They perhaps didn't know what all phones were being given. Sayan really understood the s24 U, but anyone can struggle a bit if blinded and any random phone can be given out of context.
They didn't know the phone being given to them. And it's hard on a blindfold. Some thought the Redmi to be iPhone due to the camera module placement. It's tricky when you don't know the phones.
Not really dude, no. 20K phones are not good enough. It will only satisfy those who don't know what they can get for more. In that case even old noika phones will be enough. See the word here is satisfy, and not fulfill the need.
25,000 is adequate. 50,000 should be the limit. Anything above that doesn't make your life better. A phone can't solve your problems, rather get didcated devices for other tasks.
@@Crownking999nope. I used budgets to flagships. It doesn't make anything easier than a 30k phone. Infact camera enthusiasts can also get a good camera phone at 40k. No need to go for more.
One of the best videos. I wished u have added a 45-50k gstrgory as well. However, I agree s24 ultra is exorbitantly expensive (bang for bucks) and a $400-500 phone can easily give you 90% of the features and satisfaction of using a flagship
I've never thought about my career and future as much I've thought about which phone I should buy. This is coming from a person who just uses mobile for just calls and few good pictures sometimes. I still couldn't decide on what to buy even after thinking for 6 to 7 months. Still using my 6year old vivo phone
Bruh I've also put more thought into which phones to buy rather than what type of girls to date. And trust me I've dated many questionable girls 🤣 at least my phones have lasted longer than my relationships
Same here... Waiting for my special phone ... I don't know which one it will be... Am watching thousands of videos of different brands and every day am switching from one brand to other brand.... 🥹
Personally I feel that anything between 30k-45k should be good enough for most people. Anyone who feels that this is lacking can go for the 60k-70k segment but people should always keep in mind that you should only for the higher segment if you can afford it. If you cannot afford it, do not even touch them.
If you go for 30-50k Samsung A series, FE series its like creamy sweet spot for most of crowd as they all provide flagship feature except 1 or 2 like samsung dex etc. And now samsung is giving longer android update and security updates. S21 FE 5g i think it's the best all rounder phone with up to android 16 updates. So best go for 30k to 40k the sweetest spot
@@funindia6666 True but I personally feel that going for an almost 3 year old device is not the best decision especially when there are other newer and better devices in the segment like the Pixel 7a for example.
@@pranavsomayajula52657a have trash processor. S21 Fe with 888 is far superior and 888 version is just 1 year old with 2 Major updates still left. Not bad deal even in 2024
Frankly if you need a phone for basic use like calls whatsapp browsing 20k should be the Max budget. Whereas any phone under 60k would have almost 90% of features compared to its own flagship. If you have the money of course then paying 1.5 lakhs won't be an issue.
The phone under 20k we know are the budget one and won't complain much about it, but phone under 20-30k always makes people wanting for more in one or more area, the best bang for money with little compromise are the phones between 40-60k where you can prioritize your need if you want brand go for S/Fe Series or Oneplus, for cameras go for S-series or Pixel series or for gaming Iqoo Series.
25-40k is the sweet spot right now, where with the Moto Edge, Poco F, and all the way to Samsung S FE series, you can get good performance, and nearly all flagship features. But once you cross 40k, the features you get per extra 5k you spend starts decreasing. I feel 60-80k for a true flagship can make sense. (if someone suggests me OnePlus12, I am gonna chase you with a pitchfork)
@@ptbauro alright my comment was a bit too dramatic, and the phone is good overall, but I wanna point out that it lacks heavily in the camera department. I might sound weird or irrational, but please hear me out and read till the end. Also, I am open to healthy discussion, and wanna start off by saying that OnePlus 12 is an amazing comeback by OnePlus, and I hope they keep improving every year! So, I liked the specs on paper and went to the store to check the camera performance, as that's my only concern. I compared it to my 3 year old S20 FE and I saw that although the OP12 has all the Hasselblad tuning, the photos on my phone were sharper and had better colour accuracy, even on zooming in. I think the OnePlus camera would compare better to the likes of Moto Edge series, which are also reallly good phones overall, but lack in the camera department. So I say a true flagship should nail all the parameters, especially when you are paying 70k for it, which is not a small amount. And a three year old phone beating the camera, while being sold under half the price, it doesn't feel good, and made me cancel my idea of upgrading to it. (Cuz the processors are still holding up well, and unless you are regularly gaming or video editing on your phone, even 7+ Gen 1 and 865 phones are good enough) One more thing to point out is that the Oxygen OS being plagued by Oppo's Color OS will always cause uncertainty regarding the future of the phone's OS. Cuz my previous Poco F1 got two major software upgrades, and with the last one, it got super slow and buggy to the point that I had to upgrade to a Samsung (which also I would have never thought before given to the previous slow and laggy Samsungs I used) and have never regretted since. All I gotta say is, you should decide phones according to your priorities and preferences, and don't just go with the flow. I am also keeping an open mind, and who knows, maybe if the OnePlus 'Flagship' has a good camera, even if it keeps everything else the same, I might get it!
Thoughts on Nothing Phone 2...is 12GB 256GB for 35K worth it or not? I'm looking for an all rounder phone .. Good camera....medium gaming...Good UI...budget is 40K
Totally worth it, if you edit your photos before sharing. Been using it since launch, haven't faced any other issue other than the cameras being just too neutral@@bhanulohani6215
0:24 Didn't know E-sim was a *flagship* feature. After some time, these people will also say that lack of headphone jack and expandable storage is also a flaship *feature*
I'd say get something with 120Hz AMOLED + SoC with 1M+ Antutu + >3 yr updates + reasonable build quality and waterproofing. 40-50K is the sweet spot if you're planning to use you phone for at least 4 years. If you're planning to use it for 3 yrs, 30-35K is the sweet spot. Anything beyond 50K is ridiculous, unless you need some specific flagship feature for productivity and generate income from it.
My 17k Realme XT lasted for 4 years. And I used to play heavy games like Ark and Genshin Impact on it. Most people aren't going to do that so even 30k is way too overkill. 20-25k will get you mostly everything you'd need.
Phones are not for productivity. Never expect that from phones. If we exclude a few necessities like calls whatsapp, it is toy. So if you are to decide your budget keep this in mind.
This video idea is great. Hope you will do a version 2/season 2 some time in the future. It would be great if you include more phones to represent more brands/budgets. And also, the blind tests could be done to some guests or people at a mall/public place who doesn't know much about tech/phones.
Moto Edge 40 is really a bang for the buck. For just 28k you get a curved display, 144 hrtz display, great camera, IP68 rating, wireless charging, 64 watt wire charging, near stock android with no bloatware, Thinkshield protection. It's a win win!
No my friends edge 40 got a amoled screen burn in the clock widget area hence he changed the display so its not a win The aim is to use it with no complaints for more period of time Hence it fails
Many years back I switched from a flagship Mi phone to a budget Redmi. I realized that it is difficult to adjust since the quality in certain elements(camera, general performance) starts to drop. In the Android world, getting a flagship makes sense since you get updates, and even without updates the hardware/software will still hold up for the next 3-4 years. Even if the battery life takes a hit, you can change the battery and it will be as good as new. So after you 4 years, when you choose to upgrade, the features get more recognizable. This is why reviewers should always compare new releases with releases from the previous gen since most flagship phones have already matured and year-on-year upgrades are pretty pointless.
What If ..? it is promotional video people go for moto edge 40 definitely instead going for a budget above one lakh ..middle class people are prefer midrange phones especially
In the display test you covered the sensors and hence S24ultra was dim. You should have turned autobrightness off and taken all the phones on max brightness
There should also have been a 50-60k phone like a oneplus/vivo flagship because they are legit as good as 1L+ phones in all departments except maybe the cameras but the vivo flagships are said to be as good as samsungs in camera also. Secondly I think some phones could have been chosen which get very heavy sales discount and completely change their price tier Like the pixel 7 which was available for 35k in sales or the s21 fe which was available for 30k in sales These phones I think compete way better with s24 but I guess techwiser went for the MSRP prices
I see less and less people are taking about buying 1-2 year old flagships. Those for me gives the best value. If you buy a mid range phone, you compromise on a lot of things, however an old flagship gives you a premium experience in a lower cost. Very less people needs latest and greatest chips or technology, and i would argue even sd888 can get any day to day work done without any kinds of problem. Be wise when buying new phones and look for premium experience but at a lower cost.
@@poopsickle2411 i don't know what is your need from a phone, what is more important to you, do you need a better battery, then you might don't want to go with Samsung, but otherwise everything is best with Samsung - the camera is amazing, the UI is the best out there, good support, screen is the best and also the build quality. If you want then you can go with S21 FE sd888. It's under 30k and a killer phone at this price point.
The sad part is that no manufacturer is looking to make compact smartphones under budget like S23 or IPhone 13 size types ... I don’t want have a hammer size phone hanging in my side pocket .... too uncomfortable for me to hold and use in daily life
Bro hardware security is most imp these days if we get that in a 30-40k range with great cameras then definitely its a big yes at that price. Always discuss hardware security thats a really really extra premium feature
See, its not about flagships, but the processors. They matter in the long run. Cheap procesors will inevitably show their downsides after a couple of years, while the current or older flagship processors will still hold up (I have a 2019 Oneplus 7 Pro and it still holds up like it did in 2019). My suggestion would be to spend a premium on a reliable phone with a good processor + software, to be able to use it for atleast 5 years. 40-50k would be that sweetspot (for those who can afford, ofcourse).
Best option is buying older flagships for discounted prices. Those are a notch above latest mid rangers in almost every aspect except maybe raw performance.
30k is sweet spot for me. I bought OP 6 for around 28k and used it for 3 years, next was OP Nord 2 - decent phone but i didn't like the color OS based OOS. Now im using Nothing Phone (1) and I'm totally satisfied with it - works smooth despite only having mid range processor. I can easily use it for 4 years.
under 40k is sweet spot. like nothing phone 2 , oneplus 12r, iqoo neo 7 pro. no lag in performance, fast charging, good cameras, 3 updates. 35-40k is perfect price
a 20k phone would satisfy most buyers, I am a guy who has used a 15k Redmi Note 5 pro for 6 years straight. I guess you can buy a mid range phone, but you have to put the due diligent work to use it properly and take care of it like anything else. Ocassional clean-ups, not letting the battery go below 20% or not over charging it. etc
How do some peoples phone run so well even after years. Just after 2 years mine starts lagging here and there and in 3 it goes into "I don't want to use it but have to" category.
Some people defend premium phones stating that the camera is way better in flagship phones. 1. It's actually not (watch MKBHD's blind camera test) 2. You can buy an actual camera and a good phone for over 1 lakh
@@ItachiUchia-uj2yn I have proper info of custom ROMs, but I stopped using them since now I have no free time to sit down and take backups before every small update.
I agree with you 100% My resolution: Buy the flagship when it depreciates to that price range. I'll be switching from my current Z fold 3 to the s23+ shortly. Next up would most likely be the s25+ or s24 Ultra if the s25+ did not get the s24 ultra screen.
Nope the sweet spot is 40-50k where you can get most of the flagship true features unlike gimmick or not usuable features like curved screen and IP ratings good cameras and good software updates would be any day better than curved screen or IP rating(you can't claim warranty on water damaged even though your is rated with IP ratings), as 25-30k comes with 7-series processor for majority of the phones, cameras are just good in numbers, software wise not great, if you spend around 40-45k you can get a Nothing phone amazing built and clean android, Fe series phone good cameras and software updates, Pixel 7 flagship cameras clean android, Oneplus 11 good brand and good performance, IQOO 12 at 50k latest flagship processor, good cameras and built, and around 50k the people's favourite last gen iphone number series in big billion day.
U echo my thoughts. I had d same opinion after looking at smartphones in all d diff price ranges. A very gud vdo for someone trying to make sense of d confusion in d smartphone world!
If your needs are following 1. Calls 2. WhatsApp 3. Internet browsing 4. Decent photos - by decent I mean for functional purpose and not use phone as a camera to click amazing pictures wherever you go 5. Good software experience Then there are phones in 15-20k segment which can be used for at least 3-4 years
sweet spot is 40k to 50k but if u have never used a flagship phone u wont be able to tell the diffrence its like a addiction, once u use the flagship u cant go back after using my dads iphones and S series samsungs my whole life, the lowest ive gone is nothing phone and ik it doesnt perform but idc, animations are smooth, it doesnt add cheep sharpness to videos, and most importantly it doesnt blur my face while trying to brighten it, which my mom's edge 20 ultra always does. and plus i get good updates, i got android 14 on my phone 2 before myy dad's S22ultra. and my mom's edge 20 ultra never got it. good batery too btw
I say 30 to 50k is the best range....bcoz u are not doing any code for chandrayaan with the phone right(I am not saying below 30k is worst...it's like If u have the budget...buy in the range of 30 to 50k)
Just 2 things I would say:- (1) Find the category of your budget- if u got big big budget you can have all of the features and can have the best phone in every aspect or (2) If you have the sweet spot budget as mentioned, you better shortlist your priorities according to your daily need on basis of which a meaningful decision can be made
The ''Value'' axis is too vague as it is variable...on the other hand, price is properly quantified - so, my sweet spot would not be same as someone else's. If we put - ''Average FPS in Genshin Impact in lowest settings'' in the ''Y'' axis...this would be much accurate chart for those who value performance over everything else. Similarly, you would have to make multiple graphs for Camera Quality, User XP, etc. The main thing is to define value as specifically as possible.
Nothing but creating a FoMo and pushes you to increase your budget, even if a 10-15k phone fulfills your requirements. Choose by yourself, not the RUclipsrs. They already got their commission or fee.
Hey TW, on one side you mentioned LCD for the other two hence better than Redmi12 & then say AMOLED >> LCD? Did you mean budget? Not very clear what you wanted to say. Refer 4:30 to 4:40 In another video too this kind of lack of clarity on your view. In a recorded video misplacing the words (by mistake of course) can confuse people. Thanks for the videos, they are helpful.
Bro, For build quality you should also include a drop test & dip test, otherwise the build quality section is incomplete. The real world durability should also be tested I feel.
Nice video, but it would be better if you compared phones of 3 price segment of the same brand . Samsung has phones in almost all the budget ranges and it could be a great idea
It's not just about salary. If something satisfies you or gives you happiness, there's no problem spending a little extra for it. I like traveling, so I don't mind spending money there. But it would bother me to spend on Gucci or Hermes.
also reliability, My dada XR is closing 5 years and even if he put it in exchange rn, it would fetch 12k that too excluding the exchange bonus, in a 5 year window I've changed 2~3 phones which summed up to more or less the same price
1) choose what kind of phone you NEED what specs you really NEED like do you need a clean UI or it doesn't matter to you, do you need 5G or 4G will work for you etc 2) buy the cheapest phone available with those specs (try buying higher RAM Storage variant so your phone last long)
This is the reason why samsung FE series is a gem during the BBD sales. You will get the flagship level processors, Dynamic Amoled 2X Display, IP68 water resistance, 3X telephoto lens, 4K@60fps video recording, wireless charging, 4 years of software support, Stereo speakers etc, pretty all the flagship level features under 35K₹.
You forgot to mention "S21 FE". With 4 years of Android update this phone is still relevant if we compare with other Chinese brands.. I mean the Snapdragon Variant is a gem model.. Fantastic Camera, Outstanding performance, Samsung OneUI experience.
I would say max 20k. No matter what you buy how much ever expensive there are certain risks. you may accidentally drop it, it may get stolen while travelling, i have seen my friends get samsung and other flagship phones with curved display and drop it accidentally having to replace a screen which cost 20-30k so they buy a budget phone instead. ( a good boxy phone with bumper case and a edge to edge screenguard has been letting me extend durability of my devices and prevent damage for years) I had a realme 3 pro lasted 4 years, got it for 10K, recently upgraded to redmi 12 pro, 19K with offers.
I've been using Samsung m30s for 4.5 years now. Bought it for like 13k or so after using S4, Nexus, OnePlus 3t & 7t. Still don't feel the need to upgrade now considering the performance is still quite stable. Only issue is the camera & bloatware. Samsung software experience drives me crazy. So looking to go for another mid range.
Buying mid range phone is too much of a headache. Too much competition from every brand. People would probably waste so many hours, if not days, to watch tech videos to select the mobile. In my opinion, if you can afford, it is best to get a basic iPhone model of previous year's edition. Will get for a less price and won't be far behind the current year one. No competition and save a lot of time without needing to compare to other mobile phones. Camera will be good anyways and no need to think of an upgrade for a few years.
I have put myself and my family members through a habit of buying ₹30,000 to ₹35,000/- Phone, every 3.5 to 4 years, as per requirement. That being said, I also take care of exchanging my old device with the newer one so as to maintain the overall cost of my new phone within 35K. It is not inexpensive for a phone but absolutely worth it considering the recent trend of phones getting more and more pricey!
I guess the difference is also that a flagship phones age better.. it's the software or the quality of the hardware, mid range and budget phones get a bit slow after a year of usage. Which is not the case with an iPhone. You get a premium experience for the 3 years you use it. Also something like an iPhone has a much better ecosystem with airpods and apple watch. The brand value of an iPhone makes a difference
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I have a S21 FE that I got for a huge discount almost 2 years back, and samsung's own software update killed it with a white line and charging port not working anymore. Now it's in service center and Samsung has a free display replacement policy but in reality they are not honouring it. So now i'm arguing with service center people from 20 days for replacement for my 35,000 phone. I think they will reject the free replacement and my phone will become useless. What is the point of 5 year updates if phone dies before completing 2 years lol. Next time im just gonna stick to below 20k phones.
Bought the Moto Edge 40 with Vegan leather back and boy is this phone a ✨bang for the buck✨... Motorola a company i didn't even care existed has turned me into a fan boy with just one phone... I have an eye out for the sweet sweet Moto Razr next...
Bhai 1 baar sirf mobile girne de. Screen ya kuch b tutega na fir pata chalega service kesi h. I m from mumbai and I hate moto services joh mehenge rate pe parts naye kharidne padenge fir pata chalega .😢
*Bro, you should have included the IQOO 12 or the OnePlus 12... As there is a huge price gap between Edge 40 and s24 ultra... And those phones also offers flagship features at lower price...*
Bro which phone should I buy, my preference 1.camera 2. Long term phone 3.ui 4.battery 5.performance Do not have a fixed budget, but want a value for money smartphone. Only want to buy a phone from a non Chinese brand
Also bro loved this video You forgot one important part though Charging speeds. Moto offers 67W I think and the edge 30 ultra actually offers 125W as well Realme 11 pro plus at 27k offering 100w is tremendous vfm and also Redmi note 13 pro plus
The general rule is that you should not spend more than 1 month's salery on a smartphone. If you're buying a bike, then 3 months' salary and if a car then 1 year salery. So what ever phone falls under your 1 month salery, that is your budget.
For cameras I think the main thing is software. Though 1 lakh phones get slightly better sensors, 80% of it is software. If it is the same/similar software why don't they provide with lower budget phones. Business tactics to sell more of the flagship phones as they have the highest profit margins. They could potentially add the software to budget phones, as post processing app. They have been saying AI camera from ages. But don't see drastic improvements
No point of the blind test though - The camera modules give it away anyway!
Consider that a source of entertainment 😂
They perhaps didn't know what all phones were being given. Sayan really understood the s24 U, but anyone can struggle a bit if blinded and any random phone can be given out of context.
true
They didn't know the phone being given to them. And it's hard on a blindfold.
Some thought the Redmi to be iPhone due to the camera module placement. It's tricky when you don't know the phones.
Blind test the camera too and see the pixel winning
even 20K phones will satisfy 70% of the consumers
Not really dude, no. 20K phones are not good enough. It will only satisfy those who don't know what they can get for more. In that case even old noika phones will be enough.
See the word here is satisfy, and not fulfill the need.
Except cameras
Real
chup tmkc kool banne ki koshish kar rhaa bkl jaada@@abhishekkr4004
Naah.....Naah 😒
25,000 is adequate. 50,000 should be the limit. Anything above that doesn't make your life better. A phone can't solve your problems, rather get didcated devices for other tasks.
Maybe it's makes more things easier
exa ?@@Crownking999
@@Crownking999nope. I used budgets to flagships. It doesn't make anything easier than a 30k phone. Infact camera enthusiasts can also get a good camera phone at 40k. No need to go for more.
It's more like how much a person earns, if a person earning 10 lakh per month he won't have any problem buying a 1.5 lakh phone.
@@fakeman5143the whole debate went over your head huh
One of the best videos. I wished u have added a 45-50k gstrgory as well.
However, I agree s24 ultra is exorbitantly expensive (bang for bucks) and a $400-500 phone can easily give you 90% of the features and satisfaction of using a flagship
Agreed
I've never thought about my career and future as much I've thought about which phone I should buy. This is coming from a person who just uses mobile for just calls and few good pictures sometimes.
I still couldn't decide on what to buy even after thinking for 6 to 7 months. Still using my 6year old vivo phone
Same 😅
Buy a phone which has gud after sales service and cheaper cost of parts.
Samsung fan edition series is custom built for people just like you.
Bruh I've also put more thought into which phones to buy rather than what type of girls to date. And trust me I've dated many questionable girls 🤣 at least my phones have lasted longer than my relationships
Same here... Waiting for my special phone ... I don't know which one it will be... Am watching thousands of videos of different brands and every day am switching from one brand to other brand.... 🥹
Personally I feel that anything between 30k-45k should be good enough for most people. Anyone who feels that this is lacking can go for the 60k-70k segment but people should always keep in mind that you should only for the higher segment if you can afford it. If you cannot afford it, do not even touch them.
Yah 30-45 50ish is perfect
If you go for 30-50k Samsung A series, FE series its like creamy sweet spot for most of crowd as they all provide flagship feature except 1 or 2 like samsung dex etc. And now samsung is giving longer android update and security updates. S21 FE 5g i think it's the best all rounder phone with up to android 16 updates. So best go for 30k to 40k the sweetest spot
@@funindia6666 True but I personally feel that going for an almost 3 year old device is not the best decision especially when there are other newer and better devices in the segment like the Pixel 7a for example.
@@pranavsomayajula5265 if notS@!FE which phone do you suggest in that price range ?
@@pranavsomayajula52657a have trash processor. S21 Fe with 888 is far superior and 888 version is just 1 year old with 2 Major updates still left. Not bad deal even in 2024
Frankly if you need a phone for basic use like calls whatsapp browsing 20k should be the Max budget.
Whereas any phone under 60k would have almost 90% of features compared to its own flagship. If you have the money of course then paying 1.5 lakhs won't be an issue.
The phone under 20k we know are the budget one and won't complain much about it, but phone under 20-30k always makes people wanting for more in one or more area, the best bang for money with little compromise are the phones between 40-60k where you can prioritize your need if you want brand go for S/Fe Series or Oneplus, for cameras go for S-series or Pixel series or for gaming Iqoo Series.
The real sweet spot is 2nd hand S23 Ultra
Fax bro fax
I like s23 plus better because it's the same but cheaper without the s pen
@@clickbaitpro bruh you fr
S23 ultra has al these over 23 plus
1.bigger display
Better camera
100 x zoom
Better battery
Better looks etc
Flagship 2nd hand 👌
@@clickbaitpro Are you using s23+?
25-40k is the sweet spot right now, where with the Moto Edge, Poco F, and all the way to Samsung S FE series, you can get good performance, and nearly all flagship features.
But once you cross 40k, the features you get per extra 5k you spend starts decreasing.
I feel 60-80k for a true flagship can make sense. (if someone suggests me OnePlus12, I am gonna chase you with a pitchfork)
What about OP 12 ?
You don't think it's flagship?
Xiaomi flagship and poco f series are great for me, their HyperOS is smoothest off all so far
@@ptbauro alright my comment was a bit too dramatic, and the phone is good overall, but I wanna point out that it lacks heavily in the camera department.
I might sound weird or irrational, but please hear me out and read till the end. Also, I am open to healthy discussion, and wanna start off by saying that OnePlus 12 is an amazing comeback by OnePlus, and I hope they keep improving every year!
So, I liked the specs on paper and went to the store to check the camera performance, as that's my only concern. I compared it to my 3 year old S20 FE and I saw that although the OP12 has all the Hasselblad tuning, the photos on my phone were sharper and had better colour accuracy, even on zooming in. I think the OnePlus camera would compare better to the likes of Moto Edge series, which are also reallly good phones overall, but lack in the camera department.
So I say a true flagship should nail all the parameters, especially when you are paying 70k for it, which is not a small amount. And a three year old phone beating the camera, while being sold under half the price, it doesn't feel good, and made me cancel my idea of upgrading to it. (Cuz the processors are still holding up well, and unless you are regularly gaming or video editing on your phone, even 7+ Gen 1 and 865 phones are good enough)
One more thing to point out is that the Oxygen OS being plagued by Oppo's Color OS will always cause uncertainty regarding the future of the phone's OS. Cuz my previous Poco F1 got two major software upgrades, and with the last one, it got super slow and buggy to the point that I had to upgrade to a Samsung (which also I would have never thought before given to the previous slow and laggy Samsungs I used) and have never regretted since.
All I gotta say is, you should decide phones according to your priorities and preferences, and don't just go with the flow.
I am also keeping an open mind, and who knows, maybe if the OnePlus 'Flagship' has a good camera, even if it keeps everything else the same, I might get it!
Thoughts on Nothing Phone 2...is 12GB 256GB for 35K worth it or not?
I'm looking for an all rounder phone .. Good camera....medium gaming...Good UI...budget is 40K
Totally worth it, if you edit your photos before sharing. Been using it since launch, haven't faced any other issue other than the cameras being just too neutral@@bhanulohani6215
0:24 Didn't know E-sim was a *flagship* feature. After some time, these people will also say that lack of headphone jack and expandable storage is also a flaship *feature*
e sim truly is flagship blud
E sim is a flagship feature buddy
I'd say get something with 120Hz AMOLED + SoC with 1M+ Antutu + >3 yr updates + reasonable build quality and waterproofing. 40-50K is the sweet spot if you're planning to use you phone for at least 4 years. If you're planning to use it for 3 yrs, 30-35K is the sweet spot. Anything beyond 50K is ridiculous, unless you need some specific flagship feature for productivity and generate income from it.
My 17k Realme XT lasted for 4 years. And I used to play heavy games like Ark and Genshin Impact on it.
Most people aren't going to do that so even 30k is way too overkill. 20-25k will get you mostly everything you'd need.
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Phones are not for productivity. Never expect that from phones. If we exclude a few necessities like calls whatsapp, it is toy. So if you are to decide your budget keep this in mind.
Iqoo 12 is for you
I bought a redmi note 8 for 10k in feb 2020 used it till jan 2024, now I bought a moto g54 and am planing to use it till 2028
The best value for money phones are one year old flagship phones in my opinion. As they offer the best value of flagship in 40-50k segment
I really like his energy man....fast forward his videos to 2x and you'll get to know everything in just few minutes..... proud of you bro 🔥🔥
This video idea is great. Hope you will do a version 2/season 2 some time in the future.
It would be great if you include more phones to represent more brands/budgets. And also, the blind tests could be done to some guests or people at a mall/public place who doesn't know much about tech/phones.
Moto Edge 40 is really a bang for the buck. For just 28k you get a curved display, 144 hrtz display, great camera, IP68 rating, wireless charging, 64 watt wire charging, near stock android with no bloatware, Thinkshield protection. It's a win win!
No my friends edge 40 got a amoled screen burn in the clock widget area hence he changed the display so its not a win
The aim is to use it with no complaints for more period of time
Hence it fails
Many years back I switched from a flagship Mi phone to a budget Redmi. I realized that it is difficult to adjust since the quality in certain elements(camera, general performance) starts to drop. In the Android world, getting a flagship makes sense since you get updates, and even without updates the hardware/software will still hold up for the next 3-4 years. Even if the battery life takes a hit, you can change the battery and it will be as good as new.
So after you 4 years, when you choose to upgrade, the features get more recognizable. This is why reviewers should always compare new releases with releases from the previous gen since most flagship phones have already matured and year-on-year upgrades are pretty pointless.
It makes sense cause I bought Samsung s22 now for ₹40k
What If ..? it is promotional video people go for moto edge 40 definitely instead going for a budget above one lakh ..middle class people are prefer midrange phones especially
Thankyou for the useful insights, i was really confused but all sorted now, worth the time and fun to watch... Loved the video ❤
This is a good video. 25-30K should be the ideal budget for an all in one phone. Not more than that!
In the display test you covered the sensors and hence S24ultra was dim. You should have turned autobrightness off and taken all the phones on max brightness
I can confirm s24 Ultra is really bright and punchy, but you need to turn on a few settings for it. Plus the auto brightness part you said
@@alanking4328which settings to.on I just kept adaptive brightness and color tone. We can get even brighter than that ?
There should also have been a 50-60k phone like a oneplus/vivo flagship because they are legit as good as 1L+ phones in all departments except maybe the cameras but the vivo flagships are said to be as good as samsungs in camera also.
Secondly I think some phones could have been chosen which get very heavy sales discount and completely change their price tier
Like the pixel 7 which was available for 35k in sales or the s21 fe which was available for 30k in sales
These phones I think compete way better with s24 but I guess techwiser went for the MSRP prices
5g, Motorola G54 :
6.50 inches fhd ips lcd screen
Mediatek dimensity 7020
Dolby Atmos speakers
Hybrid sim slot
6000 mah 🔋, 33w charger
50 mp + 8 mp - back
16 mp - front
Flipkart :
8 / 128 gb - Rs 14,000
I see less and less people are taking about buying 1-2 year old flagships. Those for me gives the best value. If you buy a mid range phone, you compromise on a lot of things, however an old flagship gives you a premium experience in a lower cost. Very less people needs latest and greatest chips or technology, and i would argue even sd888 can get any day to day work done without any kinds of problem. Be wise when buying new phones and look for premium experience but at a lower cost.
suggest me a old flagship under 30k
@@poopsickle2411 i don't know what is your need from a phone, what is more important to you, do you need a better battery, then you might don't want to go with Samsung, but otherwise everything is best with Samsung - the camera is amazing, the UI is the best out there, good support, screen is the best and also the build quality. If you want then you can go with S21 FE sd888. It's under 30k and a killer phone at this price point.
OP 11R
The sad part is that no manufacturer is looking to make compact smartphones under budget like S23 or IPhone 13 size types ... I don’t want have a hammer size phone hanging in my side pocket .... too uncomfortable for me to hold and use in daily life
Asus Zenfone 10, is the way to go, my frd
go, with last yr model, to save cost, if reqd
One of the most clarified analytical video i have seen in YT in 2024 in this field
Bro hardware security is most imp these days if we get that in a 30-40k range with great cameras then definitely its a big yes at that price. Always discuss hardware security thats a really really extra premium feature
what do you do on your phone ??
@@soumyadityaagarwalla1517 probably hacking fbi 🌚
@@soumyadityaagarwalla1517 He designs rockets for government.
See, its not about flagships, but the processors. They matter in the long run. Cheap procesors will inevitably show their downsides after a couple of years, while the current or older flagship processors will still hold up (I have a 2019 Oneplus 7 Pro and it still holds up like it did in 2019). My suggestion would be to spend a premium on a reliable phone with a good processor + software, to be able to use it for atleast 5 years. 40-50k would be that sweetspot (for those who can afford, ofcourse).
This was the reason I bought Moto edge 40.
I agree with all your points.
The more you spend, Ladies will like you more
This is actually a very good video and I liked this idea as it would enable ppl to make their buying decision
This video will enable people to identify their priorities in a phone during a buy which can save them money
Best option is buying older flagships for discounted prices. Those are a notch above latest mid rangers in almost every aspect except maybe raw performance.
I think you missed the 60k budget, you should have also included OnePlus 12
OnePlus 12 is garbage
30k is sweet spot for me. I bought OP 6 for around 28k and used it for 3 years, next was OP Nord 2 - decent phone but i didn't like the color OS based OOS. Now im using Nothing Phone (1) and I'm totally satisfied with it - works smooth despite only having mid range processor. I can easily use it for 4 years.
My 8500rs smartphone still working like charm. If I am going to buy a new phone I'll go for 10-15k budget segments.
Well then you can go for g54 , it's really good at that price point
@@BeastBoyShub69 it's good but I need an amoled/oled display, I think g71 is good but it's out of my budget.
This video is everything that today's generation need to see. Thanks for clearing it.
under 40k is sweet spot. like nothing phone 2 , oneplus 12r, iqoo neo 7 pro. no lag in performance, fast charging, good cameras, 3 updates. 35-40k is perfect price
All we need is great battery life, decent enough camera, and no lag. Above that everything is cherry on top
now this video justifies the TechWiser channel name
a 20k phone would satisfy most buyers, I am a guy who has used a 15k Redmi Note 5 pro for 6 years straight. I guess you can buy a mid range phone, but you have to put the due diligent work to use it properly and take care of it like anything else. Ocassional clean-ups, not letting the battery go below 20% or not over charging it. etc
good old days when 15k was the sweet spot. Now every brand has pushed it to 30k.
I think you guys should've done a comparison of same brand's budget, mid range and flagship smartphones
I am using Redmi Note 10 Pro...
Bought it for 15k....
Still running smooth and fast...
Currently on Android 14 (custom Rom) 😎
How do some peoples phone run so well even after years. Just after 2 years mine starts lagging here and there and in 3 it goes into "I don't want to use it but have to" category.
Some people defend premium phones stating that the camera is way better in flagship phones.
1. It's actually not (watch MKBHD's blind camera test)
2. You can buy an actual camera and a good phone for over 1 lakh
5g, Motorola G54 :
6.50 inches fhd ips lcd screen
Mediatek dimensity 7020
Dolby Atmos speakers
Hybrid sim slot
6000 mah 🔋, 33w charger
50 mp + 8 mp - back
16 mp - front
Flipkart :
8 / 128 gb - Rs 14,000
Bro gonna blast comment section after spamming it everywhere
A 20,000 phone is enough for all needs.
Any midrange phone with a custom rom is all you need
Not everyone into custom rom
Yeah, I'm on A14 on the Poco M2 Pro, which was launched in 2020.
25,000 will be the sweet spot with phones like IQOO Z7 pro , Moto edge 40 neo , Poco F5 etc
@@ranveer_7anyone who knows proper info of custom rom will always prefer them
@@ItachiUchia-uj2yn I have proper info of custom ROMs, but I stopped using them since now I have no free time to sit down and take backups before every small update.
Finally a proper analysis of budget, mid-range and flagship phones.👍
We dont unbox the phone everyday. Nice video. Also cover OP 12R
Still in embargo it seems, and no youtuber has review units, there was only one 1+12R with youtubers(the imported one), which Guptaji destroyed.
@@rrrr3666gupta ji always destroying phones
Embargo will be lifted on Monday
I agree with you 100%
My resolution:
Buy the flagship when it depreciates to that price range. I'll be switching from my current Z fold 3 to the s23+ shortly.
Next up would most likely be the s25+ or s24 Ultra if the s25+ did not get the s24 ultra screen.
I'd say in 2024 25-30K will be the sweet spot 👌🏼
Nope the sweet spot is 40-50k where you can get most of the flagship true features unlike gimmick or not usuable features like curved screen and IP ratings good cameras and good software updates would be any day better than curved screen or IP rating(you can't claim warranty on water damaged even though your is rated with IP ratings), as 25-30k comes with 7-series processor for majority of the phones, cameras are just good in numbers, software wise not great, if you spend around 40-45k you can get a Nothing phone amazing built and clean android, Fe series phone good cameras and software updates, Pixel 7 flagship cameras clean android, Oneplus 11 good brand and good performance, IQOO 12 at 50k latest flagship processor, good cameras and built, and around 50k the people's favourite last gen iphone number series in big billion day.
U echo my thoughts. I had d same opinion after looking at smartphones in all d diff price ranges.
A very gud vdo for someone trying to make sense of d confusion in d smartphone world!
Can you guys also cover pixel feature drops? Being a pixel user it'll be great to get the info from you guys!
Very good video, i used flagship phones for eight years, now i bought me the Motorola Edge 40 Neo and i'm happy with it.
In the box I think the S24 display was quite dim due to the sensor being covered which is why it was washed out.
If your needs are following
1. Calls
2. WhatsApp
3. Internet browsing
4. Decent photos - by decent I mean for functional purpose and not use phone as a camera to click amazing pictures wherever you go
5. Good software experience
Then there are phones in 15-20k segment which can be used for at least 3-4 years
sweet spot is 40k to 50k
but if u have never used a flagship phone u wont be able to tell the diffrence
its like a addiction, once u use the flagship u cant go back
after using my dads iphones and S series samsungs my whole life, the lowest ive gone is nothing phone
and ik it doesnt perform but idc, animations are smooth, it doesnt add cheep sharpness to videos, and most importantly it doesnt blur my face while trying to brighten it, which my mom's edge 20 ultra always does.
and plus i get good updates, i got android 14 on my phone 2 before myy dad's S22ultra. and my mom's edge 20 ultra never got it.
good batery too btw
Some can barely buy phone in 20k 😭
@@stonks693 no joke, until like 2y ago i didnt know phones existed below 80k
Go to a local shop and buy a 99 or 150 cover as you want it will keep safe no need to pay more than 200 on smartphone case
Vivo x100 vs iphone 14/15 vs s23 vs oneplus 12 camera comparison... pls
It's scary to think, when he says sweet spot of phones will keep on increasing. 30-35k is no joke. Already.😮
I say 30 to 50k is the best range....bcoz u are not doing any code for chandrayaan with the phone right(I am not saying below 30k is worst...it's like If u have the budget...buy in the range of 30 to 50k)
Completely waste for more than 80% consumers !!!
You should create a video on comparison of 30k, 40k, 50k. Bcoz it is hard to decide should you spend 30k or increase you budget a little bit.
Just 2 things I would say:-
(1) Find the category of your budget- if u got big big budget you can have all of the features and can have the best phone in every aspect or
(2) If you have the sweet spot budget as mentioned, you better shortlist your priorities according to your daily need on basis of which a meaningful decision can be made
Moto edge 40 doesn’t have a glass back 😅 ?
The ''Value'' axis is too vague as it is variable...on the other hand, price is properly quantified - so, my sweet spot would not be same as someone else's. If we put - ''Average FPS in Genshin Impact in lowest settings'' in the ''Y'' axis...this would be much accurate chart for those who value performance over everything else. Similarly, you would have to make multiple graphs for Camera Quality, User XP, etc. The main thing is to define value as specifically as possible.
9:57 did bro just f ed up the graph, or am I wrong
Nothing but creating a FoMo and pushes you to increase your budget, even if a 10-15k phone fulfills your requirements. Choose by yourself, not the RUclipsrs. They already got their commission or fee.
My bro explained Economics better than a Highly educated teacher.
Hey TW, on one side you mentioned LCD for the other two hence better than Redmi12 & then say AMOLED >> LCD?
Did you mean budget? Not very clear what you wanted to say.
Refer 4:30 to 4:40
In another video too this kind of lack of clarity on your view. In a recorded video misplacing the words (by mistake of course) can confuse people. Thanks for the videos, they are helpful.
Finally a video worth watching ❤
Bro, For build quality you should also include a drop test & dip test, otherwise the build quality section is incomplete.
The real world durability should also be tested I feel.
Sayan looks like a ninja turtle when blindfolded 😊😂😂😂😂😂
Finally the old techwiser is back!!
Nice video, but it would be better if you compared phones of 3 price segment of the same brand . Samsung has phones in almost all the budget ranges and it could be a great idea
If you have a 50k salary, then buy a 25-30k smartphone. As simple as that...
Salary is not the only economic parameter. Even with 1.5lakh+ salary, I didn't pay more than 25k for a phone
Even with 1 lakh salary , I would prefer 20k phone
Wtf.. people with 1 lakh salary also watching RUclips videos like me 😅
It's not just about salary. If something satisfies you or gives you happiness, there's no problem spending a little extra for it.
I like traveling, so I don't mind spending money there. But it would bother me to spend on Gucci or Hermes.
😂@@rajarshidey3000
Considering the recent price drop and "sales season", can you please guide us about the optimum price level which the consumer should keep in mind?
It's not about price it's about class and status people want
also reliability, My dada XR is closing 5 years and even if he put it in exchange rn, it would fetch 12k that too excluding the exchange bonus, in a 5 year window I've changed 2~3 phones which summed up to more or less the same price
What nonsense.
So no charger is started as a saving environment. Then what would the one do with the phone without charger?
30-40k best range and flagship killer
OG OnePlus launched in that price sweet point
I have the first one plue nord, and it's still working like butter after 4 years
1) choose what kind of phone you NEED
what specs you really NEED
like do you need a clean UI or it doesn't matter to you,
do you need 5G or 4G will work for you etc
2) buy the cheapest phone available with those specs (try buying higher RAM Storage variant so your phone last long)
This is the exact video i wanted thank you Team Tech wiser 🤗❤
This is the reason why samsung FE series is a gem during the BBD sales. You will get the flagship level processors, Dynamic Amoled 2X Display, IP68 water resistance, 3X telephoto lens, 4K@60fps video recording, wireless charging, 4 years of software support, Stereo speakers etc, pretty all the flagship level features under 35K₹.
would you still recommend the s21 FE? I was planning to buy it and i need a good camera
huge effort went in making this video. Really appreciate
You forgot to mention "S21 FE". With 4 years of Android update this phone is still relevant if we compare with other Chinese brands.. I mean the Snapdragon Variant is a gem model.. Fantastic Camera, Outstanding performance, Samsung OneUI experience.
I would say max 20k.
No matter what you buy how much ever expensive there are certain risks.
you may accidentally drop it, it may get stolen while travelling, i have seen my friends get samsung and other flagship phones with curved display and drop it accidentally having to replace a screen which cost 20-30k so they buy a budget phone instead. ( a good boxy phone with bumper case and a edge to edge screenguard has been letting me extend durability of my devices and prevent damage for years)
I had a realme 3 pro lasted 4 years, got it for 10K, recently upgraded to redmi 12 pro, 19K with offers.
I've been using Samsung m30s for 4.5 years now. Bought it for like 13k or so after using S4, Nexus, OnePlus 3t & 7t. Still don't feel the need to upgrade now considering the performance is still quite stable. Only issue is the camera & bloatware. Samsung software experience drives me crazy. So looking to go for another mid range.
💀me who planning to buy 5700rs smartphone.
Which one did you buy?
Buying mid range phone is too much of a headache. Too much competition from every brand. People would probably waste so many hours, if not days, to watch tech videos to select the mobile. In my opinion, if you can afford, it is best to get a basic iPhone model of previous year's edition. Will get for a less price and won't be far behind the current year one. No competition and save a lot of time without needing to compare to other mobile phones. Camera will be good anyways and no need to think of an upgrade for a few years.
Apple overrated
u have a point apple products are expensive no doubt but there is a peace of mind with it
i'm using realme 5 in 2024 but i can also play 4k videos in youtube
I think it is best to get a phone between 30k to 40k
I have put myself and my family members through a habit of buying ₹30,000 to ₹35,000/- Phone, every 3.5 to 4 years, as per requirement. That being said, I also take care of exchanging my old device with the newer one so as to maintain the overall cost of my new phone within 35K. It is not inexpensive for a phone but absolutely worth it considering the recent trend of phones getting more and more pricey!
I feel the sweetspot is around 40~50k as you get the balanced experience in terms of both software and hardware
I guess the difference is also that a flagship phones age better.. it's the software or the quality of the hardware, mid range and budget phones get a bit slow after a year of usage. Which is not the case with an iPhone. You get a premium experience for the 3 years you use it. Also something like an iPhone has a much better ecosystem with airpods and apple watch. The brand value of an iPhone makes a difference
I have a S21 FE that I got for a huge discount almost 2 years back, and samsung's own software update killed it with a white line and charging port not working anymore. Now it's in service center and Samsung has a free display replacement policy but in reality they are not honouring it.
So now i'm arguing with service center people from 20 days for replacement for my 35,000 phone. I think they will reject the free replacement and my phone will become useless.
What is the point of 5 year updates if phone dies before completing 2 years lol. Next time im just gonna stick to below 20k phones.
Bought the Moto Edge 40 with Vegan leather back and boy is this phone a ✨bang for the buck✨...
Motorola a company i didn't even care existed has turned me into a fan boy with just one phone... I have an eye out for the sweet sweet Moto Razr next...
Bhai 1 baar sirf mobile girne de. Screen ya kuch b tutega na fir pata chalega service kesi h. I m from mumbai and I hate moto services joh mehenge rate pe parts naye kharidne padenge fir pata chalega .😢
*Bro, you should have included the IQOO 12 or the OnePlus 12... As there is a huge price gap between Edge 40 and s24 ultra... And those phones also offers flagship features at lower price...*
Why you didn't choose all three phone from same brand .
I think that would be a fair comparison between budget midrange and flagship
I have purchased s21fe sd888....in 35000 with one yr extended warranty..... now I don't care about any other phone.😂
Selection of phone depends on needs & how much we can afford to spend, as we are not gonna use every feature of the phone.
Bro which phone should I buy, my preference
1.camera
2. Long term phone
3.ui
4.battery
5.performance
Do not have a fixed budget, but want a value for money smartphone. Only want to buy a phone from a non Chinese brand
Also bro loved this video
You forgot one important part though
Charging speeds. Moto offers 67W I think and the edge 30 ultra actually offers 125W as well
Realme 11 pro plus at 27k offering 100w is tremendous vfm and also Redmi note 13 pro plus
This is a very good video. Very well made. The only thing that may also be included is the price drop for some brands after let us say 6 months.
This video helped me understand the budget I should keep in my mind
The general rule is that you should not spend more than 1 month's salery on a smartphone. If you're buying a bike, then 3 months' salary and if a car then 1 year salery. So what ever phone falls under your 1 month salery, that is your budget.
For cameras I think the main thing is software. Though 1 lakh phones get slightly better sensors, 80% of it is software. If it is the same/similar software why don't they provide with lower budget phones. Business tactics to sell more of the flagship phones as they have the highest profit margins. They could potentially add the software to budget phones, as post processing app. They have been saying AI camera from ages. But don't see drastic improvements