It's very sad, I was a 4th generation born in Jehovah's witness for 30 years. Left 24 years ago. Married a never JW and she raised 3 of my children. She is the light of my life and the joy of my existence.
No humans are supposed to be judging hearts. They were only ever supposed to judge matters in righteousness not whether somebody is honestly repentant or not.
When i was in a bookstudy at around 16/17, there were only two brothers, and a young boy. The rest, were women. When occasions arose that one of the brothers weren't there, the young boy was the only "qualified" reader. 🙄 in spite of the room being full of very intelligent women. One study, he kept reading "organization" as "orgasm". Over and over saying, "Jehovah's perfect orgasm" 😂😭 One night on the way home i asked the sister i rode with, "is this really honoring Jehovah?" That god prefers a child that can barely read over a woman? I also found it irritating whenever a woman prayed with a man in the room, even if he wasn't baptized, she put a napkin or a cover on her head to show "humility for the man". How is that different than the eastern religions? The subjugation was infuriating! It was impossible for me to date, because id typically date friends and the elders would get involved about, "when are you going to get married, are you prepared to treat him as your head?" That actually ruined my friendships because the dynamics changed as my male friends/boyfriends felt pressured to show that they were "taking the lead" soon after, id back off and we'd break up, either mutually or me just in panic mode, feeling oppressed.
Exactly, that head covering was no different from M. East religion😅The stories of OT wasn’t different from their Bible too. Imagine we would had been stoned for not wearing head coverings😮
Some brothers take it upon themselves to make rules. If there is a qualified brother present the sister can put on a head covering and then teach spiritual truths. There are many sisters who are teachers in the congregation and assist with all non-pastoral positions. I have been to congregations where there were no brothers, and the sisters handled the entire meeting. You all need to get the latest information.
Jehovah tried Israel in front of all the congregation, never privately. And Deborah was a judge in Israel sitting in on judicial commissions and passed judgement. Trials were always conducted at the city gates.
Once when I was visiting a hall a couple of hours away, a sweet sister presented me with a gift after going in field service....it was a thin, silky, beautiful aqua patterened scarf. She said it might come in handy when I needed a head covering. I still have it! Maybe I'll get it out and use it for something naughty with my hubby 😏
Strange no one mentioned the subject of submission in a conversation about how women are shaped by Jehovah's Witnesses. I think it ties in with your talk about how men are shaped. Men can often become weak as they have to be submissive. That often leads to the women taking over in the relationship at least privately. When the elders have to do talks about relationship roles it is obvious they are scared of the women. But women have a natural desire to submit; the trouble is men do not know how to lead. They tiptoe around the subject and are apologetic.
Women do not have a “ natural desire to submit” . 2000 years or more of abrahamic faith misogyny has brainwashed a lot of us into accepting overcontrol and disrespect from men.
My first judicial meeting was when I was just turned 15. Only two elders but My father also was there. So still 3 elders 🙈Had to tell very detailed about My first sexual experience 😢😵
I was ceremoniously (made obvious to the whole congregation) taken into the back room at the age of 12 & told that I was tempting the boys with my bony knees showing after a little growth spurt. I was a VERY late bloomer. I was bone thin & flatter than a tortilla, which I was told often. 🙄 My only interest in boys was if I could beat them at sports. I was at least able to keep up. My parents were furious. I was deeply hurt, as a thought like that had never occurred to me. Deeply damaging. And it only got worse from there on.
That is damaging , my mother treated me the same way and she wasn’t a JW but the toxicity is the same . I was also skinny and flat . I looked like the Pink Panther but my toxic parent would make me feel flawed because of her self hating misogyny
Hello I was just wondering about your thumbnail. I know those sisters I grew up with them . I myself left the organization and that’s same congregation they are in. Was there permission granted to use their faces? I would hate to see someone’s reputation distorted from seeing their faces on here.
@Odstrachudowolnosci nie wiesz? Dlaczego?? Przyszlam do org. Aby zobaczyc, dlaczego jest tak malo mezczyzn. patrzylam, obserwowalam I wlos zaczal jezyc sie mi na glowie gdyz zauwazylam pewna procedure; w Polsce chlopcy wdow byli zabierani I studia prowadzili obcy. Ci chopcy robili postepy, chszest, a po chwily juz byli w swiecie. I tak w kolko. Moje prosby do braci starszych I podrozujacego spelzly na niczym. W UK zabierano aby "pomoc" wszystkie dzieci, a nawet od pelnych rodzin I sytuacja sie powtarzala. Tam z kolei nie bylo z kim rozmaeiac, tylko przyklejone usmiechy. Dalam na spokoj.
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It's very sad, I was a 4th generation born in Jehovah's witness for 30 years. Left 24 years ago. Married a never JW and she raised 3 of my children. She is the light of my life and the joy of my existence.
No humans are supposed to be judging hearts. They were only ever supposed to judge matters in righteousness not whether somebody is honestly repentant or not.
When i was in a bookstudy at around 16/17, there were only two brothers, and a young boy. The rest, were women. When occasions arose that one of the brothers weren't there, the young boy was the only "qualified" reader. 🙄 in spite of the room being full of very intelligent women. One study, he kept reading "organization" as "orgasm". Over and over saying, "Jehovah's perfect orgasm" 😂😭 One night on the way home i asked the sister i rode with, "is this really honoring Jehovah?" That god prefers a child that can barely read over a woman? I also found it irritating whenever a woman prayed with a man in the room, even if he wasn't baptized, she put a napkin or a cover on her head to show "humility for the man". How is that different than the eastern religions? The subjugation was infuriating! It was impossible for me to date, because id typically date friends and the elders would get involved about, "when are you going to get married, are you prepared to treat him as your head?" That actually ruined my friendships because the dynamics changed as my male friends/boyfriends felt pressured to show that they were "taking the lead" soon after, id back off and we'd break up, either mutually or me just in panic mode, feeling oppressed.
Exactly, that head covering was no different from M. East religion😅The stories of OT wasn’t different from their Bible too. Imagine we would had been stoned for not wearing head coverings😮
Some brothers take it upon themselves to make rules. If there is a qualified brother present the sister can put on a head covering and then teach spiritual truths. There are many sisters who are teachers in the congregation and assist with all non-pastoral positions. I have been to congregations where there were no brothers, and the sisters handled the entire meeting. You all need to get the latest information.
@@ronhansen8471😂😂😂😂😂😂 all that means is that there are people who behave better than what the governing body commands.
@@ronhansen8471 the only thing that qualifies him is an xy chromosome, nothing else.
Jehovah tried Israel in front of all the congregation, never privately. And Deborah was a judge in Israel sitting in on judicial commissions and passed judgement. Trials were always conducted at the city gates.
I always thought too, sister so and so should be the Elder. The ones I knew was more KIND to elderly than the Elders😅
Once when I was visiting a hall a couple of hours away, a sweet sister presented me with a gift after going in field service....it was a thin, silky, beautiful aqua patterened scarf. She said it might come in handy when I needed a head covering. I still have it! Maybe I'll get it out and use it for something naughty with my hubby 😏
Loved this so many great tips to becoming self aware in coming out into this world and surviving socially 🤪you are all amazing 🫶🏼✌🏼💃
Wow that picture of sisters together with that JW style of dress and smile! It’s universal and it’s actually a MAGIC SPELL, all will look the same😅
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Strange no one mentioned the subject of submission in a conversation about how women are shaped by Jehovah's Witnesses. I think it ties in with your talk about how men are shaped. Men can often become weak as they have to be submissive. That often leads to the women taking over in the relationship at least privately. When the elders have to do talks about relationship roles it is obvious they are scared of the women. But women have a natural desire to submit; the trouble is men do not know how to lead. They tiptoe around the subject and are apologetic.
Thats coming up in PART 2, submission needs its own episode🤣
Women do not have a “ natural desire to submit” . 2000 years or more of abrahamic faith misogyny has brainwashed a lot of us into accepting overcontrol and disrespect from men.
My first judicial meeting was when I was just turned 15. Only two elders but My father also was there. So still 3 elders 🙈Had to tell very detailed about My first sexual experience 😢😵
wow, at 15?
Yikes, how traumatizing
I was ceremoniously (made obvious to the whole congregation) taken into the back room at the age of 12 & told that I was tempting the boys with my bony knees showing after a little growth spurt. I was a VERY late bloomer. I was bone thin & flatter than a tortilla, which I was told often. 🙄 My only interest in boys was if I could beat them at sports. I was at least able to keep up. My parents were furious. I was deeply hurt, as a thought like that had never occurred to me. Deeply damaging. And it only got worse from there on.
That is damaging , my mother treated me the same way and she wasn’t a JW but the toxicity is the same . I was also skinny and flat . I looked like the Pink Panther but my toxic parent would make me feel flawed because of her self hating misogyny
Hello I was just wondering about your thumbnail. I know those sisters I grew up with them . I myself left the organization and that’s same congregation they are in. Was there permission granted to use their faces? I would hate to see someone’s reputation distorted from seeing their faces on here.
How are they shaped?Really badly.
Thank you 🙏
Just a side point Ruby I was your mum lol but sad I’m out my kids still in 🤪
Isaiah 3:16-26
1 Timothy 2:11-15
1 Corinthians 14:33-35
It's quite amusing Jack can't get a word in edgeways lol
2 Timothy 3:3
Titus 2:4
You aren't right saying, that there are more women because women like WJ environment. You are wrong.
Can you explain ?
@Odstrachudowolnosci nie wiesz? Dlaczego?? Przyszlam do org. Aby zobaczyc, dlaczego jest tak malo mezczyzn. patrzylam, obserwowalam I wlos zaczal jezyc sie mi na glowie gdyz zauwazylam pewna procedure; w Polsce chlopcy wdow byli zabierani I studia prowadzili obcy. Ci chopcy robili postepy, chszest, a po chwily juz byli w swiecie. I tak w kolko. Moje prosby do braci starszych I podrozujacego spelzly na niczym. W UK zabierano aby "pomoc" wszystkie dzieci, a nawet od pelnych rodzin I sytuacja sie powtarzala. Tam z kolei nie bylo z kim rozmaeiac, tylko przyklejone usmiechy. Dalam na spokoj.