I would like to add that with the new paranoia scarabs, deli mirror farming is actually a pretty cool and consistent strat at the moment. Running strands and getting to 9 rewards using 4 paranoia scarabs I’m almost guaranteed to drop at least 5 deli orbs(most maps drop more than 7), 7-10 stacked decks and 150 splinters per map. Not to mention the lucky drops that are somewhat common like raw divines from currency reward and the Darker Half card that seems to drop a lot from deli for some reason. Maps are quick and the profit is steady. Might not be the best strat ever but it’s definitely a good one and it’s very fun too.
doesn't surprise me it was missed but most people miss that there is a small circle of wisps within the ritual you stand in to get the additional value of the wildwood wisp scarab, its not just free value
Yeah I didn't notice this until seeing a reddit post about it. The problem is clarity. People like me missed the wisp because....well it's barely visible among all the purple glow, green projectiles, alt corpse explosion visuals etc.
yea it literally makes another mini-game inside mechanic which is most part just annoying, so better taking another +2 deli rewards from personal experience
I am one of the folks who asked for delirium. Thank you a lot, I really appreciate it. Would love to see a follow-up on simulacrum, at some point! Thank you for all you do ❤
thanks, nice strat) playing it for a week) now i know i can abuse vessels) for players who gonna test this strat: - fractured t3, t4 no-one needs - jewels can be 10+ div - defer is better that instant buy, you will buy it when ritual rewards are bad next map) - alterations are good for their price, comfortable sell for divs
I hate deli, but ive really been enjoying ritual. Combined 8 mod map farming with ritual instead and its been by far my most profitable strat. You make bank when you find the nameless rituals. And randomly found a duplicated lock while doing it!
Hey Llarold, I was wondering if maybe you'd be interested in doing some videos on some of the most efficient methods of stacking defensive layers for each class or maybe just each wing of the tree. You are great at taking a topic that'd normally be a daunting slog of research and making it feel much lighter and easier to grasp. Unfortunately, I'm a damage stacking kinda guy. I can't help it, I just love pushing dps as high as I can but, I tend to really drop the ball when it comes to defenses. Resists are an easy concept on each class but things like block, suppress, etc, get a bit tougher to balance for me and I imagine I'm not alone in this. Anyway, thanks for all the videos! If you keep creating, I'll keep watching!
That's a great video idea. Maybe something we do during league downtime, not sure where to start. Would involve a lot of research that we haven't done yet.
Re-rolling the orbs is a bad idea. Blue juice around 8000/divine, i.e., 300 blue juice is around 6c, so need to make more than that for each roll you do. Currently, if all are equally likely, there are two that will increase the value, which implies you will lose, on average, around 3 chaos orbs each time you re-roll a deli orb (instead of selling the juice).
Deli Orb Boss Rush was the first properly lucrative strat I ever ran in my first league, Affliction. It's still good now, but I've never done *any* map farming strat that was so brain off and made anywhere near as much currency since then, because you could run it in white maps and every orb in Affliction was like 1/3rd of a div.
When collecting blood filled vessels in ritual(s), which ritual in a map should be collected? Last, first, all? I am seeing different answers across many of these sorts of videos.
@PathofEvening righteo. Also, I don't seem to get nearly enough tribute to defer items through 5 pages of a ritual. I usually get like 10-12k tribute in the 4 alters. Is it necessary to defer the same items on every page of a ritual within a single map, or just the first page, to avoid the item going back up in price?
@@barberjr1742 I know I'm a month+ late but if anyone else has the same question: you don't need to defer the same items on every page, just once per ritual, when rerolling favours, your previously deferred items (that you didn't defer at all in the current map) will stay on the page. HOWEVER (if my testing is correct) expensive stuff that takes longer to appear (4 divs, expensive div cards, etc.) may disappear on a reroll, but if they reappear in later rerolls in the same map they will have the same cost. So my strategy is to defer cheap stuff only on the last page BUT defer expensive stuff like divines the first time I see them, to prevent a bad streak of rerolling. When you can't consistently reach 6-8k favours on the last page (to make sure you can defer jackpot drops), run multiple blood-filled vessels to buy the expensive stuff and free deferred slots.
I've been trying to do ritual, but died a ton...now I'm leveling your lightning strike Slayer (yes, I'm so slow). Hopefully it's way better! Still love your content!
I killed 150% hp 60%less crit cata on zigurrat with a 5link/rarity support yesterday with it deathless so yeah the build is good. Just to mention the tincture is for bosses and hard rares because they burn you dry in seconds even if u are hitting enemies, it's like a 10sec double damage buff.
Could you please link your atlas passive tree in the description? I don't have all 132 yet (missing a few) and wondering how you would prioritize ordering points.
i want to take your slayer into voided valdo maps, can you suggest what flasks to change or tree nodes to survive degens/dots liked and subscribed btw!
Switching to a Progenesis can help out immensely with defenses and preventing one-shots. Sacrificing the Tincture to use Prog is tough, but a fully min-maxed weapon is worth about 25% more damage, Awakened Multistrike is worth 10-15% more damage, and a Nimis is also a substantial damage addition (61% more proj damage, +25% damage through Inspiration Support, -20% damage from The Taming), so you can more than make up for it. You will absolutely want to be suppression capped and have much higher Chaos Res for voided Valdo's Maps, and Light of Meaning that grants Chaos Res can help with that. You will want to get Corrupted Blood immunity from a unique jewel instead of a rare jewel if you go that route. Have fun, but be careful with voided maps! They'll get ya!
Doest using the vessel on the ritual shrine stop you from being able to use it? Asking because you would not be able to add the profit on top, you would not have made some of that profit
The king of the mist ritual is pretty rare you kind got lucky. Ritual is pretty good and my favorite mechanic my tip it is just after you find the king of the mist you swap a point in the atlas tree for the next map you swap either flexible dogma/profitable prayers for immutable dogma you only use the ritual wisp scarab in that map. For that map you just pick everything in the ritual and turn re-spec to the normal tree/scarabs. Only the corpses with the prefix "perfect" sell. You won't be able to sell the others. I don't use minions because I found boring to micro-managing so I don't know why
I've done about 120 maps with ritual and have had no king of the mist ones. Think it's definitely quite rare. Ritual is definitely better than it was. But still quite rng compared to other strategies.
@@jayrig4712 I don't know how many maps on average you have to play to get the king of the mist but I think you are in the unluck side. I believe it is between 50~~100 but my sample size is not that big yet to say for sure. I also absolutely agree with you thar ritual is quite rng compared to other strategies. Maybe the only other strategy that it is more RNG than ritual is aphotecary
sir can i ask what do you mean by "we get 8% by default"? on 18:24 of the video, so does that mean if my tree stat shows "92% chance to contain mirror of delirium". its actually 100%?
Started with Ritual this league, I found an Omen of Connections from a Ritual mob on the first week and made 17 divs :D The fact Ritual monsters drop omens really helps with generating some profit even if you don't hit the jackpot items. That was probably Ritual's biggest problem.
i like running ritual simply because basically nothing drops in the map outside of the ritual window and i hate picking up a bunch of shit as im running through the map it's much more comfy and easier on the hands to simply click through the window at the end of the map then to pick up 87 items from the ground
Don't know if it's just me, but I cannot do Delirium this league without the game crashing on me. This has never happened before, so it sucks that I can't do delirium strats
Hey brother. You definitely can pull the map bosses onto the rituals. I’m getting over 20k every map. It definitely slows you down but you just bait them over
wtf... I made 8 mirrors in T17 deli maps while playing with 150% rarity to increase my gold income and didn't see a single T0 and still waiting to drop my first HH/MB with 12k hours in the game meanwhile this guy just cassualy drops both of them in T16s within like 10 days streamer client prove me wrong
This is the first expansion to WoW I will not be playing at launch or maybe ever, it feels so weird, but it feels so free to be unshackled!
@@dustinwagner5902 Same here. It is weird.
Play more PoE... prepare for PoE 2 .... problem solved. (WoW died years ago.)
We understand
Third expansion for me. Dient even know war within was so close
world of rainbows kekw, i am proud of you
I would like to add that with the new paranoia scarabs, deli mirror farming is actually a pretty cool and consistent strat at the moment. Running strands and getting to 9 rewards using 4 paranoia scarabs I’m almost guaranteed to drop at least 5 deli orbs(most maps drop more than 7), 7-10 stacked decks and 150 splinters per map. Not to mention the lucky drops that are somewhat common like raw divines from currency reward and the Darker Half card that seems to drop a lot from deli for some reason. Maps are quick and the profit is steady. Might not be the best strat ever but it’s definitely a good one and it’s very fun too.
Worth checking out!
doesn't surprise me it was missed but most people miss that there is a small circle of wisps within the ritual you stand in to get the additional value of the wildwood wisp scarab, its not just free value
Good tip
Yeah I didn't notice this until seeing a reddit post about it. The problem is clarity. People like me missed the wisp because....well it's barely visible among all the purple glow, green projectiles, alt corpse explosion visuals etc.
yea it literally makes another mini-game inside mechanic which is most part just annoying, so better taking another +2 deli rewards from personal experience
I am one of the folks who asked for delirium. Thank you a lot, I really appreciate it.
Would love to see a follow-up on simulacrum, at some point!
Thank you for all you do ❤
Excellent, glad we could come through for you!
Running ritual has helped deepen my knowledge of gear. Learning what frac and synth items are valuable has helped tremendously
Very true, it's a good option for increasing game knowledge.
0:11 I got totally jebaited into this being Alkaizer memes
=)
thanks, nice strat)
playing it for a week)
now i know i can abuse vessels)
for players who gonna test this strat:
- fractured t3, t4 no-one needs
- jewels can be 10+ div
- defer is better that instant buy, you will buy it when ritual rewards are bad next map)
- alterations are good for their price, comfortable sell for divs
GL, and good tips!
I hate deli, but ive really been enjoying ritual. Combined 8 mod map farming with ritual instead and its been by far my most profitable strat. You make bank when you find the nameless rituals. And randomly found a duplicated lock while doing it!
Sounds good
Hey Llarold, I was wondering if maybe you'd be interested in doing some videos on some of the most efficient methods of stacking defensive layers for each class or maybe just each wing of the tree.
You are great at taking a topic that'd normally be a daunting slog of research and making it feel much lighter and easier to grasp.
Unfortunately, I'm a damage stacking kinda guy. I can't help it, I just love pushing dps as high as I can but, I tend to really drop the ball when it comes to defenses. Resists are an easy concept on each class but things like block, suppress, etc, get a bit tougher to balance for me and I imagine I'm not alone in this.
Anyway, thanks for all the videos! If you keep creating, I'll keep watching!
That's a great video idea. Maybe something we do during league downtime, not sure where to start. Would involve a lot of research that we haven't done yet.
Love the content! You are the most helpful PoE content creator
Thank you very much!
Re-rolling the orbs is a bad idea. Blue juice around 8000/divine, i.e., 300 blue juice is around 6c, so need to make more than that for each roll you do. Currently, if all are equally likely, there are two that will increase the value, which implies you will lose, on average, around 3 chaos orbs each time you re-roll a deli orb (instead of selling the juice).
Hmm.
Deli Orb Boss Rush was the first properly lucrative strat I ever ran in my first league, Affliction. It's still good now, but I've never done *any* map farming strat that was so brain off and made anywhere near as much currency since then, because you could run it in white maps and every orb in Affliction was like 1/3rd of a div.
It's also our first video on this channel
I like your vids, you explain things well and have a good voice for vids. cheers
Thank you!
When collecting blood filled vessels in ritual(s), which ritual in a map should be collected? Last, first, all? I am seeing different answers across many of these sorts of videos.
Depends on your strategy, but all is the most common approach.
@PathofEvening righteo. Also, I don't seem to get nearly enough tribute to defer items through 5 pages of a ritual. I usually get like 10-12k tribute in the 4 alters. Is it necessary to defer the same items on every page of a ritual within a single map, or just the first page, to avoid the item going back up in price?
@@barberjr1742 I know I'm a month+ late but if anyone else has the same question: you don't need to defer the same items on every page, just once per ritual, when rerolling favours, your previously deferred items (that you didn't defer at all in the current map) will stay on the page. HOWEVER (if my testing is correct) expensive stuff that takes longer to appear (4 divs, expensive div cards, etc.) may disappear on a reroll, but if they reappear in later rerolls in the same map they will have the same cost.
So my strategy is to defer cheap stuff only on the last page BUT defer expensive stuff like divines the first time I see them, to prevent a bad streak of rerolling. When you can't consistently reach 6-8k favours on the last page (to make sure you can defer jackpot drops), run multiple blood-filled vessels to buy the expensive stuff and free deferred slots.
I've been trying to do ritual, but died a ton...now I'm leveling your lightning strike Slayer (yes, I'm so slow). Hopefully it's way better! Still love your content!
Good luck, thank you!
I killed 150% hp 60%less crit cata on zigurrat with a 5link/rarity support yesterday with it deathless so yeah the build is good. Just to mention the tincture is for bosses and hard rares because they burn you dry in seconds even if u are hitting enemies, it's like a 10sec double damage buff.
Could you please link your atlas passive tree in the description? I don't have all 132 yet (missing a few) and wondering how you would prioritize ordering points.
It's in the spreadsheet! If you're short a few points, just drop some investment in map mod effect or scarab drop chance.
left this hellhole called "blizzard" and its games last year, best decision i ever made
We understand, but it's our first love.
i want to take your slayer into voided valdo maps, can you suggest what flasks to change or tree nodes to survive degens/dots liked and subscribed btw!
Switching to a Progenesis can help out immensely with defenses and preventing one-shots. Sacrificing the Tincture to use Prog is tough, but a fully min-maxed weapon is worth about 25% more damage, Awakened Multistrike is worth 10-15% more damage, and a Nimis is also a substantial damage addition (61% more proj damage, +25% damage through Inspiration Support, -20% damage from The Taming), so you can more than make up for it. You will absolutely want to be suppression capped and have much higher Chaos Res for voided Valdo's Maps, and Light of Meaning that grants Chaos Res can help with that. You will want to get Corrupted Blood immunity from a unique jewel instead of a rare jewel if you go that route.
Have fun, but be careful with voided maps! They'll get ya!
Doest using the vessel on the ritual shrine stop you from being able to use it? Asking because you would not be able to add the profit on top, you would not have made some of that profit
You use the vessel after finishing the ritual, so no. Using a vessel to open a map makes it so that you cannot use vessels on the rituals in that map.
On my way to the boss, can I kill the ritual monsters and not start the ritual for the boss ritual to have the same impact?
Yes
The king of the mist ritual is pretty rare you kind got lucky. Ritual is pretty good and my favorite mechanic my tip it is just after you find the king of the mist you swap a point in the atlas tree for the next map you swap either flexible dogma/profitable prayers for immutable dogma you only use the ritual wisp scarab in that map. For that map you just pick everything in the ritual and turn re-spec to the normal tree/scarabs. Only the corpses with the prefix "perfect" sell. You won't be able to sell the others. I don't use minions because I found boring to micro-managing so I don't know why
Good tip
I've done about 120 maps with ritual and have had no king of the mist ones. Think it's definitely quite rare. Ritual is definitely better than it was. But still quite rng compared to other strategies.
@@jayrig4712 I don't know how many maps on average you have to play to get the king of the mist but I think you are in the unluck side. I believe it is between 50~~100 but my sample size is not that big yet to say for sure. I also absolutely agree with you thar ritual is quite rng compared to other strategies. Maybe the only other strategy that it is more RNG than ritual is aphotecary
@@nicholasfigueiredo3171Odd, I've been getting it about every 10 maps. I ran maybe 50 maps tonight and banked 33 of the mist tokens.
sir can i ask what do you mean by "we get 8% by default"? on 18:24 of the video, so does that mean if my tree stat shows "92% chance to contain mirror of delirium". its actually 100%?
Yes, that is what it means
i think for every league mechanic you block you get an additional 2%
Started with Ritual this league, I found an Omen of Connections from a Ritual mob on the first week and made 17 divs :D
The fact Ritual monsters drop omens really helps with generating some profit even if you don't hit the jackpot items. That was probably Ritual's biggest problem.
Excellent on the 17 divs
how big was the juice costthough? for delireroll @Path of Evening
Wasn't counting!
What mechanic is best synergies with Abyss? I been using beyond. What about shrine?
Shrine is ok. Delirium is probably the best.
@@PathofEvening anything else? I’m already 80% deli maps.
We don't get alerts for threaded comments. And no
i like running ritual simply because basically nothing drops in the map outside of the ritual window and i hate picking up a bunch of shit as im running through the map
it's much more comfy and easier on the hands to simply click through the window at the end of the map then to pick up 87 items from the ground
Agree
Dude, try out the headhunter on LS - it's nuts! (Maybe if you do a Simulacrum video!)
We did try it out, it's pretty good.
Don't know if it's just me, but I cannot do Delirium this league without the game crashing on me. This has never happened before, so it sucks that I can't do delirium strats
Some GPUs don't like the shadow effects.
Try to change network mode to lockstep and vulkan (worked for me)
Hey brother. You definitely can pull the map bosses onto the rituals. I’m getting over 20k every map. It definitely slows you down but you just bait them over
Gotta go fast
nameless ritual is 1:30-50 ran about 600 maps
50 in 600 maps is 1 in 12.
@@PathofEvening 1 nameless ritual per 30-50 maps. im pretty confident its 1 2% chance ran another 80 map and got 1 nameless ritual
I did not have enough tribute for x2 apothecary card. I've been so sad for 2 days now
Pretty sad
Maybe rogue exile would be even better than delirium or with deli since they are unique
Yeah maybe
I swapped to mostly the same build without nimis and I do like zero damage lol can't figure out why
Not enough information here, lots of things could be missing. You don't need Nimis, but it's very good.
For me wow has become on a pre-3.25 form of ritual, You gamble paying 15$ a month for a minimal chance to get fun after you're done leveling.😂
We understand, really
wtf... I made 8 mirrors in T17 deli maps while playing with 150% rarity to increase my gold income and didn't see a single T0 and still waiting to drop my first HH/MB with 12k hours in the game meanwhile this guy just cassualy drops both of them in T16s within like 10 days
streamer client prove me wrong
They don't even know who we are. We've been incredibly lucky this league though
Good, keep hating on deli, so I can make more cash
=)