Let me get this straight... I have a choice of 60 hp kei truck or a 600hp f150 (and everything else on the market) but in the bicycle market I can only use certain power thresholds. In my flea bitten opinion speed limits should determine access. One can drive a Porsche in a school zone at 20mph same as a kei van. If someone has 4000 watts a little self control should share space provided a reasonable speed limit is shared by all.
The reality is that the police are unlikely to ever check the wattage of your e-bike, especially if you ride something that looks like a normal bike and ride it in a way that doesn't endanger other people. You can slap a 750W sticker on your 4000W motor, and most cops won't know the difference. However if you are riding a Sur Ron which isn't street legal and looks like a moped and popping wheelies while going over the speed limit in front of the cops to call attention to yourself, then you are asking for trouble. (See Sur Ronster's RUclips channel for an example of how not to ride an e-bike.)
My Class II pedal assist makes the bike feel like it is going to jump out from under me. On settimg 1, 2 or 3 it will jump when I push on either pedal when I push down from the upright position.
I subscribed and liked this video because you gave clear explanation on this topic while others are making it even difficult to understand . Thank you 🎉
So let’s make cars that can only go the speed limit. Ebike wattage limits are flawed. People need to ride responsibly but we know that is never going to happen
Trying to get clear answers/understanding of classes and laws and higher power bikes is a nightmare. I want to know if a dual motor setup with 2 motors rated 750w nominal--since you can run 1 motor, since you dont exceed "a motor of 750w or less"-- legally a class 2 on 1 motor? Street legal as such?
As far as we understand. 1 motor, 2 motors. 250w or 750w. shouldn't matter. The Classes are speed related and throttle related. Class 1/2 Up to 20mph, Class 3 Up to 38mph. If it has a throttle it can only be Class 2 legally, if it exceeds 20mph with a throttle it does not land under the 3 Classes.
So do the classifications change by state? I know most states have the 3 tier system, but do the definitions vary? For example do some states define class 3 at 20mph while some do 25mph?
In an effort to not share a comment that is dated sometime in the future, we would highly suggest going to www.peopleforbikes.org/ for the most current information. That being said, the Class 3 is 28 mph in the US (pedal only), Class 2 is throttle assist up to 20mph, Class 1 is pedal only up to 20mph. Some bikes may be labeled Class 2 (due to the throttle), but when pedalling you can exceed that up to 28mph. This can be confusing, but they will likely have a sticker as how they are classified.
very nice video, easy to understand. may I ask if your ebike is rated at 28mph then after purchase you change the setting to max out at 20mph, doesthan mean it is now legal class 2? thwnk you!
I'm not sure we have an exact answer for that. We'd be happy to reach out to peopleforbikes.org and ask. They are the leading resource for information like that.
Most police won't bother you as long as you are not riding in traffic like an idiot like many of these young riders do. Just obey the rules of the road.
New York City just banned the sale of ebikes that are not UL certified. Awkward for Rad Power Bikes that opened a store there. Also, the new ebike tax credit bill in congress will only apply to UL certified bikes.
European and Asian certified Batteries are CE . The certificate Is recognized in over a hundred Countries. New York City should recognize this certificate.
Why are almost all Class 2 bikes sold are advertised that they can be unlocked to a Class 3 status when in reality they can’t be Class 3 while having a throttle? I also don’t understand the difference between a class 2 and 1 and why the throttle makes a difference. Since both can provide assistance to 20mph, why does it matter how that speed is achieved, throttle or pedal?
Class 1 & 3 refer to speeds for Pedal Assist support. Class 2 is just a throttle classification. Class ratings are set for safety and local laws. Class 1 = 20mph Pedal Assist Class 3 = 28mph Pedal Assist Class 2 = Has a throttle
@@ElectricBikeJournal I'm familiar with the different classes. But in reading about Class 3 bikes, it reads as though they don't have throttles. Class 2 bikes have throttles but many can be unlocked to be Class 3. But if you unlock them they still have a throttle which suggests they would qualify to be a Class 3.
@@ElectricBikeJournalI have same question. There are many e-bike manufacturers that are claiming their products are class 3, even though they have a throttle. Many of those bikes can be operated as a class 3 (up to 28 mph with pedal assist), but they have a throttle going up to 20 or more, unassisted. Some even provide an extra sticker you can apply to the bike, so it can be identified as a class 3 (covering up the class 2 sticker). These companies are selling thousands of e-bikes in the US, and adding much confusion, although it’s easy to spot a thumb throttle when there is one (except for the twist grip kind). This will probably be a nightmare for those enforcing bike laws, just like the mess we have with some automobile laws.
@@Scomelbasses And how about buy a class 3 set controller led at no throttle and 15 mph you have a class 1 . Off the class 1 path to the street set to class 2 or 3 . If you feel guilty unplug the throttle and put in your rack pack .
Thanks for clearing this up. I’m going to share the information with some folks who have asked. Mostly for there kids as they are asking for class 3s of course. Hey if I where a kid I would try for the fastest possible E Bike of course…
Laws only matter when enforcable and actively enforced. People were always going to ride those bikes anywhere they'd ride a pedal bike. Doesn't take a RUclipsr to influence them, it's more the other way around if anything. If the bike looks pretty legal and you're riding normally there's no way to tell if it is legal and may as well be. If you're riding recklessly like an ass you should be ticketed/fined same as in any type of vehicle.
It wouldn’t be fair to say one is the best because there are so many different riding styles and purposes for bikes. Thankfully. We did just share our picks for what bikes we liked the most for 2023. Check out the website!
From what we understand, in the US, an electric bike that exceeds 28mph of Pedal Assist is "unclassified" and the operator would be subject to a traffic ticket and fine. We have gathered that they although "unclassified" fall under the restrictions of a moped or scooter, mean they would need to be registered and insured, as well as having to abide by the same road laws. Essentially, it would be treated no differently then an electric pit bike or motorcycle like a Surron or Talaria. Ask your local PD and let us know, we'd be really curious to hear more.
When not required to register and license a eBike the class really done matter . The adjustments easy within a few seconds someone has class 1,2,3 or basic pedal removing the battery .Speed max setting along with adjusting throttle setting to not working or unplugging the connection .
I have been on bike rail trails and had 🤡's fly by (really close) going 30 plus mph. No intention on slowing down when approaching people walking. Someone could be killed going that fast with those heavy bikes. I saw another 🤡 riding a dirt bike on the trail.
It's like everything, a few jerks can ruin it for everybody. But remember, it's not the bike, it's the idiot Rider. Because there are many athletic bike riders who can ride faster than 30 mph using muscle alone, and they should be ticketed as well. Seems to me in this age of technology, there should be a simple scan app on your phone, that starts whenever you enter one of these trails. If you go past say 20 mph on one of these trails, you should immediately be billed. I think this would be easy to do.
Nope you have to know your rights . We the people. if you ride below 28 miles per hour doesn't matter if your ebike is 2000 watts or 4000 watts The power belongs to the people. It's just a bicycle with a boost. Riding safe is all that matters. Enjoy your bike rides not worry about petty laws.
I just had an interesting encounter The first one in 8 months that I've owned my bike. So I just bought new tires for it and installed them so I went to the park by my house and I'm not going to lie I was kind of ripping around but I have a class two so it goes 20 miles an hour and then I did put a 35 amp controller so I get a little more power and a little more torque and stuff but nonetheless I can only get it up to about 22 max with pedaling. Anyway there's no one there except for one guy on a bike and I see him he stops I fly by him not even close about 30 ft away and he was on a opposite trail in fact and I hear him say you're f****** illegal lol. So me being me I whip a fast you eat and fly up to him and ask what's the reasoning for this sir. He goes you have a throttle and I said yeah and. He said well you can't have a throttle on these trails. And I said okay. Maybe you're right and maybe you're wrong however this is a class two and as far as I know I'm allowed to be on this trail and the street and the prairie paths around my area. That may change. As for now that's my understanding. Now having said that. I'm a very responsible writer I slow down when I see pedestrians I mean my bike weighs about 80 lb I weigh 260 lb if I hit someone it's not going to be a good day for either one of us. Now I've seen more guys on non-electric bikes be reckless than I have seen electric bikes be reckless. I was on a trail the other day and there was a old guy I'm saying maybe 75.80 and he's walking what appears to be a f****** old dog too and they're walking across this bridge me and my wife and my son slow down to about 5 mph meanwhile coming head on towards us is a guy in a f****** 10 speed or whatever flying dude he had to be going at least 20 now the bridge is only about 6 ft wide there's a f****** dog on it and an old man and we're right on the other side of it and this guy flies through there like he f****** owns the trail. Did I say slow down you f****** a****** You're illegal lol no because I'm not a b**** and I don't mind people having fun and it's not my place. So enlighten me. Am I in the wrong here. Is my bike illegal. Or is he just a jealous little b**** kind of like a Karen maybe perhaps. then he said he worked with the police about policing electric bikes oh and I have a video cuz I followed him for a little bit and he blows by a kid well two kids their dad and a f****** pitbull and the pit bull was not on a leash mind you on the prairie path and as he blows by he yells there's a crazy guy behind me that crazy guy was me cuz I was videotaping him I just wanted to f*** with him cuz I think he's a little b****. But anyway who's in the wrong here I'm just out trying to have a little fun man. I mean I kind of feel bad for the dude is that uptight and s***. At the same time just mind your own f****** business dude. I didn't yell at you and call you a f****** p**** cuz that's what I thought he looked like with his tight neon colored f****** spandex pants lol. Anyway that's my rant
Just about every class 2 ebike can be unlocked to go faster than 20 by peddling. Essentially combining 2 and 3. Technically illegal, but technically that it is.
dont break the law,are you kidding me its happening everyday in the uk and the law and government dont give a toss about it.i dont know why thay get payed its a disgrace.
I see the same thing and it's frustrating, but at least the good news is they are not generally putting cars at risk. Thousands of bike riders are hurt every year by cars, but almost never does a bike hurt a car driver. For this reason, I do believe cars s should be more careful, and the impetus of responsibility must be on them. (And at the same time bicyclists who break the law should be ticketed).
Not worth it anyway. Maintaining it is to costly, replacing parts and battery. Not to mention catching on fire. E-bikes are also very limited in service areas. Buy one locally that services them and can source the parts and hope that place doesn’t go out of business. This will limit your choice to one maybe two brands. And then the headache of where you can ride it.
Why are people in such a hurry??? 40 km/h is plenty fast enough... Sadly electric unicycles are so powerful enough they can now do 80 km/h...yes they do have bigger than 750 watts but they need that just to keep you upright and avoid motor cutoff.... You do not want that going top speed!!! That said euc should be classified as class 3 ebike!!! And electrically speed restricted...
Some people would like to not get hit by cars or be able to accelerate easily out of the way of whatever they need to. It's fine for areas with designated bike areas but not sharing the road.
Let me get this straight... I have a choice of 60 hp kei truck or a 600hp f150 (and everything else on the market) but in the bicycle market I can only use certain power thresholds. In my flea bitten opinion speed limits should determine access. One can drive a Porsche in a school zone at 20mph same as a kei van. If someone has 4000 watts a little self control should share space provided a reasonable speed limit is shared by all.
I mean if you ignore the law and ride like that you probably won't get in trouble
The reality is that the police are unlikely to ever check the wattage of your e-bike, especially if you ride something that looks like a normal bike and ride it in a way that doesn't endanger other people. You can slap a 750W sticker on your 4000W motor, and most cops won't know the difference. However if you are riding a Sur Ron which isn't street legal and looks like a moped and popping wheelies while going over the speed limit in front of the cops to call attention to yourself, then you are asking for trouble. (See Sur Ronster's RUclips channel for an example of how not to ride an e-bike.)
I want a Class 2 so I can pedal around till I'm exhausted and then just use a throttle to cruise home.
Totally, great to have both
Rrrright
Most Class 2 bikes are over 60lbs. I don't think it's going to work out like that.
That's how I use my Class 2. Only I used throttle until the range anxiety kicks in and I pedal home 😅
My Class II pedal assist makes the bike feel like it is going to jump out from under me. On settimg 1, 2 or 3 it will jump when I push on either pedal when I push down from the upright position.
I subscribed and liked this video because you gave clear explanation on this topic while others are making it even difficult to understand . Thank you 🎉
Thanks and welcome!
So let’s make cars that can only go the speed limit. Ebike wattage limits are flawed. People need to ride responsibly but we know that is never going to happen
Very informative and clear narration - Great Stash also!
Thank you kindly!
The laws restricting ebikes are ridiculous just have speed limits for different areas
I built my own 1000W ebike that can go around 40 MPH I'ma just slap a 750W sticker on it so it'll shut up the cops if I get pulled over😂
Trying to get clear answers/understanding of classes and laws and higher power bikes is a nightmare. I want to know if a dual motor setup with 2 motors rated 750w nominal--since you can run 1 motor, since you dont exceed "a motor of 750w or less"-- legally a class 2 on 1 motor? Street legal as such?
As far as we understand. 1 motor, 2 motors. 250w or 750w. shouldn't matter. The Classes are speed related and throttle related. Class 1/2 Up to 20mph, Class 3 Up to 38mph. If it has a throttle it can only be Class 2 legally, if it exceeds 20mph with a throttle it does not land under the 3 Classes.
@@ElectricBikeJournal I think you have a typo. In the video you said Class 3 is up to 28 mph, not 38 mph.
I just subscribed. Very new ebike rider and learning. I was going to try the airway trail Saturday. Now I'm having second guesses
Welcome aboard! Just make sure to check your local restrictions,
So do the classifications change by state? I know most states have the 3 tier system, but do the definitions vary? For example do some states define class 3 at 20mph while some do 25mph?
In an effort to not share a comment that is dated sometime in the future, we would highly suggest going to www.peopleforbikes.org/ for the most current information.
That being said, the Class 3 is 28 mph in the US (pedal only), Class 2 is throttle assist up to 20mph, Class 1 is pedal only up to 20mph.
Some bikes may be labeled Class 2 (due to the throttle), but when pedalling you can exceed that up to 28mph. This can be confusing, but they will likely have a sticker as how they are classified.
very nice video, easy to understand. may I ask if your ebike is rated at 28mph then after purchase you change the setting to max out at 20mph, doesthan mean it is now legal class 2? thwnk you!
I'm not sure we have an exact answer for that. We'd be happy to reach out to peopleforbikes.org and ask. They are the leading resource for information like that.
@@ElectricBikeJournal thank you! I will reach out to them!
Most police won't bother you as long as you are not riding in traffic like an idiot like many of these young riders do. Just obey the rules of the road.
Class 2 helps people with limited mobility. With a bad hip and knee i can only pedal for so long till, at random, i lose that ability.
Very helpful. Thanks! I think I’m looking for class 1 or 3. Hoping to do some test rides soon.
Glad it was helpful!
New York City just banned the sale of ebikes that are not UL certified. Awkward for Rad Power Bikes that opened a store there. Also, the new ebike tax credit bill in congress will only apply to UL certified bikes.
Honestly I dislike regulation but UL batteries tend to be the best
European and Asian certified
Batteries are CE . The certificate
Is recognized in over a hundred
Countries. New York City should recognize this certificate.
I’m interested in how far I can go with out having to charge it
Why are almost all Class 2 bikes sold are advertised that they can be unlocked to a Class 3 status when in reality they can’t be Class 3 while having a throttle? I also don’t understand the difference between a class 2 and 1 and why the throttle makes a difference. Since both can provide assistance to 20mph, why does it matter how that speed is achieved, throttle or pedal?
Class 1 & 3 refer to speeds for Pedal Assist support. Class 2 is just a throttle classification. Class ratings are set for safety and local laws.
Class 1 = 20mph Pedal Assist
Class 3 = 28mph Pedal Assist
Class 2 = Has a throttle
@@ElectricBikeJournal I'm familiar with the different classes. But in reading about Class 3 bikes, it reads as though they don't have throttles. Class 2 bikes have throttles but many can be unlocked to be Class 3. But if you unlock them they still have a throttle which suggests they would qualify to be a Class 3.
@@ElectricBikeJournalI have same question. There are many e-bike manufacturers that are claiming their products are class 3, even though they have a throttle. Many of those bikes can be operated as a class 3 (up to 28 mph with pedal assist), but they have a throttle going up to 20 or more, unassisted. Some even provide an extra sticker you can apply to the bike, so it can be identified as a class 3 (covering up the class 2 sticker). These companies are selling thousands of e-bikes in the US, and adding much confusion, although it’s easy to spot a thumb throttle when there is one (except for the twist grip kind). This will probably be a nightmare for those enforcing bike laws, just like the mess we have with some automobile laws.
@@Scomelbasses
And how about buy a class 3 set controller led at no throttle and 15 mph you have a class 1 . Off the class 1 path to the street set to class 2 or 3 . If you feel guilty unplug the throttle and put in your rack pack .
Cali class 2 you don’t have to have pedals on a Electric only not gas kept at 750 watt 48volt
What bike are you riding for the class 1 bit? the green one
It is the Orbea Kemen
Thanks for clearing this up. I’m going to share the information with some folks who have asked.
Mostly for there kids as they are asking for class 3s of course. Hey if I where a kid I would try
for the fastest possible E Bike of course…
I see lots of class 3 where they don't belong. Several You tubers break the laws and influence the public.
They think if it's electric, its legal. Ask them if a cyber truck is allowed then...
Laws only matter when enforcable and actively enforced. People were always going to ride those bikes anywhere they'd ride a pedal bike. Doesn't take a RUclipsr to influence them, it's more the other way around if anything. If the bike looks pretty legal and you're riding normally there's no way to tell if it is legal and may as well be. If you're riding recklessly like an ass you should be ticketed/fined same as in any type of vehicle.
This is interesting and I would like to know who/ what/ why this law gained traction.
Please make a video about the best class 1 bikes 😢😢😢😢😢
It wouldn’t be fair to say one is the best because there are so many different riding styles and purposes for bikes. Thankfully.
We did just share our picks for what bikes we liked the most for 2023. Check out the website!
I’m trying not to cheat in my hip surgery recovery but I’m thinking about converting my 21 speed mtb bike
What class is a DIY 60mph Ebike ? that's what i have.
From what we understand, in the US, an electric bike that exceeds 28mph of Pedal Assist is "unclassified" and the operator would be subject to a traffic ticket and fine. We have gathered that they although "unclassified" fall under the restrictions of a moped or scooter, mean they would need to be registered and insured, as well as having to abide by the same road laws. Essentially, it would be treated no differently then an electric pit bike or motorcycle like a Surron or Talaria.
Ask your local PD and let us know, we'd be really curious to hear more.
When not required to register and license a eBike the class really done matter . The adjustments easy within a few seconds someone has class 1,2,3 or basic pedal removing the battery .Speed max setting along with adjusting throttle setting to not working or unplugging the connection .
Twice the watts and you need twice the brakes, a suspention that keeps the tire on the road and twice the tire bite.
I have been on bike rail trails and had 🤡's fly by (really close) going 30 plus mph. No intention on slowing down when approaching people walking. Someone could be killed going that fast with those heavy bikes. I saw another 🤡 riding a dirt bike on the trail.
It's like everything, a few jerks can ruin it for everybody. But remember, it's not the bike, it's the idiot Rider. Because there are many athletic bike riders who can ride faster than 30 mph using muscle alone, and they should be ticketed as well. Seems to me in this age of technology, there should be a simple scan app on your phone, that starts whenever you enter one of these trails. If you go past say 20 mph on one of these trails, you should immediately be billed. I think this would be easy to do.
Speed limits are a joke. All in general
What if I want to have a fun vehicle without having to go in traffic
Thanks for creating and sharing this outstanding content. You rock
You’re welcome!
I like the aveton
Nope you have to know your rights . We the people. if you ride below 28 miles per hour doesn't matter if your ebike is 2000 watts or 4000 watts The power belongs to the people. It's just a bicycle with a boost. Riding safe is all that matters. Enjoy your bike rides not worry about petty laws.
I just had an interesting encounter The first one in 8 months that I've owned my bike. So I just bought new tires for it and installed them so I went to the park by my house and I'm not going to lie I was kind of ripping around but I have a class two so it goes 20 miles an hour and then I did put a 35 amp controller so I get a little more power and a little more torque and stuff but nonetheless I can only get it up to about 22 max with pedaling. Anyway there's no one there except for one guy on a bike and I see him he stops I fly by him not even close about 30 ft away and he was on a opposite trail in fact and I hear him say you're f****** illegal lol. So me being me I whip a fast you eat and fly up to him and ask what's the reasoning for this sir. He goes you have a throttle and I said yeah and. He said well you can't have a throttle on these trails. And I said okay. Maybe you're right and maybe you're wrong however this is a class two and as far as I know I'm allowed to be on this trail and the street and the prairie paths around my area. That may change. As for now that's my understanding. Now having said that. I'm a very responsible writer I slow down when I see pedestrians I mean my bike weighs about 80 lb I weigh 260 lb if I hit someone it's not going to be a good day for either one of us. Now I've seen more guys on non-electric bikes be reckless than I have seen electric bikes be reckless. I was on a trail the other day and there was a old guy I'm saying maybe 75.80 and he's walking what appears to be a f****** old dog too and they're walking across this bridge me and my wife and my son slow down to about 5 mph meanwhile coming head on towards us is a guy in a f****** 10 speed or whatever flying dude he had to be going at least 20 now the bridge is only about 6 ft wide there's a f****** dog on it and an old man and we're right on the other side of it and this guy flies through there like he f****** owns the trail. Did I say slow down you f****** a****** You're illegal lol no because I'm not a b**** and I don't mind people having fun and it's not my place. So enlighten me. Am I in the wrong here. Is my bike illegal. Or is he just a jealous little b**** kind of like a Karen maybe perhaps. then he said he worked with the police about policing electric bikes oh and I have a video cuz I followed him for a little bit and he blows by a kid well two kids their dad and a f****** pitbull and the pit bull was not on a leash mind you on the prairie path and as he blows by he yells there's a crazy guy behind me that crazy guy was me cuz I was videotaping him I just wanted to f*** with him cuz I think he's a little b****. But anyway who's in the wrong here I'm just out trying to have a little fun man. I mean I kind of feel bad for the dude is that uptight and s***. At the same time just mind your own f****** business dude. I didn't yell at you and call you a f****** p**** cuz that's what I thought he looked like with his tight neon colored f****** spandex pants lol. Anyway that's my rant
the problem is there are new anti laws coming.
and each year new ones…after all it’s for the children.
Even though the government breaks whatever law they want! I’ll do whatever I want thank you. Don’t preach to people..
I’m 13 years old and my electric bike go to 15-30 mph but I use 15 mph only
Also is called Movcan V60
@@Bigmac_Bigmacdo you recommend it?
What class is my biktrix juggernaut XD ? Hahaha
Just about every class 2 ebike can be unlocked to go faster than 20 by peddling. Essentially combining 2 and 3. Technically illegal, but technically that it is.
dont break the law,are you kidding me its happening everyday in the uk and the law and government dont give a toss about it.i dont know why thay get payed its a disgrace.
EVERY DAY I see bike riders BREAKING THE LAW... The most common is NOT STOPPING at stop signs ans red lights
Not against the law … learn the rules
I see the same thing and it's frustrating, but at least the good news is they are not generally putting cars at risk. Thousands of bike riders are hurt every year by cars, but almost never does a bike hurt a car driver. For this reason, I do believe cars s should be more careful, and the impetus of responsibility must be on them. (And at the same time bicyclists who break the law should be ticketed).
And non-ebike riders are by far the worst offenders are running stop signs and lights
I run stoplights at night since they refuse to change for me stop signs are useless unless there is traffic
WOW I think I am really considering getting one of these bike
?? The faster you can go the better chance you have of getting away. It's just science.
Another less than complete
Discussion. My E-bike is 750
Watt, pedal drive, throttle assist. Capable of 28 mph.
and these dualmotor Fattys with 2x 1000w (some obervolted to 60v and 1.5kw+) ... going 35 to 45 mph ... not legal... also not with a 250W sticker 😂
Seems like all these Ebike laws are based on Pedestrians and Car drivers jealousy.
Class 3 or don’t bother.
As a person with limited mobility we need the throttle options.
Facts class 3 or nothing
Telling us cyclists not to break the law? Hah! We aim to misbehave! We need to give the motorists a petty reason to get pissed off.
Just get a regular $300 bike and pedal
I didn't know if I would ride my ebike to work if I had to lock it outside!!! No thanks, I must be able to bring it indoors....
Not your job to tell me to wear a helmet. My “choice”, not yours, not the law.
Not worth it anyway. Maintaining it is to costly, replacing parts and battery. Not to mention catching on fire. E-bikes are also very limited in service areas. Buy one locally that services them and can source the parts and hope that place doesn’t go out of business. This will limit your choice to one maybe two brands. And then the headache of where you can ride it.
Sorry you believe all that. I love my e bike
Why are people in such a hurry??? 40 km/h is plenty fast enough... Sadly electric unicycles are so powerful enough they can now do 80 km/h...yes they do have bigger than 750 watts but they need that just to keep you upright and avoid motor cutoff.... You do not want that going top speed!!! That said euc should be classified as class 3 ebike!!! And electrically speed restricted...
Some people would like to not get hit by cars or be able to accelerate easily out of the way of whatever they need to. It's fine for areas with designated bike areas but not sharing the road.
Motor-bike belong on pavement!