I’ve had a teacher who followed this. She wasn’t strict, but she was firm and would always put us in our place. But she was also genuine and wanted us to do our best. She made me motivated to try in my humanities class and honestly I feel like this should be taught to teachers. Because this is actually so applicable to literally every teacher I can think of.
The issue is the students aren’t all like you. It’s harder to do this sort of thing on kids too because of where they are in development as a person. Now when it comes to collaborative spaces as adults (like school and work) then yeah, this could be better applied.
@@KidKingdomHearts That's true, the teachers are not bosses and can't fire anyone. So, they have to put up with some a...holes. The other way to think of this is that yeah, the kid that's just told the teacher to "f... off" to her face is not an a...hole but is in a certain stage of "development as a person" lmao. Good luck being a teacher these days!
I had a German political psychology who did the same and achieved the same. I ended up liking her and chose her as my master thesis supervisor. You knew she was serious but never cruel and that she cared.
That's very cool and there is some merit to it but people need to stop treating everything As if it were some sort of kingdom and looking at humans as statistics of people who are likely to get out of control Oftentimes these teachers and other people need to be put in place and kept in check
@@carlrodalegrado4104 I rather show respect over fear. Respect feels so good man especially seeing someone else with respect and integrity. Makes you love them and not want to get them upset.
@@thebluerock6048 yeah normally that's the right answer but when it comes to politics or people in the higher status of power the power struggle recommends you to show fear more to secure your power being a nice guy won't make you last long in a den of wolves and lions.
"When the Master governs, the people are hardly aware that he exists. Next best is a leader who is loved. Next, one who is feared. The worst is one who is despised. If you don't trust the people, you make them untrustworthy. The Master doesn't talk, he acts. When his work is done, the people say, 'Amazing: we did it, all by ourselves!'" Lou Tzu
I have worked for both types of bosses. The one who punishes too much and rewards too little and the one who rewards too much and punishes too little. I agree that the results for being these types of leaders are not being respected and being hated. As will all things in life it is trying to find the balance between the two and doing it effectively that makes it challenging but worth it to be a great leader. Thank you for sharing.
@@uncleusuh its said that when pac was in prison he studied / picked up a book of machiavelli and specifically his takes on war tactics. caught that in some interview.
Uhh also, Machiavellis death was surrounded in mystery, no one knows where he was buried, or even when he died. Tupac's death was surrounded in mystery, due to many lyrics he wrote basically predicting details about his death. There's more, but I'm not getting into it rn
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Overthinking isn't always a bad thing. I think even worse than overthinking is to tell yourself that your thoughts cannot be trusted. Overthinking can be just the mind trying to find a solution that isn't presenting itself right now. There is no one best way to deal with this, but trying to think and act logically and methodically can help. Cognitive Behaviour Therapy is a really good tool for a lot of people and I think the principles of it should be taught in school, from even a very young age. But there are other things like trying to gain a different perspective through either studying philosophy, wisdom, spirituality or even religious thought (some religious thought can cause problems but mucg religious thought also can help with problems, but that goes with philosophy too). Other things like taking steps to get your life in order, getting into routine, getting better sleep if it is something you can improve, being social, getting good and stimulating exercise, reducing screen time, etc can really help. But true meditative practices, and the sense of practicing oneness can greatly help you regain your compass in life too.
I think this is really good. Morality comes down to treating people according to the efforts/outcomes of their work. If everyone is treated “equal” regardless of what they do, it pushes down those who work hard and elevates the lazy
My little brother is very entitled. To the point that he won't even get a glass of water himself. And i always let it slide. But he's 18 now. I'm going to start implementing these tips
You are a bit late and probably spoiled him too much already...But try it as fast as possible...I without knowing used this kind of things as it seemed logical to me..Now my 3 siblings only listens/fear/care to what I say...And does what I say most of the times...They Doesn't listen much to my mom and dad as they were too soft and lost respect....
Wow, your content is amazing! I was working on a Niccolo Machiavelli's quotes video and this video reminds me of this quote: "It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both." -Niccolo Machiavelli Thanks for making and sharing wonderful content 💛
Excellently put. As someone who has been a leader and employer for three decades, I wholeheartedly agree. I have trusted people, but only as far as I required. And they almost ALWAYS overestimated how much I required them. If they became complacent or too comfortable, I'd knock them down from their illusory pedestals. At that point, it was easy to determine who was there for their fragile ego and who actually wanted to achieve a TEAM GOAL that exceeded anything they could produce individually. 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨
if i could give this video 1m likes i would. I learnt this philosophy in the hard way, i'm a class prefect (in Kenya) and as class prefects we do alot of work and even teachers depend on us when it comes to punishment for the students. I wish i knew this earlier.
I reckon these are one of those things that make sense theoretically but difficult to implement practically. How does one measure rewards and punishment? Everyone has perceived value towards anything in life. For example, let's say that someone is sent to detention. One person could see it as a bad thing since they want to do something else (punish). Another could see it as time to get some peace, quiet and solidarity - which is something they prefer (reward).
Actually that is not the case.Mainly It's about treating everyone equally. It's not a very big deal if one person prefers the punishment that another person hates. If the whole group / team / society can see that the leader treats everyone equally, then they fear the leader.Because even if someone loves the punishment personally, still they fear the punishment because they know that other people see it as a punishment. So they don't like it since the punishment causes a damage to their reputation/self respect.
Most societies will have a universal framework to draw upon. Especially when they're specific to that situation or setting only. In school, if you're a teacher, reward those who do their homework well and achieve certain satisfactory grade. Reward those who also made an honest attempt and offer solutions or more whilst teaching the next bit of the syllabus. Punish those who didn't attempt to at all. Either tell the parents it wasn't completed, or simply detention. The difficult thing, which you were saying is applying these rewards and punishments at the right levels to each individual. Based on society, some may see detention as a good thing, and some may see staying over time on weekends as good also. But universally it's still accepted by society these are not ideal circumstances. For any leader, don't think of how can I punish Nancy or Joe or who. Think what is considered an acceptable minimum my employee must do, and what is the max threshold for those to in turn receive a reward. Although your employees are individuals, it's best you treat them as a statistic or even more cynical a product so you can judge each product evenly through comparison. But then, extreme biases still exist when selecting products.
I think you are asking the wrong question. You are looking at this far too academically. Macchiaveli did not deal with the academic so much as he dealt with the law of the jungle. A good leader or indeed a good person is someone who has strong values. Integrity must be one of those values. If the person on the receiving end of such a person sees that they are being dealt with albeit imperfectly, but at the same time with a sense of integrity, justice and fairness, and overall respect for their humanity, they will far more likely appreciate the way they are being treated, even if they are being treated far from perfectly.
I think it's a good baseline way to go about leadership. A sort of blanket for all subordinates treated equally with proportional punishment and reward. But on an individual level person to person, say if you're leading only one person, it should be more based on that persons personality, drive, etc
I wouldnt say that respect comes from fear. I would say that it comes from love and consideration that we have for another person or group of people and UNDERSTANDING for their boundaries. And consiquences that arise if those boundaries get crossed.
@@lemurlover7975 But in order to respect your boundaries they must know what will happen then. And that's where fair plays an important role, you must be able to have something if you don't want them to control you still.
*Rule 1* : "They fear u but they don't hate u." = It's very imp to properly reward someone when they do things ryt & equally imp to punish someone when they do wrong. The balance of Reward & Punishment is critical to it.
Funny enough this video came out around the time I was in class. We were introduced to the ideas of the same man you're talking about here! Weird timing but I'm into it. Awesome video!!
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I agree with some other comments, that this idea is great on paper but in the practical real world it is very difficult if not impossible to implement because there are so many factors that go into reward and punishment. Not to mention that some people use other means as an escape to complete work, favoritism, sexist bias, jealousy or attempting to stifle a potential competitor. I've seen it all, from a female coworker who was late almost every single day by some times an hour or more and was never punished for it and many suspected that she was making up for it in a "secretive" way for the floor manager. Meanwhile anyone else who came in just a few minutes late would get a harsh reprimand. It made everyone even those who never came in late resent the co-worker who was chronically late. Lets also not forget favoritism such as a family member of a manager or boss who manages to get special privileges based on being the family member. It causes rifts within the company and breaks any sort of system.
Any type of perfection in anything is impossible. The important thing is that if you keep in mind to try as best as you can to treat people equally, and to while punishing and rewarding them you are careful how much of which you are doing, you are on the horse. Unless you are otherwise completely incompetent, you will be in top 20% easily. Nothing kills the morale like realising that your boss is not fair. Nobody could be completely fair, it is impossible. If you just try to be fair, instead of trying to micromanage others for example, you will have better results. Be it with children, students, those under you in your company, or just with your friends and others who are equal to you and sometimes even above you. You can sneakily punish your boss if he is overpunishing you for example. People are doing it all the time without getting caught. There are so many ways. I have a very good memory, so I remember how in grade school children were more obedient to the fair teachers than even those who were very strict while punishing us. I remember how much better everyone learned under the fair teachers than those who were trying very hard to teach us very well, but had their favourites...
This is the problem with one of my teachers! He never gives credit for homework because nobody does it and never punishes anyone with leads people to accept slacking of.
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It was never true. Beating people with rods, hands, shoes or belts or what have you is going to give them short term and long term (lifelong) trauma and pain. I have PTSD now as a 40 year old because I was beaten as a little kid. Because of it, I get nightmares, seizures and flashbacks. They still had PTSD from child abuse even in the old days when the heartless parents wrote this stupid phrase to justify torturing their kids to make themselves feel better. Now all of them are burning in Hell for torturing their kids. Good riddance. They are not walking the earth anymore to spread ideas of abuse and physically harming kids. Just burning in eternal damnation. :) Same as how all of my abusers will and are.
Well if you look at parenting styles, the best is authoritative. Why would low punishments and high rewards make people fear you? The idea is that everyone can get behind you if they too see this person as a problem. You can't just punish anyone who steps out of line because no one is perfect and people will dislike this tension. You also want to persuade this individual to do better next time. By taking away a reward you are using positive reinforcement without having to up a negative one. Many will view it as fair since the punishment is not severe but still commands fear into the public as something they want has been taken away. It's a way to give second chances and a sense of hope without being permissive of criminals. Instead of sending everyone to jail, just take away their ability to do that specific crime and have them unable to get nice things. This could be done by having a criminal record effect their wage by intentionally letting corporations discriminate for a specific period of time. This makes them learn that whatever the behavior is, it's bad. This also effects their social life. Over time, society will begin to trust them and working hard will give them promotions in the company. The idea is for them to have a way to rehabilitate in the first place by talking with upstanding citizens on their own accord; rather than locking them away for who knows how long. Even murderers deserve a second chance. If you're in the military, murder is praised. My point is that something triggered that response, and maybe it was financial or social. By taking away your standing in both, you discourage other people from looking at it as a viable solution to their problem. Even when the thought occurs, they'll be able to feel like there are other options that work better. People don't see prison, nor do they understand that one mistake could put them in their for months. People do see the real world, and the people who live in it. Segregating a section of your population may not be the answer, or at least not for every crime committed. Sometimes a scolding look is enough to make someone change because they know it's wrong, don't send those people to prison. The community will deal with them if they know that they did something. I think it's only fair that they get treated like everyone else but have a reprimand so that they feel like redemption is possible. It's easy to get stuck in the idea that once you fall you can never get back up. I don't think locking away one-third of our population is a viable answer to crime prevention. People thinking about crimes need to be able to talk to them. They need to be able to learn something from those people so that they don't decide the same fate. Cutting them off with life in prison isn't allowing them to change. You would be surprised what a little forgiveness could do. The world's nations could use a little forgiveness right now.
My mom got looked at and lectured a lot by well-meaning people and police too and never went to jail for her crimes and then because of this she violently tortured me for 3 decades of human trafficking slavery ever since I was a baby and raped other kids too and tortured my sister as a slave and made child porn of kids raping other kids. (I was raped in this situation by my brother who she also raped as a kid.) She killed people and pets and took every drug known to man. She is a violent psycho and a menace to society and belongs in prison. I asked her if she repents and wants to change back in 2012 prior to me disowning her and she said no she likes being this way and also doesn't know how to change and doesn't think she can. She said she is convinced she is headed for Hell no matter what she changes, so why not embrace it and drink my blood and worship Satan. She is also a cannibal who cannibalized me and a fetus I had which got murdered by her and my stepdad when they were raping me. The baby's name was Jaimie. I gave him or her their name so when they go to Heaven they can introduce themselves to the angels. She convinced herself eating a fetus they put in me by rape was going to make the fetus (Jaimie) go to Hell and I then have to go to Hell as well along with the fetus because he or she is mine, because she couldn't stand the thought of her going to Hell and me not being with her, because she wanted to bring her whole family with her when she dies and goes to Hell. She doesn't want to feel alone and she loves that sense of power of bringing everyone into torture and Hell. But I choose Heaven and she does not get to make that choice for me. I am a Christian and Jesus is my Lord and Savior. Not Machiavelli. He's heartless. Jesus loves me.
majority of poor parent are Authoritative, but unreasonable, Punishing their kids super hard for no reason or petty reason, and zero reward at all. because this is the only time where the loser parent got upperhand in life where they're no longer the loser, you're the loser. therefore they treat you like the dumbest idiot on earth so that they can finally win something in life. by wasting your potential, time, and stripping you out of everything, they'll make sure that you keep being an idiot for the rest of your life.
Is fear truly tied to respect in this way? If I fear someone, I simply wish to get away from them. For me, fear is the opposite of respect. I cannot respect someone I fear. And I cannot fear someone I respect.
Everyone has to establish his boundaries in order to communicate what they are willing to accept and what not. This is why you have to be feared in a certain way. Its not about you could be brutal and violent, but firm in your principles and willing to take action if they are not respected. Thats all folks.
I pretty much agree with everything you said but... I can't avoid feeling there's something odd for me. and it's that you cannot make everyone respect you, no matter how much you reward or punish someone, if that someone hates you, it'll do so no matter what you do. The example you've shown was very good, still being respected doesn't actually have to feel like being a leader, when I talk with my friends for example, we respect each other and we treat each others as equals, peacefully solving conflicts if they happen, there's no leader here that we must respect, we all do so for each other.
That's so true-! Friends that respect each other can learn to forgive and resolve conflicts better. Then again, I couldn't help agree with you at the part where "you cannot make everyone respect you once they hate you". Resentments & hatred directed to another party can truly go a long way, sadly. 😟 Sometimes, the hate comes from really dumb reasons too.
Thats because there isn't a hierarchy in your friendships. You are all equal, in the business world you are not. Too many cheifs and not enough Indians you have collapse. Therefore someone that tells you want to do and their job is to give constructive criticism to increase performance, that person will be considered on a different responsibility level than the worker. Leadership is a balance, maintain or increase efficiency while also having the flexibility to work with different peoples temporment and enabling team work and education on a day to day despite the ever changing opinions and demeanor of the worker a leader needs to be consistent and work harder to gain respect.
It is always important to remember to be able to adapt to the different types of people. If you know that arguing would only crack the relationship, it's best to avoid conflict in order to continue a good relationship (as long as it is acceptable of course). Sometimes you will appear dumb, someone who doesn't know how to lie (maybe just because you don't like to) but the real smart ones don't show how smart they are, and lie only when strictly necessary, so they won't be discovered. Remember that conflict only leads to toxicity sometimes. You should get respect because they find you valid not because you should be feared, otherwise you will be annoying. Being firm is ok tho. Just my thoughts.
I am a boy from austria and this helped me a lot!- Thanks for the tips, now I understand the system with punishment and rewards. I also have learned from an other platform that a person should let other lose himself when others dont value
This sounds very sane. Jon Haidt talks a lot about him in one of his books though (I think The Righteous Mind). Is it true that he spoke about the importance of being perceived as good, above that of actually being good, as an evolutionary adaptation? I was under the impression his name as an adjective was synonymous with moral deception and mimicry. Is this something he advocated or just observed? Or am I just way off the mark
He saw no problem in cruelty for example. For him it was a perfectly reasonable thing. Even the one he himself suffered. They tortured him for days, and he later described it as something reasonable. He wrote a book about how deception, cruelty, cunning and manipulation are the important thing in politics, with many examples of why people who failed to use the methods described in the book are far less competent in ruling over others. If you add to it that he had some beliefs that were quite unpopular at the time, for the reason of being way ahead of it, you can see the reason why he would be seen as the devil.
If anyone wants my opinion on this, I say I agree with this philosophy. I want to be a great leader in order to achieve my dream of becoming the boss. I may need to make others respect to do that.
and i love it i wish more videos with examples like these existed. I had so many similar bosses and experiences and this video summed everything i ever thought about in that field.
I agree on a balance and rewars compensatie, however this only seems applicable to leaders. I do not feel lik it's applicable to me in my stage of life.
If you (tried) to read some of his books you know that Machiavellistic strategies shows us (or politics) how to manipulate people - so they do what you need them to do in order to archive your own goals. Which is very egocentric and can be manipulativ :( Not sure if this is worth to internalize. Anyway. The video is very good made. Thanks for that content.
Yeah, it is about manipulation But I think it is nessecary to know, because you are bound to lose any game that you don't know the rules of. Anyone can easily manipulate you if you don't know how to manipulate people
I believe that many people inherently know/feel this. But they get stuck at the how? Like how do they implement this? Because they all face their own individual situation and have different levels of difficulty which could prevent them from establishing this form of leadership.
I believe it is true however when I define respect it's synonym is admiration. That doesn't seem to line up for me. For example at your job if you refuse to work you could get fired. If your treated badly at work you could quit. This balance is what I would call respect.
Hello, I would recommend that give 10 reward of 1 good job in answer to 1 good job ,while give 1 punishment of 1 bad job in return 1 bad job . Also, if he understood really well and took his responsibilities well before punishment , forgive. According to the King of Kings. God satisfie you for video.
I love how paper pushers and middle managers are always reading this material like it's gonna help them rise to the top. You're not going to "I am glitter I am Gold rise up ting ting like glitter and gold" because you're a middle man being used by someone who built the foundation on which you stand. And that's the point. You take orders, get a little power trip by passing them orders on, but you're NOT a leader. If you're having to read Machiavelli to "learn how to get ahead" you're already not the type who is ever going to lead. And second of all the LOW stakes shit that is your Office job at "(North/South) (Western/Eastern) (Medical/Insurance) Center/company" is never going to matter. The point is leaders are SELF MADE and rarely tread in the paths of others and certainly didn't read Machiavelli to finally get the courage to tell their boss "I AM NOT going to do this extra work (if your okay with that Mr. Bossman sir"
What this means: be kind, but don't let people walk all over you. The comment section: ergo, concordantly, visa vi - Fear me, pleb. Your respect, I demand it!
I think that I do agree to machiavelli's Thoughts that people should be treated accordingly to their actions But if we look at more details Every person is different from each other even psychologically Some person take punishment as a sign that the other person hates them coz not everyone realise their mistakes And for some people rewards aren't enough they tend to seek more Machiavelli's laws work greaht at bulk But if one had to be a true leader he will have to treat everyone differently according to their psychology at skim level And will have to treat and see everyone equally at bulk level Those who have brains can understand though what i say is a bit complicated but i hope you get the meaning
At my job, Heroes and Zeros earn the same, the boss will probably let you skate some, but the under performers who do just enough, seem to get the same compensation. This is a government job, so maybe it is what it is.
I’ve had a teacher who followed this. She wasn’t strict, but she was firm and would always put us in our place. But she was also genuine and wanted us to do our best. She made me motivated to try in my humanities class and honestly I feel like this should be taught to teachers. Because this is actually so applicable to literally every teacher I can think of.
The issue is the students aren’t all like you. It’s harder to do this sort of thing on kids too because of where they are in development as a person.
Now when it comes to collaborative spaces as adults (like school and work) then yeah, this could be better applied.
@@KidKingdomHearts That's true, the teachers are not bosses and can't fire anyone. So, they have to put up with some a...holes. The other way to think of this is that yeah, the kid that's just told the teacher to "f... off" to her face is not an a...hole but is in a certain stage of "development as a person" lmao. Good luck being a teacher these days!
It’s a right way to do things
I had a German political psychology who did the same and achieved the same. I ended up liking her and chose her as my master thesis supervisor. You knew she was serious but never cruel and that she cared.
That's very cool and there is some merit to it but people need to stop treating everything As if it were some sort of kingdom and looking at humans as statistics of people who are likely to get out of control
Oftentimes these teachers and other people need to be put in place and kept in check
It's better to be feared than loved if you cannot do both -Niccolo Machiavelli
I want people to fear how much they love me.
-Michael Scott
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@@carlrodalegrado4104 I rather show respect over fear. Respect feels so good man especially seeing someone else with respect and integrity. Makes you love them and not want to get them upset.
@@thebluerock6048 yeah normally that's the right answer but when it comes to politics or people in the higher status of power the power struggle recommends you to show fear more to secure your power being a nice guy won't make you last long in a den of wolves and lions.
No, absolutely not. Love is the main goal of all human relationships. Machiavelli is just a heatless monster.
"When the Master governs, the people are hardly aware that he exists. Next best is a leader who is loved. Next, one who is feared. The worst is one who is despised. If you don't trust the people, you make them untrustworthy. The Master doesn't talk, he acts. When his work is done, the people say, 'Amazing: we did it, all by ourselves!'"
Lou Tzu
I have worked for both types of bosses. The one who punishes too much and rewards too little and the one who rewards too much and punishes too little. I agree that the results for being these types of leaders are not being respected and being hated. As will all things in life it is trying to find the balance between the two and doing it effectively that makes it challenging but worth it to be a great leader. Thank you for sharing.
Another certified hood classic
Tupac approves
Tupac appropriated tf outta Machiavelli
@@bkgotbeats Can you elaborate on how Tupac's view of life connects to Machiavelli? Genuinely asking, thanks.
@@uncleusuh its said that when pac was in prison he studied / picked up a book of machiavelli and specifically his takes on war tactics. caught that in some interview.
Uhh also, Machiavellis death was surrounded in mystery, no one knows where he was buried, or even when he died. Tupac's death was surrounded in mystery, due to many lyrics he wrote basically predicting details about his death. There's more, but I'm not getting into it rn
I want people to be afraid of how much they love me - Michael Scott
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Overthinking isn't always a bad thing. I think even worse than overthinking is to tell yourself that your thoughts cannot be trusted.
Overthinking can be just the mind trying to find a solution that isn't presenting itself right now.
There is no one best way to deal with this, but trying to think and act logically and methodically can help. Cognitive Behaviour Therapy is a really good tool for a lot of people and I think the principles of it should be taught in school, from even a very young age.
But there are other things like trying to gain a different perspective through either studying philosophy, wisdom, spirituality or even religious thought (some religious thought can cause problems but mucg religious thought also can help with problems, but that goes with philosophy too).
Other things like taking steps to get your life in order, getting into routine, getting better sleep if it is something you can improve, being social, getting good and stimulating exercise, reducing screen time, etc can really help.
But true meditative practices, and the sense of practicing oneness can greatly help you regain your compass in life too.
I think this is really good. Morality comes down to treating people according to the efforts/outcomes of their work. If everyone is treated “equal” regardless of what they do, it pushes down those who work hard and elevates the lazy
Exact point
I do agree. People should be awarded and beware of consequences of neglect and disrespect. Professor in highscool
The structure of the human figures changes in this video i guess. I appreciate the change! Keep motivating us. 😊
This was actually really eye opening. Thank you 🙏🏽
My little brother is very entitled. To the point that he won't even get a glass of water himself. And i always let it slide. But he's 18 now. I'm going to start implementing these tips
You are a bit late and probably spoiled him too much already...But try it as fast as possible...I without knowing used this kind of things as it seemed logical to me..Now my 3 siblings only listens/fear/care to what I say...And does what I say most of the times...They Doesn't listen much to my mom and dad as they were too soft and lost respect....
Wow, your content is amazing! I was working on a Niccolo Machiavelli's quotes video and this video reminds me of this quote: "It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both." -Niccolo Machiavelli
Thanks for making and sharing wonderful content 💛
I would literally appreciate if you make your next video on importance of humility and empathy in life.
Very nice video , I always say that successful people are those who can find a midway between being evil and being gullible 😃
Excellently put. As someone who has been a leader and employer for three decades, I wholeheartedly agree.
I have trusted people, but only as far as I required. And they almost ALWAYS overestimated how much I required them. If they became complacent or too comfortable, I'd knock them down from their illusory pedestals. At that point, it was easy to determine who was there for their fragile ego and who actually wanted to achieve a TEAM GOAL that exceeded anything they could produce individually.
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Great video! This video is another reason to being a great leader.
if i could give this video 1m likes i would.
I learnt this philosophy in the hard way,
i'm a class prefect (in Kenya) and as class prefects we do alot of work and even teachers depend on us when it comes to punishment for the students. I wish i knew this earlier.
I reckon these are one of those things that make sense theoretically but difficult to implement practically. How does one measure rewards and punishment? Everyone has perceived value towards anything in life. For example, let's say that someone is sent to detention. One person could see it as a bad thing since they want to do something else (punish). Another could see it as time to get some peace, quiet and solidarity - which is something they prefer (reward).
Perhaps yes, although it's impossible to 100% account for all methods of said rewards and punishments so, one should try just for the basic idea
Actually that is not the case.Mainly It's about treating everyone equally. It's not a very big deal if one person prefers the punishment that another person hates. If the whole group / team / society can see that the leader treats everyone equally, then they fear the leader.Because even if someone loves the punishment personally, still they fear the punishment because they know that other people see it as a punishment. So they don't like it since the punishment causes a damage to their reputation/self respect.
Most societies will have a universal framework to draw upon. Especially when they're specific to that situation or setting only. In school, if you're a teacher, reward those who do their homework well and achieve certain satisfactory grade. Reward those who also made an honest attempt and offer solutions or more whilst teaching the next bit of the syllabus. Punish those who didn't attempt to at all. Either tell the parents it wasn't completed, or simply detention. The difficult thing, which you were saying is applying these rewards and punishments at the right levels to each individual. Based on society, some may see detention as a good thing, and some may see staying over time on weekends as good also. But universally it's still accepted by society these are not ideal circumstances. For any leader, don't think of how can I punish Nancy or Joe or who. Think what is considered an acceptable minimum my employee must do, and what is the max threshold for those to in turn receive a reward. Although your employees are individuals, it's best you treat them as a statistic or even more cynical a product so you can judge each product evenly through comparison. But then, extreme biases still exist when selecting products.
These are just ideas of how to handle. Implementation will be circumstantial. Empower your people to be the best version of themselves!
I think you are asking the wrong question. You are looking at this far too academically. Macchiaveli did not deal with the academic so much as he dealt with the law of the jungle.
A good leader or indeed a good person is someone who has strong values. Integrity must be one of those values.
If the person on the receiving end of such a person sees that they are being dealt with albeit imperfectly, but at the same time with a sense of integrity, justice and fairness, and overall respect for their humanity, they will far more likely appreciate the way they are being treated, even if they are being treated far from perfectly.
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I think it's a good baseline way to go about leadership. A sort of blanket for all subordinates treated equally with proportional punishment and reward. But on an individual level person to person, say if you're leading only one person, it should be more based on that persons personality, drive, etc
I wouldnt say that respect comes from fear.
I would say that it comes from love and consideration that we have for another person or group of people and UNDERSTANDING for their boundaries.
And consiquences that arise if those boundaries get crossed.
I agree. Respect comes from love and boundaries. Thank you for being kind and sensible.
@@lemurlover7975 But in order to respect your boundaries they must know what will happen then. And that's where fair plays an important role, you must be able to have something if you don't want them to control you still.
*Rule 1* : "They fear u but they don't hate u."
= It's very imp to properly reward someone when they do things ryt & equally imp to punish someone when they do wrong. The balance of Reward & Punishment is critical to it.
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I think macheveli is on point , based on his leadership analysis.
Funny enough this video came out around the time I was in class. We were introduced to the ideas of the same man you're talking about here! Weird timing but I'm into it. Awesome video!!
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brilliant video 🤝, rewarding and punishing in equal terms can be quite the task
Keep creating contents. Thank you
Everything has to be done honestly Fairly Justly balanced and Assertively.
With a certain amount of kindness aswel.
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We shouldn’t make others fear us, we should make others respect ourselves
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Respect cannot be demanded from someone it is earned! K
I am really agree with him
Bro just got reccomended this by a senior teacher at my school.
I agree with some other comments, that this idea is great on paper but in the practical real world it is very difficult if not impossible to implement because there are so many factors that go into reward and punishment. Not to mention that some people use other means as an escape to complete work, favoritism, sexist bias, jealousy or attempting to stifle a potential competitor. I've seen it all, from a female coworker who was late almost every single day by some times an hour or more and was never punished for it and many suspected that she was making up for it in a "secretive" way for the floor manager. Meanwhile anyone else who came in just a few minutes late would get a harsh reprimand. It made everyone even those who never came in late resent the co-worker who was chronically late. Lets also not forget favoritism such as a family member of a manager or boss who manages to get special privileges based on being the family member. It causes rifts within the company and breaks any sort of system.
Any type of perfection in anything is impossible. The important thing is that if you keep in mind to try as best as you can to treat people equally, and to while punishing and rewarding them you are careful how much of which you are doing, you are on the horse. Unless you are otherwise completely incompetent, you will be in top 20% easily.
Nothing kills the morale like realising that your boss is not fair. Nobody could be completely fair, it is impossible. If you just try to be fair, instead of trying to micromanage others for example, you will have better results. Be it with children, students, those under you in your company, or just with your friends and others who are equal to you and sometimes even above you. You can sneakily punish your boss if he is overpunishing you for example. People are doing it all the time without getting caught. There are so many ways.
I have a very good memory, so I remember how in grade school children were more obedient to the fair teachers than even those who were very strict while punishing us. I remember how much better everyone learned under the fair teachers than those who were trying very hard to teach us very well, but had their favourites...
This exactly how I raise my kids.
This is the problem with one of my teachers! He never gives credit for homework because nobody does it and never punishes anyone with leads people to accept slacking of.
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“Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me.” - Michael Scott
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There is a saying.
"Spare the rod and risk spoiling the child."
Is this still true today as it was years ago?
It was never true. Beating people with rods, hands, shoes or belts or what have you is going to give them short term and long term (lifelong) trauma and pain. I have PTSD now as a 40 year old because I was beaten as a little kid. Because of it, I get nightmares, seizures and flashbacks. They still had PTSD from child abuse even in the old days when the heartless parents wrote this stupid phrase to justify torturing their kids to make themselves feel better. Now all of them are burning in Hell for torturing their kids. Good riddance. They are not walking the earth anymore to spread ideas of abuse and physically harming kids. Just burning in eternal damnation. :) Same as how all of my abusers will and are.
I think sometimes, actions of every living being(be it Human, animal or Plant) is based on just REWARD & PUNISHMENT. ❤️ You all knowledge seekers.....
Well if you look at parenting styles, the best is authoritative. Why would low punishments and high rewards make people fear you? The idea is that everyone can get behind you if they too see this person as a problem. You can't just punish anyone who steps out of line because no one is perfect and people will dislike this tension. You also want to persuade this individual to do better next time. By taking away a reward you are using positive reinforcement without having to up a negative one. Many will view it as fair since the punishment is not severe but still commands fear into the public as something they want has been taken away. It's a way to give second chances and a sense of hope without being permissive of criminals. Instead of sending everyone to jail, just take away their ability to do that specific crime and have them unable to get nice things. This could be done by having a criminal record effect their wage by intentionally letting corporations discriminate for a specific period of time. This makes them learn that whatever the behavior is, it's bad. This also effects their social life. Over time, society will begin to trust them and working hard will give them promotions in the company. The idea is for them to have a way to rehabilitate in the first place by talking with upstanding citizens on their own accord; rather than locking them away for who knows how long. Even murderers deserve a second chance. If you're in the military, murder is praised. My point is that something triggered that response, and maybe it was financial or social. By taking away your standing in both, you discourage other people from looking at it as a viable solution to their problem. Even when the thought occurs, they'll be able to feel like there are other options that work better. People don't see prison, nor do they understand that one mistake could put them in their for months. People do see the real world, and the people who live in it. Segregating a section of your population may not be the answer, or at least not for every crime committed. Sometimes a scolding look is enough to make someone change because they know it's wrong, don't send those people to prison. The community will deal with them if they know that they did something. I think it's only fair that they get treated like everyone else but have a reprimand so that they feel like redemption is possible. It's easy to get stuck in the idea that once you fall you can never get back up. I don't think locking away one-third of our population is a viable answer to crime prevention. People thinking about crimes need to be able to talk to them. They need to be able to learn something from those people so that they don't decide the same fate. Cutting them off with life in prison isn't allowing them to change. You would be surprised what a little forgiveness could do. The world's nations could use a little forgiveness right now.
My mom got looked at and lectured a lot by well-meaning people and police too and never went to jail for her crimes and then because of this she violently tortured me for 3 decades of human trafficking slavery ever since I was a baby and raped other kids too and tortured my sister as a slave and made child porn of kids raping other kids. (I was raped in this situation by my brother who she also raped as a kid.) She killed people and pets and took every drug known to man. She is a violent psycho and a menace to society and belongs in prison. I asked her if she repents and wants to change back in 2012 prior to me disowning her and she said no she likes being this way and also doesn't know how to change and doesn't think she can. She said she is convinced she is headed for Hell no matter what she changes, so why not embrace it and drink my blood and worship Satan. She is also a cannibal who cannibalized me and a fetus I had which got murdered by her and my stepdad when they were raping me. The baby's name was Jaimie. I gave him or her their name so when they go to Heaven they can introduce themselves to the angels. She convinced herself eating a fetus they put in me by rape was going to make the fetus (Jaimie) go to Hell and I then have to go to Hell as well along with the fetus because he or she is mine, because she couldn't stand the thought of her going to Hell and me not being with her, because she wanted to bring her whole family with her when she dies and goes to Hell. She doesn't want to feel alone and she loves that sense of power of bringing everyone into torture and Hell. But I choose Heaven and she does not get to make that choice for me. I am a Christian and Jesus is my Lord and Savior. Not Machiavelli. He's heartless. Jesus loves me.
majority of poor parent are Authoritative, but unreasonable, Punishing their kids super hard for no reason or petty reason, and zero reward at all.
because this is the only time where the loser parent got upperhand in life where they're no longer the loser, you're the loser.
therefore they treat you like the dumbest idiot on earth so that they can finally win something in life.
by wasting your potential, time, and stripping you out of everything, they'll make sure that you keep being an idiot for the rest of your life.
This reminds me of bosses I had to put in their place . Fair but firm.
FAIR BUT FIRM🙏🏿
Is fear truly tied to respect in this way? If I fear someone, I simply wish to get away from them. For me, fear is the opposite of respect. I cannot respect someone I fear. And I cannot fear someone I respect.
Everyone has to establish his boundaries in order to communicate what they are willing to accept and what not. This is why you have to be feared in a certain way. Its not about you could be brutal and violent, but firm in your principles and willing to take action if they are not respected. Thats all folks.
@@diegodeousia In my mind, that defines respect. Fear is entirely different.
You're not a leader hence you speak in such way. Machiavelli's principles works for those precisely who does a managerial jobs
@@thesecret6019 Am I? How do you know?
@@narcissistwhisperer Because if you were a leader you wouldn't have commented like that
Easy to say than put in practice.
As always *Balance* is the best way
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Machiavelli wasn’t evil he was a realist
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if you are a person worth respecting you will be respected.
our body and mind are the result of the work we do in our time alone.
If you pay people per task rather than time, you don’t need to lead at all. Let their greed lead your company for you.
this is exatly what is happening at my workplace..
Nice job
I pretty much agree with everything you said but... I can't avoid feeling there's something odd for me. and it's that you cannot make everyone respect you, no matter how much you reward or punish someone, if that someone hates you, it'll do so no matter what you do. The example you've shown was very good, still being respected doesn't actually have to feel like being a leader, when I talk with my friends for example, we respect each other and we treat each others as equals, peacefully solving conflicts if they happen, there's no leader here that we must respect, we all do so for each other.
That's so true-! Friends that respect each other can learn to forgive and resolve conflicts better.
Then again, I couldn't help agree with you at the part where "you cannot make everyone respect you once they hate you".
Resentments & hatred directed to another party can truly go a long way, sadly. 😟
Sometimes, the hate comes from really dumb reasons too.
Your friends is not a good leadership example. That relationship is totally different. How about your parents?
Thats because there isn't a hierarchy in your friendships. You are all equal, in the business world you are not. Too many cheifs and not enough Indians you have collapse. Therefore someone that tells you want to do and their job is to give constructive criticism to increase performance, that person will be considered on a different responsibility level than the worker. Leadership is a balance, maintain or increase efficiency while also having the flexibility to work with different peoples temporment and enabling team work and education on a day to day despite the ever changing opinions and demeanor of the worker a leader needs to be consistent and work harder to gain respect.
Respect has become Cheap, I don’t crave Cheap.
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please do a video on the SEVEN PRINCIPLES OF THE EAGLE,i would love to hear your POV
It is always important to remember to be able to adapt to the different types of people. If you know that arguing would only crack the relationship, it's best to avoid conflict in order to continue a good relationship (as long as it is acceptable of course). Sometimes you will appear dumb, someone who doesn't know how to lie (maybe just because you don't like to) but the real smart ones don't show how smart they are, and lie only when strictly necessary, so they won't be discovered.
Remember that conflict only leads to toxicity sometimes. You should get respect because they find you valid not because you should be feared, otherwise you will be annoying. Being firm is ok tho.
Just my thoughts.
If we could find a way to properly lead people without punishment and still not be bored, than that would be fantastic
IS IT BETTER TO BE FEARED THAN LOVED?
I am a boy from austria and this helped me a lot!- Thanks for the tips, now I understand the system with punishment and rewards. I also have learned from an other platform that a person should let other lose himself when others dont value
It is a mechanism based on reward and punishment, selfish benefits and fear.
This sounds very sane. Jon Haidt talks a lot about him in one of his books though (I think The Righteous Mind). Is it true that he spoke about the importance of being perceived as good, above that of actually being good, as an evolutionary adaptation?
I was under the impression his name as an adjective was synonymous with moral deception and mimicry. Is this something he advocated or just observed? Or am I just way off the mark
He saw no problem in cruelty for example. For him it was a perfectly reasonable thing. Even the one he himself suffered. They tortured him for days, and he later described it as something reasonable. He wrote a book about how deception, cruelty, cunning and manipulation are the important thing in politics, with many examples of why people who failed to use the methods described in the book are far less competent in ruling over others. If you add to it that he had some beliefs that were quite unpopular at the time, for the reason of being way ahead of it, you can see the reason why he would be seen as the devil.
Excellent video and excellent explanation. Wish I could share this with my Boss 😭
“Would you rather be feared or loved? Both - I want people to be afraid of how much the love me.”
-Michael Scott
🤨😃 No.
If anyone wants my opinion on this, I say I agree with this philosophy. I want to be a great leader in order to achieve my dream of becoming the boss. I may need to make others respect to do that.
Bro made a 5 word sentence into a 300 page essay.
"The ends justify the means"
No endz no skinz
and i love it i wish more videos with examples like these existed. I had so many similar bosses and experiences and this video summed everything i ever thought about in that field.
That's what youtube is nowadays
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I agree on a balance and rewars compensatie, however this only seems applicable to leaders. I do not feel lik it's applicable to me in my stage of life.
Agreed but its hard to maintain the balance
If you (tried) to read some of his books you know that Machiavellistic strategies shows us (or politics) how to manipulate people - so they do what you need them to do in order to archive your own goals. Which is very egocentric and can be manipulativ :(
Not sure if this is worth to internalize.
Anyway. The video is very good made. Thanks for that content.
Yeah, it is about manipulation
But I think it is nessecary to know, because you are bound to lose any game that you don't know the rules of.
Anyone can easily manipulate you if you don't know how to manipulate people
@@EGO.BReAKERR yeah that's true.
Manipulation can be effective without being malevolent.
I believe that many people inherently know/feel this. But they get stuck at the how? Like how do they implement this? Because they all face their own individual situation and have different levels of difficulty which could prevent them from establishing this form of leadership.
I believe it is true however when I define respect it's synonym is admiration. That doesn't seem to line up for me. For example at your job if you refuse to work you could get fired. If your treated badly at work you could quit. This balance is what I would call respect.
One thing about Machiavelli is that he was very Machiavellian.
Hello, I would recommend that give 10 reward of 1 good job in answer to 1 good job ,while give 1 punishment of 1 bad job in return 1 bad job . Also, if he understood really well and took his responsibilities well before punishment , forgive. According to the King of Kings. God satisfie you for video.
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I love how paper pushers and middle managers are always reading this material like it's gonna help them rise to the top.
You're not going to "I am glitter I am Gold rise up ting ting like glitter and gold" because you're a middle man being used by someone who built the foundation on which you stand. And that's the point. You take orders, get a little power trip by passing them orders on, but you're NOT a leader.
If you're having to read Machiavelli to "learn how to get ahead" you're already not the type who is ever going to lead.
And second of all the LOW stakes shit that is your Office job at "(North/South) (Western/Eastern) (Medical/Insurance) Center/company" is never going to matter.
The point is leaders are SELF MADE and rarely tread in the paths of others and certainly didn't read Machiavelli to finally get the courage to tell their boss "I AM NOT going to do this extra work (if your okay with that Mr. Bossman sir"
_Niccolo Machiavelli_ the Italian philosopher who wrote the great book _the prince_ u guys must give it a read
No wonder, Nancy broke up with Steve and went with Jonathan :)
I agree.
Is there anyone noticed that there is an character machiavelli in 'Assassin Creed Botherhood game..'
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Ion know how to swiftly attack/punish people online…..
Is there a word or phrase that basically encapsulates Steve's "philosophy"?
Seems like Steve had other ideas. The way he over-rewarded Nancy.
I do agree,
Great video 8/6/24
What this means: be kind, but don't let people walk all over you.
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ergo, concordantly, visa vi - Fear me, pleb. Your respect, I demand it!
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I think that
I do agree to machiavelli's
Thoughts that people should be treated accordingly to their actions
But if we look at more details
Every person is different from each other even psychologically
Some person take punishment as a sign that the other person hates them coz not everyone realise their mistakes
And for some people rewards aren't enough they tend to seek more
Machiavelli's laws work greaht at bulk
But if one had to be a true leader he will have to treat everyone differently according to their psychology at skim level
And will have to treat and see everyone equally at bulk level
Those who have brains can understand though what i say is a bit complicated but i hope you get the meaning
At my job, Heroes and Zeros earn the same, the boss will probably let you skate some, but the under performers who do just enough, seem to get the same compensation. This is a government job, so maybe it is what it is.