yea they legit had the mindset of the fact that every point mattered, it can affect gws' percentage that actually is super important right now. so it was good to review, this one was even more important than that being both teams finals hopes, the result gets flipped then all of a sudden swans, essendon,crows and even geelong are all back in finals contention
@@seanblack5789 You're right, should've been about 4 cats frees to 30 saints. Everyone knows the cats are dirty dogs, they're finally not getting away with it anymore.
Sydney were on their knees, resigned to saving the game. In the wet, it was very unlikely they would have won if the goal stood. With West Coast to come for Adelaide and Sydney playing Melbourne, GWS playing Carlton and Dogs playing Geelong, good chance Adelaide scrape into 8th. Absolute disgrace. They review goals, WHY not points? Makes no sense. That goal umpire is a four eyed disgrace, but the whole system is f*cked.
Not enough Umpires, we need 8 goal Umpires and 36 Field Umpires. A goal Umpire for every post and an Umpire for every player. LMAO. To think back in the 70's there was just one field umpire and two boundary umpires.
This was absolutely shocking, and I support Hawthorn. I don't think the fans can let the AFL move on from this. We need to remind them about it constantly from now on until something changes.
The fact it was not reviewed is criminal, fair enough the umpire called it a point as it was clearly very close but not reviewing it is insane. sure there was still a minute left and sydney could have won anyway but not giving the crows a chance is so bad
The counter-argument is that if those get reviewed throughout the season, and are correct 999 times out of a thousand, the team taking the kick-in can be disadvantaged for no reason because they have to wait to take the kick out and any open player won't be open any more. The timing on this error is unfortunate for sure, but so often fixing one thing because of a one-off leads to other more regular problems which could easily result in other teams missing finals off the back of them.
@@TheGreatLordDufus but when there is about a minute left in the game and the decision pretty much will dictate the winner plus have huge implications on half a dozen teams making the finals then without doubt you have to review the call
I dont even understand this comment, congrats on knowing the only famous goal umpire cos he is a former player? Not like he is a notoriously good umpire
I hate it when he awards a goal against, or a point for Richmond (with a smile) the bloody traitor. He got his premiership ay, but not three. Hahahaha!
Even an Eagles fan I like the Swannies (even with that 171 point PTSD I went through), but you guys seriously have got to count your blessings *I think Swans are most popular team in AFL from neutral fans (when their team isn’t playing) *won against the Roos, controversial interchange free kick & 50 *won over the Crows by an error Outside a few exceptions earlier this season (Port touching one on the siren), jesus you guys have been lucky this year!! 😂… I am not taking anything away from you guys (Swans deserve to be where they are), but man I would be pinching myself if I was from Sydney. Also we secured a finals for you guys and Saints by upsetting the doggies yesterday, but Eagles are not beloved at all from neutrals 😂.
Because the field umpire is not responsible for the score. The field umpire does not need to confirm the goal umpires decision as such and can be overruled by the goal umpire.
Goal umpires CAN make a decision without it being confirmed by the central umpire. Back in the day, central umpires would use 'soft signals' to indicate their preference. When calling out all clear, two hands to the mouth would mean 'I think it's a goal', one hand would mean 'I think it's a point''...and hands behind the back would mean 'I don't know, I cant help you' [which in modern AFL, would mean 'how about we have a look at the video'.
The field umpires giving an 'all clear' is just about confirming to the goal umpire that there are no free kicks and they can wave the score. Goal umpire is completely responsible for determining if/when the ball crosses the goal/behind line or hits the post.
Well they are still confirming it, so they can start providing additional support for these close calls. Let me also respond to you all that we have 10 umpires on the field of play at any one time.
That's ridiculous. One incorrect umpiring decision doesn't cost a team their finals position when there are many moments in 23 other rounds of the season that contribute to teams not making the finals. Play better for longer, and you won't miss the finals or put yourself in a position to do so.
The AFL rules committee should give teams a right to challenge the goal umpire's decision, for video review, like in tennis and cricket. In this case, Adelaide would of had a right to challenge the wrong call by the goal umpire. Because field and goal umpires make mistakes. This mistake is going to cost Adelaide a chance to make the finals. If teams can challenge goal umpiring decisions, this can correct crucial mistakes in all games. Also need a better video review system.
its not even just adelaide, that one call locked out essendon and geelong aswell, all 3 of those teams can make it if the results favour them if that game went to adelaide, essendon would need sydney,dogs to lose and win their game, geelong can if they beat the dogs and essendon,sydney and adelaide lose, aswell as adelaide if essendon, sydney and the dogs lose and with the way the year is going literally all of those hypotheticals are possible
We said exactly the same thing teams should be able to challenge a call for goal like the tennis or Rugby. Instead if a player challenges an umpire it’s called a dissent rule and the opposition is awarded a free kick. Go figure.
That goal umpire guessed! He was unsighted as 2 Sydney players jumped up trying to touch the ball in front of him. You can see the goal ump go lower. He did not see the ball. He guessed. Field ump should be sacked as well.
AFL administrators once again Pass the Buck" this has been going on for months as highlighted by Matty last week, AFL should pay Adelaide compensation for poss. finals miss. The only way officials will improve system is for them to pay a penalty
They would. Collingwood has lost grannies numerous times from the umpires. 2002 Rocca kicked a goal in the last minutes and the umpires said it was a point
This is the crows second lose from terrible umpiring. They also cost the crows a free kick against Collingwood to Dawson in the dying seconds. Maybe he doesn’t kick the goal but now 8 premiership points lost due to the afl. No wonder more and more people feel the game is bias and corrupt. My need to find a nrl team to follow.
@@silverslave333 I am not sure they care. Tickets keep selling so they will keep on keeping on. Wouldn’t be half surprised to see a wanted top 8 in afl hq at the start of each season.
@whatthe3131 sadly I remember that as well. Isn’t just Adelaide it happens to either. Suspect you look back at most interstate team and they would all have multiple monomers like that. Just to remind us that it’s the vfl we are just lucky to be able to play.
I'm a Swans fan through and through and it's hard to understand how this could have happened. Sorry Crows fans, it was a magnificent comeback and should have been recorded as a successful one.
They use the tech in the Demons v Carlton game last week and get it wrong. They don't use the tech here and get it wrong. The league keeps embarrassing themselves and the last thing we need for the game is umpiring pile ons cause it cascades to junior levels.
And were Fitzroy also robbed of a victory against the Crows at Football Park in 1991 because the Crows got the rub of the green in the final 2 minutes of the match, receiving a succession of controversial free kicks? What short memories we've got. Or perhaps you hadn't been born yet in 1991.
@@darrenmiles-morland8038 Are you really bringing up a game that happened 32 years ago to suggest this is karma? What an absolute joke of a comment. I can imagine you've been saying this for all these years and still convincing yourself that the Crows still aren't forgiven
AFL has been getting worse and worse officiating wise. Just look at Jeremy Cameron's 2 goals against Collingwood last week. They were not judgment errors and many decisions have been blatantly obvious this season. The AFL likes controlling what happens. $ > fair competition in their eyes
There are hundreds of decisions made in a game and many of them are made wrong. Anyone of them could have affected the game the oither way. They need to simplify the rules, too many 50/50 decisions which causes these issues.
Because you can’t 100% be sure the game would have ended like that. Had it been a goal, there was enough time for the swans to score from the next centre bounce and win so you can’t 100% say Adelaide would have won had that counted, even though it’s obviously quite likely
Because there was still plenty of time for the swans to kick a goal and take the lead. Not saying it would have happened but it’s kind of unfair on the swans to punish them for the umpires mistake. If anything they should call to a draw
A minute is too long to know one way or another, if the kick was after the siren, or maybe like 10 seconds from it, then perhaps, but, as bad as the swans were playing in that last quarter, ya never know
I’m not even an Adelaide supporter but this made me so unimaginably Angry. Adelaide played such a great game to come back from 44 points down! They deserved this win. The fact this absolute potato of a goal ump didn’t review that goal is PATHETIC.
It just goes to show, that there does need to be a player review system in place, quite a number of sports have it these days, with the AFL being a bit behind the times with that, that decision was diabolical, and as a crying Crows supporter once said "they were robbed, right in front of me," this time around that statement not only aged like a fine wine, it is true.
Player review systems, and review systems more generally, tend to work better in stop-start games with definitive breaks in play. And even in cricket, among the sports with most obvious regular discrete breaks (after each delivery), there are multiple problems. Australian Football doesn't have that break on a no-score or behind.
@@TheGreatLordDufus there is still a slight pause after a scoring opportunity after the ball crosses the line, there should still be limits, such as no review between the arcs, but only done within the arcs itself, and if there is an apparent mistake, and each team only gets two reviews per quarter, and even if they get it right, that review is used up.
As a Richmond supporter this an absolute joke the umpire needs to go to spec savers. I know Collingwood beat geelong but Cameron gets away with mark out of bounds an goal an a hand ball which was out of bounds 2 goals not deserved 😡. Umpires should be held accountable fines and back to vfl
Gill said goal umpire heard the ball hit the post and sad part is the CEO was sucked into that comment. The bloody noise was so loud the goal umpire would not have heard a bulldozer hit that post.
Just like in cricket captains should be given the ability to force two maybe three ARC reviews per game and it's then up to the captains to use them as they see fit.
WHAT a coincidence that SYDNEY benefit from this "mistake" that costs Adelaide their season... good work AFL, always going above and beyond to try and sell footy sell tickets in NSW
As a lifetime Swans supporter, I'm 66, the decision against the Crows was not only sad but also obviously incorrect, you have my commiserations! Also cold comfort but I really think your team had the talent to go far in September.
Okay then, with a comment like that then you should be saying that Melbourne ought to have got awarded the 4 points against your mob last week too, because there was inconclusive evidence to suggest that Christian Petracca's kick for goal got touched. Total bias here. I'm sure that you gleefully accepted that decision going in your team's favour.
Maybe if after the siren the ‘point/goal’ was kicked it might make sense. Even so.. would set a bad precedence. (Eg, team complaining an umpire error in first quarter cost them etc..). But, that should have been reviewed on the spot. Shocking it did not.
Shocking. You could tell by the body language from the Swans players that they themselves would've just preferred to have had that decision overturned so they wouldn't have to live with the guilt.
It should have been reviewed (it would have been a goal), and now what the AFL should do is award the win to Adelaide to make up for their admitted error.
Have all of us forgotten that it was only a few years ago that Josh Jenkins hit the post in a showdown match that was awarded a goal by the goal umpire, and Adelaide ended up winning by less than a goal because of that incorrect decision? Adelaide supporters were happy to take the win on that occasion. This is a case of what goes around comes around. Umpires are human, they will make mistakes sometimes, but what we are always told growing up as kids is that the umpire's decision is final and that it's not going to be changed once it's been made. Sometimes you get lucky with these incorrect calls, other times you don't, but usually it evens itself out in the long run. To anyone kicking up a fuss about the Crows being robbed, just remember the Josh Jenkins decision that went their way in the showdown a few years ago. Also remember that there are many moments in 120 minutes of football that cost a team victory, not just one incorrect umpiring decision.
I am not sure if I will watch AFL again. What's the point! .... This game has been ruined by many things. We need a protest to change this result and maybe Adelaide should boycott the 2024 season in protest.
I am not a Crows supporters, but I would support action against the AFL over this, a crowd strike or protest - simply unacceptable and the AFL should make an apology to the Adelaide Crows and their fans.
I don’t agree with the goal umpire being sanctioned for the mistake, he should be counselled about asking the umpires for a review. You can see Blakey’s hand hits the padding just as the ball passes the post. The goal umpire has mistaken the noise of the hand on the pad and the movement of the post as being the ball hitting it. Pretty innocent. But there should be a process for teams to ask for a review in these circumstances. We see it all the time with players claiming to have touched the ball when they clearly haven’t. Reviews of those are based on player protests.
I follow the Bloods and can’t believe that wasn’t a goal. It was a great kick. So many great goals are denied by the AFL’s obsession with “was it touched by a fingernail” etc when the slight touch did not effect the trajectory of the ball at all. Soccer is way ahead of the AFL on this as if it hits the post or another player on the way through it’s still a goal. Takes all the contention out of it …
Can't take away the ball hitting the post as a point mate, that's one of the iconic things about footy, so is the touched behind, think of all the great players like SOS and Archer who rushed back to touch the ball on the line just before it passed through for a goal, it's part of what makes the game what it is
If you allow touched balls to be goals then you have to draw some lines. You'd have to decide if it's only the balls that haven't changed trajectory by being touched and then you'd have to list exactly what that entails and then what? Interpretation. Should a glancing spoil that went through be counted? What about a direct spoil that punched it through? You can see how it gets murky
A Tin of Petrol and a Box of Matches 🔥🔥🔥 Let's be honest I've never liked Liars , Thief's and Cheats - Blind Freddy could see it went through . That's not a Mistake that's Lying .
@@louthelabmonster Enlighten me surely not as Blatantly Obvious as some Crooked Umpire like that -a stick insect can see it clearly - IMO - if the AFL our so called National Game are hiring genuine congenial Idiots that make calls like that then I'm the Pope .
As Cornes said, they review every goal - as occurred when Kelly's last quarter goal in the GWS v Essendon match was overturned yesterday. They even told the field umpire in that case not to recommence play until it had been determined that the ball had grazed the post (with GWS more than 100pts ahead). As is typical of the AFL, the stupidity of their rules allows play to be recommenced from a kick-in after a behind has been adjudicated by the goal umpire - unless a review is requested. Once play has recommenced any scoring issue becomes irrelevant. There is no doubt the Sydney players knew it was a goal and took the kick-in as quickly as possible before the Adelaide players had a chance to object to the call - in which case the field umpire may have called for a review.
The umpires robbed us all year So many games clear free kicks were not paid which gave our opponents the momentum and with 5 games losses by less than a kick to have so many free kicks gifting opponents goals and not being paid to us cost us finals , 1 free kick can change a game , this is not the first time it's happen ....
I think all calls by the goal umpire should be verified by video analysis technology for these high stake games. Very unsettling for fans and clubs when the wrong decision is called. Happened the other week when the umpire called touched on melbourne’s goal v blues
A farce like this is going to happen in September and cost a team their season literally. I can only hope and pray that it doesn't happen to my team, but it probably will. It is now at the point where every possible goal needs to be reviewed even if it holds up play by 30 seconds. We can't have these types of results. It impacts so many people in so many different ways.
Worst umpiring decision is hands down the Tom Hawkins goal that literally bounced off the post in the 09 Grand Final. For a match with that higher stakes and closeness to have that error is a disgrace. The Saints could argue they lost the flag over that!
I’m a Cats fan. Then to even it up, Riewoldt got a free free and then a free 50m penalty to kick a goal. I didn’t care that the umpires actually gave St.Kilda a free goal to compensate. It was pretty obvious.
All this huff and puff about how to fix this from ever happening again - the answer is right under your noses. How can you not see it? If a ball hits the post and goes in, goal. Goes out onto the ground, play on. Goes in the point section of the goals, 1 point. Goes out, throw in. just because this is used and works in other sports, doesn't mean it mustn't be used in this 1 sport. Wake up to yourselves AFL and end this ridiculous rule. Rugby and soccer woke up to it over a century ago!
Sadly this will deny the Crows a premiership. Their road form was exceptional with 7 straight road losses to Geelong, Western Bulldogs, Gold Coast, Collingwood, Essendon, Melbourne and Brisbane
Why can't the AFL follow the SANFL umpires who were hats with cameras ? The umpire ducked at the same time that the players jumped and quite possibly blocked his vision for the critical second. The camera's on the umpires have great vision and would certainly be a positive addition to the technology.
Absolutely pathetic by the AFL to not overturn the result. I know there was 70 seconds left, and an argument can be made that Sydney could have scored, but look at the context of the game, Swans had scored 1 point in the qtr and Crows had all the momentum. Enough with the "oopsie, we messed up" it was the second time this season and it's not good enough
Other sports have this, they go back and check every call to see if a score was made or not. LITERALLY EVERY OTHER SPORT. Soccer can take away goals 10min after the fact, basketball can take away points after the fact. But AFL is so primitive it can't comprehend that technology is superior to human eyes
The Crows must take it to the Supreme Court and the umpire’s family and friends gambling accounts must be investigated. It’s not just Cricket that has corrupt gambling issues.
@@silverslave333 Geelong and other teams that were knocked out because of this must join the Adelaide Crows to formally protest this decision and if unsuccessful go to the Supreme Court for adjudication.
Gotta feel sorry for the crows. Smashed port twice, lost the pies by under a kick twice, smashed Brisbane at home and lost by a goal at the Gabba. It’s gotta be a hard pill to swallow this year.
They need a couple of adjudicators sitting in front of multiple video screens who are able to review contentious incidents to stop these sort of decisions ruining matches and entire seasons, because umpires on the field are influenced by external factors and sometimes make rushed decisions.
I guess that game finally highlights there is clearly umpire bias. Perhaps unconscious bias, but bias nonetheless. I think it’s in everyone’s interest we accept this is happening and pull together to get it out of the game. Robbed is not what happened, but robbed is how it felt. That’s our slice of truth from this side of the border. Getting hard to watch the game each week and I love this game. Sad!
The Crows are consistently gifted the football when they play in Adelaide. Yes, this one time went against that trend, but I wouldn’t be carrying on about umpires’ form at Adelaide Oval 😂
Not to mention the AFLney Swans player holding the post.. are they allowed to do that.. I guess they play for AFLney so just like Rampe is allowed to climb the post & shake it, they are allowed to do what they want
I thought all goals get reviewed anyway. When you have no head of football to address the farcical umpiring this year, this outcome is no surprise. Not a Crows supporter either.
Adelaide V Sydney. The AFL should make the recent game 'VOID' as concrete evidence proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the final score was incorrect. The AFL cannot award Sydney or Adelaide any points. The game as It stands is VOID! Incomplete! Thus the AFL out of basic common sense must do one of three things. Award the win to Adelaide OR arrange an Adelaide V Sydney replay prior to the finals. The outcome will effect other clubs too. Or replay 1.11 minutes with the corrected score Adelaide 11 12 78 to Sydney 11 8 74. The 1.11 minute game would commence with a centre bounce. It could be played at the end of another AFL game say Hawthorn v Melbourne? I think a complete rematch would be better. If both clubs agree. One of the above solutions would make a good precedent if this sort of thing happens again. It can't be left as it is. That would be unjust. Agree? This is a concern for all clubs as it could happen to any club. What if Adelaide went on to win the premiership? It's possible.
I reckon they would have knocked out Carlton before losing to Melbourne. But a finals appearance would have been good for the club's future ahead. Instead they have started 2024 unmotivated. The Crows do not handle adversity very well.
How can an Umpire standing on the Boundary Line NOT see Dangerfield mark the ball Outside the Line, and that was just one of MANY......the Umpiring has been disgraceful.
TJ once again proving he doesn't know what's he talking about. Last week he said to get rid of reviews & this week he's blaming technology! Have to feel for the goal umpire. In the heat of the moment he didn't seem to be in any doubt & was confident in not reviewing it. Obviously it looks like he was wrong but with commentators constantly whinging about goal reviews & how much time is wasted & everyone giving their 2 cents to get on with it (I'm looking at you BT), the poor kid wilted under pressure. On a side note, the swans should be embarrassed they're in the 8. They've been gifted 2 wins this year from controversial umpiring decisions late in games (this plus the North interchange blunder)
How can you say you feel for the goal umpire? You’re the problem…. He can easily review it and take it out of his hands. Over this pathetic sympathy crap
On what basis is the game result still standing? Is there exposure to the punters who would have otherwise walked away with a mozza? Hell of a hollow victory to Sydney (and I'm from Sydney).
Goal umpire should never umpire again.... the goal review is there to assist them make their decision... its black and white. If you are 100% sure that the ball hit the post... then you're not good enough to be umpiring at any level, if you're not sure, review it. By the way Lordo, correct score for the Crows in the last quarter was 5.7... if Ray Charles wasn't umpiring at the hill end
I’m a Eagles guy, I like the Swannies and nothing against the Crows but I got to tell you that this was the biggest robbing of all time (to pies fans… stop bringing up saltiness over Sheed 2018 lol kidding). My fellow swans supporter mate even said “I’m bias so I’ll take the 4 points, but we got away with murder there… it’s an absolute disgrace that should never happened again”. I think there should unanimous outrage across the board from all fans over the AFL over this… I give my absolute sympathy from the bottom of my heart to Crows fans today. This was a royal kick in the nuts
Every time I've seen a goal review on TV, it was demanded by a field umpire. There are 4 of them out there, yet all of the blame has gone to the goal umpire who has become the sacrificial lamb. In recent weeks, there have also been bungles by the review umpires. In one case, the ball glanced the padding at the back of the goal post after it had completely crossed the line. These guys don't have any understanding that the padding is a lot broader than the line.
WHEN WHEN WHEN is the AFL bring in a law that s a GOAL even if it touches the post as long as it goes in the GOAL AREA like Rugby League Soccer all Other SPORTS Hitting The Post Which Ever Way It Goes Goal Or Behind Adelaide Should PROTEST
The money the AFL has how do they not have hotspot and actual super slo mo hd cameras....like seriously its just aughable and feel sorry for Crows....Swans alway get the rub of the green in close games....
Once again AFL management has failed to take accountability for such a farce but rather pass the buck and blame "human error". The little guy is once again made the scapegoat. The necessary rules and systems need to be put in place to deal with such scenarios. This is the responsibility of management.
I am a Port supporter but the Crows are my second team as I am a proud Croweater and I would have loved too see both our teams in the finals, this is an absolute disgrace and has ruined the top 8 as it could effect other teams chances. Just another example of our teams being treated unfairly by these umpires none of which are South Australian even though this is meant to be a national competition? Totally gutted for the team what a comeback but you will make top 8 next year as you have shown a lot of improvement. Shame on you AFL, least you can do now is compensate the club?
Every close call on goals or inside 50 free kicks should be reviewed with VAR, just like they do in soccer. I think most fans would be willing to wear the trade-off of slowing down the game occasionally. ( * What is the VAR in football? A video assistant referee (VAR) is a match official, with independent access to match footage, who may assist the referee only in the event of a 'clear and obvious error' or 'serious missed incident' in relation to: a. Goal/no goal. b. Penalty/no penalty.)
Bad umpiring happens all the time throughout the game. It’s about time that the VAR video assisted referee be applied to anything in the 50 zone. That was one mistake on a goal. But throughout the games there are half dozen free goals given away by pathetic umpiring. Yet, a team up the other end doesn’t get same freebies.
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The fact that this one was not reviewed with the game on the line while one for GWS was reviewed when they were 20 goals in front is just pathetic
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Well said my man and it will be the decider in at least one finals game. Mark my words.
yea they legit had the mindset of the fact that every point mattered, it can affect gws' percentage that actually is super important right now. so it was good to review, this one was even more important than that being both teams finals hopes, the result gets flipped then all of a sudden swans, essendon,crows and even geelong are all back in finals contention
There's always a silent review after a goal has been kicked, don't know why it didn't go back.
@@Reexyscause it was signalled a behind.
Worst season of umpiring? Shocking the last 5 weeks.
Yep! It has been awful all year regardless of this decision.
Cats 4 frees to saints 20 last night. The non stop curnow bullcrap frees,noone else gets. This sport is corrupt
@@seanblack5789 You're right, should've been about 4 cats frees to 30 saints. Everyone knows the cats are dirty dogs, they're finally not getting away with it anymore.
Sydney were on their knees, resigned to saving the game. In the wet, it was very unlikely they would have won if the goal stood.
With West Coast to come for Adelaide and Sydney playing Melbourne, GWS playing Carlton and Dogs playing Geelong, good chance Adelaide scrape into 8th.
Absolute disgrace. They review goals, WHY not points? Makes no sense. That goal umpire is a four eyed disgrace, but the whole system is f*cked.
Not enough Umpires, we need 8 goal Umpires and 36 Field Umpires. A goal Umpire for every post and an Umpire for every player. LMAO. To think back in the 70's there was just one field umpire and two boundary umpires.
This was absolutely shocking, and I support Hawthorn. I don't think the fans can let the AFL move on from this. We need to remind them about it constantly from now on until something changes.
No I'd allege this is probably match fixing
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i feel like you have trouble letting things go in general. like getting bullied in primary school and being rejected by every woman you've ever met
@@OlChamberGenius sounds like projection to me
@@OlChamberGenius Your comment really says a bit too much about your own life and personality
You must be blind the ball hit the post
The fact it was not reviewed is criminal, fair enough the umpire called it a point as it was clearly very close but not reviewing it is insane. sure there was still a minute left and sydney could have won anyway but not giving the crows a chance is so bad
Correct yet everyone is blaming the goal umpire for this, this sits with the field umpire for not reviewing
it is basically further evidence, why there should be a player review system in place.
The counter-argument is that if those get reviewed throughout the season, and are correct 999 times out of a thousand, the team taking the kick-in can be disadvantaged for no reason because they have to wait to take the kick out and any open player won't be open any more.
The timing on this error is unfortunate for sure, but so often fixing one thing because of a one-off leads to other more regular problems which could easily result in other teams missing finals off the back of them.
@@TheGreatLordDufus but when there is about a minute left in the game and the decision pretty much will dictate the winner plus have huge implications on half a dozen teams making the finals then without doubt you have to review the call
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David Rodan would've never made this mistake.
Im not sure if this is sarcasrm, but he literally almost did on the last kick of the Geelong v Collingwood match lol
Or Chelsea …
I dont even understand this comment, congrats on knowing the only famous goal umpire cos he is a former player? Not like he is a notoriously good umpire
@@Downpaymentblues it's clear he signals a behind then raises his arms for touched then signals a goal. What were you watching
I hate it when he awards a goal against, or a point for Richmond (with a smile) the bloody traitor. He got his premiership ay, but not three. Hahahaha!
Just when you think the umpiring can’t get any worse it does. The game is in disarray with ridiculous rule changes and bad umpiring
not going 'upstairs' was 100x worse than the original error !!!
As a swans supporter, I feel awful, should have at least reviewed it. not in the spirit of the game
Cheers Jack nice gesture , worst bit is that clown Gillon Bobo the Clown fronting up with that INSIPID look , made it worse
Even an Eagles fan I like the Swannies (even with that 171 point PTSD I went through), but you guys seriously have got to count your blessings
*I think Swans are most popular team in AFL from neutral fans (when their team isn’t playing)
*won against the Roos, controversial interchange free kick & 50
*won over the Crows by an error
Outside a few exceptions earlier this season (Port touching one on the siren), jesus you guys have been lucky this year!! 😂… I am not taking anything away from you guys (Swans deserve to be where they are), but man I would be pinching myself if I was from Sydney.
Also we secured a finals for you guys and Saints by upsetting the doggies yesterday, but Eagles are not beloved at all from neutrals 😂.
Given the goal umpires can’t make a decision without it being confirmed by the central umpire why should the field umpire not be held accountable too.
Because the field umpire is not responsible for the score. The field umpire does not need to confirm the goal umpires decision as such and can be overruled by the goal umpire.
Goal umpires CAN make a decision without it being confirmed by the central umpire. Back in the day, central umpires would use 'soft signals' to indicate their preference. When calling out all clear, two hands to the mouth would mean 'I think it's a goal', one hand would mean 'I think it's a point''...and hands behind the back would mean 'I don't know, I cant help you' [which in modern AFL, would mean 'how about we have a look at the video'.
The field umpires giving an 'all clear' is just about confirming to the goal umpire that there are no free kicks and they can wave the score. Goal umpire is completely responsible for determining if/when the ball crosses the goal/behind line or hits the post.
Well they are still confirming it, so they can start providing additional support for these close calls. Let me also respond to you all that we have 10 umpires on the field of play at any one time.
This decision may genuinely cost 3 teams their chance at finals, unreal how bad umpiring is
That's ridiculous. One incorrect umpiring decision doesn't cost a team their finals position when there are many moments in 23 other rounds of the season that contribute to teams not making the finals. Play better for longer, and you won't miss the finals or put yourself in a position to do so.
@@darrenmiles-morland8038False dichotomy.
@@darrenmiles-morland8038 it can, and probably has for one of the few teams affected. It's a tight competition this year.
@@AP-ow5vu It appears you've learned a new term but not yet how to apply it properly.
Not to mention it compromised tipping competitions around Australia
The AFL rules committee should give teams a right to challenge the goal umpire's decision, for video review, like in tennis and cricket. In this case, Adelaide would of had a right to challenge the wrong call by the goal umpire. Because field and goal umpires make mistakes. This mistake is going to cost Adelaide a chance to make the finals. If teams can challenge goal umpiring decisions, this can correct crucial mistakes in all games. Also need a better video review system.
Same in the EPL - teams can challenge the Ref about a goal or infringement within the box.
its not even just adelaide, that one call locked out essendon and geelong aswell, all 3 of those teams can make it if the results favour them if that game went to adelaide, essendon would need sydney,dogs to lose and win their game, geelong can if they beat the dogs and essendon,sydney and adelaide lose, aswell as adelaide if essendon, sydney and the dogs lose and with the way the year is going literally all of those hypotheticals are possible
This has killed off the suspense of the final round. It is either the Western bulldogs or GWS for the 8th spot.
Just have have umpires reviewing all behinds and goals then u don’t need to challenge
We said exactly the same thing teams should be able to challenge a call for goal like the tennis or Rugby. Instead if a player challenges an umpire it’s called a dissent rule and the opposition is awarded a free kick. Go figure.
That goal umpire guessed! He was unsighted as 2 Sydney players jumped up trying to touch the ball in front of him. You can see the goal ump go lower. He did not see the ball. He guessed. Field ump should be sacked as well.
I agree. He really wasn't in the best position by the time the ball passed. On that basis alone, there should have been a review.
not going 'upstairs' was 100x worse than the original error !!!
AFL administrators once again Pass the Buck" this has been going on for months as highlighted by Matty last week, AFL should pay Adelaide compensation for poss. finals miss. The only way officials will improve system is for them to pay a penalty
yep
Imagine if this happened in a grand final, would the AFL also say "opsie, better luck next time"
They would. Collingwood has lost grannies numerous times from the umpires. 2002 Rocca kicked a goal in the last minutes and the umpires said it was a point
They absolutely would because Gillan McLachlan and Andrew Dillon are the two biggest fence sitters to ever run the AFL
This is the crows second lose from terrible umpiring. They also cost the crows a free kick against Collingwood to Dawson in the dying seconds. Maybe he doesn’t kick the goal but now 8 premiership points lost due to the afl. No wonder more and more people feel the game is bias and corrupt. My need to find a nrl team to follow.
yes it does looked rigged ... Do they think we dont notice ?
@@silverslave333 I am not sure they care. Tickets keep selling so they will keep on keeping on. Wouldn’t be half surprised to see a wanted top 8 in afl hq at the start of each season.
@whatthe3131 sadly I remember that as well. Isn’t just Adelaide it happens to either. Suspect you look back at most interstate team and they would all have multiple monomers like that. Just to remind us that it’s the vfl we are just lucky to be able to play.
NRL have reviews but still let go forward passes.
Not to mentions the crows game against Melbourne, that game had terrible umpiring
I'm a Swans fan through and through and it's hard to understand how this could have happened. Sorry Crows fans, it was a magnificent comeback and should have been recorded as a successful one.
Crows 5 yes 👍🏻
You guys lost today and should be out of the finals, but this is nothing more than a shrug of the shoulders kind of incident for the AFL.
They use the tech in the Demons v Carlton game last week and get it wrong. They don't use the tech here and get it wrong. The league keeps embarrassing themselves and the last thing we need for the game is umpiring pile ons cause it cascades to junior levels.
Absolute disgrace, Crows have been robbed of a finals birth, AFL cant fix that Poor umpiring and poor commentary on Umpires all season again
And were Fitzroy also robbed of a victory against the Crows at Football Park in 1991 because the Crows got the rub of the green in the final 2 minutes of the match, receiving a succession of controversial free kicks? What short memories we've got. Or perhaps you hadn't been born yet in 1991.
@@darrenmiles-morland8038 Not sure how that game is relevant to this
The crows and whoever takes their place are bowing out week one of finals anyways
@@darrenmiles-morland8038 Are you really bringing up a game that happened 32 years ago to suggest this is karma? What an absolute joke of a comment. I can imagine you've been saying this for all these years and still convincing yourself that the Crows still aren't forgiven
Absolutely the crows were robbed, right INFRONT of me😢 right INFRONT of me
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AFL has been getting worse and worse officiating wise. Just look at Jeremy Cameron's 2 goals against Collingwood last week. They were not judgment errors and many decisions have been blatantly obvious this season. The AFL likes controlling what happens. $ > fair competition in their eyes
I still don’t understand why the result can’t be changed knowing the mistake cost the crowd a finals birth
Exactly ! Swans should had the win to the Crows. Anything else is just wrong ! I seriously think its rigged
There are hundreds of decisions made in a game and many of them are made wrong. Anyone of them could have affected the game the oither way. They need to simplify the rules, too many 50/50 decisions which causes these issues.
Because you can’t 100% be sure the game would have ended like that. Had it been a goal, there was enough time for the swans to score from the next centre bounce and win so you can’t 100% say Adelaide would have won had that counted, even though it’s obviously quite likely
Because there was still plenty of time for the swans to kick a goal and take the lead. Not saying it would have happened but it’s kind of unfair on the swans to punish them for the umpires mistake. If anything they should call to a draw
A minute is too long to know one way or another, if the kick was after the siren, or maybe like 10 seconds from it, then perhaps, but, as bad as the swans were playing in that last quarter, ya never know
I’m not even an Adelaide supporter but this made me so unimaginably Angry. Adelaide played such a great game to come back from 44 points down! They deserved this win. The fact this absolute potato of a goal ump didn’t review that goal is PATHETIC.
It just goes to show, that there does need to be a player review system in place, quite a number of sports have it these days, with the AFL being a bit behind the times with that, that decision was diabolical, and as a crying Crows supporter once said "they were robbed, right in front of me," this time around that statement not only aged like a fine wine, it is true.
Player review systems, and review systems more generally, tend to work better in stop-start games with definitive breaks in play. And even in cricket, among the sports with most obvious regular discrete breaks (after each delivery), there are multiple problems. Australian Football doesn't have that break on a no-score or behind.
@@TheGreatLordDufus there is still a slight pause after a scoring opportunity after the ball crosses the line, there should still be limits, such as no review between the arcs, but only done within the arcs itself, and if there is an apparent mistake, and each team only gets two reviews per quarter, and even if they get it right, that review is used up.
As a Richmond supporter this an absolute joke the umpire needs to go to spec savers. I know Collingwood beat geelong but Cameron gets away with mark out of bounds an goal an a hand ball which was out of bounds 2 goals not deserved 😡. Umpires should be held accountable fines and back to vfl
He’s already a four eyes. The irony.. 🤣🤡🤦♂️
Someone's pockets would be loaded with cash
@@cbgg1585 😎🤣
Gill said goal umpire heard the ball hit the post and sad part is the CEO was sucked into that comment. The bloody noise was so loud the goal umpire would not have heard a bulldozer hit that post.
Just like in cricket captains should be given the ability to force two maybe three ARC reviews per game and it's then up to the captains to use them as they see fit.
WHAT a coincidence that SYDNEY benefit from this "mistake" that costs Adelaide their season... good work AFL, always going above and beyond to try and sell footy sell tickets in NSW
exactly
Nice conspiracy theory.
Goal umpire thought it hit the post.
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Gran conspiracy involving all the umpires to ensure Sydney win.
@@thechemistamvs5033I'm with Muffin Masher's theory buddy.
We know how it all works...
Spot on muffin masher! I like the way you think.
@@michaelobrien1779 You're tripping balls man xD
Didn't just rob the Crows, also ruins the Giants chances of playing finals
AFL played themselves!
That's not true, the giants can't not make finals at this point actually
@@jonniezodiac it was true when I wrote it. Who knew the Dogs would blow it V the Eagles
@@shepherdswithswords oh true aye, didn't see the time
@@jonniezodiac Incorrect, if Dogs beat Geelong and Carlton beat GWS, Dogs would finish 8th and GWS 9th by a few percentage points.
As a lifetime Swans supporter, I'm 66, the decision against the Crows was not only sad but also obviously incorrect, you have my commiserations! Also cold comfort but I really think your team had the talent to go far in September.
As a blues fan they need to give the crows 4 points
All on gil if someone gets hurt ...can't hide gilligan
Hit the post mate 1 point ☝️
Okay then, with a comment like that then you should be saying that Melbourne ought to have got awarded the 4 points against your mob last week too, because there was inconclusive evidence to suggest that Christian Petracca's kick for goal got touched. Total bias here. I'm sure that you gleefully accepted that decision going in your team's favour.
It was touched mate, get over it@@darrenmiles-morland8038
Maybe if after the siren the ‘point/goal’ was kicked it might make sense. Even so.. would set a bad precedence. (Eg, team complaining an umpire error in first quarter cost them etc..).
But, that should have been reviewed on the spot. Shocking it did not.
Shocking. You could tell by the body language from the Swans players that they themselves would've just preferred to have had that decision overturned so they wouldn't have to live with the guilt.
There was no reason why that should not have been reviewed, players should be able to call for video review. The result should be overturned.
It should have been reviewed (it would have been a goal), and now what the AFL should do is award the win to Adelaide to make up for their admitted error.
Have all of us forgotten that it was only a few years ago that Josh Jenkins hit the post in a showdown match that was awarded a goal by the goal umpire, and Adelaide ended up winning by less than a goal because of that incorrect decision? Adelaide supporters were happy to take the win on that occasion. This is a case of what goes around comes around. Umpires are human, they will make mistakes sometimes, but what we are always told growing up as kids is that the umpire's decision is final and that it's not going to be changed once it's been made. Sometimes you get lucky with these incorrect calls, other times you don't, but usually it evens itself out in the long run. To anyone kicking up a fuss about the Crows being robbed, just remember the Josh Jenkins decision that went their way in the showdown a few years ago. Also remember that there are many moments in 120 minutes of football that cost a team victory, not just one incorrect umpiring decision.
That so called point was reviewed.
I am not sure if I will watch AFL again. What's the point! .... This game has been ruined by many things. We need a protest to change this result and maybe Adelaide should boycott the 2024 season in protest.
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Big issue too say it was a clear point that crows would have zoned up, and not allowed to swans to take the ball away so easily
I’m never one to complain about the umpiring, but I’ve never, ever, seen an umpiring season as bad as season 2023, something needs to change
What a surprise a controversial call goes Sydney way...
Of course afl own Sydney I'm sure
I am not a Crows supporters, but I would support action against the AFL over this, a crowd strike or protest - simply unacceptable and the AFL should make an apology to the Adelaide Crows and their fans.
I don’t agree with the goal umpire being sanctioned for the mistake, he should be counselled about asking the umpires for a review. You can see Blakey’s hand hits the padding just as the ball passes the post. The goal umpire has mistaken the noise of the hand on the pad and the movement of the post as being the ball hitting it. Pretty innocent. But there should be a process for teams to ask for a review in these circumstances. We see it all the time with players claiming to have touched the ball when they clearly haven’t. Reviews of those are based on player protests.
Is there a chance of getting a coach challenge for cases like this
nothing brings the game into more disrepute than this!
This was a perfect outcome cause I’d rather play Sydney in finals then the crows
I follow the Bloods and can’t believe that wasn’t a goal. It was a great kick. So many great goals are denied by the AFL’s obsession with “was it touched by a fingernail” etc when the slight touch did not effect the trajectory of the ball at all. Soccer is way ahead of the AFL on this as if it hits the post or another player on the way through it’s still a goal. Takes all the contention out of it …
Can't take away the ball hitting the post as a point mate, that's one of the iconic things about footy, so is the touched behind, think of all the great players like SOS and Archer who rushed back to touch the ball on the line just before it passed through for a goal, it's part of what makes the game what it is
If you allow touched balls to be goals then you have to draw some lines. You'd have to decide if it's only the balls that haven't changed trajectory by being touched and then you'd have to list exactly what that entails and then what? Interpretation.
Should a glancing spoil that went through be counted? What about a direct spoil that punched it through? You can see how it gets murky
I've been thinking this for a long time. I 100% agree
A Tin of Petrol and a Box of Matches 🔥🔥🔥 Let's be honest I've never liked Liars , Thief's and Cheats - Blind Freddy could see it went through . That's not a Mistake that's Lying .
Facts just look at the Geelong Collingwood fiasco last week
@@louthelabmonster Enlighten me surely not as Blatantly Obvious as some Crooked Umpire like that -a stick insect can see it clearly - IMO - if the AFL our so called National Game are hiring genuine congenial Idiots that make calls like that then I'm the Pope .
As Cornes said, they review every goal - as occurred when Kelly's last quarter goal in the GWS v Essendon match was overturned yesterday. They even told the field umpire in that case not to recommence play until it had been determined that the ball had grazed the post (with GWS more than 100pts ahead).
As is typical of the AFL, the stupidity of their rules allows play to be recommenced from a kick-in after a behind has been adjudicated by the goal umpire - unless a review is requested. Once play has recommenced any scoring issue becomes irrelevant.
There is no doubt the Sydney players knew it was a goal and took the kick-in as quickly as possible before the Adelaide players had a chance to object to the call - in which case the field umpire may have called for a review.
Swans supporter here, we got away with this, it was a goal. And now we are finals bound.
Remember the obvious/bad calls during the geelong v pies game? Why is the WAFL doin the “stop umpire abuse” when they keep doin this?
The umpires robbed us all year
So many games clear free kicks were not paid which gave our opponents the momentum and with 5 games losses by less than a kick to have so many free kicks gifting opponents goals and not being paid to us cost us finals , 1 free kick can change a game , this is not the first time it's happen ....
The games corrupt i hate to say it..
The AFL says every goal is reviewed before we get back to the centre bounce. Do they need to start reviewing every behind as well?
I think all calls by the goal umpire should be verified by video analysis technology for these high stake games. Very unsettling for fans and clubs when the wrong decision is called. Happened the other week when the umpire called touched on melbourne’s goal v blues
Good on TJ for calming down the pile on on the goal umpire, probs already copped enough death threats.
RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME
A farce like this is going to happen in September and cost a team their season literally. I can only hope and pray that it doesn't happen to my team, but it probably will. It is now at the point where every possible goal needs to be reviewed even if it holds up play by 30 seconds. We can't have these types of results. It impacts so many people in so many different ways.
Taking into account the win against north Melbourne as well, Sydney are frauds to make finals this year
Worst umpiring decision is hands down the Tom Hawkins goal that literally bounced off the post in the 09 Grand Final.
For a match with that higher stakes and closeness to have that error is a disgrace. The Saints could argue they lost the flag over that!
I’m a Cats fan. Then to even it up, Riewoldt got a free free and then a free 50m penalty to kick a goal. I didn’t care that the umpires actually gave St.Kilda a free goal to compensate. It was pretty obvious.
All this huff and puff about how to fix this from ever happening again - the answer is right under your noses. How can you not see it? If a ball hits the post and goes in, goal. Goes out onto the ground, play on. Goes in the point section of the goals, 1 point. Goes out, throw in. just because this is used and works in other sports, doesn't mean it mustn't be used in this 1 sport. Wake up to yourselves AFL and end this ridiculous rule. Rugby and soccer woke up to it over a century ago!
Why wasn’t it checked immediately after the score?
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Sadly this will deny the Crows a premiership. Their road form was exceptional with 7 straight road losses to Geelong, Western Bulldogs, Gold Coast, Collingwood, Essendon, Melbourne and Brisbane
Why can't the AFL follow the SANFL umpires who were hats with cameras ? The umpire ducked at the same time that the players jumped and quite possibly blocked his vision for the critical second. The camera's on the umpires have great vision and would certainly be a positive addition to the technology.
Absolutely pathetic by the AFL to not overturn the result. I know there was 70 seconds left, and an argument can be made that Sydney could have scored, but look at the context of the game, Swans had scored 1 point in the qtr and Crows had all the momentum. Enough with the "oopsie, we messed up" it was the second time this season and it's not good enough
Lets go back to Geelong hitting the post in the GF against St Kilda and that being called a goal.
Thats 100% a bigger mistake than this.
And Collingwood hit the post in 2011gf.
Other sports have this, they go back and check every call to see if a score was made or not.
LITERALLY EVERY OTHER SPORT.
Soccer can take away goals 10min after the fact, basketball can take away points after the fact.
But AFL is so primitive it can't comprehend that technology is superior to human eyes
This non decision has robbed the Crows of their destiny. Absolutely unforgivable . AFL hold your head in shame.
The Crows must take it to the Supreme Court and the umpire’s family and friends gambling accounts must be investigated. It’s not just Cricket that has corrupt gambling issues.
YES ! something shady definitely going on here
@@silverslave333 Geelong and other teams that were knocked out because of this must join the Adelaide Crows to formally protest this decision and if unsuccessful go to the Supreme Court for adjudication.
@@kaus3587 I agree, Something more has to be done. for real. Otherwise the AFL will lose in the end as it looks way to suspicious
Check the gambling
Even the fans are up. Celebrating because they know it has gone threw !!
Through, not threw. ( Courtesy of the spelling police.)
@@arnolddavies6734calm down 😂
Gotta feel sorry for the crows. Smashed port twice, lost the pies by under a kick twice, smashed Brisbane at home and lost by a goal at the Gabba. It’s gotta be a hard pill to swallow this year.
if they really deserved to be in the finals it wouldnt be down to a single goal
They need a couple of adjudicators sitting in front of multiple video screens who are able to review contentious incidents to stop these sort of decisions ruining matches and entire seasons, because umpires on the field are influenced by external factors and sometimes make rushed decisions.
That's typical of the AFL, they screw up all the time and this is an absolute shocker.
Goal umpire needs to be investigated.
Why can't the players call for a referral? Why is it left up to the umpires?
Even as a port fan, thats a goal 100%. Regardless of who you support, the fact is that that is unacceptable.
The Crows were robbed by the field umpires long before that decision. A pattern that's becoming all too familiar.
The crows also got robbed in their second match against Collingwood as well. Hard to believe there is no bias in the afl when it keeps happening.
@@matthewrowell8518how were you robbed in that game?
I guess that game finally highlights there is clearly umpire bias. Perhaps unconscious bias, but bias nonetheless. I think it’s in everyone’s interest we accept this is happening and pull together to get it out of the game. Robbed is not what happened, but robbed is how it felt. That’s our slice of truth from this side of the border. Getting hard to watch the game each week and I love this game. Sad!
The Crows are consistently gifted the football when they play in Adelaide.
Yes, this one time went against that trend, but I wouldn’t be carrying on about umpires’ form at Adelaide Oval 😂
Crows and Port have both being getting screwed all year by the umpires, check the stats and both teams cop it the most
Not to mention the AFLney Swans player holding the post.. are they allowed to do that.. I guess they play for AFLney so just like Rampe is allowed to climb the post & shake it, they are allowed to do what they want
As much as we all hate rule changes.. we absolutely need a captains call review rule
The Umpire shoulda gone to SpecSavers.
I thought all goals get reviewed anyway. When you have no head of football to address the farcical umpiring this year, this outcome is no surprise. Not a Crows supporter either.
All goals get reviewed, but this was never called a goal and therefore not reviewed.
Ridiculous and embarrassing. The umpire was right there.
Adelaide V Sydney. The AFL should make the recent game 'VOID' as concrete evidence proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the final score was incorrect.
The AFL cannot award Sydney or Adelaide any points. The game as It stands is VOID! Incomplete!
Thus the AFL out of basic common sense must do one of three things. Award the win to Adelaide OR arrange an Adelaide V Sydney replay prior to the finals. The outcome will effect other clubs too. Or replay 1.11 minutes with the corrected score Adelaide 11 12 78 to Sydney 11 8 74. The 1.11 minute game would commence with a centre bounce. It could be played at the end of another AFL game say Hawthorn v Melbourne?
I think a complete rematch would be better. If both clubs agree. One of the above solutions would make a good precedent if this sort of thing happens again.
It can't be left as it is. That would be unjust. Agree? This is a concern for all clubs as it could happen to any club. What if Adelaide went on to win the premiership? It's possible.
I reckon they would have knocked out Carlton before losing to Melbourne. But a finals appearance would have been good for the club's future ahead. Instead they have started 2024 unmotivated. The Crows do not handle adversity very well.
How can an Umpire standing on the Boundary Line NOT see Dangerfield mark the ball Outside the Line, and that was just one of MANY......the Umpiring has been disgraceful.
the afl will not take responsibility. They will back the umpire and tell the fans that they are blind. This sport is a joke at the moment.
They did take responsibility, they said it was a mistake and the goal umpire has been sanctioned.
they had already taken responsibility before you even pushed enter on the comment
@@tubester4567 They also need to reverse the result and give the win to Adelaide. That would be really taking responsibility.
@@dentonyoung4314 No point. Adelaide would have lost the first final.
TJ once again proving he doesn't know what's he talking about. Last week he said to get rid of reviews & this week he's blaming technology! Have to feel for the goal umpire. In the heat of the moment he didn't seem to be in any doubt & was confident in not reviewing it. Obviously it looks like he was wrong but with commentators constantly whinging about goal reviews & how much time is wasted & everyone giving their 2 cents to get on with it (I'm looking at you BT), the poor kid wilted under pressure.
On a side note, the swans should be embarrassed they're in the 8. They've been gifted 2 wins this year from controversial umpiring decisions late in games (this plus the North interchange blunder)
How can you say you feel for the goal umpire? You’re the problem…. He can easily review it and take it out of his hands. Over this pathetic sympathy crap
Nothing controversial about North not following the rules.
i just dropped an absolute whopper poop in taco bell a real drain blocker
I thought every goal/point was automatically reviewed irrespective of whether it was referred?
every goal
Sickening decision and hopefully a trigger for a process change.
On what basis is the game result still standing? Is there exposure to the punters who would have otherwise walked away with a mozza? Hell of a hollow victory to Sydney (and I'm from Sydney).
Goal umpire should never umpire again.... the goal review is there to assist them make their decision... its black and white. If you are 100% sure that the ball hit the post... then you're not good enough to be umpiring at any level, if you're not sure, review it. By the way Lordo, correct score for the Crows in the last quarter was 5.7... if Ray Charles wasn't umpiring at the hill end
I’m a Eagles guy, I like the Swannies and nothing against the Crows but I got to tell you that this was the biggest robbing of all time (to pies fans… stop bringing up saltiness over Sheed 2018 lol kidding). My fellow swans supporter mate even said “I’m bias so I’ll take the 4 points, but we got away with murder there… it’s an absolute disgrace that should never happened again”.
I think there should unanimous outrage across the board from all fans over the AFL over this… I give my absolute sympathy from the bottom of my heart to Crows fans today. This was a royal kick in the nuts
Every time I've seen a goal review on TV, it was demanded by a field umpire. There are 4 of them out there, yet all of the blame has gone to the goal umpire who has become the sacrificial lamb. In recent weeks, there have also been bungles by the review umpires. In one case, the ball glanced the padding at the back of the goal post after it had completely crossed the line. These guys don't have any understanding that the padding is a lot broader than the line.
I thought that every goal is reviewed regardless of what the goal umpire ruled, whilst the ball is being sent back to the centre bounce.
WHEN WHEN WHEN is the AFL bring in a law that s a GOAL even if it touches the post as long as it goes in the GOAL AREA like Rugby League Soccer all Other SPORTS Hitting The Post Which Ever Way It Goes Goal Or Behind Adelaide Should PROTEST
The money the AFL has how do they not have hotspot and actual super slo mo hd cameras....like seriously its just aughable and feel sorry for Crows....Swans alway get the rub of the green in close games....
Once again AFL management has failed to take accountability for such a farce but rather pass the buck and blame "human error". The little guy is once again made the scapegoat. The necessary rules and systems need to be put in place to deal with such scenarios. This is the responsibility of management.
Why is it just the goal umpire just stood down??? Surely the other umpires and ones who control the video review system should be held accountable too
An absolute disgrace
Season ending
It was a Goal
I am a Port supporter but the Crows are my second team as I am a proud Croweater and I would have loved too see both our teams in the finals, this is an absolute disgrace and has ruined the top 8 as it could effect other teams chances. Just another example of our teams being treated unfairly by these umpires none of which are South Australian even though this is meant to be a national competition? Totally gutted for the team what a comeback but you will make top 8 next year as you have shown a lot of improvement. Shame on you AFL, least you can do now is compensate the club?
Wait till it costs someone a Grand Final.
Can't hide gill.
Why can't we have 2 captains challenges for this reason
Matthew Lloyd you hypocrite. Round 10 2007. Swans vs Essendon. Im sure you remember that one hey.
Every close call on goals or inside 50 free kicks should be reviewed with VAR, just like they do in soccer. I think most fans would be willing to wear the trade-off of slowing down the game occasionally. ( * What is the VAR in football?
A video assistant referee (VAR) is a match official, with independent access to match footage, who may assist the referee only in the event of a 'clear and obvious error' or 'serious missed incident' in relation to: a. Goal/no goal. b. Penalty/no penalty.)
Bad umpiring happens all the time throughout the game. It’s about time that the VAR video assisted referee be applied to anything in the 50 zone. That was one mistake on a goal. But throughout the games there are half dozen free goals given away by pathetic umpiring. Yet, a team up the other end doesn’t get same freebies.