'Unholy mess!' - Score review system in serious question post weekend blunder I AFL 360 I Fox Footy

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
  • The AFL 360 panel react to the weekends umpire error and what's the best way to move forward from consistent score review errors.
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Комментарии • 378

  • @WillyWanka
    @WillyWanka Год назад +58

    Seeing the fans footage from behind the goals WOW wtf it missed by a foot! and he had a clear view. That guy should be sacked immediately.

    • @yacobshelelshaddai4543
      @yacobshelelshaddai4543 Год назад +5

      I understand we make mistakes but wtf did he see?? Delusional!

    • @sweetsour6350
      @sweetsour6350 Год назад +14

      if this was south america that goal umpire would of been assasinated by now

    • @lintonburgess5392
      @lintonburgess5392 Год назад

      Should be a given really

    • @normally9210
      @normally9210 Год назад +1

      Lots of dodgy weak throw ins that seem to favour one team cant bounce the ball either

  • @alexanderletzing6705
    @alexanderletzing6705 Год назад +94

    Love that it's the next blokes job and Gill has nothing to answer for despite overseeing this disgrace for at least 10 years

    • @khsghsjf5161
      @khsghsjf5161 Год назад +1

      I mean I’m any business there always problems arising and the next person always has to look after it so it happens

    • @dragonoftheeast695
      @dragonoftheeast695 Год назад

      Seems a tad unfair

    • @jimmyriddle5246
      @jimmyriddle5246 Год назад +2

      He's got big hair. That's all that counts

    • @noproblama9971
      @noproblama9971 Год назад

      Gills the most useless, overpaid, overvalued moron ceo in the history of the world!

    • @HorizonOfHope
      @HorizonOfHope Год назад +1

      All he cares about is his bonus and next job.
      It’s why he can make stupid decisions like a garbage new broadcast deal and a 19th club while so many clubs are struggling because he knows he doesn’t have to actually deal with the consequences.

  • @haydenarthur3392
    @haydenarthur3392 Год назад +21

    “The best angle is from a punter on their phone” sums up how much the AFL has actually invested into their VAR system, as opposed to other sporting bodies.

  • @AndrewsCards
    @AndrewsCards Год назад +28

    Maybe if the AFL wasn't so obsessed with the "flow" of the game they could actually make some correct calls! I like the idea of every score within the last 2mins to be reviewed.

    • @imalwaysright
      @imalwaysright Год назад +3

      This! They’re sacrificing the integrity of the scoreboard and game by wanting to have quick play ons and drama. But commentators complaining about goal reviews and length has been a problem too - they complain about reviews then complain when this indictment happens

    • @AndrewsCards
      @AndrewsCards Год назад +1

      @@imalwaysright 100 percent agree.

    • @travellerandwriter
      @travellerandwriter Год назад +3

      the integrity of the game has been dragged through the mud over the last 5 years, the implementation of new rules is even more shambolic than the review system

    • @travellerandwriter
      @travellerandwriter Год назад

      Whatever the AFL’s views are on politically or moral issues, they have no business pushing those views onto fans or players at anytime.

    • @imalwaysright
      @imalwaysright Год назад

      @@sweetsour6350 if it was woke, they'd reverse the decision or do a replay match or give Crows points or something else than the position they've taken. You tried it.

  • @ultraxsandrine1703
    @ultraxsandrine1703 Год назад +15

    great vision and editing at the start, gave me chills and made me angry again

  • @JusReallyy
    @JusReallyy Год назад +3

    Nah for games like this the last 5 mins all close scores should be reviewed. I don’t care if it takes another 20 mins

  • @soppingclam
    @soppingclam Год назад +6

    Crows had 3 games lost by goal reviews showing not touched but the review comes back as touched. Then there was the last Collingwood game should have got a blatant free kick in front of goal but was ignored. Such a crock. The team that beats all the top team gets screwed by AFL all the damn time.
    Considering I am a Collingwood supporter, I feel for them. A team that never gets frees in their forward 50m and could win the flag with their young squad. Ah well Lucky they didn't make it in!

  • @travellerandwriter
    @travellerandwriter Год назад +53

    don't blame the umpire, blame this pretend system that is fundamentally flawed on many levels

    • @MickDoolan
      @MickDoolan Год назад

      your on what he didnt use the system you fool

    • @freethugga4L
      @freethugga4L Год назад +6

      Yeah the decision to put a multi million dollar league in the hands of one persons eyes

    • @bayden99
      @bayden99 Год назад +7

      Couldn't agree more! And for Gill to say it wasn't a system error, it was a human error is bullshit. The system is there to remove the human error and it failed

    • @yacobshelelshaddai4543
      @yacobshelelshaddai4543 Год назад

      @@Gazman67exactly!! Because they don’t review behinds because they want to make the game faster and higher scoring. Idiots!!

    • @imalwaysright
      @imalwaysright Год назад +1

      ⁠@@bayden99Gil’s presser was poor. The (current) system is flawed, so it was both system and human error

  • @tonycarey1735
    @tonycarey1735 Год назад +5

    It's probably useless speculation, but I wonder what would have happened if this scenario was repeated for a big Victorian club. I doubt if 'Oops, sorry chaps, move on' would cut it.

    • @danmitch5085
      @danmitch5085 Год назад +1

      It literally happened to Melbourne the week before. Goal was called touched in the dying moments when it wasn’t. Cost Melbourne the game

  • @imalwaysright
    @imalwaysright Год назад +40

    Gerard laid it out perfectly
    The fancam behind the goals is damning!!

  • @andrewwhite6586
    @andrewwhite6586 Год назад +16

    If it was a Collingwood game there would still be rioting, and rightly so.

    • @evehsv5556
      @evehsv5556 Год назад +1

      Exactly right. We would never have taken this laying down not a Fkn chance.

    • @pcorf
      @pcorf Год назад +1

      @@evehsv5556 Imagine if it happened to Collingwood in the Grand Final this year (if they get there). They'd burn the stadium down.

    • @evehsv5556
      @evehsv5556 Год назад +1

      @@pcorf For sure Buddy. Do the right thing nothing happens do the wrong thing and chaos erupts. 😂😂😂

  • @Luke-po2qc
    @Luke-po2qc Год назад +45

    The Afl can't afford to have the Swans miss the finals.

    • @VADER4GAMING
      @VADER4GAMING Год назад

      Swans make finals every year

    • @jessehaberle9094
      @jessehaberle9094 Год назад +4

      Too bad don’t cheat to get the result you want. Should’ve overturned it the minute they admitted it was a mistake.

    • @AJHornet1
      @AJHornet1 Год назад +13

      Don’t put down to malice what can be easily explained by incompetence.

    • @tb7667
      @tb7667 Год назад

      Yes, because the afl often alters the scores of games because of umpiring mistakes . They should what they usually do when an umpire makes a mistake, add a goal to one of the teams. Otherwise they are corrupt. 🤡

    • @cmadelaide56
      @cmadelaide56 Год назад +3

      Yep, the AFL asked North to mess up their interchange, and then said to the goal umpire that if it goes close to automatically call it a point… (far easier to blame a conspiracy than actually think about it).

  • @snipee-mi5jl
    @snipee-mi5jl Год назад +6

    crows supporter here, never have i felt more upset and angry after a game, i was sitting in the nosebleeds of the riverbank stand, and it was a clear as day goal even from there, i actually can’t accept that the goal umpire could have possibly thought that was a point, utterly disgraceful

  • @mesbahhawli3406
    @mesbahhawli3406 Год назад +3

    Give the crows the 4 points and move on. An apology is not enough.

  • @RS-qy8pk
    @RS-qy8pk Год назад +8

    Could have been 7 teams actively playing for a position in the eight. Due to one non-call to make use of a technology, only three teams will be fighting for a place in the eight.

  • @bkozican
    @bkozican Год назад +3

    AFL created this mess, Changed the rules around kick in's (dont have to wait for the white flag from both umps). An absolute mess and the AFL will give some under the table deal to keep Adelaide quiet

    • @darrenkoch1718
      @darrenkoch1718 Год назад +1

      Yup! 100%. We can’t allow 20seconds of down time while umpires confer or a ball is run back to the centre.

  • @greyhairedphantom4038
    @greyhairedphantom4038 Год назад +1

    They suspend the goal umpires, what about the three central umpires, or do they have vision problems, so get off?

  • @bennygarvey
    @bennygarvey Год назад +2

    We have a league that has a poor score review system.
    We have a league that has unfair draws towards certain clubs.
    We have a league that make a team play home game 80kms away from home.
    We have a league we're home games are not really home games at times.
    We have a league that favours a certain clubs supporters .
    It's cooked. The whole thing.

  • @Josh_JKL
    @Josh_JKL Год назад +3

    The phone behind the goals being the best footage is not correct. The first angle they showed in this video it was clearly a goal, if they reviewed that, the technology would have got it right!

  • @andrewrobinson9279
    @andrewrobinson9279 Год назад +6

    Two umpire mistakes cost Adelaide 2 games this year, and a finals appearance. They should be in the 8 now. It’s NOT GOOD enough! Even the NRL do it better with captains challenges and score reviews.

    • @theflyingdropbear2009
      @theflyingdropbear2009 Год назад +2

      that's right, the AFL is so far behind the times and with so much money being made, that they can afford to improve the technology. It isn't just the Crows that have been robbed because of poor umpiring on the goal line, other teams have been screwed as well.
      for a professional sport that is the AFL, these sorts of issues are sub-standard, and are in need of serious fixing, they cannot have fan footage that is far superior to their technology, as the optics of it is terrible.

    • @darrenmiles-morland8038
      @darrenmiles-morland8038 Год назад

      It's not the umpiring decisions. Adelaide are still a developing team, and part of their development is needing to learn to play harder and tougher for longer. This is all part of a learning experience for them. If they are good enough they will benefit greatly from the setbacks that they have experienced this season. Look at what happened with Geelong a year or two later after they led all night in the 2005 Semi Final against the Swans in Sydney, only to have Nick Davis steal the lead off them and put the Swans in front with just seconds remaining. They won 3 flags from 4 Grand Final appearances in 5 years.

    • @davewalsh9802
      @davewalsh9802 Год назад

      @@darrenmiles-morland8038that is called distraction and deflection - politicians try that on all the time.

  • @leed9508
    @leed9508 Год назад +3

    The worst part is the AFL hasn't acknowledged or even posted this apology on their social media pages. I understand that Matthew Nicks doesn't want to be a pessimist and say we lost it in the 1st and 2nd quarter and not blame the umpires, but the reality is we won the game and only lost due to this monstrosity of an error BY the umpires.

  • @adampedley3534
    @adampedley3534 Год назад +2

    The Crows are entitled to compensation under the law, it is a walk-up start finished win case. I believe if the Crows CEO does not want to pursue this case then he needs to step down from his position or be dismissed. Any other out come is un acceptable and Crows fans could boycott future AFL matches. Negligence, it has happened before therefore it was foreseeable in the future and the AFL has done nothing to remedy. clear cut negligence.

  • @matthewpowell9403
    @matthewpowell9403 Год назад +2

    Afl fined a club 100k for not properly doing concussion tests.
    How much should afl have to pay for not correctly doing a review?

  • @antoninoorfano8187
    @antoninoorfano8187 Год назад +7

    Don't get me started
    Richmond vs Brisbane last year.

  • @travellerandwriter
    @travellerandwriter Год назад +3

    yep, the AFL has been asleep at the wheel on this for 15 years, now the bus has crashed and Adelaide have to pay the price.

  • @MrPezzzz
    @MrPezzzz Год назад +5

    you need higher fps cameras for replays afl, the frame skips sometimes are too big.

  • @greyhairedphantom4038
    @greyhairedphantom4038 Год назад +6

    Cricket has the review system right. In the hands of the captain of the offended side, as it bloody well should be!

  • @yacobshelelshaddai4543
    @yacobshelelshaddai4543 Год назад +2

    ITS SIMPLE! Review all goals and all behinds. Problem solved. Also buy some proper slow motion cameras!!
    They don’t review behinds because they want to make the game quicker in the hopes it will be higher scoring , attract more fans and make more money. It’s all about money. Forget the money review the behinds get good cameras and cut the bullshit.

  • @Hunty49
    @Hunty49 Год назад +1

    Even at the bare minimum they need the goal line camera to be 4K 60fps. You need better frame by frame slow motion. RUclipsrs have better camera equipment.

  • @conkrekos4354
    @conkrekos4354 Год назад +5

    I have never been an Adelaide supporter, but, the AFL in its jurisdiction and ? wisdom, should have overruled the decision and given the 4 points to the Crows. Even the crowd at the far end saw this as a goal.

    • @jamescaldwell7396
      @jamescaldwell7396 Год назад +1

      There was over a minute to go… ridiculous comment. If it was the last play then yes.

    • @noproblama9971
      @noproblama9971 Год назад

      maybe should replay the match? what do you think the solution is?@@jamescaldwell7396

  • @jeffd05defive57
    @jeffd05defive57 Год назад +5

    Seriously, this has been a problem for years and should have been addressed at the beginning as the pictures look almost like a child's painting. It never was good enough and the system was never good enough, but now that it has affected a teams finals chances, it has become an issue. This was always going to happen, should have been addressed from the start.

  • @grantknott
    @grantknott Год назад +3

    I’ve commented before and I’m still disgusted with this ( I’m a Blues supporter btw) it is not just the monumental error from the goal umpire, but the field umpires are not even spoken about. They would have seen how close this was and the manifestation of Crows players celebrations. So why in the fucking hell didn’t they have it looked at?

  • @stevecini2964
    @stevecini2964 Год назад +2

    GET RID of Hitting The Post Rule It s 2023 They Talk About Getting Rid Of Centre Bounces WAKE UP AFL Adelaide Should Protest

  • @davidagiel8130
    @davidagiel8130 Год назад +12

    All of this could be implemented and makes sense, there doesn't need to be a soft call, all goals can be reviewed immediately and if the umpire got it wrong they can ring the siren, stop play, call the correct score and reset the timer. Players/captains should also be able to call for a video review.

    • @moocher9935
      @moocher9935 Год назад +2

      The only thing with Players & Captains calling for a review ... I can clearly see already in my mind that it will be used as a delaying tactic especially when it's a close game... Not allowing for the attacking side to try & move the ball quickly...
      I do totally agree with everything else 👍👍👍

    • @THOOODAI
      @THOOODAI Год назад +2

      @@moocher9935Agree, it’s a grey area that essentially implements a “timeout” If there is a captain review, where teams can reset their structure. Not sure what the best option going forward is.

    • @Sterkleton_
      @Sterkleton_ Год назад +1

      @@moocher9935 If you were to make it that the Captain only has 1 strike on a call for video review. Then if the request was determined to be a correct request, they keep their video request. If they are wrong about the request then they no longer can use it. Pretty simple way to make it so that it cant be abused.

    • @moocher9935
      @moocher9935 Год назад

      @@Sterkleton_ again I agree to a point with your philosophy but again... If it's a tight game & the review has not been used then it could still be used as delaying tac tic

    • @Shaun-o8g
      @Shaun-o8g Год назад +1

      ​@@Sterkleton_the only fair way is that all goals get reviewed... don't want a goal to be reviewed, then don't let the opposition have a shot on goal. If you do then put up with a goal being reviewed.

  • @matthewpowell9403
    @matthewpowell9403 Год назад +2

    So why wasn't human error allowed for the concussion testing? Fined the club any player should now,be able to use human error as an excuse when reported. Good enough for Gill to use that excuse why can't everyone else?

  • @100percentsurf
    @100percentsurf Год назад +20

    The new rule should be if it hits the post and goes in its a goal. If it hits the point posts and goes in its a point. If it hits any post and goes back on the field the ball stays in play. All that has to be reviewed then is that the ball has gone past the posts and that it has not been touched. If the umpire is not sure about it being touched then the call should be done by the review system. If that is not conclusive then its a goal. This minimizes umpire error and umpire manipulation.

    • @PeterAtkinson
      @PeterAtkinson Год назад +6

      100% agree, need to be removing the grey area from our game. To suspend the umpire over one bad call when there should be policies/procedures in place to prevent this from happening. 👍👍

    • @edoniszk1615
      @edoniszk1615 Год назад +1

      Not a new idea… nevertheless its a great one… lets also introduce the SANFL last touch out of bounds off the boot… two grey areas that constantly upset the paying public..now if we could ever get the holding the ball/incorrect disposal rule fixed it would again be a great game…!

    • @mangoman2148
      @mangoman2148 Год назад +6

      Imagine scores are level and you have a shot after the siren. Any score will win. You hit the goal post, it bounces back into play for no score and the game ends in a draw. Meanwhile, if you had shanked the kick a further 6 metres off line and it barely scraped in for a behind, you would have won. Doesn't that seem a little silly?

    • @greyhairedphantom4038
      @greyhairedphantom4038 Год назад +2

      Just get rid of posts, if you then kick it over the boundary, anywhere on the oval, it's a goal! That would be as sensible as that idea.

    • @100percentsurf
      @100percentsurf Год назад +2

      @@mangoman2148 No that's not silly. In soccer the ball has to go into the goal. If it hits the post and goes in, its a goal. If it hits the post and bounces out it is no score. Simple. Most games that have Goal posts have these rules

  • @llobj001
    @llobj001 Год назад +1

    #Award1stRoundDraftPicks - AFL make this right. Award compensation first round picks to Adelaide for multiple stuffups and all the other hardships you have forced this club to endure since it's existence.
    Accountability, great. Weldone AFL. Where is the compensation?

  • @DV-zv4ox
    @DV-zv4ox Год назад +2

    The AFL has to implement the same system as association football/soccer. The fact that not only all goals are reviewed but potential penalties, disallowed goals and red card challenges can all be reviewed while normal play resumes shows that the system can and does work when implemented correctly. This has to happen in 2024. No excuses.

  • @noproblama9971
    @noproblama9971 Год назад +1

    HAPPENED AGAIN IN THE HAWKS GAME Dylan Moore looked like he kicked a goal and umpire called a point but it needed to be reviewed that's like the day after this one!!!

  • @GK-wx6xo
    @GK-wx6xo Год назад +2

    Chiefs v Bengals Championship Game last season the teams ran another play before the referee made a correction and reset the clock. Thats what should happen in the AFL.

  • @sevmiros7016
    @sevmiros7016 Год назад +2

    All this talk! So SIMPLE to fix! Thru the goal...ITS A GOAL...touch post or not! No time wasting on reviews, no mistakes!

  • @jackduncan7214
    @jackduncan7214 Год назад +2

    Sirengate, they overturned the descison, why arent they doing it now? The precident was set then, whats changed now? The ceo has come out and said its a goal, so it should have been a goal. Crows need to fight this so much more! Afl needs to pay crows a massive fine and more than justvan apology. As a pies fan that was at the game, its an absolute joke!

    • @athlonen
      @athlonen 4 месяца назад

      While I agree about Sirengate, the conditions were different. Sirengate was about play continuing after the final siren sounded and shots for goal after that final siren sounded. For this match, there was still over a minute to play, and there would have been a different setup and positioning with that much time left. You’re looking at a kick in from a point versus a center bounce clearance, 6-6-6, and then getting numbers back to defend. The time left makes all the difference.

  • @ytyndale3643
    @ytyndale3643 Год назад +1

    AFL stuffed up and now the 2023 season doesn't even matter.

  • @bossman1792
    @bossman1792 Год назад +6

    I am a Carlton supporter and in the previous weeks match against Melbourne the disallowed goal from Petracca in the final minute looked like it was a goal. If the technology was up to scratch in a multi billion dollar industry, this would have probably been resolved the right way. Marchbank may have touched it but he will be the only one who really knows for sure. Technically (very technically) the field umpire could have paid a free to Marchbank for chopping of the arm however, I think if it was (and probably should have been) called a goal, I would have had no issues with that.

    • @fozalinko
      @fozalinko Год назад

      I would, Marchbank isn't a liar.

    • @YourFavouriteAustralian
      @YourFavouriteAustralian Год назад

      the thing is the soft call was a point and they couldn't tell wheteher its been touched or not so its not a dissallowed goal as the soft call was touched

  • @grantknott
    @grantknott Год назад +1

    So if the Gil and the rest of the AFL are truly sorry about this, why don’t they implement something NOW to make sure this injustice does not happen again. I’m willing to bet that they implement nothing of worth before finals or before next week. Nothing. So are they truly sorry and are they willing to do something? No they’re not. It’s all shallow public talk. The question remains…Why can’t they do something this year? What is stopping them? Incompetence, laziness? Yeah, probably

  • @Simmo87
    @Simmo87 Год назад +1

    Gerard used the word "unacceptable", but everyone is being asked to accept it. Perhaps not going forward, but for the rnd 23 game.

  • @z.p9997
    @z.p9997 Год назад +1

    An umpire on the field can override another umpires decision and call play back, why can't a review umpire over ride the goal umpire if they have seen clear evidence within 10-20 seconds of the incident? Easy solution

  • @rb6725
    @rb6725 Год назад +1

    Im done with the AFL and gone back to local footy where they really need and appreciate the support. Vote with your wallets and purses.

  • @joshuamatthews3486
    @joshuamatthews3486 Год назад +1

    What about the Jeremy Cameron goal against Collingwood when he got hand balled the ball while standing a meter or so over the boundary, does the AFL only care about umpiring decisions if they happen in the final stages and directly affect who wins

  • @theflyingdropbear2009
    @theflyingdropbear2009 Год назад +1

    these stuff ups have happened far too often not only in this season to multiple other teams, but also in prior seasons, the AFL have enough money to imrpove the tech, such as having a hotspot system in place to ensure that the ball either doesn't touch the player, or hits the post. In the case of the Adelaide Crows, having cameras pointing downwards from the top of each goalpost.
    that anything close like that should immediately be sent upstairs, the reality is, this is meant to be a professional sport, these sorts of things are not good enough, which brings into play, that the AFL should allow for each team to instigate score reviews tactically, which could be a couple of score reviews per quarter, and to have a single decision review for wrong calls or non-calls anywhere on the field.
    for a professional sport, the umpiring at times has been shocking, having player reviews, would most likely make the umpires be a little more careful about their decisions, for a professional sport, having umpiring this bad at times, is simply not good enough, it has happened far too often this season, and in prior seasons, too many teams have been screwed over by terrible umpiring.

  • @grahamreid7017
    @grahamreid7017 Год назад +1

    Quite simply should have been checked. I don't think it matters who you support you have to call this an absolute disgrace. The AFL HAS TO compensate the Crows for this and compensate very heavily.

  • @mickannieobrien2803
    @mickannieobrien2803 Год назад

    The AFL is a joke, they should have overturned that result immediately or even now? talk about stuffing up a once great game. The quicker Gil go's away the better and take that goal umpire with you as well.

  • @thomaspiscioneri7917
    @thomaspiscioneri7917 Год назад +2

    And also the tigers vs lions that final in 2022
    Tom lych goal. Tigers should of won that match as it didn’t hit the post

    • @TheMemeMachineMatt
      @TheMemeMachineMatt Год назад

      Yeah but it went over the post meaning it hit the post. Was a point the moment he decided not to kick a drop punt from 10m out.

  • @ashleckie
    @ashleckie Год назад +2

    It's a sports betting nightmare also

  • @TheMissiIe
    @TheMissiIe Год назад +2

    AFL need a VAR, the ability to check goals well after the fact, and far more cameras and better slowmo

  • @craigtibbetts2925
    @craigtibbetts2925 Год назад +3

    Tom Hickey knew that was a goal 😮

  • @rhysh2639
    @rhysh2639 Год назад +1

    The best thing to do would be to remove the four points from Sydney and replay the match on the weekend before the finals.....but we know the AFL won't do that.

    • @spaceballs2462
      @spaceballs2462 Год назад

      Great idea. Or golden point so the teams can rest up still

    • @rhysh2639
      @rhysh2639 Год назад

      @@spaceballs2462 Also, unless there is BLATANT evidence that the ball hit the post (e.g. deviation of trajectory) or was touched (e.g. visible movement of fingers or deviation of trajectory), it should always be called a goal.
      Anything inconclusive should be a GOAL, this would stop anything like this from happening.

  • @daviecrockett2272
    @daviecrockett2272 Год назад +1

    It has been flagged all year that this technology or lack of, will cost a team their place in the final.. Well here it is, shattering.

  • @latenightlogic
    @latenightlogic Год назад +1

    The afl should have had the balls to overturn the games result. Complete bullshit.

  • @matthewpowell9403
    @matthewpowell9403 Год назад +1

    Just go back to players can't kick in if a point until umpire has signalled with his flags to other goal umpire. That gives time to review ..

  • @bacillus5
    @bacillus5 Год назад +1

    If it was richmond it would be glossed over as a point nothing to see here

  • @de1623
    @de1623 Год назад +3

    Definitely should be checks on any suspicious bank transactions for both the goal umpire and field umpire. The way the goal umpire was so quick on the signal seemed really suspicious to me. I'm no crows fan either!

    • @normally9210
      @normally9210 Год назад

      I also saw many boundary throw ins that favoured sydney on the western wing by the same umpire its in a lot of games

  • @WillyWanka
    @WillyWanka Год назад +2

    Jordan is right, what if this happens again in a final, which is possible. They will have to tweak a rule.

  • @MrWhitmen1981
    @MrWhitmen1981 Год назад +2

    It’s a circus 🤡

  • @TheGunmanChannel
    @TheGunmanChannel Год назад

    I've been saying this for years

  • @kyrinstewart2445
    @kyrinstewart2445 Год назад +2

    We still talk about the marchbank call but people don’t talk about van rooyen chopping his arm which you can’t do so would’ve been a free kick anyway

  • @bloodyhellism
    @bloodyhellism Год назад +2

    I'd be demanding replaying the 70 seconds. Blind freddy could tell that was a goal. Hate the crows with a passion but cant have that

  • @julianlawson1608
    @julianlawson1608 Год назад +1

    The NHL's system is the best is sport, if the refs can't make a call it goes to the match centre in Toronto where they have better technology to make the right call. Sometimes this takes upwards of 5 mins but you know the right call is going to be made

  • @ozzrob8125
    @ozzrob8125 Год назад

    With the AFL pushing supporters into betting on games who becomes responsible for the monies lost due to the failures. With the amount of money bookies are making on games how much is being offered to officials to fix results? That one decision wasn't the only questionable one made by umpires that cost Adelaide's the game. It was almost like the AFL wanted the Crows to lose.

  • @minirobo7904
    @minirobo7904 Год назад +1

    it shouldn't have been down to a review to cost the game, 7 (8 if you count the goal that "hit" the post) behinds being kicked in last quarter cost the game. Have to do better. And AFL robbed them, dont get me wrong, biggest robbery in the history of mankind

    • @JohnHenrySMH
      @JohnHenrySMH Год назад

      I know what you're saying, but they did enough to win. Teams shouldn't have to account for errors like this.

  • @tangels
    @tangels Год назад +1

    Should have been overturned.

  • @blueCrayon33
    @blueCrayon33 Год назад +1

    Why don't they go to a review system if the game is that close and in the final minutes of s game?

  • @ThePopshe
    @ThePopshe Год назад +1

    Unpardonable mistake in this day of technology!

  • @fordfalcon85
    @fordfalcon85 Год назад

    What about the high speed motion cameras MythBusters were using 20 plus years ago??!!

  • @lukeoliver1384
    @lukeoliver1384 Год назад +2

    The afl should be ashamed

    • @nathanjuliebalkwill7332
      @nathanjuliebalkwill7332 Год назад

      Crows supporter here but this is proof that the afl chooses its team for a fairytale finish. I'm looking at Sydney, Collingwood (no offence) and Brisbane. Good luck port in finals with umpires like that.

    • @nathanjuliebalkwill7332
      @nathanjuliebalkwill7332 Год назад

      Karma will greet those swans in finals

  • @LP004
    @LP004 Год назад

    People saying either it’s the umpires fault or the technology’s fault, when clearly both are at fault, the technology is awful half the time because the frame rate of all but 1 camera is abysmal, sometimes the video evidence is clear and correct calls are made, but other times impossible to tell because of the blurry vision, which is then referred back to the umpire who wasn’t sure in the first place.
    Then you have the Adelaide situation where the umpire didn’t even call for a review, which the video evidence clearly would’ve overturned his call, it’s both humans and the technology that’s unbelievably flawed, and both need to be improved immensely as soon as possible, the only consistent thing about score review is snicko, this has screwed up the season beyond belief.

  • @kokmuncher6702
    @kokmuncher6702 Год назад +1

    The AFL gets more and more corrupt every year this is just another example of a fixed match. Won’t be watching the afl ever again this is the last straw

  • @CJArnold-hq3ey
    @CJArnold-hq3ey Год назад +1

    The most disgusting thing I've seen in football since the Filth Matthews did to Bruns a blight on our National Game worse still the eyes on the world on Australia at the time as the Women's World cup was on same Night ,shame shame shame

  • @Driftty
    @Driftty Год назад +1

    I’m pissed.

  • @DiceMan72
    @DiceMan72 Год назад +1

    A multi billion dollar sport to worried about political issues instead of having a world class review system.

    • @sweetsour6350
      @sweetsour6350 Год назад

      Correct getting involved in things that the have no right to. just fn woke B/S

    • @rhysh2639
      @rhysh2639 Год назад

      Exactly, too busy shoving left-wing politics down peoples' throats instead of focusing on the game.

  • @markwhelan9887
    @markwhelan9887 Год назад +4

    Knowing that it was a mistake i cant understand how they cant overide the loss and give the Crows the win. We all know the swans were cooked the crows ran over the top of the swans.

    • @yacobshelelshaddai4543
      @yacobshelelshaddai4543 Год назад

      Because there was still a minute left duhh how can you claim a crows win?!?

    • @JohnHenrySMH
      @JohnHenrySMH Год назад +1

      @@yacobshelelshaddai4543 So it's ok to deny Adelaide a real goal that they fairly kicked, on the off chance that maybe Sydney would have kicked a goal against the flow of play? You realize for the quarter it was 37 points to 1, 12 scoring shots to 1.

    • @markwhelan9887
      @markwhelan9887 Год назад

      @@yacobshelelshaddai4543 Easy the Swans had stopped no run in there legs and the crows were the team doing the scoring and after the goal the players were celebrating the goal after ten to twenty seconds they got the incorrect news and it shocked them. Like it would it was blattently clear the ball didn't touch the post at any stage of its journey.Ben keays would be devastated knowing he kicked the winning goal with just over a minute to go. Only to find out it was mistakedly ruled a behind. And teams can bounce back but coaches can lose their jobs at the end of a season like this, Nicks has done a great job this year only to realise all hope of finals are now dashed. 32 point lead at 3 quarter time only to be overun by a hungry crows outfit tells you all you need to know about the likely winner of this match.

  • @new5057
    @new5057 Год назад

    I love AFL because of the quirks. Bad decisions occur every game. Demons v Blues - even the score review couldn't work it out so it's the umpires decision. In the Crows v Sydney game , score review would have reversed the umpires decision. Bad decisions happen all the time - its just what happens in our game. Lets not go down the path of reviewing every decision. How many incorrect free kicks directly result in goals? Will we review those too? We'll end up reviewing every decision and 100 minutes of football will take many hours to complete.

  • @whatthe3131
    @whatthe3131 Год назад

    AN APOLOGY IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH! Do the right thing AFL. The whole 2023 season is now a farce.

  • @TopShelfOzzie
    @TopShelfOzzie Год назад

    Absolute joke! If this was a Victorian team it would of never happened... Cheaters

  • @J-Banger-zc8vm
    @J-Banger-zc8vm Год назад

    Absolute disgrace. Time to drain the VFL swamp

  • @chrisharrison2759
    @chrisharrison2759 Год назад

    I personally dislike the crows, but this is a business, not a sport.
    The AFL should be held liable for faulty workplace practice and duly sued for financial losses.
    Technically the game should have been null and void and replayed the following week.

  • @tonyburford2505
    @tonyburford2505 Год назад

    They should have called for the reveiw......the umpire is to blame ....where he was standing no way he could have been certain just B.......s

  • @mrrobg61
    @mrrobg61 Год назад

    Yep. Umpire needs to be sacked, AFL needs to implement rule changes yada yada yada. How about the Crows take some responsibility for their crap goal kicking, which has cost them games all year. Four goals eight in that last quarter with at least three of those behinds being set shots from within the 50. Kick anyone of those three and this discussion becomes a footnote instead of the main game.

  • @Smokemm
    @Smokemm Год назад

    The afl is a mickey mouse organisation. Cant even follow its own rules set in place and then it makes changes to them every year wonder why noone can get these calls right. Pretty basic one to be fair though. Also think its not the umpires fault. Crows should have won 14-15 games this year we did that to ourselves in a way. All we can do is start pre season early and show them next year why we should be in September.

  • @matthewlay9221
    @matthewlay9221 Год назад +3

    Was it a bad call? Yes, it was a bad call, but to say the crows didn't make the finals because of this is stupid. It's one decision in an entire season. The crows didn't make the finals because they can't win on the road. They didn't win this match because they were outplayed by Sydney for most of the match. Its ridiculous to say one decision has ruined their season. As for the umpire, for years people have been saying that the video review is used to much and that it slows down the game and that umpires should just make the call and here we are, the umpire made a call and now everyone is saying he should have reviewed it. Utter ridiculous. I'm sorry for the crows fans but to your whole season down to this is a let off on your players and staff.

    • @darrenmiles-morland8038
      @darrenmiles-morland8038 Год назад +1

      The only person that I have seen commenting on here so far who can see this for what it really is. I 100% wholeheartedly agree with everything that you have said. I get it that the wrong decision got made by the goal umpire. But it hasn't cost the Crows their season, as everyone else on here seems to think. It has only cost them the match against the Swans. The Crows have lost several close matches this season. Had they won even half of these they wouldn't be in the position that they find themselves in now. They've only got themselves to blame for missing the finals, and cannot blame one incorrect goal umpiring decision for this.

    • @imalwaysright
      @imalwaysright Год назад

      You can say that about any team scrapping into the finals. When teams come back from a terrible first half or from 50 points down, we praise them. But if they come back and it's an umpire error, you say get over it. You wouldn't have the same view if it was your team.

    • @rhysh2639
      @rhysh2639 Год назад +1

      Yes the call was wrong....but you're right. Adelaide were just not good enough throughout the season. Even at home, they struggled against the Sydney Swans and lost to GWS.
      Even if they made the finals, they would just be making up the numbers.

  • @joshuamatthews3486
    @joshuamatthews3486 Год назад

    Throughout most games there are countless potential free kicks missed, if a player had prior opportunity to dispose, was it high or did the player duck, how far players run with the ball without bouncing, in the back decisions and all the incidents that happen off the ball, we can’t go to a system that every contest is being reviewed, or a 3 hour game will turn into a 6 hour game

  • @jonathoncalabrese2035
    @jonathoncalabrese2035 Год назад +3

    I thought the Carlton v melb deck was bad.. this is appalling

  • @Harve955
    @Harve955 Год назад

    What rubbish their season ended when they kicked 4 goals 8 behinds in the last quarter as well as their appalling kicking for goal at crucial times throughout the year.

  • @jimmyb425
    @jimmyb425 Год назад

    Hotspot technology similar to cricket review system is the obvious answer.

  • @simplesimon4717
    @simplesimon4717 Год назад

    Terrible mistake but a human mistake. Nonetheless, Adelaide are a great side, and as Matty Nicks said, someone broke the mirror.

  • @adrianoliveri2979
    @adrianoliveri2979 Год назад

    If it's about kick ims and defense set to stop quick kick in.make players stop and not move until kick in comes to give no advantage to kick in defending team

  • @Samanater456
    @Samanater456 Год назад +2

    Corruption of the highest level. Be interesting to see who the goal up supports

    • @cmadelaide56
      @cmadelaide56 Год назад +1

      It’s not corruption, it’s just blinkered inaction. The only thing keeping it there is that it screws over every team - but this is bigger than any other so they surely can’t sit on their hands any longer.

    • @normally9210
      @normally9210 Год назад

      Many of the boundary throw ins favoured sydney , particularly western side not hard to see

  • @alexerwin3262
    @alexerwin3262 Год назад

    Bro using the music from Dunkirk for an AFL montage lol

  • @derivious2012
    @derivious2012 Год назад

    cricket, has high def, ultra high frame rate replays where you can see a fleas arse on the ball. in afl its a shaky cam with Vaseline over the lens.

  • @chriscoomber2035
    @chriscoomber2035 Год назад

    why cant Gil spend some of his millions his pillaged over the past decade and fix this trash