London rent crisis: what you can get if you leave the city behind
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- Millennials are calling themselves ‘Generation Rent’. Housing prices in London are so high that most can’t even get together the money for a deposit while paying
Reports say Londoners now spend up to 75% of their income on rent.
We met Matt, who pays £1200 per month for a small studio flat in Zone 1 London. And Gabby, who moved out of London 4 years ago, when her landlord tried to nearly double her rent.
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That, my dude, is not a studio, it is a kitchen with a bed in it.
New to London, huh?
Prison cell you pay to live In.
That guy is an absolute mug, definitely getting ripped off. Even in Notting Hill you can find better value for money especially if you share a 2 bed. But besides that he's an idiot for trying to live with the world's elite in Notting Hill. The other thing everyone's forgetting about here is the absolute cockroach of a slumlord that created that space. It's human garbage like that have contributed to the ridiculous rental market in London.
SB 90s 100% .
I was just looking around on zoopla and some other websites and to found better studios for cheaper than what he’s paying. It may be down to the location though, as Notting hill is a stones throw away from central london
@@canyouwhenyourdrunk I reckon it would have got smelly while in lockdown 🤢
He literally could get a nicer bigger flat/apartment in another part of London but he wants to be able to say he lives in nottinghill 😂😂😂😂
That is exactly what I was thinking. Literally can get something so nice in Greenwich and still have great things to do.
We don't know that
Precisely. You can get a proper one bed in a new build with all bells and whistles for this money. Granted, you are not going to live in Zone 1/2, but who cares.
He can get double the size space for cheaper in Ealing
@@Hanfahhussain yeah we do - top right at 0:16 it says “Notting Hill, Studio Flat”
"This is my attic" *opens cupboard.
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No ladder needed there, to access his attic!
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“En suite bathroom” 😂 don’t think it’s en suite when your bed is in the kitchen.
En Meat bathroom...
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He's chopping onions, turns his head around looking for the salt. BOOOM sees the inside of his toilet!
That must be a horrible visual!
its a shower cubicle, so that makes it a shower room :P
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Which automatically makes it a non-bathroom.
£1.2K can definitely get you more space in London. That is ridiculous lol
@@grantnewman4568 Most of up north is shit
We have a 2 double bed flat in streatham for 1100 🤷♀️
That’s what I thought 🤨
MJforever127i his story is b*llcrap for drama.
That's normal for Notting Hill, you can get more space in a less popular part of London.
If he ever has to do time it will be a breeze for him 😂
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It wont becuse you cant eat or take fresh air when you want.
Lol good one. Prison would be much cheaper though.
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"and moving through here" *takes a single step across entire property*
Right ?? 🤣🤣🤣
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"points out to his chair"
-thats my living room
Points out yoga mat. Unless he lies on the bed he cannot use it.
Prison cells in Sweden and Norway are bigger than that studio flat lol
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Shake your head
Goes to show how bad London now is.
But Notting Hill though, hardly the cheapest part of London. He could've chosen somewhere cheaper in London but didn't.
@m. I live in zone 4 and don't pay anything near what he pays. Of course there's a problem and all rental property more expensive than 15 years ago, but I have no sympathy for this guy. He's doing fine.
£1200 including bills in London is a bargain. I pay that amount when I add my bills to my rent but my area is worse.
if he moved literally 5 minutes across the road to North Kensington he could save £300 a month.
Come to Crayford/Erith/Dartford area- you can rent a new studio flat for around £700pcm and it's still within the travel zones.
@@teainortakoy Yeah and those are areas considered to be Kent or borderline Kent.
The elephant in the room is that for hundreds of thousands of people London is the only place they can work, so London and non London rent isn't comparable. The train from somewhere like Margate is £50 return per day and over 4 hours round trip. Do that three days a week and your costs goes up £600 pm and you'll be exhausted.
It's rubbish but until opportunities start to grow significantly outside of London or the trains get sorted out, London will still draw people willing to make sacrifices.
I think the need to be in an office for many is going to be absolutely reconsidered now after this pandemic with home working becoming a more than viable option for many. But at the moment if you wanted a year ticket to London it's going to be about £5000 which is horrendous.
From Ashford in Kent the HS1 train is 35 minutes to central London (St. Pancras), the rent on a 2 bed terrace in Ashford starts at about £800pcm, in the surrounding villages and smaller towns the costs can be even lower. Yes the train ticket is expensive but this is offset by the reduction in rent, also in the present climate (corona 19) most “professionals” are working from home and rarely in the office…. My wife hasn’t been to the office for over 9 months, and when she did go it was only to collect her chair and a second monitor!!
I just don't buy that at all. You sound like you've never left London.
@@Osk94 There are 9 million people in London, 95% of them employed. Indeed has 50,000 jobs in London listed, where there are only 9,000 in Birmingham, the next biggest city. Unemployment in the North East, Midlands and Yorkshire is all higher than London - if there's so much opportunity outside of London, why is unemployment higher in the other major cities? Why is the scale of jobs available in the next biggest city 1/5th of that in London? Why is London rated alpha++ city alongside New York? And, it's not just about 'a' job. I have friends who work night shifts in care homes and hate it but they're the only jobs available in my small home town.
Also to your final point I've lived in London for a year, for the other 30 I grew in the South West and I've lived in Brighton, Nottingham, Derby and Leeds. In my industry in Leeds there were max 5 businesses I could work for, in London there are hundreds. It's not comparable.
Maybe get a job in Margate ? Just move to Margate?
He rents in Notting Hill... that for a start, if you’re not rolling in dough is problematic indeed.
He will sacrifice a good standard of living (home wise) for the snobbery & prestige of the W11 postcode .
That would have done anyone’s head in over this pandemic 😷 hope he’s either moved somewhere better or got through it alright.
It's not just snobbery.. Long commutes suck
Notting Hill isn’t exactly a 5 minute walk to the professional hot spots like Bank, London Bridge, Old Street, Angel, Canary Wharf etc. You will still have to spend at least 20 minutes on the tube.
@@andyaerials Seriously he could have got more “bang for his buck”, as they say.. in areas like other less affluent areas within London on a studio flat.
What he is living in is essentially a broom cupboard. A 30 or 45 minute commute wouldn’t be that bad ... no one said move completely out of London.
For what he paid for that he could honestly have done a bit better.
He wanted the bragging rights of saying “I live in Notting Hill”.
@@andyaerials I work in South Kensington and it takes 40 minutes at the most. I’d rather commute for a bit longer than live in a shoebox
He's an absolute mug. You can rent somewhere even in zone 2 for much cheaper.
for £1200 per month in Yorkshire, you can live in a large house with sea views
but who the fuck wants to live in yorkshire
@@londonlady6663 who the fuck wants to live in london, its a shithole lmao
Burt Meister job opportunities
Lots of activities
Great places like brick lane , Soho , Leicester Square , Brixton , Finsbury Park (for festivals)
Lots of bars and eateries
What does Yorkshire have?
@@Doogie95 it also has knife crime, disgustingly high cost of living, lots of traffic and its disgustingly crowded
Burt Meister crowded is ok.
Traffic is a bitch but our public transport is amazing
Living cost is very high granted
The knife crime is very isolated in certain areas like newham ; the hipsters areas are safe where I live ( I live in Brixton)
I’m sure due to the pandemic he is really wishing he got a bigger space.
all those closed bars and restaurants
He’s a fool tbh, he could’ve easily gotten a really nice 1/2 bed apartment for £1,200 if he moved a different London borough, but he chose to live in the most expensive one , Kensington and Chelsea.
@@KINGKING10109 lol yeah imagine having all that money to waste. I pay 750 and my flat is bigger than and a stone's throw away from a central line station
@You Yes You from what i herd the London rental market has collapsed. Alot of foreigners have gone home and anyone else left should now be paying half what they were before covid.
Next year the cladding fire issue will include commercial buildings, so alot of businesses are now shutting their offices and moving to home working only.
@@KINGKING10109 we are in London Borough of Bromley have 2 bed for £1150 pm
£1200????? Where are you in London? That's mental. I'm in West Hampstead paying not a fortune more for a big 2 bed flat… you've been absolutely had, son!
West Hampsteads a bit further out than Notting Hill. Still a good deal though well done
@@oliverbanter1865 thanks! I love it here. And only 5 mins to Baker Street/Marylebone/Regents Park and 10 mins to Oxford St/Bond St thanks to the jubilee line so actually further only in distance, not time!
West Hampstead is actually very nice lot of character and a few minutes to Maida Vale, Kilburn and St Johns Wood
I’d rather live in West Hampstead than Notting Hill.
@@sophocles8761 I completely agree.
WHY WOULD YOU LIVE IN NOTTING HILL. ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE TRYING TO SAVE MONEY.
Yazz justheretocomment because it’s Notting Hill!
Notting hill is safe and close to centre zone 2. If you living in Croydon where is cheap & fucking dirty & dangerous.
@@topolisketuri5651 There are plenty of safe areas near central London that don't cost a fortune like Notting Hill. I've lived in very safe zone 1 flats that were bigger, nicer and cost less because they weren't in the middle of the world's elite in Notting Hill. Zone 2 also has plenty of safe areas that are even cheaper.
That’s the generation of moaners that can’t afford there own place! They just hope mummy and daddy will feel sorry for them and stump up there deposit.
@@gkelectrical1 Im gonna go as far to say this guy earns his own living,
Living in a small space is one thing, paying £1200 a month to do so is crazy.
That guy’s accommodation is like Bender’s apartment. The lady has the equivalent of Bender’s cupboard space!
It’s sad that Londoners who were born and raised in London cannot afford to buy in London and are expected to uproot and move to another city. Moving out of London is not always a solution.
This I moved to Dunstable recently after bouncing around the South. I'd like to live Wimbledon where I grew up but it's just not doable. That said even if prices dropped to affordable, I'm not sure Id move back there now as everyone I knew has left the area.
Sometimes London can be over-rated. Its expensive as hell, and unless you are earning a good whack, like is always going to be a struggle staying there. I lived most of my life in London, but as you get older, London doesnt have the pull for me like it used to. You want your kids to go to a nice school and not be afraid for them. Its nice seeing countryside daily and not just going to the parks on the weekend.
What London has though is work. The last year has been a boon for WFH and I have no intention of returning to an hour commute from St Pancras each way. Its not easy for people.
This is the same all over the country.
In the southwest prices are inflated due to people buying holiday homes.
While the average wage is very low.
@@firstnamesurname5376 how do you work that one out genius?
Unskilled work generally pays lower wages but we are capped by the minimum wage so somebody in hull will get the same as someone in harrow.
Assuming you have a legal right to reside in the uk you get to go to state school same as london . You get to apply to uni same as ppl in london. Being raised here has no benefit over anyone else! Living here bleeds you dry when as they have said rent cost 75% of disposable income. Please tell me where i went wrong compared to someone outside of london because as this video shows. The people who dont live in london are the idiots for not taking advantage of how cheap the cost of living is
Welsh people feel the same - you can understand how they feel.
He’s lucky he can afford to do things after he pays his rent.
If you live in Notting hill and don’t have any money left after paying your bills you seriously need to rethink your life choices
His bills are included, so the rest of money left, is for him
He is a young professional in London, earning London salary
@@LucasLima-sz4kg London salary is pittance compared to the rest of the world. Of course non-London salaries are lower but housing costs are exponentially lower so you are always going to be better off.
@@gkelectrical1 …I understand if you’re speaking from a council estate perspective but we’re talking about the absurd private rental market.
Some dude really got a flat and said someone dumbass will pay 1200 pounds to live in my kitchen just to say he lives in Nottinghill and ill buy takeaway it’s literally just a kitchen with a bed 😂
I'm so happy for her on being able to buying her own property. His studio flat would make me feel anxious and crowded. I'm glad he has the outlook he has and it works for him.
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in regards to his outlook and making it work for him, mans just huffing copium or gaslighting himself.
London’s lovely to visit but christ, I can’t wait to get home to the north Wales coast, the feel the sea breeze on my face and hear the sounds of birds and sheep
Since leaving London my happiness has improved 100%
London seems just like nyc...overpriced, crowded, but loneliness resides everywhere!!!
it's exactly the same and I've lived in both places
You're spot on with that.
Call me for company
only sharia is the answer.
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Yes, of course it is!
I guess the guy in the London shoe box studio had a joyful time during lockdown with all them "attractions" in the city :)
I decided to move back in Newcastle to save money to buy my house. I lived in London for 4 years while in uni (I decided to move as far as I could from my parents). I’m glad I moved out, London can be draining.
I’m actually in Kent close to south east London, and also decided to move to Newcastle to save money to be able to buy a house as well. Is it hard to find a job there ?
Hello, I am trying to secure a training contract or work in a legal job. Additionally I have a job as barista. It’s something while looking for my dream job. I don’t know if it can help but my parents also work as health carers as they are needed here.
What do you need a king size bed for when you barely have room to move and it cuts into your kitchen? So ridiculous.
Not sure, but maybe the landlord put it in there.
@@djpray2k Possibly! But landlords won't spend extra money on a king size bed for a smaller than average room when the standard and most popular sized bed in the UK for an adult is a double bed.
More so, because we generally don't have large rooms in rented accommodation in the UK. Every square ft counts to a commercial landlord.
True, I would set a single bed instead
Tbf he uses the underneath for a decent amount of storage
The bed doubles as his livingroom and dining table 😂
8:12 "because I spend so much on rent in central London I feel obliged to go out in central London and spend even more money."
Offered 75k for a job in central London . I said put accommodation on top, never heard from them again 😂. Happy working at 55k in Birmingham, at least you can afford and do more.
If you leave the city behind, what you get is a 3h commute and a good 200 quid a month in transportation (or more tbh)
This is just temp solution, lets stop being sentimental and make serious changes, there is life outside capital!
Just down the road in Shepherds Bush, he probably could have got a small 1 bed flat for that price. Not smart at all 🤔
If he went to north Kensington he would’ve got something way cheaper
Exactly! I live in a 1 bed flat in Shepherds Bush and pay less than £500 in rent a month, just under £650 including all bills. This guy isn't smart with money, although he did say he chose to pay for the location and not the space. I think that's stupid but that's his choice.
@@natb9919 Not London related but how the hell are you paying £650 including bills for a 1 bed flat in London? I live in Colchester and in all of my years of research trying to move on my own and no longer house share I have barely seen any 1 bed flats that were £650 in rent alone. They're mostly £650 + bills if you're lucky no matter the area of the town.
@@REDinitial probably council like mine i pay 480 not including other bills for a one bed flat also
But getting a council flat is nigh on impossible these days
Or Acton!
The thing that bothered me the most about this video was he had his Vinyl stored face down
Yeh...I was hoping to see what he listened to as well. Daft Punk maybe?
I mean, if you willingly choose to live in West London knowing how expensive it is..
“Paid more for the location rather than the space” there you have it.
The landlord for the dude is corrupt af. He cut a studio flat in half and is passing it as a flat for an exorbitant rent.
Property in London is hot stuff. Why not squeeze the most you can out of your tenants
blame the landlord all you want, the tenant is still paying for it, no one is being forced.
@@gkelectrical1 because its unethical fucktard
@@josephm5241 well maybe it should be regulated fucktard
@@gunyadownshotfakbanggang5533 do you think we live in an ethical society? Is it ethical that our money is created from nothing and the more they print the more a house costs? Is that Ethical?
My dad was 16 and moved to London by himself and worked in a famous record shop and when he tells me what the housing used to be like and the place he lived in back then makes me feel so sad :( so proud of how far he has come through as he's now in Scotland with a house, amazing job and an amazing family :) x
There is plenty of space in Scotland and it's cheaper.
And remember, well.. from what people are now posting about.. Scotland used to have the stock exchange. It was not just London. Liverpool also had its own exchanges as well.. We were indeed a lot more coordinated before. So London was not the end all and be all... at all. Maybe it is time that London stopped being the actual "capital"....
The record shop - was it HMV at Brent Cross?
He can totally get himself somewhere nicer, but maybe in zone 2 or 3 - definitely not in Notting hill. But hey if he’s happy with the location then what can we say :)
Now even zone3-4 is getting bad, even zone 6 has stupid rent.
I’m honestly wondering why people are so angry at him. I think that it’s dump too but he CHOSE to live that way. Everyone should do what they like.
@@farhioabdalla6353 exactly. Pretty sure I would choose Notting Hill over Margate any f-ing day. Notting Hill *is* very nice - nicer before the pandemic, of course. So I hope he is renegotiating his rent; his landlord could be open to the idea. But all these people from undesirable places that will never be desirable calling him a fool...it's unnecessary and methinks they are trying to make themselves feel better for their lot.
Why is the draw of London always there’s so much to do? And the list pretty much always comprises of bars and restaurants...you do realise these things exist in every other UK town, village, city..
Are you seriously comparing the world class restaurants and bars to the rest of the country? Plus you are lying to yourself if you think London is just restaurants and pubs. How about every single band visiting and world class theatre performances for starters.
@@adsadam1 yeah but Manchester and birmingham and Liverpool for example all have plenty of decent pubs, bars, restaurants, entertainment. The reality is unless you are absolutely loaded you probably don’t go to world class restaurants every night. You don’t need 30 Michelin starred restaurants near your house because you don’t eat in them that often. Most big cities have more bars and pubs then you will ever need. People generally only go to 5-10 different pubs bars and restaurants regularly anyway because we form habits. On average people in Manchester and Birmingam go out more because they have more disposable income. Salaries are slightly lower in some industries but costs are way lower. London is great but personally I prefer 3 bedrooms, a garden, a garage, a drive, and still have money to spend. Each to there own.
@@adsadam1 I think you could find comparable restaurant standards in many other cities in the UK and also probably at a fraction of the price. Equally, ‘word class’ restaurants aren’t exactly accessible for the majority of the population, that being one of the major determinants of extortionate living costs surely isn’t enough. Also, yes bands are more likely to go to London, but they also tour the rest of the UK more often than not. If they didnt, I’m sure you could still travel to London (like I do) for the concert, as opposed to that being a reason to live in London and pay ridiculous amounts of money in rent.
@@adsadam1 Oh no, I can't get on a train for 2 and a half hours to go see for some reason, better pay 70% of my wage on rent in London on the off chance I can see once a decade.
@@adsadam1 fuck London
"Margate isn't far from London, it's only an hour and a half"...um...yeah that's far ma'am!
I've been to Margate for day trips, but it still seems a bit rundown, and not inviting. There is some investment coming in, but it's a struggling seaside town and its economy is not comparable to London. Plus, I am a Londoner born and raised - the pandemic has taught me I'd like to be near my loved ones. Even 13 miles across the city has been tough at times. However, the lady makes a great point about London being a bit of a pressure cooker, and needing to climb the career ladder to afford a decent life in London. And these studios, which are really house or flat conversions, are a total scam. I'd like to live alone too, but I'd go nuts in something that small and poorly laid out. I wonder what it's been like during the pandemic?
13 miles being an issue xD
The Margate flat may only be £720 but the season ticket on the high speed costs about £680 per month if you had to get into London every day in a reasonable amount of time, so the two options can't really be compared. This was pre-covid though, so I guess if you're WFH a lot then it changes the whole equation.
Still ~£1300 pm effective living cost to get an actual house compared to a kitchen with a toilet attached to it...
budget. smaller rents. I rent in america too
Ive just bought a house 45 mins from London In Brampton. My mortgage is £790 per month lol. I have 4 bedrooms A garage, drive for 2 cars with carport and a garden!!!
Hated London so much so happy I left! Overpriced overhyped
Yep just moved to Huntingdon, Still work in London tho! But my Mortgage on a 4 bed house is under £800 per month. I have a garage drive for 2 cars and a carport also my own garden. Mot importantly, when not working I breathe fresh air lol!!!
I am Scottish but lived down south for 4 years including 1 year in London. As soon as my tenancy expired I was straight back to Scotland. Bigger than the space he has. Horrendous quality of life. It baffled me how blinkered some Londoners can be and think it is the be all and end all. Every city in the UK has shops, pubs and restaurants around the corner.
Well, Edi is very quiet, I am not sure how it is deemed to be called capital...
I’m living in a 1 bed flat for £1,100 and my front room alone is around the same size as his whole studio (if not bigger) so it really depends on which part of London you choose to live in. You can still enjoy living in London but don’t choose areas like that. He has the money to get a bigger space which would be better for his mental well-being too. It’s also easy to get around London so you don’t need to live in specific areas to enjoy the “London life”. I agree that London is definitely expensive and for what I’m paying now, I know I could get a house in some parts of England but some of London is actually affordable. I’m not even on the best of salaries but I’m still living comfortably.
He could do his apartment tour by spinning around on one spot.
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Currently in the middle of my 5th London house search in 7 years. Each one has been one of the most time-consuming, frustrating, stressful, infuriating experiences of my life. The filthy, decrepit dog-holes that people have the audacity to ask for £600+ a month for down here never fails to surprise me. There are NO cheap areas anymore - housesharing (with strangers) and £600 rents are common now even out in zones 5-6.
The housing market (rental & mortgage) here is geared for the very well heeled, for people lower down it's fundamental broken and simply not worth it for more than a couple years. There's no real middle class left in London - just rich people and poor people. The government doesn't give a hoot and anyway there's far too much money and vested interests involved for them to tackle it in any meaningful way (if that's even possible). Housing is not a market like buying a car or a phone - unless you want to live on the street you have no choice but to be a part of it.
I'm desperate to leave it altogether tbh but currently stuck here till I can land a job outside the M25.
How viable is working outside of London for you?
I have no doubt you had & are having a nightmare with getting a house share. I've been there. But, like me, you could walk away, do a new search & have your income & life intact. Albeit with some harsh knocks.
Small, decent private landlords could not. They can't claim their paid mortgages against their tax payable & that can be as much as the rent if not more. I've read post pandemic 67% of these good landlords in large parts of London sadly didn't make it. A few are now homeless themselves, others have sold up according to early reports. So the slum landlords & large corporates will eventually take over. Straight back to the very bad old days.
Now the London leavers have been summoned back to their offices by their employers or lose their job. So renters are massively up whilst available good rentals are drastically reduced. What a total mess.
If possible try finding a remote work from home job and you can live outside London while getting London pay. Best thing about Covid is the introduction of more remote working.
@@TheJellyBabyxxxx : Wow... didn't see that one coming... Why did the landlords not make it? What did you mean by this ? ....
Up North in Cumbria you can expect rent for a 2 bedroom flat for £800... Add on £400 worth of bills a month and this racks up to £1200. Not much better than London.
I live in South Africa and pay £280 rent for a spacious studio apartment in the city centre in Cape Town (the most expensive city in my country)... Always wanted to move to the UK for employment, however, this rent nonsense is too much
The most shockingly-small London apartments are quite comparable to average apartments in Tokyo. At least in London there's only rent and deposit. In Japan, the estate agent takes at least one full month's rent as fee (so you always need equiv. 3 or 4 month's rent to move into a new flat), then there's renewal fees every 12 or 24 months just to keep renting.
I left London because I was tired of living like this. But It wasn't easy finding a job elsewhere. In every interview I was asked, "why do you want to come here?" I struggled to convince prospective employers that I wasn't a snob or a big-time Charlie and I wouldn't go running back to the big city after a short time. Now I live in a small village and work from home, and ir's great.
Gahh this is my goal, I honestly feel hopeless as a 25 year old in this city, I live with my family (absolute love them) and the idea of moving out only to share with strangers is just not something I'm willing to do, so in order to have my own place I need to leave this city - what field do you work in and where about in the UK are you now based if you don't mind me asking?
@@sasb3675 I know I'm not the original poster but i was in a similar situation to you and now I've just moved to hastings and pay 3x less than what I would have if I lived in London. Now I can finally live on my own. I freelance and work online so I can live anywhere.
What do you do for work? Most young professionals who work in London do jobs that are only viable in London, which is part of the problem.
Now there is loads of jobs in the UK because of brexit
live in cheaper rent. that saves you
I loved this video I can relate to both, I lived in London and moved out and although I have a bigger house for the same price that I paid for a box room in Zone 2 in London I do miss the opportunities and atmosphere that I got back in London. I am considering moving back to London because of the convenience and opportunities that I don't get up North. I think it all depends on what makes you happy in life.
It's true.
There are so many things you can do in London. If you're active, socialise a lot in person then it's a great place to be.
From sports, restaurants, bars and clubs (pre covid anyway) to events.
Older people or people with not many friends could move away without any issues. However if you're socially active then moving away is a bit boring.
That’s the price we have to pay for living and enjoying London.
Exactly, you get a shit living space, but you live outside it more often. The atmosphere and experiences you get in London are unparalleled to anywhere else, that's what you're paying for, and whether or not it's worth it is subjective. For me, I have been telling myself I will move somewhere cheaper, but my heart longs for London
@@Charataee well said
I can see it from both sides. I was born and raised in SE London and moved to the Midlands when I was 26.
Up until that point I thought London was the be all and end all.
At 32 I moved to Hampshire, im 30 mins by train to Waterloo (direct) yet my quality of life has improved 1000%.
I HATE going back to see family because I see London for what it actually is now, an overpriced, over populated shithole.
At 39 with a 7 year old you couldn't pay me to live back in London.
London becomes a security blanket for some, its like they develop Stockholm syndrome.
Yeah... To be fair though i think the experience makes you who your are as well.. Only thing i regret from London years is the amount of drinking and Ecstasy pills.. It completely consumed me.. Scary..i quit drinking as soon as i left😅
You did the right thing - you are much happier.
It’s funny after this lockdown you couldn’t pay me to leave london. My entire life is here, lockdown made me realise I want to be only 10mins away from those I love.
@@DoraWinifred
But thats the thing. You're not staying there because it's London, you're staying there because your family is there.
You need to think, if all your family and friends decided to up sticks and move to say, Cornwall, would you go too? Is it London that's keeping you in London or is it your network?
I’ve travelled far and wide experienced a few places both internationally and within the UK. I can honestly say I still love London and will live here until it’s not longer feasible to do so.
The only other place I would love to live out my days if it’s not London us the rural part of Chiangmai, Thailand.
Yep could defo wake up to the sound of elephants, oxen and monkeys 🐒!
Even if you're making good money and are satisfied, the issue is the average person walking on the street is just scraping a living and that as a whole affects the aura in the city. I visit Gloucestershire regularly and the people are so relaxed and easy going it makes everyone's mood better. You can sit on a bench anywhere and feel completely entertained doing nothing.
How ludicrous. He's spending 15k a year for that, he should get himself a campervan for that price, just as much space and he's not paying the rent to someone else. And now we're in lockdown he would have some semblance of freedom, especially if he's remote working.
And where exactly is he going to put his camper van in London?!?
@@boycieism I don't know London well enough, but I'm sure there are places you can park a van for a lot less than you'd pay rent, or move out of London in the van - when it's all closed anyway I don't imagine there's as much of a draw to it.
@@boycieism gypsy car park thingy?
He should buy an houseboat, even take out an loan to purchase (if required). He must be earning decent money if he can pay that rent on his own. The houseboat would be an asset, your own property so to speak, and resalable. You are your own boss with it then. Better, he spend money on something he will own. Houseboats don't draw much attention on themselves. But if a van is parked on a street, it can draw attention from the residents, and police.
It would be great if he could bring an campervan into Notting hill and live in it. But it would not go unnoticed I suspect. Perhaps, an builder's van with a hardhat, clipboard, and hi Vis vest in view would be more discreet, but would be rumbled too.
As a Londoner, life here is extremely overrated. The guy says at 8:08, "when you're not living in London, there's less to do" which couldn't be further from the truth. When I was in the midlands, the buses were great and it was so easy to get into town where everything you needed was in the city centre. Sure, there are more "trendy" new places that crop up in London on a regular basis, but none of those drastically improve my quality of life. Personally, I get enjoyment from travelling to new places, spending time with those I care about and being able to work on my hobbies/interests, not living 5 minutes away from a bunch of restaurants.
Whenever I've lived outside London I felt as though I was sitting on the side-lines, missing all the new interesting places and things to do. Instead of Eataly or Dishoom you've got some plastic covered 'Bob's Burgers', even high-end places in small cities just feel like a children's knock off. Nothing beats London unless you need many bedrooms for raising a family.
Also this guy is doing it wrong, he could live in other nice parts of London and have much more space. He just wants the 'Notting Hill' label.
It depends what you're looking for and where you're willing to compromise on both cost of living and amenities. I think most cities offer a unique experience. While there is no city like London, obviously, there is also no city like York, and there's definitely no children's knock off feel to it. People also might want a city close to a certain type of countryside and everything that comes with that (e.g. Sheffield and the Peak District).
For my 1750 rent in London I've bought a 4 bed in Manchester on a 15 year mortgage..
£1200 for a prison cell, interesting. I grew up in London but never saw the point of staying with grim rush hour commutes and when the extra pay you earn is more than wiped out by the cost of living. Unless you're on a big 6 figure plus salary it's simply not worth it.
Exactly
He's getting completely mugged off. I live in the Clapham area. Large room and I pay just over 800pcm inc bills. (Live with two friends)
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Yeah he keeps talking about going out and eating out and clubs and bars. He must make a shitload of money to afford rent AND have a life
You don't need much to be happy, just a roof above your head and all of the basic necessities. I'd add that this man isn't using the space as efficiently as possible. A king size bed is just absurd. A Murphy bed or Japanese futon mattress would really open up the space. But not everyone is a dedicated minimalist and this man is representative of most people. More broadly, living in London is a huge plus. There's so much to do. And it's hard to move to a more affordable city when you make friends and appreciate your job.
London needs rent caps like new york
Rent cap??what’s that ?!sounds like a dream for all of us
Rent caps discourage property development, which is London's main issue. Boroughs need to ignore the NIMBYs and relax planning permission.
Fair and good for development but what's the point when people can't afford it
@@mick2867 plenty of studies show rent control decreases supply and reduces the maintenance on rental property. Years of restriction on high rise residential development is the real problem in London.
*It used to have them - until the Rents Act of 1956. It has been said the the first race riots were due to the exploited West Indian settlers. The government of the day made no provision for the influx. Cue: one Peter Rachman, the "slum landlord". He was an associate of the Krays and was bonking Rice Davis and Keeler (but at least he paid them).*
I wonder how he's doing in lockdown...
I suspect he moved out like most people that can move quickly. I did this too, as there is no point wasting money on expensive rent when you cannot do anything in lockdown. Move our to the country and WFH.
@@michaellynn8 Good for you. Are you taking horse riding lessons with the spare cash? :P
It's mental how expensive it is
The rent alone is worth an average French salary.
0:49 when he said "moving through here" I died
Unless you're a big-shot lawyer/banker earning 6 figures then living in London isn't worth it.
So wrong. I make £2000pm, live in zone 2 in a pretty nice place and still save money. Life has been awesome here.
@@TomYeeha For the same salary in the north you would have a studio flat in city centre, a car, and still save £6k a year. You wouldn't be able to achieve the same in London with that income. Most people I know are flat-sharing, commuting by tube, and struggling to save. Don't get me started on the house prices...
@@keiarash5058 I don't need to be right in London city centre, I don't have any use for a car, and I save about £9k a year. Much more during the pandemic.
Also I wouldn't have a job up north. My industry is pretty much exclusively in London.
@@TomYeeha Each to their own. I personally wouldn't want to live as if I never left Uni; in a flat-share with no car. But I will say that saving 9k in London on that salary is remarkable
@@keiarash5058 I only share with my girlfriend, so it's not like I'm sharing with strangers or friends. That is possibly the key to my good situation though.
Other than that I'm a natural frugal person anyway - love cooking cheap meals in bulk, always cycle everywhere, workout at home, love sifting through charity shops for clothes etc. That enables me to save and go on big holidays and basically not restrict my life in other areas. Also my gf has a company car which helps if I do need to use one.
im so glad i left London 5 years ago. as a working student i shared room for 450 :( how sad is that. shared room for 450 once again. in sw18 with 5 other people in 6 bedroom house. London is all fun, but to settle and live there and have actually decent living space its almost impossible....
The problem is , i was born in London , did my entire education in London. Worked part time as a student in London. I just don’t like the idea of moving out to a town that’s dead boring . I’d rather pay the price of living in London
I feel you. Now that I'm a little older and have also been a year in quarantine, I'm definitely interested in other options personally. But I'll still be living in London next year, it's a brilliant city even if you have to struggle a bit to live their. I've struggled in London, new York, and Seattle, (and now live comfortably in LA) and London was the best struggle by far
No, the problem is you're conditioned to think London is the only place that's not boring.
I was born and raised in SE London.
I moved to Nottingham when I was 26 for a relationship and moved to Hampshire when I was 32.
For my job I've travelled and stayed in alot of areas all over the UK and I can honestly say rather than finding other places "boring" it puts into perspective how much London is an over priced shithole
@@clare2401 it’s not even about thinking that other areas are boring.. it’s just the fact that my parents, grandparents and siblings are here, not to mention my friends. Why would I want to move away from them all?
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No idea why you've even tagged me in your comment
@@clare2401 i was replying to what you said :/
there is a middle ground between living in central London (10min. walk away from Hyde Park) and living 1.5 hours away from London... In fact, most of the people are living in that middle.
The guy with the Notting Hill bedsit. I'd get a fold up bed n get a lot more overhead space -cupboards for storage. I like the ladies home a lovely spacious home any home near the beach is a god send.
London housing is mostly a dump unless you have tonnes of income.
For £1.2K you can rent a very big house with pool in Manila. I'm amazed by the amount of money people spend for rent around the world :)
One problem: very few jobs in Manila.
I lived in London in a 1 bed flat and paid £1150 a month without bills. I now live in Italy in a two bed flat with sea view, beach 3 minute walk away, for €350 a month. Would never live in that city again.
I think he’s place is nice . He’s young , proud and on the doorstep of everything people come to visit and see . I’d prefer that space than lower rent and share with people share loo & kitchen. His choice . We all know he could rent a 5 bed house somewhere up north in middle of nowhere but what’s there to do ? His money his choice
As much as I’d love all of the job opportunities and access to venues, I think living outside of London whether it be in the midlands or Yorkshire is possibly the best solution. The pandemic has opened up more opportunities to work remotely, it may not be for everyone but for many it could change the way we live.
No. Many employers in London have now summoned people back to their offices or lose their jobs. I can imagine some just didn't do much work many miles away. Others were getting used to their children at home in work hours during lockdowns & other c19 related issues. Lovely if you can do it but not many can uproot & live carefree.
@@jnorthexactly
Was renting in isle of dogs for £545 p/m. Single bedroom with window, nice view, wardrobe and beside cupboard and all. Watching someone like him talk about how he's got a good thing going made me think I was missing something. But I revert back to calling bullshit.
Used to live in Basildon and commute to City. 35 min one way. 550 quid for mortgage and 2 bed, 2 bathroom apartment right by the station. Did I go out with mates in London? Yes, but always had to be mindful to get the last train.
Home is where you are happy and comfortable.
Everything in London, not just houses, is a RIP off! Poor quality of life!
The first guy paying in London £ 1,200 pcm typical house:
1. Tiny space,
2. No windows,
3. No garden,
4. View from a window is non existent,
5. Too many people crammed living in one house,
6. Lots of noise issue indoor and outdoor ,
7. Neighbours from hell.
Tell that dude not to stack his records in a pile!
Lets be honest, it's only young people that rent these shoe boxes because for them the main priority is being part of the buzz of London and they will live anywhere to achieve that goal. The real problems start 10 - 15 years down the line when the older generation finds that actually nobody is interested in buying houses any more. Generation rent is real, for the first time we have created a generation who's main goal isn't to own property and the impact that will have on the property market once the time comes will be absolutely colossal.
It’s not buzz it’s a job! Outside London it is harder to find work or else you are on a much lower wage. Also not just London with high rents and have to get and run a car out of London which is expensive. When I look at commuter towns from London we are talking 5k for the annual travel by rail.
Actually we're just poor
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If you earn a minimum wage, even the bus fare to your job is a big burden. What a miserable country!
@@oliviaharwood6330 But what's the point if all the money you earn goes on paying rent and you'll never afford to buy any where. You could buy a 2 bedroom house in the East Midlands for £150k. I know lots of people in their early 20's who have done just that and some of them don't even have good jobs, they work in Aldi. You can't do that in London, you CAN do that in Manchester, Bristol, Liverpool and many other UK cities, admittedly it would probably only be a studio flat but it would still be a good start . I'm not telling you how to live your life but as young people you should make a point by moving out of London. If enough people did that, rents would be forced to go down.
@@bluebull399 Not convinced. Just looked up my job in Bristol and my pay would be about 13k less then I get in London ( I would be taking home £800 less a month). Whilst the cost of a studio is only about £200 less a month in Bristol. So I would be losing £600 a month. Though some sectors will be affected differently. My salary is heavily tied to the wages of the people who live near me. Other jobs you are paid the same wherever you are in the country and then it would make more sense to move out to save money.
I love having a look round peoples houses great video
You dont need to go even Margate. In Bedford you can get a 3 bed house with garden for around 1000£ and thameslink connections to central london in less than an hour.
*Don't worry guys I've translated it for you:*
"my bedroom"= a bed
"my attic"= the top cupboard
"my living area"= the end of the bed
The way the guy was storing his records flat , instead of upright,, was giving me heart palpitations
Palpitations?? 🤣🤣what a word
@@lstoryrecords_ Heart palpitations (pal-pih-TAY-shuns) are feelings of having a fast-beating, fluttering or pounding heart. Stress, exercise, medication or, rarely, a medical condition can trigger them... (In this case, the placement of his records :P)
@@chronicfish thanks for explaining...i do know what they are however..its more im surprised of your use of the word in regular convo. That grabbed my attention 😂😂...all good
@@lstoryrecords_ no worries.. it's just that ever since lockdown, I've run out of reading material, so I decided to read the only thing left on my bookshelf... my Oxford Dictionary . .. 😂
@@chronicfish you've ran out of reading material in lockdown???🤔 whoa..you must have a lot of books 😁..you can get books via amazon kindle though that may not be your cup of tea as not everyone is into ebooks..theres an inifinite amount of books there
dude. don't store your vinyls horizontally, they tend to warp over time this way.
Dude, it's vinyl, not vinyls. You have a vinyl collection, not a vinyls collection. You youngsters eh.
@@Stringbean421 let’s use the correct term then. Don’t store your vinyl records horizontally.
@@dominikpavlov791
You got it. 👍
one good thing about the pandemic. You can work a really good job and move to a lovely little village or the country side and get really nice cottage or house and work from home.
Boom!!
Yeh or you can be made redundant
Agreed but its only for now. Come the summer, workplaces will start getting people returning to work. If there is no lockdown over the winter (which I suspect wont happen), we will all be back in an office this time next year. Never underestimate the desire of managers to see their staff at work.
@@michaellynn8
What an insightful comment.
@@jr4893 Then you get another job, could happen regardless...
This is why having affordable, high frequency and reliable trains is necessary is necessary (even if miraculously London does a Singapore and buys all the homes and makes it social housing, waiting lists would be staggeringly long still). Ideally, we should be encouraging work and people move out into towns and other cities, by trying to prioritise video calls and work at home as a permanent thing.
Saying that, no more cars and no more suburbs - we don't need those.
I still "work" in the city but work from home now. So I moved out of the city. Left a small two bed flat costing me £1250 per month and moved out to the suburban countryside. I now have a 3 bedroom house with a front and back garden, a drive way, conservatory and views overlooking the countryside for £800 per month. I'm still close enough to the city to hop on the train and go in when I want, but the quality of life I have gained is next to none. Fresh air, a neighoubourhood where people know and talk to each other, countryside surrounding me. Can't believe I stayed in the city so long. I understand not everyone will have the opportunity I had with wfh, but this is probably one of the only good things that came out of this pandemic.
Where did you moved to if you don't mind me asking?
I have the opportunity to work wfh, but I don't like it. I live alone, don't have too much friends in the UK, so at least seeing my colleagues improve my social life. Also don't like to mix working space with living space.
I love studio flats but I think he would massively benefit from a sofa bed. You can sit on it during the day and have guests and open it up to sleep at night. This would make it much roomier during the day.
I left university 10 years ago. I couldn’t afford anywhere to live and neither could my sister. We choose to live with my parents for 3/4 years, save everything we made and eventually buy together. All my friends laughed at me. They called me a loser for staying at my parents and not moving out earlier. We bought a 2 bed small £350,000 flat just in zone 3. Again, people laughed, called me a loser for both living with my sister, and only living in zone 3 it wasn’t “Proper London”. Now im 32 and me and my sister sold our two bed and bought a 1 bed flat each, with fixed rate 5 year mortgages. I was again, laughed at, my fixed rate mortgage was much more than a variable rate mortgage, and I could still only afford zone 3[almost zone 2, but not quite], variable mortgages are now above 6 percent and people will default. There are a lot of people who can never afford to get on the ladder, those are people I genuinely feel sorry for. But there are a lot of people who vainly blow money stupidly like this guy. He wants to tell people he lives in Notting Hill. Some people want to buy a nice car on credit instead of save. They never take the first step on the ladder, because the first step is always beneath them. Now even the steps I took are out of their reach and frankly they only have themselves to blame. And sorry, these people deserve to rent. There are a lot more people in this category than let on, and I am sick of hearing them moan about it.
Spot on. Those people who say, 'You don't live in proper London', probably mean, 'I'm envious that you have broken free of this trap and are making a proper future for yourself'. These people will end up in their 50s, single, and broke. Still renting. Very sad.
It is crazy expensive that is why we moved back to my country from London few years ago. There is no quality of life there.
Back in 2004, I was looking for a place to move out of (from my parental home).
During my search for a small rental, I saw many properties.
The worst was one in Kensington. It was so small that I doubt that the room would actually fit all my belongings.
There was a kitchen area. But this area was so small it was beyond a joke.
I told the lady showing me around that this is very small and also kitchen facilities were poor.
She was perplexed and asked me what I would cook?
Judging by her response, I think that she buys all her cooked food from outside, readymade. McDonalds and pizza - stuff like that.
This place was about 6 ft wide and about 10 ft long - enough for a single bed and little else.
There was a private bathroom which was about the same size as the room.
Luckily I found a place in Queens Park for £515/month (in 2004) which was significantly larger. I lived there for 2.5 years (I liked living there) and then moved to Harrow in my own place....where I have been living for 15 years.
I grew up in South London and of all the places I have lived, I'd say Harrow is the best, followed by Tooting (South London, where I grew up, went to school, etc).
I've lived in Streatham in 2003 (briefly), which was quite rough (not sure if it's improved). Queens Park did have some dodgy areas, but the road I lived on was a very nice road.
The worst places I have worked were probably Shepherds Bush and Hammersmith. These places are dangerous and the feeling I have when there, is that you are only a minute away from being stabbed or getting involved in a fight. Those are the places I would advise not to live. It just isn't worth the risk.
Another central-ish area is Maida Vale - VERY nice...if you can afford it. If money was not an issue, that's probably where I'd live - Elgin Avenue.
Hampstead (N. London), if you can afford it, is also very nice.
And for those who say North England is crap - you have a lot to learn, my friend. There are some fantastic areas in North England, with stately homes that when you see them, you'd think that only a billionaire could live in. Off the top of my head, in Doncaster, an area called Bentley. Very nice area with some beautiful mansions.
Meanwhile in Yorkshire you can get a big 3 bed with a huge kitchen and living room and a 30m long garden for £700 a month.
Very true. But job prospects are low, it's relatively boring, the weather is shte, and if you don't drive, you are fked! Don't get me wrong, I would never live in London (it's a rip off). But *working* in places like London is good for earning and building up wealth, places like Yorkshire are better for when you mature and want to settle down long term, and have a good standard of life as you head into retirement, etc. (I've lived in both places btw, so although you might not agree, my opinion is based on experience.)
Love the way he tries to convince himself. I hope he awakens.
We rent in London bc we can't buy in London bc we're too poor and the prices are for the rich. The woman in the video would have stayed in London if she could have brought property there. And were blamed for not leaving behind our home, or life, our family and friends, our work? What we do is out of necessity not choice.
£1200 a month . Wtf .
I wouldn't pay nobodys mortgage for them in a million years . I would rather sleep on my mates roof .
He's getting mugged off. Pay at lost less for a bigger room in a flat with two friends.
ikr. You're paying someone's mortgage + profit and you still get treated as you're being done a favour.
Over here in Chippenham £1200 pm would get you a 4 bedroom house, 1 hour 8 mins to London Paddington, 22 mins to Bristol Central.
Mate... he can go get a PROPER and better flat In west london if he steer bit further away from the zone 1 area. And it don’t have to be west london. Like london is quite convenient all over, compare to most places in England. He don’t need to be in rip off area like Notting Hill Gate. Try living in zone 3-6 in London. Areas within zone 1 & 2 is WAY too expensive to live in.
What areas would count as zone 3-6?
Living in the North all my life: Leeds, Manchester and Derbyshire. This just seems bonkers. I've always had things to do and there are always jobs available. I think londoners definitely have a distorted view of the place
I'm considering moving to Yorkshire. Which city has the most BAME?
@@gorgeousprincess332 I think all cities in Yorkshire are becoming more diverse. Living in Leeds and close to Bradford I know they both have large BAME communities. Bradford has a fantastic large Asian community which is pushing the most amazing restaurants that I knew people would travel a good hour or so for. Leeds too has a large Asian community and a large Black population and puts on an amazing West indies carnival in the city each year.
this is also why we have many houses of multiple occupancy exist and people aged late 20s early 30s still living at home with parents,
in fact the houses of multiple occupancy are probably a leading cause of the rental issue as a landlord can rent out rooms for more than an entire property
increasing revenue etc
He's got the voice for documentaries
True.
I'd thought of moving to margate after i graduate, this just seals the deal for me. And it's just 2 hours to london by train
Was thinking the same thing
2 HOURS!!! U wanna waste 2 hours back n forth 4 hours of ur life possibly on a nasty train for a long period of ur life?! London isn't worth that.
Consider going out west, places like Slough/Windsor are an hour to London
Do you know what a season ticket costs? It will easily undo the savings on rent.
@@claireblair6175 That's the point I was just making...