Skyrim: 5 Things They Never Told You About The Thalmor

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  • Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
  • Skyrim is home to numerous factions and possibly the most notorious is the Thalmor. The rulers of the Aldmeri Dominion, the Thalmor are an infamous organization to Elder Scrolls fans, known for their suspicion of Talos and distaste for man, they're one of Skyrim's primary antagonists. Throughout the events of Skyrim, we're constantly at odds with this faction of high elves, however despite all the time we spend battling it out against them, there's still a lot about the Thalmor that The Elder Scrolls 5 doesn't tell us. So today we'll be taking a look at five things you (probably) didn't know about the Thalmor of The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim.
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  • @martijn769
    @martijn769 4 года назад +5682

    The dragonborn: "I can worship anyone I want."
    random thalmor agent: "and so you will die a traitors death!"
    *elven armor (3) added*

    • @suddenrushsarge
      @suddenrushsarge 4 года назад +375

      Aww..... they shit themselves....

    • @rivaraptor4277
      @rivaraptor4277 4 года назад +521

      *Elven armor (2) added*
      *Thalmor robes added*

    • @martijn769
      @martijn769 4 года назад +49

      @@rivaraptor4277 shhhh iknowww ;P

    • @martijn769
      @martijn769 4 года назад +130

      @@suddenrushsarge "just give me whatever, I really need to go!"

    • @joshbrosh6626
      @joshbrosh6626 4 года назад +166

      Thalmor appears
      Me a simple man pulls out wuuthrad 😂

  • @jmoxie
    @jmoxie 4 года назад +3883

    For the 100% of players who just attack thalmor soliders when you see them walking Don't worry you’re perfectly normal

    • @quiet5811
      @quiet5811 4 года назад +76

      ( ꈍᴗꈍ) I just have sex with them ..i am normal too .right?

    • @niko_8208
      @niko_8208 4 года назад +219

      @@quiet5811 You're on thin fucking ice.

    • @dejavu8982
      @dejavu8982 4 года назад +63

      @@niko_8208 doesnt matter, had sex

    • @Thomas_Bergel
      @Thomas_Bergel 4 года назад +38

      Niko _
      I misunterstodd the comment... i thought you were talking about fucking on ice 😅

    • @jmoxie
      @jmoxie 4 года назад +20

      @@dejavu8982 😂 reminded me of deep space 69

  • @boldbearings
    @boldbearings 4 года назад +288

    Esbern in-game says something along the lines of "The Thalmor don't want the world to end anymore than we do....or at least they prefer to end it on their terms..." which is pretty creepy.

    • @jstar3382
      @jstar3382 Год назад +9

      I mean, that's theorized to be the true goal of the Thalmor. Take all the towers and then shatter them at once hoping to collapse Aurbis

    • @ereynolds72
      @ereynolds72 Год назад +6

      @@jstar3382that is proven nonsense peddled by one guy

    • @ThreadBareHope1234
      @ThreadBareHope1234 23 дня назад +2

      It looks that way.
      And I was actually under the impression that they wanted to hasten the inevitable because the also were (originally) motivated by desperation or shame. I thought they wanted to unity Tamriel or get rid of presumed blasphemers to be worthy of being god like again (mortality is a curse/trick, in their religion). Or to bring back their promised land, Aldmeris. But no, they're just hateful. I hope this book is just the author's perspective. Ain't no way the Aldmeri Dominion never had normal motivations

    • @boldbearings
      @boldbearings 23 дня назад

      @@jstar3382 To regain their true immortality in the pre-time reality?

    • @boldbearings
      @boldbearings 23 дня назад

      @@ereynolds72 Who, how?

  • @MrCarpelan
    @MrCarpelan 4 года назад +555

    Rest in peace to Esbern's voice actor Max von Sydow.

  • @NotRelated2Ryne
    @NotRelated2Ryne 4 года назад +1834

    “Summerset Supremacist” sounds like if a high elf was also a WWE star

    • @MrLeopoldho
      @MrLeopoldho 4 года назад +79

      Dragonborn, Archmage, Listener, Harbinger of the Companions... WWE Champion...

    • @headecas
      @headecas 4 года назад +74

      His finisher is of course sumersault isles

    • @travislee4588
      @travislee4588 4 года назад +17

      Aaaaand our Chaaallenger weighing 105lbs The Summerset Chaaaampion!!!!

    • @matteusgreyling7074
      @matteusgreyling7074 4 года назад +6

      For a moment I thought you were gonna reference ww2 and Senór Hitler

    • @leepreston9637
      @leepreston9637 3 года назад +2

      @Jimmy Jazz what's wrong with Zionist Jews?

  • @Thoroughly_Wet
    @Thoroughly_Wet 4 года назад +2175

    "Desbern and Eelphine" 17:48
    Eat your cereal

    • @KellingtonDorkswafer
      @KellingtonDorkswafer 4 года назад +60

      EELphine?!

    • @quiet5811
      @quiet5811 4 года назад +12

      (・o・)

    • @MonstobLee
      @MonstobLee 4 года назад +116

      came to comment this. i see others noticed. every time he said esbern and delphine thats all i could hear for the rest of the episode. desbern and elphine

    • @daltonsimmerock5999
      @daltonsimmerock5999 4 года назад +12

      @@MonstobLee same here😂

    • @whenthemusicsover6028
      @whenthemusicsover6028 4 года назад +7

      @Thoroughly Wet Glad I'm not the only one who caught this. :)

  • @GoblinLord
    @GoblinLord 3 года назад +140

    I find it funny how the Thalmor had the sacrifice to get Daedra plan, because it kinda proves how insufficient their forces were, considering not only would they need the help of Oblivion , but they also used a Daedric Artifact to do so well in the first place, considering their usage of the Orb of Vaermina, which basically allowed them to know all imperial troop movements

    • @h2oallegation
      @h2oallegation Год назад +14

      After them not using it, the reguard and legion destroyed them in Hammerfall, and of course, the legion destroyed them in the main battle at the imperial city. Their biggest armies, had the empire kept going, they most likely would have won and drove to back to their island.

    • @nyalan8385
      @nyalan8385 Год назад +1

      @@h2oallegation elves stay losing

    • @komiks42
      @komiks42 Год назад +7

      I think their bigest weakness is pride. They underestimate their enemies, and think that they are better race.
      You know, ther is one historicial figure that did something like this.

    • @xembones
      @xembones Год назад +1

      @@komiks42 biologically speaking they are the superior race due to their ancestral relations to the aedra

    • @AlbinoMothDragon
      @AlbinoMothDragon Год назад +7

      ​@@xembonesthe Aylieds thought the same until Pelinal Whitestrake waltzed in and drove the entire race to extinction.

  • @RaikouSonzai
    @RaikouSonzai 4 года назад +189

    "We see the penitus occulatus as antagonists through the lens of the dark brotherhood" gee I wonder why assassins that serve a satan-death angel of the void would be against heroes who try to keep people alive at all costs.

    • @ronnyyako4352
      @ronnyyako4352 3 года назад +34

      It's crazy how we see commander Maro as such a terrible guy but really we were attempting to assassinate his emperor while also killing his son in the process. All he wanted was to keep the people he loved alive.

    • @caninelupus8369
      @caninelupus8369 3 года назад +7

      Antagonist, not villain.

    • @sparkeyjames
      @sparkeyjames 2 года назад +3

      Yes they keep people alive at all cost except lone travelers who have done no wrong those they send to the headsmans axe.

    • @RaikouSonzai
      @RaikouSonzai 2 года назад +10

      @@sparkeyjames yeh why not, I was bored. That was the imperial army. P.O. is a specific thing special for the emperor. We're talking military service vs secret service here. Just because one general in the army made the call to keep a likely innocent for the firing squad wouldn't put the president's bodyguard at guilt. Git gud.

    • @hidan407
      @hidan407 2 года назад +2

      Hmmmm that brings up the question, how come The Dark brotherhood didnt assassinate targets thats Thalmor?
      Pretty much everyone and their mothers hate the thalmor. Its surprising that they never attempted to help out during the war by actually assassinating real targets for a change and not some petty murder.

  • @lukaberisavac8748
    @lukaberisavac8748 4 года назад +808

    Last time i was this early Uriel Septim was still the Emperor.

    • @metetural9140
      @metetural9140 4 года назад +14

      Which Uriel? There's been seven...

    • @KellingtonDorkswafer
      @KellingtonDorkswafer 4 года назад +14

      @@metetural9140 All of them

    • @spiderz5145
      @spiderz5145 4 года назад +2

      Reman*

    • @Mr-Money01
      @Mr-Money01 4 года назад +4

      Hail Uriel Septim! And Martin Septim! And Talosl
      And why not Palagious the Mad because we need some crazy people.

    • @dorianrobinette9712
      @dorianrobinette9712 4 года назад +1

      Ah yes. Back when the empire was still cool.

  • @totallynotmozziesaccount8506
    @totallynotmozziesaccount8506 4 года назад +1313

    In TES6, I want the bards to sing songs about the Dovahkiin

    • @halo1989100
      @halo1989100 4 года назад +53

      Dovahkiin.

    • @totallynotmozziesaccount8506
      @totallynotmozziesaccount8506 4 года назад +36

      @@halo1989100 Thanks for the correction

    • @shadrawand4864
      @shadrawand4864 4 года назад +9

      they do

    • @Femaiden
      @Femaiden 4 года назад +93

      given that the bards of skyrim only know 3 songs...and it takes an entire course of study at the college to learn them...

    • @Carl-gx7lt
      @Carl-gx7lt 4 года назад +80

      @@FemaidenThe bards actually sing 5 songs (though it's still not very impressive...):
      Ragnar the Red
      The Dragonborn Comes
      The Age of Oppression
      The Age of Agression
      Tale of Tongues (which is only available after completing the main questline)
      Then there is an additional song which has been partly lost in time:
      "The Ancient Song" or "Song of the Dragonborn"(the one that begins with "Dovahkiin, Dovahkiin, Naal ok zin los vahriin.)

  • @countzrathknock6737
    @countzrathknock6737 2 года назад +67

    During that embassy mission. I was a High elf and my whole gimmick was I was a Thalmor Dragonborn who sided with Ulric just to cause instability in Skyrim. And I walked around most of the game in Thalmor robes. I didn't realize it was because of the robes I got the guard to Leave his post outside the Solar; That's kind of cool.

    • @countzrathknock6737
      @countzrathknock6737 2 года назад +12

      My entire Playthrough was to piss off my brother who Told me how much he loves the Stormcloaks and hated the Thalmor at length before I played the game. So I figured it would be fun to roleplay it. He and most of our friends were not amused.

    • @moozie4195
      @moozie4195 Год назад +5

      @@countzrathknock6737 and then everyone started clapping

    • @luciannamagnotta3053
      @luciannamagnotta3053 11 месяцев назад

      I used to do the same thing but I was a dark elf and joined Ulfric just to cause instability

    • @georgemurdock7670
      @georgemurdock7670 7 месяцев назад

      @@luciannamagnotta3053you know the nords and the empire in general thrives on instability? Biggest heros where always born out such times. The sword singer - yakudan civil war. 500 companions - atmoran civil war. Pelinal - nedic rebellion. Tiber septim - interregnum.
      Btw, what classified them as heros was the genocides on elvenkind they all carried out. So new instability - new hero - they will remember who caused instability - new genocide

  • @brentd2940
    @brentd2940 3 года назад +75

    The Thamor remind me of the Enclave from FO2. They both want to wipe out a certain people to replace them. Both have armies who look very evil. And both wants to take over a large amount of land.
    The only thing the Thamor is missing is the charm the Enclave has.

    • @xenthon8160
      @xenthon8160 Год назад +2

      Yep.

    • @razofdead
      @razofdead 8 месяцев назад

      I hope skyrim 6 give the charm neccesary maybe with big budget on magic, enchament, potions, experiments…
      Like summon daedra or making pacts to Daedra for example making deal with Daedra Lord or with Mallacath (try to get back his Trinnimac state, plus if they win him he can turn orcs to support Aldmeri dominion…

    • @judeaberdeen6848
      @judeaberdeen6848 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@razofdeadYour hopes are too high. Remember to keep them very low so you won't be disappointed

  • @Cru128
    @Cru128 4 года назад +1953

    Dragonborn: Defeats entire armies with their thu'um, a civil war champion, the person who KILLED Alduin.
    Bandits: Yo let's go get this guy.

    • @thewewguy8t88
      @thewewguy8t88 4 года назад +78

      hey to be fair it took me an hour with a lot of saving dying to kill 3 bandits on legendary once.

    • @muninrob
      @muninrob 4 года назад +126

      Let me fix that for you...
      Dragonborn: conquers every faction in skyrim
      Bandit 1: "LET'S MUG"EM!!"
      Bandit 2: "That's the legendary dragon born..."
      Bandit 1: "Uh-huh, u-huh, let's MUG'EM"

    • @Cru128
      @Cru128 4 года назад +8

      Bruh.

    • @williamseib7432
      @williamseib7432 4 года назад +131

      Dragonborn: becomes Archmage, listener of the dark brother hood. Civil war hero. Thane of whiterun. Defeater of Alduin the world eater. The dragonborn whom the greybeards summoned.
      Vilkas: "I've never even heard of this outsider."

    • @Evionne
      @Evionne 4 года назад +20

      Dragonborn: Ah shit, here we go again

  • @Grabnok
    @Grabnok 4 года назад +176

    “Normally you’d have to fight your way through said courtyard”
    *EXCLUSIVE FOOTAGE OF A STREAKING DRAGONBORN*

  • @austinhealey2148
    @austinhealey2148 4 года назад +213

    Wow! I'm playing as a high elf, I wish I had known about wearing the Thalmor outfit during that quest. That was a huge battle. I hate the Thalmor, whenever I see them on the roads with a prisoner I start an argument with them so they attack me. Then I kill them all and then let the prisoner go free. The Thalmor also send assignation squads after me. I kill them too.

    • @r3apergamer539
      @r3apergamer539 4 года назад +5

      I typically kill the prisoner too for fun

    • @messler5636
      @messler5636 2 года назад +5

      You should kill the prisioners too along with those thalmor dogs altmer brother they are stormcloak scum!

    • @killertruth186
      @killertruth186 2 года назад +11

      "Assignation"

    • @talonshadowscale4519
      @talonshadowscale4519 2 года назад +5

      As head of the Shadowscale Clan and leader of the Dark Brotherhood, I refused that contract.

    • @etain21918
      @etain21918 Год назад +4

      It had been a long time since I did it on my first high elf game and pretty sure I did the same
      The second high elf game I've done I just went sneaky wear their clothes and stuff didn't even realise the option I ran away from a guard saying SHE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE thinking I'd get attacked nope 😂

  • @viziolerix
    @viziolerix Год назад +39

    5:42 "So they ultimately suffered a grave defeat"
    *meanwhile a thalmor soldier ascends to sovngarde in the background*

  • @ReikoAyanamiCh
    @ReikoAyanamiCh 4 года назад +482

    "Desbern and Elphine."
    Nice, Nate.

    • @scottkendrix6231
      @scottkendrix6231 4 года назад +16

      I came to the comments to see if anyone else caught and commented on that.

    • @siriseon2659
      @siriseon2659 4 года назад +8

      @@scottkendrix6231 Same hahaha i thought i was the only one

    • @Femaiden
      @Femaiden 4 года назад +10

      lol, i was about to comment...17:48

    • @komodoking8711
      @komodoking8711 4 года назад +2

      Lol

  • @finarfin1989
    @finarfin1989 4 года назад +1546

    "In Skyrim we see Penitus Oculatus as antagonists, but are actually the good guys"
    Yes, because someone who oppose a guild of assassin should be perceived as bad xD

    • @Misanthropolis
      @Misanthropolis 4 года назад +28

      Exactly.

    • @HzizsVynryn
      @HzizsVynryn 4 года назад +71

      They killed a lot of cool dudes in the Brotherhood.

    • @TuIdiota
      @TuIdiota 4 года назад +194

      Antagonist just means opposed to the protagonist. So yes, given how the dragonborn is the protagonist, the penitus oculatus are clearly the antagonist

    • @thievinglittlegoblin404
      @thievinglittlegoblin404 4 года назад +62

      @@HzizsVynryn ah yes, vezeera the cold blooded killer, or the failed companion arbjorn who has the taste of blood

    • @moringrey7981
      @moringrey7981 4 года назад +30

      When I do good guy dragon born I help comander marro

  • @LeonardAndHisBiscuit
    @LeonardAndHisBiscuit 4 года назад +136

    To note: The Dominion army in Hammerfell was, at the same time the host in Cyrodiil was being annihilated, being driven back and suffering defeat after defeat by the Legion and redguards there. These two armies were the largest the Dominion had at the time, and the defeat of both was very crippling to the group as a whole. Had the Empire continued the war, it would have ended in either the Dominion's defeat entirely, or at least a retreat back to and being held within the Summerset Isle by the Imperial navy.

    • @Masitu0031
      @Masitu0031 Год назад +25

      Dominion still had armies in Elsweyr and Valenwood, which borders Cyrodiil. Meanwhile, Legionnaire contingents from Cyrodiil, Hammerfell, and Skyrim were tired and bloodied.
      Sure, the war can go either way. But Titus Mede II knows limit of his forces, so he pulled out when he was ahead. It is your choice to judge him as being cowardly or cautious.

    • @svenrio8521
      @svenrio8521 Год назад +16

      @@Masitu0031 It was also implied the Imperial economy wasn't doing too well, with most of the treasury being drained of gold to fund the war effort.

    • @Masitu0031
      @Masitu0031 Год назад +3

      ​@@svenrio8521 at, Great War, 30 years before or at the time of Skyrim (4E 201)? Leonard and I talked about the time of Great War. While, military heavily burden treasury is post GW thing.

    • @marsfreelander5969
      @marsfreelander5969 Год назад +2

      "When the empire surrendered they shamed us all..."

    • @GenericUsername-qp1ww
      @GenericUsername-qp1ww Год назад +3

      Even more proof how cowardly the pathetic Mede Empire is

  • @MrMathGames
    @MrMathGames 4 года назад +49

    Item #2: While the games never really spell out what the Thalmor are after, there are a lot of in-game books that offer some interesting hints. In particular, books on religion and the Divines have lots of information about the differences between Men and Mer outlooks. Basically, in the time before the Elder Scrolls world (Nirn) existed, all the mortal races were free spirits that danced and flew around Aetherius. When Nirn was created, the spirits were tied to mortal bodies and thrown into the world. The races of Men think this was a blessing and want to protect Nirn, while the races of Mer think this was a horrible joke and want to return to the spirit-existence they used to have.
    Long story short, the Thalmor are religious extremists who want to literally end Nirn and return all of existence to the spirit world that once was. And that statement about how they will win in the end is actually well-supported. The end of the main quest lines in both E.S. 2 Daggerfall and E.S. 3 Morowind each involved one of the pillars holding the mortal world in place: Numidium and the Heart of Lorkahn respectively. And in Morowind, the Heart of Lorkahn was actually destroyed. One of the pillars holding the mortal realm in place was *actually destroyed*.
    And then there's Parthunaax, the leader of the Greybeards, oldest living dragon, Avatar of Akatosh himself, etc. When you meet him for the first time in Skyrim, he sort of halfway scolds you about trying to prevent the end of the world. He lectures you about how some day, Nirn will have to die to make way for the next world that will be born. And if there's one thing you can count on from an immortal child of the God of Time himself, it's understanding about how the world will end.
    In the end, it seems that even if the Thalmor themselves are smashed and stamped out, eventually the end of the world will come anyway. They will get what they want, even if they themselves aren't the architects of it.

    • @brianschwarm8267
      @brianschwarm8267 Год назад +4

      Look at Alduins wall too, there’s a whole prophecy on it similar to the detailed you just laid out.

  • @rivaraptor4277
    @rivaraptor4277 4 года назад +789

    I would’ve never gotten rich in skyrim if it weren’t for all those Thalmor I killed. Best XP and septim farms in the game

    • @wisemankugelmemicus1701
      @wisemankugelmemicus1701 4 года назад +41

      After Dawnguard you can sell each Elder Scroll to Dexion for 6000 gold. Because of that I'm over 10k gold and under Level 20. It's a nice bonus.

    • @niceguy6751
      @niceguy6751 4 года назад +37

      @@wisemankugelmemicus1701 iron dagger with banish daedra enchantment use petty soul gems and the restocking exploit and you'll be richer than that

    • @thewewguy8t88
      @thewewguy8t88 4 года назад +11

      @@wisemankugelmemicus1701 i am currently like 138 and have over 692k currently :)

    • @thewewguy8t88
      @thewewguy8t88 4 года назад +3

      @@niceguy6751 with all the soul gems i collect i do not even need to use any explot to get over well 200-300 dagers (granted i build up so much stamima)

    • @writer5790
      @writer5790 4 года назад +17

      Player.additem f 99999999

  • @virdamofromko-metru1161
    @virdamofromko-metru1161 4 года назад +493

    "When empire struck back"
    "Things *THEY* wouldn't tell you about Thalmor"
    Coincidence?
    Oh, I don't think so.

    • @REvoLverj98
      @REvoLverj98 4 года назад +15

      Sky Wars

    • @intensellylit4100
      @intensellylit4100 4 года назад +3

      @@REvoLverj98 big downgrade form space.

    • @moringrey7981
      @moringrey7981 4 года назад +1

      The empire strikes back*

    • @AllanElMelon1043
      @AllanElMelon1043 4 года назад +5

      Its not a story the elder scrolls would tell you. Its an old dragonborn legend.

    • @virdamofromko-metru1161
      @virdamofromko-metru1161 4 года назад +9

      Miraak was a Dragonborn, so powerful and so wise he could use Shouts to influence the Thu'um to create life...

  • @Kazuma11290
    @Kazuma11290 4 года назад +47

    I tried that disguise thing in the embassy on my first playthrough as a dark elf. They immediately caught me even from across an entire hallway. So unless you are specifically an altmer, that strategy is effectively useless. I honestly doubt the idea has any effect at all aside from that.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Год назад +10

      Which is sad. If Skyrim was a bit deeper, it would allow members of the other elven races to do a speech check. "Oh, I'm part of a mer exchange program. You know, learn things, ban false gods, all that stuff"

    • @Kazuma11290
      @Kazuma11290 Год назад +5

      @@HappyBeezerStudios If they were deep, disguising yourself would be a spell and doing speech checks to progress would be a normal play style.

  • @ocefloww
    @ocefloww 3 года назад +32

    "In the end, they're going to win"
    Me with all the best items and level 150: Oh I don't think so.

    • @NordicTobz
      @NordicTobz 2 года назад +2

      and the ability to call a dragon to play the role of CAS ( close air support )

    • @Yuki_Ika7
      @Yuki_Ika7 Год назад

      I am a warrior for the Empire first, and I will never side with the Stormcloaks!!!!

    • @GenericUsername-qp1ww
      @GenericUsername-qp1ww Год назад

      @@Yuki_Ika7 guess u enjoy dropping your pants and bending over for the Dominion eh? To each their own...

  • @RyaGnera
    @RyaGnera 4 года назад +1158

    Nate: “The struggle could’ve gone much worse for the empire if the thalmor exécuted a certain plan.”
    Me: Order 66?👀

    • @GlennSkywalker2305
      @GlennSkywalker2305 4 года назад +6

      Empire of Broken Bones yes my lord

    • @RyaGnera
      @RyaGnera 4 года назад +1

      Zgm 2305 😂💀

    • @bam840
      @bam840 4 года назад +30

      that’s exactly what i thought! Especially after he said “the empire struck back” like 4 times lol

    • @GlennSkywalker2305
      @GlennSkywalker2305 4 года назад +1

      Empire of Broken Bones killed every follower

    • @ritapesina345
      @ritapesina345 4 года назад +3

      And when The empire strikes back lol

  • @strongside4565
    @strongside4565 4 года назад +97

    I remain pretty convinced that the final dragon mask, whose name translates to "warlord" was intended as the prize for a dragonborn recruited into the ranks of the dragon cult. Since that scenario would mean that the only being capable of truly killing a dragon would be fighting with them, the world would have been forced to bow the knee to the dragon cult. However, the dragon cult never got a chance to reward said mask and crumbled in absence of a dragonborn.

    • @duplicitouscanadian3073
      @duplicitouscanadian3073 Год назад +3

      And then crumbled in the presence of one as well 😂

    • @lilymackie8179
      @lilymackie8179 11 месяцев назад +3

      Didn’t work out for the first Dragonborn either 😂

  • @ktge5050
    @ktge5050 4 года назад +23

    The interesting thing to me about the Great War and the time Skyrim takes place is that since mer live so much longer than men most of the men who fought on the imperial side of the war are older and likely retired from soldiering but there’s a good chance any Thalmor agent you encounter in Skyrim took part in the war and killed many of the relatives of the people of Skyrim. 30 years ain’t nothin for an Altmer

  • @TheyWillKnowAnother
    @TheyWillKnowAnother 4 года назад +358

    As a High Elf myself, I would like to clarify that not all of us support the Thalmor

    • @jeshcar
      @jeshcar 2 года назад +26

      Ah yes. The High Elf soldier from The Rift

    • @migzy4704
      @migzy4704 2 года назад +30

      As long as you don't wear Thalmor armor. I won't attack you randomly.

    • @etain21918
      @etain21918 Год назад +12

      As a high elf, I don't support the thalmor... All the time... Daedra for life

    • @Yuki_Ika7
      @Yuki_Ika7 Год назад +8

      No worries, I am not against all High elves, just the Thalmor

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Год назад +15

      As a high elf who is fighting to get Ulfric his rightful kingship, I support this message

  •  4 года назад +201

    What happened:
    Me: *kills dragon*
    Me *gets attacked by thalmor*
    Me: *shouts them*
    Thalmor: *still fights me*

    • @beingweirdisnormal1404
      @beingweirdisnormal1404 4 года назад +21

      I used bend will on a legendary dragon while encountering some thalmor, in front of them, and then took off on his back.
      Oh yeah, then commanded he kills them with me
      Me & legendary dragon: 1
      Thalmor: 0

    • @Mr.KittensAndGibberish
      @Mr.KittensAndGibberish 3 года назад

      @@beingweirdisnormal1404 Thalmor: *Dead

    • @robertjethrogallano1053
      @robertjethrogallano1053 2 года назад +1

      As for me i had a fun experience
      Me: just finished volkihar main questline
      *im a blood starved vampire already
      Thalmor troops i passed by: YOU WILL DIE
      Me: transformed into vampire lord form
      Also me: got nice amount of gold and some elven armor XD

    • @izakireemsi2783
      @izakireemsi2783 2 года назад +1

      *Shouts them next to a cliff*

  • @felixc543
    @felixc543 4 года назад +318

    First time I played Skyrim, I didn't realize the Thalmor and the Empire were different entities altogether because they always seemed so connected and i took my sweet time getting to the main questline
    I of course realize now that the Thalmor really just wanted to extend the Civil War as long as possible and they had a shaky truce with the Imperial Legion, but at the time it seemed like they were a close ally and this misunderstanding made me really dislike the Imperials at first.

    • @franzfl
      @franzfl 4 года назад +7

      Same happened for ESO, (The youtubwr guy, Danny.) but he's still stuck with that viewpoint.

    • @Aethuviel
      @Aethuviel 4 года назад +36

      That's nothing. It took me a while to tell the difference between "Thalmor" and "Falmer" (I had no subtitles).

    • @SereneHaze6213
      @SereneHaze6213 4 года назад +40

      I found the Thalmor Dossier on Ulfric, how he was their dormant asset etc, and yes their goal was just to prolong the war and weaken the empire from the inside. Not to mention the blatant proof that Ulfric is racist towards other races, and it just so happens i play an argonian mage, so yea, to hell with ulfric and his stormcloak.
      He's no different from that Madanach douche.
      Always sided with the empire from that moment on.

    • @dorianrobinette9712
      @dorianrobinette9712 4 года назад +26

      There's no blatant proof ulfric is racist. Sure he probably doesn't love other races as much as the nords, but he'll accept you and respect you no matter what race you are.

    • @oldtimergaming9514
      @oldtimergaming9514 4 года назад +7

      @@SereneHaze6213 Yawn, racist, game, yawn.

  • @johnathanrichardson
    @johnathanrichardson 4 года назад +75

    first time i saw valmir i took one look at him, said "no elf is gonna be wearing that (stormcloak) armor" and then immediately killed him.
    i suppose they didnt count on a lunatic cat with the soul of a dragon being puppeted by someone who really dosnt need an excuse to stab an elf

    • @NordicTobz
      @NordicTobz 2 года назад +3

      In my werewolf playthrough I loved to rip apart any thalmor( or elf ) to pieces. Just gave me a sense of wonderful satisfaction xD

    • @creativecraving
      @creativecraving Год назад +3

      Racists! We woodland elves want as little to do with the Thalmor as you do! 😂

  • @tarvoc746
    @tarvoc746 4 года назад +32

    "What [Michael Kirkbride] said may not be 100% canon." Or 50%. Or 20%. Or 10%. Kirkbride's post-Bethesda TES writing is the Elder Scrolls equivalent of theorizing about Roswell UFOs. Incidentally, it actually does contain UFOs. And genocidal cyborgs, and space warfare, and time travel technology. No, I'm not kidding. It actually is _that_ nutty.

    • @Keithjustkeithwastaken
      @Keithjustkeithwastaken 4 года назад +1

      You mean actually is that good and not just the Lord of the rings

    • @tarvoc746
      @tarvoc746 4 года назад +1

      @@Keithjustkeithwastaken If you mean that Lord of the Rings is good because it's not that, then yes. Not sure what Lord of the Rings has to do with Elder Scrolls though. If you want to make such comparisons, Elder Scrolls is closer in style to Conan of Cimmeria than to Lord of the Rings.

  • @Iguana5k
    @Iguana5k 4 года назад +128

    I was kinda pissed that you cant actively fight and defeat them in Skyrim.
    So I snuck into their headquarter in Solitude, emptyed all my garbage out of my inventory and unrelenting forced the pile for them to clean up.
    Also killed every thalmor I saw on the road.

    • @vinhashikatapham3804
      @vinhashikatapham3804 2 года назад

      jusst like me bro respect we don't care about prisoners but slaughter all the thalmor true dovahkin

    • @LendriMujina
      @LendriMujina Год назад +6

      "Enjoy sweeping up all those wooden bowls, bloody linen wraps, and embalming tools. That is, if your framerate with all this garbage (besides yourselves) around lets you."

    • @mariosmatzoros3553
      @mariosmatzoros3553 Год назад +3

      How can you "defeat" them? They're from the summerset isles , not from Skyrim, even if you could kill all of them in Skyrim, they would just send more.

    • @marsfreelander5969
      @marsfreelander5969 Год назад +1

      Nernroot: 9001 removed

    • @Iguana5k
      @Iguana5k Год назад +2

      @@mariosmatzoros3553 Good point. Well defeating them might be a too ambicious goal (they might be important for the next game that will come in 2050 or so xD).
      But more quest to actively mess with them would have been nice. Like overtake their prison and the thalmor embassy when siding with the stormcloaks. Yeah they are still in the summerset isles and they will plan to take over again. But what bugs me is that when you side with the stormcloaks and win the war, they are still around like before without being percecuted in skyrim.

  • @BL4NK.F4C3
    @BL4NK.F4C3 4 года назад +144

    Nate: *Appears in my notifications*
    Me: "A surprise to be sure but a welcome one."

  • @briandipierro8865
    @briandipierro8865 4 года назад +13

    Nate: "I'm pretty sure I'm towards my final days now, though--"
    Damn that got dark

  • @ehizellbob6091
    @ehizellbob6091 4 года назад +23

    Already knew about the courtyard bit as a high elf, but I managed it as a dark elf character once too - when they saw me they said something like "wait, you there, show me your face" but I was quick enough to not get stopped by them and they didn't give chase or turn hostile or anything. Thought it was pretty neat.

    • @brianschwarm8267
      @brianschwarm8267 Год назад

      Exact same thing happens to me as a Breton in thalmor garb when I disguised myself.

  • @darklight645_
    @darklight645_ 4 года назад +140

    3:00 Elder Scrolls Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

    • @ze.3789
      @ze.3789 4 года назад +3

      struck

    • @TranscendentLion
      @TranscendentLion 3 года назад +4

      Episode VI: Return of the Septims?

    • @TheOnyxSpy
      @TheOnyxSpy 2 года назад +2

      @@TranscendentLion If we're to take what Todd Howard said about the possible story of TES V before they went with what we got, I wouldn't be surprised 🤔

  • @thedeekabides
    @thedeekabides 4 года назад +421

    Altmer may be High Elves, but Dunmer have the red eyes. Just sayin'

    • @stevenseagal9911
      @stevenseagal9911 4 года назад +8

      😂 underrated

    • @toritopihuas
      @toritopihuas 4 года назад +1

      I gots em too!! Jaja

    • @JoylessBurrito
      @JoylessBurrito 4 года назад +10

      Can confirm, am dank elf

    • @NiCoNiCoNiCola
      @NiCoNiCoNiCola 4 года назад +3

      Khajiits also kind of related to elves, they have tall khajiits that should be shorly called "high khajiits", they also can have red eyes, so they are thr highest beings in Tamriel. Maybe in whole Nirn

    • @JoylessBurrito
      @JoylessBurrito 4 года назад +2

      Nikolo Kavacio yeah, they did kinda invent skooma

  • @TheMusicalMedic
    @TheMusicalMedic 4 года назад +8

    As a breton, I tried to wear thalmor robes and failed miserably, they recognized that I wasnt one of them instantly.

  • @Tabby3456
    @Tabby3456 4 года назад +14

    The Epic Nate: The elves are secondary antagonists, though the main questline
    Me who already killed alduin: *L I A R* !

  • @waddle_plop
    @waddle_plop 4 года назад +265

    “However, The Elder Scrolls: Legends seems to have revealed the truth:”
    [dramatic pause]
    T.J.Maxx ad.

    • @misterturkturkle
      @misterturkturkle 4 года назад +1

      LoL its 2020
      No one gets ads anymore

    • @hr473
      @hr473 4 года назад +1

      @@misterturkturkle Ad Blocker?

    • @misterturkturkle
      @misterturkturkle 4 года назад

      @@hr473 .... yt premium?

    • @gigaswardblade7261
      @gigaswardblade7261 4 года назад +4

      I got bud light commercial
      Ps phone users still get ads

    • @misterturkturkle
      @misterturkturkle 4 года назад +1

      @@gigaswardblade7261 i havent gotten one in like 6 months

  • @GCJACK83
    @GCJACK83 4 года назад +68

    Listening to this video, something that we do in Skyrim now makes sense. I doubt Motierre was smart enough on his own to set into motion the assassination of the emperor. Someone must have put the idea into his head somehow. Maybe the Thalmor. Because as part of the build-up to his assassination we have to murder the son of the head of the Penitus Oculatus. Then at the end, we kill said head in revenge for his messing with the player character. The Thalmor is the only group that benefits from dismantling the P.O. Thalmor gives Motierrer the idea, sits back and watches as he sets everything in motion, they don't really get their hands dirty in the whole mess.

    • @Chicanery_Artifice
      @Chicanery_Artifice 4 года назад +13

      i would say any faction not allied with the empire would benefit from the p.o being wiped out, not only the thalmor.

    • @deadxdreadxpunk6091
      @deadxdreadxpunk6091 2 года назад

      I always had a sneaking suspicion that the hit Motierre ordered was also orchestrated by the Thalmor as well, he was just a puppet for them

    • @dasik84
      @dasik84 6 месяцев назад

      It was the Emperor himself.

  • @TAndRDInSpace
    @TAndRDInSpace 3 года назад +10

    11:21 I heard that wearing Thalmor rob red s during Diplomatic Immunity only works if your character is high elf or wood elf. My Nord got attacked while wearing the robes.

    • @justnoob8141
      @justnoob8141 2 года назад +1

      I once did it recently, Thalmor Soldier doesn’t immediately attack, he just screaming you to get closer, which I did with greatsword

  • @christora1898
    @christora1898 Год назад +2

    It’s simply amazing how far Nate has come on yt it’s crazy to think I remember watching when he had 10k subs, proof that hard work and dedication does pay off

  • @nerfspartanEBF25
    @nerfspartanEBF25 4 года назад +250

    "Thalmor" is a pretty interesting way to misspell "dead" and "trash".

    • @Vulpine407
      @Vulpine407 4 года назад +24

      So true! When I encounter a squad leading a prisoner I always mouth off to them (usually the "You got me, I'm a Talos worshiper" response.) Then I back off a few paces so that the prisoner has a chance to move out of the way. Fus Roh Dah! Then I walk forward, cleave the 1st one from head to groin before they can get up. Let the remaining Thalmor recover and rush towards me. Rinse and repeat.
      Two hours later at Belathor's General Goods...
      Me: "Hey Bel, got some more Thalmor stuff for you."
      Belathor: "I told you to stop calling me "Bel", and I can't take any more Thalmor robes and armor. I already have a storeroom full of the stuff."
      Me: (puts on mask of Clavicus Vile) "Give me 900 gold for this."
      Belathor: "....Seems legit."

    • @valendrien6517
      @valendrien6517 4 года назад +7

      Talos is a funny way to spell "low life"

    • @Vulpine407
      @Vulpine407 4 года назад +3

      @@valendrien6517 Actually, there is some truth to that. You have to read a lot of the in-game books to start getting a more rounded picture of what Talos aka Tiber Septim aka Hjalti Early-Beard (yes, before he changed his name to Tiber Septim, that was his name.) There's a lot of argument in the books about what Tiber did or did not do, but it seems there is a lot of documentary and testimonial evidence (but very little demonstrative evidence) that Tiber Septim may have been guilty of quite a few crimes including assassinating his former king (and then becoming emperor with him out of the way) and an illicit affair with a Dunmer princess (Barenziah.) Of course, Skyrim gives you evidence for and against these crimes (and others) so no matter how deep you dig, there is no absolute proof. Still, if he did do some of the crimes he was accused of then, yeah, he was definitely being a low-life at times.

    • @thegreatcheese4682
      @thegreatcheese4682 4 года назад +1

      Indeed I seem to “stumble” upon many beheaded Thalmor laying on the road. Seems they get attacked a lot.

    • @beardiemom
      @beardiemom 4 года назад +5

      @@Vulpine407 Considering most of their prisoners are stormcloaks, I leave those thalmor squads alone. The traitors to the empire deserve all that's coming to them.

  • @ImaginaryTerrie3
    @ImaginaryTerrie3 4 года назад +57

    That's how you say it? I've been saying Justiciar, "Just a car" this whole time.

    • @KellingtonDorkswafer
      @KellingtonDorkswafer 4 года назад +15

      It's not just any car...
      It's a Magic Aldmerian Car...

    • @hillmannic
      @hillmannic 4 года назад +2

      The thalmor are just trashy cars. Driven by high elven nazis.

    • @gr13v0u5
      @gr13v0u5 4 года назад +2

      Probably because of Samara from Mass Effect. I used to do pronounce it like that too.

  • @HLFlare
    @HLFlare 4 года назад +1

    So,
    "The Empire Struck Back"
    Great video Nate, Always love tuning in for that fill of lore and wonder you present for us.
    Thank you for everything ya' do. 🎉🎊

  • @DovahkiinQahnaarinStrunduul
    @DovahkiinQahnaarinStrunduul 3 года назад +2

    "My mother told me, one day I would buy. Galley's with good oars, sail to distant shores. Sail to distant shores." - Me getting the mighty Stormcloak Army ready to march on Alinor.

  • @ryanwalker1355
    @ryanwalker1355 4 года назад +187

    6th Thing they dont tell ya: Thalmor make great XP farms

  • @Hatypus
    @Hatypus 4 года назад +196

    "While we in skyrim largely view the Penitus Oculatus as antagonists"
    Stop! You violated the law and joined the dark brotherhood for "loot" and "quests". Pay the court a fine or serve your sentence! Your stolen goods are now forfeit!

    • @xandan1668
      @xandan1668 4 года назад +6

      Destroy the dark brotherhood.

    • @justnoob8141
      @justnoob8141 4 года назад +1

      At least they're just antagonist and not villain

    • @bartdr5146
      @bartdr5146 4 года назад +6

      @@xandan1668 to bad this quest is so short, they should make it much longer. Eg discovering plot on Emperor life and stoping the assasins

    • @xandan1668
      @xandan1668 4 года назад +1

      @@bartdr5146 Destroy the dark brotherhood!

    • @talonshadowscale4519
      @talonshadowscale4519 Год назад

      @@xandan1668 as a head of The Dark Brotherhood, I forbid this!
      (A low ranked DB assassin has accepted the contract for your life)

  • @andrewmelville1712
    @andrewmelville1712 4 года назад

    Somehow, I've only just come across your channel and I am having a blast watching heaps of your Skyrim stuff.
    I feel like installing and playing it again now too!

  • @CMAzeriah
    @CMAzeriah 4 года назад +3

    The Thalmor should be scared. The first leader of every "human" Empire has always been a dragonborn, Saint Alessia, Reman Cyridiil, Tiber Septim, things didn't end well last time the high elves fought a dragon born led empire. I also find it convinient that Titus mede just so happens to die at the same time a dragon born appears.

  • @Jack-tu5yr
    @Jack-tu5yr 4 года назад +92

    "Desbern and Eelphine"

    • @shagyjay9554
      @shagyjay9554 4 года назад +4

      I was curious I heard that I was confused

  • @Aethuviel
    @Aethuviel 4 года назад +16

    When my Dunmer Dragonborn dressed up as a Thalmor, first of all, he looked like an idiot, second of all, all the soldiers and justiciars were like "Come here, let me see your face!", flexing their weapons and all. It only held until the middle of the courtyard. I guess I was kind of short.

  • @ElderGodsInc
    @ElderGodsInc 4 года назад +10

    Hi Nate.
    In another one of your videos you talk about a series of corpses we can find in Falkreath that appear to have died without a struggle, as well as the Breton called Woodcutter where you mention he died without struggle and had a mug of mead on a stump nearby. I recently encountered Zaria, the owner of Grave Concoctions in Falkreath, who says her family don't approve of her "interest in lethal poisons and death in general". I suspect she may be a serial killer poisoning people out in the wilderness. I haven't investigated her further, breaking into her house etc, but I think it might be cool to do a segment in one of your Mysteries episodes based around her!

  • @majormoron605
    @majormoron605 4 года назад +4

    when he said "I shoud be in my final days now" I thought "oh no, pls don´t die on us". Poor choice of words, Nate

  • @123densmore
    @123densmore 4 года назад +47

    HOW IS THERE STILL THINGS I DIDNT KNOW ABOUT SKYRIM??? I learn something new every time I watch your videos m8.

    • @AlexLJ55
      @AlexLJ55 4 года назад

      I struggle with the politics of the world alot. I don't understand it

    • @paarthurnax2673
      @paarthurnax2673 2 года назад

      There will always be things you don't know about Skyrim, as in did my horn (check my username I might not be on my alt account of "Paarthurnax") make The Horn of Jurgen Windcaller?

  • @redhood4105
    @redhood4105 4 года назад +46

    Anyone else hear him say "Desbern and Elphine"😂😂😂

  • @DeadGirlRisen
    @DeadGirlRisen 4 года назад +8

    I would love to see Nate play a modded skyrim playthrough with all of his favorite mods.

  • @ccolorsplit
    @ccolorsplit 4 года назад +6

    In the Thalmor’s defense, Talos (and many other Nord cultural heroes) did many wrongs to the elves. (Think of the Numidium in Summerset, for example.) It makes sense for them to resent Talos, and thus believe he doesn’t deserve worship.
    Also the Thalmor aren’t a justification for hating Altmer in general. They are Elven Supremacists and do not reflect the opinions of the Altmer at large.

    • @waxwinged_hound
      @waxwinged_hound 4 года назад +2

      T H A N K

    • @MJ-jt5cs
      @MJ-jt5cs 3 года назад +2

      Exactly. My next playthrough im picking a high elf and killing every thalmor justicar I see just for kicks.

  • @tvangelist
    @tvangelist 4 года назад +147

    this is classified info you're sharing, nate

    • @zenhaelcero8481
      @zenhaelcero8481 4 года назад +3

      @The Voice Of The Most Powerful God Talos is that you?

    • @tvangelist
      @tvangelist 4 года назад +10

      @@zenhaelcero8481 talos is a false god. a great hero, yes, but not a god. you silly, silly nords.

    • @tvangelist
      @tvangelist 4 года назад +1

      @@kamrynturner5232 wrong again, *buddy o' pal*

    • @samdiabolos1858
      @samdiabolos1858 4 года назад +2

      i have a feeling this god enjoys cheese

    • @tvangelist
      @tvangelist 4 года назад +4

      @@samdiabolos1858 dairy is good for your bones

  • @jennamarie1812
    @jennamarie1812 4 года назад +35

    Nate: "*the emperor strikes back"*
    *_George Lucas wants to know your location_*

  • @styvie303
    @styvie303 4 года назад +1

    Tiny details: if you skip the diamond city intro with piper and enter through the hidden upper stands, piper won’t talk to you, nor the mayor, but instead the pastor will be outside and greet you and tell you about the paper

  • @dakotamarshburn8123
    @dakotamarshburn8123 4 года назад

    Supporting you all the way to 1 million,great content

  • @opusfluke2354
    @opusfluke2354 4 года назад +86

    "I always thought The Thalmor were just a bunch of intolerant snappy dressers."- Inigo The Brave

  • @AdiG1
    @AdiG1 4 года назад +30

    Dominion: We took the capital! The Empire won’t think to come back!
    [gets murdered to death]
    High Elves to the player: Stay away from our glory and intellect, peasent!

  • @MichaelOKC
    @MichaelOKC 4 года назад +3

    Thalmor hit squad: "You can't hide from me!"
    Me: Silently whispering "Keep telling yourself that " as I slowly draw The Blade of Woe across their necks.

  • @gylaggal3896
    @gylaggal3896 4 года назад

    Dude, watching your videos really mack me hesitate to play skyrim more and more. Thanks

  • @battlesheep2552
    @battlesheep2552 4 года назад +124

    I don’t see how a Thalmor victory is inevitable when they have a huge disadvantage: Elves have a low birthrate. The Empire is able to replenish it’s ranks much easier than the Dominion, so in the long run, it doesn’t look good for them.

    • @KiwiLombax15
      @KiwiLombax15 4 года назад +25

      I think I read somewhere that elven birthrate is tied to the population density. "Conditionally fertile" i believe the term was. If there are a lot of elves, they don't have many children. If many elves are going off to war and dying, fertility rates would spike.

    • @lukec2004
      @lukec2004 4 года назад +17

      @@KiwiLombax15 that's how it worked in history, however Elves prolonged lifespan would mean that their fertility rates wouldn't be as high as those of humans, as well the elves would stay kids longer

    • @lukec2004
      @lukec2004 4 года назад +2

      @@KiwiLombax15 that's how it worked in history, however Elves prolonged lifespan would mean that their fertility rates wouldn't be as high as those of humans, as well the elves would stay kids longer and as such would not be fit for war

    • @rebel8707
      @rebel8707 4 года назад

      Where is it stated that elves have low birthrates?

    • @battlesheep2552
      @battlesheep2552 4 года назад +1

      Rebel i remember it being mentioned in Daggerfall

  • @khajiitkitten5679
    @khajiitkitten5679 4 года назад +16

    WELL! ABOUT TIME! I've been checking all day to see it there was a new vid! I was getting withdrawal symptoms. I'll just watch it two or three times to really get my fix.

  • @fumarc4501
    @fumarc4501 4 года назад +18

    The Thalmor were actively looking for any powerful magical items, spells, or knowledge they could use for the upcoming 2nd Great War. The Empire isn’t shy about it either. One putts threatened my College after I fixed a dwemer map device.

    • @MoltenUprisingMK
      @MoltenUprisingMK Год назад +4

      My greatest fear is if they found out about the Dwemer's creation, the Aetherium Forge. That would lead to utter catastrophe.

  • @imakestuffhere
    @imakestuffhere 2 года назад

    So glad to see you're in good spirits

  • @Sunflower-sn9ij
    @Sunflower-sn9ij 4 года назад +55

    Nate "so when the empire striked back"
    Me "hmm the empire strikes back you say.......seems familiar..."

  • @wrongsalvation8904
    @wrongsalvation8904 4 года назад +40

    I just started another playthrough as a high-elf, I'm so going to do that at the Thalmor Embassy.

    • @wrongsalvation8904
      @wrongsalvation8904 4 года назад +3

      @Cody Allen my character grew up around Thalmor and because of this she despises them. She knows what they're trying to do and she will try to stop it at any cost. And that's why she was captured at the border lol.

    • @wrongsalvation8904
      @wrongsalvation8904 4 года назад +1

      @Cody Allen I have but my headcanon on this play through is a very aggressive one and her starting out as a prisoner is fitting.

    • @aidanbacon6097
      @aidanbacon6097 4 года назад +5

      Lmao the closest backstory to my characters is that they all look basically the same and like cheese.

    • @user-xe4xw1ws1n
      @user-xe4xw1ws1n 4 года назад +2

      @@aidanbacon6097 So Ring of Namira, and Wabbajack?

    • @ashketchum6222
      @ashketchum6222 Год назад

      I'll play an Altmer in my next playthrough, and I've already got a backstory planned for her. She didn't support the Thalmor ideals but was forced to become a Thalmor soldier against her will. When she was reassigned to Skyrim to accompany a Thalmor Justiciar (like the ones you see wandering around Skyrim in-game), she deserted the first chance she got and killed the Justiciar and freed the prisoner in the process. Turns out killing the Justiciar was a bad idea, because he had the status of a diplomat, and she ended up captured and sentenced to death- her execution is interrupted by none other than Alduin, and that's where her story as the protagonist of Skyrim begins.

  • @misteryman526
    @misteryman526 4 года назад +22

    "And they're going to win in the end"
    Huh. I just don't see that. 'Cause I, as the Dragonborn, pretty much slaughter every living Thalmor in Skyrim while they prance about looking haughty and there's not even a bounty on me for doing it.

    • @caninelupus8369
      @caninelupus8369 3 года назад

      The massive loss of resources (weapons, armor, personnel, etc.) at our hands alone (if we fight them, which I always do) means that they're weakened and not as powerful as they seem. If/when we join the fight against them in the coming war, there's a real chance that we could turn the tide.

    • @mapleflag6518
      @mapleflag6518 2 года назад

      @@caninelupus8369 Also perhaps we could get the dragons to aid us.

  • @darkpaw1522
    @darkpaw1522 3 года назад +4

    Played this game for several years, I'm still discovering new stuff.

  • @ianhowick
    @ianhowick 4 года назад +11

    "...I'm towards my final days..." sounds very ominous, bud. You sure you're ok?

  • @whenthemusicsover6028
    @whenthemusicsover6028 4 года назад +14

    The day Nate runs out of things to talk about, will be a sad day indeed.

  • @LiminalMan777
    @LiminalMan777 4 года назад

    Hey dude, great video. Really enjoy the last string of top 5's featuring towns and factions...also you should see if Amazon will hire you to do audio book readings of those Elder Scrolls novels

  • @skootybazooms6140
    @skootybazooms6140 4 года назад

    I’ve been watching your videos for a good minute and your voice is relaxing you should start doing audio books for me 😂

  • @fortunatefantasy
    @fortunatefantasy 4 года назад +53

    Just a curious question...
    Has anyone tried approaching Captain Valmir in Thalmor Robes?

    • @imperialspy8202
      @imperialspy8202 4 года назад +20

      Yes,doesn't end well
      Edit: for him lol

  • @rietoh
    @rietoh 4 года назад +12

    This was one of your better videos, I would like to see you create more general lore videos.

  • @Zamandu
    @Zamandu 2 года назад +14

    "The Thalmor just kinda forgot that the Empire was a threat"

  • @apjtv2540
    @apjtv2540 4 месяца назад +1

    I like how the very thing that made Esbern and Delphine such a pain to the Thalmor, their relentless attitude and stubbornness, is the same thing that means we end up hating them later on, when they refuse to let Paarthurnax live.

  • @dovahkiin420blazeit9
    @dovahkiin420blazeit9 4 года назад +35

    17:48
    Desbern and Elphine 😂😂

    • @youreden815
      @youreden815 4 года назад +2

      Dovahkiin 420blazeit glad i wasn’t the only one who realised 😂

  • @danhandsomeandsome6177
    @danhandsomeandsome6177 4 года назад +25

    Question ... Is there a "Mod" available, which allows more thalmore to wonder around Skyrim?
    I would greatly enjoy this simply to hunt them down.

    • @danhandsomeandsome6177
      @danhandsomeandsome6177 3 года назад +1

      @Noah Veon Thank you !!!

    • @ocefloww
      @ocefloww 2 года назад

      I want a mod that let's me wipe them out.

    • @somm150
      @somm150 2 года назад

      @@ocefloww There’s a mod that allows another Great War and you can fight for the Stormcloaks, Imperials, or Dominion in a voiced quest line.

  • @masonscruggs1209
    @masonscruggs1209 2 года назад

    Great video!!!

  • @TranForsythe
    @TranForsythe 4 года назад +3

    Surprised he didn't mention the Oblivion DLC (knights of the nine) having to do with Umaril the Unfeathered - which is one of the only times Talos has played a pivotal role, post-ascension.

  • @ducksruleflorida4882
    @ducksruleflorida4882 4 года назад +13

    5:34 Wait. Why is everyone just... rolling down the street... like a turd... in the wind?

    • @PiousMoltar
      @PiousMoltar 4 года назад

      Because they didn't have a plan

  • @lautarobriand3621
    @lautarobriand3621 4 года назад +92

    The last time I was this early these jokes weren’t popular.

  • @kmstirpitz4285
    @kmstirpitz4285 4 года назад +2

    Dragonborn: The Thane of every hold, slain Miraak, Harkon, and Alduin. Literally the most powerful person in Skyrim.
    Random thief on road: HAND OVER YOUR VALUABLES OR I'LL GUT YOU LIKE A FISH.

  • @mydeerestdivine
    @mydeerestdivine 3 года назад +2

    me: no fear
    michael kirkbride: they're going to win in the end.
    me: one (1) fear

  • @dejavu8982
    @dejavu8982 4 года назад +16

    "The Imperials think we need their laws. Pfft!"

  • @AnyGamer327
    @AnyGamer327 4 года назад +4

    Let’s just acknowledge that the shots were next level in this video

  • @deployedkitty
    @deployedkitty 4 года назад +16

    Elder Scrolls lore: "hundreds of thousands of Thalmor soldiers occupied the Imperial City"
    Oblivion Imperial City population count (excluding guards): 194
    I wish these games didn't seem to depopulated.

    • @stevenseagal9911
      @stevenseagal9911 4 года назад +4

      Been feeling more and more depopulated since Morrowind

    • @ArturoPladeado
      @ArturoPladeado 3 года назад +1

      @@stevenseagal9911 In Elder Scrolls 6 the biggest city is going to contain 5 in a half people.
      On a side not due to Microsoft buying Bethesda and Bethesda supposedly giving a proper overhaul to they're engine and the fact that they should no longer have impatient, greedy shareholders breathing down they're necks the cities in Elder Scrolls 6 might be fairly big.

    • @jacobdelatorre9147
      @jacobdelatorre9147 3 года назад +1

      @@ArturoPladeado I just hope the size of the cities could be something more like the last Assassin's Creed games

  • @gametube1364
    @gametube1364 2 года назад

    Hey Nate, I’ve seen a lot of you videos, enjoyed your content, and love the way your game looks. Which leads me to my question: what mods are you using to make your game look so good?

  • @andrewfalk3834
    @andrewfalk3834 4 года назад +10

    I love this video 10 times more because he keeps saying
    “Empire strikes back” (Star wars)

  • @endgamer3000
    @endgamer3000 4 года назад +51

    Wait, the thalmor told this agent that know one in Skyrim would be smart enough for them to know that he was a agent and act like a officer in a army... wouldn’t he be screwed if we were from the stromcloaks an saw a high elf as a commanding officer?

    • @caninelupus8369
      @caninelupus8369 3 года назад +9

      Well if he impersonated an imperial officer for you, he'll be impersonating a stormcloak officer when you come back out, giving orders to a stormcloak who seems fooled.

    • @levi_ackerman_119
      @levi_ackerman_119 2 года назад

      @@caninelupus8369 Ulfric did not likes elves. Any elves. Doubt he’d’ve let one get to the rank of officer…

    • @szabok1999
      @szabok1999 2 года назад

      @@caninelupus8369 But he does impersonate a stormcloak for you, if you are on their side. That's the point. He can spawn in both ways, and then when you come out he is in the middle of foolimg an imperial.

    • @PunkZombie1300
      @PunkZombie1300 Год назад

      @@levi_ackerman_119 Tell that to the high elf dragonborns who join the Stormcloaks lol.

  • @TheMercyfulEmperor
    @TheMercyfulEmperor 4 года назад +1

    Finally a nice video about the Good Guys in TES V!

  • @hadiekhan7267
    @hadiekhan7267 3 года назад +1

    after you kill Alduin if you have a follower with you bandits will usually say ''You can't live for the good of the Drgonborn'' and things like that it's a nice detail