Should You Buy a GHD/GHR?
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- Опубликовано: 15 июн 2020
- I went back and forth on buying a GHD/GHR for a long time. After having owned one for around 5 months, I give you me feedback on if YOU should buy one.
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Yes I should... I was literally the only person at my commercial gym using it pre-covid. I’ve already ordered one. My hamstrings are by far my strongest muscle group and GHR as helped me go from a 455 DL to 585. Along with the Ab work and low back extensions.
Nice work!
as a third piece of gear after power rack and functional trainer, yes it is good but focus on power rack/barbells, dumbbells and functional trainer. This falls into the nice to have category.
thanks for the review. I've been close a few times on pulling the trigger for one of these, but I felt there's gotta be a diy version I can do. I ended up coming across and article where Bud Charinga became obsessed with this machine after he figured out what the Soviets were using it for, so then he made his own version with a saw horse, wrapped and nailed a cushion on top of it, (like a diy pommel horse) and used his barbell to hold his legs down. So I think I'll go that route but I'll also make stall bars to hold my legs in place. Then I can fold up the saw horse and put it away to make room.
Right on good luck!!
Thanks for the review, been thinking of getting one for a while. Want!
I love it, but I don’t think it’s something people need
I bought a $250 Titan GHD a couple of years ago and absolutely don't regret it. I was originally on the fence as wether to buy a reverse hyper or the GHD and ultimately decided to get the GHD.1. Because of price, & 2. Because I figured that I could hopefully recreate the reverse hyper movement with bands on the GHD + all of the traditional GHD exercises.
Nice, their GHD is up to $400+ now
Very interesting reading the comments. I am trying to recreate a 45 degree back extension machine with my rack and some rack mount rollers, as well as looking at hamstring development rollers on the floor. Space. I didn’t find the GHD to be particularly helpful but fixing the lower body clearly makes sense as a strength developer and some customers need that extra work.
You might be able to do it with a couple of roller pads mounted to your rack.
Made the same mistake. Went with the Reverse Hyper first thinking it would help low back issues from an old injury. Wasted a good chunk of change. The GHD though is awesome. Giant sets on the ghd with stiff leg deads will melt your glutes and hams and surprisingly, no more back issues.
Haha glad I'm not alone!
Reverse hypers caused back pain for me where there hadn't ever been any to begin with. If I do them, I get jacked up. If I don't do them, my back stays fine. I bought one and it was a mistake as well.
Right when I'm assembling an inversion table. Helpful vid, thanks.
I used one a few times at my old gym, was interesting!
I have a very basic home gym with a rack, barbell and dumbells and the only extra special equipment i have is GHR and it's been very useful and important piece of my training to have for sure.
Good to hear!
Great take, also nice shirt... almost pulled the trigger on that one!
My 80s nostalgia kicked in hard, had to buy.
Great video and insights. I'm in a similar pickle as you were about the reverse hyper. I'm buying one to hopefully alleviate lower back tightness. I'm purchasing an Atlantis which is commercial. Hopefully it works lol. Ty
Fingers crossed!
you can also do preacher curls on these too and probably a bunch of other things lol
lol
I get much more use from my GHD than I did for my reverse hyper. Still have my GHD and love it.
Glad I'm not alone there!
I'm one of the guys that have been bugging you to review this. Thank you, I'm looking forward to the review. I am looking at buying a smaller, used, floor style ghr but I like the range of motion for back ext. Footprint is my issue. Thx again
Will try to get to in the next 2 weeks.
I used to use the floor style one at my old gym. Still did the job just fine without the extra range of motion👍🏼👍🏼. I still like reverse hypers so I'm thinking eventually I'll get the donkey. Rhino drop in is first on my list though.
I have both. I use the ghd every workout. I stopped using my reverse hyper. The GHD is very effective for training hamstrings. That’s hard to do in a home gym. I started with sets of 1 90 days ago and am now up to 3 sets of 9. In my home gym my leg workouts consist of squats or deadlifts and this. That’s all.
Great progress. when I got mine I had to use a band to help b/c I couldn't do many but can now do some weighted sets of 10!
Brandon! You asked, then I asked, then you did this video! Thanks. Looking for the Rogue Abrams review 👊😀
Soon, waiting on some new pads to come in!
I was just asking myself this today!
Haha good timing
Same here haha
Should we?
Bought a second hand one for 160Euro, not Rogue brand or any ultra high brand, its an old model ATX one, yeah its big but for that price... and having to want to try one ever since i started lifting years ago and no gym ever had one. im damn stoked about it. its big in my living room but damn its exciting to basicly have a full gym now in my living room.
That sounds pretty sweet to me!
Bret Contreras on T- Nation wrote an article on peak torque force comparison between GHR vs. 45° hyperextension bench. Basically 45° hyper offers overall better peak torque forces than GHR, for the hip musculature is under constant tension at the beginning and end ROM, where peak force occurs once torso is parallel to floor. Thus your better off buying a 45° back extension bench instead.
I wouldn't trust much from T Nation personally.
I have the rogue ghd 1.0. Really regret not buying the 2.0 as that one is easier to adjust from the looks of things. When I got it, I barely used it. These days I use it a lot. Great for warming up before squats. Great for some ab exercises, but as you say you can do that without it. Think a better use of the space it takes up would be a plate loaded lat pulldown/low row if there were any decent ones for a similar price.
I actually think if I were buying new I don't know if I'd go GH1 or Abram. Once it's set I haven't found I need to adjust really.
Helpful, thank you for sharing!
Glad it was helpful!
Great for flute ham raises. Sit ups. And preacher curls 🤘
Suns out, guns out.
I have debating with myself if I should get a GHD or not. After watching and hearing your input, I belive I would much rather have a leg extension leg curl hybrid machine than just a GHD. At least I would be able to hit the hams as well as the quads. Yes I understand that both hit the hams in different ways. But would like something that's "more bang for my buck." Thanks for the video.
Makes sense to me!
Just catching up on your videos, and what do I see... a stunning 8-Bit Powerlifting shirt.
I'll expect a royalty check soon.
last time i was this early i had my prequarantine gains...
ayyy
I scored on a used Yukon Fitness GHD in excellent condition off craigslist for like $90. great investment so far
Right on!
Might also be good for preacher curls. Set the bar on the handles and stand in the middle as you do in this video
Good call!
Definitely feel a GHD/GHR would be more beneficial than a reverse hyper, feel you can do more on the GHD/GHR
However if committing to getting one I would make sure other strength equipment would come first
I train for functional strength/health these days, but I do like to incorporate some body-building components and some powerlifting components in my strength training
In order I'd say
1. Some sort of power rack/half rack/combo rack etc to perform major compound lifts and be the epicentre of your gym, along with your non-negotiable barbell/plates etc. Maybe bands too for a bit of versatility or accessory work, particularly for power racks and half racks where bands can be looped around anywhere and everywhere
2. A bench, preferably an adjustable one for more exercise variation
3. Set of dumbbells, maybe kettlebells if you're into crossfit and stuff
4. A landmine/torsinator, tons and tons of stuff you can do with one. If you own a top quality power rack, a pair of jammer/lever arms would probably work better instead
Then a GHD/GHR probably comes into play, along with other specialist machines/pieces like a leg press, lat pulldown/high-low pulley system, preacher bench etc. A good well equipped power rack/half rack eliminates the need for a power tower (chin up/dip station)
Some solid points and I def agree, I've bought/sold a ton of stuff in my home gym and it took me 6 years before buying one!
@@BasementBrandon you've probably heard it a few times already from others, but over the last two months I've decided also to convert over to a home gym and the pandemic definitely was an instigator, but feel it's the right decision long-term and not a decision I'll regret and watching your videos (and other reviewers like Coop from GGR) have definitely helped me with things to look out for on the market when selecting equipment.
Felt in particular that there were far more convenience and time related benefits training at home compared to sticking with my local commercial gym (still closed) which had a tendency of being extremely busy peak hour mid afternoon onwards weekdays, frustrating me on some particular days, like chest or leg day and after 16 years of gym training, I feel ready to move on.
Currently in the process of identifying and saving up for a rack, was able to secure a quality adjustable bench (rated at over 800 pounds but I reckon it could take more) and some hex dumbbells/stand to start off with, but saving for that rack in about 2-3 months time.
I think a mix of things like a quality heavy duty 1000+ pound rating build, such as the steel has to be at least 3mm thick and somewhere around 60-80mm in build with long structural frame warranties of say at least 10 years just in case something goes wrong. Then potential expandability, working within space/footprint but also be at a reasonable price point will come into my decision making (don't mind paying more for good quality). Last but not least a reasonable supplier to deal with as customer service is important too.
But anyways, love your videos mate and seeing an insight into your wealth of knowledge in this area.
How fitting, just bought an GHD/reverse hyper combo for my home gym. Wolverson fitness for any UK subscribers watching.
Nice! I was going to talk about combos like this but decided to try to keep it to the point!
What are ghr's like on that? Doesn't look like a lot of knee support / padding.
Ah yes willenhall i work around that area. Not local enough for me to join unfortunately
I do Nordic Hamstring Curls with bodyweight. I feel its way better because I use my own body weight and its cheaper than a GHD and I dont need extra space. I put my feet under the cross member of my bench press bench and knee on a yoga pad.
I got a hyperextension bench where I lay down reversly, attach some rubber bands on the bottom of the machine an do reverse hyper.
So I saved a lot of money, space and can do 3 exercises. Leg curls, hyperextension and reverse hyper.
Fair enough!
I do like using the one at the gym, and look forward to resuming doing so when the gym reopens one of these centuries, but it's hardly vital.
Makes sense!
Wow I’m making one at the moment. Coz I’m a welder anyway. 💪🏼💪🏼
Awesome!
damn those forearms looking vascularrrrr. brandon bro youve been getting different pumps in i see lmfao
Nintendo gains.
Sold my Rogue Abrams 2.0 to make room for a leg press/hack squat machine I picked up on FB marketplace. Wasn't using the GHD enough to justify taking up that much space. I was lucky to get most of my money back on the resale.
Right on! That's one of the nice things with Rogue, you don't take much hit on resale.
thanks brandon! this is actually one of the exercises i've been doing at home because i can wedge my feet under my bed frame and do the same thing. i do miss using the actual equipment at the gym though...
Haha smart thinking!
I know this video is 2 years old but I'm thinking about getting the compact version of a GHD (from strength shop) because I have verry little space. And I can get it used for €150
Right on!
That's one of my fav machines at the gym
Glad I'm not alone!
Picked up a rogue abram ghd 2.0 and mg1 multibar today for $300, both almost new
Good deal!
I like GHR's but, yeah, I doubt I'd ever buy one even if I had the space. I'd probably program stiff legs or RDL's before I bought a whole new piece of equipment.
Def understandable.
Thanks for the video! Do you think a GHD pad would have an advantage not rigging up a Nordic/natural GHR? These lay on the floor, and have a pad for the bottom and front of your knees.
Personally I like having my knees hang free vs put my weight on a pad there.
Thinking about that exact question for 2 Weeks
great minds think alike.
Is there any makeshift, DIY, or easier solutions of creating a GHD or training that movement? It could significantly reduce costs and I'd be interested to see
Nordic Curls!
My question is about the minimum ceiling height for the Abrams 2.0. My basement ceiling is kind of low and every GHD looks like the pads are 4 feet off the ground. I'm kind of waiting for some company to make one that isn't so GD big.
They make floor models.
Thoughts on the rogue ghds that attach to a rack or wall strip? I made a plyo box earlier in quarantine, so would only need the rack attachment and the pad. Would certainly help with floor space, but not cost or usability/functionality
From what I've seen/heard, they're kind of a pain to move around. Most people who like them end up making a wall attachment for them and leave them in place most of the time.
@@BasementBrandon Thanks Brandon! Appreciate the insight. Still amazes me that you reply to all the comment. I was worried about the set up time / disassemble time. Seems like picking up a GHD second hand in the used market may be the way to go if I'm going to have the set up permanently in place. Have seen Sorinex, Legend, and a few other brands on Facebook marketplace in recent times for less than $500 in my area.
The biggest downside is the footprint, for me at least. I wish I had a bigger space, I use maybe 1/3 of my garage for a workout, so I wish I could implement this piece of equipment but in a more compact form, or at least if I could quickly fold it somehow to conserve space.
Def a space eater
I have severe apt and the thing that stopping from fixing that is glute amnesia in that case shud I get my posture is rarely fuked.
Should prob talk to your dr.
Good review. How does a GHR/D compare to a traditional hyper-extension stand?
I think the angle at which it places your feet and the adjustability give it a "leg up"
Why not just get a combo from rouge or titan? Exact same floor space and you get both pieces? The titan reverse hyper ghd combo was around 700.
Jack of all trades, master of none kind of deal.
Yeah. Should be Top comment.
@@BasementBrandon, just Titan's version or all of the combos?
thanks mate, dropped a sub
Much appreciated
Glad to see someone else visualizes equipment as "how many stall mats will this take up?"
Easiest way to do it!
I happy to have scooped up my GHD half off, but sadly I still don’t have the space for it 😣
Flip it!
Are you sure that a ghd helps to deadlift more weight? I have a floor ghd since 1 or 2 years.. my deadlift went up since using it! I dont regret it by all means..but maybe my DL would have been went up also without using it..
So i am starting a test rigth now..want to find out if my deadlift max will go down if i stop using my ghd..
What are your thoughts? Ghd or front squats or box deadlifts or SLDL or deficits or or or..?
It shouldn't go down, but it may just not go up as much.
Hey Brandon. Im sure you’ve been more busy responding to the comments after the influx of viewers from quarantine but I hope you get the chance to still read this. So recently I purchased a barbell and some cheap plates but I’ve noticed that there’s been deep scratches on the barbell sleeves from taking on and off the weights, is this ok?
Mostly will be cosmetic but some cheap plates when cast aren't always "clean" inside, might be able to file them down some to smooth them out if needed.
What about the rogue donkey? Should the padding on a ghd be semilunar? Does that shape help in any way other than comfort of exercise?
Tough to say, I've seen these hybrids be more of a jack of all trades master of none kind of deal (have not used one). But at $2000 before shipping and tax, I would rather just get the GHD at that point.
I just bought a used pro maxima GHD for $100. Hey Brandon I would love to check out your gym when I am up there in rhode island. I visited smithfield every year at least twice a year. One day I will retired there.
Let me know
Ok what should I buy instead? Belt squat machine? Airbike? Wine fridge?
Ooooh wine fridge.
I always thought that reverse hypers were more for rehab and GHD's are more for hypertrophy
Interesting!
I love mine but wouldnt of bought mine new! I only bought it because I found one used at a great deal!
I hear ya there!
Buy some leg rollers and a foam pad for your knees, and you have Nordic curls. Not strong enough yet? Use a band for assistance.
You could, but def not the same.
Ive been arguing with myself on this very matter for a year or so now. It’s a lot of money/space for a bit of hamstring prehab.
Yeah def a tough decision, but one I'm glad I made!
I picked mine up for $100. and have plenty of room so I love it
Good get!
@@BasementBrandon the rollers work well. Thanks
Brandon can you tell me which would be better for lower back mu son is a offensive lineman and I want to help his squats he is 6' 5" 280. Would this or a reverse hyper be better for low back. Thanks Eric
For me, I got more out of the GHD than the Reverse Hyper. I'd try to have him try both in a gym before committing to either!
what's the ghd you would normally recommend (living in europe)?
Oof, that's a tough one, not as familiar with all the manufacturers. I'd prob default to strengthshop or atx.
Bells of Steel ReverseHammer is the most versatile drink stand for a decent price. Probably not the best, or worst, at any of its functions, but it gets a lot done in one spot.
That's my thought, jack of all trades/master of none.
Do you have one? I’d love to see an in depth review
Would the strength shop compact ghd be a good alternative as it can be stored upright and doesn't have the legs so technically should have a smaller footprint? Something I have been considering and would love to hear your opinion.
I think it depends, one of the things I don't like about floor models is your knees aren't free to move as much as they are with the free standing ones.
@@RonMexico527 Take a look at someone doing a GHR with just the half moon pads. You'll notice where their knees are at the beginning of the movement and the middle are quite different. I've found with the knee pads people tend to jam their knees in and keep them locked to the bottom support pad.
@@RonMexico527 TBH I don't think it makes a big difference outside of personal preference.
Hey B.C.D. - After selling the Rogue 3x3 ECHO GHD & Plyo Box, I got a used Rogue GHD 2.0 for $350 and a 4-hour round trip.
IT - IS - HUGE and would be right at home at a BDSM Club. Crossfit Box by day.... BDSM Club by night.... but I digress... moving on...
It remained in my living room for a short while until I flipped it for $550.00 as I recall (pre COVID-19)
You down with B.C.D.? (yeah, you know me...) You down with B.C.D.? (yeah, you know me...) He's got the O.C.D. (he says, admit-ted-ly)
Haha that's a nice flip!
I 1000% need that shirt. Lol
Haha throwback!
This shirt needs you
Hey Brandon, hope you are well bro. Sending love again from Toronto. For lower back rehab should i go for GHD or reverse hyper?
I personally didn't get anything out of the reverse hyper I owned.
@@BasementBrandon guess what, although I am a Canadian, it was you who introduced me to Bells of Steel and I went for their GHD/Rev Hyper combo yesterday!
@@SumanMukherjeesomzworld The hammer! Let me know what you think, haven't seen too mnay with it.
@@BasementBrandon For sure. I am months away from my dream Garage gym and I want to share it with you
super gay
Pretty sure you were crying in the reverse hyper video😂 just jokes
only on the inside.
Don't take any chances, buy both. I'm assuming you count the proper hyperextension as a staple and what about the 45degree bench? Get that too. You know what, just buy all four.
lol
Why not just get a Rogue Donkey which is both a GHD and Reverse Hyper?
B/c Reverse Hypers are a waste of money IMO
Me: Watches video on reasons not to buy a GHD.. 5 mins later…. Uses Brandon’s code and proceeds to order a GHD anyway! 😂 Went with the Rep one. Doesn’t take up too much space and offers good value on the price.
The REP one is nice. almost bought myself before I found a good deal on a used Rogue from a buddy who was downsizing.
Is this needed if you already have a hyper extension stand
Slightly different, I do hyperextensions on my GHD
GHD is optional but that shirt is a necessity for maximum gains.
hey now
amazing video
Thanks!
I am nervous to spend this much on something like this. Especially if I can't try one. I don't know anyone who has one and your globogyms don't have them. I am surprised they don't make a rack mount version for those of us who don't have space to give up. Maybe a Monster Rack accessory.
Rogue makes them, but they're not as convenient as you'd want.
@@BasementBrandon aaaahhhh. Looking at the rack setup it looks like it only works with RML uprights and if you are a larger individual it looks a bit sketch. Oh well. Maybe when I have a bigger garage.
Yeah the part is available but it’s going to weigh far too much.
Big B, for a guy around 5'10, how high do u think my ceilings would have to be?
Taller people have gotten away with less! But I think 8' is plenty.
@@BasementBrandon thanks brother. I'm gonna order 1 when rep fitness restocks
I just ordered the one from
REP. I also have Rogue reverse hyper. Yea, depends on the person and their desired gym.
I can do back extensions and other exercises that the GHR can, but honestly I hate having to set shit up during my workout. I like having the right tools set up for me during my workouts with out having to tamper with stuff. Plus I do miss the GHR since I stopped going to commercial gyms in 2020.
Both cars still fit in our two car
Garage! I Told my wife as time
goes on and the garage gym keeps growing, we will have to get better and better at parking. 🙈
I've heard good things about the REP one.
Gonna try and build a cheap ass foldable wooden one, or at least one that is disassembled and reassembled easily.
Right on
What about a combo GHD; reverse hyper like titans??
I think it's the case of jack of all trades, master of none.
What do you recommend for lower back pain fella?reverse hyper or ghd
Neither, I'd try to find what's causing the lower pain issues and fix that.
Do paving & pressure washing I've had major lower back pain for about 9 years now. I've had my back go out where I felt paralyzed for hours. Times I would be walking and my knees buckled out and I almost drop to the floor but catch myself before dropping to my knees. A whole lot of sorness. Up until a month ago I read up on the whole reverse hyper thing and benefits. When I saw Rogue had a hot deal on the Westside Reverse Hyper I bought it. Been using it close to a month now and no bullshit.....my lower back has felt absolutely incredible and stronger. I'm all more nimbly bimbly and even more mobile than before lol. I've read where it has not worked for others and many who it has changed and rehabbed them. I'm one who it has done wonders for so far. I'm now about to buy the REP Fitness GHD as well to add to my gym
Too bad you didnt like teh reverse hyper. I used one every day while the gyms were still open and i loved it.
I tried!
@@BasementBrandon Btw seeing as how you like to try new stuff, have you ever trained with macebells? They dont take up a lot of space but its incredible fun and so good for your shoulders. Both light light maces are fun to do extended flows with as wel as heavy maces just for 360's and 2-10's.
I actually own a Kabuki Shoulderok (loadable mace), but I just really haven't used it.
@@BasementBrandon This guy has some great videos on how to work with the mace. Its a lot of fun to learn the technique honestly. I use it more as a conditioning tool ruclips.net/channel/UC1kjiDY5DnH2niIDFRF0nfwvideos
For me personally I just used a strap I bought at Home Depot and just strap it on my bench.
Nice.
@@BasementBrandon Yeah it saved me money plus I don't have a lot of space for a GHR and Rev Hyp Ext. machine.
I use a GHD pad and a roller attached to my rack to hold my feet.
Link please
Nice!
Link please!!!!!!!
GHDs and reverse hypers were the results of years of research by westside. So YES. Theyre Westsides gift to the world. whats more you got yours 2nd hand. The training value is there.
Right on
Soooooo. Do you personally believe it has helped you “up” your lower body strength ie squat, deadlift, etc? Will you add size doing these workouts or is it..similar to crossover symmetry effects on the shoulders. Heard someone reference it being a way to “bulletproof” their hammies. Thanks dude.
I think this has helped a ton in my training, I use it 2x a week and it's been solid.
Did you ever make the full review? I searched ‘abrams’ and ‘ghd’ and didn’t see it. I’m torn between this and one of Elite’s...yeah, I’m a Tate fan boy, oh well...but the rogue looks sturdier and more versatile.
I never did and I ended up selling this and moving on to a more custom sorinex one for like 3x the cost. I will say the Rogue Abram is/was more sturdy than my current one. It's a great piece. No experience with the elite/williams one.
@@BasementBrandon thanks.
Love Sorinex but man they do complicate their stuff
Was just talking about this with a guy in my stream lol
Haha right on
power rack best bang for buck and functional trainer
Power rack is a great center piece.
Which model of GHD has band pegs?
You can add them to a lot of them.
I think Reverse Hypers are probably better utilized for shorter guys. It seems that taller guys have to go up further on the pad which sort of mitigates the benefits of the exercise. Not really a shock seeing as Louie designed it and he’s the size of a hermit crab 😂
Lol. I also think people tend to overuse the momentum of the arm and load up weight just to look cool :)
A GHD was a must have for my gym. Can't go wrong with the versatility it offers if you have the space and enjoy absolutely annihilating your posterior chain, from head to toe. I hope you enjoy yours 👍
Loving it so far!
That left bicep vein is distracting. 💪 Did you just finish an arm workout while recording this?
Squat day lol
Biggest drawback...definitely space. Good info.
Thanks David.
thoughts on the rogue donkey
I don't get any benefit out of a RH, so at $2k before shipping and tax it's a definite No thanks from me.
@@BasementBrandon just curious if it does the job of a ghd and RH properly. but theres almost no videos of it out there
pat ob it’s extremely expensive, bulky and won’t be found second hand. ☹️ Brian Shaw has one. He spent half a million on his home gym. Hmmmmm.
I need to upgrade mine. I use it a ton, but mine is such a piece of shit. Probably gonna go with the Titan or rep one, due to cost. The Titan one is actually very well built.
Yeah if I didn't get such a good deal on this I would have gone Rep!
Brandon Campbell Diamond the rogue one is so diesel. If price was a wash, I’d get that one too.
Looked up reps GHD as soon as I saw it in the video for 369 -- now it's at 479. These last three years really haven't been kind.
Understatement!
I’d way rather have a GHD over a reverse hyper. But I wouldn’t buy one unless it was a good deal. I don’t get anything out of a reverse hyper, some guys swear by them.
The Rep one is pretty affordable :)
Brandon Campbell Diamond I know, now you’ve got me thinking about getting it!😂
Watching this elbowing on a reverse hyper
My man
even if you train years youll not be able to do what the guy at 3:25 does. with ghd you can have progressions to this
mabye!
Don’t over think it, if you have the money and the space, get it.
If only it were that easy!