Tefifon Part 2 - more info, more music, bigger.... and smaller.
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2024
- Another look at the Obscure 1950s German HiFi equipment - the Tefifon. In the second (and last) of my two videos about this player - I clear up a few questions, show a couple of things that weren't in the first video and you get to hear a direct recording from a Tefi Cart - so you can judge the sound quality for yourself. Downloadable MP3s of the Intro & Outro chimes here: goo.gl/k6euvT
The FIRST TEFIFON VIDEO is here: • Vintage Electronics - ...
NEW! - PART THREE is here: • The Stereo* Tefifon KC4
The name of the track played at the end of the video is "Cuba-Baion”.
How were the carts made? .... see here www.radiomuseum.org/forum/tefi...
CORRECTION: The small carts are 18 minutes (rather than 15) in length.
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You’ll find answers to questions like “I wonder how they were made”
as well as a link to Part One
+Techmoan Hello, what's the name of that song you let play in its entirety at thee end?
+Techmoan -- You are a tad yellow in the face. Get your liver checked, before it is too late.
+Skyfire the song is Cuba-Baion
Hey, thanks
Skyfire no problem
That audio quality is staggering for 1950s tech!
wattage2007 I agree.
Isn't it 1930's stuff ?
wattage2007 I know!!! I wonder, Techmoan what is your opinion about the sound quality? was it ahead of its time?
Reggie Buffat I agree. These less than millennials have no clue.
davidkrocks Seriously? He wasn't alive then. Why don't you forward this video to your parents, and ask them instead???
for something that old and ignored, ITS STILL SOUNDS FREAKING AMAZING
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nowadays old recordings sound wonky
Macin toshiba lol
Analog recordings have a charm that's not been replicated digitally ever
The Tefifon is my favorite.
You always sign off with "thank's for watching", but from the bottom of my heart, thank you for showing us these wonderful devices in all detail. Great stuff & fun to watch.
Pretty awesome audio quality for a domestic device of the 50,s. The idea of "record on a tape" is excellent and versatile. In the hands of a large corporation with more marketing power, this could have been a hit
Indeed, imagine if Sony had got their hands on this. There would have been one in every home...especially if they continued the development of the stereo version. It wouldn't have been too long before we saw the "Tefi-Walkman"!
This was a highly under-recognized piece of tech. I’m impressed with the quality, especially given the era it came out.
There was a technology that used a blade-like stylus and film with a raised, curved surface coated with some mercury substance. The stylus pressed down onto the film, depressing the raised section, and shaving away a wider or narrower section of the coating. This yielded an instantly playable optical track.
@@lezzman Sony itself was small at the time. So maybe RCA/Victor or something like that.
Finding your channel is most definitely the best thing that has happened to me this week, or maybe even this month!
+Емил Ефендулов that's good news, thanks.
I'm with them! Educational, entertaining and just plain fun! Plus I get to look at all the neat old gadgets that I have wanted to get for decades, and see what they're foibles are without the expense. Please keep up the great work!
Ellenor Malik wut??
Was thinking the EXACT same thing! Haha nice!
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this has to be my favorate retro hifi thing ever
Zane Wuffy me too! It grows on you!
It really shocks me this tech never took off.
+MarvelDcImage If that shocks you, what if I told you that the steam engine was actually invented some time around 30 AD by Hero of Alexandria. That's right, a bona fide steam engine which he called the Aeolipile. It never took off, but imagine if it had. Industrial revolution 2000 years ago!
Goes to show, many good ideas fall by the wayside for some reason.
+NewFormofSilence No, to be honest a steam device was invented but it was not a true steam engine. It was a ball with two jet nozzles that spun. So Hero's engine was not exactly functional - more like a demonstration device. This tefifon device would have been ideal for playing recorded music in cars of that era. I think in the 1950s they were selling record plying devices for cars that were not very functional.
+MarvelDcImage So he invented the jet engine, make our mind up time..jet or steam. Its the Jet. Hero was inventor of the JET.
+mart fart He meant jet as in jet: A rapid stream of liquid or gas forced out of a small opening.
+NewFormofSilence Not forgetting Archimedes, Antikythera mechanism.
4 hour cartrdige? That´s absolutely impressive!
VectrexRoli Better than a CD and about as big as one. Well, maybe slightly thicker...
VectrexRoli The math on the timing of the 60 minute cartridge works out to a length of approximately 10m. Extrapolation leads one to believe that the 4 hour cartridge contains 40 meters of ribbon.
+Shane Gill I'm thinking it was designed to run on 60 hz power and uses a synchronous motor that should turn the tape at that speed which was why it was 10% off.
Peter Carlson As far as I understood this is a product from Germany and there was always 50 Hz like in the UK.
VectrexRoli Germany did not always have 50 hz they have had several line frequencies
Considering the age and type of technology used, the audio quality is pretty damn good. Thanks for another great video Mat.
+Paul Hicks If I'm not mistaken, by the time these were produced recordings were being done onto magnetic tape which was (and still is) very high quality. That really helped up the quality of recordings on records and whatnot...I think. I'm not an expert.
Well what do you expect? It's German
That honestly sounded a LOT better than I was expecting. The only thing I'm wondering about now is how they manufactured these tapes. Vinyl you press, but how do you make a grooved tape???
I'm pretty sure they could use an engraved metal cylinder the same diameter as the tape, then roll the tape against the 'master' while it's hot to copy it. Or they could use an engraved cylindrical bore and injection mold the tapes (I bet this would be faster and more reliable than the rolled way).
@@chrisbalfour466 Sorry for being late to the party but the answer is given here: www.radiomuseum.org/forum/tefi_cassettes_how_were_they_produced.html?language_id=3
The big 4 hour tape (Die grosse Tefi-Revue), you are presenting in your video, came along for free with every new Tefifon player. Today, it is the most widespread Tefi tape. The Tefifon repertoire was released as well on regular vinyl records of "Bertelsmann Schallplattenring", the predecessor of "Ariola" record company. For example, the last song you play at 6:55
(Cuba Baion) appeared on a rare Bertelsmann LP: "Auf den Flügeln bunter Träume" in 1957/1958. In the late 1950s, via contract with "Philips" record company, Tefi released even some US Columbia recordings of Ray Conniff or Doris Day on tape.
Years later that song is a signature one on the channel. Love it 😃
Tape that is non-magnetic and yet sounds as good - What a surprise! Wonder what the speed past the stylus is compared to magnetic? Thanks for the long play.
Analogue audio is like puppies and kittens... So warm and fuzzy... Always makes me smile inside.
You're listening to it through digital sampling, filtering, and compression.
7:05 cue the puppets
what puppets? the song is called Cuba Baion - Kurt Drabek
Mastercluster In more recent techmoan videos he has a funny skit between two puppets near the end of some videos while Cuba baion plays in the background
I actually caught that... I was tilting my head, thinking that this offbeat song seems amazingly familiar for some reason.
Flippin' 'eck!
For a second I thought it was the puppet intro.
I hope some hipster EDM/chillstep artist releases his album on Tefi. That'd be a laugh. You know this idea is such a novelty and so obscure that I'd imagine it'd be very easy to copy the tech with modern equipment and have it sell decently well for the sake of a conversation piece.
lol yes like coldplay
It's doubtfull if the equipment to make these "record tapes" still exists.
dieselmupke I would imagine rigging a pulley system to pull the tape along on a normal record etcher would do more or less the same thing. Not impossible. Expensive, maybe, but not impossible.
tman there's that capitalism to the rescue again! Make your own by downloading the design and rent some 3D printer time.
Bolivar DiGriz not that easy
I'm extremely surprised by the audio quality. It feels relatively warm and very clean.
I keep coming back to this video just to listen to that recording... makes me feel all fuzzy inside :D
Really enjoying how long these cartridges maintain to preserve their audio quality... Don't even get me started on the charm of all the old live recordings... minimal use of microphones, pretty much no editing and most of the times you don't even know who the instrumentalists where... It's musical-retro-mystery-goodness :)
ChristopherBolte I think the fact that the recording is done on plastic with a half life of 50,000 yrs explains why they’re still in good shape
I kind of snickered when I heard you say "Pennsylvania Six Five Oh Oh Oh", but I laughed out loud when I heard the singers actually sing it that way :-)
(FTR it should be "Pennsylvania Six Five Thousand")
For what it's worth, if you go listen to the Andrews Sisters version of the song they pronounce it both ways.
@@Serowhd same with the Glenn Miller version, Pennsylvania six five thousand, except the last one.
I could listen to this old German music all day!
Is hard to believe this amazing audio quality back int he 50s and we have many crappy audio players in 2015
I gotta admit the audio quality for something that old is impressive. Engineering has always been a strong suit of the Germans, hasn't it?
+Alex Kenderian I agree. No idea how they got it that crisp
Must be the materials used in the reel of that Tefi cartridge, or maybe the recording equipment used for recording audio onto the cartridges.
+Alex Kenderian My grandfather once made the point to me that Germans can engineer great machines and parts but when it comes time to fix them they are at a loss. While this may not be true for everything it certainly applies to their cars.
+Dog & Crow …it most probably had to do with those 19cm/s of tape speed used… but another possibility could've been that the pickup cartridge was designed to emphasise higher frequencies in order to make up for the, back then, somewhat LOwer-FIdelity amplifiers' reproduction capabilities… but that's just my guessing :)
+speedytech7 Actually, the older german cars are very easy to fix.
Don't misinterpret greed (and the resulting non-repairable design) as unwillingness to engineer something repairable.
this version of Cuba Baion is different orchestration arrangement than the LP version, and it absolutely SLAPS !!!❤❤❤
I like how it looks like the actual tape is dancing to the music
That sounds Really good for 1950. and the Device is really neat.
+DatPhatGamer yes it's great that it's compact, about the size of a shoe box...it means I've left it attached to the amp rather than hiding it away.
It gives "Magic Tape" new meaning.
When I look at the Tefifon Fallout comes to my mind.
Would totally fit into that universe.
History is littered with better formats that failed for mostly stupid reasons. I bet this is another case. The sound is excellent (for its time, age and mechanism)
+Charlie Fleming
Very true. Just think how smooth and comfortable rail travel would be now, had we opted for I. K. Brunel's 7 ft ¼ inch broad gauge system back in 1838, instead of adopting the 4 ft 8½ inch standard gauge we use now, I'd guess that the extra cost of land and rolling stock, completely ruled it out for the railway companies shareholders.
The mind races with images of un-cramped Tube trains and traveling at 200mph as standard! lol
+Charlie Fleming The higher speed benefits from the narrower width that won.
A disadvantage I've just realized is that you can't press this tape like you can a disc, limiting the speed of mass-production.
@@IDoNotLikeHandlesOnYT If you look into how tefi cassettes were made, they were essentially pressed, just in a much different manner that involved large embossing rollers.
This technology didn't deserve to die so young. It really should have displaced vinyl records.
On another note I love how the tape wiggles almost looking like it's dancing in sync with the music.
It's a shame that this device never made it big. The potential it had for the time it came out was AMAZING!! Imagine having a plastic tape stored in a cartridge, that could hold up to 4 hrs playback time and you'd never had to worry about how often you could play it until the sound got terrible (Schellack, I'm looking at you!!). Sadly, this goes to show how useless an electronic music device is without proper licensing contracts and record company support...
Manuel J. Although I agree that there are many huge advantages, I also think that the plastic recording does eventually get noisy and tappy as a vinyl does, just because of physical damage from the reading head.
It also would be interesting to see what would append with more modern systems.
If a popular standard system could get up to 4h playback would that change how the audio cassette and later cd are developed?
In the closeup "macro" portion of the previous Tefi video, it looks like a bit of plastic was being shaved off the tape by the needle. While the format is a fascinating piece of audio engineering, I too have serious doubts about the number of plays one of these carts would get before the sound becomes noticeably degraded.
That was just some dust that had accumulated on the "tape" over the years. Techmoan stated this in the comment section of the first video. Should be the top comment.
ITX Official: You exactly named the 2 big problems of that device. The first argument was totally right, the music companies did not have any interest in introducing some new innovations. And, with the 2nd one it was exactly the opposit of what you wrote, the notorious wearing of this mechanical audio tapes. As you could see in the 2 videos when Techmoan did show the needle with his Macro-lens, it did already scrape off and shave off lots of particles from the tape. That leaded to immense abrasive wearing and the tapes were susceptible to lengthening by mechanical stress. This made the whole thing not being able to play the titles a lot of times without drastically reducing the sound quality on time, as opposedly the vinyl discs could do. But apart from that wearing issue the tefifon was quite a nice and good audio quality producing innovation at that time!
My Granddad had one of these...it's unbelievable how clean, crisp and warm they sound...
I'm sat here listening on my HD650's thinking this is totally acceptable. Incredible sound quality.
Sennheiser i am rocking to the HD 518's
...I guess?
You obviously have to compare it to what was available at the time, in comparison to modern stuff it's awful. Doesn't mean that it isn't super neat and impressive for 1950s though.
LOL it's terrible, but sounds ok for 60s and crappy analog formats like tape and vinyl.
With the microphone/digital recorder, editing and RUclips in between.
This is really fucking cool.
I wanna make a modern electronic record today in 2015 and release it on Tefifon
BoboDoboRobo You'd be the first to do so since they stopped making them back in the day... the machine is nowhere to be found.
Rob F Mono or stereo doesn't really matter to me when the quality is good, which it is on the Tefifon.
Rob F I did some research, apparently they went bankrupt and it got into the hands of some bigger company, but contacting them is nearly impossible. Then there's the chance that it got demolished, the press that is.
+Rob F If they could do it back then, they could do it today. Could they have been made with the master being a metal band that is heated and pressed against the plastic band. So the strip is made into a loop before being pressed. It'd be near impossible to get the seam perfect otherwise.
Rob F So it was done by hand?!?
1955!!! That is was before Mat and I were born! Those germans were crazy (in the beautiful sense of the word... :-) As usual, thank you, Mat!
This is the father of the 8-track format. The perfect compromise of tape-like density and disc-like accessing time. Imagine one of these having a digital tape with a lot of tracks. Only one or two motors, maybe a tracking solenoid or a tracking stylus like in those video discs (depending on the number of tracks), and a simple loading mechanism that didn't take the tape out of the cartridge at all, like in the 8 track. it would be awesome!
Also, i think this cuba baion song would fit as the endless final loop in the big cartridge...
Man those Germans were master engineers! The recording quality and the mixing clarity is incredible for the time period, only Rudy Van Gelder in the U.S could come close to this level!
I love German 1950's Musik
*Music
+IceCold Well, it's musik in german…
Any idea which artist did that version of Hello Mary Lou? (6:14) There are a few good German versions on Spotify but none with quite the enthusiasm of that one!
@@robfriedrich2822 Yeah I listed to those versions but they aren't quite the same.
@@robfriedrich2822 Yes I agree, but that's why I was asking if anyone knew who sung this cover version!
It is amazing how much the way we listen to music has change, as the much as the music it self.
If you don't mind me saying, this thing is fascinating as hell. In an AM world, where stereo is not a norm, this is so much music in one of those big cartridges. Thanks for sharing! And remarkably, it sounds great!
That immediately became my text message tone. Thanks Techmoan!
Sean McCullough You're welcome - I wasn't sure anyone would be interested.
It is to bad it did not take off. As someone who loves long music, like in Classical music and movie soundtracks. This would have been a perfect format. Great part 2 video.
+Lurker1979 I think by the mid 50's a lot of companies (like RCA) were pushing magnetic tape instead, especially in the US where "Hi-Fi" was really taking off at the time. Like the VCR, it's appeal was the ability to record as well as play. I just don't think Tefi was able to find a distributor for the US and therefore didn't feel the need to make machines for our market. I think as for format it would have been a good competitor for MUZAK like service,possibly supplying a company here with the designs for continual music players. Oh well, didn't happen.
The sign of a good You Tube video ........ ??
When you come back it over two years later:
1) still be entertained
2) keep watching till the end
&
3) still be impressed with the knowledge & production.
Only one complaint at 7:04 ....... where are the puppets ?
*Top work Mat. Great video*
A perfect example of how the best format is not always the winner.
The waving pf the tape results from poor handling of the cartridges: people usually just push in the tape after taking it off the machine, that is not correct. You need to push the tape in halfway and put it back onto the machine, so it will wind the tape forward inside the cartridge. This prevents undue tensions. Besides the sizes you mentioned there are also quite rare tape loops without a cartridge, only a few centimeters in diameter. These need to be played back using an adapter. There were earlier versions of the Tefifon, the tape was played back at a faster speed and these date back at least to the fourties. There was also a quite rare stereo tefifon right before this format was discontinued.
As it is basically a phonograph that uses the forms and mechanics of a tape player, it is the perfect oddity companion of the 1950 GE Play-Talk Turntable Tape Recorder- its inverse.
if this format had been made success, probably nowdays it would be followed and beloved as vinyl records for sure
I love the pitch-perfectness of it. No pitchiness, no skips. Maybe just a little wobble. If this had become the standard format instead of vinyl I might still be playing them.
I really enjoy the direct recordings like that. It's amazing how good it can sound.
Cuba-Baionr sounds pretty darn good!
The technology you show on your channel is mostly before my time, but I find it fascinating. Your channel has been quite a distraction the past few days as I'm binge watching your videos.
Love the little dance that the tape does as it enters and leaves the play head - its really on the beat!!
Loved that you let us listen for that amazing gadget a little bit!
I am absolutely flabbergasted that something like this, an 8-track-like cartridge with a vinyl-like groove on a tape exists. It sounds pretty damn good too. It seems to me it was built as a muzak player like the BGM machine featured in one of your videos. I am also pretty surprised seeing how it works that there is no immediately noticeable jitter.
Based on the other comments here, it was never a BGM system, it was used for German popular music widely available to the public - there's way too many jazz albums on it for BGM in that era.
Amazing audio quality. Can't believe it that I just found this 5 year old video in my feed. Keep up the great video's.
Something beautifully hypnotic about watching that slinky red mobius strip waggling in time to the music it plays.
Well, now I have my new "on hold" music background.
Sixty years ago I would have wanted one, if I could have talked my parents into it, I was only 7 then. Good stuff.
Do you remember how much they cost?
@@realulli no , too long ago
What a wonderful machine. Thanks for posting.
You are the best tech museum on the web. Thank you
I can't believe I'd missed this part 2. Excellent video. Now I know where you got the background music for your Muppets.
It is a joy to watch learn and listen to your videos, most interesting, there simply imperial.
That last track was Delightful thank you.
Amazing sound quality for the time, when I hear records of the time played on radio who have high end turntables and amplifiers they still do not sound as good, the tefi carts however have the sound quality that became the norm only in the late sixties on normal records.
Most amazing is how they could weld the ends of the pre stamped tape togheter without an audible interuption of the grooves, that was how precise German engineering was.
Well deserved Mat!
Your videos truly are getting better and better, sadly only a few "non-dashcam" videos go viral but I hope this pushes you further into making videos on these subjects.
I showed this to a 55 year old chap who teaches about audio and science and he couldn't stop smiling when the other video was playing, just like how I found myself humming and tapping on the beat of the track halfway the video.
Have a good one Mat!
What a really brilliant machine! I really enjoyed watching this.
0:58 - "...and to be honest all I'm really doing, of course, is milking this this for all it's worth." I love people that can be honest about their motivations. At the same time, while it may be "milking it," the content in this video is superb, unlike other content creators that make follow up videos and fill it with garbage.
Tefifon is so cool, there's something charming about it playing those covers.
What a great lost format, sound quality is pretty astonishing.
given a new lease (modern hardware) on life this thing could sound better than vinyl records with the bonus of the cartridge/cassette keeping dust dirt fingerprints etc off the media... ...the 'tape' is even played at the same physical speed throughout unlike records... its the perfect analog lover device that "could have been"...
if you listen to the recordings that keeping dust, dirt off seems to have a flaw though, the tape is quite prone to crackles and pops and you can see bits on it, now granted that might just be the felt material in the cartridge degrading, but i could also imagine a downside of these machines was song selection, theres no way outside of guessing you could know where each song is, with records once LP was introduced you could simply count the blank spots and get your track, also LP records are pretty resistant and easier to clean, this thin tape and the fact its all shoved in a box makes it seem like should it become dirty theres a non zero chance of cleaning it properly, granted i would think that if TEFI's had held on they might have figured out a loader type mechanism like VHS used to try and protect the tape and maybe have figured out some sort of track layout function so you could scrub through and find the track you wanted.
Its a wonderful track music player. This was the early days of experimentation in recording and this idea must have followed on from the wire recorders. I live the clever design elements of this machine and the finish on it. The German audio manufacturing industry has produced some amazing products. I have a 1950's Telefonken valve radio, that I intend to restore. I bought this radio on an on line auction and the reason I had to have it was because we had a similar Telefonken radio in our family in the 1950's and my mum used to place my infants cot in front of the radio to put me to sleep with the music.
The player mechanism was remarkably free of wow and flutter, the stylus and cartridge were very good for the time period. Very well engineered with quality materials and workmanship. This is a classic.
I like the wobbling of the tape.
I'd totally own one and listen to 50's music all day, so enjoyable
And 6 years in I still love this vid. Thank you
Beautiful fidelity from this device sir. Thank you for doing a direct-in recording. It sounds so vibrant, how cool!
Good Job. Cuba Baion instantly becomes an international hit song, played everywhere!
The 'Baion' is originally from just north of Bahia, Brasil where it was a form of music since the 1900's & evolved to it's peak popularity internationally in the 1950's. In original Portuguese it is called the Baiao. The Food Networks own Giada De Laurentiis' grandmother, Sylvana Mangano (who was a KNOCKOUT in her day) became one of the first international "Baiao" hit artists with her rendition of 'El Negro Zumbon' in the movie "Anna" which she starred in, in 1951. Her look, style & talent reminds one of Myley Cyrus, way ahead of her time. Here is the video on youtube: ruclips.net/video/qZqB2CczTes/видео.html
George Rellas why do men obsess over our looks all the time?? lol
It sounds very good. Good frequency response.
and separation
Thanks for making videos like this, Techmoan. I would have never experienced this stuff without your very entertaining channel.
If I hear this music *twice*, it will haunt every neuron in my mind...FOREVERRRR.
I love postwar European light music and soundtracks.
BACK TO THE FUTURE! YOU CALLED IT!
this is very very fallout.
+foundatlantis I don't want to set the world on fire!!
I just want to set a flame in your heart
fallout is very very this.
or bioshock
I guess it took a video game for you to find this interesting, idiot.
This is a really amazing device! It sounds really good as these things go, and it is so innovative. Thanks for explaining it so well.
There's something about 50s vintage analogue recordings that are just right.
I've no idea why but they sound very pleasing to the ear.
Luv and Peace.
These things are kind of cool, for such old tech it actually has some practicality to it.
Screw FLAC. Tefifon, that's where audio quality is at.
I'm glad that one of your videos of your HiFi equipment took off, they are my favorite of the videos you produce. Keep up the great work.
The sound quality is surprisingly good.
The sound is surprisingly warm and full. Did you add any EQ or did any de-noising to the audio? Too bad it didn't catch on in Germany. It sounded better than the early cassette and 8-track decks. And I bet it could also been converted for stereo.
+wildbilltexas I was just a wire into the mic input on the camera then into iMovie and out to youtube - no effects. There was a stereo model briefly before the Tefifon was discontinued.
Interesting to see that the Tefifon uses an SK451 pickup cartridge as is used in the Braun SK 4 oder SK 5. Since the Tefifon is usually less expensive than a Braun SK record player (at least in Germany), it might be a way to source one, since it's almost impossible to get an SK451 nowadays.
I tell ya what, this is still one of my favorite pieces of Hi-Fi tech you’ve shown on the channel. I just love every bit of it!
How pleasant that song sounded, leaps & bounds over the 78 of that era. Thanks for bringing these delightful sounds back from the grave.
I thought the original video was fantastic. This one was pretty interesting as well. You mentioned before that you do a lot of camera review videos because they get a lot of views. Then you did a quality video on something obscure and interesting and picked up a lot of viewers because of it. I am glad to see that doing what you wanted to do worked out for the best. You make great content, I believe that if you stay the course you will end up with plenty of viewers.
PS. I really like your video intro, never change it :).
Kind of wish you'd played Beethoven instead, but this is good too.
Amazingly good quality for such old technology.
remarkable. It really sounds pretty good and is amazing that the device worked without any repairs.
amazingly the sound is far better than I thought it would be , the definition and quality is quite good
i think the audio quality is quite good, considering the technique...awesome video!
That demo track was smooth as fuck
I would love to listen to the full length tape. I keep coming back to this video because it's so fun!
The default sound quality is better than expected!
This device was ahead of its time.
Is the music at the end the same one sometimes used in the puppet segments?
Dan Xepha - Yes.
this is the genuis idea to put recond on tape form
What a wonderful future-retro thing. If it wasn't for your coverage of it, I would have never heard of this bit of old hi-fi kit.
The song at the end was delightful. Thank you.