AK74 Range day: Testing the Tela ammo 5.45x39
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Just an update because it was not mentioned in the video, this batch of ammo WAS corrosive. All three guns had rust two days later even after rinsing with water.
She needs pixy wings to go with her size and voice
Get a shirt that says AK PIXY for her!!
So does that mean people can sue for false advertising? Or at least misleading consumers?
@@IceNinja2007 5:38
I certainly don't think it's intentionally misleading. I just think they got the recipe wrong.
Just traded 500 rounds of 9mm for 400 rounds of wolf 5.45. Huge win in my book.
For sure
Yea you got the better side of the deal
Or you could just get a 5.56 AK lmao
@@railfanningpoints2.045 never. Unacceptable compromise.
@@railfanningpoints2.045 that's what I'm doing... I'm on fence M90, WBP or Wasr3
Whenever AAC ever gets around to making 5.45 like they've been claiming, I've got to imagine that will bring down the price on this Tela stuff, even if the AAC is more expensive. Hell, just having a stateside manufacturer of 5.45 bulk ammo will be amazing by itself.
Hopefully it does bring the price of 5.45 down but I strongly suspect that the AAC ammo will have issues when it's first released.
There is absolutely no institutional knowledge of how to manufacture that cartridge in the United States. AAC is in uncharted waters.
@@blue_ridge_shooting7668 hornady has been producing it for a while now and they have load data available
They have been promising it for over 2 years. Their 5.45 line literally depends on it. I would hope they hurry
@@blue_ridge_shooting7668 Hornady makes 5.45x39 ammo...
@@blue_ridge_shooting7668Hornady has been doing it for over a decade
Great video.
I miss the days of 10 cent 7N6 sent to the house in ham cans. Just use black powder solvent to clean corrosive primer ammo.
I think you can get brass cases for reloading now.
Where do find primers? I have about 4-500 empty brass casings in 7.62x39
@TrustNo-1 you might be able to find berdan primers at gun shows. Otherwise if you take a 22lr case and slide that into the primer hole, cut it flush, and then size it for large rifle, you can use boxer large rifle primers. You might need to fill the case with water and hydraulic ram the old berdan primers out though. You also need to drill out the anvil from the case as well, because the boxer primer has one in it.
@@TrustNo-1Any large rifle primer will work.
Brass is brass, it is all boxer primed.
@@almaadams3631You’re wrong. I’ve got I’ve got brass 7.62x39 cases hat are berdan primed. Can’t just assume it’s all boxer primed.
I heard they were importing Berdan primers again but dont know where. Old Western Scrounger used to have them. There is also a depriming tool.@@goosedeathable
In the late 80s/early 90s; we used Windex in a can. It foams and seems to neutralize the nasty salts.
Hot water is all you need. But Windex, Simple Green, 409 or Dawn dish soap doesn't hurt.
I always turn on my shower hot AF and rinse everything. Then dry and oil. Never had a speck of rust. Nothing but 7N6.
Will it ever damage the wood? My older wasr doesn't have a nice finish.
@@robison87 Mine has zero wood. You could always remove both handguards and just aim the shower head into the action. Wipe off buttstock right after.
@bthorn5035 Thats true, good idea.
7.62x39 is going for $0.50 - $1.20 a round. That's Telaammo,Sterling, Winchester brass cased and surplus Steel and surplus brass corrosive.
Anybody saying 5.45x39 is too expensive isn't shooting anything but .22 because almost everything fromm 9mm @ $0.26 rd then it's $0.50 a round minimum.45acp, 5.56 and up.
Super semi auto babyyyy
#Monetized lol
Back in 90s, there was a lot of issues with non-corrosive 7.62X54R. We discovered the rust in the barrel, gas system & receiver was actually from steel dust in the case and pieces of the bimetal jacket getting sheared off. Even though there were rust spots, the ammo actually wasn't corrosive when doing the bare steel test.
In other cases, the 7.62X54R was actually corrosive. Perhaps repackaged surplus. There just wasn't dots of rust, but everything covered in rust. They also failed the bare steel test.
Which is why I tend to hold out and let others find out what is really corrosive before I try it. Thanks for stopping me from buying any of this ammo.
I retired on one case of 7n6.
Remedy for trigger slap: put in a slightly heavier recoil spring.. (wolf, alg, etc..)
That krink and rpk holy cow. 545 is the best. Beautiful rifles
Winchester makes brass 762x39 so it's easier to replace than 545. Hopefully other companies pick it up so it's easier to get.
Ya know what I want to see tho? The 5.8 Chinese round. You don't see it anywhere, we can't test it to compare it like 556 and 545. I just wanna know more about that damn round.
I have only read about that round & the QBZ-95... they claim it's better than our 5.56 & 5.45???
If it is so great why has it not been adopted by anything in the " new" chinese caliber.
@@hakimcameldriver they must like it.... It's the caliber they use in their newest battle rifles.... QBZ-191
@@hakimcameldriver Chinas been using the 5.8x42 for a long time..... What caliber are you talking about?
Love the content mate! You’re such a knowledgeable and humble guy too. Greetings from 🇬🇧
Appreciate this review my dude!
There was a report that the 7.62x39 by TelaAmmo was also corrosive. I've shot a couple hundred rounds of it through one of my AKs but havent seen any corrosion.
I was wondering. I got some of ot too.
@@user-qo3yy9nv1u
The batch of 7.62x39 I got is corrosive. Its not as bad as the Yugo stuff but just a heads up. I tend to treat all this ammo as corrosive until its proven not like Tula and such.
Yea buffman range found out that its corrosive unfortunately
so is the surplus stuff, and cleaning guns is fun so ig its not a big deal
Any word on if the 7.62x39 is from tela?
@@user-qo3yy9nv1u yea the 7.62x39 is not corrosive
@@lucasconklin71 yea 100% it's more so people are aware of it so they run water through there guns
@@brando104 weird. Id figure they would have the same primers. I shot a few mags of the 7.62 this weekend and didn't clean it so ill look tonight.
The keyhole issue stems from a video where some gunsmith chimed in on a gun that had no crown or damaged crown anyway. The Russians changed krinkov twist rate for climate issues. Bulgarians kept original twist rate.
Climate issues?
@@MkvineAfghani's high mountainous cold range
Keyhole issue stems from the wrong twist rate to stabilize a projectile….nothing to do with climate.
@@thecombataccountantmaybe the cold climate slows the bullet and causes it to keyhole?
@@Mkvinethey are not related. The only time velocity will effect stability is when a properly stabilized bullet becomes unstable moving through the “transonic barrier” when the speed drops into the 1340-1100 FPS range, transitioning from supersonic to subsonic.
Damn that RPK is a dream gun
Klay! I long ago figured out the absolute *best* way to clean corrosive out of a 74. Pressure washer! Hooked up with cold hose water. Inside and out. Just do it on a towel in the driveway and not the yard, as that’s a good way to get mud in your gun and destroy your grass. Then dry it out with an air compressor with a high pressure blower tip. It’ll make it look brand new
I bought a case of their 7.62x39 a few weeks ago and got batch number 3. Haven’t had any rusting issues with that side of the spectrum but I’ve also been cleaning it just in case. It sucks that this stuff is spicy and at a $1 a round but hopefully they’ll get it sorted and the longer it gets imported the cheaper it’ll be over time.
I own that vepr with the long barrel wood stock shoots like a dream
Just curious, why can’t more companies specifically American produce these ammo types? (Steel case)
I’ve been trying to research this ammunition. From what I’m finding, it’s manufactured at a factory in Azerbaijan and then imported to Tela Impex in Florida.
love that RPK 74!!!!!!!
That super semi is pretty ok. "wolverines" 😆 that was unexpected and great! Dude you clean your machines the same way I do.
All you need is water. Spray it down with a water hose to dissolve the corrosive salts that draw the moisture if the salts are left on the gun.
Awesome video🙏🏼💪🏻
I only counted 25 rounds from the long mags. You two have some great trigger fingers.
Those long 30 rounders have added safety between the rounds. That's what increases the length.
Great video! I love my AK74! I just can not bring myself to shoot it due to the ammo cost/availability.
I saw an entire case of 5.45 at a gun show over here in Houston yesterday. At $14 a box of 20
A dollar a round? If you gotta go that route, go with the Hornady.
The sound of the krink reset. 😍❤️🔥
Love the Vepr!
Such wonderful toys. Love seeing you both exercise the super safety semi auto fingering technique.
Yeah, man when it comes to going super-semi, you really gotta put the work in to keep that muscle memory up.
I love how worn the finish on the krink is! 😍
Great video! Long live 545!
I've shot corrosive ammo through my Romanian AKM and I just spray windex down the bore and every where inside to neutralize the salts and then a bore brush with Hoppes #9 a few times and clean as usual. I do it as soon as I get back from shooting.
Ammonia damages the chrome lining. It's why you are only to use it sparingly for heavy copper fouling. The ammonia does nothing for corrosive salts. Simply flushing with water removes it.
That woman definitely lights my fire!
Omg she mastered the fast trigger pull
This company really be selling corrosive ammo for 70 cents a round, they can go pound sand for all I care. If I ever want to have an AK74, I'm just going to go the 5.56 AK route (AKA, we have AK74 at home)
Depressing.
and lying to their customers so they ruin rifles no longer viable to be imported
Lacquer and Sealant Russian ammo is just gorgeous. I love it.
5.45 '' Another Great Video 💯 Thanks for Sharing💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
I know exactly what you’re talking about with the krink rattle mine does the same and is unique to it.
Someone has been on atlantic firearms……….
Expensive too
4:17 your safety selector is moving sir 😂 slap
Yeah, I need to tighten it up.
@@KLAYCO47 that's what caused the trigger slap
Buen video, Buen trabajo.
That brought back fond memories ( I'm probably your dads age 68) Thank You !
Wasn't that RPK mag you threw down Over $200 back in the day? How much now?
Seems like there's mixed results with corrosion build up from the Tele Ammo. Maybe depends on the batch/lot number?
I bought a bunch of their 7.62, ran it through my Draco and had no corrosion issues.
Yeah I got like 4500 rounds of 5.45 stacked up, we took a rifle class a few weeks ago and the wife wanted to shoot her 74, I said I’ll allow it, the class was only a 150 round class haha, she took the Tula and SB though, no 7n6 that’s for social events.
Instead of rinsing with just water, have you tried using Windex with Ammonia. That's what I use after shooting Black Powder, then clean in a regular way It works.
“ Amonia D” isn’t really ammonia. Its still the water in the windex that dessolves the salt. A better one even for black powder is “sportman’s oil” AkA Ballistol, mixed with water… it was used by the German military in both world wars to clean corrosive ammo residue. It was used on wounds too amazingly. So its not toxic on your hands/skin- some are.
Thats why you have the extra pin in the lower.
Excellent review!if you guys come to visit marc let me know i wanna meet ya 😊
This video got to me I recently traded my 545 for a 308 due to ammo pricing. Since I had plenty of 556, and didn’t have anything that could do what a 308 could. So I saw it as a logical trade due to ammo pricing being the same
Don't refinish that 74U man... no way, looks the way it should - like it went to hell and back. Anyway glad we got some 545 coming in. I picked up some of that Tela as well, seems fine. The coating doesn't look very thorough, compared to the Ruski stuff, but it runs well I think. We'll see after a few thousand rounds though.. I'm still waiting for PSA/AAC to pull through on some steel cased at a better price. If that happens i'll be enjoying a lot more range days.
Thanks for sharing!
No way man. I love the way it looks.
Yall are Bruce Lee fast on that trigger !!Yayyy!! 😂😂
That's because they have a Giggle Switch in those Rifles, the Finger isn't that Fast total B,S, I own Comblac Weapons and Shot them in the Army for years and those are NOT just Semi Auto Guns
Only reason I stayed with 7.62 not 5.45 is potential availability. Only Romania and Russian use. Posion bullet is bad azz but availability was always a worry.
I have thought about buying the tela stuff I been finding golden tiger 59 grain fmj rounds and 7n6, and red army standard, wolf tulammo, Barnaul on ammo seek for cheaper still I'll keep buying it until it is dried up
Hard 'ta believe just 9-10 years ago ya could get a case of 2160 rounds of RUS 53g 7N6 Milsurp 5.45 for $300 w/shipping included in cost?!...Just insane, Ive a few of the wood cases left using 'em as my 'spare parts dept. of diminishing returns', being Soviet Afghan era surplus, one from 1984 & the other from 1979. With those 3 cases I'd purchased, I didnt have ONE single FTF or issue with ANY of those cases of ancient ammo purchased, which is kinda wild to ponder considering the age?...
-Accurate as needed to be too! (All of it shot through a 5.45 S&W MP15, enough to burn the barrel out in 2 years time. About 18K rounds to do so w/immaculate care of the barrel/weapon while doing so)
Somehow in spite of the troubles over in Donbass, in 2018/19 I'd scored 1K rounds of 5.45 made @ Lugansk cartridge factory, the ammo lot from 2015 or '14. Im still sitting on all the 5.45 I possess. Being careful not to burn it up considering the current costs/availability....
-Due to the war we're seeing foreign/U.S defense contractors supporting the war in UKR busily sucking up any & ALL nations inventories of 7.62 x 39 & 5.45 & $ending it to UKR for the war effort. Such MilSurp deals are now a thing of the
Nice PSR shout out! When you gonna try your own Plastikov?
Atlantic has molot vepr RPK-74s in stock for $8k if anyone is interested...
I find sometimes I need wrap my finger a bit for triggers that slap.The 5.45 is hit or miss you have to know the right people for 7n6 and theirs Barnaul at small gun stores wolf There still is a some out there,don’t let someone psych you out.The 556 is the best to train with
74 is hard af on all fronts. Unless you got some hornady black or want to play resize hero, the bullets were impossible to find forever
I bought a 545 galil because of mister klay here and let me say, after an ALG UL and a KNS I have the most insanely awesome rig this mf’r has ever seen…thank you sir
My local FFL has had one of those Molot 74RPKs for 5+ years now. Hasn't been able to move it. I'm assuming because of ammo and they're asking around 5k for it.
We will miss you..
Fastest fully semi auto to date!
Bulgy circle 21 mags, very nice. Where can you get on ???
I got the 1,000 round bulk 7.62x39 from Tela about a month ago and im wondering if when you mentioned about it being corrosive has anything to do with there being little pieces of idk what on the paper plate when i pour the ammo on there straight out of the paper. If so would someone please let me know if i need to rinse the ammo before loading my mags. Also the ammo has been doing surprisingly good at 50-100 yards. I have a Zastava M70 ZPAP and it's my first time using steel cased ammunition in any rifle.
I remember seeing AK quality enforcement posting something from Buffman on whether or not this stuff was actually non corrosive. I think there was some 7.62x39 Tela that was corrosive . Also seeing some other people claim the same thing...... can you do a video update on if youre seeing any corrosion? EDIT. NVM i literally just saw your pinned comment
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That Bulgarian 74vwith that wood furniture has no comparison. Is screams bad ass ak loudly
i stacked 762x54 and 762x39 but never the 545, wish I had.
Same
Nice rpk!
The rpk74 didn’t MOVE on super semi! Lol
Im wondering...could that bipod influence the zero when the gun is braced ?
Your wife handled that recoil like a boss.
Moment of zen.
Just curious what microphone are you using?
Rode
More than a year ago I saw pics of boxes for AAC 5.45x39 at their booth at Shot Show 2023. What happened? I'm one of those dudes that isn't shooting and 5.45 now, and I have a few thousand rounds of Golden Tiger. I've considered grabbing 500 rounds of this though. If I win the lottery this week, I may just buy it all.
AAC said at Shot Show they're still doing load development on the 5.45. I got the impression it should be available sometime this year
That's shot show for you. So many companies tease stuff that won't actually be available for like another year.
I'm confused..should I just go ahead and water then clean and lube my rifle after very session? I'm so paranoid about ammo causing my rifle to rust
I've heard that the key hole rounds really did nasty things to the body . Some people preferred them in Nam.
Do u know anything about shooting right handed rifles as a lefty? Any tips?
I desperately need a classic-look AK-74. For that matter, also a classic-look AKM.
I still got a few thousand rounds of Ukrainian 5.45 that came in during covid and a can of 7n6. Hard to bring myself to shoot it like you said. Also, for me, if it's gonna be corrosive it better have some steel core.
My local gun shop is selling Wolf 5.45 for $10 a box of twenty. Said they have near 15k rounds total 🤷🏼♂️ I’d capitalize on it personally if I didn’t have to go out and buy a gun just to shoot it. Not willing to get into a dying caliber 😕
They pack them 30 to a box instead of 20? That's convenient!
Yeah, that used to be very common with a lot of the 545 that came in in the past.
Question about your Molot RPK.
How does the bipod go on/off the barrel? Does the front sight block have to come off to remove the bipod?
I have a Molot Vepr in 54R, side folding skeleton stock, and a 21" barrel. Wanting to get a factory bipod for it but before spending the $ need to know how it goes on.
Thanks and thanks for the Tela ammo review.
Yeah the FSB has to come off to mount the bipod.
Find a pkm or rpd bipod and fit it. Removable with a pin.
Any recommendations on fixing trigger slap my alg trigger does the same
Rather not pay .70 a round for ammo that will rust my expensive 5.45 rifles if I don’t clean them immediately after a range day. It’s too bad, one company getting this stuff and they can’t or won’t ensure the ammo is actually correctly mark.
@RUclips is buffering so bad today. Fix it @RUclips and stop hating on the good channels
best guns ever😊😊😊
If you were getting the new PSA Krink, would you get it in 5.45 or 5.56?
556
Fully semiautomatic right there. Yeah, that ammo is a little sus as far as the corrosion goes
What do you mean by “key holing” and “trigger slap”?
It means the round starts to turn sideways (destabilize) in flight and strikes the target sideways. Creating what looks like a "keyhole", instead of a perfectly round hole. Trigger slap means when the trigger resets. It resets very hard and slaps your finger.
Hey Klay,
Is there some way I can send you a pic of my AK?
FYI......it's a draco micro SBR
What ever happened to PSA's promises of domestic 5.45 production
It’s damn good thing my FFL still has cases of golden tiger and cheaper than that Tela ammo too, i’m also sitting on about 3K rounds of it too