Stage 4 Forty-Eight Harley-Davidson w/ Vance & Hines Short Shots Exhaust
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Screamin' Eagle Stage 4 Upgrade Kit installed on a 2018 Forty-Eight Sportster. Matt Laidlaw takes it out for a test ride and evaluation. Learn about this performance kit and what type of power increase you can expect from the installation of one.
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I love the 48. One of the best Harleys out. I'm 5'7" and 160lb, so the 48 fits perfectly. I rode a Slim S 110, and was awesome but way heavier and geared high. Not as good for squirting around the place. But yeah, highways, like a dream. That 110 is punchy, as soon as you are opened up, you need to be setting up to try pull the 600lb missile up to the next stop. Beast.
I just went to the dealership looking at what was new. They tried to sell me the nightster. One bike stood out, the 48… I asked alot of questions and one salesman said they thought the nightster was going to be the hottest bike, but the 48 was the biggest selling model so far. The used 883 was second. They had a ton of sportsters with sold signs and on hold until approval came through. I had to buy one
I've always been in love with Forty-Eight !!!!
I bought my 06 Dyna Street Bob new and have ridden it from Arizona to Canada several times, and I can tell you that by 90mph and for long stretches it has lost a great deal of it's composure. I love my 22 Forty Eight with it's much taller chain gearing upgrade just as much on the open road at high speeds for extended periods of time as on the SB. I'm short 5'5" and older now 73. Been riding Harleys since the mid 60s and have always loved the Sportster as much as any other Harley, maybe more!! These rubber mounted Sportsters are a great weight for the open road at high speed and with taller gearing they are just about perfect in my opinion.
Interesting Matt. Just sticking a stage 4 in my new sportster. This will be my 3rd sporty and I absolutely love them.
For the same amount of money spent on that (depending on exhaust) 87hp screaming eagle kit with labor, you can get a Hammer Performance 1275cc 120+HP kit. And they provide detailed tutorial videos and instructions to do the install/labor yourself. Awesome bike though!
Hell yeah, I said the same thing on the other stage 4 sporty video
Shaun Raimbault Harley stuff sucks for power
Yeah that's cool and all but buying through Harley doesn't void the warranty so if it blows its still covered
The Screamin eagle stage 4 kit is around $2k if you do the work yourself.. to get the hammer 120+ kit you’ll spend $5k on parts alone. I’ve very recently been looking into this stuff for my sporty
If you do the Screamin Eagle stuff yourself it is half the price of a Hammer 1275 kit. That being said the 1275 makes a shit ton more power and just has a sound of its own. There is absolutely no doubt about it when a 1275cc Hammer Sporty rides by you, it has a very distinct and bad ass sound!
Crazy how you mentioned people buying up older Sportsters to bob/trick them out. I’m looking into buying a 48 or 72 myself as a second bike to run around town with. With the volume of Sportster personalization parts it’d be fun to tinker with. Thanks for sharing Matt.
The trick with the sportster is to buy them used not new, brand new they really are NOT a good value at all, get one used and the money you saved mod the shit out of it.
Agreed.
I just got my 48 and am super happy about it. And I already have an FXR sitting in the same garage; I have no qualms about getting the sportster.
I just forwarded this video to my brother. He has a 72 and wants this stage kit installed. I hope he pulls the trigger and does it.
Thanks Matt....great video!
Excited to see the history of the Street Glide video.
Thanks man. Yea, I'll make the Street Glide Video soon.
I have this exact same bike! Only with a stage 2 on it! And it hauls A$$!! But now seeing this video I'm gonna go all the way with stage 4! I love the sound of my V&H Short shots!! They sure turn heads when you crank on that throttle!!
did you make it happen? if so, how'd it go? gettin' ready to get this kit for my 2016 883 soon.
Very precise. Articulate. Your pov is spot-on. Everything you said about this (the) Forty-Eight, is absolutely bullseye. Very very appreciated. Thank you.
I rode them modified and agree with your comments. If I could, I would have one in my stable because they are just so damn fun to ride. Not the bike for long trips even though many can, have & will. It sounds great, the mechanical sound and feel going down the road is just a unique experience that no other bike can produce. It's just so old school raw without building one from scratch which some of us aren't mechanically inclined to do so.
Love that raw Harley pipe music.
Thanks for being so thorough with the graphs and explanation of the stage 4. You made a really good video and sold me the stage 4 upgrade.
Now i really miss my 48... thats definitely hands down some of the funniest time i have ever spent on a motorcycle... I'm 6'1 and it was surprisingly comfortable to spend time on. Some day i plane to right my wrong and get me a nother 48...
that bike will pass everything on the road but a gas station. haha!
Lol yup. Pretty much
Second day I got mine I ran out of gas on the highway!!
Dang that's no Bueno
This is true, I have this bike with the exact same mods...50 miles to a tank if I am lucky.
Wow good to know 50 miles, not really going anywhere on that
I just got a iron 1200 as my first bike I prefer the way I fit on the sportster frame when I'm ready to bump up to more power I think this stage 4 would be perfect and possibly cheaper than buying a bigger bike. Thanks for doing a video on the stage 4 👍🏼
That stage lV 48 is sick, love the tank too
I’ve got a 48 with 14 inch legend revo a suspension, and a Memphis shades road warrior fairing with a 15 inch wind screen and I can comfortably do 4 hours plus trips no issue. Just depends how you set it up.
I have an 883 converted to the SE 1200 kit, plus the SE Stage 4 kit on top. I got the 13" Legend Revo Arcs, their front suspension, and the Memphis Shades Cafe Fairing. Bike rides smooth, and can handle motorway speed and any road conditions without an issue. The setup is super comfortable. Only thing missing is cruise control, but I still enjoy the experience of controlling the bike on my own without any tech doing it.
Wife just got brand new 48 special and I’m looking to installing V&H short shots and intake as soon as it gets broken in. We installed mustang seat and 72 handlebars and she finally feels comfy on it. Certainly a huge upgrade in terms of hp/tq from her old vstar650 😊. Thanks a lot for great videos, Matt. Watching you and John Maxwell all the time.
I'd love to ride a Roadster with some engine work. Throw on the larger Sporty gas tank and that would be a bike worth having.
Man this a beautiful bike. Love that tank graphic
I see U-Haul is having a sale.
Great video. I appreciate the graph explaining the upgrade. I like that stuff. And, it is a great looking bike!
Thanks. 😊
i am a great fan of harley, and i am looking forward to get one of those sportsters after a long wait.
I've heard your opinion on this one, and everything, you are really a good, practical reviewer, thanks for such a good review.
One of the most important modification which i want to do for my bike is also the stage 4 1200-1200kit, and the exhaust system with the air filter since i've seen your video , in which you've explained about it , which is rarity in youtube to find such an explanation, which is honestly i've been waiting for to see.
I have two doubts: 1) How do you feel about the stage 4 kit, because as a person for me to come from a sports bike , would i feel bad about the acceleration or power of this bike and so do i need to change to engine to stage 4 apart from the exhaust and air filter
2) why does everyone commonly use the vance and hines in their harley's as a gold standard, does vance and hines give you better performance when compared to the Screamin eagle exhaust .
I need your guidance on this one matt, thanks.
87hp 48, Sweet! Nicely done 👍🏻
Sharp bike!!! I wish the covers on the V&H’s exhaust were a darker black color ! These mods have got me checking Craigslist!!! Ya, you are to blame!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Love the Sportster line. I own a 2001 XLC. Will never part with it. I own a RK as well, so best of both worlds! Love your vids! Keep 'em coming!!
These aniv. bikes are so beautiful. So fitting to make them badass with engine upgrades.
Keep em´coming sir!
In 1999 the hammer kit and the CNC heads didn’t exist,so my 1998 sportster has Buell lightning heads. It runs pretty good,but not at the level of the current Hi-Po parts.
Hello Matt I am 5' 8" 90kgs. After sitting I am torned between iron 883 and hd48. Which do you recommend as both bikes are awesome.
Wow - that 48 looks like Fun! I've always loved how tossable the Sportsters are - after riding the baggers the Sportsters remind me of the original Rush when I was 14 on my new HD AMF X90...
I own the 2016 48 & still running stock. So with the cam upgrade, was it hitting a good lick? It seemed like it was pronounced more when you was at the stop light. I'm gonna get those short shots eventually but I sure wish mine had different cams.
I run the S&S hooligan kit on my Iron which includes cams and 1200 jugs with a full stage 1. It crushes highway speeds, S&S claims it will make the bike 84HP and 78 ft/lbs of torque.
Nice little bike, great look, awesome sound. Thanks for the vid Matt 👍
What brand and model is the handlebar mounted on this forty eight?
Looks and sounds great!! I really enjoy your reviews Matt. I want a 48 but at 6’1, they feel a bit small for me.
I see guys 6’4” and I pride them all the time
@@mauroarrambide9089 im 6'2 and have a super custom 48. i also have this stage 4 screaming eagle kit and my bike is a dream to ride. just stick extra forwards on and some 12" ape hangers and its bad ass!
The V&H pipes sound mean. You should try the FireBrand Loose Cannon. Have a pair of chrome on my 18 XL1200C. Look Great. People love the way they sound.
Love my Sportster. But I got the Iron 1200, no peanut tank I normally get about 100-120 miles out of a tank. I avoided the 48 because of the small gas tank. Probably will do a stage 4 eventually. Got a list of things I want to do with my Sportster. Even just the stage one it really wakes the bike up.
How much does the MPG change with the stage 4? I have a 2019 48 special, love the bike so I put on a 3.3 gal peanut tank for more miles, thinking about a stage 4 but will I be going backwards?
Is this a good beginner bike for someone with no experience??
Matt Laidlaw more about Forty-Eight !!!!
Hey Matt what does a stage 2 or 4 kit do to the fuel consumption? Miles per tank versus stock. It’s already a tiny tank
Great reviews 👍🏼
I have been looking for a small bike to rip around town . I did test ride the iron 1200 . Gonna try the new indian 1200 ftr to compare.
how good are your videos brother, the level of detail and profecionalizmo that you put is excellent I congratulate you a thousand time and a thousand more time bro
I was told by the service guy at HD that vance and hines shortshots won't work with my 2019 forty eight sportster 1200
I have Rinehart mufflers and ordered a larger gas tank. Two tone twisted cherry.
Question for all you sportster buffs. Does anyone know the difference in gearbox between the 883 and 1200? Is the only real difference top end? I'm thinking of putting the 1250 kit on my 883 but don't know if I should be replacing the crank and rods too? Any help is appreciated 🙏
I know a guy who took his 48 from Detroit to Yellowstone and back. According to him it wasn't nearly as bad as he thought it was gonna be.
Hey Matt, I have a Softail Slim 2018 and I would like to do a stage 1 now and 2, 3 in future. With exhaust do you think is the best performance for Milwaukee 107, 2in1 or 2in2 as test? Regards
PS. I don’t like a sound very loud.
There is a lot that goes into that question. For one your warranty risk tolerance. Your relationship with your local dealer. The way you tune the exhaust. Exactly how loud do you want it? The Safest bet while still getting some nice volume out of it is to do a Slip on muffler.
Hey brother! Any tips to move the seat forward on a forty eight? I am short and its very uncomfortable to ride. I badly want to move the seat a little be forward.
Please, coul you tell me someone what kind of handlebar is??? I need the same on my 48, just I love the look with this more comfortable handlebar.
Sounds really strong engine always love a Sportster great simple motorcycle thanks for the video take care Matt
The valve train is noisy with that kit, must be a hell of a ramp on those cams.
Yup.
I love and miss my 48, I will probably pick one up again just to build it out.
Honestly... the 48 looks the best out of all of the bikes.. I know it’s top of the bottom wrung.. but they just look so cool
They are good looking bikes.
Hello Matt, what is the stage IV kit for Sportster XL 1200 N Nightster 2008?
This bike seems so much fun, tons of character! Getting the best of this soon disappeared Evo engine is very tempting, the new 2020 engines will certainly be better in every way but the raw character of the Evo will not remain. The main shortcomings of this kit are linked to financials (each one’s decision in the end), and the limits of the 48 chassis. I’d be interested to see this kit tested on a Roadster, could the extra power associated with better suspension and brakes make it a more valuable proposition?
How many hours of labor are you looking at for a stage 4 131?
Hi Matt, yes increase the horses, but the torque is not stable as in stock. Is it correct?
Stable? No, the torque is just fine. It’s greater in all areas of the RPM range
Do you the number stock vs stage 4 ??
I agree on the 10 for “heart and soul” ... one of the few left that deserves such a score ...too bad this bike is going to go away next year I bet !...
No way! The sporty has been around since 1957, if they got rid of that now they would be getting rid of one of their best selling models. That would be suicide by HD hahaha buttttt, if they did do that it would spike the value of the sportster models prior to ending production!
Sportster is the last "real" HD. Imo if you are buying s Harley davidson it's because you want to ride an antique motorcycle. The new bikes Harley builds are so far behind the competition it's a joke. Theres no reason to own one. The sporty though is true to its roots which is why people ride harleys anyway.
My 17 sportster has clip on bars and mid controls. Looks awesome but hitting a crack or a hole on the highway is brutal. Plus it has the stock 48 seat so theres no butt bump to keep me in place. Still love the damn thing tho
I wonder what a stage 4 does to the engine long term? Cannot imagine it is too good. Stage 1 is enough in the real world. Thanks
SE stage 4s are a bit more conservative than other performance mods. The engine will run a little hotter but long term reliability difference is negligible.
nice video, what is the mark of this handlebar?
Sounds AMAZING bro
Nice sounding looking bike mead a saddle that you don’t get blown off of
An awesome Vlog and awesome 48 with that St. IV.
Does anyone know the product number on the jacket he's wearing.....I've been looking for it for awhile
Hi Matt as always great video and as I am a lover of the Iron could you please provided me the information of the Handel bar set up part numbers. I know your a tall guy but what did you think of the bar set up?
Are you referring to the bar setup on this particular bike the forty-Eight? or something you saw on an Iron? I like these bars. They look good and they have a slightly higher rise than stock which is always good for me. I don't think you can go wrong with these.
On this 48 would like to know if it would work on my 2009 Iron
Matt Laidlaw yes I am referring to the 48 but would like to know if it would fit on my 2009 Iron. Looking for make and model of the bars and if they have risers.
Hammer performance all the way..
Hey there, love the bike. I just bought my first 48 and during transport it fell over and the front blinker broke. I’m having a hard time finding a replacement. It’s the same one that you have. Do you know where I could find a replacement for these blinkers? Thank you and safe riding!!
Tank Girl76 dealership would be the best to get it from
@@shotgunswin2785 Thanks I actually went with fork led turn signals instead.
That little bastard looks fun as hell. How was it I'm tall too and I've never ridden a sporty were you comfortable on it. I bet it's a blast in the city.
No, I'm too tall for it as well. It was still fun but I probably look really awkward on it.
Ya I thought so I sat on one once and it seemed too little. I ride a 2010 street bob with forwards on it. And I'll tell ya man that thing was made for me. It's comfortable as shit with the stock bars and seat and handles great. Thanks for the reply and all the awesome content.
This bike is an awesome commute bike.
Want to think my Triumph sounds that good. But when the exhaust goes through a x-pipe it’s cuts the sound down. Trading next year on a 48
Check out the pipes from RB Racing. I built up (yeah way too much $$$) '20 Roadster. I use it to hunt sport-bike "non" riders in the CA Gold Country twisties. Just have a Stage 4 kit with RB Racing 2-1 black ceramic pipe. Other pref mods are Progressive 444 shocks and I raised the forks (lowered the bike) 1/2" in the triple clamps to steepen the steering head angle. The engine makes just over 80 Ft lbs of torque for 2300 RPM. Only other mods are Lucky Dave Seat and motocross style bars. 3rd & 4th gear thru the twisties? Wouldn't trade it for the world!!!
more Forty-Eight video plss
Why would you drop the bike are you 4'11" or something? Why do you need the drop?
Also why do Harley owners buy so much HD badging, if I buy one I'm taking all that off
Why don't you guys just add a bigger tank, problem solved seen a few with the big flat tank on the 48.
Which lowering kit is that for the rear shock?
All those power upgrades but kept the belt?
Yes
So with this kit the gas mileage is bad??
Awesome sound and awesome bike!
I have a nightster and ride with a club, and you're right. The sportster is a greay bike around town, and a stage 1 will out accelerate a bagger, but it has no top end and is very uncomfortable above 80mph. With the 3.3 gallon tank I have to fill up every 80-100 miles TOPS. I do a lot of riding above 50mph and it's time for me to at the very least get a softail, but most likely a new bagger. It js a good bike for a beginner, and a great bike fir someone who might not be able to afford a $15,000 price tag. I got mine used for $800 down, only had 8,100 miles, and my payments are only $187 per month, so it's very affordable. Also, at the time I had a 595 credit score and Harley Davidson still got me approved. All in all ive been happy with my expierence and Harley Davidson now has a loyal customer.
Great video !! I was surprised that a SE Stage 4 kit on this sporty numbers are not very high !!! The victory octane an some indiana scoots have those numbers stock !!🤔
Yea, it’s called water cooling with an over square engine. Say bye to all the character. 👋🏻
those numbers are not real, think its harley being consevative for usa laws, I did a stage 4 on a roadster a few years ago and used freedom pipes (v&h short shots are good for noise, but thats it, they make no power) Mine made 97 hp and 86 tq with a good tune. and being aussie we have 98 octane which helps a little too. This is more real figures, and yes, I have all the dyno sheets to back this up.
@@paulroberts3550 Yup. HDs figures are just with mufflers, and their tuner. If you added a 2-to-1 and used a different tuner, it will hit 100 (or in your case close to it). Then you get the power and have the HD character. Nothing out there will beat it.
How much was the stage 4 upgrade?
Whats current shocks relocation kit name? where to find one?
Omg that is my man at the beginning of the video haha.
I love my 2021 sportster however, I wouldn't necessarily drop 5,000 into it in order to gain such little hp . My GSXR1000 is 170hp stock.
Who is the maker of the seat
You're right, the stage 4 is pricey; don't mean to be cuttin' your HD grass but you'd be doing anyone looking to get (a lot) more power out of their Sportster a disservice if you don't refer them to Hammer Performance. I love my Sportster, I've got a $20k in it (including price of brand new bike), and I jumped in with both eyes open. I could have gotten a Softail, but I'm 5'7" 145lbs and after riding sport bikes for 30 years, having a bike that feels like it was tailor made for my size is a revelation... so I built my perfect Sportster.
I’ve never had a problem with my Nightster on the highway… Then again I’ve never been crazy enough to spend 20 to 40 thousand dollars on a motorcycle
Hi Matt, cool scooter for sure. Thanks for keeping it real man. I'm probably going to put my grandson on a sporty next year to commute to school when he gets his license.
I dont see the point of this kit unless you are running all out all the time. My bike runs between 2500 and about 4000 rpm when I'm riding and this kit doesnt really shine until beyond 5500. I've never run my bike beyond like 5200 and I was doing about 110 lol. However this bike sounds amazing
You should be able to push those revs more. Make that second gear scream!
Would the roadster in ur opinion be same in handling bumps ect?
No, the Roadster has a lot better suspension.
@@MattLaidlaw thanks.have a 2016 roadster.
Needs to upgrade brakes with all that added power right. Needs better suspension
Bike sounds so good
could you please compare the sound of stage 4 vs normal ?
Very cool bike Great video Matt!!
Love to see these mods done on a Roadster.
ruclips.net/video/jZJk8SHsn_E/видео.html this was my roadster, bobbed out and stage 4. The hp chart in Matts vid is a conservative by harley, probably to please the strict laws in usa. but with freedom pipes and a custom tune mine was 97hp and 86 tq. generally the stage 4 gives a claimed 40% power increase.
@@paulroberts3550 Very cool bike. Keeps all the good stuff and fixes the bad!
Does anyone know what gloves Matt is using?
Sounds amazing but u can hear those lifters pinging away. Pretty annoying. Lot of bad reviews on stage 4 cause of the lifter noise. Was gonna buy this but wont know until they find away to quite those down