Giving EVERY Monotype Starter a Second Type
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2024
- Have you ever thought about what type Meganium could have if it had a second type? Well join me as I choose a type for each monotype starter Pokémon based on their designs and backstory to give them a breath of fresh air!
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4:43 dude plesiosaurs are water lizards that had fins they look very similar to Lapras. The word you’re looking for is Sauropods
Omg you’re so right my b! Thanks for the correction!
@@OKreations no worries I’m a little Dino nerd so when I heard you say plesiosaur I couldn’t help myself but to write the comment 😅
I understand😂
@@OKreations 0:24 shoutout to the only seven mono type starters
I didn’t wanna put the gen 8 starters there because they don’t animate
I would give meganium the fairy type
or normal
@@partimentieveryday It's the most normal starter EVER tbh
@@lucastheodoro4188 I’ve always thought that as well. Normal just fits for meganium. Honestly it fits with typhlosion as well. Gen 2 starters were a little bit… normal.
Same here
I vvish meg haf alt form where it was grass electric
I feel like the Johto guys were made to be THE monotype trio
Gen 8 is mono done worse
@@SymbioticVadercan't be worse than the literal worst designed starters ever
I’m making a few type changes to my rom hack, the base Johto starters’ typings ain’t one of em. I just like the idea of having at least ONE good pure typer
@@eumesmo3208Gen 8 & 9 are tied for the worst starters
I really dont think that was the intention, since we know they are rushed and got added late into development
I love Mega Blastoise, but it should have been Water/Steel and I stand by that
Trooooo
Blastoise in general should have been Water-Steel
@@AmericanMario-E Venusaur wouldn't be at an advantage then
So
I geniuenly like the idea of Blastoise being Water/Rock type more, mostly just because the shell reminds me alot of an actual boulder
Ngl Typhlosion seems like a fire-normal type of
Why?
@@Peacedripper idk
It could work
@@Peacedripper because of its simple design. Mainly it actually feels like it could have been an ancient furret that adapted to it's environment learning how to use fire
I like the idea of him being fighting, what do you guys think? ("Yet ANOTHER fire fighting" lol)
Rillaboom could have a hidden ability called percussion or something like that. It would make all sound based moves use the attack stat.
That would be really cool I like this idea
Maybe, but considering its lore of how his music returns vitality to plants, grassy surge just works very well
Honestly that would just kill Rilaboon's viability
Dunno if that's a good idea, but it does make sense, using your physical strength to pound a drum that causes special type damage
Exactly! Gen 8 starters Pokémon such a huge disappointment, all we want is Fire/Electric starters for Scorbunny and Water/Ghost for Sobble.
I thought this is what everyone thought ngl
Ikrrrr
Might as well finish out with Grass/Dark for Grookey then.
Scorbunny= Fire/Fighting
Sobble=Water/Dark
Grookey=Grass
@@bryantheang4063 Absolutely not! We do NOT need another Fire/Fighting starter, or another Water/Dark for that matter.
Here's what I would have done;
Blastoise: Water/Steel (since Squirtle's shell is based on a rusty coin too)
Meganium: Grass/Fairy (Since its breath brings plants back to life, similar to the Florges line)
Typhlosion: Fire/Ground (same reasoning as yours, very volcano inspired)
Feraligatr: Water/Dragon (It learns quite a few Dragon moves like Dragon Tail, Dragon Claw, Dragon Dance, Outrage, Scale Shot and Breaking Swipe)
Sceptile: Grass/Dragon (It's very reminiscent of a Velociraptor, plus Dragon type E4 Drayton uses one.)
Serperior: Grass/Dragon (Dragons have always had the kind of prestige associated with royalty, plus there's large mythological snakes like the Basilisk)
Samurott: Water/Fighting (It would be the perfect counter to its Hisuian forme, plus its dex entries mention training a fighting style like many fighting types.)
Rillaboom: Grass/Ground (it gets A LOT of Ground type moves, plus you could interpret its drumming as sounding like an earthquake.)
Cinderace: Fire/Electric (Just because I don't want another Fire/Fighting type, plus he can be lightning fast. It just needs more Electric moves than Electro Ball)
Inteleon: Water/Ghost (Completely agree with the reasoning that Ghost type fits its invisibility, as many Ghost types turn invisible too.)
This is the one. I was looking at the screen like “what? there are way better options.”
Inteleon speaks psychic to me, using its intellect for spying
Typhlosion would be much better suited as a Fire/Normal type. Typhlosion takes inspiration from a rodent, and most rodents in the Pokémon canon are aligned with the Normal type. Also, Normal moves make up a plurality of Typhlosion’s movepool, behind Fire type. And lastly, when looking at Typhlosion’s design, the complete lack of any standout features really adds to its “normalness.” Not to mention, Fire/Normal would’ve been an amazing contradiction to its Hisuian form, which is Fire/Ghost. IMO, Typhlosion would’ve been an absolute beast if it were Fire/Normal with Adaptability as its HA.
It’s literally classified as the Volcano Pokémon, what are you yapping about
Got eem
@@sussybaka-9796 but zekrom is classified as the Black void pokemon, dosent make it dark type
Dude the thing has a literal Volcano on its neck wdym with "No standout features"
@@panjhisahelsenordelospalil1717Stop exaggerating it's just fire spewing out not a volcano, plus with how very simple it's design is and how it's very similar to rodent pokemon, normal fits it very well
I would give Typhlosion the Normal type, as it feels like it could fit, plus stab normal attacks could be nice
I agree I think that could work!
If you've already accounted for the fire type with the burning quills, it is quite a regular mammal like Furret and Raticate after all
I don't think all starter Pokémon need a secondary type. However, I believe a few starter Pokémon would benefit from a secondary type and improved level up learnsets to take advantage of it. For example, Grovyle and Sceptile should have been Grass-Dragon type. When Treecko evolves at Level 16, Fury Cutter is a terrible move for Grovyle to learn. This is the perfect time for Grovyle to learn Dragonbreath because it will actually help Grovyle and Sceptile with all the early-mid game gyms they struggle with.
Blastoise deserves a second type
@@jockson7574 I wonder how a Water-Ice type Blastoise would be. He would gain more weaknesses but STAB Ice Beam or Blizzard would give him an easier time vs. Grass Type Pokémon. I am surprised that there is still no Water-Ice type starter Pokémon.
@@nc5958 yeah or maybe water rock. Everyone is saying water steel but steel would make it a bit vulnerable to Charizard
Honestly I just have that feeling that starters *should* get secondary typings because they are your first mon in a game, they're who you bond with so there should be a "reward" for having them around.. like.. okay Johto I get, early gen I can get the vibes of not having that ideology down (personally would have been cool for Feraligatr to be only dual type as like.. inverse of Kanto) but Galar? The 8th gen?! I literally have so many other better options for each type.. like mono grass is not good so 90% of dual type grass are better choices *at least*
Like it felt weird being like "welp my reward for training you is... uhh... nothing.. could have grabbed anything else to cover the same stuff *plus* STAB in another type"
@@BaconNuke I think they decided to not give the Galar starter Pokémon a secondary type because it was the 20th anniversary of Gold and Silver in Japan. That is the only reason I can think of for why they broke the tradition once in the new games.
serperior and sceptile deserve dragon typing more than anything else, i didn't like how you wouldn't allow them to have that typing just because you already used it with meganium (even though blaziken and infernape were both fire/fighting)
Fair enough! Did I say that was the reasoning? I feel like I just wanted some diversity between the mega, it’d be kinda like thinking about when to Tera
Out of the three, sceptile is the weirdest being a dragon. Serperior or Meganium are by far a lot better
@@Gichou014 Sceptile are in Dragon Egg group while Serperior and Meganium dont so...
@@kacangajaib1563 like that matters anything... This is so inconsistent
i could see dragon or fairy. if snivy is a starter in z-a and gets a mega, then i would like him to gain the dragon type. if he doesn’t, then adding fairy to his base would make more sense.
Meganium should’ve gotten the Fairy type in Gen 6. I will die on that hill. It should have fairy moves too. Can’t believe it didn’t get 1 damaging one. And that the Tera raid was psychic was just salt in the wound to me. I guess that means GameFreak sees it as more psychic than anything.
Edit: Honestly it seems to me GameFreak thinks the Tera raids work as a way of saying “this is what it would be if we thought of it” or as a kind of 3rd type.
With the exception of the Typhlosion and Samurott raids. Those were more so they could counter their Hisuian counterparts.
While Samurott isn't an insect/anthropod its samurai-themed shells provides some connection with Bug typing.
The anime had a Bug Catcher that wore samurai armor and Rhinoceros beetles in japan(kabutomushi) are named after samurai helmets(kabuto) + Megahorn was even the signature of a rhinoceros beetle mon
Meganium, a pokemon infamously ridden with too many weaknesses to work as the bulky supporter it was meant to be, should've gotten the type that added another weakness on top of that and to one of the best type in the game too. Yeah, it checks lmao. You guys should just stop seeing pink and immediately going to the fairy type route. Grass - Dragon fits perfectly.
@@claudionosotti8812I seriously doubt people picked the Fairy type simply because it's pink; it's more likely because of its usual kind demeanor in the dex entries. Besides, if we want to take its recent Tera Raid into account, apparently GameFreak sees the Psychic type more fitting for Meganium than Dragon, so... 😅
@@claudionosotti8812 it has 0 to do with pink, there’s barely any pink, and everything to do with it being able to bring plants back to life. It has a mystical connection to nature that goes beyond just being a grass type and they even reflected that in Pokémon Snap. Before the fairy type was added, psychic would’ve fit it better than pure grass, since it was the de facto magic type. Fairies have a connection to nature which is why Celebi should’ve been changed too.
Nature magic is the same as fairy magic. Meganium calls on that more than any other non-psychic grass Pokémon. It being a dinosaur is the only thing that gives the impression of the dragon type. But it doesn’t call upon the same draconic energy the dragons do. Aurorus, Rampardos, Basdiodon, and even the pseudo dragon Aerodactyl are directly based on dinosaurs and the only fossil Pokemon that got the dragon type was Tyrantrum which really only got it as it’s based on the T-Rex the “king” of the dinosaurs. Aurorus is even a similar species of dinosaur to Meganium but since it has a different type of energy, ice, it isn’t a dragon.
Meganium can be a pseudo dragon like Charizard, Gyarados, and Aerodactyl, as they’re not dragons but can summon that energy and look like dragons too, but its strong connection to nature matches the fairy type more.
@@volcanbolt12 Meganium is mostly green anyway. Its petal collar is the only pink on it. And it could be yellow or blue and it’d still be more nature magic than dragon magic. So the fairy type would apply to it regardless.
Psychic would have been its de facto type prior to the fairy type since even Celebi the literal fairy onion pokemon is psychic. And it too should’ve been changed to fairy type. The only pink on Celebi is its shiny form, and that was more or less a randomized pallet.
Yeah why isn't Blastoise a steel type? It's literally carrying cannons and it would have been a perfect balance for the types being immune to poison from vena and strong to flying. Plus gen 1 definitely needed more dual types.
Gen two I'd make them grass fairy water dark fire electric as I can see cinda line having static fur and storms can cause fires. Mega would be more interesting as a fairy type to give more options. Toda line dark would be hax
Treeko line dark or dragon is cool but I'd love to see grass steel as it basically sharpens itself like a sword to fight and would be very powerful that way too. Sure fire destorys it but more options to cut down foes
Snivy line I'd go with fairy as a mythical creature that sheds it's arms and legs to become a snek. Sounds cool
Grass steel is a fun idea!
@@OKreations plus it became a top tier pokemon with ferrathorn.
Someone clearly haven’t seen Serperior back sprite lol the hands are behind its back
Steel didnt exist when it was made lmao
@@Fahootaef magnemite line got the steel type in gen 2 even though it’s a gen 1 Pokémon
Blastoise - Water/Steel
Meganium - Grass/Fairy
Typhlosion - Fire/Ground
Feraligator - Water/Dark
Sceptile - Grass/Dragon
I think the reason we don't see Dragon in starter trios is just because it would remove the ability for the Pokemon they're supposed to be weak against to hit them super effectively. However, this could be circumvented the same way the Sinnoh trio did, by making that other Pokemon's secondary type still able to hit them hard.
I mean i dunno personally i feel like a long as it's the last evo or doesen't really matter, you're going to have a ton of options even before level 36
@@sparkypikachu7776 Yeah, you will have options, but that's not the point - The point is just how they fare against each other.
8:42
“No other type to portray its regal side”
Primarina, a Fairy type clown: *Am I a joke to you?*
I’m glad types are given to pokemon for different reasons
Ngl I thought primarina was based on a Siren
Think she is
Inteleon can become invisible, fly, control highly pressured streams and pierce through targets weaknesses... I would give him the psychic type, trying to make his "magic" look like 007 skills
i really like this video and this is something i’ve thought about a lot too!! i also like to come up with alternative typings for the ones who already have secondary typings, when i don’t think they fit as well
here’s my personal ideas! (i don’t really pay much attention to balance admittedly haha, so some of these trios might tip heavily in a certain starter’s direction):
Gen 1
- Venusaur: Grass/Poison
- Charizard: Fire/Dragon
- Blastoise: Water/Steal
Gen 2 (i prefer to keep them monotype, but if i had to choose i’d go with this):
- Meganiun: Grass/Fairy
- Typhlosion: Fire/Normal
- Feraligatr: Water/Dark
Gen 3:
- Sceptile: Grass/Dragon
- Blaziken: Fire/Fighting
- Swampert: Water/Ground
Gen 4:
- Torterra: Grass/Ground
- Infernape: Fire/Fighting
- Empoleon: Water/Steel
Gen 5:
- Serperior: Grass/Dragon
- Emboar: Fire/Dark
- Samurott: Water/Fighting
Gen 6:
- Chesnaught: Grass/Fighting
- Delphox: Fire/Psychic
- Greninja: Water/Dark
Gen 7:
- Decidueye: Grass/Ghost
- Incineroar: Fire/Dark
- Primarina: Water/Fairy
Gen 8:
- Rillaboom: Grass/Ground
- Cinderace: Fire/Fighting
- Inteleon: Water/Dark
Gen 9:
- Meowscarada: Grass/Dark
- Skeledirge: Fire/Ghost
- Quaquaval: Water/Fighting
Before Watching the Video:
Blastoise - Water/Steel (Gives us another Steel Starter and its pumps makes sense with Steel. Just introduce Steel a Gen earlier. Kids will be surprised and excited when Blastoise has a secondary typing that they didn’t see on any other Gen 1 Mon (except Magnemite, if they saw that one). Plus, Blastoise is now immune to Venasaur’s poison attacks)
Meganium - Grass/Dragon (Gives Gen 2 a second Dragon, while also fitting Meganium’s theme)
Feraligatr - Water/Ice (Feraligatr’s main coverage move is Ice Fang, and it’s pads may be said to be for insulation, as alligators are cold-blooded and prefer warmer waters. Plus, Ice badly needs a good rep for the early Gens and this allows Feraligatr to be of better use against Clair and Lance)
Typhlosion - Fire/Ground (Main move is legit Eruption, and Cyndaquil is based on an Echidna, which is known to use its sharp claws to burrow underground)
Sceptile - Grass/Dark (Sceptile is legit known for being kinda shifty. In the anime, Treecko has a toothpick in its mouth. In Mystery Dungeon, Grovyle is seen as a thief for most of the game)
Serperior - Grass/Poison (Serperior is literally a snake. And its main tool, Coil, is Poison Type. Its designation as regal kinda reminds me of Poison, which Royalty kinda symbolized due to their underhanded tactics and toxic vices. Plus, Serperior reminds me of a King Cobra, which is highly venomous)
Samurott - Water/Rock (Samurott’s armor and shells just seem to make Rock the obvious choice)
Rillaboom - Grass/Dark (Rillaboom’s main thing is music, which is associated with Dark in Galar via Team Yell. Its long hair may be seen as a rebellious thing and its drums kinda signify a rock theme anyway)
Inteleon - Water/Ghost (This lizard is legit a ghost. It is a spy that is an expert at camouflage and evasion)
Cinderace - Fire/Fighting (Legit a soccer player)
You were valid until you said we needed ANOTHER fire/fighting starter
Cinderace could be fire/electric
@@jdog3609 Didn’t say we NEEDED one. I don’t want another one, but Cinderace legit fits the type in every single conceivable way. The soccer player aesthetic is textbook Fighting Type. It would need a full redesign to be a Fire/Electric.
Plus, if Rillaboom was Grass/Dark and Inteleon was Water/Ghost, you could make a full circle of secondary types with Dark beating Ghost, Ghost being immune to Fighting, and Fighting beating Dark.
@@VULCAN103 The soccer player aesthetic is textbook Fighting Type. It would need a full redesign to be a Fire/Electric.
@@Doomzdeh region form 👍
Meganium needs one of a few things, a support type like normal to buff out its move set with a few good TMS, a powerhouse type like Fairy or Psychic, or maybe something something completely different
Edit: Chikorita supremacy
This is really neat, I enjoyed the video!
Glad to hear it!
Love this!!! I'd honestly wanna draw the bois with your secondary type in mind
Go for it!
@@OKreations thx you!!!
Your video appeared in my recommended and from the icon alone I instantly thought I respect that idea. Then you gave my fave starter the steel type which I’ve always thought it should have too. You have earned my sub
Hey I appreciate the comment! I’m glad you enjoyed!🫡
These would be my picks
Blastoise: Water,Steel
Meganium: Grass,Fairy
Typhlosion: Fire,Rock
Feraligator: Water,Dragon
Sceptile: Grass,Dragon
Serperior: Grass,Dragon
Samorout: Water,Steel
Rillaboom: Grass,Fighting
Cinderace: Fire,Electric
Inteleon: Water,Ghost
Love the water steel samurott
@@OKreations me personally I wouldn’t give any starter the secondary Normal type as aside from a Ghost type immunity, they really wouldn’t really change at all, for me this goes down for other normal types like all the Normal,Flying types, Pyraoar line, Heliolisk line, Azurill (even though it definitely should’ve been Water,Fairy like its evolutions), Wigglytuff line, Sawsbuck line, Hisuian Zoroark line, Drampa, Obstagoon line, both forms of Indeedee, Girafirig line, Ursuluna, Wyrdeer, Arboliva line, Cyclizar, & Grafaiai,
Fair
If samurott was given the steel type it will make a chain with the starters ( fairy fighting and steel)
Btw Dragon actually fits more on Serperior. In various legends dragons are known to be kings, symbols of royalty and to have a very dignified dispositions
Fairy is better of on pokemon that represent fantasy creatures known for either its cutesy and nurturing nature or for a mischievious and cruel disposition
Plus then Serperior could do Contrary Draco Meteor.
Meganium is só bad that giving a dragon type makes it balanced
Meganium could also get fairy typing as the flowery-ness is a bit fairy like
I really liked your pick for the second types to the starters, because most of them are what I thought would also fit. Here are a few second types that I think could fit for the starters:
Meganium - Grass/Fairy (cause of Meganium healing nature.)
Typhlosion - Fire/Dark (since honey badger's are fierce.)
Sceptile - Grass/Electric (Sceptile is fast and that Mega Sceptile get's the Lightning Rod ability.)
Serperior - Grass/Steel (cause of Serperiors bulk.)
Rillaboom - Grass/Fighting (can learn a lot of Fighting moves.)
Cinderace - Fire/Electric (cause of Cinderace speed.)
Inteleon - Water/Flying (Inteleon can glide and that air is invisible.)
I have to say, i love the theming of the dual types for the gen 8 starters! Ghost just works so well for inteleon's spy theme together with the other two's fighting and normal to tell a story. Honestly just love that!
Glad you liked it! I appreciate it!
@@OKreations :)
Serperior: Grass/Dragon
Meganium: Grass/Fairy
I've always thought that the bulb things on Sceptile's back looked like electric like tesla coils or whatever
It does kinda look like that but they are actually seeds!
I’ll stand by this, starters should always be dual typing
Here's what I'd do (I haven't watched the video yet).
Blastoise: Water/Steel
Meganium: Grass/Fairy
Typhlosion: Fire/Ground (Ground because it's called the Volcano Pokemon)
Feraligatr: Water/Dark
Sceptile: Grass/Steel (Not dragon because that would be broken. Steel because of their leaves being as sharp as swords)
Serperior: Grass/Dark (Like Feraligatr, it is described as intimidating)
Samurott: Water/Rock (Shells are made from primarily minerals)
Rillaboom: Grass/Normal (Normal because it is a stand in for the sound type)
Cinderace: Fire/Fighting (haters be damned)
Inteleon: Water/Flying (for crying out loud it has a wing suit)
"Justice for Meganium✊😔"
I feel you😭😭
Another thing to add to dark type feraligatr think about how Alligators act especially when hunting they are suprising stealthy and how they kill is literally called a death role as it extremely effective and also brutal it is.
Also counter point to serperior is dragon works just as well as fairy if not better as dragon are also shown as regal creatures in some tales and stories and one of the main dragon types is the snake like dragons.
yea bro is crazy with the serp take
Nuh uh
@doozsromhacks insanity is in my bloodline so checks out.
Also what is so crazy about the dragon type yet again dragons are sometimes as Serpents and as regal creatures in my opinion it's similar to fairy type argument.
@OKreations danm I just really got nuh nu by someone.
This mans coming up with typings for future legends forms
👀
Great video!
Thanks so much dood!
I was initially gonna say poison for Intelleon but as soon as ghost came into the equation I was sold. Really love your choices here.
Thanks I appreciate the feedback!
Meganium should be grass and fairy, lol
Wow I literally agreed with every pick, good job.
Thanks lexy!
@@OKreations :D
I could see Typhlosion being Fire/Poison! Mainly due to the smoke/soot aspect of volcanic eruptions
Ngl, I also spat my drink out when I heard you cal Meganium a plesiosaur. Like, I get why you made the mistake but still, almost choked myself from giggling with my mouth full
Amazing😂 yeah I did NOT check that at all that’s on me lol, meant sauropod
honestly grass/dark on sceptile is fine cause he's fast and frail so at this point so have so many weaknesses doesn't really hurt its role in being a fast attacker/mix attacker but at the same time still feel it deserves the dragon typing
I agree with everything besides saying sceptile is underrated that guy gets so much love way too much but he deserves it
haha so fun that I got most of your added type are correct
I feel like Inteleon would make sense to be a Water/Psychic type, based on the description of how it analyzes it’s opponents and uses that to hit weak spots, it just feels a bit too psychic for me but i can see how the other types could work as well
For balancing out the Unova starters, I would give Samurott a steel type if Serperior has fairy type. Just how Emboar has Fighting type allready and its weaker to fairy which you to Serperior.
Remember that initial types are specifically set up to resist and be effective with each other.
Blastoise cannot be steel type because then it would no longer be weak to the plant and the triangle would break.
I would have put rock as secondary
oh, and it also loses fire resistance, so the triangle breaks even more.
again, rock would have been best.
I simply do not care about 4x weakness, if anything it helps as long as you have a resist or immunity in the back to pivot into, just requires some forethought to work around
Don't let the dummies in the comments get to you. This was a very fun, fresh, and creative video! Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much I appreciate it!
Meganium having Grass/Fairy sounds more likely though... Since most fairies are also associated with flowers...
& Serperior Grass/Dragon actually works since before gen 6 Dragons were portrayed to be the Royalty (Strongest) of all typings.
2:38 perfectly cut scream
Huh
It's funny how spp pointed out the gen 2 dual typings perfectly.
6:54 same dude it's sad
Dragon type for serperior would also work because dragons are said to resemble power, and evil like most overlords but I’m happy with fairy too.
The biggest issue with your idea for the Johto starters is that now Feraligatr has a massive advantage of having an easy 4x super effective moveset on both Typhlosion and Meganium, and they only get 2x max against it.
Those were great typings but heres what I would have preferred while keeping the balance of the secondary and primary typings of each starter trio.
Blastoise - Ice or Rock
Meganium - Psychic for gen 2 to 5 them Fairy for 6 and so on
Typhlosion - Ground
Ferraligatr - Dark
Sceptile - Dark or Steel
Serpirior - Poison
Samurott - Rock or Fighting if Emboar got a different secondary type
Rillaboom - Normal
Cinderace - Electric
Intellian - Ghost
Great video! Though, I think I'd swap Blastoise and Samurott as Water/Rock and Water/Steel respectively. I also think I'd make Typhlosion a Fire/Normal to contrast the Hisuian Fire/Ghost. Lastly, I think I'd make Cinderace a Fire/Electric, honestly. That was the typing I first thought of when Scorbunny was revealed
I think fire/fighting should never be used again on a starter. Make Cinderace Fire/Electric.
Sceptile being dark would that there would be 3 grass dark evolution lines in one generation. People thought having 3 fire fighting types spread across three gens was bad.
Meganium should be fairy in my opinion (also Meganium is a Brachiosaurus/Brontosaurus)
Cool video! I liked your choices, but here's what I would've done differently:
• I think Sceptile should get Flying because of it's high speed and wing-like appendages on its arms. It gets Acrobatics and Aerial Ace, both only by TM and not level-up, but they're both moves that somewhat define how I picture Sceptile fighting.
• I would've given Cinderace the Normal typing over Rillaboom. I think it fits it's aesthetic, and it gets a lot of Normal moves, like even more than it does Fire.
• I think Electric could make a cool typing for Rillaboom. I know the drums are wood, but I think the typing conveys it's usage of technology well, and it would make a Pokemon I find to be pretty bland more interesting. It doesn't get a single electric move, but that's the developer's problem, not mine lol.
• Intellion is difficult when taking moveset into account, but since it doesn't lean toward anything in particular regardless, I think either Dark, Psychic, or Flying would suit it thematically. Dark for the same reasons you gave it Ghost, the espionage just feels more Dark type to me. Psychic because of the "intelligence" aspect. Flying because it has that cape, and snipers generally go to higher vantage points to shoot, like it's Gigantamax form.
Hey thanks! Fun ideas! I think the normal Cinderace could work fine!
GameFreak got too obsessed with the "gun" part of Inteleon and gave them HA Sniper, Special move Snipe Shot and Gigantamax Sniper.
Instead of following the Spy with gadgets theme and giving them Ghost type with Infiltrator or something like that.
Serperior as a snake just needed the secondary Normal typing.
I honestly think that a Fire/Normal would fit Cinderace alot better, not to mention that it would be the first Normal type starter.
What typing I would give the Mono Starters
Blastoise - 💧/⚙️
Meganium - 🌿/🧚♀️
Typhlosion - 🔥/👊🏻
Feraligatr - 💧/🐉
Sceptile - 🌿/🐉
Serperior - 🌿/🐉
Samurott - 💧/👊🏻
I feel like fire fighting is a bit too repetitive.
Here’s my unique reason for serperior having the Grass fairy typing that I’d want it to have. The reason why is because Serperior is apparently based on the Fleur de lis, and in pokemon the move Fleur Cannon is a fairy type move. In fact it’s the fairy type equivalent of leaf storm and the often requested for serperior Draco meteor, perfect for use with it’s contratry ability.
Boom
Inteleon with Ghost-type gives me Starcraft Ghost vibes
its gmax even looks like a nuke cloud
I always thought of it like this:
Blastoise - Water/Steel
Meganium - Grass/Fairy
Typhlosion - Fire/Ground
Feraligatr - Water/Dark
Sceptile - Grass/Dragon
Samorout - Water/Steel
Serperior - Grass/Dark
Rillaboom - Grass/Fighting
Cinderace - Fire/Normal
Inteleon - Water/Ghost
I think everything on there makes a lot of sense except for Cinderace and maybe Sceptile
I would do the Galarian guys differently.
First off, Inteleon’s typing you gave it and reasoning is exactly the same as what I was thinking, Water/Ghost fits very well.
Cinderace, I’d make it Fire/Electric. The yellow accents on it. And while it only gets one electric type move, Electro Ball, I think that move alone makes it worth it. It kicks up the rock and it could either be Pyro or Electricity charging it. Give it some extra electric stab in Thunderpunch and Wild Charge and it’s solid.
Rillaboom would be Grass/Rock. I’d like to think the wood drum he beats on is petrified wood, making it too hard to break when the brute beats on it. And Grass/Rock is also just a really solid typing.
3:25 one could also argue that because feraligatr is a beastly creature and most beast-like Pokemon have the normal type, he could have the normal type.
What always bothers me when people are like "oh but if they had xyz type their learnset doesn't support the STAB outside of tms" well.. if the type *was* part of it they would have naturally gotten more of those moves since that is logical (I just ignoring lots of the very early gens lack of STAB for mons) so I'm glad you mostly took "vibes" into consideration and just said "yeah they don't currently have the moves but they'd get them"
I'm also glad you didn't do the "oh the Mega is xyz so we'll just slap that on" when.. Megas aren't even set in stone ie some replace types like Mega Charizard X or Mega Altaria while Mega Aggron *loses* Rock outright with no replacement.. so.. having Sceptile change actually still is perfectly logical
Personally I would have made Meganium the Grass/Fairy and Serperior the Grass/Dragon since.. Dragon still can be regal (have you SEEN the capes Lance and Clair wear and the outfit Iris has?!)
Did you seriously make Cinderace *another* Fire/Fighting?! Lol actually.. sure.. why not.. it at least had been a few gens (tbh that is why people were annoyed.. it was 3 gens in a row)
I literally talked about your two last points in my own comment 😂
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10000000000000% i hate when people use levelups/learnsets to argue against a type change like
it just makes no sense whatsoever
GF in general fucking sucks at making them fit or good anyways
@@doozsromhacks I mean, people ALSO use this tactic in favor of a type change as well. I'm not saying this, ALONE, should be enough; however, in some cases, the doubt can feel validated when paired with other elements
As a kid i always thought Feraligatr was part Dark Type
Imagine my surprise lol
I think inteleon would work better with psychic because of mind games and similar
We don't need no more fire/fighting types lol... I'd make Cinderace a Fire/Electric type cause his trailer had him running super fast 🐇💨
Moves: Wildcharge & Volt switch
In my opinion I don’t think something being fast automaticallly equals electric, I think this would require a design change
I like dual type Mons on average more than mono type ones, I would take almost all of these in an instant.
What you didn't take into account is that while a secondary Type Triangle isn't needed, what is needed is that the Type combination still results in the Pokémon being weak to at least one of its original counter's STAB Moves.
For example, Blastoise can't be Water/Steel, because then it wouldn't be weak to Venusaur (even immune to Poison).
That's why Empoleon works, because Torterra becomes Ground. (Same Stage, so Water/Steel Prinplup can't work either.)
However, anything else is fair, even being able to counter the Pokémon you're supposed to be weak to, as is the case with Torterra's Ground countering Infernape, Infernape's Fighting countering Empoleon (and even Fire no longer being resisted), and Meowscarada's Dark countering Skeledirge.
Also, Mega Charizard X and Mega Sceptile, due to their Dragon-Type, are no longer weak to the STABs of Blastoise and Blaziken respectively (even in their own Mega), thus proving that Mega Evolution allows the main rule to be bypassed.
So here's my pitch for different choices if they had to get a 2nd Type:
Blastoise: Water/Rock, but Mega Blastoise becomes Water/Steel.
Meganium: Grass/Psychic (due to the Screens, though will become even worse against Bugsy and Morty).
Samurott: Water/Fighting, while Emboar becomes Fire/Rock (for STAB Reckless Head Smash).
Hey thanks for the comment, I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. In my opinion, the type triangle BARELY matters by the time you and your rival(s) reach the final stage evolution. By that time, each trainer should have access to or already have caught pokemon to counter whatever type combo your starter has. Especially with the dragon typing tho, I could see delaying the final evo until 40 or 42 so the trainer has a more difficult time reaching that special typing and still having to struggle against the rival’s starter
I always felt cinderace should be fire lightning. Because soccer players are fast and rabbits are fast
I feel like something being fast isn’t enough to give electric ya know
I only have a basic knowledge of Pokemon, but I was surprised to learn just now that Blastoise isn't already water steel.
Feel like a weird omission right?
I think serperior with poison type which looks so good for that serpent
my opinion is
blastoise steel
typlosion ground
feragaltr dark
meganium fairy
sceptile dragon/normal
samurott rock/steel
serperior electric
cinderace electric
rillaboom fighting/normal
intelion ghost/dark
I’ve thrown dragon claw on every sceptile play through he’s always been a dragon in my head
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I would’ve had Inteleon be Wayer Psychic, Rillaboom as Grass Dark, and Cindersce as Fire Fighting, so there’s synergy between the secondary types as well
I think the problem with rillaboom is that there were a lot of “sound based” mons that were introduced in the same generation that would have probably justified the addition of the “sound” type, and without that it’s hard to figure out a backup type since it wasn’t added
Great list but I feel like just based of movepools and abilities, Meganium should be Grass-Psychic, and Sceptile should be Grass-Electric. Meganium learns a bunch of psychic support moves like reflect lightscreen heal pulse and rest, Im also pretty sure that aside from grass and normal it gets the most psychic moves. For Scpetile, once it mega evolves its ability becomes lightning rod, and although it doesnt get much electric moves I feel like it fits more with the design of sceptile (it has those glowy yellow things on the back and the tree tail can be used to absorb electric moves)
when i first saw inteleon i thought it was a bug type because of its appearance lol
In Gen 2 we have the best types that match the pokemon
Typhlosion Fire/Ground or Psychic (it gets extrassensory and will match with the type combo and weakness)
Meganium Grass/Fairy
Feraligtr Water/Dark
Hey thanks for the comment I appreciate it! Unfortunately I don’t see psychic for Typhlosion in its design, could you explain that more?
I truly hope Rillaboom’s 3D model gets updated in later games. That sprite work of it tells me it’s a great design that got failed by the art direction of the game
Fairy fits better in meganium
What's the name of the song at the beginning? I know it's front eh games but can't remember or find the name for the life of me!
Driftveil city!
Thank you! It was on the top of my brain but I just couldn't remember lol
No worries!
Serperior is like a regal serpent, like the serpent king the basilisk. So automatically grass dragon or grass poison.
Imo regal makes me think of fairy too
I'd say Fire/Electric Cinderace would fit as well. To emphasize the speed of its running. Especially with it learning Electro Ball. You can give it Wild Charge as well to reverence the wild tackles and slide kicks sometimes given in football (soccer for the murican folk).
I don’t really think it being fast means it should be electric imo
@@OKreations :(
4:40 fun fact, according to an interview charizard, was going to be a dragon type, but because of balancing, he is fire flying now
Also why no grass fairy?
Oh interesting! No grass fairy for meganium? Just thought dragon fit better!
The only things that I disagree with here are the typings of Serperior and Meganium. I think that Meganium fits fairy type was more and Serperior fits dragon so much better. Dragon is a far more regal type imo and Serperior literally looks like a grass type dragonair
Fair enough!
Typhlosion would be a beast as fire/normal and one I don’t see many people talk about here is intellion being water/psychic
I totally agree with water steel blastoise but some debate on the fact that venusaur wouldn't have a stab supereffective option against it.
"Cinderace hits his opponents with flaming rocks. Let's make him Fire/Fighting!"
Yeah you lost me.
I said a little more than that but cool haha
@OKreations Even so, before Gen 8 we had the the slew of Fire fighting types between Blaziken, Infernape, and Emboar, and even though Incinaroar is a Dark type he might as well be a Fighting type as a wrestler.
Another Fire Fighting type is the last thing we want
Yeah but like it wasn’t, I’d say a gap of two gens is good enough😂