9 Minutes of Deranged Pokemon Move Logic
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- Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2024
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Hope you enjoyed! What is your favourite example of weird pokemon move logic?
MANY annoying ones. But somehow Lunala, the Legendary of the moon, can’t learn ANY of the moon-related moves?
Wooper learning ice punch
@@BottlenoseTheSeaWinglike moon blast?
@@SightSeeker_1 I dunno, there was some moon move it couldn’t use that was aggravating
Mr. Mime is able to learn Sleep Talk.
...Now do you want to tell me the problem with that?
NGL, Cryogonal using Poison Jab like a spinning saw blade sounds cool
Was tempted to make that the animation at 1st XD But decided to use the silly jabs animation insted. The spin didn't come out well (wich is why all it's points were purple)
"Fear" - ow, can't learn "Brave" Bird... Checks out.
Plus, he learns Drill Peck which is one of the best Flying moves in the game anyways.
Yeah it was basically the king of flying type moves until brave bird came out and so few pokemon can actually learn the move which is really cool
Ok but CroBAT can learn Brave BIRD.
@@christianloder8127 Well I'd imagine as a bat it has to brave birds to fly around.
Fearow can't learn Brave Bird because it has recoil and it fears... the... ow.
1:18 Look at Cryogonals face
bro is a toxic gamer, his personality is the poison
Fun fact: Kingler can learn High Horsepower. If you've read its dex entries, this is the best full circle joke Gamefreak has made.
THE HORSE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION
I assume its bases on the force of the large pincer being measured in quantities of horsepower?
So, just to clarify, Kingler is a horse?
So would riding Kingler while facing where you're going count as riding side saddle. 🤔
For those too lazy to look it up, multiple of Kingler's pokedex entries mention its bigger claw having a force of 10,000 horsepower
Fearow
> Is a Bird
> Can’t learn ‘Brave Bird’
Well, looks like it isn’t a very brave bird
It's fear not brave.
imagine hear a roar in midnight just to see its an smoll earth rat🗿🗿
"Dad? What's that sound?"
"Don't worry honey it's the neighbor's rattata"
"What"
a small*
@@k1xk11 i just change it to make it more funny
@@DarkraiEPIC oki but the 'an' is still wrong tho :)
The Horse Council shall watch this with great interest
the only reason i watch jimothy cool videos
Magcargo will not allow anyone to take their high horsepower
Famed horses Mewtwo and Ursaluna included.
me :) (user joke)
Ah yesss, Sssandaconda, my favourite horssse.
If you'd ever gotten hit by a pineapple, you would not ask how swablu could hurt you despite weighimg the same.
8:39 Wooper learning ice punch left the chat
As a wise ant once said, "Wooper IS the fist"
They actually retconed this in Scarlet/Violet as Wooper can no longer learn it (Gastly still can)
@@coltonandjen
Gastly can form hands.
and Black Kyurem can't
To me, it makes sense Aggron learns Surf
Early gen kaijus had a massive elemental coverage consisting of Surf, Flamethrower, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam and it's stronger yet inaccurate variants (minus Hydro Pump). This benefited some of them a lot in the short or long run, like Mixed Tyranitar, or modern day Sheer Force Nidoking.
Heck, Groudon learns Thunderbolt and Thunder if you're interested.
Ikr just look at Rhydon it's always been able to learn Surf and it's 4x weak to water. Another fun fact it couldn't learn a Rock move by level up until gen III 😅
groudon learning a move that its ability actively neuters is way too funny
@@slimestudios9748 If you ran some mixed sets, it would actually be beneficial as Thunder chunks down a Kyogre switching in.
@@agr0nianTVAnd rhinos swim IRL, so at least it makes sense. Though why you'd want to run Surf with Rhydon having 45 SpA is beyond me.
@@theserpent8667 In Gen 1 it serves the purpose of getting the advantage on the Rhydon mirror, and mirrors are very common there
Though you'd rather use Blizzard as it has the Freeze chance and serves on other matchups like Exeggutor
The Sinistea line can’t learn Scald. I think this one takes the cake 💀
The japanese move names are different, they aren't exact translations. That's why the logic is weird in english for anyone wondering
Yea, like how most flying types somehow learn heatwave, the japanese name for the move is like hot wind.
My favourite example of this is aerial ace which is learned by a load of non flying Pokémon. It's Japanese name translates to swallow return which is a sword technique so you too can learn aerial ace.
@@_Sinduss Dugtrio can learn aerial ace💀
DIGLET CAN LEARN SCRACH WITHOUT ARMS!
you can argue they are just not visible, and is also pretty funny to imagine white glowing claws sticking out of the ground out of nowhere when he uses the move
It has claws they're always hidden
Then if we find the og diglett drawings, we will see its arms, I think.
Instead of monster under the bed that will grab your feet, the pokemon universe has digglet under the bed that will scratch you
@metagross6897 I'll take a sleep paralysis demon over a Diglett using "Scratch."
Idk, if a flying pineapple decided to drop from the sky on my head, I’d probably take a good bit of damage
Fearow is a bird…
But its a FEARow so it can’t be a BRAVE bird 😂
8:28 maybe because the bugs it eats struggle during that? idk that’s the only explanation I can think of 😂
2:04 well it's not brave enough
4:42
Thank you for being able to tell that if you play it with your hands its not football
It's soccer.
@hardspumoni6940 you brain dead if you play it with your foot it'd football you must be American
@@hardspumoni6940soccer is shorthand for Association Football. Just so you know clown
in both football and soccer you dont use your hands unless you are a goalkeeper
thus its football obviously?
feather dance for frosmoth might be referencing the feather like scales that make up its wings
Birds slam their bodies against the windows...
Yeah really any pokemon should learn body slam.
@@calebehhh-jx7ic I meant the lore
Yeah but the usual logistics behind it doing so much damage and paralyzing the targets is because the user is big/heavy enough to crush someone
@@Pearl_Blossom How about the shocking reaction when an unexpected bird hits a window? I'd be surprised 😮
@@Mojaveknight17 you know what that's funny so I'll accept it lmao
Ahh yes spheal great creator of earthquakes
The Spheal Team Six would beg to disagree.
3:24 Erm about the moth thing☝️🤓. If you ever grabbed one irl and looked at your hand you'd notice small hairs on it. So it sort of makes sense on how it could use feather dance, but in this case it wouldnt actually be feathers.
Note: Not sure if theres any species that DONT have that weird hair stuff, but the ones I've grabbed do.
(Dagger moths and another species)
3:02 that's not a u-turn, that's a donut
Fearow can't learn Brave Bird becasue it is a vulture and vultures are scavengers meaning they are fearful and careful and only eat food left behind instead of hunting and aren't brave.
ok, then why can mandibuzz who is also even more clearly a vulture learn it? also fearows dex entry; "Its long neck and beak allow it to pluck prey from both land and water, and it has even been known to steal from unwary humans. It will shoot upward, and then dive down to catch prey. It will also catch tiny insects that hide underground and circle the ocean for fish.'' so they arent scavengers at all theyre active predators.
because the pokedex is full of bs. Remember Marcago? Whos body is twice as. hot as the surface of the sun@@unkindled6410
they should make a move for the cowardly birds & call it "craven raven"
@@Candle_eater7685 because youre trying to apply a feeble logic that the dumb devs at pokemon didnt thought at all and still just very inconsistent and failed logic even if they went for that one you just said.
@@Candle_eater7685 it is a far more reasonable explanation that it means its a fearsome species more than anything. Because the giant bird of prey looking mofo who in its smaller form already angrily ganked randon mons and people, than i presume its fully grown form is also a menance to society.
Time for some logic behind some of these movepool choices.
Grimmsnarl/Growlithe: Snarl and Growl, as with nearly all sound based moves, work by being a sudden change in the disposition of the pokemon using it. Grimmsnarl as the name implies is nearly always snarling meaning it loses out on being an unexpected sudden change. Similarly Growlithe, being in a constant growl, would have its growl ultimately ineffective.
Swablu: with body slam despite its weight being equal to a pineapple: Coconuts only weigh about 1.4 KG and by them falling kill roughly 150 humans per year.
Aggron: These bad bois just lay on their back and use their Iron Tails like trolling motors. So, 10/10 that is a good boat.
Revavarroom: Based on their design the weight is mainly in the back. If one were to attempt a high speed U-turn, centripetal force dictates that the back would not be able to turn as sharply causing it to go spinning out.
High-Horsepower: Every pokemon mentioned has part of their design that can leave a horseshoe shape imprint on its target.
Camerupt: Clouds form via water vapor sticking to dust particles in the atmosphere, volcanic erupts tend to send a lot of dust into the atmosphere.
Ho-oh: Granted the legendary beasts great power on being revived. Revival Blessing only brings back one pokemon at half health. Asking for a god-like being easily capable of resurrecting someone stronger than they have ever been too, try CPR instead would be extremely insulting.
It's almost as if ho-oh used it's sacred Ash to revive them
How is BARBOACH leaving a horseshoe print??
@@foisopracurtir6389Barboach can have its entire body become a horseshoe shape. The same applies to Orthworm & Slugma.
@@Straven93Exactly, Sacred Ash's existence as an item in pokemon which Ho-Oh holds when being caught between generation 2~7 & fully revives and heals your entire party is reason enough for Ho-Oh to not need a much inferior form of revival. It hasn't existed since gen 8 because Ho-Oh has been using it to bring the pokemon lost through Dex-it back into the games.
High horsepower has nothing to do with horseshoes, the moves description read, "The user fiercely attacks the target using its entire body". Its basically a form of slamming full force into someone. All of the pokemon shown have a good reason as to why they'd slam full force into someone
Kilowattrel cannot learn raind dance, despite YOU NEEDING ITS FEATHERS TO MAKE THE TM
Emboar Can learn Scald as well 6:12
For cooking it’s ramen to bulk up
0:34 Pokeemon Shiord
Sacred sword can learned by a multitude of pokemon...
Including...
oshawatt (yes i know it evolves into samurott)
Fearow one makes sense 😂
How can he be brave enough to learn brave bird when he has FEAR in his name 😂
Of course Slugma is a horse, his father is on the Horse Council after all.
Hippopotas couldn't learn Dig in D/P/P (only got it in HGSS), despite burying in the sand being its line's whole shtick.
Heliolisk took 3 generations to access Solar Beam and Sunny Day despite being a walking solar panel.
Rotom was never able to learn Cut. In older generations where you could still use Cut to remove tall grass patches, you still could not use Rotom-Mow to cut the grass, despite it being a living lawnmower.
More classic ones include Zubat being able to use Mean Look without eyes , or Wooper in Gen2 being able to use Dynamic Punch without hands.
I always thought in zubat's case, mean look was "look" in the "steal his look" sense, so rather than looking at the opponent in a mean way, it makes itself look mean to its opponent.
“they only gave out the move to appropriate candidates, like spheal” hahaha
3:50 A certain Jimothy Cool is an expert on this topic
You want to know something fun? Aggron can learn Aerial Ace.
So many of these are stretches. It's obvious that the moth feather dance was based on it's antenna.
No one would expect a rain dance from the camel 😂
Raikou getting Scald in gen 8 is weird, so weird that you could argue that it wasn’t intentional… until you realize that Raikou still gets Scald in gen 9. You know, the same gen that took Scald away from many Pokémon.
Yeah, because a turtle with cannons on its back makes no sense being able to shoot out boiling water, but an electric tiger? Oh yeah, that makes perfect sense.
I think because it has a rain cloud on its back idk
The taking away of scald was a balance decision as both Singles a and VGC players complained about it. Also it has a thunder cloud on its back and lighting is hotter than the sun.
@@costby1105 good explanation for hot water, I couldn’t rationalize that
Actually sacred sword is learned by many, Secret Sword is only learned by the quartet. Also Wooloo doesn’t learn rollout
sacred sword was given to kartana and then to oshawott line in gen7 as well as aegislash himself in gen6 before it then got given to Gallade and Chien Pao (fittingly) so it kinda already lost its signature move completly, however its not unheard of legendaries stealing signature moves of ''common'' pokemon, take Lunala learning Nightdaze for example. honestly it feels kinda cool in theme, but balance wise and uniqueness factor wise its indeed kinda lame, but at the same time some signature moves should had been a regular move to be given to a lot of mons who desperately need something like that.
Thumbnail isn't dumb logic... Fearow's iconic trait is not being brave. How could you forget this?
But it's still a bird.......
@@DreamDthecursekingcrobat can learn brave bird, getting brave bird is more about being brave than being a bird
@@DreamDthecurseking Bird is the word
But not the only word, brave is as well
Inciniroar, having Roar in its name, cannot learn Roar.
(But that's probably for the best 😅)
Glad to have worked with you on this! it came out lovely!
Well maybe that bird isn’t brave enough
4:47 From an American, I say: rightfully so
The one that still gets me is that Mr. Mime can learn infestation in Gen 7.
enti isnt the only legendary with a move choice that will make you go *ad* Cheetos mac n cheese
How did you predict the ad i got
The Fake Tears one got me good, no rolling on the ground dramatically for Cinderace!
Staraptor learning Struggle Bug is clearly some kind of coding error
Staraptor is full of parasites
Just like Great Tusk learning Psyshock
@@christianloder8127 yeah
*Cryogonal with Attract and Beheyeem with Steel Wing has left the chat*
@@Hyuduro Beheyeem with steel wing happens because it is the TM51, at black, white and sequels this TM wasn't steel wing, but they changed the moved so know it is like that
I havent heard extra thicc in so long
“Moths do not have feathers” yes and ice cream does not have eyes
You know, i used to love playing Pokemon Shiord and pokemon Moun as a kid. Amazing games, the both of them.
WHO TURNED YOU 2D?!
Rip Mii Hmaz
my bad💔😔
@@MightBeMillaplease fix him back
@@luckyinky7849OH NO THEY DIED SO THEY CANNOT CHANGE THEM BACK!!!!!!!!!
THAT’S WHAT I THOUGHT WHY ISNT’T ANYONE MENTIONING IT
wooper used ice punch...somehow.
Wooper is the ice punch
true
Wooper's head is the fist
Apparently spiel is heavier than a little two beast that summons volcanoes when it barks 6:01
Grimmsnarl makes sense, the move Snarl is snarl as in scream, but the snarl in Grimmsnarl is snarl as in entangling.
The person who named growlithe probably wanted the sound they made in the name but had dementia and forgot so they took and took a stab in the dark and guessed that it growls
you forgot that digglet can also learn scratch and and slash
It's a MOLE, wackable but still...
Kinda sad you did not put the "kyurem with 2 ice-arms can not learn ice punch but wooper can" meme tho
*Black Kyurem
I also thought that the reason why it can't learn it is because normal Kyurem can't learn it to begin with so why would Black Kyurem be able to? Just look at normal Kyurem's tiny arms, what is it supposed to punch with such tiny arms? It's kinda based on a T-rex hence the tiny arms. That was always my reasoning and it kinda makes sense.
I didnt even realise Fearow was designed to be a bird, thats interesting!
All jokes aside, i like the Pokepark music you put in very nice
Pokepark background music is making me very happy
I will NEVER stop saying it...
Beheeyem can learn Steel Wing.
Pretty sure that was just either a oversight or them being cheeky because steel wing was tm 51 as in area 51
from my understanding steel wing was not originally tm51 in Gen 5 and in later Generations steel wing became tm51 but they never changed that in their moveset code
@@UmbraAxolotl in gen 5 tm 51 was ally swap.
Struggle Bug's description: "The user attacks by struggling against opposing Pokémon. This also lowers their Sp. Atk stats."
I see no reason why most Pokemon wouldn't be able to learn this.
The reasoning is that it's something that they do
You've ever been smacked with a pineapple? Yeah body slam on swablu makes sense
2:50 WAIT there’s a CAR Pokemon?!
Gen 9
Cinderace not learning fake tears and foul play is a travesty
I mean..... a pineapple on the head would be hurtful 😅...
He just wasn't brave enough 😂
I was not prepared for default dragon dance
The game freak employees let the food go cold
Cinderace had me rolling 💀
Fearow doesnt learn brave bird bc its scared, hence it's name
Honestly, "Brave bird" users have to be brave, and fearow is... FEARow
LMAO Cinderace not a real footballer 😂😂😂
Garchomp: Is said to move faster than fighter jets
Also Garchomp: Can't learn Extreme Speed (or ANY Priority attacking move)
u-turn's original name is tonbogaeri meaning something like "dragonfly return", hence its bug typing and revavroom not learning it
The Horse Council has been thrown into complete disarray. This is insane folks.
ho oh having revival blessing makes so much sense and it really should have it
6:28 is funny because of the sound that raikou makes
I don't mind the long form vids I prefer it over shorts but I like you because it you don't do the youtuber thing of going around the bush
Well it can’t learn BRAVE bird cause it’s a FEARrow
Well, then, do you want a bottle o water?
forgot dugtrio can learn sucker punch without arms
It's japanese name is just "surprise attack". Really has nothing to do with punching. Kinda like the Growlithe and Grimmsnarl thing, those aren't their original names.
This reminds me of the fact that in spite of Copperajah being an ELEPHANT coated in Copper, she can somehow know Supercell Slam and High Horsepower. Despite not being
- An electric type
- A horse
You could argue that because Copper is conductive, this is why she can know Supercell Slam, but this is the only Electric type move she can know by TM.
4:41 As a 'MURRICANNN I approve of this moment
Insert "is this a pigeon?" Meme here
4:43 WTF IS A KILOMETEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRR 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
To be fair about the move High Horsepower, it’s about something that’s super strong and the attack SHOWS that it’s horsepower specifically. So it could like attack with a strong slam or kick. Doesn’t explain why Barboach can learn it though, unless it’s really strong.
And often times, Pokémon can have abilities outside of their moves in the anime. Ho-Oh being a prime example.
Vullaby's dex info says that it can't fly yet it can learn the HM Fly.
Guys I'm sorry but 🤣1:01🤣
Fun fact: Rain dance increases the accuracy of Electric attacks to 100%.
That's why pretty much every electric type learns it. Rain dance and thunder
Only thunder not other electric moves
4:50 football related moves being dive, fake tears and foul play ah yes
Fearow not learning brave bird makes perfect sense
Look at the name Fear-ow
He isnt a brave bird, hes a coward
1:09 It could swoop like Falcons
Wooper can learn both ice punch and dynamic punch by TM in gen two. It can also learn Rock smash in gen 3/4 by HM and gen 5 by TM
it's unbelievable
Speaking of Revival Blessing it's weird that Brambleghast doesn't get it since it evolves the same way as Rabsca and Pawmot do. I'm it's because it's a ghost type, but is still unfair :/
Kyurem is a big Ice type legendary pokemon with arms and hands(At least in it's Blacke Kyurem form)but can't learn Ice punch while Gastly and Wooper a small pokemon that don't have arms and hands can learn Ice punch
Wingull can learn shock wave for some reason