I'm doing my first paint job, using the duplicolor deep blue, clear coat and using self etching primer on my old truck. Ive done it before but with rattle cans, it lasted for 3 years its been 10 years since and the fenders look great still. Info was great thanks
Some good tips in this video - Not criticizing your work at all, you seem spot on about a lot of the critical stuff. I'm just leaving a comment for others about paints and thinners. Personally I'm not a big fan of Duplicolor products - I understand that folks have to use them because it is all they can easily get. But I say resist the temptation. Duplicolor is bad IMO, and mostly because of the cheapo solvents they tend to use. Compared to real pro lacquer paints, Duplicolor shoots poorly, dries very slow, and generally doesn't flow out that well. The orange peel you see in that glovebox door finish is typical of Duplicolor...but not of all lacquers. I've shot R&M and PPG color coats that were so smooth they were ready to install without buffing, and in fact could NOT be buffed because the factory OEM dash finish (originally lacquer, BTW) was a semi-gloss finish and could not be buffed or color sanded. Just my opinion, but if you are going to do this much work, my advice is go ahead and order a quality lacquer paint. And - very important - get the best solvent you can afford. FWIW, good solvent like DuPont 3602 or 3608 or PPG 861 it is going to cost a person about 65-70 USD (fall 2022). That's for or five times what folks pay for the so-called lacquer thinner they sell at the big box house. I know what you're saying "Lacquer thinner is lacquer thinner, right?" But if you think that, you'd be mistaken, and here's why; Lacquer Thinner is a generic trade term for a combination of five or six components, including methanol, Acetone, Tolulene, Solvent Naptha and other complex ethanol compounds. Now here's the deal. The things that make great thinners shoot great with specific paints are their specific formulations of those five or six components. Like anything else cheap, the cheap box house generic "lacquer thinners" are mostly the cheapest solvent available when that batch was mixed. What you buy in February might be 20 or 30% different than what you buy in September. In contrast, DuPont 360x or PPG 861 or any other automotive grade solvent is highly pure and highly consistent in blend. These manufacturers vary the PRODUCT PRICE to keep the formulation the same. Cheapo versions vary the FORMULATION to keep the price at the hardware store "about even with everyone else". These kinds of lacquer thinners are great for cleaning your guns, or as wash thinners, or maybe for primers where you know you are going to wet sand. But for any final color coat, the thinner really does matter a lot. FWIW, I've been shooting lacquer for over forty-five years.
Thanks for taking a great deal of time to write your comments. We enjoy hearing ideas from our viewers. You are correct that there are better products. This video deals with a product the average person is most likely to encounter and how to use it. Thanks for watching.
Excellent. No substitute for experience. This video was very good for anyone wanting to try lacquer. I spray lacquer for cabinetry and agree product varies and choosing good materials helps the job turn out better with less work. Also temperature and humidity are very critical for lacquer spraying. Cheers
Yes I agree. This paint is terrible. Orange peel and had to sand the whole car and it doesn’t sand well. Get good paint as this is 1000 times more work.
Have72chevy c-10 lacquer paint 30years in sun, no peeling, base coat clear paint on many cars peels off roof, good, trunk doesn't last in sun, laquer does👍
Great video on a very rarely covered topic. Thank you. I was surprised to hear that it is possible to paint acrylic lacquer over epoxy. How do you do it exactly?
Provide a good key on the epoxy surface. Example scotch bright the epoxy piece and then completely remove all sanding dust. The lacquer will adhere to the scratches in the keyed surface.
We live near a main artery which caries a lot of ambulances to a nursing home that's almost next door. We also live within a mile of a major freeway intersection. Both of these contribute.
Great video. I don't know anything (or didn't) about lacquer. I have an old Rock-Ola jukebox that has a pot metal gripper arm that raises and lowers the record. It's supposed to be gloss black, but there is recessed, stamped print down inside the metal, and it has to be white. It's all stripped down to bare metal, and I've been told that I should use lacquer for the black, not worrying about getting it down into the letters, and then use white enamel paint on top of that, so I can use mineral spirits to clean off the excess white (without lifting the black). Does this sound okay to you, and should I use lacquer primer on that pot metal first (or epoxy primer)? I'm concerned about getting so much paint into these letters, there won't be any edges left and they'll be illegible by the time I go to apply the white. Thanks.
Good question. You can use either primer you mention below the lacquer. The suggestion regarding the white is correct. using lacquer for the letters would not work out well. There are water base paints that can also be used for the white letters such as acrylic paints available in arts and craft stores. Thanks for watching.
gday. I came across your video re lacquer paint.. I am currently in the process of sanding down a classic mini and will be painting it in cellulose. I know terminologies of words change across the pond from the UK to the USA. I haven't found any videos on paint a car in cellulose. can you tell me if cellulose is the same as nitro cellulose. thanks again for the great videos on lacquer paint kevin
Thank you so much for your comment and for becoming a new fan of our channel. That's a good question. However, they are different formulations. Here's a link to one of our videos: How to Sand and Buff Clear Coat - 3M Sand & Polish System, ruclips.net/video/4WyHA9Kota4/видео.htmlsi=F6LYCzG4JOEI0e8F Hope you find it useful. Thanks again for watching!
The first car i sprayed was done with this stuff and aside from being razor thin, these paints are ok for quick jobs or for something with not much value. I will say that the paint shop silver covers fairly well and its super bright. That first car I shot was a 93 Z-28 and it was an ashy purple color with the standard GM clear coming off in chunks so I went with the duplicolor silver (very forgiving color) and after the clear was buffed the car went from being worth $1000 to $2500🤑 lol, but it looked fine and held up with normal maintenance
We remember those days. Silver is an improvement for the car's design, I'm sure. With prices on cars these days, new or used, a $2500 car has value beyond measure. Thanks so much for sharing your story and for watching.
I shot my 70 dodge with acrylic Lacquer in 1988. 5 coats of hemi orange, color sanded and buffed to brilliant shine. I still have that car today, and it’s still like the day I painted it. Now I’m a fanatic and detailer for 35 years but you can maintain it, if you put extra time. Nice video!
I own a 1976 El Camino Classic w original two Chevy tone baby blue & dark metallic blue from the Conquista package. I’ve matched the Dark Blue Metallic with Napa’s Chevy #35. The ElCo’s hood is the Chevy #28 baby blue, and thats the problem. It has large dry spots across the hood, especially the drivers side, from years of rough cutting and polishing. I measured the paint depth and its down to 55m on my electric paint meter. I’ve read you need to stop cutting at 35m paint. I’m trying to work out the dry spots, but the clay bar has not worked. Would a Duplicolor tech be able to match the Chevy #28 baby blue with it’s 45 year patina ? & Would a Duplicolor lacquer safe paint stick to the clean original chevy lacquer paint ? Or would it need a clean bare metal hood?
I recently bought laquer paint from autozone, a 100 dollar air gun and everything else needed to paint a bumper. It says its a no mix required paint. But it sprays out very thick, and looks very bumpy on the bumper. Do you know what could help me? Also when i set my psi to 30 or below on my air gun paint just runs out the end of the gun?? I didnt understand what was causing that either? I would appreciate any help!
You're probably going to need 40-60bs line pressure and be operating in the green arc on the gun if it's an HVLP. Adjust that on your gun. I that doesn't fix your issue, you can add additional lacquer thinner if necessary. However, it could be that you're moving the gun too fast. You need to slow the had movement down. It's best to practice on a scrap piece of metal.
Respray. Can I sand, prep and paint over the lacquer original finish with new lacquer? Asking because it seems to use 2 part urethane I'll have to strip to bare metal.
Paid a guy to enamel my truck. Bastard used Laquer and it’s coming off. He used no primer. He sprayed it while I was gone. When I came back he was hosing it off. I could still see thru the paint. So he dried it off and shot it again. I’m not sure if it will last
Good Question! It's not recommended as it reduces the life of the finish, at best. However, it can be done by waiting at least 3 to 4 months after the enamel is applied before application. You're better off with all enamel or all lacquer as a finish system.
Hello I’m interested in lacquer painting wood and there is very limited info out there in this. Can I brush paint this lacquer to wood? I don’t want to spray it?
Thank you for asking. Lacquer is routinely used as a finish on wood. However, it is sprayed on because it dries so fast that it will normally show your brush strokes. It's solvent also dissolves previous coats which makes multiple coats very difficult with a brush application. This is why it sprays well in multiple coats. Thanks for watching!
We did not use a lacquer primer. And now when we used the color and wipe our hand across it the color wipes off on my hand. What have we done wrong and can we fix this?
There are so many possibilities as to the primer you might have used that it is hard to say exactly what your issue is with the lacquer top coat. However, testing compatibility before lacquer top coating is important. Generally, you need to scuff the non-lacquer primer prior to applying the lacquer as a top coat. Various primers have different spec sheets that specify the amount of scuff needed for a top coat to adhere to them.
What is your opinion on German branded lacquers, i.e. 2 in 1 paints (primer and basecoat) . Can I use it on car wheels, would it last for at least 10 years?
Good questions! German brands should work well. I trust products that come from industrialized nations in Europe, Japan, Taiwan, US, Canada. I don't trust products from China or third world countries; they might have unknown contaminants in them. Lacquer Paint can be used on car wheels, if the car is used in fair weather and is garaged most of the time. If the car is your daily driver, or you're going to use it in harsh climates where the roads are treated with cinders or salt, it's better to have them powder coated. Thanks for watching!
You can, but it is hard to do. I normally try to spray those areas with a more wet coat for flow out. With this process, I don't color sand them. Thanks for watching!
Great video. Thanks for sharing. I have some Buick Engine motor color paint. The instructions on the paint say thin before spraying. But that is it. What would I use to thin the paint?
Because there are multiple different types of paint, you'll have to research it on the internet and find out what the manufacturer recommends. What type/brand of paint are you using?
Try dipping it in lacquer thinner and then remove it by rubbing. If the part is too large, then use rags that are well soaked in lacquer thinner. Do this in a well ventilated area or outdoors. Be sure to wear PPE. Thanks for watching!
Lacquer us SUPER THICK!!!! it dries FAST! you MUST THIN ITi finally got a decent finish with an 80% thinner and 20% Lacquer. Temp was only around 65°F !!! ...if you need to take an edge off or a drip, just use straight thinner, but carefully.
Yes, isn't that something. Our studio is a few feet from a highway in a community that is growing. We also live near a senior community that has frequent visits from Lifeline Ambulances. Sometimes they come out looking like hearses. All silliness aside, thanks for watching!
Good question. Plastic jar lids can be painted. First, apply a proper plastic adhesion promoter. The real issue is which paint products might work well on a surface that would be under constant movement and remain pliable. However, I don't know enough about what those products might be. Thanks for watching. We hope you found the video useful.
Probably the most clearly explained video I've found on the web on this topic. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
You're very welcome! Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching!
i bet ur part of the menza club.
best video ive watched on it
I'm doing my first paint job, using the duplicolor deep blue, clear coat and using self etching primer on my old truck. Ive done it before but with rattle cans, it lasted for 3 years its been 10 years since and the fenders look great still. Info was great thanks
Some good tips in this video - Not criticizing your work at all, you seem spot on about a lot of the critical stuff. I'm just leaving a comment for others about paints and thinners. Personally I'm not a big fan of Duplicolor products - I understand that folks have to use them because it is all they can easily get. But I say resist the temptation. Duplicolor is bad IMO, and mostly because of the cheapo solvents they tend to use. Compared to real pro lacquer paints, Duplicolor shoots poorly, dries very slow, and generally doesn't flow out that well. The orange peel you see in that glovebox door finish is typical of Duplicolor...but not of all lacquers. I've shot R&M and PPG color coats that were so smooth they were ready to install without buffing, and in fact could NOT be buffed because the factory OEM dash finish (originally lacquer, BTW) was a semi-gloss finish and could not be buffed or color sanded.
Just my opinion, but if you are going to do this much work, my advice is go ahead and order a quality lacquer paint. And - very important - get the best solvent you can afford. FWIW, good solvent like DuPont 3602 or 3608 or PPG 861 it is going to cost a person about 65-70 USD (fall 2022). That's for or five times what folks pay for the so-called lacquer thinner they sell at the big box house. I know what you're saying "Lacquer thinner is lacquer thinner, right?" But if you think that, you'd be mistaken, and here's why; Lacquer Thinner is a generic trade term for a combination of five or six components, including methanol, Acetone, Tolulene, Solvent Naptha and other complex ethanol compounds.
Now here's the deal. The things that make great thinners shoot great with specific paints are their specific formulations of those five or six components. Like anything else cheap, the cheap box house generic "lacquer thinners" are mostly the cheapest solvent available when that batch was mixed. What you buy in February might be 20 or 30% different than what you buy in September. In contrast, DuPont 360x or PPG 861 or any other automotive grade solvent is highly pure and highly consistent in blend. These manufacturers vary the PRODUCT PRICE to keep the formulation the same. Cheapo versions vary the FORMULATION to keep the price at the hardware store "about even with everyone else". These kinds of lacquer thinners are great for cleaning your guns, or as wash thinners, or maybe for primers where you know you are going to wet sand. But for any final color coat, the thinner really does matter a lot.
FWIW, I've been shooting lacquer for over forty-five years.
Thanks for taking a great deal of time to write your comments. We enjoy hearing ideas from our viewers. You are correct that there are better products. This video deals with a product the average person is most likely to encounter and how to use it. Thanks for watching.
Hi do you have any knowledge about how we can paint on cosmetics Creams plastics jar caps?
Excellent. No substitute for experience. This video was very good for anyone wanting to try lacquer. I spray lacquer for cabinetry and agree product varies and choosing good materials helps the job turn out better with less work. Also temperature and humidity are very critical for lacquer spraying. Cheers
Yes I agree. This paint is terrible. Orange peel and had to sand the whole car and it doesn’t sand well. Get good paint as this is 1000 times more work.
Thanks for the great video. Cheers
Our pleasure! Thank you for your comment. It's greatly appreciated.
Excellent video! Will black lacquer stick to upol spray can primer without lifting or do I have to epoxy over the upol? Thanks alot
Have72chevy c-10 lacquer paint 30years in sun, no peeling, base coat clear paint on many cars peels off roof, good, trunk doesn't last in sun, laquer does👍
Thanks for sharing. The lacquer products are the best!
Great video. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge .
My pleasure! Glad the video was helpful and thanks for watching!
Great information painting 🖼 👌 👍 👏
Thank you! Cheers! Thanks for watching.
Great video, clear and consise
Much appreciated! We're happy to know that you found it useful. Thanks for watching!
Great video on a very rarely covered topic. Thank you. I was surprised to hear that it is possible to paint acrylic lacquer over epoxy. How do you do it exactly?
Provide a good key on the epoxy surface. Example scotch bright the epoxy piece and then completely remove all sanding dust. The lacquer will adhere to the scratches in the keyed surface.
I’ve never heard so many sirens in one video background haha. Where are you man?? Thanks for the info
We live near a main artery which caries a lot of ambulances to a nursing home that's almost next door. We also live within a mile of a major freeway intersection. Both of these contribute.
Great video. I don't know anything (or didn't) about lacquer. I have an old Rock-Ola jukebox that has a pot metal gripper arm that raises and lowers the record. It's supposed to be gloss black, but there is recessed, stamped print down inside the metal, and it has to be white. It's all stripped down to bare metal, and I've been told that I should use lacquer for the black, not worrying about getting it down into the letters, and then use white enamel paint on top of that, so I can use mineral spirits to clean off the excess white (without lifting the black). Does this sound okay to you, and should I use lacquer primer on that pot metal first (or epoxy primer)? I'm concerned about getting so much paint into these letters, there won't be any edges left and they'll be illegible by the time I go to apply the white. Thanks.
Good question. You can use either primer you mention below the lacquer. The suggestion regarding the white is correct. using lacquer for the letters would not work out well. There are water base paints that can also be used for the white letters such as acrylic paints available in arts and craft stores. Thanks for watching.
gday. I came across your video re lacquer paint.. I am currently in the process of sanding down a classic mini and will be painting it in cellulose. I know terminologies of words change across the pond from the UK to the USA. I haven't found any videos on paint a car in cellulose. can you tell me if cellulose is the same as nitro cellulose. thanks again for the great videos on lacquer paint
kevin
Thank you so much for your comment and for becoming a new fan of our channel. That's a good question. However, they are different formulations. Here's a link to one of our videos: How to Sand and Buff Clear Coat - 3M Sand & Polish System, ruclips.net/video/4WyHA9Kota4/видео.htmlsi=F6LYCzG4JOEI0e8F Hope you find it useful. Thanks again for watching!
excellent...thank you
You're welcome. So nice of you. Thanks for watching!
I have a project for some interior paint and my paint guy doesn't want to do laquer pint. So I;m going to do it. :)
Laquer paint is very forgiving. Flaws are easy to fix. You've made a good decision. Thanks for watching!
The first car i sprayed was done with this stuff and aside from being razor thin, these paints are ok for quick jobs or for something with not much value. I will say that the paint shop silver covers fairly well and its super bright. That first car I shot was a 93 Z-28 and it was an ashy purple color with the standard GM clear coming off in chunks so I went with the duplicolor silver (very forgiving color) and after the clear was buffed the car went from being worth $1000 to $2500🤑 lol, but it looked fine and held up with normal maintenance
We remember those days. Silver is an improvement for the car's design, I'm sure. With prices on cars these days, new or used, a $2500 car has value beyond measure. Thanks so much for sharing your story and for watching.
I shot my 70 dodge with acrylic Lacquer in 1988. 5 coats of hemi orange, color sanded and buffed to brilliant shine. I still have that car today, and it’s still like the day I painted it. Now I’m a fanatic and detailer for 35 years but you can maintain it, if you put extra time. Nice video!
I own a 1976 El Camino Classic w original two Chevy tone baby blue & dark metallic blue from the Conquista package. I’ve matched the Dark Blue Metallic with Napa’s Chevy #35.
The ElCo’s hood is the Chevy #28 baby blue, and thats the problem. It has large dry spots across the hood, especially the drivers side, from years of rough cutting and polishing. I measured the paint depth and its down to 55m on my electric paint meter. I’ve read you need to stop cutting at 35m paint. I’m trying to work out the dry spots, but the clay bar has not worked.
Would a Duplicolor tech be able to match the Chevy #28 baby blue with it’s 45 year patina ?
& Would a Duplicolor lacquer safe paint stick to the clean original chevy lacquer paint ?
Or would it need a clean bare metal hood?
Not a specific match, unless it's something that's already made.
I recently bought laquer paint from autozone, a 100 dollar air gun and everything else needed to paint a bumper. It says its a no mix required paint. But it sprays out very thick, and looks very bumpy on the bumper. Do you know what could help me? Also when i set my psi to 30 or below on my air gun paint just runs out the end of the gun?? I didnt understand what was causing that either? I would appreciate any help!
You're probably going to need 40-60bs line pressure and be operating in the green arc on the gun if it's an HVLP. Adjust that on your gun. I that doesn't fix your issue, you can add additional lacquer thinner if necessary. However, it could be that you're moving the gun too fast. You need to slow the had movement down. It's best to practice on a scrap piece of metal.
Respray. Can I sand, prep and paint over the lacquer original finish with new lacquer? Asking because it seems to use 2 part urethane I'll have to strip to bare metal.
Yes, you can apply lacquer directly over old lacquer in decent condition. Thanks!
Paid a guy to enamel my truck. Bastard used Laquer and it’s coming off. He used no primer. He sprayed it while I was gone. When I came back he was hosing it off. I could still see thru the paint. So he dried it off and shot it again. I’m not sure if it will last
Total bummer! I wouldn't blame the paint. It works fine. That doesn't mean he did it correctly though.
What to do if you paint lacquer over oil based enamel..whats the trick?
Good Question! It's not recommended as it reduces the life of the finish, at best. However, it can be done by waiting at least 3 to 4 months after the enamel is applied before application. You're better off with all enamel or all lacquer as a finish system.
Hello I’m interested in lacquer painting wood and there is very limited info out there in this. Can I brush paint this lacquer to wood? I don’t want to spray it?
Thank you for asking. Lacquer is routinely used as a finish on wood. However, it is sprayed on because it dries so fast that it will normally show your brush strokes. It's solvent also dissolves previous coats which makes multiple coats very difficult with a brush application. This is why it sprays well in multiple coats. Thanks for watching!
We did not use a lacquer primer. And now when we used the color and wipe our hand across it the color wipes off on my hand. What have we done wrong and can we fix this?
There are so many possibilities as to the primer you might have used that it is hard to say exactly what your issue is with the lacquer top coat. However, testing compatibility before lacquer top coating is important. Generally, you need to scuff the non-lacquer primer prior to applying the lacquer as a top coat. Various primers have different spec sheets that specify the amount of scuff needed for a top coat to adhere to them.
What is your opinion on German branded lacquers, i.e. 2 in 1 paints (primer and basecoat) . Can I use it on car wheels, would it last for at least 10 years?
Good questions! German brands should work well. I trust products that come from industrialized nations in Europe, Japan, Taiwan, US, Canada. I don't trust products from China or third world countries; they might have unknown contaminants in them.
Lacquer Paint can be used on car wheels, if the car is used in fair weather and is garaged most of the time. If the car is your daily driver, or you're going to use it in harsh climates where the roads are treated with cinders or salt, it's better to have them powder coated. Thanks for watching!
So door jambs and inner panels no color sanding? I am doing a 67 vw bug, there is soo much inner exposed metal.
You can, but it is hard to do. I normally try to spray those areas with a more wet coat for flow out. With this process, I don't color sand them. Thanks for watching!
Would it be a good choice for MTB frames?
It would look great and be easy to touch up, but it is not as tough as a catalyzed paint.
The Trans Am I'm restoring was painted starlight black lacquer. Do I have to do a.clear over final coat, or just sand and buff? Thanks for the video!
Good question. You are correct by saying do a clear coat over final coat, then sand and buff. Thanks for watching.
Great video. Thanks for sharing. I have some Buick Engine motor color paint. The instructions on the paint say thin before spraying. But that is it. What would I use to thin the paint?
Because there are multiple different types of paint, you'll have to research it on the internet and find out what the manufacturer recommends. What type/brand of paint are you using?
Great video!!! But your intro caught me off gard. Lol rip my ears
Sorry about that.
How do you remove coloured lacquer from your alloy ?
Try dipping it in lacquer thinner and then remove it by rubbing. If the part is too large, then use rags that are well soaked in lacquer thinner. Do this in a well ventilated area or outdoors. Be sure to wear PPE. Thanks for watching!
What a good lacquer primer aerosol?
Duplicolor makes an aerosol lacquer primer. It can be found in auto parts stores. Thanks for watching!
@@CarzPlus Is the Duplicolor lacquer primer a Nitrocellulose base, or a Dimethonol Carbonate base??
Lacquer us SUPER THICK!!!!
it dries FAST!
you MUST THIN ITi finally got a decent finish with an 80% thinner and 20% Lacquer. Temp was only around 65°F !!!
...if you need to take an edge off or a drip, just use straight thinner, but carefully.
Yes, that would be true depending on the product used.
Sounds like alot of crime in the back ground 🤔 but real good info thank you
Yes, isn't that something. Our studio is a few feet from a highway in a community that is growing. We also live near a senior community that has frequent visits from Lifeline Ambulances. Sometimes they come out looking like hearses. All silliness aside, thanks for watching!
My God I fell asleep in lost interest just paint the damn thing
Sorry about that. The video is meant for anyone from novice to semi-experienced.
This paint is terrible
Anybody knows how to selectively paint on cosmetics jar caps?
Good question. Plastic jar lids can be painted. First, apply a proper plastic adhesion promoter. The real issue is which paint products might work well on a surface that would be under constant movement and remain pliable. However, I don't know enough about what those products might be. Thanks for watching. We hope you found the video useful.
FUCKIN CHRIST!!!.0:13 ..RIP headphone users..Now I cant even hear the commentary.. That was just Wrong.
Oops! We'll be careful in the future.