more flex than a Tacoma with no sway bar
@@AustinH7 that is true, but its better than the defender which has zero articulation and looks like a skateboard offroading. That thing lifts wheels on the tiniest obstacles. It has zero downward travel!
Pretty sweet rig! Can’t wait to be disappointed seeing these with big wheels and low-pro knobbies cruising around LA ugh 😑
I think that look is hideous and I see it all over here in the NW. To each their own, I personally think it looks ridiculous. Especially when they're offset out of the wheels wells several inches. I think this new bronco has a great stock look to it.
Don't forget 14" wide too
@@ourtime-downhere6931 It doesn't just look ridiculous, it's totally anti-functional in every way.
@@mrpoizun exactly, yet when it snows they're the first dip shits to blow by you at 70mph. I can't count how many times I've seen these living after births flipped in the ditch as soon as the ice and snow hits.
@@mrpoizun ALL the big names in offroading are using 20" wheels and 37"+ tire sizes so obviously you don't have a clue. I'm guessing the most offroading you do is on a dirt road and probably lucky if it's even a 4x4 😂
Outstanding video. The example of the sway bar disconnect in action was really cool to see. Being able to use lockers independently, in high range, and so easily was really impressive. Thanks for the informative video
I'm really happy you chose the 2-door!
yep. A 4-door Bronco is like a 4-door Mustang.
You mean you're really glad he chose the BRONCO. I refuse to acknowledge that a 4 door is a bronco.
I love how everyone's bagging the 4 door but I bet they'll sell way more of them!
I am enjoying the 2-door content. I've been a 2-door Wrangler owner for two decades and if I ever did get a Bronco it would be the 2-door.
@@Jamieandrew1156 The more they sell the more I bag. If you want a 4 door get a sport
As a previous Bronco owner, looks good! Can't wait to see what the Bronco Raptor will be like!
It will be like a Warthog.
That would be nice. A V8 would be awesome!
@@ivangpavlovic5721 I don't expect Ford to put any V8 engine in the Bronco. They'll probably put the Explorer ST's engine or force the current Raptor's engine under that hood.
@@damilolaakanni Ya Ford is prepared to die on this Ecoboost hill, the Coyote's days are nearing the end.
@@mechmat12345 zackly
Enjoyable review. I live in Los Angles, CA. Traffic and highways are my life. Off-Road is my joy. I ride motorcycles and the "getting there" vs. "once you are there" debate has been THE issue in the "Adventure Bike" segment for years. I have a 2015 Jeep Rubicon and 2012 Ford Raptor. I have a Badlands / Sasquatch 2 door on order. It can't come soon enough. I have pumped thousands into the Jeep simply to drive it. I have paid for an alignment or 2 on the Raptor. Truth be known, I don't know how the Wrangler would perform "off road" because with the death wobble I endure (and have endured in 3 consecutive Jeeps) I would never take it to off-road sites because you need to get there to find out.
My 17 year old son howled with delight last weekend hitting 110 mph off-road in after driving up a 45% + degree hill in the 2012 150,000 Mile Plus Raptor. The 2015 Rubicon with 40K mile was at home. He hates driving that POS down the street.
MEN. Hear my words. When I go to 4 wheels I drive my 2012 Raptor. The 2015 "Rubicon" is my wife's car. Her 2015 low-mileage Rubicon is of little value. My 2012 Raptor is still worth good money. BUT I am replacing HER car because "her" Jeep is a POS my wife and I both know to be inferior to the older Raptor I drive.
If you don't understand that a WIDE BODIED truck like a Raptor should NEVER compete in all-purpose off-road situations with a dedicated off-road vehicle I got nothin' for you.
The Jeep has been dead for years. My Raptor says "trust Ford." I did.
I can't wait.
Customers: Jeep… we want a wrangler with a V8, more off-road goodies, etc.
Jeep: it can’t be done.
Ford: here ya go guys. The new bronco. Everything you wanted and how ever you want it.
Jeep: Great news people! We just thought of a great idea: why not put a V8, more off-road goodies, and whatever “etc” means. It just came to us in our sleep.
I really tried to find ways to knock the Bronco since I’m not a Ford fan due to last vehicles being money pits, but this thing is really growing on me
Fords from the mid 90s threw 2016ish were JUNK. But the new CEO (Jim Hackett) and head engineers said enough is enough and are no every active in improving their reliability. No more cost cutting when it comes to the drivetrain.
Vs say like Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Kia, and Jeep that just point the finger at everyone else for any issues they have.
@@devinbender8428 Ford might well have made a bunch of junk during the time frame you outlined, but my 2002 Mustang on my driveway as I type this would argue against being labeled "junk" if it had the capacity to do so. It's been daily driven and thrashed on autocross courses and club track days from new and at 107,000 miles, and getting on 20 years old, I haven't come close to wearing the new off it yet. It has been exceptionally reliable, needing only replacement of wear items like tires, brake pads and windshield wipes along with oil and filter changes.
I don't need a new one precisely because I haven't worn the new off this one yet and its just a much grin-inducing fun now as it was when new.
@John Doyle: I've got a list of things I don't like about this New Bronco, starting with its size and weight, and moving down to things like an electronically-shifted transfer case in lieu of a mechanical shifter, and a bunch of other things new vehicles have that I'm not a fan of, like drive-by-wire throttle control, electric power steering, electric e-brake, and TIPM-type chassis electrical architecture, along with LCD "gauges" instead of analog type, and touch-screen "infotainment."
I could overlook some of my gripes if I liked the way it looked, but it looks too much like a cartoon version of Scout 80 to me to get seriously enthused about the styling.
I'm leaning toward buying one, but for my automatic-transmission hating wife to drive to work in. So if we do get one, it'll be a base model with a manual transmission. It should have enough four-wheel drive capability to handle snow days and that's all my wife needs it to do.
I'm not under some illusion that any version of this New Bronco would do something on the trail that I couldn't get done by building a CJ-2A in a ground-up resto-mod, or some other piece of old iron, for that matter.
@@jerroldshelton9367 oh absolutely! There were a few good models in there. Most f150s, most mustangs and all Panther body’s. But things like the Focus fusion and Taurus definitely had their growing pains.
Simple truth is they couldn’t compete with Japan in terms of build quality vs price. Sure they could make a better vehicle but not for as cheap.
But I just hope it’s not too little to late for some people. I know quite a few people that are on the “never again ford” train because of issues hey have had.
And how do you know the Bronco isn’t a POS?
The Bronco looks like a great vehicle and I am happy that Jeep finally has some competition. I hope the one place Jeep responds is in price. Ford has priced the Bronco very aggressively. I won't be trading in my JK though. It's not a Rubicon but it is super capable (it's been built out a bit) and does everything I need it to do.
I could be wrong, but the Rubicon seems to now have the 8.4” screen and LED lights standard. It’s a start.
How reliable are those Jeeps
@@jovaniortiz8317 My JL Rubicon is doing great, no issues!
Jeep just needs to put a rear locker in a few other models & they're good
@@piemar97 I asked because my neighbor has a JK that gave him a lot of annoying electrical problems
Tommy and Andre did a fantastic job giving OBJECTIVE reviews all week with Roman saying, “hold my beer”.
Thankfully we did not have to sit through another Roman bashing Ford video.
Roman bashes every car maker. GM, Toyota, Ford, Ram etc. Don't be a Ford fanboy.
@@richfarfugnuven6308
I am not any fanboy Rich. I call it like I see it, he is not perfect and not always objective. Take both Jeep and Ford to Moab and let the vehicles do what they do bash away.
@@willriley1262 agreed on the Moab part. He does however always point out the crappy seats in the Gladiator. The crappy defroster as well. He always points out the antiquated interior and engines in the Toyota as well as the old interiors and crappy info-tainment system in the GMC/Chevy HD trucks. I think he is just trying to not be a fanboy for anyone. Don't forget he loves the Cummins in the Ram and pointed out the crappy interiors until they updated and also aired the part on TFL offroad where they snapped the front driveline in the Ram Rebel and said it was unacceptable. He bashes all equally in my opinion...
@@richfarfugnuven6308 Roman has a well known and admitted bias for Jeep
I love seeing American car companies make it easy to be proud of them, feels like American car makers are back, which no matter what you like is good for everyone.
The thing is you can get a base bronco add the Sasquatch pack and you got a badass off-roader. I’m willing to bet you’re gonna pay a very pretty penny for that “rubicon+” model.
Odds are close to $60k for the Rubicon Recon. Vs $42,000 for a Base Bronco 4 door Sasquatch
I already have a 2015 JKU Rubicon with 34 ko2s and a1.5" level lift. I look forward to adding the Bronco to the stable.
Finally someone other than Ford employees driving their vehicle !!
finally something to make jeep respond and be innovative
Chrysler/RAM/Jeep (Stellantis, I know) is the most innovative car company ever. They don't really need competitors for them to come up with new ideas. They do that by default. Still, I will agree that competition is never a bad thing.
According to 4wheeler magizine the JLUR scored a 693 with sway bar disengaged on a 20 degree ramp. And the bronco 4 door scores a 700, which we don’t know what degree. But the biggest thing that helps the wrangler is the easability to maximize that number with mods. Take MC lifts, with their game changer 3.5” lift and running OME shocks they report a 982 on a 20 degree ramp and that lift requires no control arm relocation. Straight bolt in application. Obviously alittle pricy, but with an IFS it’s had to gain that travel without widening the front. Obviously a small lift can go one, but now we have to worry about the cv angles and what limits they have. I’m really curious how the aftermarket community is going to mod out the bronco to really make it competitive against the wrangler where it counts. But no doubt the bronco will kick ass in the speed and desert setting. Can’t wait for these to come out and get that bug year pass so I can make my decision to get this or just another wrangler.
Sasquatch package ads 0.5” aftermarket already has 2.0” lift on top of that. So 2.5” that should give a very similar RTI
Can’t even imagine wanting a JEEP with this thing available. Maybe over time when this gets older, but right now this thing is very cool
Are you serious or just joking?
@@guardrail2897 donut
@@n300zx931 What does donut mean?
'conserving the grounds here'.....until we hop into the Raptor
Lol 😆 🤣
You can conserve the ground by spending as much time airborne as possible in the Raptor 😂
The full sized Bronco from the side looks a lot like the old IH Scout.
ok boomer
Yeah it does
Kind of does, I like it
@@mechmat12345 1) you know what an IH Scout is… 2) You saw it too
Completely agree.
About the weight. Like Boris the Blade said: Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable.
Que his theme music
Heavy is bad for sand and mud ...
If it does not work you can always hit him with it.
I don’t know if that’s the case on this one lol
😂👌🏻
I love all of this off-road capability competition because we are getting so many new, cool trim levels and models.
@Okielawman Price wise maybe, but this thing can actually handle off-road just like the Jeep Wrangler.
Excellent video! I've had a Jeep and they are great, but this looks like a much more comfortable option as a daily driver. Regardless, this will push both the Bronco and Jeep brands to build even more capable and bada$$ vehicles. Keep up the good work guys!
Until the vaginas that run the companies decide to stop making internal combustion vehicles.
Talking about the head toss in a Jeep as they are rocked back and forth while claiming "lateral stability". Classic.
the yellow 2-door is my new attainable dream car
That new bronco is awesome and this is just the first iteration of it. It will only improve for the years to come 👍
Only if it gets a V8
Would actually love to see the guy in the passenger seat with the glasses take over. I love his info and delivery throughout the entire video.
I do believe Jeep’s jamboree showed the capability with obstacles that were very challenging a couple of years. TFL REMEMBERS... THIS course that Ford set up should be called Driving Miss Daisy thru the Texas cute landscape.
This trail was a complete joke. Aside from those articulation mounds, a Honda CR-V could’ve done it blindfolded
I’m actually really impressed, and I did NOT think I was going to be.
How do they accurately measure water fording ability to the 10th of an inch? They just made that crap up. So at 33.5 inches the Bronco is all good at 33.6 inches you better call a tow truck or make sure you have a wench.
It’s primarily based on “what features can’t get wet” then measure from that point to ground.
But every manufacturer does it differently and measures them different. Just like BOA and clearance.
So yes virtually tied
The diff breather locations
@@dirtsailoroff-road5580 Mine in my jeep are in the frame rails and i still waterproof over the hood with a snorkel. The only thing i’ve ran was airbox snorkel.
Better hope the water stays as flat as glass 😆
@@cablenowadays6586 I have an 07 Rubicon. I want the river raider relocation kit. It moves it to the air box. But in all reality, if it gets above your hood, even with a water tight snorkel you're screwed.
"It's huge! It's related to the Ranger"
My 78 Bronco " Am I a joke to you?"
Also...
My '79 Bronco to you too.....
Considering the ranger is probably as big as a 78 through 90s pick up that would make the bronco probably damn near about the same size as your old clunker bronco
@@robertchapman4488 '78 & '79 Bronco was built off the F-150...
Bronco II was built off the ranger...
So unless today's Ranger is the same size as that era F-150 I highly doubt it..
@@gregorynofsker7554 looking at the dimensions online, the new ranger is pretty much the same if not slightly larger than the late 70s F150
@@Black-Villain www.google.com/search?q=1979+bronco+dimensions+vs+new&prmd=isvn&sxsrf=ALeKk00JGNzm8T1XmcWAEREMezaqozQowQ:1624914440238&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjstICAnrvxAhUTK80KHSdFB7MQ_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=360&bih=520&dpr=4#imgrc=NPaQo8PoVR0zoM
At ~1:02 when TFL Tommy says the following: "... we're here to give our detailed impressions of the 2021 Bronco ..." André's big silly smile already tells me all that I need to know without having to watch the rest of the video 😁😆🤣🤣🤣
Wow, It looks amazing and very capable, I need one!!!
Trail Turn Assist is an awesome feature! It's like driving a tractor with cutting brakes!
Or a 60 year old Baja Bug. Lol
This could have been GM with the Blazer but nooooooo, they had to cheap out on a crossover *facepalm*
Yeah,gm really needs to get their act together.nothing but terrible decisions lately.financially,its even worse imo
@@andromeda9340 Ever since the 08 Bailout, its been one bad decision after another , I should know, I used to work for them lol
@@yournotalexander biggest red flag is them killing off and even downsizing their iconic cars such as the blazer,impala,etc.ouch.
The Blazer was a success in terms of sales tho, so don’t expect and actual blazer anytime soon.
Government Motors
about time! I had to suffer through your competitors videos all morning till you got this uploaded. great work!
I've never liked Fords and never liked Chryslers, but the Jeep is a heck of a lot of fun. I just rented one for a week in CO and had a blast on stock tires/rims. I can only imagine how much fun I would have had with a slightly modded Jeep.
Nice job Ford. I'm excited to drive one of these.
All very impressive on a designed and landscaped course. Soo impressed seeing how the spacing of the bumps were juuust right for those camera angles.
The Cartels are going to love this vehicle.
Smoking to think they'd be cool with a 4 cylinder on 35's. When life/ death is on the line you're getting something with power.
Nah , there's no place to mount the machine gun
@@TheRandompaint lol they’ll make aftermarket mounts hahaha
No they drive Toyota trucks they cant risk their vehicles breaking down.
Great job guys finally an honest review! Only review I've watched so far that doesn't feel like its sponsored by ford. It looks like a great vehicle cant wait to see when you drive it in Colorado.
I can’t stop staring at that tie rod and how tiny it is.
99% are going to be city dwellers and they know it...
There’s also the shock mount bolts that are just asking to be smashed on a rock.
@@thomasc5687 yeah it’s less than ideal definitely although it’s similar to the axle over leaf situation on a YJ Jeep.
@@thomasc5687 i dont believe that are shock mount bolts since it’s a eyelet shock from the looks. I’m really excited to see after market lift kits. Bigger control arms, Bigger tire rods, longer shocks, and FORTIES. Can’t wait to see someone shove 40s under their jeep and a front solid axle swap because i know someone will do it like they did in the ranger.
@@georgejulien3286 Certianly. Curious to see how the aftermarket fixes this.
thank you guys for all your hard work. As much as I loved my "First Gen" Raptor, and my last 2 F250s ( All "work" Trucks btw) I'm still not sold on this new Bronco....... All these new electric bells and whistles are cool in all but what made the Bronco so great before was its simplicity and toughness. Back then it was truly more then just competition for the Wrangler. Hope all these new fancy tricks can stand up to years of abuse and still work just as good.
As a Jeep owner I’m really impressed with this bronco. I’m not in the market for a new vehicle but when I am I’ll definitely give the bronco a glance. Great video
The problem with jeep coming back at ford like that is that their pricing on the packages is not competitive at all.
How so? The 35s are only a $3500 option.
@@coloradomallcrawlers yeah on there highest trim tho
you are higher than a kite if you think dealers will be charging msrp for the bronco. i would not be surprised to see these going for 70-$80k
@@MrTxblksteel Sasquatch is available on all trims though. Don’t have to buy Rubicon to get everything.
@@blackonefifty yes I know I was referring to jeeps new trim
I like the Bronco’s looks way better than the Jeep. There I said it.
I'm glad I was able to do this course, I was in love with the whole set up. Either I'm a natural off roader with my small amount of experience. Or this vehicle makes you great.
I cant wait for the Bronco to showcase what stock IFS can offer the offroad world, not just for high speed rough terrain, but slow technical trails. The RTI on this is excellent!
FYI, for TFL. Pretty sure the "17%" improvement was for wheel travel, not specifically articulation. The Wrangler still can articulate a bit more (barely) but has less outright wheel travel which is very important for rough terrain in general.
Independent front locker is a huge bonus. Rear locker in 2Hi is also badass. I want one of these so bad. I wish they would allow for tech and luxury options with the manual transmission. The lack of upgrades available if you want a manual is a huge disappointment.
You can get the lux package with manual in the Badlands.
@@mechmat12345, I just now figured that out when I built one on my laptop. I was trying to build one on my phone a few days ago and it wouldn't allow it. Not sure if it was just a glitch or if they changed it in the last few days. I also tried to build a black diamond trim level first and I think I just assumed that the restrictions there carried on through the other trim levels. Now if they would just allow the sasquatch package for the manual.
"It's big, it's huge"
"It's based on the Ranger"
O.o
It looks as though it may be similar to the Ranger frame but possibly wider? It could just be an illusion though due to how short the Bronco is, and how big the 35s are with those fender flares and -ve offset. Gorgeous truck.
Have you seen the Ranger? It's as big as F-150's from the late 90's and early 2000's.
New rangers are the size of f150s from the early 00s
@@imcrazyforwar not true. A 2000 Ford F-150 is 79.5” wide, and a 2021 Ford Ranger is 73.25” wide.
The Bronco is the same size as the wrangler
I'd much rather pay 47k and spend money to upgrade the crap out of the Bronco than pay 60 to 70k for a stock Jeep. It looks promising. Only the trails will tell! Thank God for competition!
Tommy was so excited to draw out and announce the jeep rubicon “plus” haha. Fanboy def
Alright I thought that turn assist was going to be a gimmick but uh, I feel dumb as I was impressed by the application of it. Touché, Ford!
It's pretty fun in sand dunes too! It works great!
Canceled my Bronco reservation a couple of days ago. Heavily considering a Jeep Wrangler 2 door Willys Sport very similar to Tom’s that he recently made a video about. They just seem like such a better and definitely more affordable option. Like he said in his video: “everything you need, and nothing you don’t”
“We’re trying to conserve the trails”
Your trail turn assist literally digs out the trails
Every Bronco video: The new Ford Bronco outperforms the stock Jeep in every category!
Every Jeep owner: What does "stock" mean?
Straight up!. First mods to my 2 door sport: $250 got me quick disconnects for the sway bar & a rubicon recon take off suspension that gave me almost a 2" lift.
Yep, that's why these are exponentially better than a Wrangler instead of marginally. No mods required.
The wrangler looks old af now. The Bronco looks retro futuristic it looks way better IMO. Wrangler has had the same looks for decades.
@@angelgjr1999 Well it's had the same general appearance for over half a century. That just goes to show how they hold their value so well. People like how they look.
@@SanctumOfDreams no they’ve held their value bc the off road abilities and now the Bronco will actually cut into the Wrangler resell market I feel
Just something about the look of the Bronco I can't get into, I feel like the Wrangler looks better all around, but performance wise it seems like either will do the same as the other depending on the package you spring for.
See I’m the opposite, I like the looks of the bronco but not the wrangler.
I'm a toyota guy but this is very very impressive. If it holds up over time, this will force Jeep and Toyota to innovate.
Dash cam are more important than sun roofs.
They should come as standard fitment from the automobile manufacturer.
I agree but I would rather just get a good aftermarket one for cheaper than what a cheap automaker one
Hope you don't take this wrong, but the obstacles at the event look at least as difficult as any we ever see you attempt in Colorado for sure, and maybe even at moab. Again, not being critical, I think the terrain on which you typically focus is way more appropriate for most viewers than extreme off roading seen on some channels. I just don't see where getting it on your home turf is going to test to a higher level, unless you are upping the ante for bronco.
they are not going to have an extreme course for a bunch of car reporters who have no idea how to drive off pavement. tfl is more the exception than the rule
Jeep does
Even if it doesn’t do better I think the interior is better and I like how the Broncos look over just a jeep that’s stock
Love that boxy looks. Definitely better looking than Rubicons and defenders
Jeeps response is great, but the truck will be like 78k, which to me, someone who would be shopping in the 40-50 range, wouldn’t even consider jeeps answer to the bronco. It needs to be in the same price point to make sense.
This Bronco looks like a proper offroad and makes more sense than a Chinese Land/Rangerover
I wish they still made the Toyota FJ Cruiser that was my favourite.
Land Rover is half Indian ;) (owned by TATA). But yeah, Wrangler ftw for me
The landrover defender is a good off roader and it have the best awd terrain and wheel spin control which no off road brand have as good awd system as landrover for off roading but for me its a hard choice between the bronco or the wrangler
Ford guy: we dont push our vehicles.
4wd action: hold my steering arm, bearings, and some CVs
@Bumble Blimfield it's a clutch system so it will disconnect if the torque is too high.
@Bumble Blimfield thats GM with the ZR2s
@Bumble Blimfield We'll see, doubt Ford half assed the CVs on the Bronco
Yeah. I foresee bent tie rods and broken CV’s. Especially for those thinking they are going slap a lift and 37’s on.
Good. Jeep has been fleecing us long enough!! The two door comes with two extra doors evidently.
At least Jeep offers a 392
@@davisstephens8405 Yes they offer a way over priced 392 good point. It comes with jeeps tradition of making one of the least reliable vehicle lists for the past 40 years. I am sure though that now with the help of peugeot, fiat, alpha and the rest of the ultra high quality stellantis group things will only improve.
The exhaust mufflers were already banged up :( thank you so much for this video. Very comprehensive, learned a ton
I think Ford did a great job tapping into the first gen Bronco retro look. As a Jeep guy I have always like the old Bronco's and Scouts, so this is a welcomed addition to todays off road trucks. I own a Gladiator because I need a truck someday if they do a Bronco truck I may go there.
Two areas I would have liked to see would have been a 5.0 option (But those old 302 badges on) and a solid axel front end.
Full size Bronco's stopped being produced in the 90s, this is a mid-sized Bronco based on the mid-sized Ranger.
Everyone knows that. But in this generation, this one is considered the “full size.”
On you mean that in power junk
The ranger is as big as any truck from the '90s era back so that would probably put a pretty close to the same size as the 90s broncos.
1000% Fantastic off road machine! Extremely excellent explanations of what all the features do! Camera angles were great. Audio was superb. Editing is top notch. Makes me want 1 of these. Best Monday video ever!
"The problem with a jeep with 2 solid axles is you get a lot of head toss" ...... gets tossed around 2 seconds later lol
Grifters for Ford
I'm actually glad the bronco is here and that jeep does have competition and I'm a die hard Jeep dude. This will finally make Jeep get off their butts and change some stuff.
I'm not reading all the comments, so sure this has been mentioned. The TPS light is on. Presumably, because they lowered the tire air pressure for traction and a softer ride.
Ford asked Wrangler owners what do you hate about your jeep and fixed it with the Bronco
Is it actually safe to drive in the highway? Jeeps have a tendency to flip over.
More likely, it has a wider wheel base
I'm a wrangler owner and I like what i see there. However I really question those control arms. They look like they will get murdered once they start hitting rocks. I'll be interested to see how they hold up on the rocks.
With the front shock mount bolts hanging 2" under them, not long
That was so ovious when they showed it. It looks weak. It should be flat underneath for rock sliding I reckon.
Aluminum lower control arms with a downward exposed bolt and no protection -> this seems like a pretty poor design for an off-roader. My 4runner control arms are solid steel and beat up pretty bad from hitting rocks.
Aluminum is hell of a lot strong that it was 10 years ago.
One rock bash and its a $500 replacement.
Good point. That bolt is going to get destroyed.
Quit hitting the rocks.
4runner. Lol. Your out of your league. Go back to the Taco site
I love how Ford is trolling jeep 😂 funniest thing
As someone who has owned vehicles for more decades than I'd like to admit, I see tons of switches and sensors and over-the-top electronic aids here - not to mention, the turbocharging system - to malfunction at some point, and (once out-of-warranty) cost a lot of money to troubleshoot and repair. I prefer mechanical simplicity.
mpg isnt great but they have 4.7 and 4.9 rear ends on 35s. I mean... I also think Jeep's response is hollow at best. Lets see them offer locking dana 44s and 35s on all trims like the Bronco.
Very true
Locking 44s is what makes a rubicon bit they aren't even true dana 44s because the only difference is the pumpkin with a bigger ring gear. The rest of the Axel and c's are exactly like the 30 its a scam.
F is killing it lately. I love these guys, fun group for sure.
Ford has been hitting it out of the park lately with the F150 Lightning and now this final form of the Bronco with its useful offroad features.
Lol. Man, these comments. I think the Jeep Fan Boys are a bit defensive.
Seriously. Ford did an amazing job with the Bronco.
Let's not forget about the very capable and off-road-worthy Chevrolet Blazer...oh, wait. Never mind. Lol.
Having options is great. It will be fun watching things escalate.
This Bronco is not only extremely capable, but it looks way better than a Wrangler and the option packages are better. This Bronco is a winner.
With that IFS and the goat mode select terrain bits it seems more like competition for the grand cherokee trailhawk rather than a wrangler rubicon.
Great job, guys! The Bronco really does look cool. You can definitely see heritage in the body lines from the original one. 😀
Rubicon “Xtreme” is too little too late and makes it look like Jeep’s panicking. We’ll see how they really intend on taking on the Bronco with the JL mid-cycle refresh
Glad to see the Bronco and Wrangler go toe-to-toe. It will improve the offerings and expand the segment. Another great review by TFL.
In my opinion. A front locker and rear limited slip is all you need. That's what I have in my wrangler and it goes anywhere the fully locked jeeps go