Boeing 727 Crashes on Takeoff at Chicago-O'Hare Airport - United Airlines Flight 9963
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2024
- A United Airlines Boeing 727 QC, N7425U, operating as Cargo Flight 9963, tried to takeoff without success from O'Hare International Airport, Chicago, Illinois, on March 21, 1968, at approximately 0353 c.s.t. Subscribe if you want to see more historic flights.
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This seems to be a theme lately with them
They are treating their creators unfairly and terribly. Very sorry to hear this. Times are really hard right now because of that traitor Biden, or I would help you out. It's your own content FFS? What is YT even thinking?
Anybody could post something like this and make millions! Get real.
@@skjoe1115..I watched Europeans surprised that many Americans don't fly to Europe. I've flown although we have a drive almost 3 hrs to the nearest airport. I like road trips. Is pilot ignoring that alarm.
I just came about your channel this evening. How long have you been on YT covering airline crashes? The reason I ask is because I want to know which crashes you have NOT covered, so I can suggest a few.
I am a retired American Airlines customer service agent, (ticket counter), gate agent, & baggage agent, PLUS flight attendant.❤️ I have always loved aviation since I was a small girl. BTW, I was 5 years old when this crash happened.
Thanks!
Capt: "My career is over." At least fortunately for him, his life wasn't over.
I guess the skies weren't friendly to United that day.
Was his career over? Does anyone know? BTW, I was a teenager when this happened and I was a babysitter for several pilots and their wives in a suburb of KC. I was honored to know them, no mishaps/crashes.
His career wouldn't have been overif thed had stayed at apron git a mechanic and checked it they wouldn't then have had alarm going off and that thedset flaps wrong if they had decided and not taken off with alarm sounding it might have helped
@@bunglejoy3645 Didn't one of them say F it.
Hard to believe anyone would say that😢
Can't believe they tried to take off with an alarm going off during a critical phase of flight. They were lucky to have survived that.
Yeah, ignoring a warning indicator during takeoff roll is career ending move. Glad the pilot and his crew lived to talk about it.
Pilots trying to take off with a loud alarm blaring in the cockpit, baffles me.
What’s the vector victor !? pretty much like an aeroplane or a spoof movie Isn’t it? Not real life
Maurizio bravo )) I like very much and( still like very much) the perfect design of the aircraft ! And of course every details of the reports !! GRAZIAS
It’s simple if you have reached V2 status/speed you have no option but to rotate aka takeoff and declare an emergency,means you are going so fast you will run out of runway…..
@@josephlambe2796 The warnings were way before that.
@@josephlambe2796the beeping started long before V1 or V2. The takeoff could have been aborted.
Alarms should never be ignored.
TWO PROBLEMS before takeoff REQUIRES A return to let engineers inspect the plane….
What about false alarms?
Alarms should never be ignored.You don't know if the alarms are false, until they are checked out.
That’s right !
I worked in a coal fired power plant for 27 years. We didn't ignore alarms.
No one with good sense would ignore alarms
@@chasg8183 Yeah, right? And in an airplane? My goodness, what was the crew thinking.
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@@sludge8506 We had 3 hydrogen cooled generators. Made me always think of The Hindenburg.
@@billybob042665 Sounds like a trip.
My Alarm goes off 5 mornings a week... if I ignored it, I would be unemployed ... just like this Captain !!
Excellent Point Luke!!!
As a caregiver for my late father, I set three alarms to make sure I had time for dad before going to work. The first alarm was set for 4:30. The second alarm was set for 4:45. By the time the third alarm went off at 5:00, I knew I had to rush to make it to work by 7:00 am. 😊
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The captain was worried about his career being over, I’m like dude your plane’s on fire, you better get out. Worry about the career later.
Can’t for the life of me understand why the pilots ignored warnings and continued their takeoff
Yea that's what the alarms are for.
Capt. Hudson was probably right…”my career is over”. I’m sure he had a tough time explaining why he attempted takeoff with improper flap setting, not to mention continuing the takeoff with a warning buzzer sounding and the stick shaker vibrating. That poor 727 was trying hard to tell him “hey buddy, don’t take off” but he didn’t listen to it.
No way I would've taken off with the problems they were having.
"Just ignore those alarms."
- United 9963
- Chernobyl Reactor 4 Control Room
Good thing nothing bad happened in either situation.
I’m a private Pilot and a USAF veteran. Why in the world would ANY Pilot continue a take off with alarms warning of danger, unless it was too late to stop? Also the larger the aircraft the more dangerous a malfunction is. The plane I flew could be landed on a large pasture field in an emergency.
This was my thought,that they were too far into to abort the take off,once they rotate they are commited
They really screwed up didn't they, on 727 the config warning sounds as soon as you open the throttles, they called V1 but not V2, they should have aborted T/O.
He probably had developed the habit of ignoring warnings during his career because most turn out to be nuisances.
I went back to watching another channel about airliner disasters for a couple days, but only because I had watched all of yours. I just clicked on this video and immediately knew I was back on your channel because the graphics are sooooo GOOD.
Thanks!
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@flyingtigerline. Crazy I know, but in 1968 I flew Flying Tiger airlines to Vietnam. We had departed Oakland (SF) with one stop in Yokohama Japan (2 hrs.) Then on to VIETNAM. The stewardesses were all beautiful and all wore uniforms with mini skirts. 😊
Looks like the boys in the cockpit decided not to trust their warnings. Probably not a good idea
The graphics are extraordinary.
I have spent many happy hours flying the B-727 -100's and -200's... in all 3 seats... it is a complex aircraft that absolutely needs 100% of your attention. The AI valve is a no go item, but having corrected itself, it was a non issue. I had one get stuck on out of Denver... use the check list, shut down the engine and returned to Stapleton... BUT... ignoring a take off warning horn???? That is a NEVER do that situation.... That's why these systems are in place... and then we merged in 2010... I retired in 2014 along with my pension...
Well, you must be such a big guy to spend those happy hours flying in all three seats. I bet it was uncomfortable, trying to move the throttles.😂
But seriously, well done and all the best for your retirement the 727 was a beautiful aircraft. I think I only flew on a 757
I find it interesting that the aviation industry that spend lots of effort in the technical analysis and pride themselves on the human factors, but actually stop short of the root cause which in my background in oil and gas is where we really start to get to the nitty-gritty. LOL for example the probable cause was failing to abort the take off with a take off configure alarm okay great why did they ignore that?what was going on then ? if you don’t address that behavioural issue you actually have done nothing to prevent it happening again-the action is to reinforce following procedure.they already had the procedure where is addressing the root cause would fix it for example was it time constraint? Was it pressure to complete the flight for some other reason? What were the factors leading to them? Not wanting to stop? Was it ignorance?
The 757 is the 2nd worst aircraft I have ever commanded... the 737 is the hands down worst...@@malcolmwhite6588
My favourite aircraft Aussie Bob 😊
They were lucky to be alive... The Captain shouldn't just have lost his career, as he stated, for the crash.. His decision to not abort during roll well before V1 showed he might have needed a new career change regardless if he snuck it up into the air long enough to get properly airborne... Good job on the animation!
Poo poo
Did he, in fact, lose his career? Does anyone know?
That poor bird. She tried to warn him three times and the captain wouldn't listen.
The takeoff warning horn sounded shortly after commencing takeoff from runway 09R. The takeoff was continued as the crew tried to figure out what caused the warning. The horn ceased before reaching rotate speed. The stickshaker came on and thrust was added, but the aircraft failed to climb and the captain elected to discontinue the takeoff. The 727 settled back to the macadam shoulder off the right side of the runway and struck a ditch, coming to rest 1100 feet beyond the runway end and 300 feet right of the extended centerline. The flaps had been set at 2deg instead of the takeoff range of 5-25 degrees.
Did this end the Captains' career?
I do not know; Captain Victor S Hudson jr 10050 hrs of flight time suffered a back injury as a result of the crash@@Oceangirl_505
Goodness I read the title of the video thinking that it was a current news story. Whew, glad that there wasn’t another major plane crash. This one certainly would have been a tragic one. It happened quite a few years before I was born, yet I still remember hearing people talk about it from time to time. My parents often talked about another plane crash close to home that wiped out a neighborhood near L.A. Think that one was in the 80s.
That might likely be the Cerritos Air Crash. Horrific.
I subscribed just now as this channel is good. It’s an unexpected pleasure to find a new channel - or rather a channel with new material - which I’ve not yet subscribed to.
Re the video, surely even many decades ago pilots were taught that a takeoff configuration warning meant the plane was not in a safe configuration for takeoff? I don’t know why they didn’t abort it immediately and save the plane. It’s equally incredible that a pilot can forget to check the flaps are set correctly before taking off.
Back in the glory days, I flew as a passenger in a United 727, LAX-PDX-SEA-YVR. We deplaned in YVR via the back stairs under the tail!
The same way D. B. Cooper deplaned. Oh, wait, not quite the same. 🤪🤪🤪🤪
Yeah, Cooper had a parachute as I recall.@@sludge8506
100 series via the ventral stairs or perhaps the 200?? We used to install the tailstand(on the 200s..it was stored and secured on the ventral stairs) from the stairs once blocked in or before blockout...the smaller 100s did not have a tailstand only the "locking" ventral stairs.
Loved working them...but not their small belly compartments(Federal/Fedex Express/Don#11301)
Whats that noise? Itis an alarm captain. Oh fuck it. Plane 1, pilot 0.
Those were beautifully balanced looking aircraft, bring them back!
Gotta trust those alarm bells! Or any other warning lights or unusual sound.
Well, the first problem is that there's no pilot in that plane!
Picky, picky. 😂😂
Maybe he dropped a cigarette on the cockpit deck.
I still would have went back to get the Mechanics to check it out to the ramp
My career is over!!!!! Ya think??????
Been living in Chicago since 1961 and never heard of this incident! But it reminds me of the Delta L1011 flying into the everglades when pilots got toooo involved with the faulty landing gear deployment light mishap!
The L1011 crash was Eastern 401
Much like the Northwest 255 accident in Detroit where flaps were missed on the checklist and the warning system was disabled.
So did Captain Hudson end up losing his career after this mishap?
Awesome vid as always❤
Yes, I need to know as well.
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@@Oceangirl_505 Why do you need to know grasshopper?
A visually beautiful and realistic presentation.
Many thanks!
Ditto
The visuals are very convincing.
Congrats Mauricio on this new channel,i like how it sounds “situation becomes critical”
'We Abort for 3 things: The Fire Light illuminates, Any 'Master' Warning Light, or....the 'Airplane Talks'.
Lady's and Gentlemen, thanks for flying United...
it was a cargo flight
@@robertyoung3992😂 Right? Not too many “Lady’s” ( or ladies ) riding with the cargo in back! But…I get Ivan’s comment. Once the plane came to a rest, Captain Fuckit stated “My career’s over” & so he figured he’d have one final broadcast on the public address system….
Ivan must be a real "Lady's" man. 🙃😇
Amazing graphics. That was the golden age of aviation in my book. The 727.
Maybe you should put the incident date in your headline description?!
He kind of does the airplane was built in 1967-10 months old, so if you noticed that you can extrapolate from there the approximate date
I thought the same thing until I saw 727. That has been out of passenger service for a while.
If he did that then he wouldn't get any views. I came here ONLY because I thought it was recent. I'm gone now. He should do a video about the Hindenburg and pretend it just happened.
@@patrickfreeman8257 pretty much did wasn’t that Hindenburg in July 2021 ?😂
@@patrickfreeman8257 seriously, still have my views I don’t mind the old ones
My uncles ex-girlfriend’s cousin’s plumber’s mother’s best friend’s sister’s ex-employer’s son’s best friend almost took a job with UAL😊
I didn't recall this when it happened (I was 14) and a subsequent eventual airline career never brought it to my attention either. It did mesh with my sense of safety in that ignoring safety systems due to human factors errors could be an accident waiting to happen. Great video quality and I had to chuckle briefly at the background radio chatter that was based on present-day ORD.
'When we crash our wives will have something on the CVR' famous last words out of Atlanta jockeys.
I'm surprised Ricky didn't come on the radio and say, "Lucy, you got some 'splainin' to do!"
Incredible quality video, Subscribed.
Thanks!
Great graphics--well done sir.
I just thank God their safe ❤️🙏
I lived in northwest Chicago before joining Northwest Airlines as a flight attendant in 1976. I don't remember this accident but thank God the plane didn't take off and all passengers and crew survived.
There were no passengers. It was a cargo flight.
three crew members al survived by jumping out the windows.@@davidquinn6161
But have you not heard? Flying is safer than driving..................according to Boeing and the FAA.
Absolutely. However the chances of surviving an airline crash is about zero. AND of course YOU have absolutely NO CONTROL over the situation. However I also do NOT ride in a vehicle if I'M NOT THE DRIVER because most people can NOT drive for shit.
There's been plenty of survivable crashes
@@leecowell8165300+ passengers in Japan would disagree with you.
Yeah...Boeing & FAA can go to hell. They've both lost credibility & public trust. The cozy relationship between those two was exposed in the Air Max MCAS debacle & now a door goes flying out the jet mid-flight in another Max aircraft. Follow-up from the same airline of the Max that the door flew off mid-flight on the other Max models in their fleet revealed many bolts or whatever they're called were not properly secured & loose. This points to poor or non-existent quality control @ Boeing. All in the name of profit. I'd never trust a word out of either of those organizations.
Great graphics and story.
This video was extremely well done.
Love your content!
The graphics are amazing!
They need to put a technology in these planes, that if the flaps aren't set right the plane doesn't go anywhere. I've watched a lot of plane crash videos over the years, and the crashes were caused by the wrong flap configuration or they forget to put the flaps out at all. Wrong or no flaps planes can't get off the ground. BANG.
They've done it. How'd that work out on the 737 MAX?
If that photo IS the actual aircraft involved in this accident the flaps had to be at 5 degrees or greater as the leading edge flaps/slats were all extended. At flaps “2” you only get slats 2,3,6 and 7 and the rest (L.E Flaps 1,2,3,4 and Slats 1,4,5,8) would be retracted. PS, this is from 7 years in all crew positions on the B-727, 4-1/2 as Captain.
PPS. I agree, no way continue a takeoff with the TO Warning screaming. Should’ve rejected takeoff at first sound!
Couldn't be the actual plane because #1 It's a sim. #2 - it was a cargo flight.
That’s interesting. One can only assume the investigators spotted this anomaly. Could the leading edge devices have dropped as a result of the ‘impacts’ as it careered over the grass and across the ditch I wonder?
We used to call it a configuration alarm and you are right as the photo appears to be a 727-100 and all Kruger flaps and L/E slats are down so I'm at a loss as to why they couldn't get airborne.
Did you ever fly for Fedex? We had them(72s) for 35 years...a real workhorse!
These are quite well done.
Thank you for producing them
They are educational
May I request the PWA 737 crash at Cranbrook Canada 1978.
Thank you
Great video. Nice job
Yep never t/off with any warning alarm activated should have abort...on flight chk...
Fantastic story telling and graphics
At approximately 20,000 hours of B727 time she always got me there and back. Respect the warning systems and you will always be fine.
great video Subscribed
Thanks for the sub!
This is some pretty high quality video for the date.
Would it have been possible to go from Flaps 2 to Flaps 5 during the climb? I mean, if they caught it, could it have been corrected and avoided the crash?
The question to be asked is how many times has this captain ignored alarms during his career? I bet plenty of times.
Spectacularly realistic!
Great video 👏👏👏
Glad everyone made it out. I was only over two months old.
I grew up in Chicago and remember the 2 crashes near midway and the American crash at Ohare but never heard of this
The takeoff configuration warning is there for a reason. So many early accidents happened from pilots ignoring thar warning, or in one case deactivating the system on DC9s by pulling the fuse. The DC9 would have nuisance activations of the takeoff configuration alarm during taxi because of the high thrust required to get moving, so pilots would pull the fuse to shut the system up, and it bit one crew hard when they took off in the wrong configuration and got no warning.
This was one of several United accidents during the 60’s and 70’s which showed a recurring pattern of poor CRM. They jolted United out of their complacency and the result was United’s CRM training program, which served as the model for the industry. It could even be argued that United’s CRM issues went all the way back to the United 227 crash at SLC in 1965. While the 727 was dropping like a brick on landing approach, descending at 2100 feet per minute, the F/O was uncomfortable with the excessive rate of descent. But he kept his mouth shut until Captain Kehmeier let the 727 fly itself into the ground 300’ short of the runway. The two words “GO AROUND” would have saved 40+ lives.
Amazing job presenting your cases. X-plane 12?
Ty and yeah.
Two questions? Are those ATC recordings the actual recordings or a re-enacted version?
If there are audio warnings of a unsafe takeoff configuration, why won’t the plane override the pilots inputs ?
With an alarm going off they still choose to take off. I'm no pilot but even I know that alarm was telling them something wasn't right. They should have refused takeoff and then rechecked everything first.
Great graphics.
They forgot to mention. The captain is flipping hamburgers on a cruise ship for a living.
Remember back in 99 at Sydney airport seeing an Olympic Airways plane struggling to climb after lift off and I've just realised it was a 727 as they flew them and it was a tail jet plane
Through the years with aviation before they board the passengers on the planes when they cause the plane to have a malfunction. What they would of done was inspect every section of the plane engine and parts to see if any of them were damage before takeoff or landing in for emergency to save the pilots, crew and passengers lives.
Flew to O'Hara on a United, back in 2013, alot of turbulence.
If it's Boeing, I ain't going.
Freezing temps? Fully loaded with gear? Better stay in bed than try to mess with the laws of physics! * Cav *
What is happening with the pilots and the industry as a whole?
Fairs are impossible, no food is served, fights, rudeness, and so many accidents!
The glamour and security of the airlines a gone for ever.
"How Great Thou Art!" Amen.
There are old pilots and there are bold pilots, however, there are no old bold pilots.
Built in 1967 (10 mo the old) it says.. was this a reenactment from the 60s or was that just a typo? Sincere question.. I just haven't heard about this crash
Yes great graphics etc… but I have to read it I’ll buy the book!
Look at the technologically advanced 1977 boeing 727. After 30 million hours still going.
“My career is over.” When you treat flying with the seriousness of making french fries, you should be making french fries.
This happened way way back in 1968. This was a cargo flight with 3 crew members and no passengers. Fortunately everyone survived. Move along, nothing to see here…..
Thanks for repeating what’s in the video!
Peace be with everyone inside.
Wow, I love aviation and play flight sims and teach myself everything about the planes like cold and dark starting, manually entering flight plans, weights, performance calculations, etc. but I did not know this….
Is 3 degrees of flaps really enough to prevent the plane from taking off?
It's amazing how many 727 captains turn up in the comments. I'm convinced you could make a video on the Wright Flyer and there would be a handful of pitiful individuals who would claim: "I flew that for years. Great airplane."
There is alot of old timers out there, I was one the 747 flight test program in 1969
Is this old cuz i work at o'hare night shift and we havent had no crashes here.
Exactness in communication not too important to either of you.
Yep! Basic stuff, throttle, flaps, icing, load balance, fuel load, pitot tubes clear.
This was March 21, 1968.
Yeah, guys like this love Bullshit
It's hard to believe the aircraft couldn't takeoff at flaps 2. And also that they didn't abort at the first sign of trouble after rotation.
There are no FAA licensed passenger carrying B- 727's in the US.
I know logistically and cost-wise it doesn't make sense, but a lot of crashes could be avoided if runways were twice as long as needed. Or even 50% over what is needed. So many crashes happen just before the runway and so many excursions happen after the end of the runway. A longer runway would allow pilots to have a lot more space to work with on landing. Currently they do their best to get it down just after the threshold which is often very close to buildings, fences, canals, lighting, etc.
We have redundancies on airplanes, but no redundancies on runways. People will always make mistakes, and therefore giving them such a narrow window of success makes everything more risky.
And of course the rules would be such that you'd have to act as if the runway were shorter. Which would cost more fuel but increase safety.
But don't they always build airports and then allow infrastructure to be built close by, really stupid. Like when they build motorways and then allow housing projects nearby; next thing you know the residents are petitioning for night closures because of noise!
Nice graphics
What set the Alarm Off to Begin With????
Am I the only one here who thinks alarms on the takeoff run should be an automatic rejected takeoff?? Good grief! Let's take the alarm out of the equation. You try and rotate and the stick shaker goes off. Again reject the takeoff. That airplane does not want to fly. Even if it gets off the ground into ground effect it's not going to end well. No accident happens without several contributing factors and there were silver points where they could have stopped this. I know it's hard to second-guess the guys in the seat but good grief!
Wait, the flight engineer only had 300 hours total time? That can’t be right can it? And I think the aircraft was actually a -100QC. Great animation! This is a mishap that I wasn’t aware of. Great work.
According to the ASN Database, it was configured as a 727-22C. Also, it's quite possible that, in 1968, a flight engineer would've only had 300 hours of flight time - especially if paired with a senior pilot who had more than 10000 total hours with 1000 hours on a relatively new type.
They are going to have to stop this! I’m never going to get my niece on a plane for our cruise in April.
Well don’t watch them
@@MsRocker961 did you have a bad day to respond to my message like that!
Nice simulation
What animation software is used for this?