Classical music's favourite chord progression

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  • @DavidBennettPiano
    @DavidBennettPiano  10 месяцев назад +51

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    • @TransportGeekery
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      This means nothing to me

    • @DavidBennettPiano
      @DavidBennettPiano  10 месяцев назад +3

      @@TransportGeekery 😂 nice

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      @R.Akerman-oz1tf 10 месяцев назад

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  • @jacksonmouldycliff9613
    @jacksonmouldycliff9613 10 месяцев назад +1308

    The Corelli/ Brittany Spears mashup is so well done!

    • @DavidBennettPiano
      @DavidBennettPiano  10 месяцев назад +186

      Thank you! It was quite awkward to do because the Corelli piece is in 3/4 but the Britney song is in 4/4 😅😅

    • @whycantiremainanonymous8091
      @whycantiremainanonymous8091 10 месяцев назад +53

      It's as brilliant as it is hillarious.

    • @ShadowhispersBand
      @ShadowhispersBand 10 месяцев назад +17

      Sîmply brilliant. Never expected this

    • @ITOLDUDA
      @ITOLDUDA 10 месяцев назад +60

      @@DavidBennettPiano You should upload the Britney mashup as a short so we could loop just that part. I'm obsessed with it!

    • @adamev
      @adamev 10 месяцев назад +5

      I too thought it was fantastic.

  • @povilasl5383
    @povilasl5383 10 месяцев назад +577

    I want more classical chord progressions!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @DavidBennettPiano
      @DavidBennettPiano  10 месяцев назад +162

      I have another video planned actually on more classical chord progressions 😃😃

    • @magdakos4690
      @magdakos4690 10 месяцев назад +10

      Check out the video about Canon chord progression!

    • @1685Violin
      @1685Violin 10 месяцев назад +25

      You need to be careful when understanding "chord" progressions in classical music since progressions back then were understood as sequences based on counterpoint, not harmonic functions, that is chords.

    • @lxathu
      @lxathu 10 месяцев назад +13

      I didn't dare to be the first but frankly: the less pop the more interesting the material is.

    • @ITOLDUDA
      @ITOLDUDA 10 месяцев назад +10

      @@1685Violin This is true, but it's also fun to hear what those composers did with same chords used today in pop music. Same chords, but much different result than today's "music." I lifted one of Mozart's chord progressions verbatim, preserving a great deal of the melody in one of my pop songs. It was quite nice even if it wasn't my work per se. Chords are chords no matter what arrangement is put over top of them whether it be reductive pop songs or classical masterpieces.

  • @PurpleRevolutionMusic
    @PurpleRevolutionMusic 10 месяцев назад +185

    I wrote my bachelor thesis on the folia. It's actually much older than people know. First mention is an improvisational model by late medieval monk Guilielmus Monachus. It's a combination of bass and melody that builds the following interval in the same pattern: 8-10-8-10-8-10-8-10 (e.g. D-D, A-C#, D-D, C-E, F-F, C-E, D-D, A-C#). The first folia like we know today, however, was written by andrea falconieri around 1650, Jean-Baptiste Lully being a close second.
    What many people dismiss when talking about this model is that the melody, like Guilielmus Monachus observes, is actually most of the time just as important as the harmonic structure. It's extremely simple which is why it was used so often as a model for writing tons of variations, most famous by before mentioned Lully and of course Antonio Salieri. One of the best set of variations, in my opinion, was however written by C.P.E. Bach for Cembalo. A genius work
    EDIT: It's btw also used in Vamo'alla flamenco from Final Fantasy 9's soundtrack. Slightly different cadence but still the same focus on harmony and melody

    • @ZonieMusic
      @ZonieMusic 10 месяцев назад +5

      I'm interested in reading your thesis! Would you happen to know where I can find it?

    • @PurpleRevolutionMusic
      @PurpleRevolutionMusic 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@ZonieMusic That was like 10 years ago and I didn't publish it anywhere. It's also in german

    • @ZonieMusic
      @ZonieMusic 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@PurpleRevolutionMusic Ah, its alright! Was just curious to know more

    • @francescorighini9303
      @francescorighini9303 10 месяцев назад +2

      There's at least an older one by a spanish keyboardist (Cabezon? Can't remember right now), but it starts o V instead of I.

    • @NuisanceMan
      @NuisanceMan 10 месяцев назад

      Melody is always MORE important than harmonic structure.

  • @martinbagnall9708
    @martinbagnall9708 10 месяцев назад +153

    Richard Thompson has Oops I Did It Again as one of his songs in 1000 years of popular music. He mentions it's a baroque chord progression

    • @xoxb2
      @xoxb2 10 месяцев назад +8

      I was about to say he uses a Britney song, but I couldn't remember which one (since I don't know any of them). That's a great show, too.

    • @martifingers
      @martifingers 10 месяцев назад +16

      Yes indeed. It seemed an odd choice but Mr Thompson is to be trusted.

    • @Pwecko
      @Pwecko 10 месяцев назад

      I was going to mention this too.

    • @Pwecko
      @Pwecko 10 месяцев назад

      ruclips.net/video/V4WGsMplGxU/видео.htmlsi=yOv46Fgh6FoRsxG7

    • @pipertripp
      @pipertripp 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@martifingers your comment sounds very much like a line from a spy movie.

  • @josephcomfort1166
    @josephcomfort1166 10 месяцев назад +171

    Your chord progression videos have changed my life- I write them all on a notepad-thank you Bennett.

  • @thegenius204
    @thegenius204 10 месяцев назад +72

    That Corelli/Spears mashup got too deep too quickly. Love it!

  • @benjamingeorg2027
    @benjamingeorg2027 10 месяцев назад +46

    The Corelli/Spears mashup was extraordinarily impressive. Proving a thesis through antithesis - on point.

  • @TheElectra5000
    @TheElectra5000 10 месяцев назад +24

    Now we'll see how many pop artists/producers follow this channel by the surge of songs with this progression that will arise after this video's publication.

  • @TransportGeekery
    @TransportGeekery 10 месяцев назад +20

    Your moog riff is progtastic. Made a good day even better!

  • @somedaygibson6894
    @somedaygibson6894 10 месяцев назад +26

    I first heard this theme used in the score for Kubrick's film Barry Lyndon and it' has stuck in my head ever since.Thank you for this wonderful survey of its origins and continued use.

    • @enriquesaldivar5636
      @enriquesaldivar5636 10 месяцев назад +3

      Exactly, it rang a bell! It is the Sarabanda by Haendel played in a very moving scene of Barry Lindon movie

    • @francescorighini9303
      @francescorighini9303 10 месяцев назад

      It isn't the same, despite the two first chords being I V in d minor.

  • @maperspective6685
    @maperspective6685 10 месяцев назад +22

    Rachmaninoff composed wonderful variations on this "Theme of Corelli." I never noticed it in Beethoven's fifth, or nowhere else. Thanks for pointing it out.

  • @SuranyiOval
    @SuranyiOval 10 месяцев назад +47

    Maybe it's my math-oriented brain, but I always loved that this progression is a palindrome! Has a kind of overarching forward-backward dynamics and I think this is one of the main reason why this progression works so well.

    • @Luxedrina
      @Luxedrina 10 месяцев назад +3

      Oh, I love your observation! I'm going to try this out!

  • @ignazfriedman5337
    @ignazfriedman5337 10 месяцев назад +76

    1. Corelli’s and Vivaldi’s Follia is in D minor, not in C# minor. The musicians in the video are playing at A=415 Hz.
    2. I found another Folia in “pop music”: Rare Bird’s “As your mind flies by”.
    3. Liszt’s Spanish Rhapsody receives his name also from a Jota it uses, a Spanish folk dance.

    • @carlfranke5370
      @carlfranke5370 10 месяцев назад +9

      Thank you :) The same applies to the aria from Bach's Peasant Cantata, which is in B minor and not in B-flat minor.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 10 месяцев назад +7

      I guess this is a perfect example of how people sometimes say Mozart etc’s perfect pitch would be considered way off nowadays! Tuning systems are super fascinating honestly.

    • @paavobergmann4920
      @paavobergmann4920 9 месяцев назад

      I know one from Folk music: The "Lamb´s Polka" from Karelia, as covered by the fusion band "Piirpauke"

    • @julianbrelsford
      @julianbrelsford 9 месяцев назад +1

      As someone who played La Folia (straight out of a Suzuki violin book) , I noticed this too. Relative to modern pitch, you could view this as being in written D minor, and Concert C# minor, on a "B" (key) instrument.

    • @GoddessPallasAthena
      @GoddessPallasAthena 4 месяца назад

      OMG I had to look up "As Your Mind Flies By." Thank you for this information.

  • @LouiePlaysDrums
    @LouiePlaysDrums 10 месяцев назад +17

    Tangerine Dream used the La Folia progression in the last section of their piece "Force Majeure". Years later, they did a piece called "Archangelo Corelli's La Folia" which (you guessed it) is entirely based on La Folia.

  • @JDLuty-oc5hk
    @JDLuty-oc5hk 10 месяцев назад +11

    Do more content on classical music chord progressions, please!!

  • @stevieroach
    @stevieroach 10 месяцев назад +15

    One of the most famous theme songs in the world, Doctor Who, is a sort of stretched out La Folia progression, although with a few extra chords in places.

    • @richardwebb2348
      @richardwebb2348 9 месяцев назад

      The theme is written in the E minor phrygian mode.

  • @dwdei8815
    @dwdei8815 10 месяцев назад +3

    No mention of Rachmaninov's Variations on a Theme by Corelli? Based on La Folia, in Dm. Gorgeous. You should give it a peek, it's busting with harmonic ideas.

  • @richardmclean7223
    @richardmclean7223 10 месяцев назад +12

    Brilliant as always. Would love to know more about history of chord progression. What makes genres so instantly identifiable with their era? Not just classical but jazz and popular music too.

  • @Desirsar
    @Desirsar 10 месяцев назад +4

    Thanks for the idea to work on this week, La Folia in harmonic minor with some slide parts but still mostly surfy with all the spring reverb.

  • @SeanDagher
    @SeanDagher 9 месяцев назад +1

    The baroque pieces are played at A415 (instead of A440) so the Corelli is actually in Dm and the Bach is in Bm.

  • @blaspayri
    @blaspayri 10 месяцев назад +23

    this cord progression of la folia gives a renaissance touch even with your composition with electronic instruments. BTW, in Spanish it is *la folía* with a stress on the i. Some claim that due to its musical form, style and the etymology of the word, it is assumed that the melody emerged as a dance in the middle or end of the 15th century, in Portugal or in the former Kingdom of León (an area of Galician influence) or in the Kingdom of Valencia. Both in Portuguese and in Catalan/Valencian "la folia" is pronounced with a stress on the I, even if the accent is not written. Sorry for the pedantry 🥸

  • @carbonmonoxide5052
    @carbonmonoxide5052 10 месяцев назад +5

    I literally started writing a Sarabande with the La Folía progression yesterday. Crazy how that works.

  • @growbear
    @growbear 10 месяцев назад +1

    I've been listening to various renditions of La Folia. Never realized in how many more corners it has been lurking. Thanks!

  • @EduNauta95
    @EduNauta95 10 месяцев назад +6

    Everyone should listen to the catalan legendary musician Jordi Savall’s Folias de España concert piece with his viola da gamba, one of the most famous pieces of early music on youtube.

  • @ZeZapatiste
    @ZeZapatiste 10 месяцев назад +50

    If you're not that much into baroque music but more of a prog-rock/metal fan, I very highly recommand you the Vivaldi's Folia, especially its end and just realise how much of a precursor he was as he wrote them 320 years ago.

    • @illegal_space_alien
      @illegal_space_alien 10 месяцев назад +1

      Kind of a tangent I was thinking of as well. There has to be plenty of examples of this chord progression in prog music.

    • @Photologistic
      @Photologistic 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@illegal_space_alien Are you saying Brittany isn’t progressive? 🤔

    • @Luxedrina
      @Luxedrina 10 месяцев назад

      @@PhotologisticHer "Blackout" album has a lot of prog and weird moments!

  • @KarstenJohansson
    @KarstenJohansson 10 месяцев назад +1

    8:23 is the most appropriate ad placement I've ever seen. It makes you pay more attention to the sound of the composition, and likewise the product giving it reverb!

  • @itiseragon
    @itiseragon 10 месяцев назад +3

    Found the chord progression for my next piano piece. Thank you as always from one composer to another!

  • @philomelodia
    @philomelodia 10 месяцев назад +4

    Loved your piece.. Absolutely beautiful. The whole video was wonderful. Baroque music happens to be my absolute favorite when it comes to western European art music. It was nice for this layman to get a glimpse of what’s going on behind the scenes. I actually grabbed my guitar and started fiddling around with this progression. Very inspiring.

  • @mr88cet
    @mr88cet 10 месяцев назад +2

    Really excellent survey of the literature! Thanks, David! Thanks for pointing out its association with Sarabands, for example.

  • @freepagan
    @freepagan 10 месяцев назад +2

    Absolutely brilliant presentation. I love your videos, please keep it up! Cheers from the US

  • @antmonk8537
    @antmonk8537 10 месяцев назад +62

    I think Terra's Theme from Final Fantasy 6 is a good match for this progression (or bassline, as you pointed out).

    • @_girltype
      @_girltype 10 месяцев назад +17

      vamo' alla flamenco from final fantasy ix explicitly making the iberian connection, too

    • @jarodivey9033
      @jarodivey9033 10 месяцев назад +1

      My favorite VGM song of all time. So many hours grinding on the triangle island were spent to that tune.

    • @agunlogisteam
      @agunlogisteam 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@_girltypeah... I've been wondering why this progression stuck in my head first time i saw this video. Looking for answers in comments, yes... All those hours spent digging with my chocobo 😂

    • @nathanielholzgrafe5274
      @nathanielholzgrafe5274 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@_girltype Yes, this. Vamo alla Flamenco is a deliberate use of this progression that doesn't hide its influences.

    • @Roberto-nn6kb
      @Roberto-nn6kb 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yooo love that game and tune

  • @ActaeaMusic
    @ActaeaMusic 10 месяцев назад +3

    I found your own composition absolutely fantastic with that Moog sound!

  • @Aquatarkus96
    @Aquatarkus96 10 месяцев назад +9

    The ending music sounds like something straight out of a yes album, I love it

    • @ancienbelge
      @ancienbelge 10 месяцев назад +1

      Needs some Mellotron :)

  • @victorwilburn8588
    @victorwilburn8588 10 месяцев назад +4

    It would be very interesting to see an exploration of alternative ways to harmonize the same ground bass to get different chord progressions.

  • @victorwilburn8588
    @victorwilburn8588 10 месяцев назад +2

    Now I know what "Oops, I Did It Again" sounded so at home in Richard Thompson's "1000 Years of Popular Music".

  • @ericmyrs
    @ericmyrs 10 месяцев назад +2

    I can see why this got so popular. It's a fantastic progression.

  • @thierryauves
    @thierryauves 10 месяцев назад +1

    cheers from brasil, awesome content!

  • @Topcatyo.
    @Topcatyo. 10 месяцев назад

    I absolutely love the background you give on this chord progression (ground bass), like its use in the Iberian peninsula, etc. I find all of this stuff extremely fascinating, and would never have thought to look these up on my own.

  • @dansaber4427
    @dansaber4427 10 месяцев назад +2

    I am blown away

  • @robertbourke7935
    @robertbourke7935 10 месяцев назад +1

    Fantastic demonstration David

  • @formigamusicfactory6614
    @formigamusicfactory6614 10 месяцев назад

    my life is better for knowing your work, thanks!

  • @videogamevisuals
    @videogamevisuals 10 месяцев назад +5

    After hearing it in Assassin's Creed Unity for the first time, Corellis La Folia became one of my favourite classical pieces. I didn't know this chord progression was so popular, this video was a really cool insight!

  • @DjVortex-w
    @DjVortex-w 10 месяцев назад +2

    Damn, now every composition that uses this chord progression sounds like "Conquest of Paradise" to my ears. Can't unhear.

  • @MattB90
    @MattB90 10 месяцев назад

    So cool to nerd out over things like this after playing pieces such as these for so long

  • @EduardoTrillo2
    @EduardoTrillo2 10 месяцев назад +1

    thanks David! if you want to do them, we'd love more classical music videos❤

  • @JDazell
    @JDazell 10 месяцев назад +1

    I adore this musical theme. So glas you did a video on this

  • @petersage5157
    @petersage5157 10 месяцев назад +5

    No wonder Richard Thompson chose "Oops! I Did It Again" to close out his _1000 Years of Popular Music._ IIRC he went into a baroque adaptation close to the end. A lot of these so-called "disposable artists" are better musicians than most people give them credit for.

    • @SamChaneyProductions
      @SamChaneyProductions 10 месяцев назад +4

      To be fair, Britney didn't write that song, her producer Max Martin did

  • @clawspirit
    @clawspirit 10 месяцев назад +1

    One of my favorite progression for improvisation.

  • @Swampod
    @Swampod 10 месяцев назад

    I was waiting for such a review of La Folia to come. Great job! Thank you!

  • @thegridlessheathen4627
    @thegridlessheathen4627 10 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you so much, can we get more videos like this? I would love to learn more about the more commonly used progressions we can pull from classical.

  • @MichaelForbes-d4p
    @MichaelForbes-d4p 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you! I have seen this progression before but I had no idea how important it was.

  • @deanprice3715
    @deanprice3715 10 месяцев назад +1

    Cpe Bach and Alessandro Scarlatti Variations on la folia are a perfect examples of how you can compose/improvise on a bass line outline a chord progression

  • @AdamKucharczyk
    @AdamKucharczyk 10 месяцев назад +3

    Haaaaa, THANK YOU!!!! I asked for la folia some time ago, I cannot get free from this cord progression!

  • @RavenclawNimbus
    @RavenclawNimbus 10 месяцев назад +1

    I’m new to this channel and really loving this stuff! These are so interesting

  • @kenvives
    @kenvives 10 месяцев назад +4

    Like others, I would love more content with “classical” theory concepts as well as modern cinematic music!!!! Thanks so much for this!

  • @michaelmeyer2725
    @michaelmeyer2725 10 месяцев назад +2

    Your outro composition is awesome! I can so hear an orchestra performing it.

  • @gellertkisdi
    @gellertkisdi 10 месяцев назад +1

    (Corelli's La Folia (actually most La Folias) is in d minor, not c# minor. I know, they tuned to a low A because they are baroque players, but that doesn't change the key they are in. If someone plays the violin, they can also see the violinist's hand playing a D on the A string with the third finger.)

  • @stubbsmusic543
    @stubbsmusic543 10 месяцев назад

    I really love how you superimposed those two pieces! Really well done!

  • @Mercenarus
    @Mercenarus 3 месяца назад

    I'm glad you mentioned the Sarabande cause I had in the ear some of the Haendel's Sarabande (the one used in Barry Lyndon) half of the time :p
    Excellent video as usual ;)

  • @cdprince768
    @cdprince768 10 месяцев назад +36

    "I could only find this classical chord progression in one pop song... ELP? Genesis? Yes? Rush? No, Britney Spears."

    • @ImperatorGrausam
      @ImperatorGrausam 10 месяцев назад +9

      To be fair none of these are pop songs. Though I wish he used examples of prog rock.

    • @patepulkkinenvtec2403
      @patepulkkinenvtec2403 10 месяцев назад +3

      ​​@@ImperatorGrausamGenesis released mostly pop rock stuff in the 80's and 90's though. Rush doesn't take that much influence from classical music anyway, the other three you mentioned do though quite some bit. Don't excpect to see that chord progression that much in ELP stuff because a lot of their music is... weird. Yes and Genesis are closer, but even they often want to variate from those typical choralesque chord progressions that are often the basics of their use of harmony.

  • @whatever2045
    @whatever2045 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you! I've played La Folia variations in the past and always wondered about its popularity.

  • @robertkadar6856
    @robertkadar6856 10 месяцев назад

    Brilliant! I was today years old when I learned about this persistent and intriguing progression. I’m definitely going to play with it and write a new melody for it!

  • @Othillde
    @Othillde День назад

    I was listening to "oops I did it again" the other day, and was thinking to myself that it somehow sounded old and classical. I love that sound 🤍

  • @sapphoenixthefirebird5063
    @sapphoenixthefirebird5063 7 месяцев назад

    One of my favourite uses of La Folia is in Gustav Holst's _Saturn, Bringer of Old Age_ where the chord progression is used over and over, building up tension until the bells tolling.

  • @mariannamycroft2611
    @mariannamycroft2611 9 месяцев назад

    That explaines so much!

  • @briancase6180
    @briancase6180 10 месяцев назад +1

    Wow, I never realized that a pop song uses this progression! I know there are other classical music progressions that have made for big pop hits, but this one escaped me perhaps because of the tempo difference.... Thanks!

  • @Mezilesialan
    @Mezilesialan 10 месяцев назад

    Such a pleasure . Thank you.

  • @avengedsevenfold249
    @avengedsevenfold249 10 месяцев назад +1

    For me it sounds like a I - V - I in a minor key (like, for example Am - E7 - Am), and then V-I-V in the relative major key (G-C-G) before returning back to the minor tonic

  • @gregonline6506
    @gregonline6506 10 месяцев назад

    Yep, that makes a lot of sense! Thx for putting together all that information!

  • @thegothaunt
    @thegothaunt 10 месяцев назад

    Loved your piece at the end!

  • @PaulP567
    @PaulP567 10 месяцев назад

    Completely fascinating.

  • @hamm0155
    @hamm0155 9 месяцев назад

    Love what you did with the composition

  • @SephBentos
    @SephBentos 10 месяцев назад +2

    It’s incredibly similar to Vamo' Alla Flamenco from Final Fantasy IX. The only real difference is the ending uses a VI-V-i instead of a i-V-i

  • @madaxe79
    @madaxe79 5 месяцев назад

    I have to stop watching this channel… I can’t handle any more sleepless nights thinking about these progressions.

  • @stevenqirkle
    @stevenqirkle 10 месяцев назад +1

    One of my all-time favorite pieces for classical guitar is an arrangement of Handel’s Sarabande in D minor by Andres Segovia. It was interesting to learn that this is considered a Spanish progression, and maybe explains why Segovia’s arrangement for guitar works so well!

  • @Rainrizzerr
    @Rainrizzerr 10 месяцев назад +2

    I swear I wasn't crazy when I immediately thought of Pirates of the Carribbean when I heard this progression

  • @jerominefelixcantoneros393
    @jerominefelixcantoneros393 10 месяцев назад

    Excellent Resource, thanks

  • @fredraccoon2958
    @fredraccoon2958 10 месяцев назад +1

    Well, that's my evening sorted. Break out the looper and have a jam.

  • @danthsmith
    @danthsmith 10 месяцев назад

    Great food for thought. I'm trying i straight away on the guitar. Thanks

  • @andreask3218
    @andreask3218 10 месяцев назад

    I immediately felt reminded of the 'Restoration' soundtrack and smiled when realizing it is actually mentioned as an example in this video😊

  • @timothyreynolds6255
    @timothyreynolds6255 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks for another stimulating video. I'll be making my own LaFolia today.

  • @mackermaldrill2656
    @mackermaldrill2656 10 месяцев назад

    Beautiful piece at the end.

  • @LoffysDomain
    @LoffysDomain 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you for creating and sharing this didactical masterpiece.

  • @MikeFowlerguitars
    @MikeFowlerguitars 10 месяцев назад

    Very useful. Thank you for this.

  • @jwillied1326
    @jwillied1326 10 месяцев назад +4

    That ending piece was great, do you release stuff on spotify? Also these chord progression videos are super useful because I'm a freshman in college for Music Media Production and understanding all these things is wonderfully useful. Thank you

  • @GilbertoAlbino
    @GilbertoAlbino 10 месяцев назад

    Hi David, fantastic work. Love your ability to join the missing parts together!

  • @c.jhamblin5759
    @c.jhamblin5759 10 месяцев назад +10

    Im surprised you didnt talk about how the VII III are less individual chords and more a temporary tonicization of the V I in the relative major, but other than that this was a great video

    • @walfredswanson
      @walfredswanson 10 месяцев назад +2

      I was going to point that out, too. Seen that way, it is really a very simple but elegant idea: tonic, dominant, relative major with its dominant and back again. The VII - III analysis obscures things a bit.

    • @mrewan6221
      @mrewan6221 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yep. I'm lucky enough to have done functional harmony, and the breaks down to quaite a simple progression:
      T D T D/Tr Tr D/Tr T D
      where T is tonic (i), D is the dominant (V), Tr is the tonic-relative (III), D/Tr is the dominant of the Tonic-relative (VII).
      Purists would probably write it as: t D t D/tR tR D/tR t D with loer-case showing minor.

    • @LeTromboniste0
      @LeTromboniste0 9 месяцев назад

      This progression predates tonality by about 200 years. It's also not bass-based. It's not tonal harmony, so it's not super relevant to analyse it from the perspective of functional harmony.

    • @mrewan6221
      @mrewan6221 9 месяцев назад

      @@LeTromboniste0 What an odd comment.
      Are you saying we shouldn't use a tool to examine something because that tool hadn't been invented when the something was created?
      Does that mean we shouldn't use a magnifying glass to look at the Dead Sea scrolls?

    • @LeTromboniste0
      @LeTromboniste0 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@mrewan6221 No, that's not what I said. You can use the tool, of course, to reconceptualise what you're studying, and in particular when the progression is used in an otherwise tonal context (and it might help qualify the tonal pull we feel towards the "III" chord) but it won't tell you either where it came from, or how it actually works, and so the relevancy of it is limited. All I'm saying is, since the language you're analysing is not the one this tool is meant for, there's no reason why "it's a temporary tonicization" would be any more accurate than saying "it's VII III VII". They're both valid, and also in some ways both incomplete.
      It's not as much that the tool had not been invented as the language was an entirely different one than what the tool is meant to be used for. Would you analyse Anglo-Saxon writings through the framework of modern english grammar? You can try, and maybe there's something interesting to be learned by doing it, but it definitely won't nearly give you all the information.

  • @donlake8619
    @donlake8619 10 месяцев назад +2

    Quicksilver Messenger Service: the piece is “The Fool,” which name I assume is a play on Follia. It’s not easy to find because it’s only two or three repetitions near the end of a 10-15 minute (iirc) song.

    • @donlake8619
      @donlake8619 10 месяцев назад

      LOVED this episode btw.

  • @Banglish123
    @Banglish123 10 месяцев назад +3

    I loved this video a refreshing change from the pop stuff. I might have a crack at writing a trance tune with this progression its quite quirky but it'll have to be in 4/4. (By the way you said Moog pretty sure its pronounced Moag ie rhymes with rogue)

  • @Poetslove
    @Poetslove 10 месяцев назад

    Great stuff as always David. I loved your piece at the end!

  • @markshveima
    @markshveima 10 месяцев назад

    So fascinating! And beautiful original composition! 👏👏👏

  • @stephenraybrown
    @stephenraybrown 9 месяцев назад

    Great stuff, David. I always learn something new from your videos, despite having studied guitar and pop/rock songwriting for 40 years. Cheers! (And BTW lovely composition.)

  • @axlhyvonen461
    @axlhyvonen461 10 месяцев назад

    These are so good, great, how I simply love and love a lot watching these🙂🙃

  • @composer7325
    @composer7325 7 месяцев назад

    excellent video, David, thank you.

  • @diarmuidsutton6231
    @diarmuidsutton6231 10 месяцев назад

    Superb David. Thank you.

  • @django-unchained
    @django-unchained 7 месяцев назад

    Back when I played Clasicla music in public Music School I never thought about chord progressions. Now when I do I really like these vids showing Classical :)

  • @fortunefavorsthebold3459
    @fortunefavorsthebold3459 10 месяцев назад

    Awesome composition at the end!!

  • @DalhartWX
    @DalhartWX 10 месяцев назад

    My new favorite chord progression. Love your vids:D

  • @Alexander-iq5yq
    @Alexander-iq5yq 15 дней назад

    Another way to look at is a bunch of tonic and dominant movements in a relative major/minor pair. Its I-V-I in the minor key, then V-I-V in the relative major. Then I-V in minor again, approached via a deceptive resolution.