Brutal by design, brutal by nature and brutal by experience. A design approach much admired by those that never had to live , work or maintain them. And hated by those that had too.
Deep - Dark - Pure enigmatic brilliance. Certainly way ahead of time. With its geometry, modernism, layring and play of light its too complex to be understood by most people, however it look like a total paradise for people like myself. People who don't believe in flowery and fairy notion of buildings. It is so unique and thought provoking.
Le Corbusier and Athens Charter very great ideas that just went wrong due to lack of understanding and finance. We have great, and very bad examples of it around the world.
Sorrynotsorry but as much as I've tried I just can't stand the dude. Dark and depressing. Gigantic, overwhelming and designed to make you feel small and push you down. Fascist in character.
The lack of critical thinking in this doco is mind blowing. Is like "he's a genious " nothing else to see here. I'm am a survivor of Le Corbusier City scape and misery-tecture from a poor country, and I can tell you one thing. There's a few similar architectural objets around we can compare to LC legacy today, cos it is he's legacy! The architecture of the industrial incarceration system widely utilised in north America and the school and universities system wide spread all over. Also all over Latin America and beyond. LC architecture is the definition and paradigm of the unsustainable, of the hubris of the withe old euro- north-american male Architect The architecture of Le Corbusier is like a boot in your face for eternity, no wonder eropeans are so proud of it.
I hate his work with *every* cell of my body, his and the works of the sequel he started, but I'm italian, so probably this means I'm not european - fair enough, I certainly don't recognize myself in anything produced in europe since the last decade of 1800
Everyone in this doc is so tepid... unwilling to take any critical stance. It's all 'comme ci, comme ça.' Hard to sit through this middling commentary. It goes nowhere.
From an Architect---=age 93=--- an idealist who believed that Architecture could make a better world---=350 projects=---=---3599 apartment units............Funny that noone in thje docu mentions that he was a Fascist (in truth not by analogy). We were all influenced by his work and the flamboyant and odd shaped publications bound in a beautiful grainy cloth. He had many acolytes......the same sort of person who idolised "Mies" and are responsible for steel and glass monsters thruout USA. As a young man I visited ALL his buildings. The Church in the South is a true horror especially as an Amerrican one could see all the new-to-me French church architecture from the 11th century forward. I liked the fact that his apartments are long and narrow because that made money for my clients (I am a resonsible person who always measured useable space to exterior s.f.) but I could not deal with HOW narrow and the American equivalent I arrived at was 11 feet cl to cl (i.e./ 10'3") was both practical and human. Concrete walls where one cannot put pictures or hang cupboards are not human. The docu does not cover all those horrible tall thin apt. bldgs in Paris he /imitators did, Look at his contemporary moderns such as Mallet-Stevens for a more exciting modern style. America is now fulll of corrupt Corbu/Mies/Gropius/Breuer(all Fascists by the way and the latter 3 just not fascist enough for Hitler) buildings by badly trained dim-wits. The modern humanists (one above) as Mendelsohn and Fritz Nathan/olthers are ignored in the schools today. My alma mater (Yale) now produces publications in the Full Corbu style which are Graphifcally obtuse (impossible to read) and textually insignificant....Corbu Graphicss and Style.
I am impelled to add: Louis Kahn's (a beloved teacher of mine) early Corbu-influenced work such as Bathhouse, high rise Phila. housing projects. houses and other are now dirty, depressing, horrible to live in and with His later work will be discussed soon. Add Wallace Harrison (once my boss) to the list of Moderns with humanistic bents. Or Ralph Walker ,who I knew, unlikeable,( of Gmelin and Walker) whose vast NYC buildings embellished in Art Decoi design give semblances of poetry and human spirit. (Did HE design them/others?) Prime among modern buildings is Re;liance, in Chicago A true piece of modern poetry ( 1910's?)
As much as I dislike his architecture, I think the remaining of Le Courbusier's buildings is worth being kept as a monument for what we should NOT build for the next 1000 years in the future.
Phoney from the start. The narrator says he felt shocked by Le Corbusier. Really? After growing up and experiencing those buildings from birth he was suddenly shocked by them?
The bookseller indicated that the live-ability of the space was contingent on what people put into it and how they made it serve them. Any space, by that measure, could become heaven or hell.
Brutal by design, brutal by nature and brutal by experience. A design approach much admired by those that never had to live , work or maintain them. And hated by those that had too.
Absolutely correct!b
He was the great smoke seller ever haha.
Deep - Dark - Pure enigmatic brilliance. Certainly way ahead of time. With its geometry, modernism, layring and play of light its too complex to be understood by most people, however it look like a total paradise for people like myself. People who don't believe in flowery and fairy notion of buildings. It is so unique and thought provoking.
I've watched and will be rewatching out of morbid fascination. These buildings seem so cold and harsh, enough to be frightening.
Le Corbusier and Athens Charter very great ideas that just went wrong due to lack of understanding and finance. We have great, and very bad examples of it around the world.
This is so useful and nurturing
Thank you for sharing
The real significance of Corbusier's influence is the most joyless and dehumanising architecture the world has ever seen.
The American architect Richard Meier is a living Le Corbusier , Mr Meier is still designing architecture corbusian
A Clockwork Orange. A continual sense of quiet, palpable dread.
Very well put. I feel that dread as I view this video, but it's hard to identify exactly what causes it.
There will never be anyone like him again .
Thank goodness.
Thank fuck for that
Sorrynotsorry but as much as I've tried I just can't stand the dude. Dark and depressing. Gigantic, overwhelming and designed to make you feel small and push you down. Fascist in character.
great book about him "When the Cathedrals Were White"
The lack of critical thinking in this doco is mind blowing. Is like "he's a genious " nothing else to see here.
I'm am a survivor of Le Corbusier City scape and misery-tecture from a poor country, and I can tell you one thing. There's a few similar architectural objets around we can compare to LC legacy today, cos it is he's legacy! The architecture of the industrial incarceration system widely utilised in north America and the school and universities system wide spread all over.
Also all over Latin America and beyond. LC architecture is the definition and paradigm of the unsustainable, of the hubris of the withe old euro- north-american male Architect
The architecture of Le Corbusier is like a boot in your face for eternity, no wonder eropeans are so proud of it.
My loathing for the man and his work is likewise pretty damn intense.
…and his stinking legacy
He meant well, though.
I hate his work with *every* cell of my body, his and the works of the sequel he started, but I'm italian, so probably this means I'm not european - fair enough, I certainly don't recognize myself in anything produced in europe since the last decade of 1800
@@ericabassi7728intentions, praxis and realities are not necessarily the same. Hitler meant well too as much as Putin does.
Everyone in this doc is so tepid... unwilling to take any critical stance. It's all 'comme ci, comme ça.' Hard to sit through this middling commentary. It goes nowhere.
From an Architect---=age 93=--- an idealist who believed that Architecture could make a better world---=350 projects=---=---3599 apartment units............Funny that noone in thje docu mentions that he was a Fascist (in truth not by analogy).
We were all influenced by his work and the flamboyant and odd shaped publications bound in a beautiful grainy cloth. He had many acolytes......the same sort of person who idolised "Mies" and are responsible for steel and glass monsters thruout USA. As a young man I visited ALL his buildings. The Church in the South is a true horror especially as an Amerrican one could see all the new-to-me French church architecture from the 11th century forward.
I liked the fact that his apartments are long and narrow because that made money for my clients (I am a resonsible person who always measured useable space to exterior s.f.) but I could not deal with HOW narrow and the American equivalent I arrived at was 11 feet cl to cl (i.e./ 10'3") was both practical and human. Concrete walls where one cannot put pictures or hang cupboards are not human. The docu does not cover all those horrible tall thin apt. bldgs in Paris he /imitators did, Look at his contemporary moderns such as Mallet-Stevens for a more exciting modern style. America is now fulll of corrupt Corbu/Mies/Gropius/Breuer(all Fascists by the way and the latter 3 just not fascist enough for Hitler) buildings by badly trained dim-wits. The modern humanists (one above) as Mendelsohn and Fritz Nathan/olthers are ignored in the schools today. My alma mater (Yale) now produces publications in the Full Corbu style which are Graphifcally obtuse (impossible to read) and textually insignificant....Corbu Graphicss and Style.
I am impelled to add: Louis Kahn's (a beloved teacher of mine) early Corbu-influenced work such as Bathhouse, high rise Phila. housing projects. houses and other are now dirty, depressing, horrible to live in and with His later work will be discussed soon. Add Wallace Harrison (once my boss) to the list of Moderns with humanistic bents. Or Ralph Walker ,who I knew, unlikeable,( of Gmelin and Walker) whose vast NYC buildings embellished in Art Decoi design give semblances of poetry and human spirit. (Did HE design them/others?) Prime among modern buildings is Re;liance, in Chicago A true piece of modern poetry ( 1910's?)
Ominous music, monolithic buildings, grim apartments, talk of community, but no evidence of it.
Disney tried the same concept in Florida but never finished it. Turns out Walt's fantasy was rather fascistic.
The musical composition part...good lord...what did Le Corbusier do to deserve that? The docu is good thou.
Air, though the song is pathetic.
As much as I dislike his architecture, I think the remaining of Le Courbusier's buildings is worth being kept as a monument for what we should NOT build for the next 1000 years in the future.
Phoney from the start. The narrator says he felt shocked by Le Corbusier. Really? After growing up and experiencing those buildings from birth he was suddenly shocked by them?
So this guy is responsible for so many ugly buildings and unlivable spaces.
The bookseller indicated that the live-ability of the space was contingent on what people put into it and how they made it serve them. Any space, by that measure, could become heaven or hell.
Thanks for sharing.