Karen Read Case: What Happened to Officer John O'Keefe?
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Karen Read is accused of killing her boyfriend, Boston Police Officer John O'Keefe, by hitting him with her car, leaving his body in the snow. Read claims she is a victim in a big cover up by police. The battle in and out of the courtroom has been intense. #CourtTV breaks down each piece of evidence in the case to try to answer the big question: what happened to John O'Keefe?
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Spreading false information just like turtle girl
this experts knows their jobs I love them
The home owner Brian Albert, who happens to also be a Boston Police officer, never even came outside while a fellow officer was found dead on his front lawn.
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Albert is not just a police officer. He's a high ranking official in Boston Police Department. He is very decorated along with his family.
Why was the basement floor replaced? Why was the pool filled in? Why sell the house that was said to have been in the family for 50 years? Dog is MIA. The wounds on O'Keefe's are seem to be difficult to explain since they look like he was not wearing a long sleeve shirt & winter jacket! It seems like there was little or no clothing protection on his arm. imo
I find that hard to believe. Or was he not a friend ? Ppl even go outside if a Dog/pet gets hit but not for a friend. And friend enough to hang out with and invite to his hm. Or were they “friends”. Seems unreal IMO
That's because they had something to do with it as well as his dog IMO she's innocent they are framing her PERIOD
It’s not that they believe they are framing her as much as they believe they are using her as a scapegoat to protect one of a fellow police officer
I agree. Something happened i that house. They moved the body outside.
Good point
What's the difference??
they're cops. they know exactly what they are doing---framing her.
Question: if the prosecutor is so confident of their investigation WHY have they fought tooth & nail to keep her defense team from getting access to everything? Why are they not allowed to have an independent autopsy injury by injury? Why not turn over his clothes? Why not present the dog even to rule dog scratch out? Why fight the actual words from Celebrite? She also indicated finding the Google search & erased? Those who have nothing to hide hide nothing!
Have there been any motions to compell filed? If not it is a rumor that state is withholding evidence.
@@kristenpino4635yes there has been. A lot!
Turtleboy on you tube has a link that will clearly show undisputed evidence Karen Read is innocent!
Good questions!
@@kristenpino4635yes many times
That google question about how long takes to die in the cold , and the fact that nobody inside the house went out to check where he was, are real red flags about the crime happening inside the house and afterwards throwing the body out in the snow,therefore the question of how long takes to die in the snow, to make sure the victim is going to be dead when someone find him,and clearly unable to talk. The killer or killers were inside the home.
Exactly 💯
It is ridiculous how the evidence that raises reasonable doubt gets ignored and the lack of investigating things that could be evidence to exonerate Karen wasn't done.. hmmm
Exactly.
A conversation about the cold may well have been discussed in the house innocently, which in turn led to somebody googling how long it takes for a human to die in the cold. Nothing strange or weird about that, just coincidental. Also, the phone evidence relating to the movement and position of the actual phone will trump any silly step-counting app data that can be altered by merely shaking the phone. If the phone never entered the house then neither did John. End of.
💯💯💯 spot on
Why never ask any neighbors for any doorbell footage? Why never go in the house and investigate? How come his “buddies” never came out side to help him? Too many unanswered questions.
How do u know they didnt talk to neighbors or get footage?
The Canton Police Chief lives across the street. He claims there is nothing on his camera. @@WVGIRL72
@@WVGIRL72They did not, read the case documents.
its proven days ago they hid the 18 year olds car in front of the house where he was placed and he got kicked out of bridgewater state and has to go see a grand jury , they believe he did it
@@WVGIRL72 they did not. They detail in the court documents what they did/who they sought out cameras or footage from. They didn’t even subpoena for the neighbors Ring camera across the street pointing directly at the alleged crime scene. Why wouldn’t they want the best form of evidence to support/prove their case? There are hundreds of cameras on her route home they could’ve retrieved, but they retrieved none. That’s intentional.
Why would the sister in law google how long does it take for a body to freeze in the snow at 2:30 in the am?
That’s spooky 😱
There was another car directly behind Karen Read arriving at the crime scene….how did 3 people in the car behind NOT see a 6” man getting struck by car???
And there were several people in the house who all had to go home at some point. How did they all walk out into the front yard to get into their cars and not see a dead body on the lawn?! The people in the house are liars.
My Dude, Are you freaking NUTS???!!!!!!
John O’Keefe WAS NOT 6” tall!!!!
He was a Full-Sized adult male, not a “Miniature” Person.
Dude: Here’s The First OBVIOUS question:
How could you become a Boston Cop if you’re only 6” Tall?
Imagine a guy who is 6” Tall trying to apprehend a Bank Robber. It’s not a good Idea to hire a 6” Tall Cop.
Get real.
I’m tired of you claiming he was 6” Tall.
@@marygoff3332you’re right I didn’t even think about that part.
He was only 6 inches tall (“) not 6’? WOW! 😂 I know it was a typo but I had to laugh.🤣
@@marygoff3332 exactly, the prosecutor states 11 witnesses in the house. Funny they are considered witnesses, yet no crime committed.
If someone drops you off at a house, would you walk around the back of the car ? How fast did the car hit him on a snow covered sloped driveway?
How would glass get embedded in the bumper, it would have to impact something immovable not a human?
The wounds are NOT from a car accident period, if experts say they are they need to change jobs ffs
She did a 3 point turn. That means she backed up smfh
@@RealTigress 2 medical examiners took the stand and clearly stated that he did NOT die by injuries caused by a vehicle.
Its not a conspiracy to frame her per se.. its a conspiracy to keep one of their own from being in the frame!! There IS a difference! And she is innocent.
She’s innocent? Lol
@@bbginc694are you saying those lacerations on his arm were caused by a car knocking him over?.. Don't give up your day job!
All of the people at the party would have to be in on it. LOL
@@brbrknndy Are you kidding me? The house belongs to LE.. First thing these people do is close ranks... ITS THEM OR US, and so a cover up begins!
Agreed❤
Innocent people don't start deleting phone calls while their "friend" is dying on the lawn!!
What time did she delete things? How do you know he was " dying " at the time ?
Guilty people don't volunteer the phone either. She volunteered her phone, hard to think someone involved would do that as well.
@@exitscreaming4637 I don't know when she deleted sorry, but she deleted messages, do you know why? I still say,innocent people don't start deleting, they say "here, take it, go through it, have at it,..I have NOTHING TO HIDE" ..
@@NancyBarry-qn8zn I can easily see a scenario where someone would delete things . We don't know her explanation , but she testified that Karen was panicked when they discovered the dead body and asked her multiple times "how long it takes someone to die in the snow " or something similiar.
@@exitscreaming4637 ok in my opinion, there's be no reason to start deleting messages, it's not a good look, I'll agree to disagree, since there's a hundred more things we could say. Why did they sell the house, oh, people move all the time, so what? Where's the dog, oh, that's normal, but when I worked with canine officers, their dogs were treated like family members, honored for the work they've done, allowed to retire & live out their lives with their cop & family. There's too much reasonable doubt, and idc what time she was allowed to delete messages, her, and everyone's phones, should have been taken in as evidence, as the caution tape should have been in place, and a proper investigation done, maybe we wouldn't be here today, trying to rationalize a person deleting things during, before, or anytime DURING a murder that had just so recently occurred.
First off, wether or not all of the drinks were alcoholic or if she was drunk. Your “expert” woman who first spoke said she can’t believe these officers let a person drive drunk. WTF DO YOU THINK THEY WERE DOING THEMSELVES?!?! Everything this “expert” is saying could be applied to every single person at that house.
Another good point. They need to move on from this.
The Google search only happens after he was beaten to a pulp inside the house then put out in the front yard to die. Plow driver saw no body less than 10’ from the curb at 2:30am.
To say these people are experts is laughable.
There has been 2 people that are retired K-9 trainers. They both said these are definitely bites from K-9. What's this ladya training in K9 bites. She have any. Or is it just her opinion. Karens car had no damage at all. With these injuries she would have damage.
I trained and raised dogs for 15 years. His arm injuries are 100% dog claws & Canine teeth.
Her car had damage , then her lawyers lied and tried to explain it away as her car hitting John's .
Not a chance. I googled dog bite photos and they look NOTHING like this.
Are you a bot? That is not dog bite marks at all it was broken glass shards from the glass cup he was holding when Karen backed up into him
Those marks to me are consistent with a dog attack, I have first hand experience. A dog attacked me a number of years ago, didn't puncture but scratched exactly like in those pictures. I still have the scars from it.
Dogs scratch differen now aday!
My dog got into a scuffle with a GSD. The GSD had a scratched ear my Bully "had mark's just like that", because the GSD couldn't get his teeth into my little piggy. It was my fault, I'd only had him 2 weeks at the time, fixed the problem.
Same here. I was attacked by a German Sheppard at 9 years old. My scars look like I fought Wolverine. The pictures my gradpa took of my bites are identical to his, but on the top of my arm. Also I'd like to add, when I was attacked by the dog I got a massive head injury because the force of the dog leaping on me, I hit my head on the curb, the pictures of that look as if I got hit with an axe. I had a tee-shirt on. My mother still says the emts said it would of been deeper wounds if I didn't have that on.
Agree, they absolutely look like scratch marks. When I was a kid the neighbors Shepard jumped up on my back and slid all the way down. It looked like my back had been slashed just like the injuries seen here.
Are you lot taking the piss... there's millions of pictures of dog bites on Google and none of them look anything like his arm... your talking a German shepard only leaving minor wounds like that. I'm no dog bite expert but I can use the Internet to compare images and there's a clear difference... also why wasn't there dog DNA found in his wounds.. you would think the defence would state if there was 🤷♀️
Homeowner replaced flooring in house…then sold the house for under value of market. Hmmm
Home owner also got ride of their dog.
I hope to God the FBI tracked down the flooring material that was removed from the house right after the incident.
@@marygoff3332 or go into the house with new homeowners permission and do an investigation. Something has to be left behind.
A house that had been in the family for 50 years. They are not innocent
@@dianahernandez1709a home is a key component to generational wealth. He sold it at a loss robbing a next of kin the chance to inherit it. That’s a cover up. There was absolutely no reason whatsoever to sell that home.
Poor girl cant even mourn his death.
The " poor girl " who is accused of his murder ?
Why not? Assuming she's innocent, she's likely mourning it right now.
I think they killed him in the house, the dog definitely played a roll, plus the phone an the phone call, sink the prosecution, plus the forensic reports favours a beating not run over, not to mention hypothermia!
She is 100% innocent and the party ppl know that too. I hope they don’t get away with this.
So you were there that night - will you take the stand? 🙄
@@dawnb3194fuck the police she's Innocent
Ok. Well you just saved so much money Kay. No more courts or lawyers or judges. Let’s just go with trial by RUclips. She’s 100% innocent !
The defense lawyer is not playing around. He means business. Good
Apple health doesnt work like that Mr King. Its steps. The internet search indicates at least one person knew he was outside in the snow. Not rendering help. Was he hit by a car or was he beaten and placed there to finish dying? They need a second autopsy independent.
Turtleboy on you tube has a link to interview w the plow driver that night. It will answer all your questions, trust me
According to her testimony regarding the internet search , she googled that at the request of Karen after they discovered the dead body.
@@exitscreaming4637 no, she googled it at 2:27 in the morning… 3+ hours before she heard from Karen. And then she deleted the search and tried to override it. Explain that. Read the court documents and cell phone data.
@@Kidfunkids123 I think the time of the search is up for debate. It will be interesting to hear from the other people there
@@anadeandrade5368 I really don't want to have to look this up can you just tell us precisely what the plow driver said and if you think it was the plow driver who knocked him down and didn't realize it ?
If she did it or not, there’s no way Ms. Read should be convicted. There’s an inordinate amount of reasonable doubt here. I tend to believe she’s innocent and would be stunned if they convicted her.
They won't convict her. There were supposedly 11 people in the house. They all had to go home at some point. You're telling me 11 people who walk out into the front yard to get into their cars - and no one sees a dead body on the lawn, huh? Their case is BS.
@@marygoff3332 Agree, Mary. I don’t even believe this case should’ve been prosecuted. So, so many holes.
good point@@marygoff3332
@@marygoff3332 very good point
Oh Vinny! Nobody ever seems to mention the victims, the children that John and Karen cared for, who I wonder if a guardian should be making a claim on their behalf and on behalf of the estate of John for the loss of their uncle/guardian/services against the owner of the dog/owner of the house that would open up discovery under oath, and hold that claim in abeyance until further evidence comes forward in this criminal case so they do not miss a limitation . 💖🐾
That’s what really interested me in this case, she helped care for his nieces and nephew when their parents tragically died. Also the fact that his family was not speaking out w all the evidence. I feel so bad because Karen Read, was not allowed to grieve and help those very children that she took care of for the last 4yrs grieve. Instead made her look like a cold hearted, psychopath who decided “oh here’s my chance to kill him” dropping him off at a party.
Omgosh, there are legit too many problems with this case/investigation to even mention. So sad.
Mike King don't want to believe it
@@anadeandrade5368she started trust funds for the kids. She paid to bail Johns brother out of jail when he got arrested for DUI. She was a professor @ Bentley university & investor at fidelity.
They’re charging her with 2nd degree murder which requires intent & malice. Who in their right mind finds it remotely believable that anyone would think “you know where sounds like a good place for murder? Right in front of a cops house full of other cops, with Ryan Nagel also sitting in his idling car in the roadway near Karen, and directly opposite another cops house with a ring camera”.
Sounds like literally the dumbest place for murder. You know what else murderers don’t do? They typically don’t call their victim right after murdering them & leave an angry voicemail out of frustration because they’ve not responded to you since they stepped foot in the house.
And wouldn’t you think that if Michael proctor were so confident of this taillight murder theory that he’d subpoena for the ring camera directly opposite the street, which would provide the best evidence?
Why would he not do that? Maybe it’s because he doesn’t want to investigate something that may involve cops.
Very fishy. These people know more.
I watched a hearing and, I'm leaning towards believing her.
Learning the victim’s cellphone health app that tracks steps etc showed he walked 80+ steps and climbed 3 flights of stairs after he arrived at the house. That did it for me!
Good job, you are right. Morissey will burn in hell.
@@jettyoeill Learning that Karen called a friend before returning to the murder scene and told her that John was dead did it for me .
@exitscreaming4637 where did u hear that?
@@heathertaylor5716 " Prosecutors have said that Read told the friends who she was with, as well as a Canton firefighter/paramedic at the scene, that she believed she hit O'Keefe with her SUV. One of the friends told police at the time that Read called her at 5 a.m. and said, "John's dead, I wonder if he's dead. It's snowing, he got hit by a plow."
Jennifer’s google search certainly creates reasonable doubt
Reasonable doubt of what
@@surpriseimblackreasonable doubt of the defendant’s guilt. Was that a serious question?
@@TwistOfFate444 The Google search is not exculpatory. If anything it's inculpatory...
@@TwistOfFate444I mean there's already reasonable doubt throughout the case. So to say that the Google search ‘creates’ reasonable doubt doesn't make any sense...
I have a lexus suv there is no way that backing up into a person will brake the tail light you need a lot of force to brake it, it is very durable
And when a lexus tailight cracks the pieces go inside the rest of the light not out, its designed like that!
I thought they have to prove her guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?! Not that she has to prove her innocence?! The google searches provide enough doubt imo.
I can’t believe this, the state police had the car 1 whole hr before, they said they did!
Soooo shady.
It seems like Albert pulled his connections to make this go his way. He's not just a patrolmen beat cop in Boston. He and his family are all-stars in the Boston Police Department and highly decorated.
It’s really unfortunate because if it was a regular joe schome with no money theyd be jail forever. Turlteboy you tube has a link to when he first spoke to the man who plowed 34 Fairview Rd. And boy is everyone scrambling now
This is crazy!!!
These are some real pieces of shits, now so much has come out that Feds have more than enough circumstantial evidence to fry at least 3 ppl an counting🤦🏽♀️it’s a shame that I’m from Boston. Commonwealth and Aunty Bias Bev should be ashamed of their behavior😠
Wasn't there a snowplow guy that went by and didn’t see him lying there?
They were all drinking and driving not just Karen
I know. They keep emphasizing that Karen was drinking, when they ALL were, tho!! 😡
Agreed! But, we all have to remember, it's Karen's trial now.
@@EC-dz3fb but everybody involved was drunk. They're all part of the case
The Google Search IS the smokin gun!
Does anyone know when this trial is going to start? I am definitely going to watch this one.
Next court date is 9/15/23
March
Starts tmro April 28
As she backs out of the garage you can see the light is not broken if you look at when she hits the brakes it's still red if broken it would be white light. i could be seeing it wrong but that's my observations. Most of us know we can't trust cops.
Or firefighters
That's exactly what I thought as well
She's gunna make Millions of this bull crap
The very first time I heard this story it was so clear something happened in that house that is being covered up. I think there was a physical fight and okeef died or should I say murdered imo
Yep. Collin Albert, the aggressive meat head nephew who was dealing drugs and his MMA trained uncle, Brian Albert, sucker punched John.
@@meloneyparkerprobably sicked the dog on him than pounced on him themselves.
This case is so fu**ed up.
There was so much mentioned about the cameras catching her drinkin and it was a lot. Why not mention what the others were drinking and how they drove home?
Wait ... why would that pertain to 𝗞𝗮𝗿𝗲𝗻'𝘀 innocence or guilt? (Sorry if I'm being thick! Just unable to connect those dots. ♡)
They all drove drunk including 3 cops and an atf officer and they only guess how much she drank they dont actually know they actually say they were guessing her BAC in the charging documents... which is ridiculous, u cant guess someones blood alcohol level LMFAO.
ALCOHOL(ISM) is the main reason this happened
😢 dang, unfortunately
So was he holding a wine glass then when he got out of the car to go to this house ? Did he bring it with him from the bar they were at and was gonna carry it inside the house with him ?
Those are definitely dog bites!
Nope.
This is exactly why I love Vinnie and his guests……they ask all the questions. Even the HARD questions 🌹🌹
DNA FROM ARM!!
i can believe Brian Albert never came out of the house with a fellow Boston PD Officer on his front lawn....what i'll never believe , is that he slept through the commotion of the plow driver scooping up John O'Keefe and driving over his grass like murphy stated on another Court TV episode
This next woman describing the injuries to his forearm is concerning as an “expert.” Those are certainly punctures and then scraped while punctured. Those wounds are open. They’re not just a scratch and certainly not road rash. And she says “could be from a car part?” Which car parts would cause an injury that punctures the skin than pulled at it? Those are absolutely consistent with an animal. You guys should be ashamed at having that woman on. She was clueless. She does not explain at all how those injuries could have even been possible in the incident of a car hitting them. Surprisingly neither has the prosecution. Because it’s almost impossible to do so in any logical way.
Edit: the other “experts” agreeing that those aren’t consistent with an animal. This is ridiculous. One google search will disprove that immediately. Google dog bites. These bites are exactly where dogs who are trains, get trained to bite. It’s absolutely unbelievable all would say those couldn’t be dog bites or scratches. That’s beyond nuts to dismiss
Someone shows up to your house and you instruct them on where to park. If they never came inside the house, wouldn’t you have text them back to ask where they went?
i still think she had something to do w/ it. i don’t think Everyone else is lying. too many ppl telling that same story.
#1 if there was no tail light damage when she pulled out of her garage at 5:00am how is that not evidence of innocence bc supposedly she had already hit him?
#2 the google search for how long to die in cold is the smoking gun.
#3 massive police cover up. As if that's shocking and totally out of the question.
She is innocent. Crooked cops in that area.
What a panel!
Thank goodness for them all-
What a case!
Also this episode failed to mention how the commonwealth just this weekend changed the words in their own previous court document filings of this case to try to change context of things. That’s highly unusual and suspect. No mention of it here and I have to wonder if any of these people besides Vinny are actually paying attention to any of this case.
This! Trying to change and cover their asses!
How the hell can you edit previously submitted court documents?
@@j.d.buchanan4897 you’d have to ask lead investigator Michael proctor of the mass state police department and/or the DA’s office. Because they’re the ones who did so
@@j.d.buchanan4897 They cant, they submitted more documents just changing certain words, phrases, contexts and adding things. The fact that the judge says nothing about it is a problem.
This panel is full of boot lickers and shills. They're playing the ol, "So the whole department and DA's office is in on the coverup and frame job?" angle. The DA is going to give the PD every single ounce of benefit of doubt, and believe everything their officers say, and use any micro shred of so-called evidence to prosecute this helpless woman so they don't have to go after the a whole bunch of cops in the PD.
I love the stupid looks on this panels face as they one by one say, "Well those don't look like dog bites to me". Bullsh!t.
They are not uniform and symmetrical marks. Have they even googles dog bite marks?!
I did just now and what I saw looks nothing like these photos. These are NOT dog bite marks.
Why didn’t the canton police find glass at the scene ? It was found by state police 5 hours later…. Hmmmm
Why is everyone so quick to throw her under the bus ????? As they said - if SHE had done the ‘how long to die in the snow ?’ search - It would be the prosecutors winning card. But because someone else from inside the house did it - they are all trying to find reasons why the prosecutor must be careful in using it. I am totally confused
Karen didn't Google it; it was Jenn, I believe.
@@mollykillarney2419 I know. That’s why I am confused 😐 Because if Karen had done the search - it would be a no brainer. But it was done from inside the house - that should be a no brainer 🤷♀️
@@tracyjane1000 Ahhh - now I see what you meant.
She didn’t google it, the ‘friend’ Jennifer did (then deleted history) hours before calling her at 5 am to say where’s john leading karen back to the home where the murder occurred to find John herself, starting the frame job.
I've watched this a number of times . No way theres any broken glass from the taillight when she reverses out that guy who said you see it shatter is corupt no way did it brake just look at the angle of inpact impossible the friends are involved they killed him and trying to implicate Karen Reed who is innocent . Thats a dog injury seen it before you got a lot of coruption going on .
Woah woah woah. Hold on. Major injury missed in the section that went over the injuries. It’s major because it’s to his hand. Bruises that are commonly known as boxers fractures which bruises the top of the hand above your knuckles. Which is exactly what also showed up and was missed here
Dunno much about this case but looked up dog wounds, bites, scratches and that looks definitely like a dog attacked him so many similar pics if you search…
Chloe was their family german shephard they got rid of when the 1st questions started being asked about her (longtime family dog) and animal control records that the dog sent two other ppl to the ER. Also they sold that house and did over the basement floor after it happened its only been a year and a half and that house and dog have been gone a while.. the house was never searched. Another cop who lived across the street at the time just happened to claim his ring cam magically was not working that night... too many damn coincidences here obv something stinks
Also the home owner who was also a cop NEVER came outside when EMS & cops and a body are on your lawn, your a trained cop and you never go outside? C'mon!
That video of Karen backing her car up to "go find John" where she hits John's car... I think that was done on purpose. She knows her car was damaged and she needed an excuse. She knew there was a camera there, so that's where she did it. It literally looked like she backed up with the specific intentions of hitting that parked car.
There wasn't any damage though. The alleged "tail light" evidence did come into play until HOURS later. The tail light was intact until after the vehicle had been towed and the conflicted to say the least Mass State Police lead investigator who has a Long standing personal relationship to those inside 34 Fairview had access to it. A personal relationship so close that his mother has called them their "2nd family".
I find it disingenuous that Court TV did not show any other autopsy photos as they would show the injuries being greatly inconsistent with a vehicle hit. Those two blackened shut eyes definitely did not come from a vehicle hit.
Seriously?... It's an open case you dolt.
@@missypuffin8985 What ?
@@missypuffin8985 The autopsy photos are out there. Court TV just chose to not show them which was not honest.
Aiden(turtleboy) has all the evidence. This is the sloppiest cover up! RIP O’Keefe! Free Karen Read!!
I can see from your other posts that you fall for anyone who cries victim. It’s nice that you think the best of the one who seems to be the underdog, but I really encourage you to read about malignant narcissist traits. You’re a compassionate person & those types will damage you if you don’t educate yourself about how they operate.
Karen will never sleep with TurtleBoy, though obviously, that’s His Dream.
Here’s what actually happened:
Karen and her Boyfriend were drunk and fighting.
He got out of the car, and in her drunken state, she ran him over, and probably didn’t even know she did it.
She drove home drunk, and probably has a vague recollection of that night.
She killed him, yet probably has no recollection of it, and most likely did it by accident.
@wildmercuryfilms that's not what the evidence shows. Why did Jenn McCabe Google "hos long to die in the cold" at 2:30 am and then attempt to delete the search?
@@wildmercuryfilmsyeah and all of this took place in front of a seasoned cops home and they never saw it or heard it even though Jen and Matt McCabe claimed to be watching for john to arrive 🥴🤪🙄
Seasoned cops? I say corrupt cops!!
So when she’s let go will these cops be charged
Shoot, I’d be surprised.
Fed are involved. They better be!
💫What a great panel today!! I love all of you!!💕💕💕💕💕
They seem like nice people but again, the guests have zero knowledge of the details of the case. Like criminally ignorant
@@ByronTexasexactly. Zero knowledge.
People meaning law enforcement need to fess up and face the consequences of their actions. I think every single person in that house that night need to be charged as accomplices to the murder of john okeef including the district attorney and maybe even the prosecution. That poor girl not only looses her partner but has to be called his murderer. These cops should be ashamed of themselves.Newsflash the whole world is on her side. Justice will prevail for both the victims john and Karen
The car would have some body damage
I remember when this first happened and it's so hard to tell. So many things... It does not appear that the scratch wounds are from a car (to me), so there's that. As far as cover ups, we all know that, unfortunately, police have no issues covering for themselves. This crew seems like the perfect bunch to do so. I didn't know his gf was so drunk, but I guess it doesn't really play much of a role in this case as far as arguments go. Finally, if McCabe did, in fact, Google and erase that search, then game over - prosecuter wrong.
@@bbginc694the point is they try to cover it up, obviously. Study a CJ class and you’ll see plenty.
@@bbginc694There are at least 20 items that we could list that show that this is a cover up. Go do your research.
Why did Jenn McCabe Google "hos long to die in the cold" at 2:30 am and then attempt to delete the search? Please enlighten us..
It doesn’t matter what individuals erase from their phones! All law enforcement has to do is get a warrant from a Judge to get the cell phone companies to release all data from someone’s cell phone if they are suspected of a crime!!
@@bbe3034she voluntarily handed her phone over at the start.
The suspected dog bites?
Look like one my daughter got from her German fighting another German Shepherd , when she rried to break them up with her arm. Exactly the same.
And they will attack if someone had attacked their owners
This panel is absolutely ridiculous objective towards the wrong thing. Clearly a cover up
Not. their first cover up either. Google Sandra Birchmore and you will see this is not new.
glad you noticed too......although how could one miss that..
The 3 men weren't even prepared to go on the show. They clearly didn't even know about the google search. You could tell that was a surprise to them. That's unforgivable when you're asked to be "an expert" for the viewers.
She is guilty... she thinks she is entitled!
Um 😮Vinny are your guest speakers dumb?! The video shows clearly the suv back passenger rear light IS broken! Look compare the lights at the back. The drivers back light is a complete light that is on and compare the light to the right rear one which has a broken light. You see the blackness in the bottom led light it’s a Lexus suv there is a line led light that goes accross so the broken tail light is not a straight line there’s a blackness in the middle. Your guests laughing and carrying on about this is disgustingly wrong!
FREE KAREN READ! 💥💥
If he never went inside the house, where did he get the cocktail glass from?
It doesn’t stick out to me because I’ve been on a date with a police officer who was drunk driving. I was scared for my life, he was going 90 in a 40 mph speed zone. He told me it’s okay I always get pulled over and they let me go.
you are stunning
I am actually a TRAUMA certified RN & have worked in many Boston area ERs …. Clearly this Dr. hasn’t seen a person punched in the face before SMH 🤦🏻♀️
WHY do they always use photos of Karen Read looking bitchy? It's odd and seems pre-planned to sway public opinion against her...
They do that on purpose. A lot of people eat it up and think she guilty based on her looks. The same thing is happening in Kohberger’s case.
This woman did not kill her boyfriend ... this is a coverup by the cops
Ain’t no way this woman did this. She’s being framed. An officer did this.
My phone showed my walking into the middle of the Atlantic ocean when I went for a three mile walk in uk. 😂phone is un reliable.
Yep. And I have watched my food being delivered to me as the driver drove through multiple peoples houses and yards to bring it to me. Those maps are unreliaable for sure.
Before you ever brought up the google search evidence, I wondered why his friend who saw the vehicle driving away would call his girlfriend back at 5 am looking for John O'Keefe, if she really thought he left wouldn't she call him right away to find out why, or just wait to hear from him the next day? Then you mention the google search and it all makes sense, she called his girlfriend back AFTER she knew he would be dead so the girlfriend would be the one to find him. I honestly thought his girlfriend was guilty until the google search, then those two factors I mentioned not only created enough reasonable doubt for me but convinced me of the girlfriend's innocence.
The Dr. clearly has NEVER been attacked by a dog!! I have sustained 2 dog attacks & my dog actually bit someone in the face & those markings are ABSOLUTELY consistent with a dog attack!!
John okeefes apple data proves he went into the house.
This leaves out so much. Where is Chloe and why did they get rid of the family dog? What about all the connections between the “witnesses” and Proctor? Eventually there’s just too much too overlook.
I thought she googled but the people in the house googled it ...Thats crazy
I smell something bad real bad? But remember folks, everything done in the dark will come to light
That's not a scratch from a dog! That's from the ice from him getting ran over!
I love how mutually respectful your panels are to one another!
This is nuts. She is innocent of murder
@@bbginc694 that Google search was done by Jenn McCabe not Karen Reed
@bbginc694
I think that Google search came from the wife of the police officer, owner of the house where party was.
@@bbginc694she didn’t make that google search 😂😂😂
@@discopuma why did Jen Google it and than erase it?
@@bbginc694 that’s the big question.
What about if the Google search regarding how long does it take to die in the cold was actually related to her knowing he's missing and wondering how long he can be out in the elements and survive
Then why delete it right afterward?
@user-ps2nk7uk7c Very true. No point in deleting if it was innocent inquiry.
How did this case get this far? And people wonder why no one trusts cops or the court. Its shameful. Let this woman grieve.
Have you seen the behaviour of her friends in the courtroom? There is no way this woman is grieving, LMAO.
Where did the glass come from? The bar or the house?
That Google search done inside the house changes everything! 42:46
Great panel tonight, Vinnie. ❤Dr. Kenny Kinsey.❤
Why did Michael Slurpie put out that psa for everyone to stop asking questions about his buddies??? 😭
Staaahhpp!! 🛑 😭 😶😅
I want to know if the glass he had around him when he died came from inside that house? Because I don't know any bar that would let you keep their glasses when you leave.
Ya, id be trashed with 7 drinks, and getting an uber and my boyfriend is PD, why doesnt he know better. As long as he doesnt get pulled over. Neither one of them smart enough to do this. They hollar at us to get a designated or an uber driver. She doesn't even remember.
In Canton a cop can't get a DUI. It just wouldn't happen. Everyone in that house was heavily intoxicated and drove. They were far more intoxicated than Karen. Matt and Jen McCabe are alcoholics and were drinking the whole day.
Come on!! How long to die in the cold? Phone information about steps and stairs and no one questions it.
If googled how long to die in cold that is bad. Why do that unless know he is outside. If all lying it’s disgusting. Protecting a killer and willing let innocent go jail.
May he rest in peace❤
No, you wouldn’t go outside- you’d think they were having a row and wouldn’t want to interfere.
The only thing that i can see being vehicle related to the injuries on his arm, would possibly be a very hard, sharp, quick and halting blow from a tire with snow chains... .But how would that even be possible, unless he was sitting on the ground already? There are so many possibilities in this case, as far as evidence is concerned, but nothing that makes one hundred percent fully acceptable sense at this point. I would dare to say, "Mark my words, 'There is something missing, and it is a key ingredient that will blow the lid off this case, once exposed!'"
You can’t find evidence you don’t look for. They never investigated the house or anyone inside of it. That’s why nothing makes one hundred percent fully acceptable sense at this point is because they failed to investigate it
Those are definitely not wounds from getting struck by a car.