How Bad Is Mercedes Reliability?

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
  • Is it the end of Mercedes reliability? Are Mercedes Benz reliable anymore or have some of the changes over the last 10 years changed how long you can expect these luxury cars to last? Surprise, surprise, it looks as though reliability with Benz has fallen a bit, but the changes aren't for the reasons you'd expect. It's everything from profits to environmentalism that will affect Mercedes reliability, but there are also issues like competition, technology, and more.
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Комментарии • 702

  • @michaeldymock2496
    @michaeldymock2496 6 месяцев назад +16

    How about this for a NEW!!!! car.
    In the 1st year of owning the COMAND system failed. Hence no mobile, no radio, no maps not safety controls basically a black screen AND A VERY UNSAFE CAR. After 4 weeks in service it was replaced. 18 months later same issue - replaced again. Exactly 2 years and 1 month later COMAND fault again. Here's the kicker though, the replacement COMAND only has 2 year warranty and guess what Mercedes said.
    YEP. RIGHT. Out of warranty. Bear in mind this E300e we have owned since new IN 2020 and always serviced by Mercedes has only 46,700Km on the clock and now everything is billable.
    Guess how much it costs to replace the COMAND module ....198,000Baht equivalent to about $7,000 US
    Will I buy another Mercedes...NEVER. Let me repeat that NEVER!!!!!!!!!!
    So our next car is a BMW 530M Sport that comes complete with 5 years unconditional warranty and 5 years complimentary service.
    OH YES... foregot something. Mercedes do not provide the first service as complimentary...they bill you for EVERYTHING!!!!
    Don't get me wrong the Mercedes looked beautiful, was lovely to drive but we paid an arm and a leg for it. But its Mercedes. They do not stand behind their product. Everything is your fault and they try to bleed you every way they can.
    Mercedes product warranty. FACT or FICTION? You choose!!!

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  6 месяцев назад

      Wow that is extremely disappointing and I can actually relate although not to this extent. So sorry to hear about the troubles so I am pinning your comment for others to learn about this issue.

    • @pokerNGold
      @pokerNGold 5 месяцев назад +1

      Your car was unsafe to drive because the screen stopped working?

    • @stephkent2736
      @stephkent2736 2 месяца назад

      @@pokerNGold On many cars the screen controls the heat, AC, fan,and other similar functions. If you have no screen and cant turn on the AC when its 35C/-20C I'd call it dangerous. I'm also curious how many digital dashboards and infotainment systems share the same sort of control module and if one goes its likely the other will as well.

    • @commantrosexetlos4700
      @commantrosexetlos4700 Месяц назад

      @@michaeldymock2496 i bet its just a fuse..all this is happening cause people that dont know nothing about cars but have the money to buy them..on my rx8 mazda wanted 3800 euro for the broken electric steering..it was the fuses connectors..fix it with 40euro..never take your cars to dealership..its wires not uranium..its the same like Ipad nothing more or less..its not a special nasa screen.. picture search the part number..first move always for anything..dont be weak..and if you are very rich the pay it and done..even a rat can make you 10k wiring damage..but its only wires in the end of the day..i know people that can open that screen rebuild it in a day even hours..dont be hypnotized by the merc s class marketing..its wiees and parts that all companies use..no one its making only for mercedes parts

  • @TwoHawksHunting
    @TwoHawksHunting Год назад +272

    I'm old enough, to remember when Mercedes Benz meant expensive, luxury, quality, reliable, solid vehicles made in Germany.

    • @TheDigitaldoug
      @TheDigitaldoug Год назад +4

      Yet

    • @RcH382
      @RcH382 Год назад +5

      still does just not expensive. nothing after 1999. You have to look for gems.

    • @mik7652
      @mik7652 Год назад +14

      Most luxury car manufacturers are selling the name now

    • @drunvert
      @drunvert Год назад +2

      Because they weren't worried about emissions controls and technology

    • @rahimi4762
      @rahimi4762 Год назад +7

      @@mik7652 it still gives u luxury, ride , newest tech and performance but not built like they used to, not a prestigious either. It used to mean something to belong to the Mercedes club. Not too much anymore. They used to have high resale value as they would last forever and built like bank vaults. Wow what a shame 😢

  • @ravbarring
    @ravbarring Год назад +167

    My Mercedes GLE 350 lasted less than a month. The rain water got in through the trunk seal. Drowned the computers in the floor. Insurance company totaled it. My Mercedes Benz combined with the terrible dealership experience scared me from the brand for ever.

    • @marcelforrel
      @marcelforrel Год назад +7

      Wow. That’s messed up

    • @Zaysav
      @Zaysav Год назад +17

      I’ve only had good experiences with Mercedes. But I’ve only bought used and much older models. Maybe the new cars are very bad.

    • @rebeltvr6046
      @rebeltvr6046 Год назад +9

      Don't put down Mercedes just because you had a lemon. Remember, Mercedes invented the modern automobile. Show some respect.

    • @booblam6919
      @booblam6919 Год назад +4

      Don't put them down because of that
      ...Benz rule them all.

    • @jgadiaz
      @jgadiaz Год назад +44

      @@rebeltvr6046 why should he show respect after having a terrible experience with an overpriced car? Apparently being honest and having opinions is a disrespect nowadays

  • @azmike3572
    @azmike3572 Год назад +33

    Their drivetrain is good; it's the electronics that give problems. But you're right about rust--Rust Never Sleeps (Neil Young, 1979).

  • @billynomates920
    @billynomates920 Год назад +34

    we know why we buy it. that mercedes is beautiful. it's just how much we cry when no one's looking. 😂

    • @vincecarlo
      @vincecarlo Год назад +10

      Esp Endless times after paying the Hefty bill when leaving the Merc Workshop

    • @clutchinc.7070
      @clutchinc.7070 Год назад

      @@vincecarlo yikers... how much? is it worth it?

    • @S.C1970
      @S.C1970 7 месяцев назад +1

      I see a Mercedes and just think “oof that guy is in trouble”

    • @Sammie551
      @Sammie551 6 месяцев назад

      Audi is better

  • @ghanamafia7199
    @ghanamafia7199 Год назад +15

    Honestly speaking, the Mercedes Benz manufactured and sold in North America are not the same build quality as Europe...The European standards are much higher.....An American Benz is not a real Benz. They have a manufacturing plant in Vance, Alabama and I wouldn't considered an Alabama Benz to be a real Benz....A real Benz comes from Germany. If your Benz is not coming Germany then it's not a real true benz. A true German Benz will last..... Unfortunately, most of the Benz cars sold in Canada, America, and Latin America are not being built in Germany so the quality will fall and the standards will drop.

  • @workout1520
    @workout1520 Год назад +93

    We leased four different C300 4Matics over four different refreshes. Our last MB was given back, five thousand miles under the 30,000 mile limit. During our last MB oil change, the dealer found the rear and front differentials were both leaking and needed repair. During this repair, the main computer failed. This car had 25,000 miles on it. The car always drove beautifully, but it was falling apart at 25,000 miles. It was our last MB.

  • @francis2811
    @francis2811 Год назад +23

    Overpriced to buy, reassuringly expensive to maintain! Those who aren't too bothered with image buy Lexus etc.

    • @rahimi4762
      @rahimi4762 Год назад

      They like the performance and luxury the Toyota can’t provide. Bland

    • @clutchinc.7070
      @clutchinc.7070 Год назад

      so don't get one?

    • @8MunchenBayern8
      @8MunchenBayern8 Год назад

      There are a couple generations that are extremely reliable like the w204 and w212. Rather have one of those than a boring Lexus that puts you to sleep when driving. No driving dynamics

    • @GuentherVanRaven
      @GuentherVanRaven Месяц назад

      @@rahimi4762Ehm, lexus is the definition of quality & luxury. Mercedes now has lots of plastics and the ambient light itself are not enough to catch me.

    • @rahimi4762
      @rahimi4762 26 дней назад

      @@GuentherVanRaven Lexus is also boring, lack tech and lots of bits of Toyota mixed in. Actually I’m good on both brands.

  • @vincecarlo
    @vincecarlo Год назад +16

    Won't Put my Bet on Merc
    Rather Drive an Accord. Bullet Proof

    • @ralphbrown1053
      @ralphbrown1053 Год назад

      I would not recommend relying on those now. It’s not just the cvt transmission that has a reputation, the engines are going bad around 100k, no doubt from the turbo chargers that they are putting in these cars

    • @nikkiknows1545
      @nikkiknows1545 Год назад +2

      Their customers are only excited about the technology inside the interior and an illuminated star on the front smh

    • @rahimi4762
      @rahimi4762 Год назад +1

      Wrong competition. Get an Acura 😂

    • @rahimi4762
      @rahimi4762 Год назад +3

      @@nikkiknows1545 and the prestige. They still live for old Mercedes which doesn’t exist anymore. The exclusive Mercedes club is gone now too since the used cars are cheap. They used to have very high resale value mid 90s and before. Ppl would pass these down in their families

    • @ralphbrown1053
      @ralphbrown1053 Год назад

      @@rahimi4762 I wouldn’t touch one. I’m happy for any owner who has one and is happy with it but they don’t suit me at all. Toyota and Honda are kids toys, Acura and Lexus are the same, maybe if it had a standard transmission but my interest runs out. There’s just nothing there that appeals to me or worth my money. Better for someone else

  • @Indecisive7337
    @Indecisive7337 Год назад +21

    My last vehicle was a Dacia Duster Diesel, it was all I could afford honest!
    From new I did 57000 and it ran perfectly!

    • @crxracer805
      @crxracer805 Год назад

      A what? Never heard of it.

    • @Indecisive7337
      @Indecisive7337 Год назад

      A Dacia Duster, part of the Renault group, built in Romania, sold world wide...I thought it was anyway.

    • @madhunter6420
      @madhunter6420 Год назад +1

      ​@@crxracer805 typical american xD

    • @crxracer805
      @crxracer805 Год назад

      @@madhunter6420 hahah

    • @thindo
      @thindo Год назад +1

      Same here have had the Dacia Logan Mcv from 2016 bought with 7000 miles on it and have done 90000 miles only had to change a wheel bearing good on fuel and Road tax free in the UK for the 1.5dci diesel engine can't complain

  • @richarddespres8011
    @richarddespres8011 Год назад +18

    I had a W220 S-Class, and I loved it as a driving experience when it worked. The quality of the interior was disappointing with all of the cheap plastic and the finish peeling off of the buttons. There was this quirky drain valve in the air box that would block with the slightest amount of road dust and as water drained in the rain it would fill up until it overflowed through the fan ducting straight into passenger foot well. Good thing there isn't an important onboard computer to keep the car running there...oops. then the plastic plugs in the trunk that fill the taps where the robot would grab on in the factory fell out and my trunk filled with water. Good thing the stereo and battery weren't back there....oops again. I kept it for five years, though, all the way up until its cancer went terminal across multiple panels. Sometimes, I look back with rose coloured glasses at the times it drove well and miss it, but then times like these remind me of how bad the car really was.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  Год назад

      Exactly

    • @rahimi4762
      @rahimi4762 Год назад +2

      This was the worst S class. This is when the accountants came in. The S Class before was the best one ever built. It lost money it was so good. Blame Lexus 😂

    • @clutchinc.7070
      @clutchinc.7070 Год назад

      so... the a220 is not a good buy?

    • @richarddespres8011
      @richarddespres8011 Год назад

      @Clutch Inc. I'm not as familiar as Mark with the ins and outs of this model but I would probably say no, not really. It'll be full of cheap pleather and it won't last the test of time in my opinion. They look great when new but just don't have that robust quality that Merc used to be known for.

    • @clutchinc.7070
      @clutchinc.7070 Год назад

      @@richarddespres8011 dang... even if i take good care of it? i was thinking of a benz, or a kia k5, or something else for my second car.

  • @mserica6487
    @mserica6487 Год назад +21

    Another consideration that affects the quality of the exterior is the crumple zone for safety. They can't use the heavy metals now like they used to. Also, even car seats are designed to be biodegradable.

  • @ClockworksOfGL
    @ClockworksOfGL Год назад +14

    IIRC, it was the change to “‘environmentally friendly” paints that caused them to rust so quickly. At least that was their excuse. Most of the other luxury manufacturers didn’t have that problem.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  Год назад

      Yikes

    • @fasilvoilesu1464
      @fasilvoilesu1464 Год назад

      Sir I respect Your Knowledge , and please !, I have a Question ?,... What is. Your Honest Opinion about the w140 , S500 , 1995 ,..!??? Thank You ( in terms of quality and reliability !?..)

    • @ClockworksOfGL
      @ClockworksOfGL Год назад

      @@fasilvoilesu1464 - The W140 is considered one of the best Mercedes cars ever built. Maybe one of the best cars ever built by anyone (although I’d argue that honor goes to the Lexus LS400). Same for that generation of E-Class, the W124.

    • @rahimi4762
      @rahimi4762 Год назад

      @@ClockworksOfGL no that S Class Lexus took apart is the best car ever built. Lexus copied it to a certain price. mB didn’t built it to no price point back then

    • @rahimi4762
      @rahimi4762 Год назад

      @@ClockworksOfGL the MB 190E Diesel is also one of the best cars ever made and better than any Lexus in reliability prestige and gas mileage

  • @derekdew24
    @derekdew24 Год назад +4

    My 2018 GLC 300 has now reached 75k miles and is flawless, just brake pads and oil change. It's my everyday car and I drive in heavy urban stop and go traffic. I have had more issues on other cars I have owned.

    • @goga.games18
      @goga.games18 Год назад +2

      So?
      Its 2018 car it should be like that

  • @derekdew24
    @derekdew24 Год назад +10

    I saw a 2016 C300 with 200k miles for sale recently. It still ran good and looked good.

    • @felanylove1895
      @felanylove1895 Год назад

      For how much and where bro?

    • @derekdew24
      @derekdew24 Год назад

      @@felanylove1895 $9900k, cannot remember location. Somewhere in the US on fb marketplace.

  • @sunilsidhwani4757
    @sunilsidhwani4757 Год назад +10

    I've had far worse luck with the 1 BMW we've owned so far compared to my 2019 E300 as well as my wife's 2020 GLE350.

  • @edwardbaker1331
    @edwardbaker1331 Год назад +6

    I'm glad I'm handy with my own repairs. My '05 Ford Escape with a V6 has 200K and all simple repairs I handled myself. I recently inspected the valve train with a V cover removal and not a shred of varnish thanks to my precise oil changes with synthetic. I'm only getting a new car because with aging I need the safety features. I hope I'm doing the right thing.

    • @ethanberdejacortez4845
      @ethanberdejacortez4845 2 месяца назад

      Dont get a new car sir, your truck is prlly built like a tank, if your makkng a car payment your dumb, hence im dumb, i got a c300 4 matic 2011, i love it but totally unnecessary, 124k miles and now warnjng lights or engine noise, Benz baby

  • @Vincent-ke5zn
    @Vincent-ke5zn Год назад +7

    Safety features are useless when they break down and the driver won't know about it until the driver is in the trunk of another car, when I was growing up I was taught to keep my eyes open and on the road, that was the old school Safety feature. Safety features are a way to make the driver lazy and not pay attention to his or her driving

  • @Snaphotsthroughtime
    @Snaphotsthroughtime 7 месяцев назад +1

    My 2019 gle 400.. the engine just died. Not even 5 years old yet. Got extended warranty, it expired a few months ago. I was hoping to keep that car for many years.

  • @AvengerAngel
    @AvengerAngel Год назад +3

    The race for technology because of MB competitors, like VW brands and BMW rushed MB to compromise reliability. Add the EPA and it is just another casualty of the new generation of evolving technology. A 1986 190E is but a memory.

  • @GixxerRider1991
    @GixxerRider1991 Год назад +16

    It's the same with other manufacturers. If you make a car too reliable you sell fewer cars. Case in point: General Motors. You still see W-body Chevies, Buicks, Pontiacs, etc. from the early 2000s on the road, some of which are over 20 years old, yet the generation of vehicles that came after them are largely sitting on used car lots or rotting in junkyards. That tells you everything you need to know. Building a car that is simple, rugged, reliable, and easy for everyday people to service is the last thing any of these companies want to do.

    • @kenjkbs
      @kenjkbs Год назад +2

      Lexus?????

    • @ortiztheinfamous2771
      @ortiztheinfamous2771 Год назад

      @@kenjkbs Lexus vehicle's are beautiful in and out. Have sporty options, have other types of styles to pick from.

  • @wes4375
    @wes4375 Год назад +54

    A lot of these points can be said about all modern luxury cars, not just Mercedes. They’re all using turbos, tons of technology, they all have way more failure points, and they’re all loaded with plastics. I’d just go with the MB if I had to pick from the lot 😎. Great video!

    • @xxnicksfresh401xx
      @xxnicksfresh401xx Год назад +4

      Good cars with warranty but resale value.. and idk if worth holding out of warranty

    • @ralphbrown1053
      @ralphbrown1053 Год назад +2

      A lot of cars, electronic gear changer’s, push button, Chryslers dial transmission selector, electric emergency brakes, ridiculous! I like the idea of push button start because I don’t own one and never have so it’s new and different to me but when the electric system goes on the brink as it has been known, that’s one more problem that puts the car out of commission

    • @ralphbrown1053
      @ralphbrown1053 Год назад +3

      @@xxnicksfresh401xx problem is you pay the car off with the bank and your warranty expires then you trade it in and you are in debt all over again. I guess you got to pick your poison

    • @andrewmosqueira1940
      @andrewmosqueira1940 Год назад +2

      Yes that is true same with bmw they get such a bad rep but most of the modern cars use a lot of plastic and have the same high tech features. Might as well just pick the car we like.

    • @xxnicksfresh401xx
      @xxnicksfresh401xx Год назад +3

      @@ralphbrown1053 pretty much or just buy cheap junkers but what fun is that right

  • @vincecarlo
    @vincecarlo Год назад +21

    Honda Engines hitting 1M miles is Also Common
    Bullet Proof

    • @zhila5958
      @zhila5958 Год назад +4

      Honda engines hitting that milestone isn’t even a surprise. they make one of the best engines (maybe excluding the 1.5T that they recently started using).

    • @monson2121
      @monson2121 Год назад

      Who really give a $uck

    • @vincecarlo
      @vincecarlo Год назад +1

      @@monson2121
      Opps... ur Comment DISSAPPEARED 🤣🤣

  • @donnelson9283
    @donnelson9283 Год назад +13

    Yup, From My Past Experiences With These Cars, Your Analogies Are Absolutely OnPoint ! In Fact, I Often Use The Term, Two Arms & Two Legs. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @greymark420
    @greymark420 Год назад +27

    The irony is that competition is supposed to improve a product for the consumer, when in fact it does the opposite. I would say that rust is less of an issue than before. I remember when I first started driving, you only had to look at a car and you could see the rust developing.😁 Lastly we are a throw away society, many people do not keep their car for long, once the warranty expires they are onto the next vehicle.

    • @BRAINFxck10
      @BRAINFxck10 Год назад +1

      You can't talk in absolutes like that, competition did give us some really good drivers cars, certain brands did become more reliable while other brands didn't and not everyone buys new cars, many people try and make their older cars last or buy used.

    • @michaelkennedy4444
      @michaelkennedy4444 Год назад

      They’re competitively making shit .

    • @encinobalboa
      @encinobalboa Год назад

      In Southern California, I see many beautiful rust free Mercedes at the junkyard. I see a lot of special and expensive models and wonder why.

    • @fffwe3876
      @fffwe3876 Год назад +1

      European car manufactures bet on brand loyalty and flashy marketing.
      they dont see themselves as car manufacture, they think they are luxury brand like LVMH.
      thats why BMW and VW are collecting brand names.

    • @dergunter1237
      @dergunter1237 7 месяцев назад

      it improves the product for the consumer, him saying "other companies made good products for a better price so mercedes cheaped out cause they needed their board of members getting massive payouts" doesnt mean competition will make products worse. It just shows who produces trash and you stop being company loyal and go to the company that makes a good product

  • @mikegabler5124
    @mikegabler5124 Год назад +7

    Keep in mind that a lot of these added plastics and turbos are a result of the government's regulations for higher fuel economy. smaller 4-cylinder engines with turbos for better fuel efficiency numbers. You can't hit the governments numbers without making changes, and remember, the government does not care if you like these changes or NOT!

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  Год назад

      Thanka

  • @Babylovebug
    @Babylovebug Год назад +9

    I had to get a module replaced in my vw like 4 months after I bought it 😂 and then the cylinder head at 6 months 😂

  • @garys7410
    @garys7410 Год назад +4

    drove my 15 c63S for almost 9 years put 148000kms been bullet proof

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  Год назад +1

      Great cars

    • @4JaayTv
      @4JaayTv Год назад

      63s have different more expensive internals that are better quality than more mass-produced mercedes.

    • @issavibez394
      @issavibez394 5 дней назад

      ​@@4JaayTvold Is better

  • @jamesbaine580
    @jamesbaine580 Год назад +5

    Knowing how well made hondas Toyota's Lexus and acura are You must have bought a Mercedes so you'd have something to talk about

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  Год назад +3

      Haha, there is definitely something to talk about

  • @henrytang2203
    @henrytang2203 Год назад +6

    I definitely think weight was an issue. If you made a modern mercedes was made with less plastics and more metal, they'd be even heavier. And this would kill fuel economy. Mercedes has been forced into a corner with engineering constraints.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  Год назад +2

      You are right, weight savings can be a good thing in the right places indeed

  • @rufaimuhammadaminu6873
    @rufaimuhammadaminu6873 Год назад +5

    That is the newer Benz,but that Older ones last and last and last

  • @Czechbound
    @Czechbound Год назад +3

    The main reason is a focus on shareholder returns for the MB shareholders. Historically, MB were a premium product, either for luxury, or service life. When the bean counters figured out they were over-built, the product was dumbed down, and the execs realised they could sell more, for a lower price, and make more money. Snobbery is a bigger part of consumer behaviour now. The desire not to be seen as "cheap"; to buy to impress; to give yourself a boost. In 10 years, there won't be new ICE cars from MBenz. The best thing for the environment is to pressure your local government to provide effective public transport, and then use a 2nd hand car for pleasure.

  • @mickill2
    @mickill2 Год назад +13

    Brand new 2022 c class broke down in a few months, the engine oil and transmission oil was leaking so badly that the engine almost blew up,no engine light warning,we couldn't believe it 😳

    • @clutchinc.7070
      @clutchinc.7070 Год назад

      what??? i thought if you take good care of them they will last rlly long

    • @ioneb4833
      @ioneb4833 Год назад

      All of them leak oil.

    • @mickill2
      @mickill2 Год назад +1

      @@clutchinc.7070 stay away from new mercedes cars the built quality is trash,my brother is a mechanic and he investigated the leak and the oil sump is made out of plastic which can warp from heat,even the oil dran plug is plastic,there not built to last,mercedes cutting corners to make money.

    • @clutchinc.7070
      @clutchinc.7070 Год назад +4

      @@mickill2 :( even the brand brand new ones? my friends benz lasted 300k miles the whole family. idk why ppl have such mixed reviewss about them :/ they look so nice too. and the interior.

    • @XDMIIIIIIIII
      @XDMIIIIIIIII Год назад

      @@mickill2how new is too new?

  • @axs7689
    @axs7689 Год назад +28

    I have been happy with my 2014 e550 with 90k miles. Mostly serviced at showroom but also rarely an indie Mercedes mech. It's my pride and joy :)

    • @darthdaddy6983
      @darthdaddy6983 Год назад +1

      I’ve got a pride & joy e550 also , but an 08. 4matic . With about your same mileage

    • @hoopty.
      @hoopty. Год назад +3

      90k miles is barely broken in. My 01 Camry has over 400k miles on the same motor and transmission. I feel like it's just getting broken in 😂

    • @darthdaddy6983
      @darthdaddy6983 Год назад

      @@hoopty.
      My 5 cars all together don’t add up to 400k miles .
      A 1980 , 83 , 90 , 94 , 2008.

    • @axs7689
      @axs7689 Год назад +1

      @aundrayperkins1712 yea that's impressive but I think we should all have such a car. We have an 08 camry as well that refuses to die but comparing a 4 cylinder to an 8 cylinder twin turbo is a bit silly no?

    • @rahimi4762
      @rahimi4762 Год назад

      I bet you look good in it driving it

  • @713vinh
    @713vinh Год назад +6

    Mercedes were one of the first to put turbos on an engine so believe me when I tell you this, "they know how to make turbo engines last"

  • @mwalsh7500
    @mwalsh7500 Год назад +2

    My 2010 e class coupe. Bulletproof and will keep only 139,000 miles…. My 2009 SL 550 bulletproof basically only water pump brakes and tires and a rebounder for the suspension twice …. 92,000 milesI will keep these and go into the future and not get a 2020 e coupe 450 as they seem to be shit.

  • @kylep3759
    @kylep3759 Год назад +4

    I don't know man, the 2011 C63 AMG was built 12 years ago and they're still solid and insane. I don't think every modern Benz was built just to last 3 years

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  Год назад +1

      That’s fair

  • @p.chrisr8106
    @p.chrisr8106 Год назад +3

    I had a c280 , great Mercedes, had over 270 thousand miles. Very reliable. I drive a BMW and still missing my Mercedes. My kids keep asking when I going to get another one. They love it more than my new x3

  • @MisterMcKnight
    @MisterMcKnight 5 месяцев назад +2

    got the car bug a few weeks ago so started my research and this channel has single handedly convinced me to NEVER own a benz

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  5 месяцев назад

      That’s fair. Any other makes on your radar?

    • @MisterMcKnight
      @MisterMcKnight 5 месяцев назад

      Yes sir, I've been eyeballing the Porche Macan!@@ECPP

  • @sunnyskiesblue
    @sunnyskiesblue Год назад +4

    Can't put off repairs on those types of vehicles. Before turning into an endless money pit.

  • @chriscoffman8340
    @chriscoffman8340 Год назад +3

    Thats why i drive a BMW 540i with a B58 engine!! #3 in Consumer reports!!

    • @mattiaslp9645
      @mattiaslp9645 Год назад +2

      anything is reliable if you drive it once a month. try driving that bmw everyday and see what repairs you’ll need.

    • @b.f.378
      @b.f.378 Год назад +1

      @@mattiaslp9645 X3 M40i with the B58 engine. Daily driver driving all around. 60K+ miles. No issues yet

    • @clutchinc.7070
      @clutchinc.7070 Год назад

      @@mattiaslp9645 so is getting a benz not good

  • @ty2007
    @ty2007 Год назад +19

    Mercedes was undisputably the best built and most reliable cars up until and including through the 80s. Almost every car was benchmarked against it. It seems as though their quality started to suffer around the same time Lexus came onto the scene. It forced Mercedes to do one of two things, either try and compete with Lexus which would mean cost cutting or move up-market, where they should have gone in my opinion.

    • @rahimi4762
      @rahimi4762 Год назад +3

      Yep blame Lexus and the accountants came in. I wish MB was still ran by engineers and had bank vault like quality

    • @clutchinc.7070
      @clutchinc.7070 Год назад

      is mercedes a220 a good buy

    • @davidperry4013
      @davidperry4013 10 месяцев назад +1

      Back in the 1990s Mercedes are expensive for a reason.

    • @scienceByV
      @scienceByV 9 месяцев назад

      Yes it is!

  • @TahoeKing
    @TahoeKing Год назад +1

    Big companies now design cars to work for 5 years then it's replacement time! They figured out this way keeps profits up and production up = lower production costs too, meanwhile the banks are so happy with this way too as more loans are released every 5 years meaning more profits for banks!

  • @carscloseup
    @carscloseup 6 месяцев назад +2

    Calm down. You have mentioned the rocker panel and loudspeaker several times in multiple videos. That doesn’t generally set the quality of a Mercedes. I’ll give you that the use of plastic is horrible in today’s Mercedes. I’ve owned W124, W211, W212, several Sprinters and now I have a W205 from 2019. Mercedes might not be the most reliable, but the style, comfort and safety are the best out there. F**k Toyota, Lexus and Honda….

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  6 месяцев назад

      The quality is not there but I will check the box on style and tech over most of its competitors and that’s largely why we went here over a BMW 3 or 4 series on this round.

  • @loakland2773
    @loakland2773 Год назад +2

    How about the new ‘23 GLC suv Mark. Any good for purchase if I change out oil and service more often as you’ve described in previous. basically doubling up services with the one recommended service. Thoughts ?? Thanks for what you do.

  • @vultureguy33
    @vultureguy33 11 месяцев назад +1

    Your reasoning for owning this is the same reason I own a new car. But I own an antique car too. My old car might give me more problems but I also get the sense I'll still be driving it when my new car is bricked. Simply because the newer car is likely to give me problems related to fragile build quality and computer gremlins, whereas the old car is more likely to give me problems I can solve with a screwdriver and a can of WD40.

  • @munch92
    @munch92 Год назад +3

    5:12 "They are not built like a Sherman tank"... yeah of course. Because German never built a Sherman tank.

  • @doctorstrangelove9487
    @doctorstrangelove9487 7 месяцев назад

    I have one from 2008, six cylinders, engine and transmission no issues but just about anything else has been replaced since. Living in Northeast where the climate is hard on a car and rust unavoidable despite best efforts. Also the rear frame will rust but luckily MB now has it as a factory recall and will change it for free.

  • @trustyoungpierre9959
    @trustyoungpierre9959 Год назад +12

    The X164 is a beast. Very reliable. Once maintained it lasts a long time. She’s almost at 200k miles 💙

  • @Drbettencourt116
    @Drbettencourt116 9 месяцев назад +2

    German car have been bad for the last 20 years and are getting worse every year. We stopped buying years ago

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  9 месяцев назад

      indeed

  • @RT-mm8rq
    @RT-mm8rq Год назад +4

    Plastic, plastic, plastic everywhere.
    Doesn't matter how you manufacturer it, it's susceptible to degrading over time from constant heat and stress. It amazes me they continue to make key engine components from it when in the past they were metal.
    Every manufacturer now just wants thier products to last to the warrenty.
    Notice now that manufacturers never talk about the quality long term quality.
    Remember when
    " Quality was job one. "
    " Like a rock. "

    • @ariesmight6978
      @ariesmight6978 Год назад

      Today " Bad, Low and Poor quality is job one."

  • @phil4208
    @phil4208 Год назад +4

    If I had a spare 10k I'd buy a 79 300d in a heart beat there are thousands of those babies still driving around, I prefer substance over style, lately I've been looking at the 6cly late model Toyota sienna , the 4cly hybrid has great mpg but no power

    • @rahimi4762
      @rahimi4762 Год назад

      U can get substance and style by buying a Volvo, Acura . Gone are the days when Mercedes was both

  • @PKMNFan4664
    @PKMNFan4664 Год назад +3

    A lesson I've learned from this video: the Germans didn't well-mix together overengineering and cost-cutting.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  Год назад +1

      Pretty much!

    • @PKMNFan4664
      @PKMNFan4664 Год назад +1

      @@ECPP I'm glad you confirmed this, because... It seems like my take/interpretation is not a common one you see when talking about the quality, reliability, and durability of modern German cars.

  • @avalanche9142
    @avalanche9142 3 месяца назад

    The points you are mentioning from 7:50 min onwards is not only related to Mercedes. Any additional subsystem and feature that is added to any modern car can be a point of failure, regardless of the brand.

  • @arfaouiaymen7142
    @arfaouiaymen7142 6 месяцев назад +1

    I have this same Mercedes. I am fully happy with it. Dont forget that cars todays are cheaper than before(with inflation)

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks

  • @johng3292
    @johng3292 25 дней назад +1

    That's one of the reasons you should never buy the first version of a new car, wait for the facelift version so they fix all the problems the first version has.. its like buying the first iPad.. It was bad, iPad 2 was the version that the original iPad should have been when it came out.

  • @davidsebastianhartono
    @davidsebastianhartono Год назад +8

    I think the w212 is an exception though. I have a w212 from 2011, had to go off-road and hit the bumper twice. Nothing came loose everything was fine.

  • @jduwayne1
    @jduwayne1 Год назад +11

    I had a W116 Mercedes 280S and it was built like a Sherman Tank with relatively NO mechanical issues! But as Mercedes Benz change the production in later generations (W201 and later) it cut corners with parts, metals, and additional materials makes them less reliable to last for over 100000 miles…

    • @booblam6919
      @booblam6919 Год назад +2

      Benz rule them all

    • @KingofInterns
      @KingofInterns Год назад +3

      Peak was 2004-2010 for cars. Since then too much unnecessary tech.

    • @jduwayne1
      @jduwayne1 Год назад +1

      @@KingofInterns You mentioned years were two (2) different generations was made: W220 & W221… Which model are you talking about?

    • @KingofInterns
      @KingofInterns Год назад +1

      @Jerry Weaver s class was too complicated back then already. Also W220 like w203 had rust issues pre face lift in the early naughties. 2004 onwards this issue was fixed
      Most reliable mercedes would be for me any of the face-lift w203, a208, r171 cars. AMG versions of those also had the most reliable v8 of all time in the NA m113. Best balance of good build quality, enough tech but not too much and bullet proof drive train

    • @jduwayne1
      @jduwayne1 Год назад +1

      @@KingofInterns Thank you for the clarification…I agree with you on the rust problems…The W220 was the last time the gear shift was on the floor & then Mercedes moved it to the steering column (big mistake)…Overall the W220 had many other problems as well…IMO the W221 is the last appealing built Mercedes…

  • @Jim.Thunda
    @Jim.Thunda 6 месяцев назад +2

    You are spot on.
    In everything you said.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  6 месяцев назад

      Thank you

  • @anon8613
    @anon8613 Год назад +9

    Maybe don't buy the cheaper class, and when comparing compare each class with its own class only. My 05 E55 was very solid, heavy nice doors solid all around. Now my 2018 E63s has been great!

  • @ronnymieglich5791
    @ronnymieglich5791 Год назад +3

    That's what happens when the old generation of Germany 🇩🇪 engineers retire. Because the world schooling going to crap the car's are going to crap.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  Год назад

      Indeed

  • @Indecisive7337
    @Indecisive7337 Год назад +7

    That can't be right Mark...it's BMW's that are unreliable surely 🤭

    • @ariesmight6978
      @ariesmight6978 Год назад +5

      Mercedes is trying their best to beat BMW. In which automotive co can produce the. Absolutely worst vehicle ever.

    • @nelzelpher7158
      @nelzelpher7158 Год назад +3

      @@ariesmight6978 I love hearing people trash mercs.

    • @ariesmight6978
      @ariesmight6978 Год назад

      @Nel Zelpher To tell you the truth Nel Zlpher. If Mercedes executives said. Let's provide everyone in the world. With our highest quality vehicles. And our vehicles at a fair market price. Honda, Mercedes, As well as Toyota. Would all be battling for the #1 spot of highest quality vehicle. But as Mark has already. Mentioned in his video. Mercedes has already accomplished winning that position. The executives just chose to give it up. And give it up by a mind puzzling very far.

    • @mickill2
      @mickill2 Год назад +5

      Bmw place 3rd in the most reliable cars of 2022 mercedes placed last.

    • @ariesmight6978
      @ariesmight6978 Год назад +1

      @mickill2 With Honda placing 4Th¿¿ The size of the bribe that BMW awarded. The owners of consumer reports. Was nothing less then ASTRONOMICAL!! Which explains the high volume of plastic parts. Throughout their cars.

  • @booblam6919
    @booblam6919 Год назад +3

    When Benz was on top...no carmaker could compare to it....a guote from a car enthusiast.

  • @lizjones9840
    @lizjones9840 Год назад +6

    I’d been happy with my used E350 until the last year. Mechanical , structural Issues and sneaky suspicion there is electrical issue I’ve been watching you for a long time, I can’t decide if I should buy another used Mercedes’ or go with bmw . Tough choice

    • @rahimi4762
      @rahimi4762 Год назад +1

      Buy a Porsche. The most reliable German vehicle

    • @clutchinc.7070
      @clutchinc.7070 Год назад

      @@rahimi4762 wya more expesnvie

    • @clutchinc.7070
      @clutchinc.7070 Год назад

      these comments are making me not wanna

    • @davidperry4013
      @davidperry4013 10 месяцев назад

      Consider switching to Tesla.

  • @jackryder6732
    @jackryder6732 7 месяцев назад +1

    Back in the days, marriages lasted, hardly any stories about adultery. Now it's the opposite. Women dont last long in marriages, and men dont take responsibility and commitment.
    Cars, same issues. After three years of driving, get ready for issues.

  • @vintagetriplex3728
    @vintagetriplex3728 Год назад +2

    The Mercedes C class is a cheap entry level car. If you go for the E class you'll have a much better experience.

  • @sutanharahap3574
    @sutanharahap3574 Год назад +2

    I have 2012 mercedes E350 no problem at all till now

  • @commonsense5741
    @commonsense5741 9 месяцев назад +1

    The solution for these problems is too lease, not buy, high end cars.

  • @j.AliBeats
    @j.AliBeats Год назад +1

    Is the 2017-18 e class reliable? I’m looking at the e300

  • @robertrydlewski9538
    @robertrydlewski9538 3 месяца назад

    What about the Mercedes C400 with a v6 petrol engine ( M-276) apparently a bulletproof engine if maintained correctly. Any news on this engine?

  • @simonh870
    @simonh870 4 месяца назад +1

    My dad had a 2007 CLS500. That was a very troublesome car even at just 4 years old.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  4 месяца назад

      Yikes. Thanks for sharing

  • @pungolay6586
    @pungolay6586 Год назад +1

    I own a 2020 Mercedes Benz S560 4Matic and I haven't had any issues with it. I follow the routine maintenance schedule, I have three full inspection point papers that indicate it is in perfect health. My friend owns a 2012 Mercedes Benz S550 4Matic and he only had to replace the alternator. Mind you he has close to 120,000 miles. I have close to 40,000 and bought it after a lease. Yes, I am aware of the reliability, talked to S Class and AMG owners, and scoured through consumer reviews from different sites. I didn't have any malfunction or electrical issues, but I do know a certified MB mechanic that I trust.

    • @clutchinc.7070
      @clutchinc.7070 Год назад

      hey i was thinking of getting a benz a220. can you tell me your experience? ppl in the comments with persona experiences scare me.

    • @highlymedicated2438
      @highlymedicated2438 Год назад +1

      ​@@clutchinc.7070I bought a 22 a 220 and I put 30,000 miles on it so far nothing has failed me yet. This was my first Mercedes now I can comfortably say they are just as good as any other car I would definitely get one

    • @clutchinc.7070
      @clutchinc.7070 Год назад

      @@highlymedicated2438 30000 is relativley new tho. i hear they have issues after 50k usually. im glad you ike it so far!

  • @erickouniakis5722
    @erickouniakis5722 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for the heads-up on both Mercedes and BMW.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks

  • @vintagehaynesflute
    @vintagehaynesflute Год назад +2

    I know you have a C 300 with the M274 engine (I have a 2019 E 300). Are you concerned about that cracking piston issue? Im kind of worried

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  Год назад +1

      Hi, I am not worried because the percentage is still fairly low and stick with premium fuel and up the odds.

    • @GPNowak
      @GPNowak 9 месяцев назад

      I wasn't worried until last week. Premium fuel since day one. All services were done at MB. Now I have a car running on 3 cylinders with a cracked piston in cylinder #1. MB quoted $21K to fix it. That’s more than the car is worth at the moment. The bottom line is the engines in modern cars should not have catastrophic engine failure at 60K
      MB is dishonest and turning a blind eye to a lot of M274 engine owners. The percentage is not that minimal anymore as there’s a class action lawsuit in California and there’s an open investigation by NHTSA into this matter as well.
      I completely lost confidence in the brand after learning that Mercedes Benz is withholding crucial information from its customers regarding the premature engine failure on the M274 engines.
      The incorrectly sized or otherwise unsuitable wrist pin causing mechanical engine damage should have been disclosed to all owners so they could make an informed decision regarding their future with this particular engine in multiple MB cars.

    • @vintagehaynesflute
      @vintagehaynesflute 9 месяцев назад

      @@GPNowak what year and model is your car?

  • @DjTemptation
    @DjTemptation Год назад +1

    hi , should i buy a 2020 44k miles Merecedes glc 300 ? without warranty because im buying from infiniti dealer

    • @ranerhodes6712
      @ranerhodes6712 Год назад +1

      YES go for it ! I bought a 2018 glc and it’s been very reliable

  • @jamesmustin7289
    @jamesmustin7289 Год назад +1

    It is pure greed. The cars from the 1960’s to 1980’s Benz were built to last. When you can’t get 5 years out of a new one you know you have a piece of shit. Germans were proud to build long lasting cars. Mercedes having been living on the echo of the early cars. Today lease
    This car if in business take a right off. Stay away from these cars .

    • @clutchinc.7070
      @clutchinc.7070 Год назад

      dang. i was planning to get it for my first car. i thought they could last up to 100k

  • @americaisacontinent.
    @americaisacontinent. 8 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for the video bro. Where did you get your seat covers?

  • @easymoneysniper9013
    @easymoneysniper9013 9 месяцев назад +1

    I just bought a GL550 and I love it!!

  • @LCculater
    @LCculater Год назад +1

    Sooooo my question is , why do people buy these vehicles that are built cheap but look good and a status issue ?

  • @Foo3thoo
    @Foo3thoo 8 месяцев назад

    So 10 or 12 years isn’t long enough for a power plant be it gasoline or diesel to last without needing some major service or replacement? How long should the engine last 20 years 25 years? @13:25

  • @marwanmustfa
    @marwanmustfa 8 месяцев назад

    My grandparents had a Mercedes from the 80s I love how this car was so much, I always wanted to buy one just bought my first merc c350 2012 amazing car

  • @johnr.french6499
    @johnr.french6499 Год назад +4

    The w212 s are still pretty good mines 11 years old and looks like new..

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  Год назад

      Thanks

  • @mfmf100
    @mfmf100 Год назад +1

    What about Lexus ES or IS?

  • @proudam3969
    @proudam3969 Год назад +3

    I really like your Mercedes-Benz C-Class Coupe......the interior and exterior looks amazing. Love the blue exterior.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  Год назад +2

      Thank you very much! We love the Color’s too.

  • @bencarey243
    @bencarey243 7 месяцев назад

    My mom has a 2007 clk 550 it impresses me how good it runs still. It's got solid speed too 450 hp.

  • @raminelham
    @raminelham Год назад +1

    What do you suggest, if you want to buy a Mwrcedes that is reliable and not as old as w124 ??
    What do you think about w204 ???

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  Год назад +1

      204 is great and generally a well maintained unit can run solidly for a long time. AmG wins the race but just watch for poor service history, rust potential and accident history. Other than that, good to go

    • @onechakarov
      @onechakarov 3 месяца назад

      What you are looking for is W203, W211, W212 and if you want to go fancy for cheap W221.Skip on the W204 since it's a ugly car inside and outside with a lot more maintenance requirements. Also try to skip on V shaped engines and go for inline 4 or 6 and you are good to go. Also keep in mind you can pretty much modify your Benz with many cameras and all kind of stuff, its up to your imagination. But that's a thing a dedicated Benz owner would do to a car he wants to run forever. My advice would be to never drive your Benz like a sport car or kick it down often, if you drive normally, your Benz will last long time with no issues. Do maintenance 20-30% earlier from the normal mileage interval for all important components, like: Engine oil, filters, transmission oil, diff oil etc., and you will be happy Benz owner.

  • @jimmybattiston4192
    @jimmybattiston4192 8 месяцев назад +1

    My 2003 clk55 amg is still old school tough as nails.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  8 месяцев назад

      Tanks

  • @ro5omax
    @ro5omax 6 месяцев назад

    Great video, as always!
    What ste your thoughts on '21 and later c43 AMG? It seems like a worthy competitor to BMW M340i.

  • @SSV-i-c-e
    @SSV-i-c-e Год назад +1

    have worked on and owned early Mercedes such as the slc beautifuly build rust not so good but for their ages lovely

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  Год назад

      Totally agree

  • @thomasbayer2832
    @thomasbayer2832 4 месяца назад +1

    All of Germany has gone down the crapper, including products made in Germany like Mercedes, Audi, BMW, VW
    Totally overpriced for low-quality vehicles.

  • @EM-cz4rd
    @EM-cz4rd 11 месяцев назад +1

    Have a 2020 S560. All of these same features. No issues. "point of possible failure"... Dude, EVERY SINGLE damned modern car has all the same potential failure points.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  11 месяцев назад

      Well

  • @pm7805
    @pm7805 Год назад +2

    That’s why we tend to buy Japanese brands who refuse to b be affected by the environmentalists.

  • @antomano5623
    @antomano5623 10 месяцев назад

    Yeah you aren't kidding, while vacation in Wrightwood, CA this week, I had heard some bolt like noise coming from the rear tire. When I was checking it, I didn't find anything wrong. As a precautionary thing, I took it to Wrightwood Auto Services, they too couldn't find it but charged me $65. Had I had a nail, bolt or screw, it would have been $30. So that does add quickly at a dealership.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for sharing

  • @katief.1696
    @katief.1696 Год назад

    Also, repeat customer is very good for business. As with most consumer items, companies don't sell quality, they sell on legacy perception and current hype.

  • @FryChicken
    @FryChicken 8 месяцев назад

    New car interiors are designed to photograph well, because tiktok and instagram. Old car interiors touch and feel well. I'm thinking 90s Mercedes interiors vs the newest interiors which photograph well, but are made of cheap chromed plastic, crunchy, and scratch very easily.

  • @Numberone292
    @Numberone292 Год назад +2

    Sorry pal but you should had purchased a #1 Lexus, Porsche, Acura, Lincoln suv, Tesla
    Stay away from BMW Benz Lamborghini Ferrari Austin Martin jaguars Alfa Romeo Volvo Tesla model y, Cadillac Audi Land Rover

    • @Numberone292
      @Numberone292 Год назад

      Lexus is absolutely the very best luxury brand. Luxury quality reputation elegance sophisticated

    • @clutchinc.7070
      @clutchinc.7070 Год назад

      @@Numberone292 but all of those are such cool cars

  • @ariesmight6978
    @ariesmight6978 Год назад +5

    Junk should be advertised as junk. Sold at a fair price as junk should be!!

  • @Tsukuyomi8
    @Tsukuyomi8 Год назад +1

    Great video as always just one question though... If I buy a new AMG A35 how bad could that go?

  • @johnathandaviddunster38
    @johnathandaviddunster38 Год назад +1

    Mercedes are cutting their own throats .... quality is remembered long after price is forgotten .....

  • @esemteckreal4873
    @esemteckreal4873 9 месяцев назад

    Just bought one. Mine is white. Love it. Haven’t driven it much. Love ties though.