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Good job describing the difference between the to types of bikes. I have to agree with you. I have a Honda NC700X that I have used as a adventure bike but I cant lift it when I drop it because I have back problems and I am 71 years old. So now the Honda CRF300L Rally is my Adv bike and I may sell the 700.
@@DontPanic4422 I like it on the highway it works just fine for me. The seat is hard but I don't like riding more than two hours with out a stop. I am going to upgrade the suspension for sure. It is way to soft for carrying a load but everything else is great 👍
I got the Africa Twin Adventure Sport ES as my first bike, now after owning it a year, I realize I don't need something that expensive for what I want/need to do. But live and learn. Thanks for the video!
DRZ 400S owner here. I've been evaluating my primary form of riding recently. I have cancelled my plan to buy a T7. This is partly because I don't need three bikes, plus I prefer off-highway riding, which the DRZ will do quite well for the type of riding I do. It has served me well since I bought it in 2006. For higher elevations (Colorado riding) and more fun on trails, I have a KTM 450 EXC-F.
I have a 2023 CRF 450RX ( road legal ) and a R1250GS … I ask, because Im tempted to buy a dirt bike , but with a bigger tank than than my CRF 450 RX ! (And the ability to carry a tent )
The chart on-screen w/ the cam footage behind is a nice touch! *Never seen done, before* Gives us visual learners a way to keep tabs while being entertained.
I haven't ridden bikes for around 35 years, and as I live in a rural area in South Africa I bought a small 150 echo tr. Which is a trail version of a road bike. Not quite a Duel sport but loving it most of my riding is 50/50 dirt roads and tar with a few single track hooligan rides. Being 60 (my late-midlife crisis after surviving a bout of cancer) I thought I would get cheap just incase I didnt get back into it. The bug has bitten, now I would love to get something a little bigger once the budget allows. But for now I am loving my little "duel sport" and would definitely go for a true duel sport next time.
Totally agree and do the same every time! Way to go Andrew! Love your content, delivery, video skills commentary and awesome narration! Thank for all you do!!
Luv my Rally! And now with Tusk Dsport tires, that in my opinion work great both off road as they do on road on this light weight bike, it’s the perfect bike for me... I don’t mind a little humming noise coming from my tires, and the cost of these tires is so inexpensive compared to other tires that are not quite as versatile, I don’t mind spending $130 for a new set when the time comes. Even though I wish this bike was slightly lighter considering it’s power output, I consider the Rally to be more of a dual sport than I do an adventure bike. A dual sport with a little bit more comfort on the road compared to most of the other dual sports in its class. I can see the suspension, exhaust, and fuel mapping, all getting modified in the future, but for right now I’ll ride it like it is until I can afford those things. I’m not racing anyone, but I can definitely go ANYWHERE in the world on it, right now the way that it is, that I might want to go.
That's a great point, I have people in my ear telling me not to get a dualsport because it's "too dirt bike", "buy a bmw gs" and I truly feel the crf300L fits the bill for me perfectly, infact, I ordered a crf300L and im playing the waiting game, sure, I'd enjoy a GS, but I don't plan to travel much on it, I plan to pretty much stay offroad and commute to work that's 3 miles from my house. Also too, this isn't my first dual sport by any means, the last was a ktm 350 exc-f and it worked great for my needs, which is primarily, fun. Excellent work on the video btw 🤘
"I may have a problem, I know." Having multiple motorcycles is a darned good problem to have! I'm envious. Another great video, Andrew. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on an XT250 vs. the CRF300L as a first dual sport.
XR650L here. I always loved Honda dirt bikes. To ride a dirt bike with blinkers on the road is awesome. I use it for work and just about anything and anywhere. Fill bad for my HD cause it just sits 😂. Great explanation and trail on!
Good video and reasonable point of view. I was struggling to have just one bike for both dual sport and adv riding. After many bikes tried (XT660Z, F800GS, F850GS, CRF250Rally) I ended up with a 701 with rally tower for wind protection. And I have to say, so far so good!
@@MotorcyclesOffroad yes, they do - it is called 701 LR (Long Range). But even the standard one is capable of 250-280km on one tank, so for European riders it is more than enough, as there is a petrol station every other corner here. And it is lighter (actually, 2kg lighter than my 250 Rally).
Big fan of the Suzuki DR650 (my previous ride), DRZ400, and my current ride the DRZ250. Each one of these are dual sports that do well as daily rides, weekend trail bikes and holiday adventure bikes.
The way I define an adventure bike is such: Does it have a fairing, that when dropped will most likely break? Adventure bike Does it have dirt bike style plastics that are very resistant to breaking on drops? Dual sport. KLR650 is an adventure bike, CRF300L is a dual sport but the Rally version is an adventure bike, the DR650 is a dual sport.
My GS is a wonderful machine for multiple days on the road & an occasional gravel track. After getting stuck in a remote sand wash I limit the off road to places you would take a Subaru. More than that is time for a 350/500 DS
The exhaust routing and muffler position is the tell tale for a road orientated bike, dual sports look more off-road capable but generally have suspension tuned more for the road. Personally, and probably obvious from my previous comments, I’m firmly in the road legal dirt bike camp.
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I wouldn't really consider the 300l Rally to be an ADV bike, it's still very much a dual sport, just with a few extra concessions for long-distance road rides than a typical dual sport. I think that "bikes that I could use for adventure rides" are different from "adventure bikes". You could put bags and a larger fuel tank onto an enduro bike and take it on an adventure, but it's not an adventure bike. You're right that weight alone isn't the determining factor either. Bikes like the DR650 & KLR650 are big and heavy, but they're still super-sized dual sports, not adventure bikes. Personally I like to think about the "genealogy" of bikes when thinking about the categories. The adventure bike category evolved out of the sport touring category, not the dual-sport category. The Versys 650 is a budget, mid-sized sport touring bike, but if you put a bigger front tire, better suspension and ground clearance on it, ta-da, it's an adventure bike. So to me an "adventure bike" is a sport touring bike with a few extra design concessions for off-roading. These dual-sports with extra concessions for the road like the 300l Rally and KLR 650 are trying to attack a similar problem from a different direction, so I feel like they are their own thing that is still much closer to the traditional dual sport.
Helped with my research into finding a bike suitable for a senior like me wanting to explore gravel, fsr and trail routes for bikepacking adventures. Petty well set on a 250-300 dual sport in the 300lb range. Now to find one 2nd hand.
Best combo is a two stroke pure off road bike, a dual sport for legal trail/pavement and a sport tour for the road. Add in a sport bike if track days are in your program.
That is awesome, I was riding a WR250 this past weekend. Im going to do a side by side video on it and the 300L. I used to have one but that was before I got the 300L and I wanted to give it another try back to back.
Depends on time in the saddle. Dual sports suck on the highway or any trip over 60 miles on the pavement. And adventure bikes suck in the dirt, compared to a dual sport. Where you ride the most, and is the more important aspect of your riding, controls. I ride a dual sport and dont ride it unless it is to the dirt and back. I accept that limitation as dirt is more important to me..just saving trucking the bike to the woods. If i wanted to take weekend trips, carry a passenger, or luggage I would have to live with an Adv. bike. Which is basically what you said. Good job!
I never really thought of the CRF300L Rally as an adventure bike. More as a dual sport that was a bit more road competent. I don't think it will have the ride of a heavy adventure bike, so maybe it straddles the line.
It really depends on The Adventure. There are quite a few people who used little CRF to go RTW and that bike proved to be a good tool for that. Itchy Boots is travelling now from Colombia to Alaska on 300 Rally. And I used 250 Rally for a two week long ride in Kyrgyzstan. So I believe the 250/300 Rally could be a decent adventure bike. Cheers!
Great video I agree whatever bike works for you is the bike you should ride I have a dual sport modified for ADV so still not perfect by far but it works for me and i love it . So for me my XR is a perfect do all things pretty good bike . Also I really believe you should be able to pick up your bike by yourself. ""RIDE ON""
I really like your content..I have a wr250r and love it also have a klr650..just landed a tenere 700 to replace the klr650..the wr250r is for single track and the tenere will be used for traveling and moto camping and stuff like that
I was thinking about a Cb500x for my first bike since I wanna do mostly onroad but also a little off as well. I figured that it'd do until I could get a full dirt bike later on. (maybe the tenere 700 or a honda crf?) Thoughts?
@@MotorcyclesOffroad I wanted the AT so bad but I think the t7 is more realistic for what I’ll do. I want to do multi day long range camp trips so the AT seems bad ass but i I don’t have the time for that anyways lol. So the t7 for 1-3 night camp trips within like 2 hours of home. I can do those trips a lot.
I have a late model CRF250L I have done a few mods to and really enjoy riding. However I only have room in my life right now for 1 bike. Since most my riding these days is 70 / 30 road / dirt I am thinking a T700 would be a better fit if it wasn’t so expensive…
It is great for that but it is a hard bike to manage for a lot of people. I would say the best bike for what you are describing would be a DR650 it does both well and has a ton of torque, if you find yourself missing 6th gear add one tooth to the front sprocket and it will be far better then the 250L on the road/highway and only weight 10% more when it is full of the 3gallon gas tank. For the 10% you get 2x the horsepower and about 2.5x the torque as well as the same seat height on both bikes.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad appreciate your insight. Bang for buck that sounds like a much better option. You have fixed “potential” 6th gear issue with DR650 only other issue is carb. I have a preference for EFI these days. Do you think this “really” matters? Cheers
@@888jimmy well fuel injection is nice not having to warm up you bike ever. But the really thing is do you have great changes in elevation. For example 5000 ft above sea level to 10000. If so because of lack of air the bike can run more lean at great changes in elevation.
Coming up on 2000 miles on my wr250r, I love it and will never sell it but I’m starting to realize I that I like the on road more than the off-road. Blasphemous I know, but I think the second bike it going to be a scrambler or a cruiser strictly for on road riding.
Yeah don't sell it. You will ride on the road for a while then miss offroad. I choose my Tenere as like a 80-90% on road bike because I love the seated upright position and I can still do some stuff offroad with it. Also it's great for motocamping.
If I could find a Tenere for msrp I’d go the same route as you but that’s basically impossible so the used Ducati’s scramblers or middle weight nakeds have my attention.
@@MotorcyclesOffroadI know this comment was from a year ago but that’s what based was saying. The T7 is more geared towards the dirt than your average adv bike. So they meant it should be something like a Tiger 900 GT as an example.
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I promise you that's Not true.......you're NOT climbing out of vertical ditches with a 650, or hill climbing or doing single track and Keeping up with 400cc or 250's, I don't care what you say.
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Good job describing the difference between the to types of bikes. I have to agree with you. I have a Honda NC700X that I have used as a adventure bike but I cant lift it when I drop it because I have back problems and I am 71 years old. So now the Honda CRF300L Rally is my Adv bike and I may sell the 700.
I bet the rally is so much more manageable.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad yes very much so.
@@DontPanic4422 I like it on the highway it works just fine for me. The seat is hard but I don't like riding more than two hours with out a stop. I am going to upgrade the suspension for sure. It is way to soft for carrying a load but everything else is great 👍
I got the Africa Twin Adventure Sport ES as my first bike, now after owning it a year, I realize I don't need something that expensive for what I want/need to do.
But live and learn.
Thanks for the video!
DRZ 400S owner here. I've been evaluating my primary form of riding recently. I have cancelled my plan to buy a T7. This is partly because I don't need three bikes, plus I prefer off-highway riding, which the DRZ will do quite well for the type of riding I do. It has served me well since I bought it in 2006. For higher elevations (Colorado riding) and more fun on trails, I have a KTM 450 EXC-F.
Is the DRZ total crap, when compared to the fabulous EXC-F ? Serious question
I have a 2023 CRF 450RX ( road legal ) and a R1250GS …
I ask, because Im tempted to buy a dirt bike , but with a bigger tank than than my CRF 450 RX ! (And the ability to carry a tent )
The chart on-screen w/ the cam footage behind is a nice touch! *Never seen done, before* Gives us visual learners a way to keep tabs while being entertained.
I haven't ridden bikes for around 35 years, and as I live in a rural area in South Africa I bought a small 150 echo tr. Which is a trail version of a road bike. Not quite a Duel sport but loving it most of my riding is 50/50 dirt roads and tar with a few single track hooligan rides. Being 60 (my late-midlife crisis after surviving a bout of cancer) I thought I would get cheap just incase I didnt get back into it. The bug has bitten, now I would love to get something a little bigger once the budget allows. But for now I am loving my little "duel sport" and would definitely go for a true duel sport next time.
I'm a simple man. I see a new video from MotorcyclesOffroad, I hit "Like"
Haha well thank you, I am glad you enjoy the content. I had an awesome weekend, We were out in some really deep sand.
Totally agree and do the same every time! Way to go Andrew! Love your content, delivery, video skills commentary and awesome narration! Thank for all you do!!
Happiness, the ultimate goal Andrew. So true.
Thanks, I hope you enjoyed your weekend.
Luv my Rally! And now with Tusk Dsport tires, that in my opinion work great both off road as they do on road on this light weight bike, it’s the perfect bike for me... I don’t mind a little humming noise coming from my tires, and the cost of these tires is so inexpensive compared to other tires that are not quite as versatile, I don’t mind spending $130 for a new set when the time comes. Even though I wish this bike was slightly lighter considering it’s power output, I consider the Rally to be more of a dual sport than I do an adventure bike. A dual sport with a little bit more comfort on the road compared to most of the other dual sports in its class. I can see the suspension, exhaust, and fuel mapping, all getting modified in the future, but for right now I’ll ride it like it is until I can afford those things. I’m not racing anyone, but I can definitely go ANYWHERE in the world on it, right now the way that it is, that I might want to go.
That's a great point, I have people in my ear telling me not to get a dualsport because it's "too dirt bike", "buy a bmw gs" and I truly feel the crf300L fits the bill for me perfectly, infact, I ordered a crf300L and im playing the waiting game, sure, I'd enjoy a GS, but I don't plan to travel much on it, I plan to pretty much stay offroad and commute to work that's 3 miles from my house. Also too, this isn't my first dual sport by any means, the last was a ktm 350 exc-f and it worked great for my needs, which is primarily, fun. Excellent work on the video btw 🤘
"I may have a problem, I know." Having multiple motorcycles is a darned good problem to have! I'm envious. Another great video, Andrew. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on an XT250 vs. the CRF300L as a first dual sport.
Funny you should ask that, I did that that video, well kinda. ruclips.net/video/HlEbOJNwRyw/видео.html
XR650L here. I always loved Honda dirt bikes. To ride a dirt bike with blinkers on the road is awesome. I use it for work and just about anything and anywhere. Fill bad for my HD cause it just sits 😂. Great explanation and trail on!
Good video and reasonable point of view. I was struggling to have just one bike for both dual sport and adv riding. After many bikes tried (XT660Z, F800GS, F850GS, CRF250Rally) I ended up with a 701 with rally tower for wind protection. And I have to say, so far so good!
My next bike is going to be a husqvarna fe350..
701 is an amazing bike, they have a long range version too right? one with a bigger tank?
@@MotorcyclesOffroad yes, they do - it is called 701 LR (Long Range). But even the standard one is capable of 250-280km on one tank, so for European riders it is more than enough, as there is a petrol station every other corner here. And it is lighter (actually, 2kg lighter than my 250 Rally).
Big fan of the Suzuki DR650 (my previous ride), DRZ400, and my current ride the DRZ250. Each one of these are dual sports that do well as daily rides, weekend trail bikes and holiday adventure bikes.
My CRF300L is in the garage still looking pretty...still too much snow in the trails to go riding! I can't wait to try this off road!
I ride a 1996 dr650 daily and let me tell you, personally I think it’s the best of both worlds!
The way I define an adventure bike is such:
Does it have a fairing, that when dropped will most likely break? Adventure bike
Does it have dirt bike style plastics that are very resistant to breaking on drops? Dual sport.
KLR650 is an adventure bike, CRF300L is a dual sport but the Rally version is an adventure bike, the DR650 is a dual sport.
KLX 250 owner here. Great video. I was thinking of going ADV now I am sticking with the Dually
I honestly have more fun on Dual sports.
My GS is a wonderful machine for multiple days on the road & an occasional gravel track. After getting stuck in a remote sand wash I limit the off road to places you would take a Subaru. More than that is time for a 350/500 DS
Maintenance is also a reason to select what it is you are happy with.
The exhaust routing and muffler position is the tell tale for a road orientated bike, dual sports look more off-road capable but generally have suspension tuned more for the road. Personally, and probably obvious from my previous comments, I’m firmly in the road legal dirt bike camp.
Agree with your approach!
2013 Drz 400, 2020 husky TE300 TPI, 2009 harley sporty , 1979 rm125, 1980 pe175, 1983 kx250, 2003 pw80 (because why not). Next bike in the stable will be the teneree. Can never have too many
I wouldn't really consider the 300l Rally to be an ADV bike, it's still very much a dual sport, just with a few extra concessions for long-distance road rides than a typical dual sport.
I think that "bikes that I could use for adventure rides" are different from "adventure bikes". You could put bags and a larger fuel tank onto an enduro bike and take it on an adventure, but it's not an adventure bike. You're right that weight alone isn't the determining factor either. Bikes like the DR650 & KLR650 are big and heavy, but they're still super-sized dual sports, not adventure bikes.
Personally I like to think about the "genealogy" of bikes when thinking about the categories. The adventure bike category evolved out of the sport touring category, not the dual-sport category. The Versys 650 is a budget, mid-sized sport touring bike, but if you put a bigger front tire, better suspension and ground clearance on it, ta-da, it's an adventure bike.
So to me an "adventure bike" is a sport touring bike with a few extra design concessions for off-roading. These dual-sports with extra concessions for the road like the 300l Rally and KLR 650 are trying to attack a similar problem from a different direction, so I feel like they are their own thing that is still much closer to the traditional dual sport.
Helped with my research into finding a bike suitable for a senior like me wanting to explore gravel, fsr and trail routes for bikepacking adventures. Petty well set on a 250-300 dual sport in the 300lb range. Now to find one 2nd hand.
Best combo is a two stroke pure off road bike, a dual sport for legal trail/pavement and a sport tour for the road. Add in a sport bike if track days are in your program.
haha now I need 4 bikes! lmao it is addicting.
Great description of the spectrum of dual sport and adventure bikes. I ride a WR250R and a VStrom 1000XT Adventure. I’d like a 3rd bike too!🤣
That is awesome, I was riding a WR250 this past weekend. Im going to do a side by side video on it and the 300L. I used to have one but that was before I got the 300L and I wanted to give it another try back to back.
I like the graph and scale method for your opinions. Really lets me know what I'm looking at.
Glad you liked it.
I know the trails around me(Virginia) you have to have a street legal bike to ride the trails on government lands so duel sport is what I’m leaning to
I'm quite jealous of those trails! I also make videos on a CRF250L. Subbed to see more💪💪
Depends on time in the saddle. Dual sports suck on the highway or any trip over 60 miles on the pavement. And adventure bikes suck in the dirt, compared to a dual sport. Where you ride the most, and is the more important aspect of your riding, controls. I ride a dual sport and dont ride it unless it is to the dirt and back. I accept that limitation as dirt is more important to me..just saving trucking the bike to the woods. If i wanted to take weekend trips, carry a passenger, or luggage I would have to live with an Adv. bike. Which is basically what you said. Good job!
awesome vid I wished I watched this before my 300l purchase to make me feel more confident. I got the right bike though. that's for sure
I never really thought of the CRF300L Rally as an adventure bike. More as a dual sport that was a bit more road competent. I don't think it will have the ride of a heavy adventure bike, so maybe it straddles the line.
It really depends on The Adventure. There are quite a few people who used little CRF to go RTW and that bike proved to be a good tool for that. Itchy Boots is travelling now from Colombia to Alaska on 300 Rally.
And I used 250 Rally for a two week long ride in Kyrgyzstan. So I believe the 250/300 Rally could be a decent adventure bike. Cheers!
Lol she started in like chile. She really shows the adventure side of that bike.
Great video I agree whatever bike works for you is the bike you should ride I have a dual sport modified for ADV so still not perfect by far but it works for me and i love it . So for me my XR is a perfect do all things pretty good bike . Also I really believe you should be able to pick up your bike by yourself. ""RIDE ON""
Hey man thanks for the comment. What bike did you say you have? Xr650?
There's a lot of wisdom in this vid...
Great video bro. Great format, great information
Thank you, glad you enjoyed.
Spot on my dude, well said!
Thank you! I am glad you enjoyed the video.
Thank you very much!
No problem, glad you enjoyed
An important main point is whether you can go alone or not and how deep can you go^^
I really like your content..I have a wr250r and love it also have a klr650..just landed a tenere 700 to replace the klr650..the wr250r is for single track and the tenere will be used for traveling and moto camping and stuff like that
As for weather I'm in spokane Washington and it's 40 degrees and raining
I was thinking about a Cb500x for my first bike since I wanna do mostly onroad but also a little off as well. I figured that it'd do until I could get a full dirt bike later on. (maybe the tenere 700 or a honda crf?) Thoughts?
With the cb500 you can't go wrong. It's a great smooth first bike.
Actually the KTM runs a 19/17 so it's slightly better than double 17s for off-road. The cast rims are definitely scary though on real off road.
You had me at Tenere 700 lol
Great video.
THank you.
You should do a CRF300L, CRF450L and XR650 comparison
That would be cool but I dont know anyone with the 650 lol
Love my drz but I also want a T7 or Africa twin.
I would say get the T7 everyone I know with the twin wish they waited for the Tenere.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad I wanted the AT so bad but I think the t7 is more realistic for what I’ll do. I want to do multi day long range camp trips so the AT seems bad ass but i I don’t have the time for that anyways lol. So the t7 for 1-3 night camp trips within like 2 hours of home. I can do those trips a lot.
you forgot the Brozz 250 :(
I have a late model CRF250L I have done a few mods to and really enjoy riding. However I only have room in my life right now for 1 bike. Since most my riding these days is 70 / 30 road / dirt I am thinking a T700 would be a better fit if it wasn’t so expensive…
It is great for that but it is a hard bike to manage for a lot of people. I would say the best bike for what you are describing would be a DR650 it does both well and has a ton of torque, if you find yourself missing 6th gear add one tooth to the front sprocket and it will be far better then the 250L on the road/highway and only weight 10% more when it is full of the 3gallon gas tank. For the 10% you get 2x the horsepower and about 2.5x the torque as well as the same seat height on both bikes.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad appreciate your insight. Bang for buck that sounds like a much better option. You have fixed “potential” 6th gear issue with DR650 only other issue is carb. I have a preference for EFI these days. Do you think this “really” matters? Cheers
@@888jimmy well fuel injection is nice not having to warm up you bike ever. But the really thing is do you have great changes in elevation. For example 5000 ft above sea level to 10000. If so because of lack of air the bike can run more lean at great changes in elevation.
Coming up on 2000 miles on my wr250r, I love it and will never sell it but I’m starting to realize I that I like the on road more than the off-road. Blasphemous I know, but I think the second bike it going to be a scrambler or a cruiser strictly for on road riding.
Yeah don't sell it. You will ride on the road for a while then miss offroad. I choose my Tenere as like a 80-90% on road bike because I love the seated upright position and I can still do some stuff offroad with it. Also it's great for motocamping.
If I could find a Tenere for msrp I’d go the same route as you but that’s basically impossible so the used Ducati’s scramblers or middle weight nakeds have my attention.
@@TheCarpCommander do you think T7’s will still be hard to find by next winter or spring?
@@airadaimagery692 the way everything has been the last couple years who knows when it’s going to settle out again.
I need a CRF300L
Its a fun little bike, I was ripping through sandy trails all weekend on it.
i have the CRF 1000L and 300L 😃🖖
I dont think the Tenere700 is the best example of a ADV/more road oriented bike. Its not in the exact middle but its closer to the middle.
I disagree completely, The Tenere is one of the most non road oriented adventure bikes there is out there.
@@MotorcyclesOffroadI know this comment was from a year ago but that’s what based was saying. The T7 is more geared towards the dirt than your average adv bike. So they meant it should be something like a Tiger 900 GT as an example.
Yeah I think I misread what was being said.
I need to commute on 5 mph roads
TW200
I need a Bike with a PTO for my plow, log splitter, and sump pump
TW200
I need to ford water greater than 10 feet deep
TW200
I need something that me and my fellow Amish friends can talk about by the fire
TW200
The DR650 can do anything depending on how you mod it.
I promise you that's Not true.......you're NOT climbing out of vertical ditches with a 650, or hill climbing or doing single track and Keeping up with 400cc or 250's, I don't care what you say.