I Bought Banned Woodworking Tools
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2024
- I Bought Banned Woodworking Tools
Woodworking can be dangerous, some tools are seen as so dangerous they're banned. So i found a few and bought them! I Also test out a woodworking technique that has killed 33 people!
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Fun video of things I'll never try. You are backwards on ground. You don't want to be grounded, you want to be insulated from ground because you don't want to be part of the path to ground. The rubber mat is insulating you from ground.
Maybe thats the reason why people die doing this. They think they should ground themselves instead of putting additional isolation between them and the ground.
@@JollyJokester I mean people do stupid stuff all the time because it's fun, myself included. I think John practiced what my friends and I refer to as "smart stupid" which is basically when you take reasonable safety precautions to do something dumb because it's fun. John the right steps, he just had the concept of ground backwards or at least his desired relationship with ground backwards. My guess is the people who died doing it practice stupid stupid, doing something dumb because it's fun, but without any safety precautions.
Came here to say this.
In the case of using a microwave transformer, the fact that you are grounded or not makes no difference. A microwave transformer is effectively an isolating transformer. The high voltage winding is not referenced to ground!
@@GrandadTinkerer Yeah, I was shooting for not being too nerdy, something I'm seldom good at :-)... I should have said you don't want to be part of the path from higher potential to lower potential. In the way John was talking about it, he clearly meant earth ground, but you are right. Any meaningful difference in potential you involve yourself in is bad news. I'll add ground is a pretty poorly understood concept, which is often used as a somewhat magical shorthand for lower potential. Grady over at Practical Engineering has as good a dive into grounds as I've seen called "Where Does Grounded Electricity Actually Go?" It's worth the watch
“Me and the team researched this for a couple of hours”
Cut to clip of John “you were supposed to research this shit!”
14:30 For anyone wondering, the woman’s name is Anne Reardon. She’s an Australian content creator and owner of the channel How to Cook That. The warning video itself was actually taken down by RUclips because it advocated harmful activity.
Just so no one misunderstands OP, her video wasn’t promoting anything, RUclips just cited that as the reason for removal. She was actually actively and vehemently warning people about how dangerous it was and telling them NOT to try it because it was killing people.
I found ironic that they struck her video where she warns people and brings attention to the issue of YT refusing to remove the fractal videos, but then continue to refuse to remove the actual fractal burning videos stating they don’t break guidelines.
@@nickyn1083Thank you for the clarification. I watched the video before YT took it down, and made sure to watch it again when she was allowed to repost it. The amount of people who decided against fractal woodburning after watching her video is insanely high, and thank goodness for that!
YT finally reinstated the video, but yeah, its insane they removed it but left all the really dangerous ones up.
For all the talk of not being a Safety Sally you're the only person on the internet I've ever seen unplug a power tool before putting their hand on the blade. No one has accidents intentionally and I think it's really good that you kept the practical, doesn't cost you nothing, safety steps in so that people can see what it looks like and how effortless it is.
I came damn close to an injury once by not unplugging, I learned my lesson the easy way with out injury and unplug everytime now
I unplug shit before working with the motor or blade.
If I'm cutting steel for 12 hrs I'm not unplugging my metabo every time I wear out a disk. I just stay the fuck away from the activation lever.
I unplug all the time for a number of reasons. 1. My dad taught me to. And most of my big tools are very old with easily bumped power switches. 2. I work for a company that is fanatical about lock out/tag out. And 3. (most importantly) I used to work with a guy who lost his right arm mid-forearm because he didn't practice LO/TO.
As someone who works with electricity and has made videos doing this with a microwave transformer, your terminology was way off. That doesn't really matter because the message of the video was still well recieved; if you don't know what you're doing, don't do it.
This video clearly demonstrates the level of ignorance that generally surrounds electricity. That's what kills people. Fooling around with a high voltage source and a conductive fluid, what could possibly go wrong? Well quite a bit actually. But let's go outside on the damp ground just to be safe.
I chuckled a little every time he said he was making sure he was grounded as he stepped on an insulating material. Nothing he against him he is a woodworker, not an electrician.
This.. I agree with this!
I am not an electrician, In fact my profession was in IT and while I did mostly networking and PC/Sever Hardware, I have a varied past starting college for Forestry and Wildlife Management before switching majors to Network Systems and Security after I saw how many people were in the classes and having a general understanding of the limited number of positions available in that field. I only state this for reference purposes of my background and professional knowledge.
I believe that a lot a incidents/accidents are due to ignorance or general stupidity of the human population who do not put out effort to learn anything about or understand anything outside of the rather limited amount of things that they do or deal with on a daily basis. I also believe that as a society we have dumbed things down to a point where no one takes responsibility for themselves or their actions and require warning labels for things that at one time might have been considered common sense. I believe that society as circumvented the principles of Darwinism where problems actually removed themselves from the picture allowing those problems to multiple exponentially over the last couple of centuries.
Now with that said, in my desire to learn and understand things better or at least confirm the things I believe I know and understand, the main reasoning for using DIY microwave transformers and the like is for increased power for the task giving you "bigger, flashier, extreme" results at a much faster rate, correct? This bring due to the manufactured systems lacking the power wattage/voltage needed for said results due to safety concerns and possible liabilities should someone not read or understand the safety warnings causing them to remove themselves from the rest of society?
The concept it's correct to warn people about tools that become a safety issue, but what i don't excuse it's giving bad information like the part he say condensing microwaves that it's a danger from the people that do it diy, also in the reviews that he have made from other tools on the past he have made tools looking more dangerous removing guards or using the the way it shouldn't be used,
@@battleminion a microwave oven transformer is incredibly hazardous. It is the failure to appreciate the danger which is what gets people too. People just don't understand electricity. People will run if they see a bolt of lightning. The juice in a MWO transformer can make you just as dead. It's just not as visible. But it's there.
It's my understanding that Dado stacks are banned in Europe because power tools must come to a stop in under 10 seconds, and the additional mass of the stack makes that harder on the motor.
That is my understanding as well.
They are not banned at all, it's just a myth. You can buy dado stacks, dado blades etc. They are used a little less over here because shapers are quite popular, and we usually use those if it's not in sheet goods.
Not exactly. Dados aren't illegal just aren't compatible with the security solutions. Most (table) saws have some kind of active braking solution which usually stops the blade within 2-3 seconds (btw. that's super useful). Because that brake happens quite instantly the momentum of the heavy dado stack could loosen the locking nut on the arbor. (I was managed to do once with a standard 254mm blade on a jobsite saw when I wasn't payed enough attention to pull properly the nut so it's definitely a thing.
Larger, heavier blades even use those extra holes to lock the blade on the arbor preventing the possibility of spinning.
@@johannes.f.r.you are so right use mine as and when I have to from Oxford England
Its illegal to sell and for business with employees to use them if im correct, individuals can use them. If you can get ahold of a set that is. I actually bought a wobble blade from ebay and had it shipped to the netherlands. Works fine once you get it right. Just is a huge pain to set up because only way to get it accurate is by trial and error (width of dado and distance from the fence also), probably the reason it went extinct
There's a youtuber named styropyro that builds super lasers and messes with huge homemade capacitor banks for fun. He seems incredibly knowledgeable on electricity and its dangers. Dude's nuts. He's also spoken about the homemade fractal woodburning devices that have killed people. He says you touch the wrong spot and you're a corpse before you hit the floor.
@HellfireDraco and styropryo is absolutely correct - "Hey babe, hit the switch while I hold the probes on this piece of wood." (soon to be widow throws switch) BZZZZZT Widow: "I guess I'm having Jim-Bob Fricassee tonight"!
Love Styro's stuff! He's insane! 😂
All the top content people who regularly more or less play with high voltage are extremely aware of the safety risks and what they can and cannot do. Every single one of them also says microwaves are super mega dangerous n to never take em apart
You want the tool/device to be grounded, you want yourself to be insulated. If the tool isn't grounded, YOU become the grounding wire. Insulating yourself helps make sure ALL the electricity goes through the grounding and neutral wires, and doesn't branch off in go through you, too.
An important thing to do us take off metal jewelry, it can act like a "lightning rod" and encourage it to branch to you. A tattoo or silicone wedding band is all around a better/safer option for any kind of work.
You selling hotdogs John?
Fly was down half of the video 😂
Well, when he said: "I can't measure 5 inches - that looks about 5, right? " - Now you know why.
@lockechrisj It was incase he lost his fingers. He could still have a p**s 😱
Why you looking? 🤔
@lockechrisj It was incase he lost his fingers. He could still have a p**s 😱
John; ' This is so dangerous, no one should try this! Let's give it a shot."
That chainsaw disk says "1400 Max RPM" on it. Angle grinders spin at 10,000+ RPM... Scary!
@@Gecko88exactly! I mean, they really meant 14,000 right? It’ll be fine! 😅
I have a couple of them and have never had any issues using them. As with any tool, common sense goes a looooong way.
I have one that i bought over the counter in the UK, (so much for banned), its a scary thing to use because its very grabby, the speed is much lower than standard grinder speed, fortunately(?)my grinder has a speed control so i tried it, its 100 percent use the deathgrip handle and guard !If you are careful its great for carving, but the danger is if you get deeper into the wood it can catch its own channel and twist violently,same as a chainsaw kicks back but faster.If you are into carving a real chainsaw or a small carving chainsaw will do the job more predictably.
@@MrDeepwoodticklesslower speeds are actually going to promote more "grabbing"!
@@MicroRotors Exactly - only becomes dangerous when you add stupid.
After Stumpy Nubs tried carving with that chainsaw disk he almost had stumpy nubs. It took him months to recover from that. He also did a very good video on what should be in a first aid kit and how it should be stored because of it, especially for us single-man shops.
this is the comment I came here for
when i heard its a chainsaw chain on a angel grinder, i noped away from that thing immediately. i do not trust a chain can stay on my angel grinder for long when i put sideway pressure on it while spinning at 7000+ RPM. All it takes is for the chain to expand in length a little bit due to heat expansion, then it wont be a tight fit to the housing disc anymore, putting sideway pressure in that scanario is just begging for it to cam out. nope, nope, dont like, fuck that, nope.
@@acrazydurian the good thing is that once the chain is loose, it starts reducing energy immediately and is less dangerous.. it’s just that in between time while it is part way attached that the danger level is astronomical.
Why the chainsaw disc is so dangerous is because it mimics the tip of a chainsaw bar….which is the part that causes chainsaws to kickback into you. Being circular, no matter which direction you use it from, you are courting a kickback. When a chainsaw kicks at least the length of the bar provides some inertia and the longer the bar the less it can get to your face. The chain disc has zero length and if it grabs the wood it will spin the tool right around on you. It will be sudden, a snatch too quick to react to. It might spin around onto your hand, or groin or into your clothing and run up into your neck, chewing you exactly how you’d expect the tip of a chainsaw to do. If the idea of a running chain saw being thrust into your neck sounds horrific…it is because it is, and using this chain disc is just asking for serious injury or death, no exaggeration!
In 1979 my dad and I went in together and bought a new Craftsman tables saw, radial arm saw, and lathe. These are all still in my shop. We also got some accessories, one of which was this exact Craftsman wobble dado. Over the years I have built probably a dozen different cabinets and bookshelves as well as other projects using the wobble dado. I still have it in my shop. I used it mostly on the radial arm saw to rabbet half-laps for face frames. I've also used it to cut dadoes for inserting the metal strips for adjustable shelves on bookcases using the table saw. The scariest part of it is when using the radial arm saw is the guard won't fit. You have to use it without any guard at all, so you have this spinning wheel of death very near hands and face. The other disadvantage of the wobble dado, it doesn't cut a square bottom dado. The wider the groove, the less square it is. Another funny thing...years ago I bought a set of stackable angles washers that let you turn a regular saw blade into a wobble dado! Also scary and won't cut square bottom dados. A few years ago I did finally spring for an actual stacking dado. Much nicer!
I also used a Craftsman wobble for years with no issues. I finally changed to a stacked dado for the exact disadvantages as you listed.
For someone who allegedly researched for hours about fractal burning, you got every electrical term wrong lol
I've been doing fractal burning for the better part of 5 years now... although I refer to it by it's technical name; a Lichtenburg figure. Yes, it's dangerous... yes, people have been killed doing it... and EVERY single case that I've investigated has been for the same reason; handheld probes... very much like the one you featured here. My rig, which is 100% homemade with transformers salvaged from old microwaves, puts out over 4,000V at 60mA, and is completely no-touch... and I researched it for several months in every aspect before I even attempted it the first time. I have VERY strict safety protocols when I'm working and I've demonstrated the process to countless guests in my shop without any issues. Excellent video and I agree with you 100% in one category; safety. :) Respect what the tool is capable of and it can't hurt you.
Scott, thank you for not being a prick. Also, congrats on having huge balls, because i know many men who wouldnt dare do what you do hahaah
Just for fun and safer for the ones who are scared you can the unit from a stun gun and some.18650 batteries it does the same thing on a smaller scale and altho i havent been shocked my it yet id imagine ya wont die cuz ths lack of power
I have a similar rig that's much more redneck than yours but they key is the no touch aspect. I won't even plug it in without already having the screws and wires set and I hold onto the power plug with both hands until I'm done and unplug it. Anything less is too damgerous and I agree with the video here. Absolutely would never recommend it to anyone for fear that they kill themselves by being any less safe
@@JohnMaleckiUnscrewed... I was arc-flash certified for a number of years doing I.T. ... and I've seen what high voltage can do to a human body. I take ZERO chances. 😉
If someone died doing that they were doing it wrong
Just something to keep in mind regarding the fractal woodburning: Two of the people that died attempting this were trained electricians. You can be wearing insulating gloves and have them melted onto your hands. Just don't do it, a lightning pattern on wood is not worth your life.
Even professionals get into a pattern of bad habits. Only they know if they followed every safety step and clearly did not. Disconnect the power source before touching it even if it is by switch, again it was “negligible”
Wtf does him being an electrician have to do with anything? They just work with manufactured hardware that operates under very specific circumstances. They don’t know anything about high voltage electronics or industrial design.
@@Christopher_Gibbons Wait, do electricians in the US not learn how a transformer works and that it won't trip the MCB if you were to get electrotuted by a device that uses one, since there's no change of resistance on the side of the transformer that's connected to the power supply?
@@beardiemom No. in the US household electricians and high voltage electricians have radically different educational requirements. Regular electricians never work with high voltage transformers, and they have no idea how to safely handle 10kv.
@@Christopher_Gibbons As someone from outside the US, I am disturbed but not surprised that electricians don't have to learn the basics of how electronic devices function.
As someone who has used the adjustable dado blade from craftsman since I was in my 20's......I'm 62 now, the only problem with the adjustable dado is it takes trial and error to get the width of the dado just right. Once you get the width right, it cuts just fine and is no more dangerous to use than any other blade. I will admit that I prefer a dado stack. Just follow one simple rule to avoid injuring yourself while working with tools.......Don't be a dumbass.
. Gf was watching the video with me. And goes “someone’s flying low”. My grandpa always said what can’t get up can’t get out. Great channel. Have a good sir.
I love the fractal burn patterns. Looks like lightning. But that's just me.
Or trees!
It's looks really good if you clean it up and fill it in with epoxy afterwards
I like it too
Better than river tables.
@@steelsunpi Was going to say, river or fractal, same childish esthetic.
You have grounded and insulated backwards. The rubber mat insulates you from being grounded. The More You Know.
which is exactly why people are dying
I'm soooo glad you brought up James Hamilton from Stumpy Nubs. That’s honestly the first thing I thought of the second you mentioned that disc. I personally only use my grinder for metal and masonry and have no plans to try power carving with it, but if I did, I would run as fast as I could away from that disc
At 8:29 literally telling us to avoid dangling things while wearing a hoodie with dangling cords 😂
The problem with some dado stacks is that due to the weight they will keep on turning for longer than desired. They're not really banned in Europe though, it's more that table saw manufacturers can't sell their saws with them installed or state that they're compatible with them if they don't add heftier brakes on them, which is expensive.
You can and has always been allowed to buy them yourself both from any decent store in Europe or import it from e.g. the US.
John, you kept saying "grounded" when you went to step on your rubber mat. Actually you are "insulated" when you are standing on the mat. You never want to be grounded when you are dealing with electricity. That's probably why those 35 people met their maker.
Don't blame the tool, blame the operator. when I was 15, I put a ten- or twelve-inch table saw rip blade on a nine-inch Milwaukee angle grinder without any type of blade guard foolishly thinking that I could cut a large timber much faster than using a hand saw. You think a chainsaw disc on a four-inch grinder is dangerous, you ain't seen nothing yet! I'm 66 and still have everything that I originally came with and everything works. Lucky for me when I pulled the trigger and spun it up to operating speed and started the cut, the blade grabbed and ripped the grinder from me and that was that. A fantastic learning experience with a lucky outcome that taught me to think about how things are going to act befor doing something stupid.
Quickly becoming one of my favourite channels. Recommending it to all of my friends/family. I have done woodworking for 10 years now. Still lots to learn!
This whole video reminds me of weather people standing out in hurricanes telling us don't go out in the hurricane.
There seems to be a myth about dado stacks beeing banned in germany - they are not. As long as your table saw is build to support the use of dado stacks. More specific if the shaft is long enough to let you use the dado stacks and still has enough thread fasten to the nut. If the manufacturer of your table saw say. that a saw doesn't support a dado, than you will use them on your own risk. If something happens, it will be your fault. If something happens during work hours at your job, than you might get in trouble with the insurance, for missusing your table saw. So it is a liability thing and not the fact, that germany think dado's are dangerous.
That kutzall disk is the same one that I dropped on my foot at 11000 rpm! I was wearing my safety sandals, but there was still many stitches, a full month on crutches and almost lost a toe. Wear your safety gear folks, even at home. 😂
Finally a product that's truthful in its advertising. It really does kutz all. I bet it's not very effective on hardened steel though.
This is hilarious~!! I remember first seeing the wobble dado cutter years ago when they came out and thought "what a janky idea~!! Someone's gonna get maimed, killed, or worse~!!" LOLOL
Thanks for this one, John~!
the number of activated Saw Stop cartridges you have is kind of concerning. I hope that they went off due to the blade hitting something in the wood, and not hitting you or your guys. . . :-) Also, I do know a guy who does the fractal burning; I do think that in some cases it looks interesting, but i'm not going to do it. I freely admit that I do have a tendency to get complacent with my tools, and I've been lucky enough to not get hurt yet. That one however, yeah no. I don't play with electricity.
Sawstops are made for people like them. They have no proper security and methodology when woodworking. At least it makes for fun RUclips content though.
They are easy to activate. You can activate it with a green piece of lumber.
Some laminate will trigger it
The modified microwave units are capacitors, which can hold a charge after they are turned off. Even if you do things right, it's there, waiting for you to complete a circuit.
@@damondiehl5637, only some are.
Unlike what is stated, these do not produce microwaves. They put out the same frequency put into them (e.g., 60 hz).
How about a wobble dado blade on your radial arm saw? I have a friend with this set-up. I encourage him on the regular to get rid of the whole mess.
Your friend must not value his life lol
Wobble (drunk) saw on a radial arm saw is great for trenching just need to watch the grab
nothing wrong in that saw just a pain lining up for your cut
3:06 your fly is down, and questionable saw blades. What can go wrong.. or did it?!?!😂
Thank you, John, for the information in this video. This needs to be spread far & wide at how freaking dangerous fractal burning is.
"If you are considering doing this... DON'T" 🤣🤣
I don't think dado stacks are actually banned in europe, they're just not common because saws need to be able to brake and stop fast. So manufacturers don't bother making longer arbors. Also, small shapers (sometimes integrated into a single sliding table saw/shaper/thicknesser/etc) are a lot more common in Europe than they are in NA, that's what people traditionally use. Which kind of shows that the issue with dado stacks is not really safety (because a shaper is pretty damn good at removing stuff that isn't wood), just different habits/traditions.
Definitely agree about fractal burning, it looks cheesy as fuck and the fact that someone would risk their life for this shit boggles the mind.
They are banned and illegal here :)
European style sliding table saws (so not like the sawstop bolt-on attachment) are also somewhat incompatible with dado stacks, because there isn't much space between a normal saw blade and the sliding table. So you couldn't fit very wide stacks.
They aren't banned or illegal in the UK. They are not allowed in commercial shops due to Health & Safety Executive (HSE) rules that cover the fact that the crown guard needs to be removed (nothing to do with riving knife as the video guy states, you don't need a riving knife when cutting a dado or rebate). But, these rules only cover commercial users, it's neither banned nor illegal for a domestic/hobby/non-commercial user to use a dado blade IF they can find a saw that will take one due to the short arbor situ you cover above.
However, several manufacturers now produce overhead crown guards that satisfy the HSE rules and are becoming more common.
I have one in my own small business shop (still covered by HSE rules) that I bought from a UK company, the saw, dado stack and the OH crown guard are all supplied by the same company and are good to use.
I bought one of those chainsaw wheels for a project, then I saw Stumpy Nubs video, I have never used it; when it comes to the project I got it for, I'll use my actual chainsaw or a power carving disc.
You have my anxiety at 100 watching this! 😂 I’m literally yelling at my screen, “DONT DO IT, JOHN!!!!”
Fractal wood burning….
Yes, it’s super dangerous!
But you’re crazy John!
It looks FREAKIN AWESOME!!!
Dado stacks aren't banned. The issue is only in commercial settings and is you can't use them without a blade gaurd at least in the uk
I have used a wobble dado many times and they are really no worse than a stack dado but they don’t cut a flat bottom and that chainsaw carving blade gives me the Willie’s ! 3:52
You're using the lichtenburg machine, or fractal burner wrong. Like the technique or not, don't discredit it by not testing properly.i enjoy watching your videos but you should do a little more research.
"I thought you researched this"
"me and the team researched this for hours"
I remember playing with a fractal burner my dad made 30 years ago. No safety or precautions at all. I remember holding the tool almost drawing with it. Looking back probably not so smart. Thanks Dad.
So I have done Fractal burning myself with the same kit you bought. It's much slower than some other peoples because it's lower voltage. The ones that go really fast are absolutely dangerous. Like you I bought a dead mans switch and I back away when doing this. I have gotten shocked through the gloves a couple of times but I have gotten a decent burn out of it on one of my projects. I think it's just a mater of taste for if you like the burn effect or not.
If you're getting shocked through your gloves you need to check them for pin holes and replace them if they have any. Also standing on a rubber mat and making sure you're not grounded will also reduce the risk of shock
@@NOLENATION96 I'll double check my gloves. I am pretty sure what was happening is that since my hands weren't placed correctly and I kept grabbing metal bits and that was causing me to get shocked. However, if I do it now I set it and back away. I don't want to get hurt.
I also do it on the lawn for some better grounding than a shop floor or driveway. Don't know if that is any better than actually getting a rubber mat though.
@WhiteWolfman426 if you have rubber electrical gloves you should be safe from shock even if touching the metal directly unless of course your set up is putting out more voltage than what your gloves are rated for. As for doing it on the lawn thats worse in terms of safety for you. The idea behind putting a rubber mat under your feet is so that you're not grounded. If you're not grounded you won't be shocked because you have no reference to ground think of it like how birds can land on electrical power lines but not get shocked because they're not grounded.
@WhiteWolfman426 actually what you're referring to that increases the burn rate would be the amperage. You can hit a human with 100kv with 500 milliamps and never do any damage of consequence with a quick zap from a spark plug wire, take that same 100kv and 50 amp rapid zap and it's likely to mortally wound or be fatal to the individual that catches the millisecond arc.
I really wish content creators would stop perpetuating the idea that dado stacks are illegal in Europe. It's just not true, and it's an easy thing to debunk.
And understanding the details of why they're rare in the EU is a really good way to understand the dangers of dado stacks so you can use them safely.
I've got one in the UK. It came with "EU APPROVED" written on it.
I got a pucker when he was touching the fractal burner without the gloves, I don't know if they are absent in the fractal setup but microwaves often have high power capacitors as part of the power circuitry that is being DIY rigged and the internet kits are often just doing that DIY for you so there is still a risk of getting a nasty shock when it is not actively operating.
One of the first major woodworking tools I bought was a 10 inch Radial arm saw from Sears some 35 years ago and I loved it. This is the tool I use the exact same Wobble Dado blade on that you were demonstrating. It is easy to adjust to the exact width that you want, and by making multiple passes when it's set at the widest cut of 3/4 of an inch you can make grooves as wide and deep as you want. The only thing I have found when I use it is to push the blade into the wood, because if you try to draw it across the wood and it bits, it has a tendency to tear across the wood.I like the radial saw because you can see where the blade is cutting as apposed to a table saw where the blade is hidden by the wood. My cousin Is a cabinet maker in Holland and he told me that he has never seen a Radial saw before. I have noticed in all the wood working shows that I have watched on RUclips, I've never seen anyone use a radial arm saw. Why is that?
I think John gets scared of his own shadow
Alphabet is extremely hungry to ban everyone and everything, dudes just covering his arse. But yeah- it’s pretty extreme
Also, the number of used SawStop cartridges he has on the wall is pretty concerning... 😅
This video annoys me SOOO much. It's full of a bunch of misinformation.
The wobble dado: It's putting a lot of forces on your table saw that they're just not built for. It's a whole lot of mass off center with high momentum. Sure, the idea seems convenient. It's less messing around with lots of parts. But it's a whole lot of mass that's being used in a relatively uncontrolled way.
Okay, comments about the power carver are fair...
The fractal stuff... Hoo boy!
You state in the video that you and your team did hours of research... and you keep talking about how dangerous it is BUT you immediately undermine that with misinformation! Like you respect it so much you're not going to talk about it any sort of an accurate or helpful way.
The rubber mat for example: It doesn't make you more grounded. More grounded would be standing there barefooted with nothing between you and the earth. The point is to make it more difficult for your body to become part of the circuit. i.e. NOT GROUNDED. So if someone is watching that and they take your words seriously, they'll know that to become more grounded they should be essentially planted in the ground - which is a whole lot less safe.
You plant so much of your dissuasion in the aesthetic of the technique when tastes are subjective. If people didn't like the result, they wouldn't be trying to make it. It's just a terribly argument to make when the argument you should be making is "It's freakin' unsafe. To get better results, it gets less and less safe".
You keep throwing out terms, which again, you said had been researched, without regard to what they actually mean. Compressing frequencies etc. when you can't even be bothered to learn about the relationship between wattage, current and voltage and what any of it means.
Putting this information out there in this way, where you're blatantly not giving the dangerous subject matter the respect it deserves, is irresponsible at best.
You can do better.
You are not "using microwaves." You are using a transformer to get a higher voltage.
YES, grounding is your enemy when playing with high voltage.
On the other hand, mocking battery cables OR any low dielectric (low insulation) cables is a worthy endeavor. You want as much rubber between you and 10 volts or better as you can get.
About a year ago my grandpa passed away, while going through his woodworking tools I found one of those wobble dado blades.
on the fractal burning, i have seen something similar done on epoxy but for that ppl shoot one large arc through the epoxy to get the lightning effect but that needs way more power since u shoot the lightning bolt through the epoxy
the way that works is u have positive and negative points on the work piece "negative being the ground" and then u build a large charge that u pass on the work piece by tapping on the positive point on the work piece and the bolt jumps on the negative point. its neat but hella dangerous
John, you have now, in detail, explained 3 things that I have zero desire to ever to try. Great reenforcement!! However, I am old enough that I do remember that my father had a wobble dado from Sears. I threw it away decades ago.
There is a guy that does displays of the fractal burning near me. Just posts up at a festival and gets to burning, then hangs out with the glass blowers.
I used one of those wobble dado blades for five years making cabinets and bookcases. Worked great for us, I didn't even know they were banned, haha.
I have a wobble Dado and the Lichtenberg word burning setup (Homemade with microwave transformer). The few times I use it I am standing about 15 feet away when I plug it in and then initiate the burning. I have a few clients that love this look as a natural art type item. The wobble is interesting, but mine has a set screw to "keep" the setting.
I used to have one of those wobble blades. It works ok but leaves a curved bottom on the dado. I also bought one of those chain wheels and once I got it I was too scared to even try it. It's still in package on a shelf after 8 years.
I used a wobble dato for years before I got the stack dato set. I never had an issue with it but the big problem was that the bottom of the dato was rounded because of the offset. I have put my old wobble to rest and will stick with the stack.
I been using the wobble dato for 22 years and still do.
I was going to say exactly this. The rounding isn't nearly as bad on more narrow cuts, but it's still quite noticeable. If I just need a super quick dado that doesn't have to be super accurate, I'll give a spin. Otherwise, use the stack.
When I first saw those chain saw grinder blade... I thought "that thing will kill you and it's going to hurt the whole time!"
I've used the wobble dado on my unisaw for 50 years without issue...I don't use it often but the results have always been satisfactory
i use the wobble dado for the last 40 years even had it sharpened once. Works great on large cabinet panels. had one table saw that it was dedicated to for 15 years.
I have a pile of wobble dado blades. I've used them. There are tricks to it. Like the kerf you get can change due to the hardness of the wood. The blade can get kind of pushed in. Dialing in the exact size you want is a trial and error process. But once you've set it up they work great.
"If your doing it, fk you" proceeds to do it...
I remember using the wobble dato cutter in highschool, my shop teaher hated them cause the sound and vibration of them would like put students in a daze, I remember when he got a dato stack for the shop, never seen a man more happy to be incharge of 30 teenagers in a woodshop
in my high school electrical class we made one of those wood burning microwave things
I have a few wobble stacks and used to use them all the time. I was very surprised on how accurate they are like when making bottom slots drawers or backs in cabinets
Dude I’m calling it. This channel is gonna be huge. I definitely predict a mill subscribers by 2025
The chain saw for the 4" grinder I use to use those all the time when building half log stairs worked GREAT, The old wobble dado blade I also used that many tears ago with my old table saw work pretty good.
You had me until 9:37 when you appear to grab the blade of a plugged in death trap … 😂
Fractal woodburning is easy when you follow one rule. DON'T TOUCH IT WHEN IT IS ON!
Never laughed so hard, his fly was down the for a long time hahahahahahahahahaha lol almost the whole beginning till he went to the sawstop
Did you see anything you haven't seen before?
You must be really bored or if you found that so funny.
Interestingly I don't look at dude's crotches so I never would've known.
The wobble dado blade was the standard of my shop class in 2003-2007.
Lol Mans fly is down hahah 2:50 i love you dude hahaha
I tried the fractal burning. When cleaned out and adding epoxy to create a lightning scene. Not too shabby!
I reckon you should have linked the Ann Reardon video explaining how and why it's dangerous, it includes how safety gear was ineffective and how electricians have been victims.
Because "it looks dumb" is only going to convince people who value your opinion on aesthetics
We used those wobble dado blades in my shop class in the early 2000's. They always scared me but worked just fine.
I have a wobble dado I got from my grandfather's tools when he passed. I haven't used it since I retired his 80's model craftsman table saw. It works but is 100% squirrelly.
We had the wobble dado blade in high school wood shop. It worked just fine but that was back in the day that we had no guards or riving knives.
That wobble dado was the exact one we used in high school back in the 80s as a kid back then never did we ever think about safety it was just cool shit to do LOL 😂
I've always been curious. Because of the wobble, is the bottom of the dado curved at all?
The problem with the power carving disc is mostly user related...doing pull motion for shaping like you were doing is how it's supposed to work and you'll be just fine...people run into problems and ER visits when they try to use them in push strokes...it will bind and kick back
I had one of the 4.5" King Albert wheels (chain saw on a 4.5" disk). Using it on my Makita grinder and it snagged on the Oak bowl in 2018, that shot the grinder over the top of my knee and left a 5" gash over my kneecap. 15 stitches later, my leg was reassembled. I was lucky that I did not hit a tendon or artery. Have not touched it again since.
That mugshot of Tim "the toolman" Taylor @ 0:08 from his cocaine bust cracked me up.
He's definitely a tool because he snitched to get out of prison time
Dude I still use my Craftsman wobble that I bought brand new in the 80’s and I love it. You want to try something scary try and find a Craftsman shaper head for the table saw, I had one, made a lot of stuff with it but unfortunately I lost it somewhere during the years.
There are two popular experimenter high voltage sources, for short, the NST and the MOT
The Neon Sign Transformer puts out many kV, but is current limited, not recommended getting too close to that as it would definitely hurt, but the current limiting means it probably won't kill you.
The Microwave Oven Transformer puts out only a couple of kV, but with significant current available... as they say, it's volts that jolts and mils that kills. Ordinary mains voltage is enough to kill, but a 30mA RCD is low enough and fast enough that you barely know you've had a shock (I know, I got a RCD cutoff shock once from being careless, the thing I though was unplugged wasn't).
NB. A RCD cannot protect you from shocks from a transformer output, so it WILL NOT save you from inept wood burning.
The only "safe" way to do wood burning is with a "dead man's handle" switch which must be held to maintain power, positioned outside the danger zone
Wobble dado blades were common when I was growing up. My dad had one and the college wood shop where I went to grad school had one. I never saw a dado stack until I was in my 30s. The biggest problem with most of them is they wouldn't cut a flat bottomed dado.
Same had one when I was a apprentice 60 years ago in Oxford England
They're also pretty difficult to set up accurately
Subscribed just foe your saw. Thanks for your brain stuff in your videos. Alot of stuff I could learn, hopefully it sticks 😅
Part of the dado ban in Europe is the weight. They require a shorter stopping time. A dado stack can have enough mass to try to unscrew the blade nut when it stops.
The cut made by the wobble blade does not have exactly square sides and a slight curve on the bottom.
Thank you so much for showing me fractal burning. That is so awesome of a wood technique that I just can’t believe my eyes so I went out and I bought three of them. I figured three times the power would burn my wood even deeper. If I do it wrong, it’ll stop my heart three times as fast. 😂😂
On a real note. I’m glad you showed everyone that as many people probably have not seen it. I have seen it a few years back, and I have never cared for the look of it. Hence is why I have never tried it. Never will.
Did not realize that the wobble blades were that bad. Our shop teacher back in the late 80's had us use this type of blade all the time for dados 😵. Thanks for another great video and I have always loved your content. I would disagree with you on the fractal burning, I have seen some really cool pieces that were done with epoxy. This is something I have always wanted to try to do an will some day. Unfortunately the people that have perished from this, should not be doing DIY projects because they lack the common sense of safety when it comes to electricity. Love your content and thanks for sharing this.
My dad had that dado when I was a kid. I remember it vividly, but never remember him actually using it.
All I've ever used is a wabble dato. Never knew there was any other kind until about a year ago. We used a wabble dato in industrial arts class in high-school. Never thought they were anymore dangerous than any other table saw and they work great because you can fine tune the width because you aren't limited to the increments that you get with a stack. .
I have and use the chainsaw blade on the grinder… it works and can do cool stuff, but I bought it at HARBOR FREIGHT! IT is the only tool I have that scares me… I always have the image of it whipping around and 10,000 rpms of dis-embowlment! Geeeeze… ok, I haven’t used it for a few years… the microwave transformer has nothing to do with microwaves. It’s just a cheap transformer you can make the tool on the cheap from parts at the dump. It’s low voltage, but it’s serious current. It’s just ELECTRICITY! no microwaves!! Haha! Great video!
Hey John, I’ve done a video or two showing a wobble dado in use on a SHOPSMITH! They aren’t actually wobbling, but they appear to be. Scott
I own that dado blade by craftsman, bought it in the late 90's. Works great, especially on smaller saws! Is difficult to set the size exactly, but with a little time you can get good cuts. Just used mine last December to make new kitchen drawers and shaker cabinet doors and drawer fronts. I will accept a new stack set if you got one laying around, lol.
I used a wobble dado for years, before I got a real dado stack. It came with an old craftsman RAS. It works great but does leave a curved dado not square like a stack.
Ive made one of those fractal burners out of a microwave transformer and car jumper cables, i would just tack a few finishing nails hook the jumper cables to it and use a long extension cord so i could be at least 10 ft away when i plugged it in. Also its using high voltage to burn in the fractal pattern bot microwaves, people are just using high voltage transformers from old microwaves.
I did the same with the carving disk and got 7 stiches on my hand . Scared to use it now
I subscribed for this. Thank you
I have both the stack dado set and the “wobble “ dado. The Rockwell wobble is hands down easier to adjust and use. Yes, they will take longer to stop after power is cut, so just like a beg grill, when you shut it down don’t run your palms lovingly over it until it stops. Not a very difficult concept to grasp.
As if the wobble blade isn’t dangerous enough, you’re using it with your fly undone 😂😂
11:59 Lethal voltage starts at 50V. You don’t need a massive amount of amperage to kill you either. Be safe out there.