The Completely Insane Presidential Assassination That No One Ever Talks About
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I did a paper in primary school on President Garfield. His doctors killed him likely more than the assassin did. Nowadays we know about the importance of controlling blood loss and infection, which is why bullets are often just left in people instead of being taken out - often removing them is unnecessary and can cause more damage.
Same with Georgie Washingtons
From what I understand, I agree wholeheartedly with your assumption!!!🙏👍👻
When they dissected Guiteaus’s brain, after his execution, they found it was so eaten away by syphilis it looked like Swiss cheese. It’s amazing he could function at all.
It sounds like he didn't need much.
Lol
And yet less than that has sat comfortably in the white house!
I’m guessing they would have found a similar level of Swiss cheese brain had they executed the Dr and dissected **his** brain, too
@@skunkrat01 and started war
Garfield was one of those great "what-if" 's. His life experience and qualifications could have made him an outstanding potus. Also would make a great biographics episode Simon
As a physician, I’m appalled by the behavior and malpractice of “Doctor” Bliss, even considering the standard of care for the day. There are documentaries available on RUclips that provide much more detail to support my point. Bliss was almost as responsible for the death of President Garfield as was Guiteau.
Absolutely but his primary doctor baxter was of no more help than the others 😂 he wanted to use hypnosis and small doses of herbs to an almost untraceable amount, it was likely he wouldn’t have treated the wound correctly as well. And instead of trying to help he got in a fist fight with bliss in the goddamn whitehouse and then just left 😂 like what the fuck was goin on
I know. I read about Garfield's death and I came out hating the doctors more than the assassin
After listening to the description of Garfield's slow decline in health, that just makes me sad. What a way to go, poor guy. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
"... it is necessary that we should believe, or act as if we believed, the atmosphere to be loaded with germs. We are as likely to be as much ridiculed in the next century for our blind belief in the power of unseen germs, as our forefathers were for their faith in the influence of spirits."
Wow! I've never seen a statement that was so incredibly wrong in every single point of the statement.
When I was moved to the Freeport IL area as a kid in the 80's, Guiteau's abandoned home was quickly pointed out. In town, the house is more famous than the "Freeport Doctrine" from the Lincoln-Douglas debate held there in 1858.
Woo, that was a roller-coaster. How did anyone survive going to a doctor back then!
They didn't. You only went to the doctor if that was your very last option.
That's the trick: you went to one, not sixteen.
Well the homeopaths seem to have been harmless but ineffective.
$280k for 2+ months of attention by 16 doctors? Damn, that's a cheaper rate than we'd pay in the US today!
Yes... except after calculating inflation, $280k back then is the equivalent to roughly $7,653,388.24 today.
@@jamesmerutka889 $280 k is already the post-inflation amount
@@jamesmerutka889 Even if that was correct, let's be honest - that's probably how much they'd bill insurance for that kind of treatment today
Patient died though
Sadly, that's probably true, I got 9 stitches....you kno basically fishing line and a needle that might cost them $0.03, plus a shot of anesthetic, again their cost maybe $2/dose, and 45 minutes of their time, my bill was $9,000. 😧 What???? What services or products were rendered to justify that kind of price tag? I didn't even get a happy ending from a hot nurse for gods sake.
Dr. Bliss's actual first name was "Doctor." His mother clearly had plans for him. Though he did graduate from medical school, one wonders whether Joseph Heller may have gotten his information for the character of Major Major Major from Doctor Doctor.
Interesting facts about Garfield, one of the most intelligent men ever to reside in the White House: he could write Greek with one hand and Latin with the other at the same time. And he was nominated because of his impromptu nominating speech for Governor Sherman of Ohio, the brother of General Sherman. Delivered completely off-the-cuff (he hadn't had time to write a speech), it was so eloquent that it stampeded a deadlocked convention. Garfield spent the entire night following the speech pleading with delegates NOT to nominate him for president!
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Ironically, he would have indeed been better off not being nominated in 1880 and instead hedging his bets for a future presidential bid sometime down the line. He would not have gotten assassinated that way, after all.
Great book about this story: “Destiny of the Republic: A Tale of Madness, Medicine and the Murder of a President”
By Candice Millard. Highly recommend
Wonderful book. Also Kenneth Ackerman's "Dark Horse: the Surprise Election and Political Murder of President James A. Garfield"
Can't say enough about that book. Incredible. Along with her other books River of Doubt and Hero of the Empire
@@stephenyoung8069 Her next book, coming out in May 2022, will be about the search for the source of the Nile River.
Pretty sure we don't discuss this assassination as much because Gateau didn't kill him... the doctors did... in the slowest way possible
George Washington's death was helped along by on hand doctors treating him with "bleeding treatment".
I'm incredulous at the audacity of the 'physicians', who were instrumental in Garfield's demise, actually forwarding their bills for services rendered.
I do enjoy this channel, I wish it got more love.
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@@TheQuickSilver101 Agreed.
Guiteau shot Garfield, the doctors killed him. I live within a mile of Garfield's home.
McKinley's assassination took place after he had given his lucky carnation to a little girl. Also notable about his that he would wave to his wife every day as governor at 3:00 and broke convention by sitting next to her at state dinners as president. He would cover her of she had a seizure at dinner to save her any potential embarrassment.
Knowing that see McKinley's assassination as much more tragic than I did before. However, that assassination also gave us President Teddy Roosevelt, someone who probably wouldn't have the right backers to run for president.
Teddy had his problems, and many of his policies didn’t age well, but he was also real as fuck and literally threatened a mining company into conceding to a labor union’s demands. King shit
Taika Waititi needs to make a Jojo Rabbit style dark comedy about this farce, with Waititi himself playing Charles Guiteau.
Don't lie, you would watch that.
I'll watch anything by Taika Waititi. He's yet another example of New Zealand batting about its weight.
Samo'nella did a hilarious video of this a few years ago. It's still worth a watch.
Yup, the moment I saw the title I knew exactly what it was about
It's an interesting comparison between Sam and Simon's style of presenting the same madman
I was actually reading about Giteau last night because of an American Dad reference 🤣
Death by being surrounded by total mongs. An awful way to go.
I laughed WAY too hard at "Coo Coo Bananas" 😂
Jesus, that has to be one of the most gruesome ways to die.
I learned of this the same way I learned about Oliver North and the justified intervention in Nicaragua, through American Dad.
This was the subject of a fascinating book: The Destiny of the Republic, or something like that. Garfield would have made a good president.
He was a pretty good one in the few months he had the job. Broke the Republican machine in New York and got some of the most significant civil rights legislation before LBJ passed. Only a couple of decades after the Civil War, he was mourned in both the North and the South
oh nye duh (Oneida) That's the local pronunciation. I'm 30 miles away, a local.
Simon, do a Biographics video on Garfield or even McKinley who got assassinated as well! :)
Well done. Classic Simon. This is why I'm addicted to you.
Presidential incapacity nearly became an issue once again when Chester Arthur succeeded Garfield. Arthur, whose health had been deteriorating for some time, found out soon after becoming president that he was suffering from kidney failure, for which there was no treatment at the time. He kept the diagnosis secret beyond his inner circle and feared that he would not live until the end of his term. Arthur died about a year and a half after leaving office.
At this time in history, the US didn't have ambassadors, it had consuls. So Charles Guiteau, a sketchy hobo, is expecting to be made the equivalent to being the US ambassador to France or to the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
1880s Incel alert: Although Charles found Annie when she turned 18, she was basically forced to marry him since she was a young Christian lady & he showed a keen interest, according to a 1883 newspaper article from the Philadelphia Times. He also beat Annie throughout their short marriage. I really think we just might have our first Known Incel here. The women of the Onieda cult community were instructed to have open relationships with all men there and yet, they still refused to touch him. "Later, after he left the cult he was beaten up regularly by the beau's of the ladies he stalked". This was word for word from that 130 year old article.
The Oneida cult was one that practiced free love. When you can't get laid in a free love cult, you know you got problems.
He wasn't incel. He did manage to buy sex on occasion. Often refunded too, I'm told. Like everything else, sometimes no amount of money is worth it.
Old medicine is wild. I wonder how medicine will look on today in 100 years
There’s a Garfield School in my hometown. I imagine there were a lot of schools named after him during this booming period in American history.
There's a Garfield School in my hometown, also
Sometimes thw cure is worse than thw affliction. He would have probably lived anothwr 20-30 years if they would have just put a bandage on it and left the bullet alone.
Charles Guiteau was the fucking Chris-Chan of assassins. Except for that one thing, of course
The real tragedy is that Garfield was such a beloved and capable figure. He might have become one of our great presidents at a very important time in our development as an industrial power. Instead, we got the incompetent crook Chester Arthur.
Arthur wasn't 100% bad. He did give us the Pendleton Act, after all.
Bell didn't invent the telephone, he just beat everyone else to the patent.
As a Clevelander, I know about Garfield and his assassination... but not the details. Oh my god. It's horrifying.
Really interesting episode Simon! 😁
Fun fact: "certifiably coo-coo bananas" is an actual diagnosis used by the American Psychiatric Association.
What about “coco for Coco Puffs?”
People in past centuries would have hired those 19thc doctors to work in their torture chambers.
The past really WAS the worst.
Great video 👍
Ah yes, that one Sam O’Nella episode.
Simon I am absolutely using "certifiably cuckoo bananas" from now on 😂
I just found this channel. Another one. Yay. More things to listen to
So interesting!! God “doctors” back then were scary!
This is how it was for most of human history. We're lucky to live in the same century that vaccines and antibiotics were discovered.
The Past Was The Worst™
@@ryanm9566 and how awful it was!! Also puts into perspective how good we have it, and how much we take it for granted nowadays. The pasg definately was the worst
You should see doctors of today, the number one cause of death in the U.S., below natural causes, is doctor malpractice. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Sam O'Nella has a great video on Guiteau.
if he tried his hand in politics today, I fear he'd be extremely successful...
After the first few minutes now I want to know what the adolescent Guiteau was up to that had his father so upset with him.
I find history in general incredibly interesting yet somehow despite being american i have never heard this story. It necer ceaces to amaze me how i have learned more about the USA from Simon than i ever had a chance to in the broken school system here.
It was covered in my high school history class. I did a paper on it.
I am Australian, have never visited the US but knew who Garfield was as soon as I saw the video title. The US public education system lags significantly behind the rest of the english-speaking world.
Someone needs to make a movie. There is so much to unpack. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
So, the guy shot him, but the Doctors killed him.
I've been to the Mütter Museum, and it's definitely a traumatic experience.
Ahh yes, I've heard of the man from one Sam O'Nella
Certifiably coo-coo bananas??? *blinks twice* Ohhh, you mean completely bat-s*** crazy. Gotcha! Sorry to interrupt, carry on.
People talk about it. Charles Giteau and his assassination of President Garfield, was literally the plot of an American Dad episode.
There's an awesome Johnny Cash song about Garfield.
Sir, your closing comments ring so true, another excellent episode!!!🙏👍👻
Oh my god. The mispronunciation of Oneida is painful ... Simon, Simon...
@@hoktauri His pronunciations are amazing.
10:42 if he only knew how ridiculed he would be now for NOT believing in germs lol
How hard was it to describe this torture of Garfield.
He didn't have to stop and/or skip it like he's done reading some scripts for the Casual Criminalist, so probably not that hard.
What was even worse was the fact that lasagna didn't exist in the US back then! ;)
Sam O’Nella made a hilarious video on this man.
The past was indeed the worst.
There's the main difference between doctors then and doctors now. They usually wash their hands.
Pah germs. Nonsens you can't tell me to wash my hands 🤣😜
It is truly disgusting how unsanitary physicians were back then 🤢
8:09 the most damning of all criticisms of Guiteau's vainglory, I think.
Guiteaus was a bit of a Dobber, haha.
I would argue the Garfield assassination is much better remembered than the McKinley one, mainly because of the peculiarities surrounding the trial and execution of the assassin. Anyone with a decent knowledge of American history would know Guiteau but McKinley's assassin, Czolgosz, was so colorless and intentionally anonymous, and he was disposed of so quickly after the assassination (about 6 weeks) that he remains almost a cipher.
11:00 photo: "I've cut into s00000 many live human beings"
Wow, that's a ton of incompetence💔 Sounds like a very entertaining trial though😂
This guy needs his own movie
A cartoon version of the story made him a dead ringer for Jeremy Corbyn 🤣🤣
Guiteau redefines the word "loser".
1:05. Garfield was actually 49 not 54. He would never live to see his 50th birthday that November.
The poor man . What a shambolic affair . The nerve of the quacks to submit a bill for their handy work is beyond belief .
It just kept escalating
The NY community that Guiteau was a member of (as well as the silver company) is pronounced, "oh-NYE-da"
Wow Simon, you've gotten me so interested in this story that I wound up researching as much as I could and found that this tool was an actual Incel. See more info in my previous comment. Good job Simon & writer! I rarely get my juices flowing to this extent anymore. You made history fun for me again. Yeah, 2 comments from me here, I didn't think folks would want to read it all in 1 go if it went on & on.... forever.
Garfield's assassination was a plot point in the original Twilight Zone episode "No Time Like The Past". However I had no idea how incompetent the doctors were! Also, the murder could easily have been prevented if they'd just taken the perpetrator's threats more seriously.
Agreed on the incompetence of the doctors but the sheer number of nutters making written threats of harm to national leaders around the world, on a daily basis, is astounding. No police force or secret service could ever keep up with them.
@@felicitybywater8012 Good point!
Having bodyguards would have certainly been a huge plus, as would not have publicizing the US President's daily schedule to the American public!
i think its interesting that he didnt try to shoot him when his wife was around it was like telling her i dont care about you enough not to kill your husband but i do care about you enough not to do it infront of you
Anybody else notice that the link in the description for Brain Blaze still says Business Blaze?
This was the assassination that formed a humorous backstory element in classic neo-Western "Unforgiven" of 1992. Richard Harris as "English Bob" makes light of the event in front of a train car full of surly Americans, and notes they must be in mourning for the injury to their president [he not being dead yet but still undergoing his 80 day expiry.] I always wondered if surly Americans on the western frontier in the early 1880s would have been emotionally disturbed by the event, given the incident and the president himself were not exactly Booth killing Lincoln.
At the time of the assassination, Garfield was locked in an absolutely epic intra-party political fight with the Stalwarts, which included his Vice-President Arthur. When he was shot, the Stalwarts ceased to be a factor, and Arthur himself signed the Pendleton Act, which directly contravened the Stalwarts' position on the Spoils System. Simon didn't get into this part of the story.
Garfield was a well-liked politician personally and was of a reformist bent. The reason his death never resonated through the ages is that it was thought to be an anomaly. Although eyes did glance towards Arthur, the apparent madness of Guiteau meant that no big conspiracy theories arose. The general attitude was that it was a great tragedy and a waste of a great potential President, but no larger meaning was brought into it.
Oneida - PRONOUNCED OH-NEIGH-DUH Long I NOT OH NEED DUH
The end is nigh.
I am unsure whether people are more familiar with McKinley's assassination or Garfield's. I wonder what research has found?
All that effort and this is first time I ever heard of him. 🤷🏾♀️
What happened during that period to make Rayburn think the shooting was a prank?
Sounds like the doctors were almost as responsible for Garfield's death as the shooter.
Todd Howard knew about this. It's Cicero!
Absolutely bizarre piece of history that. The past WAS the worst!
I just remembered this story QXIR made jt
Now we all know about all four and I agree. What a mess.
I didn’t know about this channel until today I thought I’d followed all of em
What about Spencer Percival assassination 👀
2:20 Prophetic? I think the father was partly to blame.
"Mr Garfield been shot down, shot down, shot down. Mr Garfield been shot down low"
JAYZUS!!!
“I AM GOING TO THE LORDYYYY!!!”
Yeah, it’s a darn good thing we got that 25th amendment. Otherwise we wouldn’t know what the vice president was supposed to do in the event of a dead or disabled president. It’s not as if it’s right there in the name or anything.
The point of the 25th amendment goes beyond just naming the vice president as president in the event of the president's death. It also details more criteria for when the powers of the presidency move to the president, how to resolve conflicts between the two if the vice president were to try and usurp authority, how to remove the president if they don't want to, and if both the vice president and president are taken out, what the line of succession is.
The President would of probably survived if he wasn’t treated by the Doctors, Some Doctors are worse Curing the problem than the problem itself
The video Simon mentions between 3:05 & 3:11 is on Today I Found Out. Here's the link:
m.ruclips.net/video/elWc24qaP5s/видео.html