This crap tends to happen with the nicest most personable people you know! People whom you'd think would never EVER screw you over. And sometimes you find out later you weren't the first person they did this to.
Nice guys usually finish LAST. I have been burned by relatives, best friends, employees. I was stupid. Golden rule: If you lend money or equipment, make it a gift. You will lose a "friendship" and the item given or lent in good faith.
@@jimflick7564 I hear ya. Just bought a new dump trailer. Got people who wanna borrow it. No. I need it. I'm not going over to get it back. I've been there done that too many x. Tired of being the door mat.
id get a notorized document or some type of documentation written agreement noterized so that doesnt happen and you can take legal action upon documentation just like a contractor does with jobs, ya know couple hundred bucks isnt that big of deal but when you talking thousands alittlle diffrent story
Unless there is a written contract signed by both and notarized that would be a civil matter and a he said she said problem and nothing would happen, in my state anyways.
A dirtbag raised a dirtbag. Those texts reminded of past dirtbags that owed me money. The bottom line is they have no respect for you because you have more than them. They think they are owed something. I stopped trying to help people out as it never ended well.
Sad man. When the dad got out and pointed fingers at anyone other than his son - you've got your answer. Poor kid was never held accountable his whole life.
@@dennislamers986 I bet that's true too. Never knew how much of an opportunity Stanley afforded him and if it was me, my son would be working for Stanley for free till Stanley deemed it a reasonable amount of work for the debt owed. Id make him earn Stanley's respect again. Maybe the kid would grow a backbone you never know!
Grown az men living life fully Sponsored by mommy and daddy is an epidemic in America! It’s one thing to be involved in your children’s life… it’s another thing when you teach your children they are entitled and never need to bear responsibility for the fights and conflicts they create in society because big daddy will always bail them out!
I be willing to bet that he learned if from his dad . If it was my kid , after I kicked his ass I would do anything to make it right . With my kid to learn the right thing. And do right . I would be EMBARRASSED !
I've been in an almost identical situation except it was a car. Never got paid. Buyer modified the car, ruined it and somehow scrapped it while I still had the title. Didn't show up to court. Never got any compensation. Thanks Austin Cole.
How did the company get away with crushing it without a title? Sounds like you could have gone after the company. Depends on the state I'm sure. Ct you can't get rid of cats without documentation
That is very true. I have a cousin that owns a alternator and starter repair place. He had another cousin of ours that would come in and want stuff done and he tried to help them out and not charge them for minor stuff. Well he started taking advantage of the situation and just asking for too much for free. One day the guy came in wanting a new starter. the shop owner told him he would have to charge him for the starter, but not to worry he was setting him up a charge account. He got the starter and charged around $100 for it on the new charge account. The guy never did pay the charge account. My cousin that owned the shop says it was the best $100 he ever spent, because they haven't been back since they still owe the $100.
I retired from the police department after 27 years. I dealt with people with these situations all the time. Unfortunately when you make an agreement, even if it's verbal, it's a civil situation. Hindsight is always 20/20, but I always suggested to people to get the agreement in writing. That way there's no debate about anything. And those who think they've been threatened because you told them your course of action are idiots!
Still after winning in court. That doesn't mean they will pay you back what is owed or the judgement is on. I'm sued people a few times and each year I have to refresh it with the Courts. In cases like this better to go old school.
I was totally gonna comment that. I never knew how true that saying was until I got older. Helping people out usually always comes back to bit ME in the a**.
Kudos for being so patient, I have had a couple instances of this type of crap from "friends". Tried to sell a bike to a shipmate when I was in the Navy (he REALLY wanted the bike, yeah right) and I got one payment, then nothing, had to "mechanically agitate" him to shake the keys back out of him to repo the bike after a couple months of excuses, then had to fix the damage he did to it (yes, I shook some money out of him for the repairs, too). Everyone on the boat (submarine) knew about it (I made sure) and he never got so much as a beer out of any of us after that. He's lucky he made to through the rest of his deployment with us (this was not his only issue).
i have quite a few relatives on my mothers side with that "I'm entitled" attitude. especially in this generation I've noticed big time that entitled attitude
My dad agreed to back me for a car loan. When we left the bank he said I signed for you but it's up to you to build credit by paying off the loan. I will never sign again. I returned the favor to my son and told him the same thing.
I helped a guy from work out by pressure washed his new (to him) house before last Thanksgiving. I asked for a very small amount of money to cover gas and a little bit of my time (well under what I would regularly charge). I’m still waiting for payment. Every few weeks I hear “I got you next paycheck man”… Ever since he’s been asking me to do more work on his house. He’s just lookin for free labor at this point. He’s not a friend, just a coworker. Yeah I completely agree with what your saying at the end!
Sorry Stanley yes long story My son lived in a small home next to me 345 a month witch is the house payment no taxes no insurance I paid that he gutted it to remodel nothing got done I loaned him 10,000. He wanted to buy a building for a business after a few months He told me I owed him that money for making payments on the house he lived in. Need less to say when I put him out, his words consider me dead. 5 years ago. So that’s how it goes.
Had a similar situation with my stepdaughter and her husband. They borrowed $5000 from me to purchase a mobile home and I never got any payments from it and now the stepdaughter has disowned basically her mother and has nothing to do with the family because I would not forgive the debt. They thought that they shouldn’t have to pay it back. My wife has seen their son one time after it was born. I have never seen the grandson and that was five years ago. It’s just like they fell off the map. It hurts me the way that they have acted, but it kills me because her mother and two sisters had nothing to do with this, but they are paying for it in them not speaking or talking to her.
Sold a K5 blazer to my BIL for 2500. He put 500 down and gave me a laptop he got free through work as some payment which i didnt agree too. 1 1/2 yrs later he gave me the blazer back with a blown motor and other issues, never did get any other money. I wont be selling any family members any vehicles ever again..
Stan I used to have issues like this. I stopped letting people take advantage. I still help people BUT I make the terms well understood. I am super easy to get along with UNTIL you break our agreement. Then I drop the axe on the deal right then and there. I am not talking about a day or two but four/five days and the deal is done. I go and get the item. I will not take late payments after they are over due. I live in a smaller town. After the first time I took something back, and I never said anything, people started paying me on time. This also includes rentals too.
@hustlinghard8081 That's right. I have a 4x8 utility trailer that I pull behind my car, it's invisible when going forward and to back up when empty is very difficult as you only see it when it's going left/right. I had to move a towable cement mixer 😢😭
Yeah. I have a 10ft? tilt trailer that I traded for. Because it tilts, the axle is in the center. That thing is a nightmare to back in anywhere. The axle in the center means that every little turn of the wheel makes that thing pivot immediately. Those big trailers are a lot easier to deal with.
I have a guy I have known for years He buys and sells equipment He lets me make payments I have bought a few and found they were not what I wanted so I sold them but I pay him off the next day. It’s definitely hard to trust people these days
Those are the people who make others that would help people no longer help anyone who needs it. Also people who really need the help and can be trusted will no longer get chances like that.
I loaned my trailer to a neighbor; he used it to return drywall material. Later I had asked if he was done with it and he said yes, so I went to pick it up and noticed that he had not told me he had an accident with the trailer to where it unhooked and it damaged the jack, I ended up having to fix it and decide to never to loan anything out again.
Whenever i borrow somebody money i always say to them "so is it going to cost me this much " " to never see you again" ie; "only cost me $20 to never see Jimmy again"
After being in business almost 20 years I have learned if you lend money don't expect to get it back. Sucks that you cannot trust people but it's reality.
God bless Stan. You handled that better than I would have. I always tell people. If someone owes you $x amount. It cost you that much to get rid of them. Hope everything else is well. Been busy the past 2 years. So I haven’t commented. But still loving the videos
You are a good man. Don’t let less than honorable people change who you are. The more good people out in the world helping each other the better off we all we be. God Bless my friend 🙏
I’ve watched you for a while Stan and mate your big heart is always getting you screwed over by others. It’s okay to be selfish and say no or not take on the little extra work to help out.
Never lend money, only give what you can afford to loose. Especially with family. I lent many thousands of dollars to family back in the day when the money market was paying me 13%. Many years later, things have changed and I’m short. Asked for some of it back. Begrudgingly they paid back all but 3k. Years later they now insist I owe them over 40k. Last I heard they still owed me 3k. That’s interesting, how’s crazy going for you. Last time I talked with them. Can’t associate with crazy, they will attempt to draw you in and destroy you with their stupidity.
You learned a time honored principle.......Neither a borrower nor a lender be. Or if you believe somebody is trustworthy, then make the loan, but only if it is fully collateralized. Meaning they have given over complete control to you of something that if they default, you are covered by the collateral. No collateral to offer.......no loan.
Man, I’m so sorry to hear that. Don’t let this stop you for being a good man. There’s still good people out there. I would just really beg people a little more now and I don’t lend out any money these days.
That seems to happen alot more than guys care to admit. Even if you do have a good and fair working environment. Hope you have a great holiday weekend! Keep up the good work
I'm sorry to hear this story, you have always seem good and agree with you about money! Sad to hear you tried helping someone and as you said "got screwed over". I know the feeling, cause I was always taught to help people and multiple times got screwed over helping when we were the ones going out of our way to help but was never recuperated back. But, it's my nature to help and even though got screwed many times I still try to help but have gotten a little better at who I decide to help. DO your best and don't ever change and keep up the great work Stan and keep the videos coming.
the old joke around here is if you want to get ride of a friend just loan him some money .that is when you find out what he is made of ' great video thanks
Stan, you're such an honorable person. I'm so sorry. This shows the quality of his character. Hopefully he will change but my gut feeling is that he has a drug problem.
Damn dude , you’re n awesome person for doing what you did and gave this guy a chance to build a business. The worst part is now nobody else could get that opportunity bc of this. Once you’ve been burned usually the trust in all humans are gone. There should be a chain of people helping people and everyone is blessed. At least you got $5k . God knows you had good intentions and you will be blessed in one way or another--good luck
The sad part is the kid had a huge opportunity to be an honest man,one thing in life never ever forget the ppl that help u or never bite the hand that feeds you
I "sold" a relative my BMW when I was young and dumb - I say "sold" because there's supposed to be an exchange of cash for goods). He (older than me) ended up crashing it on University, and for some reason decided that he no longer needed to pay back the owed amount. The best part: when my wife was pregnant with our first child, this relative called me selfish for not letting him steal from my family. That was literally the last time he got money from me. When he calls, all I can offer is advice and prayers. You handled that as well as possible. People with no boundaries hate it when you don't allow yours to be violated. And his dad should have dragged him there by the ears instead of yelling at you!
Hey Stan. Im new to watching your videos. I have to say you are showing incredible good character by trying to help out that kid with "loaning" the mowers. Unfortunately, I've had very similar experience with helping others in them getting started in business by giving them equipment, even with a written contract, and having them fail to make payments. Even had one total a piece, the insurance wrote the $65k check to the guy, and he cashed it and ran. Even though the equipment was still in our name. I pursued with a lawyer but he refused to help saying the banks lawyers were too big and would drag it out for years and lawyers fees would be astronomical. Unfortunately, there are people who are takers, and there are givers. You and I would get along. Sorry for your loss. It sucks to see that happen to good people. Lesson learned? A very expensive lesson.
An old friend of mine who is now dead told me once that he had lent some money to an extended family member, wasn't a lot of money but back in the 70's but $40 was a bit. When the same person asked again, some months later, if he could borrow some money my friend said sure, when he is paid back what he already lent him. Sometimes wisdom comes at a price which will never be repeated.
verbal contracts are fine , its just a pain to chase up. Dont ever give credit to people , if they cant afford it they dont deserve your charity and trust
Hey Stan , we need a short live where you answer some questions about property ownership, landscaping etc. Would be sweet to see your point of view on things!
He's lucky you didn't take him to small claims court over it and sue for the back payments and mower cost. You never sell anything if it's on loan and payments are being made like this. Can't afford it, be like hey, I have to return them.
Unfortunately there are many people that try to one up everyone they can. I borrow money from only the bank and I lend money to no one. If family needs it I give it if I can but never lend it. Money changes relationships. I think it's because they get jealous that you have the money to give them and if you can give them things, then you can afford not to get it back from them. It sure does make the world a bad place when you get burned for trying to help people out. Sorry this happened to you.
Been there myself. Sold a car to a friend the same way, never saw a cent and got a call over a year later that it was in an impound lot still in my name. They wanted more than it was worth. Wrote it off.
This is easy ... compile your evidence... go to small claims court... they will bump it up to the next court cause of the amount of money ..... sue the lil prick
@@bstevermer9293this. Our house was robbed and they caught the thief. We took them to court for the cost of the stolen jewelry. They were told to pay by the court. They never did. Street justice is better.
Going luck with that - even if you win you will chase the money for ever. Best to just sit down with the accountant and write it off as as outstanding / uncollected debt.
Stuff like this breaks my heart. I would kill for someone to give me a break like that. I always take better care of other peoples stuff they loan me than I do my own, I always pay back a debt and never would take advantage of someone's kindness. Yet, I have never had any of that. No one has given me a leg up. No one has given me a break. I can only assume because of guys like this one that spoil it for the rest of us. I'm sorry this happened to you Stan.
Sorry that happened to you Stan, they say money just amplifies people so if your a bad person when you don't have much money it will only make you worse, if your a generous person you will be even more generous when you have more money
The kid told his dad a different story for sure. My father taught me to never lend money to friends you expect or need back. If you look at it as a gift and get it back your happy. Go nto it that way or don’t do it. He also said that if you are prosperous and someone comes to you for a hand out and you can do it that’s ok but make a deal with that person that if you help them they never again talk about money/ask ever again. Then you can walk away feeling good and you are set up if they come back.
Reminds me of when i was a kid my dad had a landscape company he was doing a landscape for the guy who owned the land my dad leased for his nursery/yard/house. The guy canceled the sprinkler portion of the job. My dad went by to drop off some material on a saturday for the rest of the project and caught his main guy doing the sprinkler job with my dads tools and parts.
I had the same thing happen to me with one of my mowers and I gave the guy accounts to make the payments. Same ordeal took me months to get my mower back and it was beat up same as yours. Good luck brother. Trying to give someone a hand up sometimes doesn't pay off just causes heartache on you.
Had similar things happen a few times. Even though it made me more hesitant, I have loaned folks money or tools since and the good definitely outweighs the bad. I don’t loan anything that I can’t afford to lose.
One thing you need to do have have the papers saying that he was going to make monthly payments to you you never made them and you take that to your the police station repossess it and tell him he sold the other one he had no authority to sell enable find it and whoever has that property has to pay you for the remaining balance or you can take the machine back I work with banks and repossession companies
I hope this kid finds his way. Stan you are a good guy for helping him, don't let things like this ruin your good nature! Also next time hide an Airtag in the mowers, it will make them much easier to locate
Learned my lesson with $20 as teenager. Getting ripped for that amount didn’t hurt but made me question everyone. I let no one borrow money and only a few people would be able to borrow things. The world is full of liars and thieves. Trust no one, question everything.
Yep, I've been in that exact situation several times, although not as much money was involved. I swear, every single time I've tried to "help somebody out" they have screwed me, every single time. It's sad but it's made me not wanting to help people. On the rare occasion where I do now help somebody, I just consider whatever I help them with as gone. In other words, if we are talking about money I will not loan money under any circumstances, but I will just give them money if I feel the need to help.
I don't associate with people that I don't trust. I'm 52 and there's about a half a dozen people that I'll deal with on a regular basis. However, I start out giving everybody the benefit of the doubt. The level of trust will start out small and build over time. I only have one real friend that I would trust as much as my wife. A friend is someone that you can show up at their door at 2:00 a.m. with a body in your trunk... They don't say a word, they just put on their shoes and go get a shovel.
An expensive stressful lesson in getting things in writing so you have recourse. Also amazing how someone can go from OK to scumbag and 'become the victim'.
i was told once never borrow anyone money. if you are trying to help someone out gift it to them. that way there will be no hard feelings. if you cant afford to gift it to them dont borrow them money.
It’s just the same as loaning an employee money. As an employer, it didn’t take me long to learn that if I loan money to an employee, I might as well just consider it as money thrown away.
Yep, happened to me. Made first payment then nothing but excuses not to pay me. Car problems got laid off. Always an excuse. I felt sorry for the guy. End up in small claims court. I will never do it again. Try to help somebody and get the kielbasa instead.
I was going into this video think "oh it's probably some clickbait and he was barely screwed at all". WOW was I wrong. Sometimes I can't believe what some people do and how they can live with themselves. Really sucks when you try to help people out and they f**k you over in return.
Truth of the matter is sometimes it’s greed and it’s entitlement and if you’ve never had to work for things and you’ve been anything your entire life then you expect it. As such coming from a middle-class family, and my dad was a state employee for the state of Connecticut, I can remember Christmas is where he works for union and they furloughed before Christmas so I know those days well being a nurse and taking care of people now is my greatest joy. Money doesn’t drive me. You can’t take it with you.
minnisota nice, its happened to me ,nice guys finish last. i helped a guy from forest lake that wanted a baby boy. well his wife had twin girls so he wouldnt give me the f 150 i was promised me .she was a dead carp in bed ,so i only did her for a yr. stan you cant trust anyone,
Personal relationships are a funny thing. Even someone who you trust and have lent money to in the past who have paid you back can flip on you and screw you over.
Why protect him? People like this need to put this on blast.
Screw Henry and his old man!!
Henry Simar
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@@fuzion430journey3 It’s “Henry Simar”
lol not much to "blast" he has 500 subs
1. Never give credit unless you want to become a bank
2. Never sell machinery to someone you know and want to remain on good terms with.
This crap tends to happen with the nicest most personable people you know! People whom you'd think would never EVER screw you over. And sometimes you find out later you weren't the first person they did this to.
2. Don't risk more than you are willing to part with. That includes money, mowers and friendships.
Nice guys usually finish LAST. I have been burned by relatives, best friends, employees. I was stupid. Golden rule: If you lend money or equipment, make it a gift. You will lose a "friendship" and the item given or lent in good faith.
@@jimflick7564 I hear ya. Just bought a new dump trailer. Got people who wanna borrow it. No. I need it. I'm not going over to get it back. I've been there done that too many x. Tired of being the door mat.
id get a notorized document or some type of documentation written agreement noterized so that doesnt happen and you can take legal action upon documentation just like a contractor does with jobs, ya know couple hundred bucks isnt that big of deal but when you talking thousands alittlle diffrent story
You should have asked Whistlin Diesel to get it back for you
He might get it back, but it'd be very broken!
I would also File a police report on the second STOLEN lawnmower.
Yep
Breach of contract yes Stolen no.
Unless there is a written contract signed by both and notarized that would be a civil matter and a he said she said problem and nothing would happen, in my state anyways.
@@hustlinghard8081 MN no different than borrowing someone a car and not returned breach of contract is not stolen. The Monkey is in MN.
A dirtbag raised a dirtbag. Those texts reminded of past dirtbags that owed me money. The bottom line is they have no respect for you because you have more than them. They think they are owed something. I stopped trying to help people out as it never ended well.
Sad man. When the dad got out and pointed fingers at anyone other than his son - you've got your answer. Poor kid was never held accountable his whole life.
Bet his dad didn't know the whole story.
@@dennislamers986 I bet that's true too. Never knew how much of an opportunity Stanley afforded him and if it was me, my son would be working for Stanley for free till Stanley deemed it a reasonable amount of work for the debt owed. Id make him earn Stanley's respect again. Maybe the kid would grow a backbone you never know!
Grown az men living life fully Sponsored by mommy and daddy is an epidemic in America! It’s one thing to be involved in your children’s life… it’s another thing when you teach your children they are entitled and never need to bear responsibility for the fights and conflicts they create in society because big daddy will always bail them out!
I be willing to bet that he learned if from his dad . If it was my kid , after I kicked his ass I would do anything to make it right . With my kid to learn the right thing. And do right . I would be EMBARRASSED !
Like Trump!
What an asshole, you trusted him & tried to help him out now you're screwed
I've been in an almost identical situation except it was a car. Never got paid. Buyer modified the car, ruined it and somehow scrapped it while I still had the title. Didn't show up to court. Never got any compensation. Thanks Austin Cole.
How did the company get away with crushing it without a title? Sounds like you could have gone after the company. Depends on the state I'm sure. Ct you can't get rid of cats without documentation
If I don’t want too see the person ever again I’ll lend them 50$
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Right. And if they think you're a sucker, they'll be back for more!
That is very true. I have a cousin that owns a alternator and starter repair place. He had another cousin of ours that would come in and want stuff done and he tried to help them out and not charge them for minor stuff. Well he started taking advantage of the situation and just asking for too much for free.
One day the guy came in wanting a new starter. the shop owner told him he would have to charge him for the starter, but not to worry he was setting him up a charge account. He got the starter and charged around $100 for it on the new charge account. The guy never did pay the charge account. My cousin that owned the shop says it was the best $100 he ever spent, because they haven't been back since they still owe the $100.
@@m16ty It would have cost him $10K or more for a hitman but he got rid of him for only $100 and no legal troubles. Genius!
If all they want is $50 or $100, they will pay me back
Sorry that happened to you man. All I can say is don't let bad people change who you are. You're a good dude who did a good thing.
I retired from the police department after 27 years. I dealt with people with these situations all the time. Unfortunately when you make an agreement, even if it's verbal, it's a civil situation. Hindsight is always 20/20, but I always suggested to people to get the agreement in writing. That way there's no debate about anything. And those who think they've been threatened because you told them your course of action are idiots!
Still after winning in court. That doesn't mean they will pay you back what is owed or the judgement is on. I'm sued people a few times and each year I have to refresh it with the Courts. In cases like this better to go old school.
Until it goes to court & they say the paper is worthless. Be there.
HEY LEO... LIKE RELIEVINGS OF #2, THE PAPER WORK IS NECESSARY IF YOU DON'T HAVE A POLICE UNION
Want to end a friendship? Loan them some money!
That's very true.
So sorry, as they say "No good deed goes un punished".
I was totally gonna comment that. I never knew how true that saying was until I got older. Helping people out usually always comes back to bit ME in the a**.
Watching this video I thought the same thing!! So very true!!
Kudos for being so patient, I have had a couple instances of this type of crap from "friends".
Tried to sell a bike to a shipmate when I was in the Navy (he REALLY wanted the bike, yeah right) and I got one payment, then nothing, had to "mechanically agitate" him to shake the keys back out of him to repo the bike after a couple months of excuses, then had to fix the damage he did to it (yes, I shook some money out of him for the repairs, too). Everyone on the boat (submarine) knew about it (I made sure) and he never got so much as a beer out of any of us after that. He's lucky he made to through the rest of his deployment with us (this was not his only issue).
Honor, Courage, Commitment my ass, the dude is a disgrace to the uniform.
I've had people I considered good friends screw me like that. Honestly, the betrayal of the friendship hurt worse than the monetary loss.
"Mechanically agitate" you threw him in a washing machine or paint shaker? 😂
VIOLINS ARE THE JUSTICE THAT COMES AROUND WITH A PERCUSSION RYTHE-HEM SESSION.
Narcissism runs deep in that family, you are definitely correct about loaning money, there's two attitudes appreciation or entitlement.
i have quite a few relatives on my mothers side with that "I'm entitled" attitude. especially in this generation I've noticed big time that entitled attitude
I've said it all my life, People always show their true colors when it comes to money...
Also when you tell them no.
This is the reason I am SO hesitant to stick my neck out to help a person and it's sad because that isn't my personality at all
My dad agreed to back me for a car loan. When we left the bank he said I signed for you but it's up to you to build credit by paying off the loan. I will never sign again. I returned the favor to my son and told him the same thing.
I helped a guy from work out by pressure washed his new (to him) house before last Thanksgiving. I asked for a very small amount of money to cover gas and a little bit of my time (well under what I would regularly charge). I’m still waiting for payment. Every few weeks I hear “I got you next paycheck man”… Ever since he’s been asking me to do more work on his house. He’s just lookin for free labor at this point. He’s not a friend, just a coworker. Yeah I completely agree with what your saying at the end!
Sorry Stanley yes long story My son lived in a small home next to me 345 a month witch is the house payment no taxes no insurance I paid that he gutted it to remodel nothing got done I loaned him 10,000. He wanted to buy a building for a business after a few months He told me I owed him that money for making payments on the house he lived in. Need less to say when I put him out, his words consider me dead. 5 years ago. So that’s how it goes.
Had a similar situation with my stepdaughter and her husband. They borrowed $5000 from me to purchase a mobile home and I never got any payments from it and now the stepdaughter has disowned basically her mother and has nothing to do with the family because I would not forgive the debt. They thought that they shouldn’t have to pay it back. My wife has seen their son one time after it was born. I have never seen the grandson and that was five years ago. It’s just like they fell off the map. It hurts me the way that they have acted, but it kills me because her mother and two sisters had nothing to do with this, but they are paying for it in them not speaking or talking to her.
Never loan money to family or friends if you expect to be payed back. It has to be an exceptible loss if you do.
you handled the situation very well unfortunately there are people with no sense of honour and yes you are right money does do funny things to people
Sold a K5 blazer to my BIL for 2500. He put 500 down and gave me a laptop he got free through work as some payment which i didnt agree too. 1 1/2 yrs later he gave me the blazer back with a blown motor and other issues, never did get any other money. I wont be selling any family members any vehicles ever again..
Stan I used to have issues like this. I stopped letting people take advantage. I still help people BUT I make the terms well understood. I am super easy to get along with UNTIL you break our agreement. Then I drop the axe on the deal right then and there. I am not talking about a day or two but four/five days and the deal is done. I go and get the item. I will not take late payments after they are over due. I live in a smaller town. After the first time I took something back, and I never said anything, people started paying me on time. This also includes rentals too.
He’s really good at backing up a trailer!
So much easier backing a big trailer like that. Now if he backed a little 4x8 trailer that well then I'd be bowing my knee to the ol' great one.
@hustlinghard8081 That's right. I have a 4x8 utility trailer that I pull behind my car, it's invisible when going forward and to back up when empty is very difficult as you only see it when it's going left/right. I had to move a towable cement mixer 😢😭
Yeah. I have a 10ft? tilt trailer that I traded for.
Because it tilts, the axle is in the center.
That thing is a nightmare to back in anywhere.
The axle in the center means that every little turn of the wheel makes that thing pivot immediately.
Those big trailers are a lot easier to deal with.
I have a guy I have known for years
He buys and sells equipment
He lets me make payments
I have bought a few and found they were not what I wanted so I sold them but I pay him off the next day. It’s definitely hard to trust people these days
Those are the people who make others that would help people no longer help anyone who needs it. Also people who really need the help and can be trusted will no longer get chances like that.
I loaned my trailer to a neighbor; he used it to return drywall material. Later I had asked if he was done with it and he said yes, so I went to pick it up and noticed that he had not told me he had an accident with the trailer to where it unhooked and it damaged the jack, I ended up having to fix it and decide to never to loan anything out again.
Never play banker for anyone.
Never lend anything unless you want it damaged or stolen.
The police can not do anything because it's a civil matter.
People love loaning me things as they come back in better shape than it left in..
@@jimdomoradzki3309 WHAT CALLING THE PO' LICE FOR CIVIL ASSET FORFETURES?
@@georgedunkelberg5004 Civil asset forfeiture has nothing to do with
a loan agreement between 2 people.
Whenever i borrow somebody money i always say to them "so is it going to cost me this much " " to never see you again" ie; "only cost me $20 to never see Jimmy again"
WOW! MAY I BORROW THAT STATEMENT? I TRY TO LIVE IN A PAY IT FORWARD LIFE STYLE. MAKE 'EM SMILE, AND TAKE ZERO PAY, THEN TELL THEM TO "PAY IT FORWARD."
After being in business almost 20 years I have learned if you lend money don't expect to get it back.
Sucks that you cannot trust people but it's reality.
God bless Stan. You handled that better than I would have. I always tell people. If someone owes you $x amount. It cost you that much to get rid of them. Hope everything else is well. Been busy the past 2 years. So I haven’t commented. But still loving the videos
You are a good man. Don’t let less than honorable people change who you are. The more good people out in the world helping each other the better off we all we be. God Bless my friend 🙏
I’ve watched you for a while Stan and mate your big heart is always getting you screwed over by others. It’s okay to be selfish and say no or not take on the little extra work to help out.
We have been burned so many times by giving young builders and young business guys A chance to prove themselves and they've always burned us.
Never lend money, only give what you can afford to loose. Especially with family. I lent many thousands of dollars to family back in the day when the money market was paying me 13%. Many years later, things have changed and I’m short. Asked for some of it back. Begrudgingly they paid back all but 3k. Years later they now insist I owe them over 40k. Last I heard they still owed me 3k. That’s interesting, how’s crazy going for you. Last time I talked with them. Can’t associate with crazy, they will attempt to draw you in and destroy you with their stupidity.
You’re absolutely right. Money does something to some people.
100% true. Peoples character can totally be seen by money.
When money is involved you will know the truth about character.
Happens to all of us at some point Stan - ya still gotta help others when you can.
You learned a time honored principle.......Neither a borrower nor a lender be. Or if you believe somebody is trustworthy, then make the loan, but only if it is fully collateralized. Meaning they have given over complete control to you of something that if they default, you are covered by the collateral. No collateral to offer.......no loan.
In my mid 60s now and I have always been one to help people and learned the hard way.
Man, I’m so sorry to hear that. Don’t let this stop you for being a good man. There’s still good people out there. I would just really beg people a little more now and I don’t lend out any money these days.
As they say " The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree"
That seems to happen alot more than guys care to admit. Even if you do have a good and fair working environment. Hope you have a great holiday weekend! Keep up the good work
Justice can come in many ways and in unexpected ways. Pretty insightful conclusion about people and money
I'm sorry to hear this story, you have always seem good and agree with you about money! Sad to hear you tried helping someone and as you said "got screwed over". I know the feeling, cause I was always taught to help people and multiple times got screwed over helping when we were the ones going out of our way to help but was never recuperated back. But, it's my nature to help and even though got screwed many times I still try to help but have gotten a little better at who I decide to help. DO your best and don't ever change and keep up the great work Stan and keep the videos coming.
Nice guys always find a way to finish last, it’s a shame that a man’s word doesn’t mean anything anymore. You have a great heart Stan.
Wow thats the cringeiest saying ever 🤣🤣🤣
the old joke around here is if you want to get ride of a friend just loan him some money .that is when you find out what he is made of '
great video thanks
Stan, you're such an honorable person. I'm so sorry.
This shows the quality of his character. Hopefully he will change but my gut feeling is that he has a drug problem.
Damn dude , you’re n awesome person for doing what you did and gave this guy a chance to build a business. The worst part is now nobody else could get that opportunity bc of this. Once you’ve been burned usually the trust in all humans are gone. There should be a chain of people helping people and everyone is blessed. At least you got $5k . God knows you had good intentions and you will be blessed in one way or another--good luck
The sad part is the kid had a huge opportunity to be an honest man,one thing in life never ever forget the ppl that help u or never bite the hand that feeds you
I "sold" a relative my BMW when I was young and dumb - I say "sold" because there's supposed to be an exchange of cash for goods). He (older than me) ended up crashing it on University, and for some reason decided that he no longer needed to pay back the owed amount.
The best part: when my wife was pregnant with our first child, this relative called me selfish for not letting him steal from my family. That was literally the last time he got money from me. When he calls, all I can offer is advice and prayers.
You handled that as well as possible. People with no boundaries hate it when you don't allow yours to be violated. And his dad should have dragged him there by the ears instead of yelling at you!
if it wasnt for relatives i would not have any enemies dont make deals with them.
Hey Stan. Im new to watching your videos. I have to say you are showing incredible good character by trying to help out that kid with "loaning" the mowers. Unfortunately, I've had very similar experience with helping others in them getting started in business by giving them equipment, even with a written contract, and having them fail to make payments. Even had one total a piece, the insurance wrote the $65k check to the guy, and he cashed it and ran. Even though the equipment was still in our name. I pursued with a lawyer but he refused to help saying the banks lawyers were too big and would drag it out for years and lawyers fees would be astronomical.
Unfortunately, there are people who are takers, and there are givers. You and I would get along. Sorry for your loss. It sucks to see that happen to good people. Lesson learned? A very expensive lesson.
An old friend of mine who is now dead told me once that he had lent some money to an extended family member, wasn't a lot of money but back in the 70's but $40 was a bit. When the same person asked again, some months later, if he could borrow some money my friend said sure, when he is paid back what he already lent him.
Sometimes wisdom comes at a price which will never be repeated.
Hope you had a contract.
verbal contracts are fine , its just a pain to chase up. Dont ever give credit to people , if they cant afford it they dont deserve your charity and trust
No good deed goes unpunished.
Stanley, you nailed it! Money screws up the best of people.
Hey Stan , we need a short live where you answer some questions about property ownership, landscaping etc. Would be sweet to see your point of view on things!
He's lucky you didn't take him to small claims court over it and sue for the back payments and mower cost. You never sell anything if it's on loan and payments are being made like this. Can't afford it, be like hey, I have to return them.
I'm sure there was no contract signed.
@@crosswalklarry true
Unfortunately there are many people that try to one up everyone they can. I borrow money from only the bank and I lend money to no one. If family needs it I give it if I can but never lend it. Money changes relationships. I think it's because they get jealous that you have the money to give them and if you can give them things, then you can afford not to get it back from them. It sure does make the world a bad place when you get burned for trying to help people out. Sorry this happened to you.
My father always told me don't lend to folks unless you are ok with never seeing that money again. Lesson learned.
Been there myself. Sold a car to a friend the same way, never saw a cent and got a call over a year later that it was in an impound lot still in my name. They wanted more than it was worth. Wrote it off.
This is easy ... compile your evidence... go to small claims court... they will bump it up to the next court cause of the amount of money ..... sue the lil prick
You have never won a judgment have you? It’s a worthless judgment not payment .
Then you loose even more time and money // how does the saying go? Yo can't get blood from a turnip..
@@bstevermer9293this. Our house was robbed and they caught the thief. We took them to court for the cost of the stolen jewelry. They were told to pay by the court. They never did.
Street justice is better.
Going luck with that - even if you win you will chase the money for ever. Best to just sit down with the accountant and write it off as as outstanding / uncollected debt.
Stuff like this breaks my heart. I would kill for someone to give me a break like that. I always take better care of other peoples stuff they loan me than I do my own, I always pay back a debt and never would take advantage of someone's kindness. Yet, I have never had any of that. No one has given me a leg up. No one has given me a break. I can only assume because of guys like this one that spoil it for the rest of us. I'm sorry this happened to you Stan.
Sorry that happened to you Stan, they say money just amplifies people so if your a bad person when you don't have much money it will only make you worse, if your a generous person you will be even more generous when you have more money
The kid told his dad a different story for sure. My father taught me to never lend money to friends you expect or need back. If you look at it as a gift and get it back your happy. Go nto it that way or don’t do it. He also said that if you are prosperous and someone comes to you for a hand out and you can do it that’s ok but make a deal with that person that if you help them they never again talk about money/ask ever again. Then you can walk away feeling good and you are set up if they come back.
Reminds me of when i was a kid my dad had a landscape company he was doing a landscape for the guy who owned the land my dad leased for his nursery/yard/house. The guy canceled the sprinkler portion of the job. My dad went by to drop off some material on a saturday for the rest of the project and caught his main guy doing the sprinkler job with my dads tools and parts.
big kick in the nuts
great point Stan. Avoid at all costs. Really sux when you want to do good for someone and then it turns around and bites you.
You are correct about money. In some cases people just don't pay back what they owe and it does tell about a person's character.
the kid threw alot of parties all summer.
Son Learned From His Dad !!! That DAD SUCKS BIG TIME !!!!!!!!
How do you guys know about his dad? His channel doesnt show much.
Dad chose to only hear Jr's side of the story..
I'm from Texas and we handle things a lot faster and with more meaning...
I didn't hear your accent***gun shots*** oh there it is.
we do things the same way in Tennessee.
I'm also from Texas, and I can attest to this fact. This really is true.
Never do business with family and friends…….!!!!!!!
I grew up hearing “ never sell anything or loan anything to family, friends or neighbors”
Dad sounds like an enabler.
I had the same thing happen to me with one of my mowers and I gave the guy accounts to make the payments. Same ordeal took me months to get my mower back and it was beat up same as yours. Good luck brother. Trying to give someone a hand up sometimes doesn't pay off just causes heartache on you.
The love of money is the root of all evil.
Its the love of Money
Their was theft prior to money being printed..
You're correct money pours out their true colors
Had similar things happen a few times. Even though it made me more hesitant, I have loaned folks money or tools since and the good definitely outweighs the bad. I don’t loan anything that I can’t afford to lose.
One thing you need to do have have the papers saying that he was going to make monthly payments to you you never made them and you take that to your the police station repossess it and tell him he sold the other one he had no authority to sell enable find it and whoever has that property has to pay you for the remaining balance or you can take the machine back I work with banks and repossession companies
I hope this kid finds his way. Stan you are a good guy for helping him, don't let things like this ruin your good nature! Also next time hide an Airtag in the mowers, it will make them much easier to locate
Good guys finish last when they have to bank roll the idiots of the world..
He’s not a kid. He’s a man. He’s a scammer.
Learned my lesson with $20 as teenager. Getting ripped for that amount didn’t hurt but made me question everyone. I let no one borrow money and only a few people would be able to borrow things. The world is full of liars and thieves. Trust no one, question everything.
Yep, I've been in that exact situation several times, although not as much money was involved.
I swear, every single time I've tried to "help somebody out" they have screwed me, every single time. It's sad but it's made me not wanting to help people. On the rare occasion where I do now help somebody, I just consider whatever I help them with as gone. In other words, if we are talking about money I will not loan money under any circumstances, but I will just give them money if I feel the need to help.
Call him out by name
Channel name is Henry Simar
Trust no one!
I don't associate with people that I don't trust. I'm 52 and there's about a half a dozen people that I'll deal with on a regular basis.
However, I start out giving everybody the benefit of the doubt. The level of trust will start out small and build over time.
I only have one real friend that I would trust as much as my wife. A friend is someone that you can show up at their door at 2:00 a.m. with a body in your trunk... They don't say a word, they just put on their shoes and go get a shovel.
World is filled with dishonest people.
That dude scammed you
That’s ashamed what the kid to you but don’t let it change who you are. I’ve been screwed over a lot for being a nice guy.
An expensive stressful lesson in getting things in writing so you have recourse. Also amazing how someone can go from OK to scumbag and 'become the victim'.
I haven't caught a video in a while, what a wild new content level from building walls and stress testing ego products.
i was told once never borrow anyone money. if you are trying to help someone out gift it to them. that way there will be no hard feelings. if you cant afford to gift it to them dont borrow them money.
You lend money, you don't borrow someone a loan.
@@bobmahnamahknobyeah … the dude made a good point but he talks like Yoda.
@@natej6671 the point he makes, valid it is 🤣
henry simar
He even posted a video of him buying the 2 mowers from Stan
I thi k you are spot on. My ex tenants ripped me off for 1k rent because somehow they think they deserve it.
It’s just the same as loaning an employee money. As an employer, it didn’t take me long to learn that if I loan money to an employee, I might as well just consider it as money thrown away.
Yep, happened to me. Made first payment then nothing but excuses not to pay me. Car problems got laid off. Always an excuse. I felt sorry for the guy. End up in small claims court. I will never do it again. Try to help somebody and get the kielbasa instead.
The kielbasa!🤣
They always tell their sob story while drinking a beer and smoking a cig..
I was going into this video think "oh it's probably some clickbait and he was barely screwed at all". WOW was I wrong. Sometimes I can't believe what some people do and how they can live with themselves. Really sucks when you try to help people out and they f**k you over in return.
Truth of the matter is sometimes it’s greed and it’s entitlement and if you’ve never had to work for things and you’ve been anything your entire life then you expect it. As such coming from a middle-class family, and my dad was a state employee for the state of Connecticut, I can remember Christmas is where he works for union and they furloughed before Christmas so I know those days well being a nurse and taking care of people now is my greatest joy. Money doesn’t drive me. You can’t take it with you.
Sounds like dad raised a sneak thief
He’s mowing a few acres of horsehit
On high
entitled F'rs of the new normal
Had outrageous parties but no money to pay his loan off..
That's how you back up a trailer
minnisota nice, its happened to me ,nice guys finish last. i helped a guy from forest lake that wanted a baby boy. well his wife had twin girls so he wouldnt give me the f 150 i was promised me .she was a dead carp in bed ,so i only did her for a yr. stan you cant trust anyone,
Cool story bro.
Personal relationships are a funny thing. Even someone who you trust and have lent money to in the past who have paid you back can flip on you and screw you over.