Panamint City Part 2 - Exploring Its Mining History

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
  • The Wyoming Mine was discovered shortly after Panamint City’s big silver strike in 1873. It would soon become one of the principal mines in the district with its rich ore assaying up to $600 per ton. In the beginning, the Wyoming Mine went through the hands of several different operators including the Wyoming Consolidated and Panamint Mining Companies. It, along with most of the other claims in surprise canyon were eventually consolidated by the Surprise Valley Mill and Water Co. This company would turn the Wyoming mine into a large producer. In 1875 a 20 stamp mill and reduction furnace were built to process ore from the mines. A 2,600 foot long aerial tramway was built to connect the Wyoming Mine with the mill. Full production at the Wyoming Mine was short lived, however. By 1876 the ores were considered to be almost depleted and total shutdown occurred in 1877. By then, Panamint City was already dead. The Wyoming Mine would go through brief periods of activity through the 1880s and 90s.
    In the 1920s, the Wyoming Mine was purchased by the new Panamint Mining Company. This company reconditioned the tramway and invested in heavy exploration at the mine. Their largest feat was blasting the 2,300 foot Lewis Tunnel just above the old mill. This operation however, proved to be a failure. The last period of mining in Panamint City occurred in the 1970s and 80s when silver prices were high. A lower adit using haulage trucks was dug about 200 feet below the old workings. It is unclear if this adit found any good ore.
    The older workings of the Wyoming Mine consist of three principle adits: The Tramway, Kennedy, and Limestone Tunnels. The Tramway Tunnel is positioned right at the head of the old aerial tramway and contains lots of interesting mining equipment from the 1970s mining revival. Near the face of the adit there is a raise that apparently connects with the Kennedy Tunnel. This adit was most likely named after William Kennedy who was part of the trio that made the silver discovery in 1873. In the video, we explore an adit that I originally called the Kennedy Tunnel. However, I later questioned that. As of now, I am still not sure if the adit we explored was the Kennedy Tunnel or not. We may have been searching too high on the mountainside. The only way to confirm would be to make a return trip and possibly climb up the steep raise.
    On the opposite side of the ridge as the other two adits sits the Limestone Tunnel. A big portion of the ore produced from the Wyoming Mine came from these workings. The Limestone Tunnel is interesting, as it appears to have not been reworked since the late 1800s. Its main features consist of a tall stope full of giant live-edge timbering and a winze 300 feet deep. What lies at the bottom of this winze is unknown to me. Above the tunnel there are a number of collapsed stopes and adits.
    The Wyoming Mine was such a great mine to explore and was the highlight of our trip. After this we hiked over to Marvel Canyon and checked out the Hemlock Mine. This will be the primary focus of Part 3. Stay tuned!
    Xavier’s RUclips Channel can be found here: / ercole746

Комментарии • 153

  • @MinesoftheWest
    @MinesoftheWest 3 года назад +28

    Gotta love seeing some fellow mining history nerds enjoying a good ole’ ore car ride haha. Nice work guys!

  • @mikewinings4120
    @mikewinings4120 Год назад +3

    Xavier is definitely the best dressed mine explorers that ever was,great explore guys once again 😂

  • @Kahn45
    @Kahn45 3 года назад +2

    I like watching these guys in mines. They don't take stupid risk or touch things they shouldn't.

  • @lindalakota38
    @lindalakota38 3 года назад +4

    Looks like it was late 70s or even 80s constructions its amazing how well stuff stays perserved out their

  • @theogdirkdiggler
    @theogdirkdiggler 2 года назад +1

    Thats a $500 dollar DC motor.
    I think that the Panimint valley is one of the most beautiful places Ive ever seen.
    Geat document.

    • @forgottenmininghistory
      @forgottenmininghistory  2 года назад +1

      Thanks! The panamint valley is an amazing place with lots more to see.

  • @edbrick7689
    @edbrick7689 Год назад +2

    @25:00, that tool for clearing drill holes is referred to as a "spoon". It is used for removing debree from the hole so the powder can make it to the back of the drill hole.

  • @jeremyp7293
    @jeremyp7293 3 года назад +8

    21:00 This mine is ready to be mined again. 2 ore carts, slusher, tracks and the air compressor already there. maybe the air blower from the other mine in the previous clip could be used too

  • @janblake9468
    @janblake9468 3 года назад +16

    You're presenting excellent coverage of Panamint City area mines.

  • @LiftingwithGrandpaCharlie
    @LiftingwithGrandpaCharlie 3 года назад +4

    Lots of mines, ghost towns across Panamint valley and up in the Argus mountains !
    A trek to Darwin Falls would be cool ! Literally !
    I use to live out there.
    PS. Panamint City is a ghost town in Death Valley National Park !

    • @abdlmjidbaffo2931
      @abdlmjidbaffo2931 3 года назад +1

      Hello, how are you? I saw your comment and loved it. How did they migrate and leave? كل شيء خلفهم مدا كان يستخرجون من تحت الأرض شكرا ل

  • @josephpettus3718
    @josephpettus3718 3 года назад +1

    WOW .! DID ANYONE ELSE CATCH THAT ORB APPEAR AND DISAPPEAR AT 2o.37 time stamp it was about 8 or ten seconds behind the ore cart moving down the track . I think when moving around the ore car it brought it out . It is a perfect capture with no smoke or mirrors .

    • @palmhall
      @palmhall Год назад

      I did, I’ve seen three in the second episode.

  • @nathanek6598
    @nathanek6598 3 года назад +3

    The ore car ride was a classic! Good job on balancing the scenery and mine workings.

  • @stevengeisler3370
    @stevengeisler3370 2 года назад +1

    We went to Panamint back in the 70's. We met was a caretaker and his wife Very Cool. There was a Pond in front of their cabin fed from the creek, which was running that summer. We drove a 4WD Toyota all the way from Death valley to Panamint, there was a road with rock foundation's for tents on both sides of the road . Big difference from now.....That was a good time, have not forgotten all these years.

  • @williamfox4041
    @williamfox4041 3 года назад +7

    The glass vile that you found was quite possibly a vile with dried nitroglycerin crystals ( was liquid originally), and was put into drill holes ( that were single jacked ) for blasting. If so you were quite lucky that it didn't go off when it was shakened . It was used before dynamite was around.

  • @deathvalley1592
    @deathvalley1592 3 года назад +4

    BEST VIDEOS OF THE PANAMINT MINES!! GREAT MINE LIGHTING TOO. YOU GOOD BOYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB 👍👍👍👍😁

  • @anonymous_protagonist
    @anonymous_protagonist 11 месяцев назад

    I went down the tramway tunnel about 50 years ago with my dad, back before all the new construction. It's amazing how much most of it still all looks like I remember. Except for that collapsed section covering the track; that was just a small semi-solid section to one side of the tunnel and much less broken up. I also don't remember so much wood covering the drop just before the rise. It was mostly just a gaping opening in the floor and scared the heck out of my 9 year-old self. Anyhow, thanks for sharing this video!

  • @SteveKasian
    @SteveKasian 3 года назад +2

    Very well put together and narrated! Really enjoyed this video, and didn't once go, "Point the camera! SHOW US!!! WHAT ARE YOU DOING??" ... which is very rare for me, as most producers do some really annoying stuff from time to time. Plus, you actually know what you're talking about, and always get your terminology right! Great job!

  • @futuresight6005
    @futuresight6005 3 года назад +4

    Absolutely loved Part 1 and 2....Those mountainous views are Beautiful!...The ore car ride you all took, looked fun..Great inside views of the adits as well..Awesome job Guys!..Im looking forward to part 3..Thank You!..

  • @abitterpill7331
    @abitterpill7331 3 года назад +4

    So you explored the Wyoming mine, but have you ever explored any mines in Wyoming? That rolling mine cart was a great find. Rare to see them in such good shape.

  • @mikewinings4120
    @mikewinings4120 Год назад +2

    I love how at the end of the drift, under the graffiti,you can actually see the funnel like scattering of the rock and the striations in the drill hole, lots of force to leave behind visual marks of the blast,thanks guys😊

    • @forgottenmininghistory
      @forgottenmininghistory  Год назад +1

      It's always neat to see the fracturing left from a blast. Thanks for watching

  • @SueGirling68
    @SueGirling68 3 года назад +2

    Hi guys, such fantastic scenery there, a very cool explore of the workings there and I loved the design that slusher had for emptying the slusher bucket, pretty neat how the old miners used to find solutions for getting the ore out. Some very cool machinery in the area and that generator was huge. Awesome to see the old tram towers still standing, imagine all of the history they have seen come and go, if only they could talk. Thank you for sharing, much love. xx 💖

  • @edbrick7689
    @edbrick7689 Год назад +2

    The drill steel at 7:40 is called a Swede Steel. It is a less preferred chisel type carbide steel. A more preferred drill steel has a 22 degree taper and uses knock off star or cross bits.

  • @isaiahshaffer
    @isaiahshaffer 3 года назад +5

    Nice seeing the old GM Detroit up there, everything up there is exciting, can’t wait for the other videos!

  • @mitchellbarnow1709
    @mitchellbarnow1709 3 года назад +1

    This four part series is really incredible! I had no idea that the Panamint City area concealed such rich mines. I look forward to the next two parts.

  • @marcfournier823
    @marcfournier823 3 года назад +1

    I appreciate your knowledge of mining machinery and engineering.

  • @chriswertz1438
    @chriswertz1438 6 месяцев назад +1

    Nice work, show more of the rock inside the mine, it would be great to see good pics of ore.

  • @miguelangelvalderrama1808
    @miguelangelvalderrama1808 3 года назад +1

    🤣🤣🤣Gravity power, very good that ore car must have been so happy playing with you both, after many years there alone.

  • @edbrick7689
    @edbrick7689 Год назад +2

    At 7:12 the bracket holding the timber cap up without posts is referred to as "Bullhorns" in the mining trade.

  • @lordhamercy9098
    @lordhamercy9098 2 года назад

    Y’all riding in the mining cart made me more happy than it should have😂😎👍

  • @mikewinings4120
    @mikewinings4120 Год назад +1

    I have a Gardner denver stoping drill,found it down 300 ft in a mine at my friend's property in Colorado, still runs

  • @jontrout007
    @jontrout007 3 года назад +1

    Great video and excellent dialog as always! California history and some nice mine shots.

  • @kimbra1132
    @kimbra1132 3 года назад +1

    Ore car ride, yeh! That's always so fun. Neat explore guys. The fault zones in that mine were cool.

  • @michaelrietz9220
    @michaelrietz9220 2 года назад

    hello my good friend i enjoy your show keep up good work i would love get back in to mineing again sometime this years

  • @workonitm8
    @workonitm8 2 года назад

    I think I liked the part about the countryside, old buildings and machinery more than the mine itself.
    Very interesting !
    Would love to visit and explore there some day.
    Thanks

  • @anned8634
    @anned8634 Год назад

    loader slusher setups are old school ways to load ore cars, i have set them up many times in a small mining operation where we did not have a mucking mechine.

  • @AUMINER1
    @AUMINER1 3 года назад +2

    excellent coverage of these mines :)

  • @cds1957
    @cds1957 3 года назад +2

    Nice video guys! Keep up the good work!👍

  • @VegasCyclingFreak
    @VegasCyclingFreak 3 года назад +2

    Nice detective work on these mines

  • @Ercole746
    @Ercole746 3 года назад +3

    Excellent footage my friend. That was a fun trip, we need to do more backpacking trips.

    • @scottlarue5432
      @scottlarue5432 3 года назад

      look at the spirit orb at 20:37. The mine custodian appeared to go after you when you were crying in that ore car.

    • @mitchellbarnow1709
      @mitchellbarnow1709 3 года назад

      What an incredible place! I can’t wait for parts 3 & 4. Thank you so much for taking along in this awesome channel, Xavier.

  • @theogdirkdiggler
    @theogdirkdiggler 3 года назад +3

    Those Bristlecone Pines are the oldest trees on Earth.
    Great Job the Narrating and video!
    That miners graffiti looks like it said
    " Siuslaw "

  • @Eastwood69
    @Eastwood69 3 года назад +1

    I absolutely love your videos! You guys are clearly having a blast!

  • @nepriandries
    @nepriandries 3 года назад +1

    amazing i am very happy to see you working greetings from me traditional indonesian gold miner👍🔔👈🇮🇩🙏🏻🤝

  • @cowboygeologist7772
    @cowboygeologist7772 Год назад

    Great video; thanks for posting.

  • @hgdcbbgilnvd
    @hgdcbbgilnvd 2 года назад +1

    Thanks Nick

  • @davidmaggard2796
    @davidmaggard2796 3 года назад +1

    Great video guys thanks so much for sharing been waiting on this one big thumbs up great work

  • @BB_46
    @BB_46 3 года назад +1

    Nice explore guys. 👍

  • @Mark_The_Magnificent
    @Mark_The_Magnificent 3 года назад +1

    Really great video here. Thoroughly enjoyed it!

  • @FrankBenlin
    @FrankBenlin 3 года назад +1

    When I get a new video notification from you I'm always glad because I know you have made it out of your latest exploration in one piece.

  • @squirlr.9069
    @squirlr.9069 2 года назад

    Nice job guys you guys are in better shape than me I would've collapsed and rolled to the bottom lol

  • @MrD308
    @MrD308 3 года назад

    Great work guys. The ore car ride looked like fun.

  • @jonathansmythe6273
    @jonathansmythe6273 3 года назад

    thanks, very nice. scenery is spectacular.

  • @tm8747
    @tm8747 3 года назад +1

    gardner-denver company originally was a steam unit, garder-denver only made steam units, compressing air to the workers in the mine, that jimmy diesel is 70's model i think by the looks of a in line 6- 2 stroke or a v-8 model only saw it briefly? they NEVER CHAINED UP THE ORE CARTS THEY DRIFE PINNED THEM TOGETHER, MINES DONT TAKE THE CHANCE OF CHAIN , CHAIN BREAKS AND KILLS, .

  • @miguelvaladez1700
    @miguelvaladez1700 3 года назад

    Wow is so beautiful there which can be part of your team man. Keep going and make a lot of fun.

  • @cbonz7734
    @cbonz7734 Год назад +2

    Great complex! What is your information source for the mine history? It's clear you already know a lot about the mines when you go in. Especially the mine maps??

    • @forgottenmininghistory
      @forgottenmininghistory  Год назад +1

      I got the mine maps from an old Cal Tech thesis on the geology of the area. A great site for finding info and maps is the "California Mines Geological Collection" on the Internet Archive website. Also just searching the internet can get you good results if you dig deep.

  • @rs2143
    @rs2143 3 года назад

    Cool Thank Gly Nice video and intro .

  • @AT1881Cowboy
    @AT1881Cowboy 2 года назад +2

    Maybe the small room with the metal door was explosives storage.

  • @mikeday62
    @mikeday62 Год назад +1

    It's obvious the tram towers were part of a ski lift before the mining operators used them.

  • @dezertraider
    @dezertraider 3 года назад +1

    OUTSTANDING.THANK YOU SO MUCH! FANTASTIC! SAFE TRAVELS..

  • @adirondackErin
    @adirondackErin 3 года назад

    Desert areas are so amazing for atifacts!

  • @arneservatius8686
    @arneservatius8686 3 года назад

    Thanks for identifying fissure and type of rock🇺🇸🤗

  • @HollywoodGraham
    @HollywoodGraham 3 года назад +1

    Good job, always interesting content.

  • @Panzerkita61
    @Panzerkita61 3 года назад

    Really well done. Thoroughly enjoyed it all. 😎✌🏻

  • @davidhead5943
    @davidhead5943 3 года назад

    Can't wait to see part 3 and 4 coming !!

  • @sddarkman619
    @sddarkman619 3 года назад

    can't wait for your hemlock explore!

  • @kadoj
    @kadoj 3 года назад

    Oh gods that’s fucking awesome. Minecraft rollercoaster for adults hahaha. Just watching that put a big ole grin on my face that I suspect will be plastered there for a good minute. Goddamn great.

  • @TheShornak
    @TheShornak 3 года назад +3

    When you were panning down on the 2nd and 3rd tower with the chimney there was a large chunk of metal to the right of it on the ground. I wonder if that is an old tram bucket?

  • @CapitalVideo
    @CapitalVideo 3 года назад

    When I visited Colorado in 1979, I was taken up Mt Evans and on the side of the road out of Idaho Springs, there was large number of mine adits with clearly dumped tailings. This was the first time I had ever seen anything like this and would have loved to taken a look inside some of them, but we did not have the time. I assume that they were gold mines but have not been able to find any information about them or whether they still exist and would be keen to know where to look.

  • @moeoeolycus189
    @moeoeolycus189 3 года назад

    some impressive stuff way up sourdough canyon too, looks like it was worked until the road washed out in the mid 80s

  • @DesertRat3536
    @DesertRat3536 3 года назад

    That was a great shot.

  • @richardmorrison2686
    @richardmorrison2686 2 года назад

    Very cool thank you

  • @millsy1861
    @millsy1861 2 года назад

    Cant help but think of Indiana Jones when i see those mining carts 😂

  • @kenmccormick3052
    @kenmccormick3052 3 года назад

    if you use metal supports for the overhead timbering, you do not have to make the tunnel as wide as would be needed if you used timber supports.

  • @OdySlim
    @OdySlim 3 года назад

    19:47 I wanna Go! Fun Video.. Regards from Ody Slim

  • @cwf081166
    @cwf081166 Год назад

    How much would it cost to build a chimney like that?

  • @peteracclimatiseconz
    @peteracclimatiseconz 3 года назад

    still got the blower unit on the GM motor.

  • @kevinbarrett9615
    @kevinbarrett9615 3 года назад

    Great video ! Very informative.

  • @AT1881Cowboy
    @AT1881Cowboy 2 года назад

    Awesome!!!

  • @nelsonmolina1846
    @nelsonmolina1846 3 года назад

    Just awesome!

  • @cheycasters
    @cheycasters 3 года назад +1

    again, I seen Charlie Manson at the very end of the road up there just four days before the clan got busted four days later... I was 13

  • @ralphpatrick3071
    @ralphpatrick3071 3 года назад

    That was a lot of fun!

  • @CrobatmanIamthenight
    @CrobatmanIamthenight 3 года назад

    you two are pretty different personality, your buddy is alot for silly and your more chill and apathetic

  • @steve-o6413
    @steve-o6413 3 года назад

    I wonder where their water source was for working the slush box and equipment?

  • @adamblunsdon7784
    @adamblunsdon7784 2 года назад

    Nice video

  • @richardcowley4737
    @richardcowley4737 3 года назад

    if you want to find out how old that fan is, look at the motor plate, it will say, date of manufacture

  • @SydneyRadio2UE
    @SydneyRadio2UE 3 года назад

    Good video, but you should have zoomed in on those equipment data plates at 8:02 and 21:52. The second one could have easily been dusted off, so it could be read. Both of these data plates probably had manufacture dates on them, but now will never know. Yikes!

  • @chrisackerley1842
    @chrisackerley1842 3 года назад

    Well done video! Do you know about Chris Wick, who lived in the ruins of Panamint City in the 1920's and 1930's?

  • @mariomedina791
    @mariomedina791 3 года назад

    20:35 there’s an orb following them👀

  • @FrankBenlin
    @FrankBenlin 3 года назад

    Hah. I just dozed off waiting for buffer and had a great mine dream. Thank you.

  • @PHARRAOH
    @PHARRAOH 3 года назад

    hemlock mine, reminds me of sally on jack skellington

  • @user-pi4fq1bv8n
    @user-pi4fq1bv8n 9 месяцев назад

    Supposably South America has one third of the worlds silver supply. The machinery is from USA very interesting.

  • @edbrick7689
    @edbrick7689 Год назад +1

    @22:00 loading cars with a slasher is not ideal but has been done using a ramp to slush up. It is done sometimes for mucking out a cross cut drift a short distance, or if the vein splits with a dike of waist in the center. In the latter case you stand rail in one drift and use your mucking machine it and slush out the out the other drift without rail.

    • @edbrick7689
      @edbrick7689 Год назад +1

      Slusher, not slasher, autocorrect doesn't like slusher.

    • @forgottenmininghistory
      @forgottenmininghistory  Год назад +1

      I've found slusher setups similar to the ones you mentioned. I'm guessing in this mine they were lacking a mucking machine and decided to try the slusher out.

  • @danvigue2238
    @danvigue2238 3 года назад

    Awesome.........

  • @adirondackErin
    @adirondackErin 3 года назад

    Is it cooler down there?

  • @jont8707
    @jont8707 3 года назад

    Ok did anyone else see that orb at 20.38 after the cart goes by wth was that

  • @carsonhoward2884
    @carsonhoward2884 3 года назад +1

    That tramway is a riblet lift

  • @SluiceBoxDon
    @SluiceBoxDon 3 года назад

    Hell yeah! Indiana Jones that ore cart!

  • @larry785
    @larry785 3 года назад +3

    Please DON'T throw rocks down the deep holes with the ladders. You are destroying the history of the mines.

  • @Robottodd
    @Robottodd 3 года назад

    Well, did you paint him?!

  • @dixiedog1179
    @dixiedog1179 3 года назад

    Around here all the mines have been stripped of any mechanical artifacts.

  • @oldschoolmoto
    @oldschoolmoto 3 года назад

    awesome

  • @paulsto6516
    @paulsto6516 3 года назад +1

    Awesome.