That's because 'horde' derives from the turkic word 'ordu', meaning a camp of nomadic people. It originally designated a lifestyle, without any reference to how many people were living it. It didn't take on its current meaning in European languages until the 17th century
@@chicc73 You're quite correct: that is the plain meaning of the word in modern Turkish, which has undergone considerable evolution from the 16th/17th century form that gave the word 'horde' to European languages. I am no expert in the Turkic language family, (or Turkish, the language of modern Turkey, for that matter) but from a little research it seems that within Ottoman Turkish, the version of the language spoken up until the linguistic reforms of Kemal Ataturk's government, the word's meaning shifted from 'a nomadic camp' generally to 'the royal camp,' the camp of the Ottoman sultan. By this time the Ottomans were no longer themselves nomadic, and the camp only came into being when the Ottoman sultans went to war. So 'royal camp' gets connotations of specifically 'war camp,' and over time it loses the connection with the war camp of the sultan and becomes a general term for a military camp or outpost. This is where the city of Ordu on the Black Sea gets its name apparently, from its origins as a permanent military outpost. This process of linguistic evolution continued into modern times, when the sense of a 'camp' was lost entirely and the word simply came to mean 'army' in modern Turkish.
@@benjaminrobertson2990 Dude Ordu or Orda is not only a Turkic name, you should use a more neutral terms like Nomadic in general, You guys always forget about the Mongolic side of things. Turks and Mongols lived together before they got the name Mongols or Turks, Mongols and Turks exchanged cultural things alot through out the history, Golden Horde is Tatar-Mongolic and it has almost too little connection to Oghuz Turks. Kiphack Turks(Kazakhs,Uzbeks,Tatars) are more suited for your claimed Nomadic Turkic cultures than Turkish Ottomans Orda(Which Mongols still use today is should be conjoined word for Nomadics) As for Turkish* its a different story, most people are Kurdic,Greekish,Indo European and Anatolian mixed people with mostly Arabic Persian Culture with Turkic language only! to be brutally honest no offence.
Next roleplay: William the Conqueror Rules: You must start in the north west of France (anywhere in Normandy), however after gaining some land (cant be too much, look at the Norman borders during William's time to determine the size) you must conquer Great Britain before advancing on the rest of the map. (unless someone is free for the takings)
Some challenges: Play as Vatican City and reform the Papal States, then conquering the world Play as the Holy Roman Empire and conquer the world *Play as the Eastern Roman Empire/Byzantines and conquer the world*
Historic Mongol Challenge/No Boat Challenge: You are not allowed to use boats until you have conquered 100% of the current land mass(es) you are on. Including when others attack you by boat.
Just watched on of your videos you got some good content, keep up the grind! Also i really appreciate what you said in your video. It is super to cool to hear i've inspired someone to make content. I am pretty new myself to content.
Day 1 of asking thegraveone:could u beat the game without killing any bots (No team mode allowed only world map and u cant spawn in africa but u could send troops to there)
The corporate board is amazing friend to play with
WE NEED TO FIND THE CORPORATE BOARD
Yes couldn’t agree more with you
I never comment, but I was 'Europe to Space' in that last game actually, very funny to see it from a different perspective
XD if you find me (transoxiana, light blue timurids sucessor state in eu4) that would be funny
Your a monster you know that
Idk whether you are the real one. But if you are " As a person from mongol horde point of view I'll says that you are a monster 👹
Nice man you should comment more never know when ya get like 3 k likes
How dare you kill our beloved corporate board. Jk lol
It’s interesting how everyone refers to them as the mongol ‘horde’, when I’m fact they were usually outnumbered by those they attacked
That's because 'horde' derives from the turkic word 'ordu', meaning a camp of nomadic people. It originally designated a lifestyle, without any reference to how many people were living it. It didn't take on its current meaning in European languages until the 17th century
@@benjaminrobertson2990 but i thought ordu meant army?
@@chicc73 You're quite correct: that is the plain meaning of the word in modern Turkish, which has undergone considerable evolution from the 16th/17th century form that gave the word 'horde' to European languages.
I am no expert in the Turkic language family, (or Turkish, the language of modern Turkey, for that matter) but from a little research it seems that within Ottoman Turkish, the version of the language spoken up until the linguistic reforms of Kemal Ataturk's government, the word's meaning shifted from 'a nomadic camp' generally to 'the royal camp,' the camp of the Ottoman sultan.
By this time the Ottomans were no longer themselves nomadic, and the camp only came into being when the Ottoman sultans went to war. So 'royal camp' gets connotations of specifically 'war camp,' and over time it loses the connection with the war camp of the sultan and becomes a general term for a military camp or outpost. This is where the city of Ordu on the Black Sea gets its name apparently, from its origins as a permanent military outpost.
This process of linguistic evolution continued into modern times, when the sense of a 'camp' was lost entirely and the word simply came to mean 'army' in modern Turkish.
@@benjaminrobertson2990 very interesting , thank you for your time
@@benjaminrobertson2990 Dude Ordu or Orda is not only a Turkic name, you should use a more neutral terms like Nomadic in general,
You guys always forget about the Mongolic side of things. Turks and Mongols lived together before they got the name Mongols or Turks,
Mongols and Turks exchanged cultural things alot through out the history, Golden Horde is Tatar-Mongolic and it has almost too little connection to Oghuz Turks.
Kiphack Turks(Kazakhs,Uzbeks,Tatars) are more suited for your claimed Nomadic Turkic cultures than Turkish Ottomans
Orda(Which Mongols still use today is should be conjoined word for Nomadics)
As for Turkish* its a different story, most people are Kurdic,Greekish,Indo European and Anatolian mixed people with mostly Arabic Persian Culture with Turkic language only! to be brutally honest no offence.
Corporate Board is a legend lol
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Lol
Corp was the MVP of that last 2 games.
Corporate Board is the MVP of the century
Hey dude! I was "The Corporate Board". It's crazy to see myself in a RUclips video! (i still go by that name btw)
i have heard stories of you around and playing. ggs!
Nobody:
Genghis Khan: GIMME THE WORLD
Churchill: NO, GIVE ME THE WORLD
Also Genghis Khan - *fails to take Japan*
@@randomized_sam7169 i dont think it was genghis who sent the fleet i think it was kublai khan
Love the videos, keep up the good work
Glad you like them!
Ye
Next roleplay: William the Conqueror
Rules: You must start in the north west of France (anywhere in Normandy), however after gaining some land (cant be too much, look at the Norman borders during William's time to determine the size) you must conquer Great Britain before advancing on the rest of the map. (unless someone is free for the takings)
Yooo I remember I did this.
Starting out in an accurate position is the toughest part.
love the video keep up the good work
I told you we would get you to 10k before the end of the year, dreams come true buddy
World map: mongol empire
Caucus map: Ilkhanate
Europe map: Golden Horde
The Golden Horde would work for the Caucus map too though.
@@Vessel767 yeah but it would only consist of the very north portion of the map with only the very south of the golden horde
Corporate Board be like: I got you fam
Love the videos, can you try doing using percentages scaling up with size such as 10000 power is 1% and 100000 is 10% and further on!
1k likes! Yess! Love your personality and humor bro.
Love ur vids grave hopefully you get to 10k subs! 🙏
Still remember me? Still loving the vids btw! Soon i hope you'll reach 100k subs, maybe higher, good luck!
My man corporate bread for life😍😍😍😍
You know it’s a good day when Grave uploads. I have now created your nickname: Grave. We, your fans are the Gravittles, Grave + skittles.
found your Channel after a drew vid snd your videos are awesome
drew durnil
Appreciated the sneaky frame. Poor m i l f.
"I think to be honest, lets go after suicide here..."
*yes*
Hello prob the only icelandic person here but I really want to see this Icelandic empire. Hope everyone lokes
THX FOR VIDEO! AMAZING WORK
Also love your vids keep up the good work!
LETS GO!
8:15 JAHY-SAMA IS REBUILDING THE DARK REALM
He said “Noiiiiiiiiice” like 10 times but it never got old
GET THIS MAN TO A 1000 LIKES!!!!
Grave u killed me I was the Ottoman Empire 😂
I was Nutz
9:17 good job making the imposter “Umi” leave there can only be one “Umi”…Umicad.
Nice going, Ghengis
Let's get that Iceland challenge going!
i really enjoy watching your Territorial Content, please keep it up =) Btw: 955 Likes at this moment ;)
the like goal has been met, prepare yourself grave
Some challenges:
Play as Vatican City and reform the Papal States, then conquering the world
Play as the Holy Roman Empire and conquer the world
*Play as the Eastern Roman Empire/Byzantines and conquer the world*
Bro this video was very fun
Can you do the santa challenge which is just spawn at the top of green land and only attack people that attack you
Yes
Nice video btw which country are you from??
Grave:if this video get 1k like i will play as island
subscribers:"boys its show time"
Is this what John Walker did after he gave up the shield?
Challenge idea: you have to all-in everyone who attacks you, no matter their size
that would be crazy but probably take many tries
corporate is such a gigachad
Become the Florida empire
bro you knocked me out as the mongol horde in a game before
Historic Mongol Challenge/No Boat Challenge: You are not allowed to use boats until you have conquered 100% of the current land mass(es) you are on. Including when others attack you by boat.
Spawns on a island
Living the dream recording videos and getting high hahah
Hey I saw you in one of my games!
14:01 song name?
Hey Grave you should do a Kahoot on countries and stuff on a live stream
Indian empire as Gandhi!
*THERE IS NO SHAME IN DETERRENCE*
Yo i was corporate, cant belive i didnt see this till now. that was fun
63% done on our way to 1000
We were talking about this
Can you do the greek empire (Alexander The Great) I forgot the name of it
It was a good idea that before you all in you just showed your ally that he musst attack you.
well do the iceland challenge now :D
i cant wait for icelandic empire good luck btw
Player named China: Oh shit!
Do one with Byzantine empire (aka eastern roman empire).😏😏
I started making content because of your videos. I hope to someday get to your level and colab!
Just watched on of your videos you got some good content, keep up the grind! Also i really appreciate what you said in your video. It is super to cool to hear i've inspired someone to make content. I am pretty new myself to content.
@@TheGraveOne 😇
Iceland game incoming!!
Let's get it to 1k everybody!
hapy khan noises
mongols and corporate board
We will always love corporate board
ay no way Corporate Board here😂
Ayo, im corporate board, your welcome
music was a little loud
Yesterday when i played i saw your name one grave one in india
2:17 " if i get 1k likes.. " video has 3k likes: * Profusely sweating *
*Mongolian throat singing intensifies*
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Love this
I saw you in game and you where in the koreas called mongol horde was it you?
Iirc corporate board and i have an alliance too in battle royale mode lol, but we died
pucker up boyo
OMFG INWAS IN THAT GAME
How much of this game is just going to become people role playing?
yooo, im like 80% sure that I was in that first game
Day 1 of asking thegraveone:could u beat the game without killing any bots
(No team mode allowed only world map and u cant spawn in africa but u could send troops to there)
Damn you gave up on this one huh
This guy gained 35 likes in 14 minutes, I gained 0 likes in 1 year, I have high hopes for this channel.
Corporate board more like The Best Board
Where Ethiopia?
Yes
I wish I was this good
Just one drew durnil video did all this
Saw him about month and half
Hahaha got the 1k likes man
Icelandic Empire will rise
Poland can't into space!
Do the Finnish Empire for christmas please
Genghis Khan is proud
“The Mongol Empire” was in Asia not europe.
but it had european lands
Do ice land
based video
another 100 subs
Nice