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@@ootis8733 it doesnt matter what gear you are in,..,.when you are not pushing on it falls into the same position. take a picture of it so you can put it back in the same position.
When reinstalling the new shaft and shifter arm, slide the shaft through the shaft housing,slap some red loctite on the splines of the shaft and slide shifter arm on being careful not to get loctite in shaft housing, and tighten screw, let sit and cure. Finish assembly and most likely you never fool with or have issues again. Done mine like that and had success.
Excellent video, I would add that ALL bolts need to have blue Loctite on them which includes the pinch bolt for the transmission shaft shift arm. I also add some grease to the shift shaft that you replaced which makes it rotate super smooth. Keep up the great videos - Ride on 👍
I've told a bunch of my buddies about your Channel I don't run a bagger I got a night train but they're all in the baggers always willing to support anybody or anything from Southern Illinois
Jezz, Guess I can admit that I lost the Shifter twice on my 2014 Street Glide Special. Once on a long Sunday ride. Got off the highway and had no shifter lever. Was able to ride to Rockford, IL HD Dealer & they were Wonderful. Other time I was able to improvise a shifter and get to my Dealer & had fixed. Probably cost me over $200 if you add up the costs and tips I gave to those who went above and beyond. One repair was handled under warranty I seem to remember. In case someone has concerns: Only other issue I have had with my 2014 is the life of the speakers. I seem to blow out the speakers....ever since High School!!! Really appreciate your videos. Just wish your Shop was closer to Chicago but glad that you do not have to be. Southern Illinois is a different State. Thank you.
Yeah such an easy fix man and costs dudes a lot of money because its not caught in time. I have a bucket of HD speakers you can have...they are crap man and youre going to keep blowing them. So many better speakers out there for a lot cheaper than those from HD and fosgate plug and play junk. and hahahha yeah man...southern Illinois is another state...I was visiting up there in Chicago this year and damn...one week was enough lol
I recently purchased a 2016 Electra Glide Limited, and this was one of the first things I noticed, and thanks to your video I know I can do it myself. Thanks
Exactly that happened to me this weekend but it mess, so I’ve to fix it “quick” before to see your video, I’ve my new parts!!! Let’s go to surgery! Thanks a lot!! Great content!
Good video but you also should change the two bushings in the inner primary boss that the splined shaft slides through. Easy with the proper JIMS tool. Also drill that boss and add a grease zerk so it can be greased. Never a problem again.
So glad that I found your video, VERY helpful! 5 miles from home yesterday on my 14 Road King, accelerating into traffic and the WT# moment struck! Looks like a simple fix, thanks for the very clear and easy to follow video. New subscriber.
yeah I'm sorry that happned...it sucks, I know...but glad the video helped! Its pretty straight forward swap out. Thank you for the sub! Much appreciated!
Not to bad at all for an 08...I had not heard that there was much trouble on the older bikes but I guess they have had a bad design for some years now. Thank you sir..much appreciated.
I have fixed lots of these in my carreer 😖 I like the fact that your not another youtuber begging for money on patreon 🖒, this is what made me subscribe thanks for being real😁
Thanks for this. Had my toe shifter turn to mush while down shifting on the way home on my 2010 FLHP in Phoenix today. Ended up not being able to get out of 3rd gear with 2 miles to go before home and half a dozen traffic lights to get through. 1st time I've had to get a bike rolling from a stop in 3rd gear. But she did it a few times and I made it home, just. Was glad to find this video and know that the fix was cheap and easy. You just got a new sub.
I'm really glad I watched this video. Went out and checked my 2016 Trike and the slop is there. (I'm the 2nd owner). I will be getting the parts tomorrow!
After what seemed to be a lifetime, I was able to acquire my first HD back in May 2024, which is a '95 FXDWG. The bike only had 17k miles on it, yet there was a substantial amount of slop in the shifter. Due to my ignorance, I put off having it corrected, not knowing it would create a much bigger problem by doing so. Other than occassionally having trouble finding neutral, the bike ran and shifted fine, until one day when I grabbed the clutch and lifted the shifter to put it in neutral to start it up and after a brief moment of tension, the shifter just flopped backwards. No tension at all on the shifter or any connected levers all the way back as far as I could trace, which of course, is to the shifter rod coming out of the transmission. I've had some folks say that the shifting forks have just slipped and need to be reset, some say they've worn out and need to be replaced, others say the shifting pawl is to blame, which I don't fully understand bc I thought the pawl prevents it from slipping out of gear rather than shifting into gear, others have said the shifting rod going into the transmission needs to be replaced, and a very small percentage have said I need to replace the entire transmission. Out of all the research I've done and comments I heard, the only fact that I'm 100% confident about is that after 2 months now my bike is still sitting collecting dust. I don't have the money to take it to the shop or confidence to tear it open not knowing what the issue most likely is or what I'm looking for. I'm pretty good at following directions and attention to detail, but lack the experience to feel comfortable removing bolts and components in attempt to make a diagnosis. Any advice or link to videos or other content that may be helpful would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I had mine go after a month, brand new bike, Good thing I was in town and limped it to Harley for replacing under warranty. They said it's a common problem. My Bike is a 2015 Road Glide. Wish I had seen this video a few yrs back but at least I know now! Thanks.
Got the same slop on my 15, last year. Was on the way home from a day long ride, and ended up kicking the shifter off in my garage... I got lucky! No joke, get it fixed. Great video Steve.
Thanks Steve, I've had the issue of the shifter becoming loose, luckily I was only a half mile from the house when I went to shift and it fell on my floorboard. Surprisingly I don't have any slop but I'm ordering parts and replacing anyway. Thanks again for the DIY videos.
Ha ! On my way back from Laconia to Pa.my shifts were becoming strange considering I have had no problems with my 2013 Street Glide since I bought it. I am convinced that I need the lever and shaft because I had difficulty adjusting it and was pretty sloppy . Thanks so much !
Sik, thanks for this important video! I had this same issue with my 03' FLSTCI! As always, you make an excellent instructor, plain, easy to understand. Very helpful! God Bless you brother. Ride safe.
@@sikbaggers Steve I'm sure this issue has been beat to death but I wanted an honest opinion. I recently purchased a 2004 roadking custom with 22,500 miles on it. I'm not sure if it has been converted to the hydraulic cam tensioners or not but if it still has the spring tensioners how many miles do you think I can get out of them before they let loose?
Thanks for checking it out. But dont be fooled that it wont happen again because your hardware is tight.. ...these can strip without the hardware being loose... I keep my sleds tight and it still happened. ..its a bad design with too much stress on the spline at a wanky angle even HD knew that and changed it in 2017...keep an eye on it because the replacement parts are the exact same thing you just took out...it was not upgraded.
Thank you for this! New HD owner (not new to 2 wheels), '16 RGU does this same exact thing. Your video took the worry out of this issue, and shows it's an easy fix. Parts ordered, liked, and subscribed!
Hey Shawn! playing catch up on my comments after daytona bike week! Glad the video helped you and yes its very common on these bikes and super easy quick fix...best to keep a spare in the saddlebag to be honest lol Glad it helped and thank you for the SUB!
2021 FLHTK just went in for my 5k service. Tech noticed a little oil at the rear shaft (8:49 in your video). I also mentioned to the service advisor how loose my front shifter linkage seemed. You could clearly see it dancing around at idle. Still under warranty, pulling the cases off next week. Sadly I just did a new clutch and Man o War comp. Hate to see that pulled apart. Excellent Videos!!!
oh man...I just put one of those man o wars in a bike, that thing is pretty sick...sorry to hear about the issues youre having with this though...but thats what the warranties are good for, well, as long as HD has the parts or can get them in a timely manner lol
Just changed mine 2016 street glide had plenty of slop none now great video just had bike serviced at dealership they said nothing about but thanks to your video I fixed it before it came off thanks again
Thats great Rod...sucks that your dealership didnt catch it though. They could have at least mentioned it to you. A full service should cover going over all critical fasteners.
Had the exact issue, didn't fall off but stripped enough I couldn't change gears. Great video that helped make the replacement of the shaft and shifter simple and fast. I love it when a fix is straightforward and does the job! Why is it Harley allowed this simple mechanical issue to persist through so many year of bikes??? Why can't someone make a set of hardened parts that will not wear out every 10 years??
I agree...when I purchased these parts I went back and asked my buddy in service if the parts had improved or if they were the same ones I was replacing. He said its the same parts. Then he said they keep a ton of them in stock because guys are replacing them all the time. I said dont you think if it was this big of an issue there should be a recall? He just laughed and said good luck .In 2017 they did manage to change they way this is mounted up but I have to see if it "fixed" the issue.
This happened to my 2014 SGS about a year ago. the shifters didn’t come off but the shaft was stripped out so I couldn’t shift up or down. Had Harley fix it and was told it was probably because I was kicking the shifter arms to hard. LOL I know how I ride and Im certainly not jamming gears. Anyway it was around $150 to get it fixed. I feel it is a design problem. if it happens again, I know how to fix it myself now. Thanks for the video!
yeah pretty common issue with these year models...they definitely know that its and issue as they have corrected it in the the newer models but still refuse to own it and make a recall. Blows my mind.
yes there are bushings inside but it is rare that they are bad...you can change them and even get them from hd or other vendors when you pick up the new lever...not to bad to change either.
Perfect video!! I just had this happen on my '15 RG Special. Bike would not get out of 1st gear, with a shit ton of slop. Thanks so much for this vid!!
Unfortunately just on my video alone there are tons of stories with the same issue and Hd never addressed it, they just changed it on the M8 version in 2017 and it seems the issues have gone away. But they will keep selling us parts to fix it.
Just found this gem, after finding my ‘14 Ultra Limited’s arm wobbling like an 18 y/o after their first happy hour. Will pull it apart & likely go with the shaft. Didn’t look closer, but wonder if the problem is with hardness in shaft? Bike only has 10k miles on it
I seem to have a similar issue on an 07 RKC. Your fix took care of the problem without R/R the bushings like other videos recommended. I changed out my shift linkage today and it was easy. I also removed the shift shaft and cleaned it up. Moisture does get in there. The new shift rod made a lot of difference. Shifts real solid. (2007 Road King Classic.) I have had the stock shift linkage since 2007.
Yeah the bushing can be changed but usually is not the issue. Ive had guys on here saying the same thing...you should have changed the bushings...well I would have IF they needed it but they didnt so why waste your time and money when this is the issue. Makes no sense. Glad you got it lined out.
@@sikbaggers Thanks SIK. I agree about wasting money on a bushing change. I did the R/R of the linkage today with a nicer HD lever. Did take out the shift shaft and cleaned it up. Moisture does get int there. The new linkage sure makes a lot of difference. Thanks again for the video. Nice job.
Mine just fell off tonight luckily I had a couple of zip ties on the bike to hold it in place after I tighten the bolt up. I will be heading to Harley in the am to get new parts and definitely going to check that rear bolt, I have a lot of slop on mine
yeah man I get this same comment at least once a week...Im glad the video helped and its a shame that HD doesn't recognize this as a problem more than making more parts to sell us...there clearly should have been a global recall on this issue. Instead, they let us foot the bill. Pretty typical of HD
Thanks for the All you do and post to help us!!! I see where peope say they use zip ties incase they break down.. Do you or anyone have a pic or info how to use the zip ties?
yeah man its really common issue...If you lost it then this was more than likely the problem. Just change it all out and you'll be good for another 2 years lol..they said they didnt upgrade any of the hardware even though they know its an issue.
My bad day was today, stranded on the highway. It happed just as you described, never knew this was an issue. This is a 2016 FLTRU that just had a 20K service at harley about 1000 miles ago, hoping the repair will not be too expensive.
I think the parts were about 100 bucks or so.,..not sure what they charge for labor but it shouldn't be more than an hour...its really easy to change. Glad you found the issue....its a pretty crap day when it happens for sure.
@@sikbaggers Repair with parts and labor from Harley came to $148.78. The hassle of the day and tow came to more than the repair. I'm glad I found your channel, stay safe my friend.
like I explained in the video its way more time consuming,...youll need to pull your outer and inner primary to access that. That one doesn't usually loosen up like the front.
EXCELLENT video, thoroughly explained the how and why about these parts. I found the video after getting ready to take a ride with my 6 y/o. The foot pedals just sheared off trying to find neutral. I imagine if it had happened while riding, it could be fairly dangerous! Blessed that it happened before the ride. And I’m happy to now have the knowledge and ability to fix and prevent this in the future. My question now is…has any aftermarket company come up with a better option? My bike is a 2011 FLHX
Thank you for your kind words about the video and I'm glad it helped you understand the issue with your Harley's shift shaft. It's fortunate that the foot pedals sheared off before your ride, as it could indeed have been dangerous if it happened while you were riding. It's great that you now have the knowledge and ability to fix and prevent this problem in the future. As far as the replacement...I havent had one come back after installing the Drag Specialties shift shaft...here is the part www.denniskirk.com/drag-specialties/shifter-shaft-1602-0873.p577379.prd/577379.sku its a matter of time to tell if it holds up better than the OEM one.
great video , I have a 2013 electra glide ultra, I have replaced the shaft and slop is stil there but not as much, i am thinking maybe the bushings need replacing also...
Thank you very much for this video. I thought I was going to have to shell big bucks to fix this. Then I watched your video and I was able to fix it myself. Very grateful.
Thanks a lot for this video I have a 2013 FLHTC and this just happened to me last week as far as everything seems to be slipping on the shaft I tried to tighten down to make sure everything was tighten down onto the shaft but everything still slips when I try to shift. So again thank you very much for this video
This happened to me on my 2016 Road Glide Ultra last year on I-65 on a Sunday afternoon. Stranded my wife and I on the side of the highway halfway between Louisville and Bowling Green . Fortunately bike was still under warranty and Louisville H-D brought me out the two parts I needed to repair it myself ( I carry enough tools for minor repairs). Oh and did I mention we were traveling from our home in Rochester NY to Clarksville TN. Was not one of our fondest memories to say the least.
Thank you for this video i just had my shifter go out on way home today had one gear 2nd for 12 miles lol this video was very informative now to order new parts so i can get bike back on the road
Nice video, thanks. What do you think about the greasable shifter shaft? I found this looking around and I thought it might help with this issue which I have as well. Pingel Greasable Shifter Shaft 62142
Had mine fly off on I-80 at 75mph on my old bike 01' electra glide ultra couch. It was NOT sloppy before hand. The shifter side bolt was still in the shifter when I picked it up off the road. The bolt is fully threaded and the threads sheared off inside the groove allowing it to vibrate off. Solution is to use a hardened shank bolt. That way a full solid shank is in the groove not a few threads that wear over time. 2 ways to accomplish this seeing as no one makes a bolt this exact size. Example # 1) Take a same diameter solid shank bolt longer than the stock bolt and cut it to correct length, then thread the end. Example # 2) drill out shifter lever and back lever threads and put in a correct diameter solid shank bolt with threads that start past the other end then add a washer, lock washer, nut, cap nut . You can get this bolt at any hardware store. Yes this looks like over kill but it worked for me for 3 years before I did example #1. Metric bikes use aluminum shift levers that partially crush on the steel shift rod, not steel on steel like Harley's and they use solid shank bolts. Both my dirt bikes, KTM 690 and my 1st gen KLR 650 Kawasaki have this setup. Hope this helps somebody.
I had a full strip happen on the way of of four corners monument headed towards the grand canyon. I figured out how to jockey shift grabbing the shift rod with my hand to get me 3 hours down the road to the next HD shop.
First time viewer of your video. Nice job, easy to follow along... I'm a new fan! I'm looking to change out my shifter linkage on my 2014 Street Glide Special. I like the one on your ride.
Had my rear shifter come off while riding on 2008 Street Glide. Went to put it in first from stop and it just fell forward. Managed to get it barely back on and limped home 10 miles in second. I spent many hours under the bike to get a new arm back on without taking off the whole primary. Had to spread the rear arm to get it on. Lets hope I get a few more years.
Thank you! Much appreciated. Itll have some very slight play in as the shaft just rides in that casing...just make sure everything is tight...Mine was pretty sloppy loose and I didnt loose it...but I had the second one on hand just in case as I knew it was going bad.
Oh other thing you might want to try....It worked for me great. When you take the "shift shaft" out next time..drill and tap one wall of the sleeve for a zerk grease fitting. I did that to mine and every so often I hook up the grease gun and shoot in some new grease. You would be surprised the amount of water that pushes out . Not sure why Harley didn't do that from the beginning.
Thank you sir for this video. Excellently done. This is definitely something that needs to get done on my 2013 TK. As far as that rear lever goes. I have tried to get to the bolt that holds the rear lever on (the one behind the primary) and I cant see or get to that bolt at all. It just seems to be at a really tight angle. Second, I'm hearing a noise thats coming from some kind of slop but not sure if its the slop in the gear shift levers. When I'm coasting in gear, no power applied, and then I accelerate I hear a clank like as if slack in the primary chain is being taken up or maybe something else. I could try this fix but I have a feel I'm in for a whole lot more and thinking of just taking it to the stealership.
More than likely it is your compensator...check out videos on replacing your comp with a Man O War compensator......if its got slack in it now itll soon go
@@sikbaggers Thanks bro. I had the dealership test ride it yesterday. On the ride out, I noticed its most noticeable in 5th gear so I told them that. After the ride he said it could be the compensatory or the main bearing (Och). I'm thinking of riding it until I hear it getting worse. What would happen if the compensator goes? Am I calling a tow truck? Will I hear something that tells me I better get back home before I'm stuck?
Thanks! I was definitely on the wrong track. Was about to order new heel-toe levers. To be sure, the foot levers do not need to be replaced? (mine fell off, are sliding around on the shaft) Awesome video!
Great info for sure....My 13 RG had that issue and left me having to shift by hand by leaning over and grabbing the lever to get it to the shop. You are correct on the fix from HD. I just purchased a 19 RGU and changed out the levers and noticed that the stock hrdwr has been improved. Not threaded into levers but using captive nylock nuts and the levers are aluminum now. The 19s have alot of little improvements that I was not aware of but overall makes the bike that much better. Thanks.
Yes sir....It was one of the first things I noticed on the 17 ups...they seem to have lined out the issue but man it took a few years...lots of guys riding the 14 to 16s now and this is for sure something to be aware of.
Great video. Very helpful. I replaced the shift lever shaft and while retightening the pinch bolt on the inner shift lever I snapped the head off the pinch bolt. Overzealous I suppose. Luckily I was able to remove the shift lever and only needed to replace the bolt. Maybe it was just time for a new bolt? 😂
New to the HD world and this channel is awesome. Went out and checked and sure enough, its got some play. Question, what shift pedals and linkage is that? Its a lot beefier than stock
Thanks for checking it out tim...and the shift rod is made by performance machine however I cannot find it in chrome now when I just looked to send you a link...they still make them in black and various other designs in chrome though..and the pegs were a one off but you can find very similar ones from joel at JH Choppers. I have his stuff on my softail build and its great quality all made in house by him. jhchoppers.com/product-category/heel-toe-shifters/ make sure to check all of his other matching parts that goes with these...he makes it all. I hope this helps!
Steven I ride a Victory, on our trip 2017 we had three of my friends Harley go down because of this, we was on the side of the highway repairing the shift linkage just so we can make to a shop that was one crazy day not 1 but 3 bikes it was about 20 bikes ...now all my Harley brothers carry spare shifter and shaft
Holy cow man I bet that was a long day...terrible design for sure...at least they tried to fix the issue in 17. Always smart to carry a few extra parts and some cheap tools in the bags for sure.
The problem is not in the design. It’s the materials. You have aluminum or pot metal tightening down onto hardened steel. The soft metal is going to wear down easily and become loose.
In 2017 they changed the design, same materials, different design. No more issues. However I do agree with you, thats basic physics at work on these parts and the whole thing should have been thought out a lot better than it was. Its cost the touring model owners a substantial a mount of their own money to fix. For what we pay for these..thats unacceptable in my opinion.
@@sikbaggers I agree with you...Harley owners chug out alot of money for their machines and after that they still have to face inferior design or parts or ancient tech, then Harley really needs to look into it seriously.
Excellent video! Thank you! You are very informative and directly to the task at hand. I really appreciate that! So many folks like to just flat out talk too much. LOL! Thanks again. Y'all stay safe and well.
I had this happen to me yesterday on my way home.. thankfully I was only two blocks from my house. I remember seeing your video awhile back so I watched it again.. Afrerwards I looked up the part numbers for shaft and lever on the Harley site today and it's not coming up.
these parts wont come up on the HD website...check a HD website that is a store... www.surdyke.com/PartsMain.aspx?PartNumber=33709-82A&SubCatID=&CatID=&Name=&CatName=SHIFTER%20SHAFT%20LEVER,%20GEAR AND www.surdyke.com/PartsMain.aspx?PartNumber=33718-82B&SubCatID=&CatID=&Name=&CatName=
Mine is loose like that and I believe it’s what is causing my heel toe shifter to not be able to catch on the splines causing the shifters to just freely move without shifting. The rear shaft is good and tight
Great Video, I subscribed. 2007 Road King, the aftermarket heel shifter is giving me problems. Heading out to the garage now to look closer at all this. Thank you for adding the part numbers. May I ask a dumb question? Does HD have both a service manual and a parts manual?? For instance, in the boating world, Mercury marine publishes both a service manual AND a parts manual. The parts manual is a must have. Thank you!
Sorry for the late reply...been at Tail Of The Dragon for a week. You can see all of the parts numbers here at this link, put in your year and bike and then you can open each section of the bike and scroll down to see part numbers partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche.com/ronnies/showmodel.asp
@SIK Baggers, I have a 09 eletra glide. Would the part number be the same as yours? Mine is just slightly lose, but after seeing your video I want to fix mine right away. Thank you for the detailed information in your videos.
great vid. I have a 1988 FLHTC the rear slop is so bad it is wearing a notch in the back plate of the rear primary cover. I tried to tighten that bolt but the rear shift arm will not come off the shaft coming out of the trans gear box. Question : Does the inner primary have to be pulled to replace that rear shifter lever on a 88?
@@sikbaggers Do you have a vid about pulling the inner primary case? Is that a job that you woudl think a shop is needed or just how challenging is ti to get all that back in place once you pull it? I guess my only other question woudl be what else needs to be checked or replaced while in there. Thanks again . Glad i found your channel.
I'm glad HD changed the shift lever design from the early models (1992) so they actually tighten now instead of wobbling around and eating the splines.
yes they did make a major change in them and they should have recalled these...they knew it was an issue and did nothing about expect provide the exact part to replace it with and let it break again and again..it was a money maker for HD
Hey great vid very informative. So you mentioned the back one being a ton of money to fix. That's the one that is sloppy on mine. Do you have a how-to on doing that one?
Age old problem with the dressers. Some fixes on my 93 FLHS..... Open the gap on the locking screw on the tranny lever. This allows for a tighter fit. (seems to be where my slack always wanted to start) Silicone on the shift shaft with rubber "O" rings on each end after you put the shaft in the primary and before the levers go on. The silicone dampens the vibrations and takes up the slack between the bushings in the primary housing and the shift shaft. The "O"rings take up end play. After fighting this problem for years I now get 2-3 years between having to tighten things and just have to replace the silicone and "O"rings. Just food for thought as this is a much cheaper fix than replacing parts every couple of years. Old bike, Old fart compromises.
@@martincvitkovich724 It doesn't stick to the bushings or the shaft that well. It requires a little extra effort to remove but nothing that can't be done by hand. Then you just roll the silicone off the metal, reapply and start over.
@@sittinbullmb Is the silicone like gasket sealer or bath and tub caulk? Exactly, what do you use? I used to use gasket maker on nuts and bolts and other parts to keep old British bikes from vibrating parts, so I'm hip to your concept, just like to know exactly what you use
@@martincvitkovich724 The last I bought was from Harbor Freight. I picked it up with their rubber O-ring assortment.. Black automotive RTV Silicone. I have used High Temp Black silicone also. Just whatever was available. When you first put it in and it sets you will think it will never come out but the constant movements of just regular shifting will begin to wear it down. Once you notice it getting loose again it will pull out. Silicone by it's very nature doesn't like to be moved around. That is what makes this work so well. New bushings and a new shaft are the tightest way to go but the silicone can be done in less time and way cheaper. I'm banging on a budget most of the time so I save where I can. When I did replace the shaft many years ago I put the silicone to the new shaft and have just kept an eye on it for extra motion. Once it bugs me I pull it and replace the silicone.
Great Video Steven. I have a 2016 ultra and I was wondering if it is normal to have some side to side play in the rear lever. Mine is ok as far as front to back which seems to indicate that my splines are still ok.
thank you paul...if you read the comments here you will see in the last 4 years since I released this video its a pretty common thing to happen...always good to keep a spare in the saddlebag or make sure yours is tight...thanks for checking it out!
I just changed my stator and shift lever and when I started my bike my chain sounds like it’s flying all over the place. Just wondering if it’s because the chain tensioner hasn’t expanded yet. Rode it a couple of blocks but still sounds the same. Is this normal after a stator change? This video was very helpful when I switched this out. Thanks.
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Does bike need to be in neutral?
Good eve.. does bike need to be in neutral
@@ootis8733 it doesnt matter what gear you are in,..,.when you are not pushing on it falls into the same position. take a picture of it so you can put it back in the same position.
It’s awesome to finally have somebody explain some thing and leave their attitude in their toolbox. Great videos man very very helpful.
Thank you Jeff...glad the video helped sir!
When reinstalling the new shaft and shifter arm, slide the shaft through the shaft housing,slap some red loctite on the splines of the shaft and slide shifter arm on being careful not to get loctite in shaft housing, and tighten screw, let sit and cure. Finish assembly and most likely you never fool with or have issues again. Done mine like that and had success.
Excellent video, I would add that ALL bolts need to have blue Loctite on them which includes the pinch bolt for the transmission shaft shift arm.
I also add some grease to the shift shaft that you replaced which makes it rotate super smooth.
Keep up the great videos - Ride on 👍
Same issue and same fix.. didn't realize until it fell off! Thanks for the vid and keep them coming.. Cheers!
Thanks brother!
I've told a bunch of my buddies about your Channel I don't run a bagger I got a night train but they're all in the baggers always willing to support anybody or anything from Southern Illinois
Sorry for the late reply, I just got back from Sturgis and thank you for the support!! Its greatly appreciated sir!
Thank you for putting the part numbers in the video description! Saved me a lot of time.
Youre verry welcome!
Jezz, Guess I can admit that I lost the Shifter twice on my 2014 Street Glide Special. Once on a long Sunday ride. Got off the highway and had no shifter lever. Was able to ride to Rockford, IL HD Dealer & they were Wonderful. Other time I was able to improvise a shifter and get to my Dealer & had fixed. Probably cost me over $200 if you add up the costs and tips I gave to those who went above and beyond. One repair was handled under warranty I seem to remember.
In case someone has concerns: Only other issue I have had with my 2014 is the life of the speakers. I seem to blow out the speakers....ever since High School!!!
Really appreciate your videos. Just wish your Shop was closer to Chicago but glad that you do not have to be. Southern Illinois is a different State. Thank you.
Yeah such an easy fix man and costs dudes a lot of money because its not caught in time. I have a bucket of HD speakers you can have...they are crap man and youre going to keep blowing them. So many better speakers out there for a lot cheaper than those from HD and fosgate plug and play junk. and hahahha yeah man...southern Illinois is another state...I was visiting up there in Chicago this year and damn...one week was enough lol
Love your videos, straight to the point with no BS. Thanks for putting these together, really helps the HD community.
thank you montes glad the video helped!
I just had to change these parts on my bike yesterday. I wish that I had seen this video first. Great job and good information!
I recently purchased a 2016 Electra Glide Limited, and this was one of the first things I noticed, and thanks to your video I know I can do it myself. Thanks
yes it is super simple to do and mine is still doing great and this video was shot quite a long time ago.
Did a 2,400-mile trip and the linkage broke on my '16 Road Glide 10 miles from my house! Great video. This has happened on two of my baggers...
yeah its pretty crazy how often this does happen and no recall from HD
I'm new to the touring world and your videos have already helped me repeatedly! Awesome explanations.
Thats awesome...thats what its all about..glad to help! Be safe!
Exactly that happened to me this weekend but it mess, so I’ve to fix it “quick” before to see your video, I’ve my new parts!!! Let’s go to surgery! Thanks a lot!! Great content!
Good video but you also should change the two bushings in the inner primary boss that the splined shaft slides through. Easy with the proper JIMS tool. Also drill that boss and add a grease zerk so it can be greased. Never a problem again.
So glad that I found your video, VERY helpful! 5 miles from home yesterday on my 14 Road King, accelerating into traffic and the WT# moment struck! Looks like a simple fix, thanks for the very clear and easy to follow video. New subscriber.
yeah I'm sorry that happned...it sucks, I know...but glad the video helped! Its pretty straight forward swap out. Thank you for the sub! Much appreciated!
Didn't realize this was covering what I've already done 3 times on my 08'. Not bad for 11 years though. Great Video!
Not to bad at all for an 08...I had not heard that there was much trouble on the older bikes but I guess they have had a bad design for some years now. Thank you sir..much appreciated.
I have fixed lots of these in my carreer 😖
I like the fact that your not another youtuber begging for money on patreon 🖒, this is what made me subscribe thanks for being real😁
Thanks for this. Had my toe shifter turn to mush while down shifting on the way home on my 2010 FLHP in Phoenix today. Ended up not being able to get out of 3rd gear with 2 miles to go before home and half a dozen traffic lights to get through. 1st time I've had to get a bike rolling from a stop in 3rd gear. But she did it a few times and I made it home, just. Was glad to find this video and know that the fix was cheap and easy. You just got a new sub.
Hey yeah it sucks and its very common issue...glad you got it lined out and more importantly you got her home safe and sound. I appreciate the sub!
I'm really glad I watched this video. Went out and checked my 2016 Trike and the slop is there. (I'm the 2nd owner). I will be getting the parts tomorrow!
Good deal...I hope you got it lined out!
It happened to me today,my buddy called a friend and he brought his trailer up to get it back home.Thank for the knowledge friend.
Sorry it got that far but glad the video helped!
After what seemed to be a lifetime, I was able to acquire my first HD back in May 2024, which is a '95 FXDWG. The bike only had 17k miles on it, yet there was a substantial amount of slop in the shifter. Due to my ignorance, I put off having it corrected, not knowing it would create a much bigger problem by doing so. Other than occassionally having trouble finding neutral, the bike ran and shifted fine, until one day when I grabbed the clutch and lifted the shifter to put it in neutral to start it up and after a brief moment of tension, the shifter just flopped backwards. No tension at all on the shifter or any connected levers all the way back as far as I could trace, which of course, is to the shifter rod coming out of the transmission. I've had some folks say that the shifting forks have just slipped and need to be reset, some say they've worn out and need to be replaced, others say the shifting pawl is to blame, which I don't fully understand bc I thought the pawl prevents it from slipping out of gear rather than shifting into gear, others have said the shifting rod going into the transmission needs to be replaced, and a very small percentage have said I need to replace the entire transmission. Out of all the research I've done and comments I heard, the only fact that I'm 100% confident about is that after 2 months now my bike is still sitting collecting dust. I don't have the money to take it to the shop or confidence to tear it open not knowing what the issue most likely is or what I'm looking for. I'm pretty good at following directions and attention to detail, but lack the experience to feel comfortable removing bolts and components in attempt to make a diagnosis. Any advice or link to videos or other content that may be helpful would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I had mine go after a month, brand new bike, Good thing I was in town and limped it to Harley for replacing under warranty. They said it's a common problem. My Bike is a 2015 Road Glide. Wish I had seen this video a few yrs back but at least I know now! Thanks.
Got the same slop on my 15, last year. Was on the way home from a day long ride, and ended up kicking the shifter off in my garage... I got lucky! No joke, get it fixed.
Great video Steve.
Yes sir...I hear this too many times and yes you did get lucky...man, no better timing than that! Thanks for checking out the video man and be safe!!
Thanks Steve, I've had the issue of the shifter becoming loose, luckily I was only a half mile from the house when I went to shift and it fell on my floorboard. Surprisingly I don't have any slop but I'm ordering parts and replacing anyway. Thanks again for the DIY videos.
Yeah man...good to have these on hand and easy to change
Thanks man. My shift lever slipped off today but I got it sorted quick thanks to your video
Ha ! On my way back from Laconia to Pa.my shifts were becoming strange considering I have had no problems with my 2013 Street Glide since I bought it. I am convinced that I need the lever and shaft because I had difficulty adjusting it and was pretty sloppy . Thanks so much !
Sik, thanks for this important video! I had this same issue with my 03' FLSTCI! As always, you make an excellent instructor, plain, easy to understand. Very helpful! God Bless you brother. Ride safe.
Thank you John, much appreciated sir. Im glad the videos have helped you! Be safe!
@@sikbaggers Steve I'm sure this issue has been beat to death but I wanted an honest opinion. I recently purchased a 2004 roadking custom with 22,500 miles on it. I'm not sure if it has been converted to the hydraulic cam tensioners or not but if it still has the spring tensioners how many miles do you think I can get out of them before they let loose?
Worn splines from loose hardware….just replaced all my shifter arms…..much tighter now…..cheers great video….
Thanks for checking it out. But dont be fooled that it wont happen again because your hardware is tight.. ...these can strip without the hardware being loose... I keep my sleds tight and it still happened. ..its a bad design with too much stress on the spline at a wanky angle even HD knew that and changed it in 2017...keep an eye on it because the replacement parts are the exact same thing you just took out...it was not upgraded.
Thank you for this! New HD owner (not new to 2 wheels), '16 RGU does this same exact thing. Your video took the worry out of this issue, and shows it's an easy fix. Parts ordered, liked, and subscribed!
Hey Shawn! playing catch up on my comments after daytona bike week! Glad the video helped you and yes its very common on these bikes and super easy quick fix...best to keep a spare in the saddlebag to be honest lol Glad it helped and thank you for the SUB!
2021 FLHTK just went in for my 5k service. Tech noticed a little oil at the rear shaft (8:49 in your video). I also mentioned to the service advisor how loose my front shifter linkage seemed. You could clearly see it dancing around at idle. Still under warranty, pulling the cases off next week. Sadly I just did a new clutch and Man o War comp. Hate to see that pulled apart. Excellent Videos!!!
oh man...I just put one of those man o wars in a bike, that thing is pretty sick...sorry to hear about the issues youre having with this though...but thats what the warranties are good for, well, as long as HD has the parts or can get them in a timely manner lol
Just changed mine 2016 street glide had plenty of slop none now great video just had bike serviced at dealership they said nothing about but thanks to your video I fixed it before it came off thanks again
Thats great Rod...sucks that your dealership didnt catch it though. They could have at least mentioned it to you. A full service should cover going over all critical fasteners.
Good video I went out and checked my 2010 Limited it has 57K on it and felt fine. Did recently do my Cam Chain Chest upgrades.
Had the exact issue, didn't fall off but stripped enough I couldn't change gears. Great video that helped make the replacement of the shaft and shifter simple and fast. I love it when a fix is straightforward and does the job! Why is it Harley allowed this simple mechanical issue to persist through so many year of bikes??? Why can't someone make a set of hardened parts that will not wear out every 10 years??
I agree...when I purchased these parts I went back and asked my buddy in service if the parts had improved or if they were the same ones I was replacing. He said its the same parts. Then he said they keep a ton of them in stock because guys are replacing them all the time. I said dont you think if it was this big of an issue there should be a recall? He just laughed and said good luck .In 2017 they did manage to change they way this is mounted up but I have to see if it "fixed" the issue.
Engineered obsolescence.... its the way of the world these days... Keeps them in business when stuff breaks...
best intro ever. Replacing my today with all new levers and parts. 2015 SGS
Nice...save that money! Easy install...glad it helped you...be safe!!
This happened to my 2014 SGS about a year ago. the shifters didn’t come off but the shaft was stripped out so I couldn’t shift up or down. Had Harley fix it and was told it was probably because I was kicking the shifter arms to hard. LOL I know how I ride and Im certainly not jamming gears. Anyway it was around $150 to get it fixed. I feel it is a design problem. if it happens again, I know how to fix it myself now. Thanks for the video!
yeah pretty common issue with these year models...they definitely know that its and issue as they have corrected it in the the newer models but still refuse to own it and make a recall. Blows my mind.
I am glad I ran across this video I am having the same problem but may I ask you a question do you have shift shaft bushings inside
yes there are bushings inside but it is rare that they are bad...you can change them and even get them from hd or other vendors when you pick up the new lever...not to bad to change either.
Great video. Your instructions skills are immaculate and detail
Thank you! Glad that it helped! have a Merry Christmas!
Perfect video!! I just had this happen on my '15 RG Special. Bike would not get out of 1st gear, with a shit ton of slop. Thanks so much for this vid!!
Unfortunately just on my video alone there are tons of stories with the same issue and Hd never addressed it, they just changed it on the M8 version in 2017 and it seems the issues have gone away. But they will keep selling us parts to fix it.
Nearly got stranded in the middle of no where! I'll be changing mine shortly. Thanks for the advice!
Just found this gem, after finding my ‘14 Ultra Limited’s arm wobbling like an 18 y/o after their first happy hour. Will pull it apart & likely go with the shaft. Didn’t look closer, but wonder if the problem is with hardness in shaft? Bike only has 10k miles on it
I seem to have a similar issue on an 07 RKC. Your fix took care of the problem without R/R the bushings like other videos recommended. I changed out my shift linkage today and it was easy. I also removed the shift shaft and cleaned it up. Moisture does get in there. The new shift rod made a lot of difference. Shifts real solid. (2007 Road King Classic.) I have had the stock shift linkage since 2007.
Yeah the bushing can be changed but usually is not the issue. Ive had guys on here saying the same thing...you should have changed the bushings...well I would have IF they needed it but they didnt so why waste your time and money when this is the issue. Makes no sense. Glad you got it lined out.
@@sikbaggers Thanks SIK. I agree about wasting money on a bushing change. I did the R/R of the linkage today with a nicer HD lever. Did take out the shift shaft and cleaned it up. Moisture does get int there. The new linkage sure makes a lot of difference. Thanks again for the video. Nice job.
Mine just fell off tonight luckily I had a couple of zip ties on the bike to hold it in place after I tighten the bolt up. I will be heading to Harley in the am to get new parts and definitely going to check that rear bolt, I have a lot of slop on mine
yeah man I get this same comment at least once a week...Im glad the video helped and its a shame that HD doesn't recognize this as a problem more than making more parts to sell us...there clearly should have been a global recall on this issue. Instead, they let us foot the bill. Pretty typical of HD
Thanks for the All you do and post to help us!!!
I see where peope say they use zip ties incase they break down..
Do you or anyone have a pic or info how to use the zip ties?
My 2014 Street Glide at 15,000 miles just had this issue. Thanks for this video, time to replace it. Ride Safe Y'all
Hey man thanks for the video! Mine is sloppy and now I definitely know what part I need to change!
Yes sir..pretty easy fix..be glad you caught it now.
Brother I hope this is my problem. I just lost mine this morning and I'm pissed 😤. Great video...keep'em coming
yeah man its really common issue...If you lost it then this was more than likely the problem. Just change it all out and you'll be good for another 2 years lol..they said they didnt upgrade any of the hardware even though they know its an issue.
My bad day was today, stranded on the highway. It happed just as you described, never knew this was an issue. This is a 2016 FLTRU that just had a 20K service at harley about 1000 miles ago, hoping the repair will not be too expensive.
I think the parts were about 100 bucks or so.,..not sure what they charge for labor but it shouldn't be more than an hour...its really easy to change. Glad you found the issue....its a pretty crap day when it happens for sure.
@@sikbaggers Repair with parts and labor from Harley came to $148.78. The hassle of the day and tow came to more than the repair. I'm glad I found your channel, stay safe my friend.
Great Vid. Just had that problem fixed. Luckily not on the road when it went bad.
Yes sir...very lucky..I see this a lot.
love the video very helpful, What about the the back of the shift lever connected to the transmission.
like I explained in the video its way more time consuming,...youll need to pull your outer and inner primary to access that. That one doesn't usually loosen up like the front.
EXCELLENT video, thoroughly explained the how and why about these parts. I found the video after getting ready to take a ride with my 6 y/o. The foot pedals just sheared off trying to find neutral. I imagine if it had happened while riding, it could be fairly dangerous! Blessed that it happened before the ride. And I’m happy to now have the knowledge and ability to fix and prevent this in the future.
My question now is…has any aftermarket company come up with a better option? My bike is a 2011 FLHX
Thank you for your kind words about the video and I'm glad it helped you understand the issue with your Harley's shift shaft. It's fortunate that the foot pedals sheared off before your ride, as it could indeed have been dangerous if it happened while you were riding. It's great that you now have the knowledge and ability to fix and prevent this problem in the future. As far as the replacement...I havent had one come back after installing the Drag Specialties shift shaft...here is the part www.denniskirk.com/drag-specialties/shifter-shaft-1602-0873.p577379.prd/577379.sku its a matter of time to tell if it holds up better than the OEM one.
great video , I have a 2013 electra glide ultra, I have replaced the shaft and slop is stil there but not as much, i am thinking maybe the bushings need replacing also...
You cna change the bushingsthere will be a little slop in there, its not completely tight even from the factory.
@@sikbaggers ,thank you....🤘🤘🤘
Thank you very much for this video. I thought I was going to have to shell big bucks to fix this. Then I watched your video and I was able to fix it myself. Very grateful.
Thank you Dan, im glad it helped and got you back on the road..best yet you saved some bucks!
Ty for showing how to do this my 2010 dyna is doing this exact thing. Will getting new shift shaft tomorrow from local Harley dealer
yeah its an issue for sure..it seems HD fixed it in 2017 but all of the rest of us we have to keep replacing the...glad the video helped!
Thanks a lot for this video I have a 2013 FLHTC and this just happened to me last week as far as everything seems to be slipping on the shaft I tried to tighten down to make sure everything was tighten down onto the shaft but everything still slips when I try to shift. So again thank you very much for this video
yeah its pretty common just read the comments under this video alone...we change out a lot of them.
Great instruction and video. I had to replace the shift shaft, front shift lever and the toe shift ($113.00) that I picked up at local HD.
Thank you...very glad it helped you...I see a ton of these...glad you fixed it before you lost it.
This happened to me on my 2016 Road Glide Ultra last year on I-65 on a Sunday afternoon. Stranded my wife and I on the side of the highway halfway between Louisville and Bowling Green . Fortunately bike was still under warranty and Louisville H-D brought me out the two parts I needed to repair it myself ( I carry enough tools for minor repairs). Oh and did I mention we were traveling from our home in Rochester NY to Clarksville TN. Was not one of our fondest memories to say the least.
Thank you for this video i just had my shifter go out on way home today had one gear 2nd for 12 miles lol this video was very informative now to order new parts so i can get bike back on the road
Glad it helped. i know it sucks but im glad you got it fixed!
Nice video, thanks. What do you think about the greasable shifter shaft? I found this looking around and I thought it might help with this issue which I have as well. Pingel Greasable Shifter Shaft 62142
It certainly cannot hurt
GREAT VIDEO, NEVER HAD THAT PROBLEM YET , BUT YOU NEVER KNOW.
Yeah man just watch it for it!
Had mine fly off on I-80 at 75mph on my old bike 01' electra glide ultra couch. It was NOT sloppy before hand. The shifter side bolt was still in the shifter when I picked it up off the road. The bolt is fully threaded and the threads sheared off inside the groove allowing it to vibrate off.
Solution is to use a hardened shank bolt. That way a full solid shank is in the groove not a few threads that wear over time.
2 ways to accomplish this seeing as no one makes a bolt this exact size.
Example # 1) Take a same diameter solid shank bolt longer than the stock bolt and cut it to correct length, then thread the end.
Example # 2) drill out shifter lever and back lever threads and put in a correct diameter solid shank bolt with threads that start past the other end then add a washer, lock washer, nut, cap nut . You can get this bolt at any hardware store. Yes this looks like over kill but it worked for me for 3 years before I did example #1.
Metric bikes use aluminum shift levers that partially crush on the steel shift rod, not steel on steel like Harley's and they use solid shank bolts. Both my dirt bikes, KTM 690 and my 1st gen KLR 650 Kawasaki have this setup. Hope this helps somebody.
Thanks for the excellent explanation of fixing shifter slop
Youre very welcome Brad...glad to help!
I had a full strip happen on the way of of four corners monument headed towards the grand canyon. I figured out how to jockey shift grabbing the shift rod with my hand to get me 3 hours down the road to the next HD shop.
First time viewer of your video. Nice job, easy to follow along... I'm a new fan! I'm looking to change out my shifter linkage on my 2014 Street Glide Special. I like the one on your ride.
Had my rear shifter come off while riding on 2008 Street Glide. Went to put it in first from stop and it just fell forward. Managed to get it barely back on and limped home 10 miles in second. I spent many hours under the bike to get a new arm back on without taking off the whole primary. Had to spread the rear arm to get it on. Lets hope I get a few more years.
Yeah man ive seen it happen a lot...its no joke when your on the side of the road either. Glad you got it fixed!
Mine has some slight play in it, no where near like yours did. Since mine is already a little wiggly should I replace it? Great step-by-step video!
Thank you! Much appreciated. Itll have some very slight play in as the shaft just rides in that casing...just make sure everything is tight...Mine was pretty sloppy loose and I didnt loose it...but I had the second one on hand just in case as I knew it was going bad.
Oh other thing you might want to try....It worked for me great. When you take the "shift shaft" out next time..drill and tap one wall of the sleeve for a zerk grease fitting. I did that to mine and every so often I hook up the grease gun and shoot in some new grease. You would be surprised the amount of water that pushes out . Not sure why Harley didn't do that from the beginning.
Thanks brother. I’m going out to check mine now. A very nicely done, quick and to the point video. Appreciate it.
Glad it helped Bob...very common issue but easily fixed.
Thank you sir for this video. Excellently done. This is definitely something that needs to get done on my 2013 TK. As far as that rear lever goes. I have tried to get to the bolt that holds the rear lever on (the one behind the primary) and I cant see or get to that bolt at all. It just seems to be at a really tight angle. Second, I'm hearing a noise thats coming from some kind of slop but not sure if its the slop in the gear shift levers. When I'm coasting in gear, no power applied, and then I accelerate I hear a clank like as if slack in the primary chain is being taken up or maybe something else. I could try this fix but I have a feel I'm in for a whole lot more and thinking of just taking it to the stealership.
More than likely it is your compensator...check out videos on replacing your comp with a Man O War compensator......if its got slack in it now itll soon go
@@sikbaggers Thanks bro. I had the dealership test ride it yesterday. On the ride out, I noticed its most noticeable in 5th gear so I told them that. After the ride he said it could be the compensatory or the main bearing (Och). I'm thinking of riding it until I hear it getting worse. What would happen if the compensator goes? Am I calling a tow truck? Will I hear something that tells me I better get back home before I'm stuck?
Thanks! I was definitely on the wrong track. Was about to order new heel-toe levers. To be sure, the foot levers do not need to be replaced? (mine fell off, are sliding around on the shaft) Awesome video!
Great info for sure....My 13 RG had that issue and left me having to shift by hand by leaning over and grabbing the lever to get it to the shop. You are correct on the fix from HD. I just purchased a 19 RGU and changed out the levers and noticed that the stock hrdwr has been improved. Not threaded into levers but using captive nylock nuts and the levers are aluminum now. The 19s have alot of little improvements that I was not aware of but overall makes the bike that much better. Thanks.
Yes sir....It was one of the first things I noticed on the 17 ups...they seem to have lined out the issue but man it took a few years...lots of guys riding the 14 to 16s now and this is for sure something to be aware of.
THANKS for making the video. haven't had an issue yet but i know it's coming. going to be proactive and switch out shifter rod
Great video. Very helpful.
I replaced the shift lever shaft and while retightening the pinch bolt on the inner shift lever I snapped the head off the pinch bolt. Overzealous I suppose.
Luckily I was able to remove the shift lever and only needed to replace the bolt.
Maybe it was just time for a new bolt? 😂
Excellent video in great easy to follow detail, this guy right here sends many thanks brother and safe travels!
Thank you Bro! Glad it helped and always, be safe!
New to the HD world and this channel is awesome. Went out and checked and sure enough, its got some play. Question, what shift pedals and linkage is that? Its a lot beefier than stock
Thanks for checking it out tim...and the shift rod is made by performance machine however I cannot find it in chrome now when I just looked to send you a link...they still make them in black and various other designs in chrome though..and the pegs were a one off but you can find very similar ones from joel at JH Choppers. I have his stuff on my softail build and its great quality all made in house by him. jhchoppers.com/product-category/heel-toe-shifters/ make sure to check all of his other matching parts that goes with these...he makes it all. I hope this helps!
Great video but I still have a question. Exactly what part wore down?
the spline wears out and the bolts wont hold the shifter levers
Hey Steve, Awesome video as usually, thanks That happen to me yesterday.. luckily was just down the street from home. Time to get that replaced.
Steven I ride a Victory, on our trip 2017 we had three of my friends Harley go down because of this, we was on the side of the highway repairing the shift linkage just so we can make to a shop that was one crazy day not 1 but 3 bikes it was about 20 bikes ...now all my Harley brothers carry spare shifter and shaft
Holy cow man I bet that was a long day...terrible design for sure...at least they tried to fix the issue in 17. Always smart to carry a few extra parts and some cheap tools in the bags for sure.
The problem is not in the design. It’s the materials. You have aluminum or pot metal tightening down onto hardened steel. The soft metal is going to wear down easily and become loose.
In 2017 they changed the design, same materials, different design. No more issues. However I do agree with you, thats basic physics at work on these parts and the whole thing should have been thought out a lot better than it was. Its cost the touring model owners a substantial a mount of their own money to fix. For what we pay for these..thats unacceptable in my opinion.
@@sikbaggers I agree with you...Harley owners chug out alot of money for their machines and after that they still have to face inferior design or parts or ancient tech, then Harley really needs to look into it seriously.
Question: does the 3 bolts come with the replacement shaft IF NOT WHY NOT
That's because we lost MADE IN DETROIT and all the people who were real machinists not computer designers.
Excellent video! Thank you! You are very informative and directly to the task at hand. I really appreciate that! So many folks like to just flat out talk too much. LOL! Thanks again. Y'all stay safe and well.
Hey Paul thank you man..much appreciated and im glad the video helped....stay safe out there!
Thanks!
You're very welcome and glad to help! Thank you very much for the super! Much appreciated Chris!
I had this happen to me yesterday on my way home.. thankfully I was only two blocks from my house. I remember seeing your video awhile back so I watched it again.. Afrerwards I looked up the part numbers for shaft and lever on the Harley site today and it's not coming up.
these parts wont come up on the HD website...check a HD website that is a store... www.surdyke.com/PartsMain.aspx?PartNumber=33709-82A&SubCatID=&CatID=&Name=&CatName=SHIFTER%20SHAFT%20LEVER,%20GEAR AND www.surdyke.com/PartsMain.aspx?PartNumber=33718-82B&SubCatID=&CatID=&Name=&CatName=
Great video but I also had to replace the 2 bushings in the primary. Really made a difference !
Yes...sometimes thats necessary but out of all the ones i have changed maybe 2 in 20 have needed the bushings. glad you got it lined out.
Mine is loose like that and I believe it’s what is causing my heel toe shifter to not be able to catch on the splines causing the shifters to just freely move without shifting. The rear shaft is good and tight
Great Video, I subscribed. 2007 Road King, the aftermarket heel shifter is giving me problems. Heading out to the garage now to look closer at all this. Thank you for adding the part numbers. May I ask a dumb question? Does HD have both a service manual and a parts manual?? For instance, in the boating world, Mercury marine publishes both a service manual AND a parts manual. The parts manual is a must have. Thank you!
Sorry for the late reply...been at Tail Of The Dragon for a week. You can see all of the parts numbers here at this link, put in your year and bike and then you can open each section of the bike and scroll down to see part numbers partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche.com/ronnies/showmodel.asp
Thanks brother very informative video I will go home an check on mine when I get back home to Missouri thanks again I am fan of this channel
@SIK Baggers, I have a 09 eletra glide. Would the part number be the same as yours? Mine is just slightly lose, but after seeing your video I want to fix mine right away. Thank you for the detailed information in your videos.
Thank you for this video. Even though i don’t own a harley, i now know how the mechanisms work on my honda cbr
hey thanks for checking out the channel. much appreciated
Great Video. Just replaced mine . Back on the road. Thanks much!
Awesome man!
great vid. I have a 1988 FLHTC the rear slop is so bad it is wearing a notch in the back plate of the rear primary cover. I tried to tighten that bolt but the rear shift arm will not come off the shaft coming out of the trans gear box. Question : Does the inner primary have to be pulled to replace that rear shifter lever on a 88?
yes...the outer and inner need to be pulled to access the rear shift lever, unfortunately.
@@sikbaggers Thanks man..
@@sikbaggers Do you have a vid about pulling the inner primary case? Is that a job that you woudl think a shop is needed or just how challenging is ti to get all that back in place once you pull it? I guess my only other question woudl be what else needs to be checked or replaced while in there. Thanks again . Glad i found your channel.
Hey Steve how’s it going.
Is there any aftermarket for the shaft and shift levers that you would recommend?
Thx
I'm glad HD changed the shift lever design from the early models (1992) so they actually tighten now instead of wobbling around and eating the splines.
yes they did make a major change in them and they should have recalled these...they knew it was an issue and did nothing about expect provide the exact part to replace it with and let it break again and again..it was a money maker for HD
Sir quick ?
My 2015 ultra has the bolt for the heel shifter from the bottom up.
My question is which way do I turn the bolt to loosen it?
Thank you.
Hey great vid very informative. So you mentioned the back one being a ton of money to fix. That's the one that is sloppy on mine. Do you have a how-to on doing that one?
Im sorry I dont...havent had to change one in a while.
@@sikbaggers gotcha hey thank you for responding. Very good info. Thanks
Excellent video. I just had a bad day on I395 VA
I hate to hear it...this video here has several comments with the same outcome..its sad that HD will not recall this..it happens al lot!
Thanks for the video tutorial. I’ll definitely be checking mine often!
thanks for chekcing it out Rob! Not a bad idea, for the price, to keep an extra and some tol sin the ole saddlebag either.
Age old problem with the dressers. Some fixes on my 93 FLHS..... Open the gap on the locking screw on the tranny lever. This allows for a tighter fit. (seems to be where my slack always wanted to start) Silicone on the shift shaft with rubber "O" rings on each end after you put the shaft in the primary and before the levers go on. The silicone dampens the vibrations and takes up the slack between the bushings in the primary housing and the shift shaft. The "O"rings take up end play. After fighting this problem for years I now get 2-3 years between having to tighten things and just have to replace the silicone and "O"rings. Just food for thought as this is a much cheaper fix than replacing parts every couple of years. Old bike, Old fart compromises.
How do you put silicone on the shaft and not have it adhere to the ID of the bushing?
@@martincvitkovich724 It doesn't stick to the bushings or the shaft that well. It requires a little extra effort to remove but nothing that can't be done by hand. Then you just roll the silicone off the metal, reapply and start over.
@@sittinbullmb Is the silicone like gasket sealer or bath and tub caulk? Exactly, what do you use? I used to use gasket maker on nuts and bolts and other parts to keep old British bikes from vibrating parts, so I'm hip to your concept, just like to know exactly what you use
@@martincvitkovich724 The last I bought was from Harbor Freight. I picked it up with their rubber O-ring assortment.. Black automotive RTV Silicone. I have used High Temp Black silicone also. Just whatever was available. When you first put it in and it sets you will think it will never come out but the constant movements of just regular shifting will begin to wear it down. Once you notice it getting loose again it will pull out. Silicone by it's very nature doesn't like to be moved around. That is what makes this work so well. New bushings and a new shaft are the tightest way to go but the silicone can be done in less time and way cheaper. I'm banging on a budget most of the time so I save where I can. When I did replace the shaft many years ago I put the silicone to the new shaft and have just kept an eye on it for extra motion. Once it bugs me I pull it and replace the silicone.
Excellent video!! My friends Road King has that exact problem. Now i know what to do to fix it!! Thanks!!!!
Yes pretty common issue and pretty easy to fix. Glad you guys caught it before it was too late!
Great Video Steven. I have a 2016 ultra and I was wondering if it is normal to have some side to side play in the rear lever. Mine is ok as far as front to back which seems to indicate that my splines are still ok.
a small amount of side to side is normal. Wouldnt hurt to reach in there and check the pinch bolt though.
@@sikbaggers Thank you
Great tip buddy. Going to to start checking 👍👍👍
thank you paul...if you read the comments here you will see in the last 4 years since I released this video its a pretty common thing to happen...always good to keep a spare in the saddlebag or make sure yours is tight...thanks for checking it out!
I just changed my stator and shift lever and when I started my bike my chain sounds like it’s flying all over the place. Just wondering if it’s because the chain tensioner hasn’t expanded yet. Rode it a couple of blocks but still sounds the same. Is this normal after a stator change? This video was very helpful when I switched this out. Thanks.
definitely sounds like something is not right..pop the cover and check it out.
@@sikbaggers thank you will do.