AMD Does It Add Input Lag?
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2022
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My native language is not English, after all, does freesync increase input lag or not? since I don't understand
I don't even have any amd or a free sync monitor, I just enjoy watching your vids lol. Good stuff brother! Best tweaker and tuner hands down!
Finished your iso download eventually got down to trying out you optimization pack good stuff mate always here to check out your work 👍
As a competitive player I was always adamant about keeping Vsync OFF no matter what and never gave it a second thought, but then I tried the config you recommended with Freesync ON, Vsync ON, and an in-game FPS cap 3 FPS below the monitor's refresh rate (in my case 141 fps b/c 144 Hz) and boy am I blown away by how amazing my games feel. Rocket League has never felt smoother on my computer and I just wanted to say a huge thanks and I really appreciate the effort you put into your videos!
(Also for anyone wondering, my previous config was Freesync OFF, Vsync OFF, Uncapped FPS. I'm top 1% in Rocket League and FR33THY's recommended config feels incredible and I highly suggest you give it a try.)
Am playing rl also .. what your card ..and how did you cap the game at 141
RX 580 and since I posted this comment I have actually turned Vsync off because it just feels better. You can cap FPS in the TASystemSettings.ini file.
Steps:
1. Find the file under: Documents > My Games > Rocket League > TAGame > Config > TASystemSettings.ini
2. Search for "CustomFPS"
3. Change it to "CustomFPS=141"
Nice .. mine rx 570 .. You mean turn vsync off and use freesync only ? or what your current config ?
Yes, Freesync ON, Vsync OFF, cap FPS to 141. This is my current config for Rocket League, as it feels the best imo.
Thanks mate ✨
Ive seen 1000 vids about that topic that's the best one . Gratz mate u made that shit clean and easy to understand
Really enjoy your optimization videos and etc they have helped a lot! You should do a new video on amd radeon settings for optimization with the new RSR setting!
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Excellent video, there's a lack of tests and information on this issue for AMD, subscribed. I would like to see these kind of tests on games like Escape from Tarkov, good content my man.
Always a pleasure Chris. Much love mate.
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Hello! I have seen both of your amazing videos regarding input lag with Nvidia and AMD. I do have a question though. I have a laptop without a MUX switch and HDMI goes through iGPU as well. I have a Ryzen CPU w/ Radeon Vega gfx and an RTX 3050ti GPU. Meaning I have access to AMD Adrenaline and Nvidia Control Panel. My question is, is it worth turning on Anti-Lag with Radeon Reflex (in game)? I also plan on capping my fps and turning on freesync. What do you think are the best settings for my situation? A lot of ppl might find this inquiry helpful as well. Thanks!
42:00 - I'm at the same predicament. Some games run perfectly at 1440p but others feel far worse or have issues and I have forever been switching between monitors to the point I got a directional monitor arm so I can switch between the two easily.
Already ?? Wow excellent content and you're fast !
Running my game with Vsync on, Capped frame rate of 141, and FreeSync On and the gameplay is so much smoother. Thank you!
game valorant ?
First and foremost THANK YOU soooo much for what you do and always helping buffoons like me out! Sorry to always ask questions but I already stated I’m a buffoon 🙃. I have 2 questions. 1:) Is there any reason in particular you’re not using windows 11? And 2:) I have the 6900xt, and 5800x along with the acer 1080p 390hz monitor… fortnite is all I play… When I play with the in game frames capped to 390hz or 387hz and don’t experience screen tearing of any sort, should I still use freesync/v sync? I don’t have any tearing playing unlimited either. If you want to run a game where enhanced sync isn’t buggy then fortnite might be a good game to test it on as I haven’t had any issues when I’ve messed around with it and had my in game frames capped to 400 and unlimited. (Just a thought to be able to test out enhanced sync a little more so… 🤷♂️.) Thanks again man! Cheers!
Im gonna watch this from start to finish.
What's this ram kit you got at 3666 CL14?
Any chance you could do a video on ‘mouse cursor drift’? For a while people dismissed it due to mouse rotation, but if it’s happening on laptops touchpads too, which is absolute positioning, debunks that.
Impossible to build muscle memory when the mouse moves inconsistently..
Also, why is ‘mouse’ the only thing that was removed from windows troubleshooting?…
Keyboard is still there, it’s just specifically mouse that has been removed since w10.
Great video. What if we have simulator that does not go above 60-90 fps like MSFS or Xplane. What is the recommendation after the benchmark to cap the FPS? Below the 1% low?
If you run no sync settings and uncapped should you have variable refreshrate on or off in windows?
I have a 165hz monitor and get above 165 fps in most games. Should I turn on gsync, vsync, and limit fps at 162? Or should I stick with unlimited fps?
W Chris, prolly the best tweaker out there 😩
Would it be possible to update the enhanced sync results? AMD “reintroduced” Enhanced Sync a few months ago. Basically they fixed all the major bugs.
They also recommend Enhanced Sync and Freesync enabled together.
Does image sharpening add any input lag? since its post-processing effect. Don't think i heard you talk about it in the vid :)
Wonder which games you had trouble with? I know we all play different games. My 6800XT last few drivers been solid with Elden Ring, Kingdomcome Deliverance, Cyberpunk 2077, MSFS 2020 and Tarkov. Have not played Valorant though.
TOP TIER content much love
Guys if you had choppy gameplay like all your games feel unsmooth it's not your gpu but cpu throttling. In my case cpu cooler was not installed correctly so try to put best thermal paste like Arctic mx5 or grizzly then make sure everything is tight and balanced between 4 screws. I installed arctic freezer II 420 but backplate was tilted that cause the issue for me.
Hello Chris, nice video!
I have two questions:
1) what g-sync monitor you use for g-sync video?
2) What is more smoother experience in your opinion?
G-sync, v-sync or freesync with v-sync.
I know you got experience with both, so i'm very curious about your answer.
Thank you and have a nice day!
Uncapped for best latency and for competitive games as long as gpu isn’t heavy load (like in the 90%). Gsync/freesync (based on monitor) if you get fps lower than your refresh rate. Never v sync.
@@OneShotCS My monitor is 144hz and I have a game that is 70 fps. What should I do? Should I limit the fps? or leave unlimited? enable or disable freesync?
@@Shynaid enable freesync
can confirm. with amd gpu best choice for valo no tearing is freesync only, none of that extra stuff + in game frame rate limit. Otherwise you just want to run no sync and FPS much higher than monitor refresh. Sadly valo doesn't seem to let you limit FPS higher than 500 so it's either 500 or uncapped
I'm following this and understand it. No fps cap in the AMD driver. Yet, I have an issue with Modern Warfare 2 and the in game cap. I have a 165Hz monitor and when I cap at 162 fps it doesn't work. It keeps going over 165Hz and has tearing. The frame limiter only kicks in at 142 fps yet I'm losing 20 frames I could use. It is obviously an engine problem as it happened in MW 2019 and Warzone 1 also.
I emailed Activision support. Would you have any idea why it isn't working properly? It does this on two different systems I own with different monitors. Both 165Hz.
I want to get the lowest latency. I've been using Chill to cap as that is my only option (when it decides to work yet that is another story). However, from watching this Chill has a lot of input lag.
I might go back to my Nvidia 3080 Ti as with Reflex it works flawlessly.
Can u do a video on the capture card refresh rate n preferred display on AMD software! hooking it up to monitor n computer?
Hi freethy! I hope im not alone in this situation but when i turn v sync on in the software and in game, my game start stuttering like crazy, however when i only use the software everything looks fine.
For a amd ryzen 5500 gpu and amd ryzen 5600 cpu good? And should I use windows 11 or 10
hello man ..im not english dude so i need to know what did u say exactly in 8.40 min please, the gpu is locked and most amd users most know ....
please i need to know becuse im having a big problem with my rx 6700xt stutters and fps drops in warzone
hey! really nice video. I was wondering if you had any tips for me because I am at a loss of what to do. I have a ryzen 7 2700 and randomly the game league of legends has had a lot of stutter and input lag almost making it feel like its 30 fps instead of 144 where it should be. my mouse feels like I am pulling it through butter and everything feels slow as if there is some sort of invisible lag existing. i tried capping the framerate at 144 and tried the amd antilag setting but people are telling me its a bug with AMD and league of legends. I was just wondering if you had any suggestions on how to somehow make it better before I assume its just a bug
try getting intelligent standby list cleaner and you can also get process lasso.
I have the same issue, disable SMT worked for me, you can do this in the BIOS, but i recomend use process lasso and disable only for league
@@theroberto2202 ah yeah thats what i did for a while but the issue didnt fix so I got a new cpu and its all good now but tysm for caring
@@allyooops what cpu u got?
Hey @fr33thy love the videos. Used your tools to set up windows 10. Used the guide for valorant and am using in game fps cap to 167 (monitor) enhanced sync, free synch, ingame vsync... my gpu is only going up to 600MHz max. When I uncap the frames i can get up to 1200 ish. Even with min/max set to your guidelines. Any ideas? 5800x and a 6900xt running 1440p on valorant.
In case anyone comes across this later, FREETHY goes through the fix of this exact scenario in his AMD optimization video.
Do i still need to use vsync in game and in amd control panel or is it enough to use in amd? I want to try freesync in valorant 390hz display.
For a Amd Ryzen 5500 RX would you reinstall windows 11 or 10
Great content! Could you work on a video to optimize the RAM for a 5800x3d?
i could but it would kinda be the same as my old ram oc vid, should id do it anyway?
@@FR33THY what about best settings for the CPU and RAM
I had 6900XTX in my PC and was happy w/FPS and loved the efficiency I was getting - but, when I switched back to an Nvidia card my effective skill in Apex when up MASSIVELY - it felt like my "hits were better".
@@pinkgrognak Well, the 6900XT may generate more FPS at 1440p, but the Nvidia has objectively lower measurable input lag?
does it differ for amd all in one pcs, i have input lag there and i have done everything.
Im planning to buy a gpu, and i mainly play competitive fps games such as valorant, apex, and cod warzone. Input lag is one of the things Im looking at when buying but Im not sure if I go with Nvidia's reflex or AMD's anti lag. Is NVidias latency better than AMD? and by how much?
it is better, but the games need to support it
Why don't you do a full video optimizing valorant? It would be beautiful
As of Radeon Driver April 2023, does the FTTC still add input lag?
I have this strange thing with the MW 2 engine. I have a 165Hz monitor. I can't cap anything above 142 fps in game otherwise it goes over 165 fps introducing tearing. I was hoping to run closer to 165 fps rather than 142 fps I am doing now as my PC can maintain 162 fps.
I was going to use FRTC at 162 fps yet I see it adds a massive amount of input lag. Any advice?
check if you have overdrive on in you monitors settings if it is turn it off. thats most likley what it is
it could also be called response time. try lowing it until it goes away
Underrated AF!
I ve noticed that amd use gpu scaling per default can you please do a display scaling tutorial
Hey Fr33thy, I was wondering if you could test Shadowplay vs OBS (Both streaming and recording seperately). Admin mode enabled obviously. Perhaps a CBR of 50mbps and CQP of 18? Psycho Visual + look ahead etc.
Thanks!
sure probably best bet with capframe x id say? and the nvidia card yeah?
@@FR33THY Hey, I was thinking more input latency. Some other channels found OBS had a +3ms input latency but I also cannot trust their numbers due to their installs being entirely bloat with 20gb+ RAM used at idle etc. and the numbers being 30ms+ total.
Thanks!
Any advice on streaming delay on the amd software
Is the v-sync fixed with AMD or do you still have to turn it on in game too? I just tried to turn it on only in amd and it worked.
fixed
hey, is it possible to run valorant on windows 11 without secure boot enabled
thanks!
can you test input lag between ps2 and usb port ?
can u use gsync on the asus 360hz when u run all the 360hz?
Chris, when Battlenonsense ran his games uncapped, the GPU back-pressure caused added input lag, your tests don't seem to show that, do you know what's going on? Excellent video m8~ Edit: maybe Valorant is still CPU/RAM limited at these high framerates?
yeah thats a thing 2, in this case testing with high end gpus will not give that issue in a cpu bound game like val
good job chris !
Can you do an video on low/mid/high tier pc parts you reccommend please, thanks in advance
yeah pr0 im sorry need to get onto this video
HI Fr33THY I saw your part about the vsync on by the driver you can fix just by edit the reg config from amd Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0000\UMD\Vsync Control to 30 000 and DEF to 0 i found that the driver force it on even if the vsync off in the game with dx 11 games csgo doesnt work with that method (dx9)
Where are windows 7 videos?
So you never answered my questions should anti lag be turned on or off???
From what I can understand, Anti Lag should only be turned on if you are GPU bound in the game you are playing. In other words, the graphics card has to be the bottleneck, not the CPU.
im confused now do i have to put Freesync Vsync AND cap FPS or do i have to put on Freesync and cap the FPS or do i have to put on Freesync and Vsync ? some games dont even allow to cap FPS.
Blur Busters: "for the lowest lag tear-free G-SYNC configuration possible, use G-SYNC + V-SYNC + Nvidia Reflex OR a minimum -3 fps limit (162 FPS at 165Hz) to ensure the framerate remains within the refresh rate to keep G-SYNC active."
Note: Nvidia Reflex limits fps automatically.
💯
Does anyone find in Warzone you can't cap your framerate using the in game frame limiter? I'm trying to cap at 235 but it just goes to 250 in game. I can cap at 200 but it's like it's locked to 50 frame intervals. 150, 200, 250 etc.
Same problem here so im using riva tuner.. however the input delay must be higher
@@mjkgnjfn Yes, based on Chris' testing in the video I'd expect the latency to be higher with Riva. Pretty annoying as it's been this way in WZ since 2019 and it was still the same on the recent MWII beta so doesn't look like it's getting fixed anytime soon!
I tried your settings and they make my mouse jittery...there's nothing better than Windows defaults... sorry for my bad english, with your windows settings I am behind in games
Hey mate, I am an AMD overclocking and tech enthusiast and I have always been told that you never want VSync on AMD cards activated, anywhere in Radeon Software or In-game.
For Nvidia, however, always disable in-game VSync and inside Nvidia control panel, set VSync to "ON" globally.
I have never noticed a different in using Radeon Anti-Lag with or without VSync enabled on any RX 6000 series card (I own over 3 dozen of them).
I was always taught that AMD never uses VSync as Freesync Pro and Freesync Pro 2.0 are amazing adaptions.
Always set a frame-limit via Rivatuner Statistics Server about 1 frame lower than your capped refreshrate.
I mention this because I am #1 in the world on Stock cooling, Conventional Air cooling, and Closed-Loop "All-In-One" water cooling for multiple AMD processors and GPUs.
Not tryna clout chase or anything. It's purely hobby and I get nothing for it. I mention this because I have never heard of anyone uses VSync with a RX 5000 or RX 6000 series card!
Always been told it didn't matter, just cap your framerates.
I have always been told: Nvidia should set global vsync in control panel and set vsync OFF in EVERY GAME.
AMD Freesync should always be disabled unless you have slow refresh rate (60hz).
Radeon Anti-Lag definitely has a 10-30% decrease in total input latency, though. I love it so much.
I've also got to add that my being #1 for benchmarking and stress testing AMD CPUs and GPUs does NOT transfer over into input latency delays. I have zero idea. Just speculation.
I just like hitting high scores, I don't notice 5ms of added input delay.
(I have the world's fastest Ryzen 7 1700, Ryzen 7 3700X, Ryzen 5 3600X, Ryzen 5 5600X, 5600G, and 5700G on STOCK/Air/AIO cooling, each.)
(And world's fastest RX 6600 XT, 6650 XT, 6700 XT, 6800, and 6900 XT (before the 6950 XT launched). )
Should be found on HWBot.
안티랙은 GPU사용률이 95퍼센트 이상 사용되지않는이상 오히려 입력대기시간이 증가합니다. 발로란트및 리그오브레전드에서의 대표적인 예시입니다.
can you unlist your stretched res videos
is forcing display scaling still relevant for input lag?
@qkchamp3398 My native language is not English, after all, does freesync increase input lag or not? since I don't understand
I have the xl2546 240hz I want to upgrade to new monitor should I get the 390 hz Acer or the Asus vg259qm 280 hz or the Asus 360hz
id save money and get the asus tuff 280 its always on sale stupid low price
Asus got a 500hz monitor coming soon. Id wait for that.
Omen x 25
I have 5950x / 3090 / 32GB
I mostly play valorant and I found how what causes my input lag for that game were 3 things. 1 is installing the AMD x570 chipset drivers (now I only use what is preinstalled in Win11) and once done installing Nvdia driver, don’t touch it trick it (still can play with colors and such). The last one is don’t install Realtek Audio driver, the one pre-installed is enough! My mouse is more snappy
Use NimeZ drivers on AMD cards.
so what's the best fps cap to use if the game does not support in game capping
msi if your on amd thats your only option
@@FR33THY Thanks
@@FR33THY would capping fps in the steam launch options be better than msi? i have same issue carnt cap fps in the game i play :/
TL;DW?
can you please do an optimization video For Rainbow Six Siege? Youve done one for almost every competitive game except Siege... My fav game is always left behind in the dust :(
hi freethy, maybe u can help.
i have amd 5900x + 6800xt and mikro stuttering in warzone the hole time.
i tried everything and can not find a solution?
did u have any experience with amd combination cpu + grapiccards and mikrostutters?
Did you sort your stutters, I have same set up.
@@ggman6070 still no sultion for the stutters. I am waiting for warzone2 if the stutters still exist i will sell my card
@@michaelpach5803 use 22.5.1 drivers, do the minimal install and use moreclocktool and msi aftrerburner to use minimum gpu clock
@@samsemannsamosen1558 does not work.. u can look At amd Forum it is an amd problem
wtf is going on with your mic its capping its going up down left right
short answer: no(?)
I still have the worst fucking stutters on warzone with my 6800xt no matter what I do.
FR33THY !!!!! You have to see this!!! Search RUclips for "Disable HDCP on Nvidia video cards" By "Big Blue Frontend" WOW!! Almost no one knows about this fix!! My mouse is much more responsive after i disabled it!! Guys do this fix! But read the comments first! For some HD content on streaming stops working only SD available, but not for others, its easily revertible!
Ewww amd! Gsync ultimate🔥
yeah man gsync feels better, i need a proper gsync 1440p monitor
Might as well wait for the new monitors coming out , 360hz 1440p 🤤
Eww Nvidia proprietary drivers 🤮🤮🤮
@@dwmexe9474 😭 , sigh yea, your right
hey i found a way to get amd software working in server 2022, just install driver only using device manager then head to extracted drivers file "\Packages\Drivers\Display\WT6A_INF\B380472\" the run ccc2_install.exe that it. sometimes it bug out you might wanna fix it also might wanna make it auto run. i just undervolt then save it to afterbuner, wayyy easier
forums.guru3d.com/threads/amd-radeon-software-customize-setup-radeon-setup-tool.443504/
this works!
@@FR33THY wow thats amazing, thanks man