What's the point of it? I mean, if Chopin had done this, we'd probably accept it as suitable without a comment. But Chopin wrote semiquavers in the left hand for this passage rewritten by Liszt, and I am just wondering why he did it. It may be a bit easier to play, but I'm sure Liszt didn't need to worry about making things easier to play. Probably Chopin's semiquavers are more effective. If you consider the three times this theme appears, you notice that the accompaniment is just quavers the first time, and quadruplets the second time (this time in E minor rather than B minor), and semiquavers the last time, with the faster accompaniment making for a good climactic ending. This is a good scheme, and I would not consider playing Liszt's version.
"a bit easier to play", I consider this to be slightly more harder that chopin despite the odd 5:3 polyrhythm and the ridiculous left hand leaps after it, and the point of this well this was one from the evidence that liszt also used to improvise on other people's compositons on his concerts however despite how structured the variant is with the quintuplets and left hand leaps you may expect liszt performing this passage in a very theatrical way like we can see portraited in some films, consider this passage to be a lot more powerful but the pianist here kinda thrown the power all away making it lack of the main power from the original piece being evoked in this variant, this may not be the cup of the for anyone else and they would prefer chopin's original passage but that is fine, I just wanted to share this curious variant since there was people who were expecting the closest thing we have from a chopin piece featuring liszt lol
Interestingly, the repeated chords from bars 246 onwards are somewhat reminiscent of a specific section of Chopin's Cello sonata (towards the end of the 1st movement)
@@douwemusic lol my apologies, I was pretty focused on composing quite recently that I forgot to read the emails from most of people, I'll share it to y'all, sorry for making you wait for so long xd
3:41 - if you're looking for Liszt's variation
What's the point of it? I mean, if Chopin had done this, we'd probably accept it as suitable without a comment. But Chopin wrote semiquavers in the left hand for this passage rewritten by Liszt, and I am just wondering why he did it. It may be a bit easier to play, but I'm sure Liszt didn't need to worry about making things easier to play. Probably Chopin's semiquavers are more effective. If you consider the three times this theme appears, you notice that the accompaniment is just quavers the first time, and quadruplets the second time (this time in E minor rather than B minor), and semiquavers the last time, with the faster accompaniment making for a good climactic ending. This is a good scheme, and I would not consider playing Liszt's version.
"a bit easier to play", I consider this to be slightly more harder that chopin despite the odd 5:3 polyrhythm and the ridiculous left hand leaps after it, and the point of this well this was one from the evidence that liszt also used to improvise on other people's compositons on his concerts however despite how structured the variant is with the quintuplets and left hand leaps you may expect liszt performing this passage in a very theatrical way like we can see portraited in some films, consider this passage to be a lot more powerful but the pianist here kinda thrown the power all away making it lack of the main power from the original piece being evoked in this variant, this may not be the cup of the for anyone else and they would prefer chopin's original passage but that is fine, I just wanted to share this curious variant since there was people who were expecting the closest thing we have from a chopin piece featuring liszt lol
Thanks
the liszt version kind of reminds me of early scriabin / rachmaninoff
Interesting.
As a good composer and a teacher, it’s a good way to simplifying and rewriting a piece without totally ruining it for your students.
Thanks to you, I became happy!
Interestingly, the repeated chords from bars 246 onwards are somewhat reminiscent of a specific section of Chopin's Cello sonata (towards the end of the 1st movement)
Chopin 🥁 Liszt 🥁
Very Chopin
Liszt is very Chopin
Very skibidi
@@PencilMate_Schize_bwtf
It's quite interesting that the result is a kind of writing very similar to Scriabin
There’s a typo on measure 246.
Can someone tell me more about this variation of Liszt?
Liszt mogged Chopin with this
real
you’re the first person to play it, should I play the original version first or skip to this one?
nvm I just read the description.
Interesting! I'm playing Chopin's original.
Where could I get a copy of the score of Liszt's arrangement?
@@peterchan6082 feel free to email me (abner.271107@gmail.com) or you can send me your email and I'll share you the file :D
@@PencilMate_Schize_bHey! I emailed you two weeks ago for the score and was wondering if you'd be able to send it 😃
@@douwemusic lol my apologies, I was pretty focused on composing quite recently that I forgot to read the emails from most of people, I'll share it to y'all, sorry for making you wait for so long xd
@@PencilMate_Schize_b How dare you make me, a complete stranger, wait for my free sheet music. Jk thank you so much for sending it 😄😄
Its cool but not as good…
@@IndigoDellaBadia that depends on the taste from the other people tbh
Exactly what I thought 👍
I can barely make out the difference to the original.
No, just no. Stick to what he wrote, this ruins the very sophisticated writing you find in op 58
liszt being liszt
Nerd
Meh. An un-magic performance, unenthusiastically received. At least I can say I've heard it.
may I ask you what does "junque de junque" means?, kinda curious to know about lol