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Artifact Heaven! Exploring the Loaded Smith & Wesson Mine
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2021
- Happy Memorial Day, let's keep in mind why we have this day off. This is a somber day in which we honor the service and memory of all our fallen soldiers. Now, to the video. This was quite the hike to this former copper, lead and zinc mine. The only way I could describe this mine is loaded and amazing! There were literally dozens of artifacts scattered on and below the waste rock pile, as well as at the main mill site. The main find at the mill was a large trommel with cables going down which was part of the aerial tramway. This would have been one hell of an operation and I would've loved to see this mine back in the day. I'll definitely have to return and do a more thorough explore as well as ones in the nearby mountains. Hope you guys enjoy this one, and as always thanks for watching!
John A. Roebling's Sons Company not only made the wire rope (cable) used on the Golden Gate Bridge, they also made the wire rope used for the Cerro Gordo Mines tramways, and a lot of other mines. Johann August Röbling designed the East River Bridge, later renamed the Brooklyn Bridge. Though he never got to see it built, construction on it started a year after he died in 1869. He also designed the Cincinnati-Covington Bridge in Ohio that crosses the Ohio River at Cincinnati, which was later renamed the John A. Roebling Suspension Bridge in his honor. And quite a few other bridges.
I appreciate your attention to artifacts, and your educated guesses at what it could have been and from what era. And have been enjoying your progression in terminology and knowledge compared to when I first started watching you.
Wow so much awesome info! Greatly appreciate it man. I've come across many a mine with either a Roebling spool used for wire rope inside a mine and on this explore part of the tram/pulley mechanism. Really amazing history behind this company that's for sure whether it's mines or bridges. Thanks for watching!
Just imagine getting all that equipment up there and pouring those concrete footings. Unbelievable! Thank you for being in good physical condition to bring this to us..
I watched the other YT video on this mine yesterday, but what I especially like about your explorations is your attention to artifacts. And that you identify the name of the manufacture, and any other data, of the machinery.
I agree, it makes it more interesting to document mfg. names of machinery and artifacts. This is easier to watch, rather than just wandering through stopes and adits, which pretty much all look the same on video.
Love your enthusiasm and how you look at the artefacts. I’m always in awe of how they got this heavy equipment up these mountains in the first place. Some of the engines and compressors must have weighed half a ton or more. 👍🏻🇦🇺😁
Ive always appreciated that you look for dates and words on artifacts you find. Never stop doing that.
Don't stress about any comments about who else has been to this mine and when. It doesn't matter. It's your personality, perspective, how you present it, and so many other reasons that people like myself enjoy watching your videos. You're doing great. I love your content mate. Cheers from Australia.
I live here in Nevada and I have seen vid's of the same mine from 3 different people and each video is to its own. I went to one of these mines "not knowing I had seen vid's already" and I did not figure it out until I saw something deep that I recognized. The fact is NOBODY is the first in a abandoned mine, maybe just the first in a long time.
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Agreed ..also from Australia
That waterfall is great to detect with a metal detector and just below the waterfall! Gold is there for sure!
The picture/color quality of your camera is outstanding. Great video.
you must have just passed Mine Explorers ....they just showed this mine ....we have been to this one many times ....first filmed it in 97. ...it gets real hot in that canyon...they mined Molybdenum there which was used for WW2 ...we have been all over those mountains as far back as 1982 ...could tell ya stories ....they did not use a skip car but standard ore cars because the gentle angle of the shaft .... good vid sonny Jim
Hey Jeff! Ya know he seen I posted this I guess on Instagram and decided to either go there or maybe he had a video prior ready to go up. Not cool to oversaturate the content but oh well. This is your backyard that's for sure! I'm working my way around, trying to hit the best sites of the area. Thanks for the the great info and thanks for watching!
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At 20:05 this is the base of the hoist, which hold the other part that you showed at 7:05, at around 15:46 this is a trommel sieve not a ball mill they are used to separate smaller rocks from the bigger ones. small rock would fall true the holes in the screen and bigger ones would come out again. Also Flywheels are really big as they store (and overcome) momentum usually the are found on engines. a lot of the wheels are pulleys as these would be driven by a flat belt. At 18:00 this is indeed a six cilinder, but a 2 stroke Diesel Engine (as it only has 1 exhaust valve, petrol engines usually have 2) The flywheel of this engine is shown at 5:30 probably.
Thank you for the information on the engine. I was wondering.
not a 2 stroke or a diesel, I would say it's an early 4 stroke petrol with vertically opposed valves, one overhead valve, the other a side valve. You can see where the tappet cover is off and there's 2 tappets per cylinder. You can also see the metal tube that held the plug leads.
You're right about everything else though.
Nice video. You do a much better job examining artifacts than a lot of others. You may not always know what they are for but you take the time to look closely. Thanks!
Appreciate that. With each video I learn more and am able to better identify them. This site taught me alot, many items I've never come across before. Thanks for watching!
Your enthusiasm is infectious.
That's right my boy, keep killing it with these videos. What a great looking mine!
Thanks bro! It definitely is, what with the tramway, structures and all those artifacts scattered about. Really is stimulation overload. Thanks for checking this one out!
Thanks again for sharing life with enthusiasm and passion for the Mine's cool
Of course! Nothing else I'd rather do on my spare time. Thanks for watching!
Many of those “fly wheels” are drive belt pulleys.
Appreciate the good input! Easier to call them all flywheels haha. I'll take note of that for next explore..
Nice adventure my friend, your new friend from Canada 🇨🇦👍👍👍
One brake drum was probably a flywheel with a ring gear for a starter motor to start the engine. A couple of the pulleys were from the Tramway. Well spotted in identifying the big flywheels not only as stationary engine flywheels but from Hit n miss engines which would also have been my guess.
Great video Love all the old wheels and things. Amazing all the things left.
Nice, just saw this mine on another channel. Love how you go into the detail of the artifacts on where they are manufactured and dates. What a museum though. That is some rough and rugged country. Beautiful views and scenery.
That was really cool!
Man that was awesome looks like the miners just left it yesterday buy the looks of those timbers and all those or shoots .great video thanks for sharing
You really documented the finest explore yet. I’ll watch this again, so much to sink in. !!!
Please be careful and keep these awesome adventures coming, all them artifacts are amazing!!! Holy crap how the hell they get all that up there,? And the concrete??
I’m looking out for the next adventure!!!
Going in Solo is cray cray, fun and all but cray.
An amazing video.
At 14:11 that is an mining tramway bull wheel, most likely built by Riblet in the early days. Reobling also made ski lifts and so did riblet in the later days. awsome find by the way
Here are my thoughts: Originally all the artifacts you found on the way up were all part of the machinery inside the building that would have sat on that concrete foundation, that then got spread out after the fire as everything collapsed, and by landslides/washouts/wintertime avalanches, and judging by the state of the parts the fire likely happened atleast 10-20 years ago or more. Not to mention scrappers and vandals thats tossed stuff down the mountain over the decades, or the DEP/Forest Service that may have bulldozed the place for "our safety"
The pulley with the piece of shaft in it was most likely part of a lineshaft likely driven by the engine block and crankshaft complete with con rods and flywheel you found on the concrete foundation, that then ran the machinery through belts that ran on those wide crowned pulleys you found around the place, however those big long ones with the gears on them were likely part of a conveyor belt.
The "hit n miss" engine the two flywheels you found in the beginning was from was probably used to run the winch the cable drum with the big gear was from, this im fairly sure of as i've seen a winch with most of an engine just like that in another video. These would have been separate to the main building, like next to the headframe that would have sat atop a vertical shaft for bringing ore up from deeper parts of the mine, or part of a tram/skipcar line.
And that large tank was probably a water storage tank.
This is all based on what is still visible, im sure most of the remains of the machinery are buried deep by now.
Those pedal sets, the flywheel with the ring-gear, the piece of shaft with the four gears on it and the engine block you found in the beginning are from a car or truck that likely burned along with the rest of the building and then got smashed up into pieces by the landslides/washouts as everything coreened down the mountain, the piece of shaft with the four gears would have most loikely been part of the vehicles gearbox.
Those circular metal sheets with all the holes were part of a classifier trommel system that sent material that was still to big back to the crusher to be recrushed, and material that was too small(basically fine sand and dust) was sent to another part of the process as it needed as different treatment compared to the correctly sized material.
What an awesome video, you could spend days going through the artifacts and mine. Thanks again.
The first two wheels were indeed from an engine. The intricate casting just inside the first portal is the base of the engine.Several large wheels (called flywheels) connected to the bevel gears are actually sheaves, the groove is to hold a cable, probably a track cable for a tramway. The bevel gears attached to the cylinders are head rollers for conveyor belts.
Just think you are walking in someones miners feet where they use to work in the shafts.:) Im stoked because it feels like im right there with you:) thats they way it feels for me . thank you for this wonderful time travel thru the past i didnt know._) Im greatful for that.
Nice to put a glass on top and make a nice table.
Very kool video and you got another great cardio work out
You must be part Billy Goat 🐐
Stay safe 🙏
Another amazing mine, the massive room, and that timbered decline shaft was really cool, and all the relics.
Very nice location.
Watched this yesterday on mine explorers 31/5/21 / must admit I found your video more interesting as you explained every artifact ( sometimes right sometimes wrong ) seemed for the size of the artefacts ( bulk ) trail you would think that the actual mine should be huge / but then I wasn’t and have never been there / I don’t know whether you are by yourself or have mates with you but it would be a long time before a rescue could be made / I am now retired but spent 45 years in the dark and watch people go into these mines who have no clue of what the situation is / I really enjoy your videos and you must be a healthy lad after watching this one , for the height this mine is from ground level / take care buddy as I want to watch more from you / from Australian retired miner thank you 😁🐿
You notice how well made the stove,flywheels etc are made compared to things made today. And still in good condition after 100 years.
28:54 someone wrote on the break room wall, "If President Bush gets his way we'll all be living here" 😄
Extremely well done Jerith! Excellent finds and the work on the mine itself is amazing. I could hear the old miner's sledging away, running cars, yelling to each other, wiping the sweat from their faces. Hard to believe that someone back then would look up that canyon and said 'that's the spot, let's start digging'. Thank you for taking the time to read the manufacture names and filming the artifacts - it really adds to the feel of mining and those that worked there. And thank you for respecting the places, those other youtuber's give me the shivers with their loudness and fouling around inside the shafts. I am grateful for my time exploring these places and being taught to respect them. You are only getting better and better at your productions. Besides that - did you notice that the newspapers you found were from Kentucky? Some miner either had them sent to him or brought them out with him.
I appreciate your knowledge. I was throughly pleased when you knew what a cone top can was.
Some of the lumber in that mine looks like they just bought it yesterday at home Depot. Amazing
The mine was restarted again in the 1950s for a while.
Wow there's so much stuff up at this one you can build a museum up there this is very neat thank you for showing this ✌️
Awesome video once again 🌞🏔🏡
Thank you for taking your time.
Very cool explore. Thank you.
In the beginning all the pulleys you find make me think they were part of the tramway. Electric switch gear looks like controller for a mine train engine. Several trommels were in use in various locations. Lots of equipment all over the place - thanks for sharing and documenting!
WoW this was an AMAZING video the artifacts were great and That BALLROOM was MASSIVE... Keep up the AWESOME explores young man !!!
That electrical device with all of the contacts is a motor speed controller. It inserts resistors into the circuit to control the speed of the hoist motor.
That "Drum brake" is a fly wheel off a more modern engine prob post 50s
I think the building holding all that equipment burned and collapsed which caused all of
the stuff to be hurled down the wash. If you look at the bent up wheel or pulley at 16:09
it is evident it came down with force. Regards from Ody Slim
That gear set was a "cluster" from a '30s Ford transmission! The bock was probably from a Model T.
Awesome mine. There are so many cool artifacts
Thanks alot Naomi! This is definitely a great one. Thanks for stopping by to check out this one.
That group of gears you held up is called a cluster gear. It's from an automobile transmission.
i was excited to watch but i saw it two days ago maybee i'll watch in a couple weeks! thanks anyway ill wait for the next one.
Great tour of the mine area ... interesting mental finds, all tore apart what got? 🤔 Dought there was any 🤑 in scrap.
Really awesome mine!..
at 3.34 that is a water tank for a rock drill. it was used for supplying water for the drill so they could drill wet.
at 20.17 that base is for a hit and miss engine
I appreciate you knowledge. on other channels some other might say how did that stuff get there. it must have been done by ancient ailiens
Give some thought to massive rattle snakes when you reach under anything.
Hi Jerith, wow so many cool pieces of machinery just sliding down the mountainside, I think that thing on the rails you thought was an ore car could possibly be for a hoist maybe ???, just an idea. A great video as always, thank you for sharing, much love. xx 💖
Hey Sue! So many great artifacts to be found all over the waste rock pile, was really crazy to see. Possibly, no one else has chimed in so that may be it. Whatever it is you can tell it's been disassembled a bit which is a shame. Thanks for watching as always!
Think you have a New nic name BILLY GOAT.all Kidding aside nice to see the artifacts and pointing out what they are .Out my way in the pacific north west up where the snow fall gets very deep and where the mines are at one mine that finally produced a lot of GOLD they used a steam donkey to pull it's self up the Mt to bring equipment it took 2.5 years to get it there.So good luck one your adventures ⛏️⛰️⛑️👍
I have seen pictures of the steam donkey part way up on part of the ⛰️all for one of the richest deposits of gold 🤔⛏️
I was wondering what was mined, thanks to Jeff for telling us. Your videos are great not only for the artifact search but for the information on them. Keep up the good work.
Other than Moybdenum, copper, lead and zinc were also mined out of this one. I sure do try my best, I've never come across such a mine with so many artifacts some I couldn't pinpoint exactly what they were. Thanks for watching!
Sehr, sehr "geil" 👍und alles sieht so neu aus. Es ist dort bestimmt sehr trocken, weil alt scheint es ja zu sein.?
got to say that i watched both videos from mine explorers and your s they are both great and you have shown thing that they did not good work stay safe out there
with groove for belt its called a sheave or pulley. next to it was a maybe a flywheel, small bolt pattern is giveaway. if brake drum bolt pattern might be wider.
up until about 6 years ago, there were insulators in 2 of the trees rounding the corner from the big horn. Both trees are down, if you want the insulators, they are still there
The clutch pedal was probably an old vehicle that was converted that it's drive train drive a pump or other machinery. Act merely as a power source with a gearbox
i think its very impressive that you find the time and have the energy to do all this exploring, better to do this while your still young and fit before the body begins to fail like some of us watching, i wonder what your friends make of all this that you do, and wonder what you would be doing otherwise, what sort of work will you be getting into in the future, perhaps one day you might take over an abandoned mine?
i know from various videos i have watched that you travel some distances to get to these places, amazing you have the drive and ability, but are these your only interests, what else would you do? - i can't think that i have done anything in my life that equates anywhere close to this exploring, sure i have travelled a bit, been to the US and Europe, driven many miles and only seen the scenery and mountains of Alps from my car and lorry while driving through on the way to former Yugoslavia during the troubles in the 90's
i love what you do, the freedom you have to do this, can't wait to see more content
The wide pulleys are for flat belts.
You mean EVERY round wheel isnt a flywheel?!?. LOL.
That was a great tour. Looks like So Cal.
Thanks alot! Just to let you know, this isn't in California. You're close though
@@WesternMineDetective your video documentation is as close as I will ever get to seeing these locations as I am in my latter 60's, though I still consider myself a 20 something. My thought as you were climbing that wash below the mine site was prospecting the ateas below those falls. Of course if not a gold mine would be a waste of time. As others have already observed some of the artifacts you identified are automotive. Incredible to imagine the effort it took to get all that equipment up there. Thanks for what you do. Ian
Man just dragging just one of those pieces of lumber all the way up there must have been a monumental effort...for molybdenum no less. I wonder what process was used to make those welds?
According to the federal mining database on the internet. If that is the Smith &Wesson mine it was operated first in 191xs and again at least in the 195xs. The principle ore was chromium.
I’m binge watching your amazing videos. I am also a mine explorer. How many extra lights to you carry?
I have my main headlamp and handheld, along with two other lights with a bunch of spare batteries
The drum break is an automotive manual transmission flywheel
With the large amount of evidence of there having been apparently a pretty substantial fire that ripped through that mine, I’d have to say that old Westinghouse lightening spark arrester’s warrantee must’ve expired a very long time ago! As per whether this sights mining equipment was dragged down the steep mountain side from major flooding or, theft attempts, note that the vast majority of them parts have been disassembled and every single electrical isolator or switch has ZERO copper left.. this site has tragically been pilfered BY MINE SITE THIEVES BADLY! Possibly even who set fire to whatever wood items were outside of the portals & open stopes as it’d be a lot easier & faster to bundle up “scrap” by simply burning away whatever wood held anything together. Now that cast iron base that has those two raised Babbitt bearing halves, with top halves missing, is most likely the base of a wire rope wench, of which that one drum you came across that you had to rotate for a better view, would’ve been mounted on, with them first two matching flywheels being part of either a gasoline “Hit’n Miss” governed engine or, a kerosene “Throttle” governed engine, directly coupled too said wench via same base. There was that one spot I seen (I forget what timestamp mark) inside the mine, that looks as being the most likely spot this unit would’ve been mounted. Some original old historical B&W pic’s of THIS mine site would be very much welcomed pictures to see, if you could find any archived shots! Must have been one heck of a major operation indeed!!! I did notice what may be a small fraction of copper wiring still hanging from those isolators on that uppermost electrical pole setup but, those were probably skipped due to being too high off the ground.
Amazing find of artifacts. I really wonder how they got all that heavy equipment to such a remote area. Was there a railroad at some point in time or a road or was it mules and wagons ? Really cool though.
"All" the roads have been abandoned. Within a few years, nature washes away the improvements, so vehicle access is limited or excluded. For example, autos drove to Panamint City. Today the hike is challenging.
Fabulous video again ..i love your enthusiasm and energy..oh to be young again ..great work young man ..gentle nature is very soothing ..thanks for your videos ..from Australia ..
The makeshift stove the S.O.C.A. = Standard Oil California = 55 gal oil drum from the early 1900's
FYI, those big cylinder things are probably parts of an old multi-stage trammel, the "fly wheels" look like wire rope sheaves (the ones with the V cut in), the ones which are flat, are for flat belts.
Thanks for the great info! Definitely noted for next time I come across such pieces
You are doing fantastic and bright for parts, yes you are at the main shaft where people used those items to work into the mine and yes im glad, sum are still there to tell the tells of how and what it was for?Not sure how the pieces got where they are now??? That motor was used inside the mine shaft was inside all those metal pieces put it in good shape and work was 24-7. The cans and bottles men use to keep little items or treasures when they came out of work and placed them on the ground n next day they would pick them up, and put other items in them then they would leave them for next day. yes sad to see people took them as they were there not long ago:( the mine workers stashed silver in those cans with a lighter. or a little note from wife or child and never came back to get his can of treasure he died in the mine company or moved out. my knowing alot of miners died right where you are exploring.I believe there was 500 to 1000 people. that tin all around is from old homes they made and put together making a town, ahead people use to have little buildings up to sleep or saloon so they could hear music and dance along with a museum items to put there as well.they didnt have much water ithink total they had like 200 gallons is all they had:)
Now those old plates just think the miners use to eat from them.:)
Dam people cant keep there fingers off of anything from the miners they have to seek and destroy.:(. My heart is hurting right now!!History
Love all the gear you are finding heading up, 12:31 Have never seen that Insulator (Peircs) probably get $15 even though it's broken, it's interesting with it being all connected.
Where it this located??
Dam bro this is by far your best ever Mine video. Wow love those newspaper finds. Such a cool adventure inside the caves. Keep up the great work. I wonder how come there was so many artifacts left all over the place?
Thanks alot man! Now what I'm thinking is someone burnt down these buildings and whatnot so that what's left over is the valuable metals that they could sell for scrap. Total dick move but it's the way some people think. Destroy historical sites for little gain. After the fire, all sorts of pieces from machinery and equipment rolled down the waste rock pile and eventually into the wash.
That thing at the entrance looks like the remains of a mucker
Those "wheels" are from the tram system
The gear attached to the metal axle and metal cylinder, looks a lot like something from a conveyor belt type system. I don't remember ever seeing the name "Peirce', which is usually spelled "i-e" not "e-i",
Thanks for the input! I believe you're right, I've never come across a piece like it. Lots of new ones for me at this site. And yeah the spelling was interesting with it being e before I. Thanks for watching!
@@WesternMineDetective I guess you saw the WW2 era info below from Ask Jeff... you were close with your guess. I've only been Virtual Exploring old mines in Canada, mostly in the mtns of BC.
5:43: looks like the Clutch/Flywheeel of an Engine. The other thing looks like something for fine milling.
20:18 looks like the body of a hit and miss. Those arms in the back would hold the Crankshaft.
1:36 I like to think someone rolled it off the hill for shits and giggles.
the deal you thought was a break drum was a fly wheel off a engine
The bottoms of the old waterfalls is probably a good place to look for nuggets
it's a copper and lead mine, not gold
@@AUMINER1 copper and lead nuggets then.
Those 2 flywheels probably weigh 1 to 200 lbs each
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Mine Explores posted this mine yesterday, check out the drone footage they did . AWESOME
That is flywheel to a motor. The riveted parts are form the late 1800s.
Trammell
Not an ore car. Some kind of hoist or winch base or chassis.
There would have been more to it.
Edited to add, keep it up you're doing well.
Appreciate the great input! Another person mentioned it may be the base off a hoist.
cylindrical pieces,, belt pulley. long ago many machines were powered with flat wide belts.
Appreciate your knowledge, helps me better understand these sites with insight from viewers like you!
that is a flywheel off a engine the gear ring is for the starter
Looks like heaven for snakes - be careful with all that old tin
Ive found a few dry waterfalls, and chased them, things can get interesting up above them, since few people have ever been there. Get in the habit of looking in those big rock crevices as you walk, things can be found there due to the waters current and they get stuck in those areas. 05:40 looks like a flywheel with holes in it to attach to a crankshaft. 09:35 Yes, clutch & brake setup appears attached to a bellhousing. 15:02 Glad I didnt have to install those electrical poles all the way up there, damn. 28:58...nobody cares throw their damned card away, lol. 37:11 s o co. Standard Oil Company probably.
"Hey guys" 😅 I found your channel recently and I love it. Great content man! You really love what you do and it's easy to see that. I hope you keep doing this for a long time to come. What got you into this?
Also, If I could offer just 1 real piece of advice. Consider getting some skold brand gaiters or something similar just in case you ever accidentally step too close to a snake or slide your leg into a sharp edge etc. Ive spent the better part of 30 years outdoors and it just took one quiet rattlesnake behind a tiny patch of dead grass to ruin a good trip and the next half year after that. That $50 could save you a world or trouble and just protects your shins/calfs from whatever. Because you're just so far out there sometimes and the more protection the better, and god forbid, but you'd be one bad bite away from losing a leg (best case scenario if you're more than 3 hours away and can still egress independently or get to a point where help could extract you) and gaiters just help avoid that chance almost entirely. If not. I'm sure you'll have a good reason. Just wanted to throw it out there.
Really appreciate these types of comments, they really keep me going. So it's a long story, sort of. I got into exploring abandoned mines at the age of 19, I was aware of it probably since I was 18. I've always been a huge history buff and I started to watch Exploring Abandoned Mines and Unusual Places and that got me hooked. I started local and within a few months I was exploring all over California, and now Nevada and Arizona. Definitely keeps me in shape and keeps me busy as well. As for the gaiters that's definitely an idea don't wanna be bitten by a snake out in the wild. Thanks for checking out my channel, and this video!
That's a really cool backstory. Maybe consider doing a short video on that backstory and what drives you to explore. I'm sure your viewers would be interested! I'm considering getting into mine exploring as well. I have so much awesome camping gear and camp everywhere and I'm just inspired lately to get back out and explore some new things. Happy trails man!
At 38:10- what's that dark shape in the background, above the bush, about the center of the screen? If I didn't know any better, I would think that you caught the spirit of a miner!
That looks like a tramway mechanism
That was a belt drum.