Wouldn’t it be hard to drive without rear window? And would cameras and screens be able to replace the rear window? Why make a simple design complicated?
I love the design, but how in the world are they going to convince people this is worth 10k more than a Model Y? And that's for the RWD base model. I just don't get it. I was getting ready to put a deposit for this but at that price? FORGET IT.
@@derringera I completely agree with you. But the reality is, none of the OEMs want to compete with them. And Tesla just missed their earnings. I’m expecting another price drop.
@@voltaelektrifiera3556 I suppose that makes sense but then It's drastically father from competing with the target group then even my initial comment feared.
Just from the photos, there is a distinct line around where the window would be. I would guess the window glass is actually there and it's just tinted with colored window tint, color-matched to the exterior paint color.
Actully, this car does not have a unique identity. Polestars are hot Volvos and I like that they show their Volvo connection. But this car, the Poelstar 4, is based on the Zeekr001, and it is really obvious that it is. This is the first Polestar that isn't based on a Volvo. The dash, steering wheel, seats, while covered in Polestar material, are the same seats as the Zeekr001. The frameless doors are like the Zeekr and so much. The greenhouse (side window area) is like the Zeekr. The Polestar 3 is a much different car that obviously sharing with the Volvo EX90. The Polestar 5 and 6 also slook like they're sharing with Volvo. Polestar has put Precept styling elements onto a Zeekr body. The rear window being taken away was previewed in the Precept, so no surprise here. I find this car sedan shape and attractive, but am disappointed that it doesn't have a more Polestar appearance and doesn't use Volvo elements primarily. btw, the seat belt color and brake calipers are Swedish gold, not mustard, and they first appeared on Polestar Volvos, the s60 and XC60 Polestar. The build quality in China is not an issue. tbh, the build quality of Volvo s60s in the USA is more of an issue than Volvos or Polestars built in China. You may have tested one that was beat up by the press or something but I've inspected a number of Polestar 2s and the build quality is well above average with the cars feeling Volvo solid over the road. My hope is the US built Polestars and Volvos match the quality of the ones made in China.
I feel like the new electric vehicles being built int SC will be to the same standard as Chinese built models. I dont think the reliability of the s60 really tells the story of the factories potential, it’s just that the power train in general was designed to have issues, wether that be intentional or not.
Agreed. The issue isn’t the build quality. It’s the potentially baked in spyware by CCP into the infotainment & navigation system. Huawei is banned for a good reason
i think it reduces costs, maybe emissions and raw resoruces, but it does lower weight and have less weight near top , for effeincy , being less crash unsafe to others, less road wear, more momentum around turns
I’m suspecting the more reasonable price bc I don’t think Volvo will have a model that will directly compete with this whereas the EX90 and the 3 will more or less compete head on
Wow, pretty soon the info displays are going to be bigger than movie theater's screen. Don't know we need them as large as they are getting. It is a pretty car, but, sometimes I wish I could still get a new 240 wagon or P1800.
A Chinese company, Geely Holding, owns Volvo. But Polestars aren't designed or engineered in China. They're a small-Swedish based company closely associated with Volvo who manages, designs, cars in Sweden. In the future, some segments in Shanghai will have some development work in some Volvos but mainly, the work is done in Sweden. Geely has made Volvo more profitable and has expanded the Swedish operation team. Will some Polestars use the SEA platform from Geely. Yes. But understand, their platform developer is Swedish. His name is Kent Bovelian. And Geely has a joint company set up in Sweden called CEVT that designs Zeekr and Lynk and Co. cars and they use a lot of Volvo tech while design their own cars.
@@Neojhun not true. Many buyers are still unaware that Volvos potentially have CCP endorsed spyware baked into its infotainment & navigation system, complements of Huawei
Geely is the least CCP compromised of the Chinese owned Automakers. You would be worse off with a BMW (iX3 globally) or VAG product built in China. Because their contractors are straight up CCP managed.
I may actually leave Lexus for this, it's such a sleek fastback design and it will drive like a sedan with its low center of gravity. Also in regards to where it will be built, so far most articles I have read have stated that the P3 and 4 are going to begin production in South Carolina alongside other Volvos next year.
WTF This is just Polstars lower end SUV. This is very much NOT Vaporware, this is just sadly what the market wants and what Automakers can supply. These will very much be Daily Driver Appliances for the lay person.
I think the Polestar 5 sedan looks nicer. I would not object to buying a car made in China as long as parts and service are available and affordable here in the U.S. My friends who are long-time Volvo owners tell me they love their cars, but parts are very expensive compared to other moderately priced cars. That gold exterior color looks like a good match for North Florida pollen. I rely mostly on my side mirrors and back up camera because of the big headrests in my Nissan LEAF, but I am not sure I would like not having a rear window at all.
Lower top speeds is mainly due to heat. You need a very good thermal system to manage that. Which costs more to manufacture. And most people don't go that fast anyways so no real need for the added cost
I was in one in Las Vegas as an Uber, and I was not impressed. Very loud inside, and the interior was very spartan with cheap fabrics everywhere. Looks like a nightmare if you had children
It’s insane they’re keeping the EV tax credit to domestic manufacturers! That’s anti-competition and very anti-free market. If Americans could build cars as well as the Asians maybe I would buy one! But they have never been good and never will be unfortunately
Great, no longer risk being blinded by these pointing-to-the-sky Model Y headlights at night.
Love the 3 and the 4 very unique designs
Will it pass US safety inspections without a rear window??
How often you think they get pulled over for having a “blacked out back windshield”
Can you do the 2024 Cross Trek.
I hope I can review it soon
Thanks Kirk .
Excellent
Looks super sharp. Saw a video of it at the Shanghai auto show where they opened the rear hatch - CAVERNOUS!
We want our customers to buy a Polestar 4 and never look back.
Wouldn’t it be hard to drive without rear window? And would cameras and screens be able to replace the rear window? Why make a simple design complicated?
Looks like every other SUV designed in a wind tunnel 😎
Yooo that RTX card be lookin fireeee
Thanks!
That Polestar 5 is beautiful!
What’s the cost of that glass roof when it needs to be replaced after mysteriously blowing out on the highway?
No rear window is probably the future. At least viewing the back through a camera.
But it does have a hitch.
Get it?
Geely Volvo😊
With no rear window in this car that should not , make it pass safety inspection in the United States???
Here in the US I've never seen my Model Y charge for faster than 200kw.
There is no washer jet for the rear cameras, Polestar is Swedish but are somehow oblivious to winter driving conditions
Volvo/Polestar belong to the Chinese commies.
ceo said himself the polestar 4 will be built in the US in charleston in 2024.
Polestar 4 looks like the trunk area is big.
Surprised how many Polestars are used as rentals
I love the design, but how in the world are they going to convince people this is worth 10k more than a Model Y? And that's for the RWD base model. I just don't get it. I was getting ready to put a deposit for this but at that price? FORGET IT.
This. I don't feel strongly about Tesla but someone has to someday put out something as compelling for both product and price as 3 and Y competition.
@@derringera I completely agree with you. But the reality is, none of the OEMs want to compete with them. And Tesla just missed their earnings. I’m expecting another price drop.
Not the same target group. This one isn't aiming for Model Y but for Porsche Macan.
@@voltaelektrifiera3556 I suppose that makes sense but then It's drastically father from competing with the target group then even my initial comment feared.
@@voltaelektrifiera3556 A car made in China competing with Porsche.... yah good luck with that.
Wonder when EV manufactures will stop thinking EVs need to be weird to sell?
Just from the photos, there is a distinct line around where the window would be. I would guess the window glass is actually there and it's just tinted with colored window tint, color-matched to the exterior paint color.
Actully, this car does not have a unique identity. Polestars are hot Volvos and I like that they show their Volvo connection. But this car, the Poelstar 4, is based on the Zeekr001, and it is really obvious that it is. This is the first Polestar that isn't based on a Volvo. The dash, steering wheel, seats, while covered in Polestar material, are the same seats as the Zeekr001. The frameless doors are like the Zeekr and so much. The greenhouse (side window area) is like the Zeekr. The Polestar 3 is a much different car that obviously sharing with the Volvo EX90. The Polestar 5 and 6 also slook like they're sharing with Volvo. Polestar has put Precept styling elements onto a Zeekr body. The rear window being taken away was previewed in the Precept, so no surprise here. I find this car sedan shape and attractive, but am disappointed that it doesn't have a more Polestar appearance and doesn't use Volvo elements primarily. btw, the seat belt color and brake calipers are Swedish gold, not mustard, and they first appeared on Polestar Volvos, the s60 and XC60 Polestar.
The build quality in China is not an issue. tbh, the build quality of Volvo s60s in the USA is more of an issue than Volvos or Polestars built in China. You may have tested one that was beat up by the press or something but I've inspected a number of Polestar 2s and the build quality is well above average with the cars feeling Volvo solid over the road. My hope is the US built Polestars and Volvos match the quality of the ones made in China.
I feel like the new electric vehicles being built int SC will be to the same standard as Chinese built models. I dont think the reliability of the s60 really tells the story of the factories potential, it’s just that the power train in general was designed to have issues, wether that be intentional or not.
Agreed. The issue isn’t the build quality. It’s the potentially baked in spyware by CCP into the infotainment & navigation system. Huawei is banned for a good reason
Why does it have side and front windows?
Isn't it self drive? 🤔😊
no rear window is a meh, i think they are also manufacturing in US not just in China
Let's hope
@@KirkKreifels polestar 3 production in south Carolina, definitely 4 is coming as well 👀
i think it reduces costs, maybe emissions and raw resoruces, but it does lower weight and have less weight near top , for effeincy , being less crash unsafe to others, less road wear, more momentum around turns
Not for the Polestar 4 at this point. The Polestar 3 will be manufactured in the USA and the Polestar 2 at some point in Belgium.
Looked into Polestar pricing. $55k and...WAY UP.
And would one pay $55k for a Chinese branded vehicle?
I love everything about it 🤍🖤🤍🖤🤍🖤
Best looking Polestar so far, until the 5 comes out. Glad they priced it around 60K, as the Polestar 4 is a bit too high at over 80K.
I’m suspecting the more reasonable price bc I don’t think Volvo will have a model that will directly compete with this whereas the EX90 and the 3 will more or less compete head on
Wow, pretty soon the info displays are going to be bigger than movie theater's screen. Don't know we need them as large as they are getting. It is a pretty car, but, sometimes I wish I could still get a new 240 wagon or P1800.
LOL Byton prototyped that idea, but it was an ergonomic nightmare. 15" screen is the sweet spot.
Let me see🤔if they manufactured the whole vehicle out of glass, they wouldn’t need cameras 😎
kinda looks like a prius suv
No rear windows is just stupid. First they remove the rear window wipers, then the windows. Should’ve seen it coming.😂
China owns Volvo if I recall.
Yup. Geely owns Volvo.
A Chinese company, Geely Holding, owns Volvo. But Polestars aren't designed or engineered in China. They're a small-Swedish based company closely associated with Volvo who manages, designs, cars in Sweden. In the future, some segments in Shanghai will have some development work in some Volvos but mainly, the work is done in Sweden. Geely has made Volvo more profitable and has expanded the Swedish operation team.
Will some Polestars use the SEA platform from Geely. Yes. But understand, their platform developer is Swedish. His name is Kent Bovelian. And Geely has a joint company set up in Sweden called CEVT that designs Zeekr and Lynk and Co. cars and they use a lot of Volvo tech while design their own cars.
It’s still Chinese Communist Party controlled and likely comes rigged with spyware in the infotainment & navigation system
You're a dozen years late, everyone knows that.
@@Neojhun not true. Many buyers are still unaware that Volvos potentially have CCP endorsed spyware baked into its infotainment & navigation system, complements of Huawei
Given their adversarial relationship with us, my goal is to minimize anything else I would get from that country. 🤷🏻 17:15
Geely is the least CCP compromised of the Chinese owned Automakers. You would be worse off with a BMW (iX3 globally) or VAG product built in China. Because their contractors are straight up CCP managed.
Polestar, the car company, is Swedish. Its owner is Chinese.
I may actually leave Lexus for this, it's such a sleek fastback design and it will drive like a sedan with its low center of gravity. Also in regards to where it will be built, so far most articles I have read have stated that the P3 and 4 are going to begin production in South Carolina alongside other Volvos next year.
more overpriced vaporware that nobody has ever seen and that regular people won't ever buy
WTF This is just Polstars lower end SUV. This is very much NOT Vaporware, this is just sadly what the market wants and what Automakers can supply. These will very much be Daily Driver Appliances for the lay person.
Yeah, especially when it’s a Geely
I think the Polestar 5 sedan looks nicer. I would not object to buying a car made in China as long as parts and service are available and affordable here in the U.S. My friends who are long-time Volvo owners tell me they love their cars, but parts are very expensive compared to other moderately priced cars. That gold exterior color looks like a good match for North Florida pollen. I rely mostly on my side mirrors and back up camera because of the big headrests in my Nissan LEAF, but I am not sure I would like not having a rear window at all.
Lower top speeds is mainly due to heat. You need a very good thermal system to manage that. Which costs more to manufacture. And most people don't go that fast anyways so no real need for the added cost
I was in one in Las Vegas as an Uber, and I was not impressed. Very loud inside, and the interior was very spartan with cheap fabrics everywhere. Looks like a nightmare if you had children
i will not buy a Chinese car until hong kong is free
It’s insane they’re keeping the EV tax credit to domestic manufacturers! That’s anti-competition and very anti-free market. If Americans could build cars as well as the Asians maybe I would buy one! But they have never been good and never will be unfortunately