Constructing A Building From Found Blueprints

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  • Опубликовано: 15 июн 2022
  • In 2021, Indiana University opened a new building for the Eskenazi School of Architecture, a 10,000 sf administrative space with offices and conference rooms. The floating white steel structure bears all the hallmarks of a building designed by Mies van der Rohe. That is because it was designed by Mies, sixty-five years earlier as a Pi Lamda Phi fraternity house. The largely forgotten design was rediscovered, redrawn by the firm Thomas Phiffer and Partners, and constructed with some modern updates, but mostly just as Mies would have wanted it. This video traces the evolution of this building's design and construction all the while questioning the role of authorship and originality in Architecture.
    Corrections:
    01:09 Indiana University, not University of Indiana. I will make this mistake throughout.
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Комментарии • 750

  • @garrickballard4108
    @garrickballard4108 2 года назад +442

    As part of the team that built this project it turned out to be one of my finest. The structural Steel as shown in the video was started in our shop and completed in the field on site to make it look the way it does. As with most all of Shelby Coatings, Inc. projects this is my "last" new construction project because after 48 years of doing special coatings I'm retiring. So it is fitting to see this project done and love the video, great job.
    Garrick B

    • @temper44
      @temper44 Год назад +4

      I would humbly suggest that you make one last project, a country house replica of this, on a hill top somewhere. All that light!

    • @thebankchanneltv
      @thebankchanneltv Год назад +4

      A fantastic legacy you leave as your last project! Its beautiful, congrats.

    • @theexmann
      @theexmann Год назад

      Very cool. Did you get to sign your name anywhere on that steel?

    • @andylam73
      @andylam73 Год назад +1

      u have done a great job garrick

    • @TheRealBrook1968
      @TheRealBrook1968 Год назад

      I am not an architect but my work in a former career life required that I created the vision and thousands of hours conveying that vision and hammering out details. I considered the final products to have sprung from my own mind. Do you consider truly great structures to be conceived of consensus or born of an individual's vision and birthed by a team?

  • @adsilcott
    @adsilcott 2 года назад +349

    One thing I kept thinking of as I watched this: if Mies had still been around to oversee the construction of this building, he would have had to make many of the same concessions to his original plans that were made here. I wonder if he would have been as thoughtful about adapting it to his original vision, or, since he would have more of a sense of ownership over the design, if he would have made more drastic changes to accommodate modern standards and regulations.

    • @bradevans7935
      @bradevans7935 2 года назад +8

      I wondered the same while watching this. This design was cutting-edge when originally drawn, and not a lot was known about how this style of building would perform in the real world. Surely he would have developed it even further with access to current knowledge and materials.

    • @BrooksMoses
      @BrooksMoses Год назад +13

      And, if the building had been built in the 1950s as he intended it then, many of these changes would have been made as it was maintained through the years.

    • @weatheranddarkness
      @weatheranddarkness Год назад +5

      @@BrooksMoses That's an interesting point. If the owners had not been able/willing to keep it "as is" it's likely that post facto changes would have changed it much much more significantly from its original lines/volumes.

    • @theexmann
      @theexmann Год назад

      In the video it implies that later blue prints seemed to have included more modern changes like the kind of material that he might have ended up using for the casing on the windows. So, yes, he would have opted to use some of the latest materials and techniques of the day.

    • @TheJhtlag
      @TheJhtlag Год назад

      Well, to be specific, I'm guessing the stairway design needed to be wider in case of fire or other disaster, given that the design is simplicity and functionality that should not have been too much of a problem. Guessing most of those changes would be safety considerations which are neutral changes to the esthetic. (Frank Lloyd Wright no so much, they're still trying to fix his places)

  • @amybushman2298
    @amybushman2298 2 года назад +53

    I go to Indiana and this explains a lot about this new building on campus! Everyone thought it was a very odd design for a new building and a strange use of space when expansion always seams to be the case at IU. Very cool to learn more about the history!

    • @eily_b
      @eily_b Год назад +1

      Odd design? It's beautiful!

  • @jatdesign4495
    @jatdesign4495 2 года назад +112

    Kind of like the Taliesin Associated Architects who would build some Wright’s unbuilt works but modify them to the client needs, site, and codes.

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 2 года назад +1

      Yep, one of them was in the soon be a named part of Madison, in the town of Middleton Wisconsin where Frank Lloyd Wright lived some of his last years. The Convention center that was to be built on the main lake.

    • @jatdesign4495
      @jatdesign4495 2 года назад +1

      @@caseysmith544 Manona Terrace, I may have misspelled that.
      It’s a beautiful structure that is exactly what Wright wanted. The lights were to be the zodiac signs with the middle globe to represent the sun.

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 2 года назад

      @@jatdesign4495 Yep was there for the Kite festival in 1999 and then in 2000 when a guy broke the world record for largest Kite that later Japan really took the record with a whole town. Also some people way out on the lake set the new ice skate kite skiing speed record as well as an ice skate wind surfing record. Odd sport where they take often older lightly messed up bottom wind surfing boards and attached 4 sets of the blades from hockey ice skates on them to ride.

    • @mrchrisliddell
      @mrchrisliddell 2 года назад +1

      I worked in one of their buildings, Ruth Eckerd Hall, and it was a delight to behold.

    • @Audion
      @Audion Год назад +1

      Such as The Usonian House at Florida Southern College in Lakeland, Florida.

  • @larrybird8536
    @larrybird8536 2 года назад +27

    I lived a stones throw away from this building last year and got to see most of the process of it being built and it was super cool

  • @capability-snob
    @capability-snob 2 года назад +21

    I love how you've asked questions about provenance and yet it still reads like a love letter to van der Rowe. Great take.

  • @eugenetrollip751
    @eugenetrollip751 2 года назад +242

    You always let me think critically about buildings. There is no doubt that this is a Mies van der Rohe building even if it has been modernized to comply with present day regulations. Although architecture is an art form, it is the only art form that is subjected to change over time, depending on the initial value of the design. This is a prime example. It still has the character initially intended by Mies, but adapted to modern day use. Being an art form, I think it is important to credit the designer even if an entire team worked to realize the vision. Construction drawings are instructions to the builder and there should be little room for 'interpretation' by the contractor.

    • @mtgibbs
      @mtgibbs 2 года назад +6

      Apropos to your comment about architecture being subject to change over time, many buildings are remodeled/modified over time to adapt to the current needs of the occupants and to update them to current codes and standards. But I would suggest that (unless they are heavily modified/stripped of their original aesthetic) they are still in essence the building designed by the original architect.

    • @darthandeddeu
      @darthandeddeu 2 года назад +1

      @@mtgibbs
      Modeling and knowledge is more widespread and there are solutions that are not as invasive to the original design. Compared to when it was designed.
      Better Heating and cooling systems, better and lighter flat roofing, Glas that is way way better. Etc

    • @mtgibbs
      @mtgibbs 2 года назад +5

      @@darthandeddeu Absolutely, but there are times when the floor plan needs to change, such as for adaptive re-use or a different occupant needs more of one type of space and less of another. One nice feature of Mies' plans, for instance, is the standard grid size which gives the space flexibility.

    • @ChaplainDMK
      @ChaplainDMK 2 года назад +5

      It's the same with music or any other art form where you have a plan and the have others reproduce it. Music will have notations and sheet music, but every time it is played it is interpreted by the performers - either through the selection of the instruments, the dyamnics of the performance, the energy, or even just reinterpretation of certain parts or even entire songs to fit a new style.
      Back etc. aren't played the same they were the first time, likely they are played radically differently due to changes in even fundamentals such as instrument tuning.

    • @sharksport01
      @sharksport01 2 года назад +3

      Arent most/all art forms are subjected to change over time?

  • @B2BWide
    @B2BWide 2 года назад +15

    I don't know how many of us observed that he speaks about Mies van der Rohe while sitting on a Barcelona chair-and also the look of the patio chairs echoing the Barcelona chair structure.
    Stewart Hicks is my favourite in architecture videos! Thank you Sir!

  • @IOUaUsername
    @IOUaUsername 2 года назад +423

    Show me an architect who successfully designed an entire building in all its detail such that no engineer, builder, plumber etc had to make changes or design parts of it themselves. That's all they did here, change what needed to be changed to make the building work. The only difference is they didn't have to waste months sending emails back and forth to the architect because he wasn't still around.

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem Год назад

      Mart Stam!
      Mies just copied that style!

    • @ifyourmarriedyourasimpanda7440
      @ifyourmarriedyourasimpanda7440 Год назад +12

      Show me an engineer who has designed something that isn't a pain in the ass to repair 😑

    • @LucasFernandez-fk8se
      @LucasFernandez-fk8se Год назад +5

      I’m sure there are plenty of buildings like that but honestly as someone in architecture school right now I’d rather just let the engineers go at it then bother with things that are boring and that I know little about. I mean we LEARNED how to do SOME of that but I’d rather let the professionals handle it and tweak their finished work to be more “aesthetic” then to send electrical plans and HVAC plans back and forth even though I don’t think those plans are interesting at all

    • @jmz388
      @jmz388 Год назад +6

      Handymen think architecture is easy
      Not soo….

    • @nunyabidness3075
      @nunyabidness3075 Год назад +2

      I did that.
      So kidding, I did data center architecture (which in no way means i designed data centers 😂🤣😂🤣🤣)

  • @MiamiMarkYT
    @MiamiMarkYT 2 года назад +44

    To most (myself included): it’s clearly a Mies Van Der Rohe. And to the those few that it’s not; I think it’s impossible to see it as anything less than a passionate and faithful love letter to one of the most important architects of a generation.

    • @YeOldeGeezer
      @YeOldeGeezer Год назад

      I thought it was a Wright building at first

    • @ingvarhallstrom2306
      @ingvarhallstrom2306 Год назад

      I identified it as a Mies van der Rohe from the thumbnail alone even before I knew what the video was all about.

  • @BorderlineBraindead
    @BorderlineBraindead 2 года назад +5

    I was not expecting to see a video today about a building I've had classes in

  • @roundedosu
    @roundedosu Год назад +13

    i am absolutely stunned by Mies' work. i don't know how he makes these rectangular boxes interesting and makes them stand out. this seems like an amazing space to be in and i think this old project got taken care of really well

    • @largol33t1
      @largol33t1 Год назад +1

      This design is fascinating because it has so much potential. It could be left flat on the ground to make it a residence. The high-rise stilts offer protection from floods and it would look "at home" on the beaches of Miami or in the metro areas of Las Vegas or modern Dallas. He was far ahead of his time.

    • @ingvarhallstrom2306
      @ingvarhallstrom2306 Год назад +1

      Classicist proportion. All the early modernists were scholars of Palladio, it is clearly evident in the way they handle harmony and proportion. There's a simple elegance to their work that makes them timeless beauties.

  • @anothersettlementneedsyour9628
    @anothersettlementneedsyour9628 2 года назад +88

    I’m not an architect, but this is one of my favorite channels to currently watch on youtube, because of the quality and how it’s just so well presented that it’s almost just as calming as it’s informational. It makes me appreciate my surroundings more than ever.
    If you ever ran out of ideas, I think a video about the urban planning in communist countries would be interesting for many who still live in those (me included). Or a video about Buckminster Fuller would be cool. I know there are some already, but none I’ve seen were as good as yours would be.

    • @BS-vx8dg
      @BS-vx8dg 2 года назад +1

      I think Stewart could talk about anything from almonds to zebras and I'd enjoy listening to him talk.

    • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
      @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 2 года назад +2

      I remember seeing a couple of Buckminister Fuller’s ball houses in a vintage Omni mag I found as a kid, & a couple years later there was a Northern Exposure character that had one in a later season. I’d love to know more about those things.

    • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
      @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 2 года назад +1

      Also I wish I could remember more than “Preston” “Minuteman” & “Sanctuary” about where your pfp comes from so I could make a rad in-joke about your inevitable construction stylings in the Wasteland...but alas I am too dumb. Oh no...now I probably have to go quest for a punchline...

    • @BS-vx8dg
      @BS-vx8dg 2 года назад +1

      @@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 I lived in a remote town in Alaska 40 years ago and someone had one of those in town. Its diameter, I would guess, was almost 30 feet. Most of the pictures I've seen of them were transparent, but this was not.

  • @CityPlannerPlaysChair
    @CityPlannerPlaysChair 2 года назад +5

    I was Pilam in college. They can't have nice things so this makes sense haha

  • @b.walker5955
    @b.walker5955 2 года назад +6

    While I thoroughly enjoyed the Mies van der Rohe experience, what will stay with me longer is your brilliant delivery and skill of objectivity. Thank you for the lesson, lifelong will it last.

  • @ellipsis...1986
    @ellipsis...1986 2 года назад +22

    Thank you for all your uploads Stewart. It's a fascinating insight into the architecture world.

  • @Brian-os9qj
    @Brian-os9qj 2 года назад +6

    Fascinated to discover how exciting architecture has captured my imagination late in life. There is time to appreciate it, and I am. Thank you for this and it’s wonderful presentation.

  • @michaelgreenslade7260
    @michaelgreenslade7260 2 года назад +15

    I would definitely say that would be an authentic Mies van der Rohe design. Considering the provenance so design and the blessing by the family and the attention to detail! Hooray for the Indiana university Bloomington

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem Год назад

      This is not art, just construction skills, include the constructors in the design.
      Mart Stam just used the materials that were available back then. Mies used that design, enhanced it.
      Build that now? Art?
      We can do better designs now, we do have way better skills, able to use any materials!
      Keep building Barcelona buildings, keep using these chairs too ???

  • @julianlineham
    @julianlineham 2 года назад +5

    Fantastic video. As a structural engineer I love the floor hanger system. Thomas’ team did an exquisite job with the original design.

    • @reece8224
      @reece8224 Год назад

      I love hearing engineers say they love the unique, hard solutions, and design intent - so refreshing, I’ve worked with many engineers who are really against anything but W-flanges and 90 degree boxes

  • @migrantfamily
    @migrantfamily 2 года назад +5

    My Pa was a construction engineer who dabbled in architecture. He dismantled a log house and rebuilt it at a new site. He has been dead six years now, and we as a family keep the build going, trying to stick to his vision while accommodating needs that he hadn’t thought of. A building is never quite finished, or it’s dead.

  • @cassidydavidson286
    @cassidydavidson286 2 года назад +2

    As an IU alum I loved hearing about the new development around campus. As a Midwest native, I was initially confused about where this building was located - with Illinois and Indiana both having a town named Bloomington, and the naming differences of the schools (Universty of Illinois vs Indiana University). I watched this on my TV but came to my computer to see if any other viewers noticed this. I appreciate your due diligence of adding the correction to the description! Overall great content.

  • @lisakilmer2667
    @lisakilmer2667 2 года назад +12

    Well, that's another interesting video! I think the new building could be called a "Mies" building, because even though an architect doesn't actually build his or her project, neither does a clothing designer actually stitch the garment, but his or her name is on the label. In music, adjustments are called "arrangements" so a Mozart piece could be "arranged by" someone else, for instance for school orchestras. Perhaps with a major update such as the Eskenazi School of Architecture building, joint "authorship" might be appropriately assigned.

  • @javiermedina7663
    @javiermedina7663 2 года назад +4

    You’re what I wish my professors were

  • @elizabethduffy2145
    @elizabethduffy2145 2 года назад +6

    I’d be interested in what you think of House of an Art Lover, a Mackintosh house built in the 90s, and the potential rebuild of the Glasgow Art School which burned down… twice…

  • @shesthebethest
    @shesthebethest 2 года назад +9

    I am so happy that I found your channel. Your videos are so well done and so interesting. Thanks for cresting them! I'm surprised this one is only 13 minutes and there's so much there to think about.

  • @nicolebonet6119
    @nicolebonet6119 2 года назад +5

    These videos are absolutely incredible! I have no idea how you come up with all these unique ideas

  • @unreliablenarrator6649
    @unreliablenarrator6649 2 года назад +3

    As an industrial architect/designer, where I specialize in multi-story clean room projects, I assure you that on our side of the profession we often build top-down with complex infrastructure requiring interior box within a box design & construction. BTW, fab der Rohe was a inspiration to me and my homage to him is a multipurpose visitor/meeting center on an industrial campus that put a small postage stamp of human scale on a site where 6m floors in concrete dominate the landscape.

  • @fimbulsummer
    @fimbulsummer Год назад

    That umbrella form is just perfection to me. ❤

  • @brucewilkinson8599
    @brucewilkinson8599 2 года назад +7

    Growing up in Chicago I was deep influenced to become an architect, first because of Frank Lloyd Wright and the by Miles van der Rohe, and their modern looks. Hopefully today more students of architecture will pay more attention to the power of various schools of design to understand how these older architects got a lot of design ideas correct.

  • @steven.l.patterson
    @steven.l.patterson 2 года назад +6

    Interesting, I’ll have to check it out.
    This reminds me of the Pavilion for Japanese Art at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art (LACMA).
    Bruce Goff first designed it for a site in Bartlesville OK, then as an addition to the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York. Then Goff died.
    His former apprentice Bart Prince took Goff’s design and adapted it for LA. Granted this opened to the public within 6 years of Goff’s passing. Prince is the architect of record, but everyone considers it a Goff design.

    • @risk5riskmks93
      @risk5riskmks93 2 года назад +1

      Was just looking at this building last week. Did not know this. Thank you!

  • @charpnatl
    @charpnatl 2 года назад +11

    This video brought me so much joy today! Thank You! It’s fascinating how this building came to be born so long after it was planned. Honestly i can’t image it as a Frat House.

    • @BS-vx8dg
      @BS-vx8dg 2 года назад +7

      There's more than a couple of fraternities that might not have gotten in the trouble they encountered if they lived in a Glass Frat House.

    • @mistert7958
      @mistert7958 Месяц назад

      OnlyFans certainly comes to mind.

  • @tallief1620
    @tallief1620 2 года назад +2

    I cannot understate how much I love your videos. I moved to Iowa recently and love visiting all the little treasures in the Midwest (American Gothic house last week!), so this is on my list right next to the secret sky barn now!!!

  • @rinorsaiti
    @rinorsaiti 2 года назад +3

    I'm a big fan of Mies, and really like when you cover his work!
    Thank you for introducing me to Thomas Phifer and Partners.

  • @Ocarafeio
    @Ocarafeio 2 года назад +1

    Im a architect from Brazil and im binge watching all your vídeos. Great Work man !

  • @bc8714
    @bc8714 2 года назад +4

    Can you make a series about different famous architects, their work, design philosophy, and impact to contemporary architecture.

    • @bc8714
      @bc8714 2 года назад +2

      Love your videos btw

    • @stewarthicks
      @stewarthicks  2 года назад +2

      I'd love to! Sounds a little costly though...

    • @RenierRivas
      @RenierRivas Год назад

      What for, there’s HUNDREDS of videos like it already

  • @Spencergundersenmusic
    @Spencergundersenmusic 2 года назад +1

    Wow that ending statement was so good. I love to think about the group effort that goes into turning each building into a masterwork.

  • @Salohkin11
    @Salohkin11 2 года назад +6

    Your videos provide interesting insights into architecture that I had never considered, thanks!

  • @larrynguyen85
    @larrynguyen85 2 года назад

    Really enjoyed watching this and appreciate its lucidity and thoughtfulness. The conclusion you made at the end about authorship and outdated tropes of the "lone genius" are spot-on and very eloquently stated. Thank you!

  • @crispyglove
    @crispyglove 2 года назад +4

    A bit off topic, but I'd love to see a video on Richardsonian Romanesque. Being as you're based in Chicago, an examination of the John J. Glessner House would be very interesting.

  • @jked7463
    @jked7463 2 года назад

    It is a team effort but without that architect's vision and drive, the building will never be more than the sum of it's parts. In your analogy, the architect is both the composer and the conductor using many people to create his vision. All great art, even if many hands touch it, is the product of that one visionary. All art is that way, whether paintings, sculptures, automobiles or architecture, the truly great examples have a single mind guiding everyone else along to create the masterpiece.

  • @SaiSantoshMARU
    @SaiSantoshMARU 2 года назад +1

    Brilliant. Especially the last couple of statments!

  • @agntdrake
    @agntdrake 2 года назад +13

    I have the opposite problem. I own/live in an early Eichler home which was built before Joseph Eichler teamed up with Anshen & Allen to create Eichler's iconic mid-century homes. It was designed after Eichler had become inspired by FLW and his vision for Usonian homes. The house itself is built with a raised foundation (vs. a slab) and has central HVAC (vs. radiant heating), doesn't have a central courtyard, but still has a flat roof, large plate glass windows, and a lot of the other features which Anshen & Allen went on to use in their designs. Is the house an Eichler? Maybe a Likeler by Eichler?
    My take on this is it honestly doesn't matter. I love the house and homes are meant to be lived in. I've also had to bring the house up to code (like adding insulation, redoing the plumbing, electrical, asbestos disposal, etc), and to add an addition to make it work for a family in the 21st century vs. mid-20th century. How much of the house is new vs. "original"?

    • @moxielouise
      @moxielouise 2 года назад +1

      I would be so interested in a video tour of your home. i can both visualize and not visualize it at the same time by your description. You make me so curious to see and learn more

    • @jasonreed7522
      @jasonreed7522 2 года назад +2

      Its a very "ship of Theseus" problem, and my answer as an engineer it that it doesn't matter. A design is only good if it serves the needs of the client (in this case, you as the home owner), and you have done remodeling (maybe contracted out to professional designers) to update the design to suit your new needs. (Meeting code, more space, ect)
      Some architects design monuments to themselves, good architects design for their client's needs. (including planning for future needs, an example of an EE doing this is oversizing a main service so that in 10yrs when the building expands they have capacity and don't need to spend a bunch of money upgrading the service)

  • @michaeltres
    @michaeltres 2 года назад +6

    Thank you for this excellent video. You mentioned music existing at a remove from the creator, but there are many examples in the plastic arts as well. Bronze sculptures are executed by craftsmen, not by the artist, from castings or other intermediary processes apart from the original design. Rodin even authorized posthumous castings of his bronzes. Chihuli farms out all his pieces, and he has not personally blown a single piece of glass in decades, although he isn't the best example, given the recent controversies around his work. Warhol worked with a team to execute his pieces. Examples abound throughout the art world.

  • @jakebailey7176
    @jakebailey7176 Год назад

    As a student at IU I can say I love walking past this building everyday and whenever I have a major project it's where I study. Glad to have found this video.

  • @oliviaboisselier9837
    @oliviaboisselier9837 2 года назад +2

    Hello from Bloomington! It's beautiful to explore here; come to visit.

  • @alexignatow5420
    @alexignatow5420 2 года назад +3

    I love the idea of architectural replication as a way of representing architecture. Just as the architect has to pay special attention to how they represent their vision in their work (drawings and renders), those who are trying to replicate architecture from those who have passed also have to pay attention to this. After all, the replication is in and of itself a form of representation, and that's pretty interesting. Loved the video!

  • @christopherstephenjenksbsg4944
    @christopherstephenjenksbsg4944 2 года назад +22

    I am not a huge fan of Mies. The only building by him that I really love is the Barcelona Pavilion which, in its current form, is a reproduction itself, not the original structure. Despite that, I still think it's an authentic Mies building. By the same token I think that the Indiana University building can be considered an authentic Mies building, but only to a certain degree. One thing you don't highlight is the difference in function. The new building is an administrative center, not a frat house. This necessarily changes the interior. I think the building can be justly called "Miesian", but it isn't Mies. It does demonstrate, however, that Mies' buildings are "universal spaces" that can be adapted to many different uses.
    I think your point about the collaborative nature of architectural design is very well taken. Once the design of monumental buildings was separated from the actual building process during the Renaissance, this division has existed, although builders working on vernacular structures continued to be both designers and builders for many centuries to come. It wasn't until the end of the 19th century that the Principals of an architectural firm oversaw and critiqued the work of their staff architects, but didn't do much in the way of actual designing themselves, although there were and are exceptions to this approach. For any large building it would now be impossible, but for smaller residential or commercial buildings individual architects can play a much larger role.

    • @BS-vx8dg
      @BS-vx8dg 2 года назад +4

      Thank you, Christopher; your comment added much value to an already interesting video.

    • @joaoerlacher
      @joaoerlacher 2 года назад +2

      Love you comment, but I disagree just a little with you. If Mies was designing an administrative center the final project would be completely different from that. That is only a recreation based on Mies`s design, a token for Indiana University. And you highlighted the greatest point of this building and discussion, how "adaptable" Mies design is.
      At the same time what a waste of resources on an outdated design. Buildings are an image of its time, they reflect how people live, what materials they had, the technologies of their period etc. This building means nothing to our time, probably isnt energy efficient with all those glass façades. I studied in IIT and Rohe built a bunch of those buildings around the same principles and, while Crown Hall is quite nice, applying the same things to the gym is bs! During summer, the basketball courts with no ventilation and all that glass were hotter than an oven.
      That is not the "best design" (although that doenst exists) they could have for a recreation center. They wanted the Mies brand, but this building adds nothing to Mies legacy.

    • @BS-vx8dg
      @BS-vx8dg 2 года назад +3

      @@joaoerlacher An interesting and well-argued perspective. I'm an architectural ignoramus, but I actually don't think it's necessary to "know" architecture to have an intelligent opinion on a question like this which is, at its core, philosophical rather than architectural. And the way I feel is . . . . *appreciative* ! This has been a fascinating discussion, and I'm not sure how I feel, but João, you've added much to what I've already taken in on this discussion. Thank you for helping me continue thinking.

    • @joaoerlacher
      @joaoerlacher 2 года назад +2

      @@BS-vx8dg And you are absolutely right, you dont need to "know" architecture to have opinion about it, I mean you live in buildings so you have firsthand experiences about them, us architects only have more time and experience to think a bit more and deeply about it. But that is a beautiful thing about architecture EVERYONE knows a little about it, and that is why Stewart has the best architecture and urban design channel on RUclips because he brings all those discussions both for architects and non-architects.
      Have a good one BMJS!

    • @word42069
      @word42069 2 года назад

      @@joaoerlacher You make valid points but I would disagree that the project is a “waste of resources” as you put it. haha. Obviously Mies’s work carries weight so of course if given the opportunity, a university is going to build one of his designs on their campus. I think it’s an interesting project as it reminds us that Architects make instructions for buildings, not the buildings themselves… so just because a project is carried out after the architect’s death doesn’t mean it is not valid or legitimate. The point of the video is authorship in architecture, not so much “is this design worth constructing 50 years later”. One could argue that many famous architects barely contribute to projects that go through their office even while alive. So many people work on an architectural design far more than partners (generally speaking). One of the greatest faults in the practice of architecture is the frequent overemphasis on the individual star designer.. telling is that frequently firms with great design work usually have people leave who go on to become successful designers at their own firms… look at FLW at Louis Sullivan’s practice. Anyway, by today’s standards yes, this project would have been built completely differently and be much more efficient… but then again it also would have probably been much larger maxing out the site… and potentially just as “wasteful” of not more. This brings us to the discussion of whether or not architects are designers in the sense that are we supposed to just resolve multiple requirements and build things as maximally and efficiently (money and energy) as possible or to actually evoke something by pushing a coherent design language and then doing the aforementioned resolving? Architecture is balance. I think that this project is cool because it shows how much more efficient a Mies project could be made with today’s technology and materials. It brings up interesting pondering about how much differently Mies’s entire design language may have been if he were to design today.

  • @Dumptheclutchevo
    @Dumptheclutchevo 2 года назад +15

    As someone that loves architecture, yet is not one, I feel that if an architect (or his/her team) design a building (and he/she signs off on it), then it is the work of that architect. As far as i'm concerned, architecture isn't just designing and drawing plans. It is about the location, the situation, the environment, in which those plans will be built. Therefore, you can take the plans of an architect, and build to those plans elsewhere, but if they were not drawn for that piece of land, then it's not of that architect. You could call it 'initially designed by...' or something, but I don't know if I could call it fully by said architect.
    But that's just me, idk...

  • @spicynoodle888
    @spicynoodle888 2 года назад

    I agree full heartedly with your questions about authorship (not only in architecture but in many of the disciplines). It is time we abandon the myth of the sole creator genius and recognize the collaborative effort involved in the creation of such works. IMO it doesn't diminish the role of people like Mies, but acknowledges the contributions of all those involved. Your students are lucky to have you. Your videos are so well put together and the topics are compelling. Thanks for all your hard work.

  • @Kbarboza94
    @Kbarboza94 Год назад +1

    Thank you for your content. You’re one of my favorite RUclips channels

  • @ericvillla
    @ericvillla 2 года назад +2

    these are so awesome. I had no idea I liked architecture until I started watching your videos this week

  • @rodrigovargas1910
    @rodrigovargas1910 2 года назад +1

    I love the quality of your videos!

  • @melissareid640
    @melissareid640 Год назад

    Beautiful. Stunning.

  • @EyeLean5280
    @EyeLean5280 2 года назад +7

    Yes, we should build the designs but there should be a law that such buildings include a plaque explaining that it's a posthumous build and including the names of any/all architects involved in design changes or additions.

    • @jasonreed7522
      @jasonreed7522 2 года назад +2

      If your going to do that then you better also include all the engineers who made the design functional. Not architect has the ability to make a design from start to finish so perfectly complete and detailed that all the structural, MEP, process, ect drawings needed 0 changes from the PEs who stamped them. (Because the training alone would take longer than med school, and the design process would take ages, tally up all the hours billed to a single project and its years) The entire design team, often distributed across multiple firms, rightfully feels a sense of ownership for a successful design.
      And most importantly, a design is only good iff it serves the client's needs.

  • @Trance88
    @Trance88 Год назад

    This is so cool! I wish there were more buildings like this. New, Mid-century buildings that were adapted from old blueprints.

  • @arjunchakravarti1015
    @arjunchakravarti1015 2 года назад +1

    Superbly done

  • @gramirez72
    @gramirez72 Год назад

    I appreciate the correlation with a music composition. I’m a composer/orchestrator, when I was in school my teacher often talked about a piece in architectural terms. And, interestingly, I do love architecture, I wanted to become an architect growing up, but became a musician instead. I still love staring at buildings in awe. I live in Los Angeles - the Frank Gehry designed Walt Disney Concert Hall is one of my favorite structures. It’s a stunning piece of design and construction. And sound!

  • @lilybird1462
    @lilybird1462 2 года назад +1

    This is on my campus, I went to the open house when it opened. I dream that before I graduate I will be able to sit and paint inside on a rainystormy day, its so relaxing to be in that building.

  • @sofia_c_1
    @sofia_c_1 2 года назад +2

    I really liked this one, thank you for the video!

  • @ClimbingEasy
    @ClimbingEasy 2 года назад +1

    Mr. Hicks, in a short video you have detailed aspects of Mies I have yet to see in any other video. This is a quick macro and micro view on Mies. Very cool and thank you.

  • @bricksloth6920
    @bricksloth6920 2 года назад +11

    I saw this building today. Didn't know it existed, but I recognized the design as soon as I saw it and was very surprised by it. I pointed it out to my daughter as "look, real architecture". Then I came home and discovered you'd posted this video to explain what it was and the story behind it

  • @goudagirl6095
    @goudagirl6095 Год назад

    OMG MORE OF THESE HOMES PLEASE!!!

  • @susanmark2000
    @susanmark2000 Год назад

    Simply perfect!

  • @OlavAlexanderMjelde
    @OlavAlexanderMjelde Год назад

    This really shows the value of an good archive too.

  • @jobellecollie7139
    @jobellecollie7139 Год назад

    Stunning!

  • @nolano6072
    @nolano6072 Год назад

    I love this building as a student at IU. Emailed eskenazi to thank him and he replied!

  • @Ehunteman
    @Ehunteman Год назад

    This is so cool. I did not know the designs were so old. I was just there as I'm going to IU as a freshman this fall. It's a very cool building in person and compared to the buildings around it, definitely stands out.

  • @dturk1022
    @dturk1022 Год назад

    What a beautiful orchestration of the original architects design and intent.

  • @drdisco5827
    @drdisco5827 Год назад

    Beautiful work

  • @theilliad4298
    @theilliad4298 2 года назад +1

    His work is some of the best in history.

  • @surfthejapstrat7010
    @surfthejapstrat7010 2 года назад

    This was truly a fantastic project to be a part of.

  • @carloselias9697
    @carloselias9697 2 года назад

    Amazing
    Hopefully we see more of this style!

  • @wlacosta
    @wlacosta 2 года назад

    another instand hood classic, Stewart. Thanks for all that you do

  • @PieterBreda
    @PieterBreda Год назад +1

    It is a marvelous design. I love it

  • @Mikemenn
    @Mikemenn Год назад +1

    Not sure how RUclips decided your video should so as a suggestion, but glad it did. This is a very interesting video and I'm glad I watched. Thanks.

  • @playgemji
    @playgemji Год назад

    Love the building and how you filmed the story 🙌

  • @sandrovanderhulst8143
    @sandrovanderhulst8143 2 года назад +1

    Really great and interesting video man!!

  • @BostonMark
    @BostonMark Год назад +1

    Love the crossover interpretation of other arts that parallels architecture

  • @juijev192
    @juijev192 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for this video, it's really good. Is there any footage of the construction available elsewhere? Would be really cool if someone had made a documentary about the whole process

  • @RyanJohnsonD
    @RyanJohnsonD Год назад

    Great video. Really good points on all the people who are involved in the influence of the finished product.

  • @athos1974
    @athos1974 Год назад

    That's a nice bright sunshiny mid-century building.
    Very clean lines.

  • @sittingstill3578
    @sittingstill3578 2 года назад +2

    Thank you Stewart. I found your presentation of this building fascinating. I wonder if the modern additions to meet code could be viewed as a more _human_ and livability alterations that Mies would have adapted to and developed further if he were alive to oversee construction.

  • @nealsidor1323
    @nealsidor1323 2 года назад +2

    Yes, just as it is during their time on earth, it is their work on paper that is completed by the builder.
    It is , if nothing else, a fitting tribute to their genius. and an honor to their legacy.

  • @urielalbertosanchezm
    @urielalbertosanchezm 2 года назад +1

    A marvel, nicely adapted!

  • @ruzzelladrian907
    @ruzzelladrian907 2 года назад +1

    Beautiful design.

  • @TomCelar
    @TomCelar Год назад

    That was very cool to watch, thank you

  • @sahs3811
    @sahs3811 Год назад

    Found this channel by accident, so great full for RUclips recommendations!

  • @Iwantbatteries
    @Iwantbatteries Год назад +1

    I haven’t finished watching this but my immediate response is: this looks identical to the Air Force Academy dorms!

  • @thesilentone4024
    @thesilentone4024 2 года назад +2

    Really not a bad design i love it.
    Soo much space light places for a garden and trees mmmm love it.
    It does need the middle to be open like a yard mybe a small salt pool in the middle next to some kind of garden.

  • @abeining
    @abeining Год назад

    Great video! Thank you.

  • @malinp4491
    @malinp4491 2 года назад +1

    It looks very Mies and very Farns-worthy. Love it

  • @mishmohd
    @mishmohd Год назад +1

    I like the idea of a hovering floor.

  • @kevcal7
    @kevcal7 2 года назад +1

    Terrific!

  • @JohnnyWishbone85
    @JohnnyWishbone85 Год назад

    I think the comparison of architecture and building to music is particularly apt. Each stage of realizing the terminal expression of a design is its own art form. The design is an art. The interpretation is an art. Each of the disciplines involved in execution is an art form. Architecture and music are compound art forms, and each are a team sport.

  • @knarf_on_a_bike
    @knarf_on_a_bike 2 года назад +1

    I love your music analogy. Bach's Cello Suites are still Bach, whether played by Rostropovich, Yo-Yo Ma, Jacqueline du Pré or Cassels.
    That's a Mies van der Rohe. And it is stunning!

  • @bobbydelcavallo7181
    @bobbydelcavallo7181 Год назад

    Absolutely amazing 🥳🥳🥳

  • @kylenevel8809
    @kylenevel8809 2 года назад +2

    I remember going to Taliesin West for a school field trip in elementary school (this was a while ago so I could be misremembering details and intentions as well) and the tour guide told us how Frank Lloyd Wright would sometimes give his apprentices a small sum of money to build the desert dwellings that (I hope) are still on the property.
    It wasn't even enough money to buy materials so this would encourage apprentices to collaborate on the design, look for financial support from outside benefactors and compromise to cut costs all with the intention of simulating what it would be like to work in the real world. Work changing hands, compromising, cutting designs that don't fit the budget or needs all for the sake of making a building that the architect and the client could be happy with. You said "Is this a faithful and untainted reproduction of Mies's vision?" And I think that no building is 100% untainted, there's always things cut for costs, or changes made for the client or by the contractors. Calling this building a product of Mies's vision is enough I believe.

  • @cinimatics
    @cinimatics Год назад

    Very clean. I like it.

  • @rolandoacosta6982
    @rolandoacosta6982 2 года назад +1

    Beautiful

  • @the_9ent
    @the_9ent 2 года назад

    I love that a Mies building was constructed in the modern age with new construction methods.