The reason we have so few Sams, is that no one wants to be a servant to someone anymore. Frodo wasn't Sam's "friend", he was his master. So Sam put Frodo's needs above his own, and was always looking for ways he could serve him.
@@bryanmyers5620I think you might have misunderstood the books a little bit. While Sam was, in fact, Frodo's gardener, their relationship is much closer to friendship than master-servant bond . Re-read the books and you will maybe see the difference between pure sense of duty and genuine friendship. Of course there is the respect involved, not only based on their status, but also the fact Frodo is 12 years older than Sam in the books, however, one does not have to necessarily exclude the other.
You can read Frodo's last page of the Red Book of Westmarch over his shoulder when he's sat in Bag End, and the words make my heart melt every time I see them: "Samwise Gamgee was elected Mayor of Hobbiton, and although it took great courage, he finally asked for the hand of fair Rosie Cotton. It was the bravest thing he ever did."
Fun fact: many years in the future Legolas also boards a ship to The Undying Lands and is accompanied by none other than Gimli who in spite of being neither an elf nor a ring bearer was still granted such a position of honor that he became the one and only dwarf to ever be allowed into Valinor.
I know right? With every passing year, every time I rewatch these movies it is more and more obvious that the academy awards whiffed on that one. In the books, Sam is an absolute legend and Sean Astin truly brought this to life on the big screen.
Fun fact when Aragorn says "For Frodo" and charges at the black gate the elven choir in the background says "If by my life or death I can protect you I will. You have my sword." Which is what he said to Frodo at the Council of Elrond.
@pencil6965 probably a collaborative effort between him and Howard Shore, there's so many cool details hidden in the choir lyrics throughout the trilogy. Like when Boromir protects Merry and Pippin "The tree is bare, the fountain still. Where are you, Boromir? We hear your call. But cannot find you..."
And in Boromir’s death scene, “I do not love the sword for its sharpness, the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his fierceness, I love only that which they defend.” ( I may not have it word for word) That is said by his brother, Faramir, in the book.
Merry and Pippin become the leaders of their respective clans, the Brandybucks and the Tooks. When they were aged and widowed, they returned to Minas Tirith and were entombed on either side of King Ellessar (Aragorn.) Sam and Rosie had 13 children, and Sam was elected mayor several times. When Rosie died on a midsummer's eve, Sam gave the Red Book to his oldest daughter, and was never seen again. The story was told in her family that he went to the Gray Havens and took a ship, the last of the ring-bearers to pass over the sea.
And Pippin marries Diamond of Long Cleeve (who we see next to him when he catches the boquet, hence he look he gives her) and they'll have a son named Faramir.
Remember Galadriel's words to Elrond in The Two Towers? _In his heart, Frodo begins to understand: the Quest will claim his life. You know this. You have foreseen it. It is the risk we all took._ In the end, the quest did claim his life. He didn't die _physically,_ but he was so wounded spiritually and emotionally that he simply could not find peace and comfort in Middle-earth. Not even in The Shire, which he loved most dearly. So he left for the Undying Lands, the one place where he could find true rest and healing until the end of his days.
@@jordanmcbride9215 All the ring-bearers were allowed into the Undying Lands. It's why Bilbo was also allowed to go. Even Sam, who only briefly held the Ring, was allowed to go to the Undying Lands after his wife passes from old age.
Epic is just a slight understatement, but I said the same thing. I was in awe of the Grandeur the way I was drawn into the story and all the emotions of sacrifice and loss were part of me as I watched all the movies. I did not want it to end. I wanted more stories. I wanted to feel the happy innocence of the shire like a warm embrace of a loved one. I think these movies embody what we want in friendship and love even though there may be great loss and all things may go away that this struggle would be the one we would all join to save what we hold, dear to our hearts.
I think everyone underplay's Frodo's physical wound from the Morgal Blade that the King of the Nazgul stabbed him with. This wound took a great toll from Frodo and bothered him to his final days in Middle Earth. I don't think Frodo suffered from any type of PTSD. Rather, he was severely conflicted, or guilt-ridden. In his mind, he failed to do his duty in the quest. HE DID NOT DESTROY THE RING. He knows this and he knows Sam knows this. I'm one million percent certain Sam took this knowledge to the grave with him...but in Frodo's own mind, his own actions were cowardly. And it was likely unbearable knowing Sam knew all this. Sam knew that Frodo was heavily influenced by the ring and he regarded Frodo as the greatest hero ever. But, wrongly, Frodo didn't see it that way.
Similar sentiments in quotes poems, movies and tv: "He ain't heavy, father. He's my brother" - inscription outside Boystown, Nebraska Man: "But I have noticed that during the most troublesome times in my life, There is only one set of footprints."... God: "When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you." - Footprints in the Sand "When you can't run any more, you crawl. When you can't crawl, you find someone to carry you" - Browncoat Motto, "Firefly" "No greater love hath a man, than he lay down his life for his brother. Not for millions, not for glory, not for fame, but for one person, in the dark, where no one will ever know or see." - Sebastian the Inquisitor (aka Jack the Ripper), "Babylon 5"
Frodo is injured beyond repair down to his soul. The Shire isn’t enough to relieve the pain. He goes with Gandalf and Bilbo to live forever with the elves into myth and legend. Elvish magic and medicine will soothe his pain some as he lives out the rest of his life. A big inspiration for this was that Tolkien fought in World War 1, and saw the horrors of that war and what it did to his countrymen and brothers - it scarred them in such a deep way that not even returning home was enough to heal many of them. This is spoken through Frodo’s experience.
No. Frodo does not live forever in the undying lands. They are not called undying lands because no-one dies there. Frodo lives out his life and dies but many members of the fellowship actually join him later.
@@AngelicDaemon i thought his immortality was left ambiguous. Since eru took a vested interest sending gandalf back i think its more likely he is forever immortal.at least part of the reason they are called undying lands is that there are only undying beings there. I believe that the four i can think of that werent immortal that went there were granted it. Aerendil definately was but obv didnt stay. Gimli bilbo and frodo immortal.
@@MrSimonNayNo, they are not immortal. They can't go to Valinor proper as mortal beings would go mad there. They go instead to an island off the east coast of Valinor called Tol Eressea. That is where Bilbo, Frodo and later Sam and Gimli live out the rest of their lives. Gimli was never invited and went on spec. with Legolas. Galadriel intervened and petitioned for him to stay and he was allowed.
@@ronweber1402I’ll add that Tolkien himself stated that the Eldar, while able to heal the minds and hearts of mortals, cannot stop Death. That power alone Eru holds. Bilbo, Frodo, Gimli eventually meet death.
Frodo and Bilbo (and Gimli) do die and in fact they're lives go more quickly in the Undying Lands due to the immortality of everybody and thing else around them. Tolkien explains it as similar to a moth flying too close to a bright flame.
14:20 This confusing scene of Eowyn unconscious is explained in the book. Anyone who takes a weapon to a Nazgul becomes deathly ill. Eowyn (and Merry) go into a coma after stabbing the Witch King. Eomer finds his sister on the battlefield and thinks she is dead. But she is still breathing, so they take her into the city, where Aragorn revives her, because "the hands of the King are the hands of a healer"
It's my least favourite part of the extended editions haha, because it's so needlessly confusing. If they showed her passing out after Theoden's death then at least the audience would understand that she is either unconscious or dead, but as it is it's just "She's alive and crying - they think she's DEAD?!?! WHAT HAPPENED?!?!"
And thus ends the journey of Natascha the White; who has passed through fire and despair, to tears of joy and bliss. I'm glad to see you took our advice, and came prepared with a roll of tissues! Take heart in the knowledge that Frodo and Bilbo have earned their place in the Undying Lands, and that Gandalf, Elrond and Galadriel have gone HOME at last. You have shared with me one of the best reactions I have seen in years - you made it fun as well as engaging, and I'm glad I could see it with you!
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Sam eventually joins Frodo in Valinor in his old age after his wife passes. But you are right Frodo basically has PTSD and so he goes to the undying lands to find peace.
@@alexcherrypicks Yeah, Sam was afforded the opportunity because he was technically a ringbearer. He carried the ring after he rescued Frodo from Shelob.
Except Tolkien wrote that mortals lives are sped up in Valinor and that Frodo would die within 6 months and his soul would go to the halls of Mandos where all mortal souls go, so Frodo would be long dead when Sam arrives
@Alkarion26 no its called the undying lands because those who live there; elves, Valar, maiar, etc, are immortal. If a mortal being tries to go there they'll either never find it if uninvited or if invited will arrive but have their lifespan shortened, though will live in bliss during that time. It is in Tolkiens' appendixes and some of his published letters. The ringbearers were allowed (all in old age except frodo who was in his 50s) because of the trauma of wearing the ring meant only the bliss and peace of valinor could afford them some healing before a quick death.
Frodo got the happiest of endings! A peaceful life with the elves, the companionship of Bilbo for a while and even reunited with Sam before they both died. He would have been in pain and unhappy, had he stayed in middle earth. Great journey with you, Tasch 🙂
Many folks complained about the many endings in the film... But the endings make 100 pages in the books. Tolkien was well versed with the "hero's quest" that ends when the hero gets back. The hero isn't Aragorn getting crowned, or Gandalf in his many labors. Nor is it even frodo who bore the weight of the quest. The story ends with SAM getting home. He is the hero and Tolkien wanted to make good and sure we all knew that SAM is the hero who makes his homecoming. But you'll be happy to know after many long years, after Rosie dies, SAM was given the honor to be brought to the undying lands to be reunited with Frodo as sam, even only for that brief time Frodo was captured, was the ringbearer.
In the books Sam searched the towers for four months before he found Frodo. He did get awarded a treasure for his dedication... to garden Bag End in the company of his own family. That really was Sam's (Sean Austin's) little girl at the end. Frodo really did suffer not just the burden of the ring but the enduring pain of the stab, the crush of the troll's spear, and, though downplayed in the films, the interaction with the swamp spirits.
There are two scenes in RoTK that are just beautiful, first one is when Samwise said: I cannot carry it for you but I can carry you - really goes to show what a friend Sam is to Frodo, really love that friendship bond between them The other one is when the newly crowned King Aragorn said to the hobbits: " you bow to no one" those two scenes always melt my heart...so heart warming
I think every person who ever was in posession of the ring needs to leave middle-earth and go to the undying lands(valinor). Frodo can truly find peace there. Having the ring for so long plus the morgul blade wound made his life so hard. Even sam left after many years after his wife passed. Because he too had the ring while he saved frodo. In the books it's described how the ring tried to tempt him, but his idea of using its power was turning mordor into beautiful gardens. It also boosted his already powerful bravery and skill to free frodo. So in a way, it's a happy ending for frodo. Additional fun fact: after travelling middle-earth together and seeing all the great sights(and after aragorns passing after many years), legolas AND gimli left middle-earth together. Gimli was the only dwarf who was granted that honor.
6:49 What Gandalf was saying was very positive... He was telling Pippin that the afterlife awaits. And that it can be beautiful. So not everyone has to fear it. His face when he's saying that is wonderful. I was hoping you'd watch him closer, and notice the joy while he's describing it. There was nothing sad about that. And the music playing there is the same as in the very end. When they're leaving Middle Earth. The song is called "Into the West". And Annie Lennox is singing it. Peter Jackson knew right that he wanted to give her the ending theme. Wise man.
Faramir and Éowyn settled down in Emyn Arnen, a range of hills in Ithilien in sight of Minas Tirith, and Aragorn made Faramir the Lord of Emyn Arnen. He and Éowyn had at least one son named Elboron, who followed his father as Steward and Prince of Ithilien when Faramir died.
Since Faramir's my favorite character in the book, what they did to his character in The Two Towers (making him an antagonist to Frodo and Gollum in order to ratchet up the dramatic tension of the story), is what I'll never be okay with. But disregarding the most detailed and earned romance of the whole trilogy (Aragorn and Arwen's romance happened mostly off screen and you only get the details in the appendix, and Eowyn's infatuation with Aragorn was never reciprocated because Arwen never was going to leave), felt like such a huge missed opportunity. I was glad that at least some of it made it into extended version though.
@@bryanmyers5620My favourite elf was always Glorfindel, and when the movies came out I couldn't get over them completely cutting him out of them. In retrospect, I understand the decision to replace his parts with Arwen in order to give her more screentime.
@@yllepluff Unfortunately for Glorfindel, He didn't do enough in the books to justify keeping him in the movies. Even the cartoon cut him out and they were closer to the books in some ways. I wish that somehow a studio that doesn't meddle, or push the message, would make a TV show with 20 to 50 episodes that follows the books closely, uses Weta Workshop, and is directed by a Tolkien lover. Basically, I wish Peter Jackson and crew could have done it back then.
Them getting to know each other developed over a week or so of their recuperation (along with Merry, who was still sick and had no use of the arm that stabbed the witch king). The movie covers all of that in a few seconds.
3:20 it's so refreshing to see that despite all his terrible shortcomings, you don't wish for Denethor to die a painful death. "Many that live deserve death, and some that die deserve life." Gandalf really is your spirit animal. 14:20 landing an attack on the Witch King results in a sort of poisonous infection called Black Breath, that's why Mary recoiled in pain when he put his knife in the Witch King's leg, and why Eowyn seemed fine then wasn't.
Your reaction to possibly the greatest film trilogy of all time has been incredible to witness. The world & stories of Middle Earth are such an amazing, mindblowing gift from Prof Tolkien. Seeing the trilogy in the cinema was a truly awesome experience & seeing someone who’s never witnessed this cinematic masterpiece become so invested in the story & characters never gets old. Below is detailed what happened to the Fellowship, following Frodo’s departure to the Undying Lands. Sam: Samwise following his return to the Shire and the departure of his beloved Frodo, had an important role in Shire politics in the years to come. Sam married Rose after the War of the Ring and they had a daughter named Elanor. In the year 1427, Samwise Gamgee is elected mayor of the shire for the first time and in the year 1431 has another daughter named Goldilocks. In the year 1442 Samwise and his family travel to Gondor, where they stay for a year in the fair city of Minas Tirith. Following his first election, Samwise is elected mayor of the Shire almost continuously until the year 1469 where he is elected for the seventh and final time at the age of ninety-six. In the year 1482, Sam’s beloved wife Rose dies on the 22nd of September. Following this, Sam rides out from Bag End, passing down the red book given to him by Frodo to his first daughter Elanor. According to his daughter, Sam travelled to the Grey Havens, whereupon he crossed the sea into Valinor, the last of the ring bearers to leave Middle Earth, reunited once more with Frodo in the Undying Lands. Merry & Pippin: In the year 1427, Pippin marries a hobbit named Diamond of Long Cleeve and in the year 1430, his son Faramir is born, named in respect of the great friendship Pippin and Faramir share. In 1434, Pippin becomes the Thain of the Shire, meaning he was in charge of the Shire militia in the event they went to war and becomes well-respected in the Shire. In 1463 Pippin’s son Faramir marries Goldilocks, daughter of Samwise, linking our hobbits together in the bonds of matrimony and family adding to their already deep bond of fellowship. Meanwhile Merry, in 1432, called Merry the Magnificent by Shirefolk, becomes the master of Buckland. For this appointment, he receives gifts from King Éomer of Rohan and from Lady Éowyn of Ithilien. It is said Merry marries a hobbit called Estella. In 1484, Merry receives a message from King Éomer who wishes to see him again before he dies, by this time Merry himself was 102. Merry and Pippin, handing their titles down to their sons, set off together to Rohan, Merry being present when Éomer dies. Following the death of Éomer Pippin and Merry Following the death of Éomer Pippin and Merry continue on to Gondor and live out the rest of their life in Minas Tirith. Following their deaths their bodies were entombed in Rath Dínen, the hall in which the great kings and stewards of Gondor were laid to rest. Gimli & Legolas: Gimli and Legolas also had quite the journey following the defeat of Sauron, travelling together and continuing their unbreakable bond of friendship. Gimli was named ‘elf friend’ one of the only dwarves to be named such, and brought a band of dwarves from Erebor to the caves behind Helms Deep. The caves in the books are known for being one of the wonders of the north, with jewels lining the walls and ceilings. Gimli becomes the Lord of the Glittering Caves and together with his people, he fashions new gates for Minas Tirith made of mithril and steel to replace the ones destroyed by the Witch King. Gimli took Legolas to the Glittering Caves whereupon he was said to be speechless at their beauty, the first time a Dwarf “claimed victory over an Elf in a contest of words.” IIn turn Legolas took Gimli to all the forests of Middle Earth, including Fangorn, educating Gimli on the beauty that dwelt there. Legolas also brought elves out from the Greenwood into Ithilen where they dwelt for a number of years, transforming Ithilien into the most beautiful land in the West. Legolas and the elves also aided Gimli in the rebuilding of Minas Tirith, making it once more the jewel in the crown of the men of the west. Aragorn: Aragorn, now King Elessar married Arwen, and it is detailed that he had a son, and numerous daughters and through him the royal House of Telcontar was founded. Elessar took many steps to fix the divided kingdom which he inherited. Though Sauron was defeated, there were many who still had evil in their minds and sought to disrupt Middle Earth thus Elessar defended Middle Earth, protecting the kingdom of men. He re-established the Great Council of Gondor, and rebuilt and repaired the tower of Orthanc, in which he placed the palantír taken from Saruman. In Orthanc Elessar discovers heirlooms belonging to the house of Eorl of Rohan. He further discovered, with the help of Gimli, treasures belonging to Isildur which were lost following his death. Elessar repatriates these, returning them back to their rightful place in Gondor. Elessar also leaves the valley of Orthanc under the control of the Ents, who rename the valley ‘Treegarth of Orthanc.’ Although pre-occupied with his kingdom, that didn’t stop Elessar from journeying to see his friends, bound together forever by a strength of friendship which surpasses our comprehension. In 1427 Elessar declared the Shire a free land, forbidding men from entering it. In 1436 Elessar came north to Brandybuck visiting Pippin, Merry and Sam, giving the Star of the Dúnedain to Master Samwise. Elessar also expanded the Shire, encompassing within its boundaries the lands up to the Emyn Beraid. Elessar died in the year 1541 after 122 years of kingship at the age of 210. Of his death, it is written “he fell into sleep. Then a great beauty was revealed in him…And long there he lay, an image of the splendour of the Kings of Men in glory undimmed before the breaking of the world.” Arwen died a year after Elessar and it is written that “the light of her eyes was quenched and it seemed to her people that she had become cold and grey as nightfall in winter that comes without a star.” She died in Lorien, where she lived alone in that silent land for the last year of her life. There in the halls of Rath Dínen beside the tomb of the Elessar, lay the tombs of Meriadoc and Peregrin Took buried by his side, as faithful in death as they were in life. With the passing of Elessar, Legolas builds a ship in the Grey Havens and sails to the Undying Lands, accompanied by Gimli, the only dwarf to ever be given this honour. It is said that Galadriel, high among the Elves obtained this grace for Gimli, allowing him entry into Valinor with his beloved friend Legolas. And with the passing of Legolas and Gimli into the Undying Lands, so to did the fellowship pass forever out of Middle Earth and their like was never seen again.
um, can you give us the actual years please? or at least the years that far more people recognize. like, the one ring is destroyed in year 3019 of the third age.
@@CursedAnqxl hope this helps? Note: TA = Third Age, FA = Fourth Age The Fourth Age began with the crowning of King Elessar (Aragorn). September TA 3018: Frodo leaves the Shire for Rivendell October 20th TA 3018: Frodo reaches Rivendell March 25th TA 3019: The One Ring is destroyed May 1st TA 3019: King Elessar is crowned. It took 11 months, one week & six days for the One Ring to be taken to Mount Doom & destroyed. November 4th TA 3019: Frodo serves as Deputy Mayor of The Shire November 25th TA 3019: Sam begins the reforestation of The Shire 3020 TA: Faramir weds Éowyn April 1st TA 3020: Lobelia Sackville-Baggins dies May 1st TA 3020: Sam weds Rosie Cotton October 6th TA 3020: Frodo becomes ill March 25th TA 3021: Elanor Gamgee is born September 21st - 29th TA 3021: The Ringbearers depart The Grey Havens October 6th TA 3021: Sam returns to Bag End from The Grey Havens FA 0006: Elessar decrees that The Shire is off limits FA 0006: Sam becomes Mayor of The Shire FA 0006: Pippin weds Diamond of Long Cleeve FA 0011: Merry becomes Master of Buckland FA 0013: Pippin becomes Thain of The Shire FA 0013: Sam, Merry & Pippin become Councillors of the North Kingdom FA 0015: Elessar & Arwen dwell in Arnor FA 0015; Elessar & Arwen visit the Hobbits at Brandywine Bridge FA 0030: Elanor Gamgee weds Fastred of Greenholm June 30th FA 0061: Rosie Gamgee dies September 22nd FA 0061: Sam departs Bag End for The Grey Havens September 24th FA 0061: Sam gives Elanor The Red Book September 30th FA 0061: Sam departs The Grey Havens for The Undying Lands May 1st FA 0063: Faramir Took becomes Thain of The Shire May 1st FA 0063: Merry & Pippin depart The Shire for Rohan July 1st FA 0063: Merry & Pippin arrive at Edoras October 1st FA 0063: Éomer dies May 1st FA 0064: Merry & Pippin settle in Gondor FA 0067: Merry & Pippin die FA 0072: Faramir dies 1st March FA 0120: King Elessar dies 1st March FA 0120: Eldarion becomes king 1st March FA 0120: Legolas & Gimli depart The Grey Havens for The Undying Lands FA 0121: Arwen dies FA 0220: King Eldarion dies
@@CursedAnqxlWhere you might find it confusing, the dates such as 1427 above. The Shire had it's own date system and that's what they are. As if it wasn't enough for Tolkien to create several races, at least 3 complete languages and 10,000 years of history!
The final lines of the book right after Frodo’s departure, leaving behind his friends and Middle-earth: (...) But to Sam the evening deepened to darkness as he stood at the Haven; and as he looked at the grey sea he saw only a shadow on the waters that was soon lost in the West. There still he stood far into the night, hearing only the sigh and murmur of the waves on the shores of Middle-earth, and the sound of them sank deep into his heart. Beside him stood Merry and Pippin, and they were silent. At last the three companions turned away, and never again looking back they rode slowly homewards; and they spoke no word to one another until they came back to the Shire, but each had great comfort in his friends on the long grey road. At last they rode over the downs and took the East Road, and then Merry and Pippin rode on to Buckland; and already they were singing again as they went. But Sam turned to Bywater, and so came back up the Hill, as day was ending once more. And he went on, and there was yellow light, and fire within; and the evening meal was ready, and he was expected. And Rose drew him in, and set him in his chair, and put little Elanor upon his lap. He drew a deep breath. 'Well, I'm back,' he said. The End.
I named my daughter Elinor after two characters--Sam's daughter, and the main character in Sense & Sensibility. If we'd had a boy, we'd have named him Sam. Note that my ex-wife wasn't a Tolkien fan--I'd initially suggested Arwen for a girl's name, but she said that was too exotic :P But we both had agreed on Sam for sure!
Frodo has survivor's guilt. Everyone is calling him a hero, but he fells that he was defeated by it. You are totally correct that Frodo was scared of becoming like Bilbo, instead of feeling that he completed his task, he felt like he "lost" the ring. Going west was an act of absolution, Frodo wanted to forget all about it. But he will never forget his friends, & they will never forget him.
i dont think survivor guilt is a proper interpretation of the issue, the usual definition involves felling guilty because one is alive and other are not, felling either not worthy to have survived or guilty that they had to die for one to be alive. so i dont see the conection with frodo and Survivor Guilt. More like PTSD and some kind of Adictionor need that haunts him but cant never be satiated, and the chrconic, physical pain from the stabbing. maybe you are thinking about impostor syndrome
Also what I love about Tolkien's writing is that he NEVER kills charachters "just to crush us all inside", death in his world is a gift and it always has a greater meaning behind it. The video i recommended in previous comment explores it too and shows why charachters are spared or granted death. Ahhh LOTR is such a masterpiece, I can't😍
In the books Saruman had not died at Orthanc, but escaped. When the four Hobbits returned to the Shire they found that Saruman and a band of ruffians had pretty much laid waste to the area. They were able to rally the Shire-folk to drive the invaders out, and then Saruman was killed by Grima Wormtongue. Sam was able to restore the Shire using Galadriel's gift.
Succinctly put & well said! I can overlook & forgive all the changes in Tolkien’s work for the screenplay except for the one *HUGE* one you’ve here related. The four hobbits returning to that situation in the Shire and setting things aright, in the manner they did, exemplified the true growth in their characters and their ability to take care of their own affairs. We have to remember that Gandalf and the Rangers of the North had been protecting the Shire for years, unbeknownst to the inhabitants. And the time compression illusion in screenplays doesn’t help either. This, my one, enormous gripe with the screenwriters… and it basically ruins the story for me. Personally. Epic films, no doubt, but soured my outlook of the story. Alas…
@@ErnwaldoI can overlook this omission even though I wish they had included it. But if they had the movie would be, minimum, and extra 45 minutes longer And I think you see a good growth sequence within the film. I love the scene where Aragorn turns to his friends and says "For Frodo" and then charges the enemy at the Black Gates. And who follows after him before the men of the West even started moving? The two hobbits, without hesitation. Everyone there at that battle was sacrificing their lives to give Frodo a chance to succeed.
@@ogrestamp I hear ya & happy you can overlook that omission. I can not. I get that it would have made the film even longer and there are no shortage of people that complain about “too many (false) endings.” As a fan of the written work since the mid-70s, none of that concerned me. I was confused when they killed Saruman when they did & wondered how it would affect the ending. I can’t agree with the position that enough growth of the four Hobbits was shown. We’ll just have to agree to disagree on that point. The Scouring of the Shire and the four Hobbits doing all they do in response just completes their characters (literally & figuratively) and is so vital a denouement. This is all my personal cross to bear. I do love that so many find the films remarkable & receive so much joy from them.
@@Ernwaldo I understand your point. And I believe your cross isn't too big. One of my longer and better friends is angry at the films because they didn't include Tom Bombadil. Now that's a big cross to bear I think. Imagine trying to explain Tom Bombadil to non-readers. A case towards your point. Frodo looks into the Mirror of Galadriel and sees the Scouring of the Shire. I wonder if Peter Jackson intended to include that in the movies but pivoted for some reason.
@@ogrestamp Wow! Yeah, even I think Bombadil wasn’t too much a sacrifice. You make great points in an intelligent, well-reasoned manner. So fun! Thanks for sharing & continue to enjoy. Frodo Lives!
Some context about where Frodo went at the end: Its called Valinor, and a bunch of magical beings (called Valar) live there. They, like the Elves now, are kinda stuck there permanently because of other lore we don't need to get into. But the point is, these powerful beings are able to heal both Frodo's Weathertop wound AND the lasting harm of the One Ring (on Bilbo too). And before he died, Sam also went there. So it really IS the best ending for Frodo.
Wonderful reaction to the end of the best trilogy of movies ever. I've seen these I don't know how many hundred times, but I, a bitter and jaded old man (according to some), still tear up at so many places and speeches throughout. Many involving Sam. Seeing Sad Natascha made me even more teary eyed. But I completely understood the feelings, for certain. Also, the Natascha the White cosplay was great! And, yeah, wearing a wig for too long is miserable. Side note: I always liked that Gandalf came with three eagles, just in case Smeagol had been redeemed and survived. Admittedly, Frodo didn't just give up on the Shire immediately on a whim. As he said in the overdub, fourteen months after they left they returned to the Shire. And before they went to the harbor with Bilbo Frodo said it had been four years to the day since Weathertop, so Frodo did stay around the Shire for a couple of years to make a go of it, and to write the book. But the long suffering of being the Ringbearer was too much to overcome, as was the wound of the Morgul blade. So only in the Undying Lands would he find peace and joy again. And the no longer feeling quite comfortable in a place that had been home forever is a feeling that several friends of mine have mentioned after returning from war. They see it differently after seeing what they saw in battles, and while it is still the same place with the same comforts it is them that changed. If it helps, in the Appendices of the books there is an addendum of things that happened after Frodo left. One of the most important being that the ship Gandalf et al left on, in spite of being called the last elven ship to leave Middle Earth was not actually the last. After a long life, with his children grown and Rosie having passed away of old age, Samwise Gamgee, the last of the Ringbearers (however briefly) came to the harbor and found an elven ship waiting for him, and so he traveled to the Undying Lands to be reunited with the others. Another important note was that even this was not the last elven ship to leave Middle Earth. Years after Sam's journey, and after many many years of adventures and friendship, Legolas and Gimli came to the harbor where, if I remember correctly, Legolas built a ship to take the two of them to rejoin the other members of the Fellowship who had already gone to the Undying Lands. So still more happy endings and reunions occurred. Take comfort and joy in that, sweet lady. 🙂
Tolkien fought in World War I, and Frodo saving the shire but not for himself is an allegory for what the soldiers went through. Frodo's wound would never fully heal, just like the PTSD many soldiers had as a result. If you have anyone in your life suffering from mental health issues, just remember Sam's beautiful line: "I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you." Everyone should be a friend like Sam.
Great comment, however, Tolkien hated allegory. So I see it more as a theme that Tolkien put in the lord of the rings, which came from his experiences in WW1 just like you said. It stands on its own in the story.
Tolkein absolutely drew on his experiences in war for multiple aspects of the story, but he consistently and vehemently denied that LoTR was an allegory for war. Along with spelling out his hatred for allegory as one of the most low brow forms of story telling that, he did eventually state that, if anything, the story is nothing more than an allegory of power which would have applicability in many areas, including war.
This is just wrong, it gets repeated on every LOTR video too. Tolkien vehemently denied his works are allegorical, he disliked allegory. He was too intelligent and sophisticated to use something as simple and unoriginal as allegory. Comments like these just show you how misinformation spreads and becomes truth. Even when corrected the OP never deletes or edits the comment, they need those meaningless likes too much and they have no integrity.
@@Mr.Yoda66I think people are reading a bit too much into what Tolkien actually said, ironically enough. Back then there were people saying things like "Sauron is allegory for nuclear war", that's the sort of thing he was responding to, people making bold claims about what his work "means". Some of the character work being influenced by his experiences is a much more mundane statement, I'm not sure it should even qualify as "allegory", it's basically just inspiration. If you don't believe me, here's a quote from the man himself, from a letter to Cotton Minchin: " My “Samwise” is indeed (as you note) largely a reflexion of the English soldier - grafted on the village-boys of early days, the memory of the privates and my batmen that I knew in the 1914 War, and recognized as so far superior to myself."
I personally interpret the "Sailing west" with the Elves as going to Heaven basically. Frodo was so traumatized and damaged by the ring that he could not enjoy life anymore, so God/Eru Ilúvatar allowed Frodo to go to Heaven where Gandalf also went (Gandalf and the Wizards are basically Angels). The ring is also a great metaphor for drug addiction, it damages you ,becomes a part of you, in a way. It soothes you and lulls you in, it can feel like you need it to live and it can be hard to let go, especially without (a) good friend(s). And even after years of freedom from it you can still feel the consequences and maybe still have the urge to have it "one last time".
I interpret it as the same thing. (inserting tongue firmly into cheek) "Mediterranean" translates to "Middle Earth" And if you travel west from the Mediterranean, you arrive eventually on the shores of America. So when they leave the Grey Havens, they set sail for heaven. Which begs the question in my mind... why not just take the ring with them into the west, and dump it in some smelter in Pittsburgh or similar place? (removing tongue from cheek)
Tolkien fought in world war one and lost many close friends in the terrible trenches. He was forever affected by that experience and put some themes in The Lord of The Rings to reflect his experiences. If Frodo was just fine after all what he went through, then that would honestly diminish the journey and his strength and noble sacrifice of being the ringbearer. Tolkien wanted to show the effects and consequences of war on the soldiers. It is bittersweet that Frodo doesn't get to live happily in the shire but instead gets to go to the undying lands. And that is very much a theme of Tolkien. The perfect ending in my opinion! Especially the more I think about it and the more I rewatch/reread LOTR, the more I absolutely love it. Thanks for the reaction! ❤
I remember when i first saw the movie, i was wondering if I liked him going to the undyling lands too, but my friend at the time had read the books, and would clarify every question i had for all 3 movies (this was high school too in 2001-2003
for nearly 1700 years the witch king ran around thinking no one could kill him, but like most he failed to read between the lines of the prophesy. "He will not return to this land. Far off yet is his doom, and not by the hand of a man will he fall." -Glorfindel. Glorfindel chose is words wisely.
Merry stabs him with an ancient enchanted Númenórean blade that can remove the Witch King protection. After that Éowyn kill him with her sword, because she was just there. But at that moment, if the Witch King had been stabbed by Gimli, Legolas, Aragorn, or any human, male of female, the result would have been the same.
But with Merry being a Male/Man/Boy hobbit, his blade was destroyed when he stabbed him. By "No man can kill me." it means no Male Human, Elf, or Hobbit with XX chromosome can kill him. It has to be a Female, someone with XY
Another fun fact. The little girl that Sam picks up when he arrives home in the last scene is in fact Sean Astin's (Sam) real daughter. I may be recalling this wrong, but I believe in the dvd extras Sean said that his daughter had a hard time playing along with Rosie being Dad's wife and her mother. She'd get annoyed and protect Sean. I hope I'm correct. Might be a couple of decades that have messed with my memory.
It really never gets old to watch someone fall in love with the LOTR. I can't even begin to describe what these books and movies mean to me and it warms my heart to see that they still move people to the core this very day. I hope you had a wonderful journey through these movies and that you'll continue to find joy and courage in the stories. "There's some good in this world, mr. Frodo, and it's worth fighting for!"
5:15 “Does that break the skin?” FINALLY, someone reacting to these movies notices this! I’ve never seen anyone else on RUclips who saw that this is practically like trying to cut someone’s leg with a toothpick and would do absolutely nothing. The scene drives me crazy every time! I’m glad you noticed it too, Natascha!
"I go to Avalon to be healed of my grievous wound. And if I do not return, pray for my soul." King Arthur. There is quite a bit of the Arthurian legend in Lord of the Rings.
There was something Gandalf called the Black Breath in the books though he doesn't mention it in the movies -- it's something that afflicts anyone who attacks or is attacked by the Nazgul. That's why Eowyn and Pippin were both in such a bad way after Eowyn killed the Witch King, after Pippin stabbed him. In the books, it's also what afflicted Faramir, because one of those arrows that hit him came from above, from one of the Nazgul riding a winged Fell Beast. Fortunately, Aragorn was able to treat them all successfully. Lovely reaction -- I've enjoyed watching all these!
Remember when Galadriel said that Pippin would find his courage? Well, I'd say he found it by leaping into a pyre, into literal flames and rescuing Faramir. He really has come a long way since the Mines of Moria.
Although extremely sad Frodo leaves the Shire, you have to remember when Frodo says to Sam "It's been 4 years to the day since Weathertop the wound has never really healed." It was not possible for Frodo to completely heal in the Shire so he had to leave with the elves so he could fully heal not just from the physical wounds, emotional wounds, he was also stabbed by a Morgol blade which was evil and had evil magic attched to it, and he was poisoned and corrupted by the ring. It was extremely hard for Frodo to say goodbye to Sam, but he had to leave so he could fully heal. Very sad for everyone who's read the books, but also for people who haven't. This is my favorite trilogy! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
The Witch King couldn't be killed by normal means, hence the line "no man (human) can kill me". The short swords that Aragorn had given the Hobbits were specifically made to fight ring wraiths, but that is not mentioned in the movies. Merry weakened the Witch King, and Eowyn got that miraculous kill. This should, in no way, lessen what she does in your eyes. She is still the one to kill the Witch King.
Many people commented good stuff so I won’t go into that although I could write a whole book here about details and scenes and man those are just the best movies in every way possible and so many awesome and touching scenes that no matter how often you see them they always get you (at least me and everyone I know), but for me about Theoden, he’s very underrated in my eyes and a great man aswell as Aragorn and he only wants the best for his people and all mankind and does his duty without hesitation… for example the part where Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli leave shortly after Elrond talked to Aragorn: the people are saying „he leaves because there is no hope“ Theoden replies: „he leaves because he has to“ and „yes we can’t win, but we will meet them in battle nonetheless“ so badass - he’s ready to give it his all to do mankind a favor and try his best… That’s why they all scream death before charging in Minas Tirith because they all know they are going to die down to the last one of them (they don’t die all as we see it play out, but at the start of the battle everyone believed that as a 100% sure thing… Theoden is really a MVP badass good hearted person that gave it his best 👑
this ❤️ your girl is so expressive by nature but usually a crier in my own time....alone... away from public view 😂 so you know this stabbed me right in the heart 😂 i'm looking at him now, and all i see is a tiny little puppy 😂 i've been laughing at how many people have commented on his size bc my perspective has clearly been thrown so out of whack by having him grow up in my presence 😂
I loved how you went from "Mmm. Let's see what happens here" with The Fellowship of the Ring, to enter "Constant Tension" In The Two Towers and ended up crying uncontrollably with The Return of the King. Probably one of the nicest reactions I've seen about my favorite trilogy of movies. You have a new subscriber here... Postscript: Without a doubt you would have been the prettiest of all the elf queens or white sorceresses of Middle Earth... Waiting for more.
Legolas was one of the few Elves still left in middle earth the rest of his people were across the ocean in the west in Valinor. When Aragorn had passed away Legolas decided to build a ship to sail across the ocean to join his people, but Legolas wasn't alone he decided to bring his best friend Gimli with him, who by that point was very old even for a dwarf. When Legolas and Gimli finally reached Valinor, Gimli not only became the first Dwarf to set foot on Valinor but also Gimli got to see Lady Galadriel one more time.
"how did people deal with this in cinemas" i saw it when i was 12 & can confirm i was sobbing from "i can't carry it for you" through the car ride home
It is amazing how many back-to-back iconic moments are in this movie: "Aye, I could do that" "I can carry you" "For Frodo" all these are back to back from one another. And it makes sense when you realize, this is not one movie, this is the final act of an 11 hour long movie. So, this is the climax of it and it is perfectly delivered
Frodo never fully healed from his wounds, which means he could never stay happy in Middle-Earth. He, Gandalf, Bilbo, and the rest are going to the undying lands (Elf heaven essentially), where mortal beings usually aren't allowed. An exception is made for Frodo and Bilbo because they were ring bearers. In the appendices we learn that Sam becomes mayor of the Shire and lives a long and happy life. After his wife dies, he also sails west to the undying lands because he was briefly a ring bearer. So Frodo and Sam do meet again. Merry and Pippin spend their days with Aragorn in Gondor, and when they die they are buried next to Aragorn's grave. Legolas and Gimli remain friends, and their friendship heals the rift between Dwarf and Elf. When they reach their end, they also sail to the undying lands together. It's a massive honor for Gimli, being a dwarf, and never a ring bearer. Once they leave, the fellowship is gone from Middle Earth forever.
There were so many performances by the cast of these films that I would consider worthy of an Oscar. I always thought that Christopher Lee, who played Saruman, should have got a supporting actor Oscar. He played that part so well that you felt yourself loathing his Saruman so much. That is the sign of a great actor. In real life, Lee was considered by everyone who knew him to be a kind and generous man. Long before the Lord of the Rings were even considered to be made into movies, Christopher Lee had been reading the Lord of the Rings trilogy every year for many years. Of all the main cast members, Lee was probably the most knowledgeable of Tolkien’s works. He was actually the only cast member to have personally met J.R.R. Tolkien. He loved Tolkien’s works and even reprised his role for The Hobbit films despite him being in his 90’s at that point. He passed in June of 2015 at the age of 93. Great actor!
Legolas and Gimli did not separate after the War of the Ring, and spent the rest of their lives together. In fact, when it came time for Legolas to sail for the Undying Lands, Gimli was given special permission to join him, due to Lady Galadriel advocating his worthiness to The Great Powers -- so, canonically, they are still together to this hour.
The way I think about it is that big part of what makes the Shire the Shire is the light hearts of its residents -- but Frodo's heart has become too heavy. It's impossible for his to return to the Shire because it no longer exists for him, and he also feels like he's a danger to the Shire because he might spread his heaviness to others. As you said, he's traumatized, but his trauma cannot be eased or healed, and may in fact drag others down with him. But his trauma _will_ be healed by traveling with the elves, which is why he leaves when his book is written and his friends seem ready to be okay without him.
Elijah Wood once told the story of being at the premier for The Return of the King and he got up and went into the lobby just after Frodo's farewell, just to get a moment by himself, and low and behold, there was Jack Nicholson standing by the bar. So Elijah walks over and says hello. No one else is around, they're completely by themselves and Nicholson says, "Well I dont know what the hell that was about" So, Elijah tries to explain the meaning of Frodo getting on the ship is a kind of metaphor for Heaven, whatever, bla bla bla, and Jack cuts him off and says, "No, I meant the whole movie. I walked out after the first 30 minutes"
Something I still want to add, it’s just a nice to know: at Mount Doom Gandalf searched for the Hobbits with 3 Eagles because he would have saved Gollum as well… Also „I can’t carry it for you, but I can carry you“ and „you bow to no one“ that saying the King of Gondor that those small little „unworthy“ Hobbits doesn’t have to bow to no one as all living beings have to honor them and to respect them and they don’t need to follow those rules even doesn’t have to greet the King with like proper manners is just awesome… I’m not lying when I’m saying I watched those movies like more than a hundred times and I ugly cry every time those scenes come up, it’s crazy…. I feel like it’s even getting „worse and worse“ the more I see those movies… I mean if you don’t tear up or cry during those scenes than come on your not a real human, right? If somebody see‘s or meets someone who doesn’t ugly cry or at least tear up during those movies they are not to be trusted!! The BEST MOVIES EVER MADE IN ALL ASPECTS! Just awesome and worth many rewatches! PS: when you watched The Hobbit trilogy and you are going to rewatch the whole saga than I recommend to you first starting to watch The Hobbit Trilogy and after this The Lord of the Rings Trilogy, just awesome every time! (For new guys/first timers I would recommend the order LotR and than TheHobbit) Edit: Yeah Frodo got severe damaged physically and even way more mentally… he would have loved to be able to life in the shire but he couldn’t just like real soldiers returning from crazy wars like world war 1 … he couldn’t pick up his old life and he needed to go to the undying lands to be able to life on slightly healing and get some relief… it’s a bitter sweet ending because it showcases how such trauma and war changes you and even if you survive it’s changing you and takes parts away from you and takes it’s toll on you, Frodo being split up and not able to live on in the Shire is definitely the bitter part….
In the 3022 of the Third Age, Merry and Pippin opened a shoe shop, but the business failed and they had to close it down in 3023. Aragorn bought them some boots with a metal reinforcing so that toes get better protection.
Out of all the reactions I have watched for LOTR (which is a lot), you are the first reactor I've seen actually seem to want Denethor to live and to get off the pyre and be saved. Just speaks to your sweet nature and heart ❤
i'm a bit shocked people keep saying this 😂 i find it kinda mean anyone would want him to die, he's clearly a deluded ad very grief stricken ... and an a** ....but did he need to be burned alive 😂
Good eyes! Master Samwise does indeed become Mayor of Hobbiton (multiple times), and he and Rosie have 13 beautiful children together! One of their daughters later marries Pippin's son - whom he named Faramir 🥰
I have watched the extended editions of these films every year since they came out and one of the simple pleasures in my life is showing these films to people who have never seen them before, but now I am in med school and I barely have time to sleep, let alone watch the whole trilogy (extended as God intended!) which usually gets me through tough times. It is nice to be able to see the film in bite-sized bits and watch someone enjoy the experience of seeing it for the first time. Love your personality. You have lots of energy and your commentary is hilarious. Watching this was very enjoyable and gave me the dopamine blast needed to get through this week. Thanks for taking the time to edit this. You did awesome!
Don’t worry about Frodo, he basically sailed away to Heaven(Arda)and lived in peace in the Elven Kingdom where no pain or bad memories could touch him ☺️
Natascha, this was a sweet and wonderful reaction. I kept wishing I could give you a hug while you were watching this. Sam ended up being elected mayor of Hobbington 7 times for 7 year terms. Of course when Frodo left him Bag End. He and Rosie had 13 children and when Rosie passed, Sam took a ship to the Undying Lands because he was briefly a ring bearer. Pippin was the leader of the Tooks and Merry became the leader of Buckland, When they retired they both went to Rohan and then Gondor where they spent the rest of their lives.
7:32 I've never seen this b4 in a reaction to this scene, but u had pretty much the exact same expression on your face as Eowyn did on hers when the Nazgul's beast came for Theoden. Eyes wide open, mouth agape, just dumbfounded with shock that it's happening. Very cool, in a reactor-y kind of way! Your great good humor, nifty editing, AND that whole Beautiful Lady in White Galadriel thing you had going on made this a pleasure to behold! Now I gotta go and watch your earlier LOTR reactions, lol! (Your dog is amazing!!)
If it makes you feel any better, after a long, honored life, and after Rosie passed away due to old age, Sam was allowed to sail to the west and join Frodo and Gandalf. Had he not also been a ring bearer, he wouldn't have been allowed. I suffer from an affliction called empathy. I very nearly matched you tear for tear, whether they were tears of sadness or joy. In the extremely unlikely chance that you'd cross the ocean and accidentally run into me, I'd give you a hug of thanks for the fine job you did. Since that won't happen, I'll give you a virtual hug.
Legolas took Gimli, as the only Dwarf ever to be granted that honor, on the last ship ever to sail to Valinor, after they had their little adventures ❤ I think you would enjoy the books and the Silmarillon, at least as an audio book or something :) or watch some of the beautiful lore videos all over youtube Whole LotR love ❤
1:02:58 Legolas and Gimli absolutely get a happy ending, starting with the two of them taking a road trip together to settle a bet they make in the books. Legolas takes Gimli back to Fangorn Forest to hang out with Treebeard and the ancient-ass trees. Gimli takes Legolas to the Glittering Caves, which is the cave system under Helm's Deep where the women and children took shelter during the siege-turns out if you go further in, that's a massive cave system of astounding natural beauty, absolutely dripping in gems and precious metals. Legolas enjoys the caves despite his misgivings. Gimli... endures going back to Fangorn. He's still not big on sentient trees as a concept. Legolas stays about another 120ish years, along with some other woodland elves that either delayed their departure or chose not to leave at all. They live in and rehabilitate Ithilien, which is the wooded region of Gondor immediately outside Mordor where Frodo and Sam first meet Faramir. Gimli establishes and rules over a dwarven settlement in the Glittering Caves, and contributes a lot of material and skill to everyone's post-war repair and reconstruction, including forging new gates for Minas Tirith out of steel and mithril, just to flex. Let's see any fiery wolf-shaped battering ram ever knock those out. Bitch. When Aragorn dies after 122 years as king, Legolas and Gimli are the last of the Fellowship, and Gimli is getting quite old. Legolas builds them a boat and they sail into the West, making Gimli the only known dwarf to enter the Undying Lands, on the basis of his deep friendship with Legolas and the favor of Galadriel (those three strands of hair she gave him were Historically Significant™ and kind of a massive political statement for Ancient Elven Drama reasons).
The Song and lyrics,performed by Annie Lennox,for the end credits,really helps understand frodos final journey to the undying lands.After he got poisoned by the witchkings blade,It was for the best and is a happy place for him to go and recuperate! Be Happy Natascha🧝🏼♀️🐺❤💪🏼😊👍🏻
Yeah, that's the price Frodo paid. He _cannot_ have a normal life, that was his sacrifice. And in the end, the only way he could get some respite was to go with the elves into the Undying Lands to live off the rest of his life in relative peace. If it's of any comfort to you, in the appendices of the books, it is said that Legolas stays behind to explore the beauties of Middle-Earth with Gimli, but after long years he indeed turns his eyes to the West as well, builds himself a ship, and then leaves for the Undying Lands. Along with him, Gimli is offered a ride, making him the only dwarf to ever set foot over there. And what's more, after the death of Sam's wife, he gives Frodo's book to his son, and sets off for the Undying Lands as well, thus meeting Frodo in the end. It is something all Ringbearers (Bilbo, Frodo, and briefly Sam) do, because the terror of the Ring was too hard to bear even after its destruction.
Honestly, your reactions throughout the whole trilogy have been my favorite by far. Thank you again and I think you deserve another cup of coffee for all your hard work and tears. 😂
One thing I really liked about the ending is that it wasn't until Frodo reached up to grab Sam's hand that the One Ring started to melt. Until that point, he hadn't truly let it go.
Yes, it is literally because he cannot get over the trauma of the stabbing on Mount Doom and the other injuries. It is very good for Frodo. You will be happy to know that Sam lived a very full life, had many children, and after Rosie passed away, Sam too was taken to the Undying Lands, to reunite with Frodo.
The oliphants aren't evil: they are animals bred for an evil use and, unfortunately, all went extinct after this. Touching one of the Nazgûl, especially the Witch-King, sickens people: this happened to Eowyn and Merry. It's a sort of spiritual poison. In the book, Merry didn't recover quickly enough to take part in the final battle. Gandalf did say in TTT that he was back in Middle-Earth only until his task (helping mortals get rid of Sauron) was done. You're right: Frodo has PTSD and leaving for Valinor and some elven healing is his only chance at a good life. Sam is the hero who gets the girl and the happy ending.
Also you are more right than you know when you say, "Is that his little girl?" Sean Astin's real life daughter is playing Elanor Gamgee at the end. And Valinor is heaven, kind of, in that it has angels and archangels (Maiar and Valar) wandering around interacting with the elves who live there.
It is well recorded in historical accounts that Elephants (hence Oliphuants too) can be driven mad by the noise and pain in battle and turn, in berserk rage, on everything around them, killing anything that is near. Legolas' mercy killing the oliphaunt probably saved more lives (on BOTH sides) than simply jumping off would have.
There are so many great moments in RoTK, one is that Rohirrim Cavalry Charge, this scene is probably the most epic charge scene I have seen in film making . I still remember watching this in cinema ( I was in my 20s) with friends which was like 20 or so years ago, ( now I am in my 40s with wife and kids), the audience reactions were just as epic, everyone was just cheering as soon as Theoden lead the charge, it's incredible to see the King lead the charge in the front line, not at the rear lol.....how can we forget that inspiring speech and warcry by him, to boost the morale of his troops which by the way is already greatly outnumbered, the words they chanted " death" is the proof that they know that some of them will die as they charged head on against the Mordor lines. Not to mention that Rohan theme music , its just so beautiful. I still watch this scene once in a while, even though its only via TV or Laptop, the scene still gives me goosebump.
Tolkien always maintained that Sam was the true hero of the story. Tolkien was a Lieutenant in the British Army during WW I. As an officer he would have had a soldier assigned to him as an aide or manservant, known as a "Batman." Often bonds of loyalty, mutual respect & friendship would form between officers & their Batman that crossed the traditional bounds of rank & class. Tolkien marveled at the shows of heroism & bravery exhibited by from the ordinary soldiers under his command, including his Batman. It is this officer-Batman comradery that he based Frodo & Sam's relationship on. Loved your reactions to all 3 films. Seldom have I seen such an emotionally invested reaction. Thank You!
There Is magic in these movies. Magic that not a single movie or tv-series has ever even come close to capture for 23 years. And I believe there will never be something that could possibly replace them. I'm 31 years old, i've seen these movies COUNTLESS times, and I still cry like a baby every time Sam says: ''I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you'', and Aragorn to the Hobbits: ''My friends, you bow to no one''. I recommend watching The Hobbit trilogy as well, where we get to see more about Bilbo and his journey, and everything that happened leading up to LOTR. Some people didn't like the Hobbit, but I believe they also captured some of the magic I talked about earlier.
Next Trilogy The Hobbit Extended Edition Of The Adventures Of Bilbo Baggin: (1) An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition (2) The Desolation Of Smaug Extended Edition (3) The Battle Five Armie Extended Edition
@nataschasummers I agree - When you watch the Hobbit.. go for the extended versions.. more detailed story telling and scenes make the Hobbit movies better, IMO.
And yes... the movie doesn't really tell you that Frodo dies, but he does. They go "west to valinor, where no mortals can go." It's where you go to "heal' before death. It's not a good ending for Frodo, that's kind of the point of his character is that he's the Martyr and Sam's the Hero. We saw how the ring ruined everyone's souls, and Frodo carried it 17 years and all the way through Mordor as it got heavier and heavier on his soul (notice is movie his neck was scarred like being covered in burns where it hung). It's another reason he doesn't want anyone else touching or having it, besides the obvious power it has on him. "Give it back!! It's my burden to bear...." He doesn't want it to do to Sam what it's done to him and Gollum. They also don't really make it as clear in the movies how much he suffers when he gets back to the Shire, though he hangs on just long enough to write the book and see that Sam gets his family. Note, even by the time in the FIRST movie Gandalf wants him to throw it in the fireplace to read the runes .... but Frodo can't... he'd already owned it all of the time Gandalf was out researching. Nobody who's ever held the ring can destroy it -- hence the only thing that destroyed it in the end was the mercy he kept showing Gollum, in that twist of fate. In the books Frodo reminds Sam that he too will have to go to the Havens, since he was a ring-bearer too -- if only for a little while. And, indeed Sam does eventually, as the last ring-bearer on middle-earth 😭
Later, also Sam went to Valinor, the Undying lands, as he's been also a ringbearer, if only for a short while. He left the book to his daughter, Elanor. Legolas also in the end went to Valinor, and he brought Gimli with him, after he was given special dispensation by the Valar, the Powers of Arda, the highest order of angelic beings in Tolkien's world. As far as we know, he was the only dwarf who ever received this honor.
so basically to put it at a battlefield scale, saurons/and saruman armies combined together was about 70,000 to the other army, of only little over 6,000 troops
When the Witch King says "no Man can kill me", its just a myth that he had been told so many times he believed it himself. Instead, what allows Eowyn to kill him, is the dagger that Merry stabbed him with, it was magical.
“But when Aragorn arose all that beheld him gazed in silence, for it seemed to them that he was revealed to them now for the first time. Tall as the sea-kings of old, he stood above all that were near; ancient of days he seemed and yet in the flower of manhood; and wisdom sat upon his brow, and strength and healing were in his hands, and a light was about him. And then Faramir cried: 'Behold the King!' And in that moment all the trumpets were blown, and the King Elessar went forth,"
36:00 So, head canon moment, but I truly believe that it's quite literally impossible to throw the ring into Mount Doom willingly. Though we only have 2 examples, Frodo and Isildur, both of these characters are altogether good and virtuous, but the ring has a level of influence that just can't be ignored. I think no matter who is standing in that spot, if they have the ring in their hands, even if they just sacrificed so much to finally get there, whatever influencing/corrupting effect the ring has is amplified to maximum when you're standing in that spot above the lava, about to throw it in. Which means that the only way the ring can be destroyed is by accident. Which means Gollum's interference was essential to the success of the mission, which is what Gandalf was hinting at in Fellowship with the line, "I still believe he has some part to play for good or evil."
Frodo never promised to destroy the Ring, but to take it as far as he could with that quest in mind. He spent basically all of himself to do it and there was no healing that could mend the wounds he had suffered. He went to the undying lands where the presence of the elves and the Valar would help till he eventually passed in peace. Tolkien himself stated that no one could have willfully destroyed the ring in the place of its making where its power was absolute. The Ring meet its end by accident or chance and that was the only way it could have been.
Legolas did eventually leave Middle-Earth, he was amongst the last Elves to do so and he made his very own boat for the purpose and when at last he set sail, he took a by then very old Gimli with him for the two remained the closest of friends for the rest of their lives and would not be parted from one another. So in the end Merry, Pippin and Aragorn passed away from old age and were buried next to each other. And Sam, Gimli and Legolas sailed west and joined Frodo in the Undying Lands.
Frodo literally gave himself to "the cause"... And there's no taking that back or changing that. He gave the ultimate sacrifice. He is immortal now, though...I believe. Its a reminder that sacrifices must be made and some may need to lay it all on the line for those they love. So many things to love in this trilogy...the warmth, the detail, the MUSIC, THE SYMBOLISM, etc. etc. Glad you loved it and are NOW a "Shireling" along with the rest of us.😉 You are ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS & HILARIOUS!!
Frodo isn't immortal. He still died eventually. It's mentioned that nothing can prevent a mortal from dying. You can heal them and maybe keep them healthy into their twilight years, but no force can stop death except Eru himself.
Nat, stay calm about Frodo. The land of Valinor where the elves go is the only place where he would finally be free of the burden of the ring and live in peace (apply to Bilbo also). So yes, it was a happy ending for him. This was an emotional video!, hope you have enjoyed this epic journey as we all did once ❤ and if you are doing the Hobbit trilogy I'm sure you will also love it.
Natascha, your reactions to this trilogy have been first rate. Honestly. You dive so deeply into these movies that your reactions become part of the experience that I never knew I was missing. Such an inherent talent.
awhhh this is too kind, made my night ❤️ so glad literally anyone enjoys my content, never really expected so many people to enjoy and be so kind to me so soon ❤️
Great reactions, its always an amazing journey watching people experience my favorite shows! You saying "Summat" just like Hagrid and the various harry potter references are epic
18:35 So, funny story. Peter Jackson had Sean Astin do that line multiple times trying to get the right take, and then he asked Sean to do one take where Sam hesitates to give the ring back to Frodo, which of course is the take they ended up using because there's a lot to chew on. Was the ring already starting to take a hold of Sam? An interesting question. However, I think my favorite interpretation of the scene is the one you almost came away with. That Sam hesitates to give the ring back because he's seen first hand what it has been doing to Frodo and how much of an immense burden it has become. He hesitates out of pure concern for Frodo and whether he can handle the burden for the rest of the journey. If Sam did want to keep the ring for himself, it was only to pull the burden off of Frodo and save him from it.
I still remember watching that bit where Frodo’s hanging the ring over the lava in the theater and hearing everyone talking to themselves. “Come ON!” “Just do it!” Good stuff.
Sam clobbers Gollum with a stone at a crucial moment in the film. In the Two Towers there's a scene where Merry and Pippin are throwing stones at Orcs from Treebeard's shoulders and in the Fellowship they throw stones at the Orcs just before they are kidnapped. This is s specific skill unique to Hobbits. They were known to hunt rabbits by throwing stones. It was said if you saw a Hobbit stoop to pick up a rock, you better run or else you were likely to end up unconscious
People always say "Everyone needs a Sam" but really what everyone should try is to be more like Sam. Be the Sam you want to see in the world.
There should be more "likes" for this statement. :(
The reason we have so few Sams, is that no one wants to be a servant to someone anymore. Frodo wasn't Sam's "friend", he was his master. So Sam put Frodo's needs above his own, and was always looking for ways he could serve him.
what a great message
@@bryanmyers5620 Wrong
@@bryanmyers5620I think you might have misunderstood the books a little bit. While Sam was, in fact, Frodo's gardener, their relationship is much closer to friendship than master-servant bond . Re-read the books and you will maybe see the difference between pure sense of duty and genuine friendship. Of course there is the respect involved, not only based on their status, but also the fact Frodo is 12 years older than Sam in the books, however, one does not have to necessarily exclude the other.
You can read Frodo's last page of the Red Book of Westmarch over his shoulder when he's sat in Bag End, and the words make my heart melt every time I see them:
"Samwise Gamgee was elected Mayor of Hobbiton, and although it took great courage, he finally asked for the hand of fair Rosie Cotton. It was the bravest thing he ever did."
Rosie Cotton was the most beautiful woman in all 3 movies, IMO.
But then again, she was the most woman-like, too.
Fun fact: many years in the future Legolas also boards a ship to The Undying Lands and is accompanied by none other than Gimli who in spite of being neither an elf nor a ring bearer was still granted such a position of honor that he became the one and only dwarf to ever be allowed into Valinor.
Tol Eressëa
Peter Jackson said he would of traded all his Oscars for Sean Astin to get an Oscar nomination
Well, there wasn't enough Oscars for everyone, and everyone from Sean Astin to the horse trainers deserved one for this trilogy.
Easy to say that when you know it's not possible 😂
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I know right? With every passing year, every time I rewatch these movies it is more and more obvious that the academy awards whiffed on that one.
In the books, Sam is an absolute legend and Sean Astin truly brought this to life on the big screen.
Sam is annoying AF@@johnthiele984
Fun fact when Aragorn says "For Frodo" and charges at the black gate the elven choir in the background says "If by my life or death I can protect you I will. You have my sword." Which is what he said to Frodo at the Council of Elrond.
That's just beautiful
And somehow, his horse disappears out from under him.
Dang this just made me cry again. I’m guessing Peter Jackson added that??
@pencil6965 probably a collaborative effort between him and Howard Shore, there's so many cool details hidden in the choir lyrics throughout the trilogy. Like when Boromir protects Merry and Pippin "The tree is bare, the fountain still. Where are you, Boromir? We hear your call. But cannot find you..."
And in Boromir’s death scene, “I do not love the sword for its sharpness, the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his fierceness, I love only that which they defend.” ( I may not have it word for word) That is said by his brother, Faramir, in the book.
Merry and Pippin become the leaders of their respective clans, the Brandybucks and the Tooks. When they were aged and widowed, they returned to Minas Tirith and were entombed on either side of King Ellessar (Aragorn.)
Sam and Rosie had 13 children, and Sam was elected mayor several times. When Rosie died on a midsummer's eve, Sam gave the Red Book to his oldest daughter, and was never seen again. The story was told in her family that he went to the Gray Havens and took a ship, the last of the ring-bearers to pass over the sea.
And Pippin marries Diamond of Long Cleeve (who we see next to him when he catches the boquet, hence he look he gives her) and they'll have a son named Faramir.
This is from the Simarillion?
@@wmichael78 Appendix to LOTR if I remember right
Remember Galadriel's words to Elrond in The Two Towers? _In his heart, Frodo begins to understand: the Quest will claim his life. You know this. You have foreseen it. It is the risk we all took._
In the end, the quest did claim his life. He didn't die _physically,_ but he was so wounded spiritually and emotionally that he simply could not find peace and comfort in Middle-earth. Not even in The Shire, which he loved most dearly. So he left for the Undying Lands, the one place where he could find true rest and healing until the end of his days.
That is awesome that they realized that so to compensate they brought him with them. They wanted to help his grief. Great storytelling.
@@jordanmcbride9215 All the ring-bearers were allowed into the Undying Lands. It's why Bilbo was also allowed to go. Even Sam, who only briefly held the Ring, was allowed to go to the Undying Lands after his wife passes from old age.
Epic is just a slight understatement, but I said the same thing. I was in awe of the Grandeur the way I was drawn into the story and all the emotions of sacrifice and loss were part of me as I watched all the movies. I did not want it to end. I wanted more stories. I wanted to feel the happy innocence of the shire like a warm embrace of a loved one.
I think these movies embody what we want in friendship and love even though there may be great loss and all things may go away that this struggle would be the one we would all join to save what we hold, dear to our hearts.
I think everyone underplay's Frodo's physical wound from the Morgal Blade that the King of the Nazgul stabbed him with. This wound took a great toll from Frodo and bothered him to his final days in Middle Earth. I don't think Frodo suffered from any type of PTSD. Rather, he was severely conflicted, or guilt-ridden. In his mind, he failed to do his duty in the quest. HE DID NOT DESTROY THE RING. He knows this and he knows Sam knows this. I'm one million percent certain Sam took this knowledge to the grave with him...but in Frodo's own mind, his own actions were cowardly. And it was likely unbearable knowing Sam knew all this. Sam knew that Frodo was heavily influenced by the ring and he regarded Frodo as the greatest hero ever. But, wrongly, Frodo didn't see it that way.
@@ajalvarez3111 all you say is true. But its also true that he did suffer from ptsd. Tolkien himself confirmed this in one of his letters
" I can't carry it for you, but i can carry you" still has be bawling my eyes out. Every. Single. Time.
Heroic and inspiring as Sam is, the swelling music by Howard Shore does part of the heavy lifting in that moment.
Really?
For me it’s the “My friends, you bow to no one” my heart sinks Every. Single. Time.
Similar sentiments in quotes poems, movies and tv:
"He ain't heavy, father. He's my brother" - inscription outside Boystown, Nebraska
Man: "But I have noticed that during the most troublesome times in my life, There is only one set of footprints."...
God: "When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
- Footprints in the Sand
"When you can't run any more, you crawl. When you can't crawl, you find someone to carry you"
- Browncoat Motto, "Firefly"
"No greater love hath a man, than he lay down his life for his brother. Not for millions, not for glory, not for fame, but for one person, in the dark, where no one will ever know or see." - Sebastian the Inquisitor (aka Jack the Ripper), "Babylon 5"
Frodo is injured beyond repair down to his soul. The Shire isn’t enough to relieve the pain. He goes with Gandalf and Bilbo to live forever with the elves into myth and legend. Elvish magic and medicine will soothe his pain some as he lives out the rest of his life.
A big inspiration for this was that Tolkien fought in World War 1, and saw the horrors of that war and what it did to his countrymen and brothers - it scarred them in such a deep way that not even returning home was enough to heal many of them. This is spoken through Frodo’s experience.
No. Frodo does not live forever in the undying lands. They are not called undying lands because no-one dies there. Frodo lives out his life and dies but many members of the fellowship actually join him later.
@@AngelicDaemon i thought his immortality was left ambiguous. Since eru took a vested interest sending gandalf back i think its more likely he is forever immortal.at least part of the reason they are called undying lands is that there are only undying beings there. I believe that the four i can think of that werent immortal that went there were granted it. Aerendil definately was but obv didnt stay. Gimli bilbo and frodo immortal.
@@MrSimonNayNo, they are not immortal. They can't go to Valinor proper as mortal beings would go mad there. They go instead to an island off the east coast of Valinor called Tol Eressea. That is where Bilbo, Frodo and later Sam and Gimli live out the rest of their lives. Gimli was never invited and went on spec. with Legolas. Galadriel intervened and petitioned for him to stay and he was allowed.
@@ronweber1402I’ll add that Tolkien himself stated that the Eldar, while able to heal the minds and hearts of mortals, cannot stop Death. That power alone Eru holds. Bilbo, Frodo, Gimli eventually meet death.
Frodo and Bilbo (and Gimli) do die and in fact they're lives go more quickly in the Undying Lands due to the immortality of everybody and thing else around them. Tolkien explains it as similar to a moth flying too close to a bright flame.
14:20 This confusing scene of Eowyn unconscious is explained in the book. Anyone who takes a weapon to a Nazgul becomes deathly ill. Eowyn (and Merry) go into a coma after stabbing the Witch King. Eomer finds his sister on the battlefield and thinks she is dead. But she is still breathing, so they take her into the city, where Aragorn revives her, because "the hands of the King are the hands of a healer"
It's my least favourite part of the extended editions haha, because it's so needlessly confusing. If they showed her passing out after Theoden's death then at least the audience would understand that she is either unconscious or dead, but as it is it's just "She's alive and crying - they think she's DEAD?!?! WHAT HAPPENED?!?!"
I will not say, "Do not weep," for not all tears are an evil.
And thus ends the journey of Natascha the White; who has passed through fire and despair, to tears of joy and bliss.
I'm glad to see you took our advice, and came prepared with a roll of tissues!
Take heart in the knowledge that Frodo and Bilbo have earned their place in the Undying Lands, and that Gandalf, Elrond and Galadriel have gone HOME at last.
You have shared with me one of the best reactions I have seen in years - you made it fun as well as engaging, and I'm glad I could see it with you!
Wow, thank you this means so much - i'm so glad you enjoyed them ❤️
Same
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God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and that God raised Him from the dead and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well. Repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart, that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him shall not perish but have eternal life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him.
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LORD willing, all humans may commit sin of almost every kind (gay, straight), and that's wrong, and all humans sin, as God tells us through the The Holy Bible, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.", "Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you." and, “For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."
@@Dagenspear You have no power here -- King Theoden
@@Dagenspear Asmodeus wants your soul! Give in to the Lord of the Nine Hells! Lol
Sam eventually joins Frodo in Valinor in his old age after his wife passes. But you are right Frodo basically has PTSD and so he goes to the undying lands to find peace.
That's awesome, never knew that!
@@alexcherrypicks Yeah, Sam was afforded the opportunity because he was technically a ringbearer. He carried the ring after he rescued Frodo from Shelob.
Except Tolkien wrote that mortals lives are sped up in Valinor and that Frodo would die within 6 months and his soul would go to the halls of Mandos where all mortal souls go, so Frodo would be long dead when Sam arrives
@@GirlOfTheTardis I thought valinor was supposed to be a place where every living thing has eternal life,
@Alkarion26 no its called the undying lands because those who live there; elves, Valar, maiar, etc, are immortal. If a mortal being tries to go there they'll either never find it if uninvited or if invited will arrive but have their lifespan shortened, though will live in bliss during that time. It is in Tolkiens' appendixes and some of his published letters. The ringbearers were allowed (all in old age except frodo who was in his 50s) because of the trauma of wearing the ring meant only the bliss and peace of valinor could afford them some healing before a quick death.
Frodo got the happiest of endings! A peaceful life with the elves, the companionship of Bilbo for a while and even reunited with Sam before they both died. He would have been in pain and unhappy, had he stayed in middle earth. Great journey with you, Tasch 🙂
Many folks complained about the many endings in the film... But the endings make 100 pages in the books. Tolkien was well versed with the "hero's quest" that ends when the hero gets back. The hero isn't Aragorn getting crowned, or Gandalf in his many labors. Nor is it even frodo who bore the weight of the quest. The story ends with SAM getting home. He is the hero and Tolkien wanted to make good and sure we all knew that SAM is the hero who makes his homecoming.
But you'll be happy to know after many long years, after Rosie dies, SAM was given the honor to be brought to the undying lands to be reunited with Frodo as sam, even only for that brief time Frodo was captured, was the ringbearer.
Great analysis!
Also, I really enjoyed all the reactions! I look forward to seeing what you do next. definitely got a fan out of me.
In the books Sam searched the towers for four months before he found Frodo. He did get awarded a treasure for his dedication... to garden Bag End in the company of his own family. That really was Sam's (Sean Austin's) little girl at the end. Frodo really did suffer not just the burden of the ring but the enduring pain of the stab, the crush of the troll's spear, and, though downplayed in the films, the interaction with the swamp spirits.
What did you mean about searching for four months? Frodo is taken into cirith ungol march 13 and they escape on march 15.
I've always felt that Peter Jackson earned every single one of those endings.
There are two scenes in RoTK that are just beautiful, first one is when Samwise said: I cannot carry it for you but I can carry you - really goes to show what a friend Sam is to Frodo, really love that friendship bond between them
The other one is when the newly crowned King Aragorn said to the hobbits: " you bow to no one"
those two scenes always melt my heart...so heart warming
Galadriel foresaw this. The ringbearer realizes the quest will claim his life. He survived in body, but he lost all else. It took his previous life.
I think every person who ever was in posession of the ring needs to leave middle-earth and go to the undying lands(valinor).
Frodo can truly find peace there. Having the ring for so long plus the morgul blade wound made his life so hard.
Even sam left after many years after his wife passed. Because he too had the ring while he saved frodo. In the books it's described how the ring tried to tempt him, but his idea of using its power was turning mordor into beautiful gardens. It also boosted his already powerful bravery and skill to free frodo.
So in a way, it's a happy ending for frodo.
Additional fun fact: after travelling middle-earth together and seeing all the great sights(and after aragorns passing after many years), legolas AND gimli left middle-earth together. Gimli was the only dwarf who was granted that honor.
6:49 What Gandalf was saying was very positive... He was telling Pippin that the afterlife awaits. And that it can be beautiful. So not everyone has to fear it. His face when he's saying that is wonderful. I was hoping you'd watch him closer, and notice the joy while he's describing it. There was nothing sad about that.
And the music playing there is the same as in the very end. When they're leaving Middle Earth. The song is called "Into the West". And Annie Lennox is singing it. Peter Jackson knew right that he wanted to give her the ending theme. Wise man.
Faramir and Eowyn love story, it´s quite deeper and incredibly romantic in the book. Here we only see a few nice moments.
Faramir and Éowyn settled down in Emyn Arnen, a range of hills in Ithilien in sight of Minas Tirith, and Aragorn made Faramir the Lord of Emyn Arnen. He and Éowyn had at least one son named Elboron, who followed his father as Steward and Prince of Ithilien when Faramir died.
Since Faramir's my favorite character in the book, what they did to his character in The Two Towers (making him an antagonist to Frodo and Gollum in order to ratchet up the dramatic tension of the story), is what I'll never be okay with.
But disregarding the most detailed and earned romance of the whole trilogy (Aragorn and Arwen's romance happened mostly off screen and you only get the details in the appendix, and Eowyn's infatuation with Aragorn was never reciprocated because Arwen never was going to leave), felt like such a huge missed opportunity. I was glad that at least some of it made it into extended version though.
@@bryanmyers5620My favourite elf was always Glorfindel, and when the movies came out I couldn't get over them completely cutting him out of them. In retrospect, I understand the decision to replace his parts with Arwen in order to give her more screentime.
@@yllepluff Unfortunately for Glorfindel, He didn't do enough in the books to justify keeping him in the movies. Even the cartoon cut him out and they were closer to the books in some ways. I wish that somehow a studio that doesn't meddle, or push the message, would make a TV show with 20 to 50 episodes that follows the books closely, uses Weta Workshop, and is directed by a Tolkien lover. Basically, I wish Peter Jackson and crew could have done it back then.
Them getting to know each other developed over a week or so of their recuperation (along with Merry, who was still sick and had no use of the arm that stabbed the witch king).
The movie covers all of that in a few seconds.
3:20 it's so refreshing to see that despite all his terrible shortcomings, you don't wish for Denethor to die a painful death. "Many that live deserve death, and some that die deserve life." Gandalf really is your spirit animal.
14:20 landing an attack on the Witch King results in a sort of poisonous infection called Black Breath, that's why Mary recoiled in pain when he put his knife in the Witch King's leg, and why Eowyn seemed fine then wasn't.
Your reaction to possibly the greatest film trilogy of all time has been incredible to witness.
The world & stories of Middle Earth are such an amazing, mindblowing gift from Prof Tolkien. Seeing the trilogy in the cinema was a truly awesome experience & seeing someone who’s never witnessed this cinematic masterpiece become so invested in the story & characters never gets old.
Below is detailed what happened to the Fellowship, following Frodo’s departure to the Undying Lands.
Sam:
Samwise following his return to the Shire and the departure of his beloved Frodo, had an important role in Shire politics in the years to come. Sam married Rose after the War of the Ring and they had a daughter named Elanor. In the year 1427, Samwise Gamgee is elected mayor of the shire for the first time and in the year 1431 has another daughter named Goldilocks. In the year 1442 Samwise and his family travel to Gondor, where they stay for a year in the fair city of Minas Tirith. Following his first election, Samwise is elected mayor of the Shire almost continuously until the year 1469 where he is elected for the seventh and final time at the age of ninety-six. In the year 1482, Sam’s beloved wife Rose dies on the 22nd of September. Following this, Sam rides out from Bag End, passing down the red book given to him by Frodo to his first daughter Elanor. According to his daughter, Sam travelled to the Grey Havens, whereupon he crossed the sea into Valinor, the last of the ring bearers to leave Middle Earth, reunited once more with Frodo in the Undying Lands.
Merry & Pippin:
In the year 1427, Pippin marries a hobbit named Diamond of Long Cleeve and in the year 1430, his son Faramir is born, named in respect of the great friendship Pippin and Faramir share. In 1434, Pippin becomes the Thain of the Shire, meaning he was in charge of the Shire militia in the event they went to war and becomes well-respected in the Shire. In 1463 Pippin’s son Faramir marries Goldilocks, daughter of Samwise, linking our hobbits together in the bonds of matrimony and family adding to their already deep bond of fellowship. Meanwhile Merry, in 1432, called Merry the Magnificent by Shirefolk, becomes the master of Buckland. For this appointment, he receives gifts from King Éomer of Rohan and from Lady Éowyn of Ithilien. It is said Merry marries a hobbit called Estella. In 1484, Merry receives a message from King Éomer who wishes to see him again before he dies, by this time Merry himself was 102. Merry and Pippin, handing their titles down to their sons, set off together to Rohan, Merry being present when Éomer dies. Following the death of Éomer Pippin and Merry Following the death of Éomer Pippin and Merry continue on to Gondor and live out the rest of their life in Minas Tirith. Following their deaths their bodies were entombed in Rath Dínen, the hall in which the great kings and stewards of Gondor were laid to rest.
Gimli & Legolas:
Gimli and Legolas also had quite the journey following the defeat of Sauron, travelling together and continuing their unbreakable bond of friendship. Gimli was named ‘elf friend’ one of the only dwarves to be named such, and brought a band of dwarves from Erebor to the caves behind Helms Deep. The caves in the books are known for being one of the wonders of the north, with jewels lining the walls and ceilings. Gimli becomes the Lord of the Glittering Caves and together with his people, he fashions new gates for Minas Tirith made of mithril and steel to replace the ones destroyed by the Witch King. Gimli took Legolas to the Glittering Caves whereupon he was said to be speechless at their beauty, the first time a Dwarf “claimed victory over an Elf in a contest of words.” IIn turn Legolas took Gimli to all the forests of Middle Earth, including Fangorn, educating Gimli on the beauty that dwelt there. Legolas also brought elves out from the Greenwood into Ithilen where they dwelt for a number of years, transforming Ithilien into the most beautiful land in the West. Legolas and the elves also aided Gimli in the rebuilding of Minas Tirith, making it once more the jewel in the crown of the men of the west.
Aragorn:
Aragorn, now King Elessar married Arwen, and it is detailed that he had a son, and numerous daughters and through him the royal House of Telcontar was founded. Elessar took many steps to fix the divided kingdom which he inherited. Though Sauron was defeated, there were many who still had evil in their minds and sought to disrupt Middle Earth thus Elessar defended Middle Earth, protecting the kingdom of men. He re-established the Great Council of Gondor, and rebuilt and repaired the tower of Orthanc, in which he placed the palantír taken from Saruman. In Orthanc Elessar discovers heirlooms belonging to the house of Eorl of Rohan. He further discovered, with the help of Gimli, treasures belonging to Isildur which were lost following his death. Elessar repatriates these, returning them back to their rightful place in Gondor. Elessar also leaves the valley of Orthanc under the control of the Ents, who rename the valley ‘Treegarth of Orthanc.’
Although pre-occupied with his kingdom, that didn’t stop Elessar from journeying to see his friends, bound together forever by a strength of friendship which surpasses our comprehension. In 1427 Elessar declared the Shire a free land, forbidding men from entering it. In 1436 Elessar came north to Brandybuck visiting Pippin, Merry and Sam, giving the Star of the Dúnedain to Master Samwise. Elessar also expanded the Shire, encompassing within its boundaries the lands up to the Emyn Beraid. Elessar died in the year 1541 after 122 years of kingship at the age of 210. Of his death, it is written “he fell into sleep. Then a great beauty was revealed in him…And long there he lay, an image of the splendour of the Kings of Men in glory undimmed before the breaking of the world.” Arwen died a year after Elessar and it is written that “the light of her eyes was quenched and it seemed to her people that she had become cold and grey as nightfall in winter that comes without a star.” She died in Lorien, where she lived alone in that silent land for the last year of her life. There in the halls of Rath Dínen beside the tomb of the Elessar, lay the tombs of Meriadoc and Peregrin Took buried by his side, as faithful in death as they were in life.
With the passing of Elessar, Legolas builds a ship in the Grey Havens and sails to the Undying Lands, accompanied by Gimli, the only dwarf to ever be given this honour. It is said that Galadriel, high among the Elves obtained this grace for Gimli, allowing him entry into Valinor with his beloved friend Legolas. And with the passing of Legolas and Gimli into the Undying Lands, so to did the fellowship pass forever out of Middle Earth and their like was never seen again.
um, can you give us the actual years please? or at least the years that far more people recognize. like, the one ring is destroyed in year 3019 of the third age.
@@CursedAnqxl hope this helps?
Note: TA = Third Age, FA = Fourth Age
The Fourth Age began with the crowning of King Elessar (Aragorn).
September TA 3018: Frodo leaves the Shire for Rivendell
October 20th TA 3018: Frodo reaches Rivendell
March 25th TA 3019: The One Ring is destroyed
May 1st TA 3019: King Elessar is crowned.
It took 11 months, one week & six days for the One Ring to be taken to Mount Doom & destroyed.
November 4th TA 3019: Frodo serves as Deputy Mayor of The Shire
November 25th TA 3019: Sam begins the reforestation of The Shire
3020 TA: Faramir weds Éowyn
April 1st TA 3020: Lobelia Sackville-Baggins dies
May 1st TA 3020: Sam weds Rosie Cotton
October 6th TA 3020: Frodo becomes ill
March 25th TA 3021: Elanor Gamgee is born
September 21st - 29th TA 3021: The Ringbearers depart The Grey Havens
October 6th TA 3021: Sam returns to Bag End from The Grey Havens
FA 0006: Elessar decrees that The Shire is off limits
FA 0006: Sam becomes Mayor of The Shire
FA 0006: Pippin weds Diamond of Long Cleeve
FA 0011: Merry becomes Master of Buckland
FA 0013: Pippin becomes Thain of The Shire
FA 0013: Sam, Merry & Pippin become Councillors of the North Kingdom
FA 0015: Elessar & Arwen dwell in Arnor
FA 0015; Elessar & Arwen visit the Hobbits at Brandywine Bridge
FA 0030: Elanor Gamgee weds Fastred of Greenholm
June 30th FA 0061: Rosie Gamgee dies
September 22nd FA 0061: Sam departs Bag End for The Grey Havens
September 24th FA 0061: Sam gives Elanor The Red Book
September 30th FA 0061: Sam departs The Grey Havens for The Undying Lands
May 1st FA 0063: Faramir Took becomes Thain of The Shire
May 1st FA 0063: Merry & Pippin depart The Shire for Rohan
July 1st FA 0063: Merry & Pippin arrive at Edoras
October 1st FA 0063: Éomer dies
May 1st FA 0064: Merry & Pippin settle in Gondor
FA 0067: Merry & Pippin die
FA 0072: Faramir dies
1st March FA 0120: King Elessar dies
1st March FA 0120: Eldarion becomes king
1st March FA 0120: Legolas & Gimli depart The Grey Havens for The Undying Lands
FA 0121: Arwen dies
FA 0220: King Eldarion dies
@@davidanderson1639 oh wow, thank you so much for this~
@@CursedAnqxl you’re welcome!! It’s by no ways complete; but I thought it best to mainly include things relating to The Fellowship.
@@CursedAnqxlWhere you might find it confusing, the dates such as 1427 above. The Shire had it's own date system and that's what they are. As if it wasn't enough for Tolkien to create several races, at least 3 complete languages and 10,000 years of history!
The final lines of the book right after Frodo’s departure, leaving behind his friends and Middle-earth:
(...) But to Sam the evening deepened to darkness as he stood at the Haven; and as he looked at the grey sea he saw only a shadow on the waters that was soon lost in the West. There still he stood far into the night, hearing only the sigh and murmur of the waves on the shores of Middle-earth, and the sound of them sank deep into his heart. Beside him stood Merry and Pippin, and they were silent.
At last the three companions turned away, and never again looking back they rode slowly homewards; and they spoke no word to one another until they came back to the Shire, but each had great comfort in his friends on the long grey road.
At last they rode over the downs and took the East Road, and then Merry and Pippin rode on to Buckland; and already they were singing again as they went. But Sam turned to Bywater, and so came back up the Hill, as day was ending once more. And he went on, and there was yellow light, and fire within; and the evening meal was ready, and he was expected. And Rose drew him in, and set him in his chair, and put little Elanor upon his lap.
He drew a deep breath. 'Well, I'm back,' he said.
The End.
I named my daughter Elinor after two characters--Sam's daughter, and the main character in Sense & Sensibility. If we'd had a boy, we'd have named him Sam. Note that my ex-wife wasn't a Tolkien fan--I'd initially suggested Arwen for a girl's name, but she said that was too exotic :P But we both had agreed on Sam for sure!
Frodo has survivor's guilt. Everyone is calling him a hero, but he fells that he was defeated by it. You are totally correct that Frodo was scared of becoming like Bilbo, instead of feeling that he completed his task, he felt like he "lost" the ring. Going west was an act of absolution, Frodo wanted to forget all about it. But he will never forget his friends, & they will never forget him.
i dont think survivor guilt is a proper interpretation of the issue, the usual definition involves felling guilty because one is alive and other are not, felling either not worthy to have survived or guilty that they had to die for one to be alive. so i dont see the conection with frodo and Survivor Guilt. More like PTSD and some kind of Adictionor need that haunts him but cant never be satiated, and the chrconic, physical pain from the stabbing. maybe you are thinking about impostor syndrome
Also what I love about Tolkien's writing is that he NEVER kills charachters "just to crush us all inside", death in his world is a gift and it always has a greater meaning behind it. The video i recommended in previous comment explores it too and shows why charachters are spared or granted death. Ahhh LOTR is such a masterpiece, I can't😍
In the books Saruman had not died at Orthanc, but escaped. When the four Hobbits returned to the Shire they found that Saruman and a band of ruffians had pretty much laid waste to the area. They were able to rally the Shire-folk to drive the invaders out, and then Saruman was killed by Grima Wormtongue. Sam was able to restore the Shire using Galadriel's gift.
Succinctly put & well said! I can overlook & forgive all the changes in Tolkien’s work for the screenplay except for the one *HUGE* one you’ve here related. The four hobbits returning to that situation in the Shire and setting things aright, in the manner they did, exemplified the true growth in their characters and their ability to take care of their own affairs. We have to remember that Gandalf and the Rangers of the North had been protecting the Shire for years, unbeknownst to the inhabitants. And the time compression illusion in screenplays doesn’t help either. This, my one, enormous gripe with the screenwriters… and it basically ruins the story for me. Personally. Epic films, no doubt, but soured my outlook of the story. Alas…
@@ErnwaldoI can overlook this omission even though I wish they had included it. But if they had the movie would be, minimum, and extra 45 minutes longer
And I think you see a good growth sequence within the film. I love the scene where Aragorn turns to his friends and says "For Frodo" and then charges the enemy at the Black Gates. And who follows after him before the men of the West even started moving? The two hobbits, without hesitation. Everyone there at that battle was sacrificing their lives to give Frodo a chance to succeed.
@@ogrestamp I hear ya & happy you can overlook that omission. I can not. I get that it would have made the film even longer and there are no shortage of people that complain about “too many (false) endings.” As a fan of the written work since the mid-70s, none of that concerned me. I was confused when they killed Saruman when they did & wondered how it would affect the ending. I can’t agree with the position that enough growth of the four Hobbits was shown. We’ll just have to agree to disagree on that point. The Scouring of the Shire and the four Hobbits doing all they do in response just completes their characters (literally & figuratively) and is so vital a denouement. This is all my personal cross to bear. I do love that so many find the films remarkable & receive so much joy from them.
@@Ernwaldo I understand your point. And I believe your cross isn't too big. One of my longer and better friends is angry at the films because they didn't include Tom Bombadil. Now that's a big cross to bear I think. Imagine trying to explain Tom Bombadil to non-readers.
A case towards your point. Frodo looks into the Mirror of Galadriel and sees the Scouring of the Shire. I wonder if Peter Jackson intended to include that in the movies but pivoted for some reason.
@@ogrestamp Wow! Yeah, even I think Bombadil wasn’t too much a sacrifice. You make great points in an intelligent, well-reasoned manner. So fun! Thanks for sharing & continue to enjoy.
Frodo Lives!
Some context about where Frodo went at the end:
Its called Valinor, and a bunch of magical beings (called Valar) live there. They, like the Elves now, are kinda stuck there permanently because of other lore we don't need to get into. But the point is, these powerful beings are able to heal both Frodo's Weathertop wound AND the lasting harm of the One Ring (on Bilbo too). And before he died, Sam also went there. So it really IS the best ending for Frodo.
Wonderful reaction to the end of the best trilogy of movies ever. I've seen these I don't know how many hundred times, but I, a bitter and jaded old man (according to some), still tear up at so many places and speeches throughout. Many involving Sam.
Seeing Sad Natascha made me even more teary eyed. But I completely understood the feelings, for certain.
Also, the Natascha the White cosplay was great! And, yeah, wearing a wig for too long is miserable.
Side note: I always liked that Gandalf came with three eagles, just in case Smeagol had been redeemed and survived.
Admittedly, Frodo didn't just give up on the Shire immediately on a whim. As he said in the overdub, fourteen months after they left they returned to the Shire. And before they went to the harbor with Bilbo Frodo said it had been four years to the day since Weathertop, so Frodo did stay around the Shire for a couple of years to make a go of it, and to write the book. But the long suffering of being the Ringbearer was too much to overcome, as was the wound of the Morgul blade. So only in the Undying Lands would he find peace and joy again.
And the no longer feeling quite comfortable in a place that had been home forever is a feeling that several friends of mine have mentioned after returning from war. They see it differently after seeing what they saw in battles, and while it is still the same place with the same comforts it is them that changed.
If it helps, in the Appendices of the books there is an addendum of things that happened after Frodo left. One of the most important being that the ship Gandalf et al left on, in spite of being called the last elven ship to leave Middle Earth was not actually the last. After a long life, with his children grown and Rosie having passed away of old age, Samwise Gamgee, the last of the Ringbearers (however briefly) came to the harbor and found an elven ship waiting for him, and so he traveled to the Undying Lands to be reunited with the others.
Another important note was that even this was not the last elven ship to leave Middle Earth. Years after Sam's journey, and after many many years of adventures and friendship, Legolas and Gimli came to the harbor where, if I remember correctly, Legolas built a ship to take the two of them to rejoin the other members of the Fellowship who had already gone to the Undying Lands.
So still more happy endings and reunions occurred. Take comfort and joy in that, sweet lady. 🙂
Tolkien fought in World War I, and Frodo saving the shire but not for himself is an allegory for what the soldiers went through. Frodo's wound would never fully heal, just like the PTSD many soldiers had as a result. If you have anyone in your life suffering from mental health issues, just remember Sam's beautiful line: "I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you." Everyone should be a friend like Sam.
Sounds nice but, its not the case Tolkien didn't like allegories.
Great comment, however, Tolkien hated allegory. So I see it more as a theme that Tolkien put in the lord of the rings, which came from his experiences in WW1 just like you said. It stands on its own in the story.
Tolkein absolutely drew on his experiences in war for multiple aspects of the story, but he consistently and vehemently denied that LoTR was an allegory for war. Along with spelling out his hatred for allegory as one of the most low brow forms of story telling that, he did eventually state that, if anything, the story is nothing more than an allegory of power which would have applicability in many areas, including war.
This is just wrong, it gets repeated on every LOTR video too. Tolkien vehemently denied his works are allegorical, he disliked allegory. He was too intelligent and sophisticated to use something as simple and unoriginal as allegory.
Comments like these just show you how misinformation spreads and becomes truth. Even when corrected the OP never deletes or edits the comment, they need those meaningless likes too much and they have no integrity.
@@Mr.Yoda66I think people are reading a bit too much into what Tolkien actually said, ironically enough. Back then there were people saying things like "Sauron is allegory for nuclear war", that's the sort of thing he was responding to, people making bold claims about what his work "means". Some of the character work being influenced by his experiences is a much more mundane statement, I'm not sure it should even qualify as "allegory", it's basically just inspiration.
If you don't believe me, here's a quote from the man himself, from a letter to Cotton Minchin: " My “Samwise” is indeed (as you note) largely a reflexion of the English soldier - grafted on the village-boys of early days, the memory of the privates and my batmen that I knew in the 1914 War, and recognized as so far superior to myself."
I personally interpret the "Sailing west" with the Elves as going to Heaven basically. Frodo was so traumatized and damaged by the ring that he could not enjoy life anymore, so God/Eru Ilúvatar allowed Frodo to go to Heaven where Gandalf also went (Gandalf and the Wizards are basically Angels).
The ring is also a great metaphor for drug addiction, it damages you ,becomes a part of you, in a way. It soothes you and lulls you in, it can feel like you need it to live and it can be hard to let go, especially without (a) good friend(s). And even after years of freedom from it you can still feel the consequences and maybe still have the urge to have it "one last time".
I interpret it as the same thing.
(inserting tongue firmly into cheek)
"Mediterranean" translates to "Middle Earth"
And if you travel west from the Mediterranean, you arrive eventually on the shores of America.
So when they leave the Grey Havens, they set sail for heaven.
Which begs the question in my mind... why not just take the ring with them into the west, and dump it in some smelter in Pittsburgh or similar place?
(removing tongue from cheek)
Tolkien fought in world war one and lost many close friends in the terrible trenches. He was forever affected by that experience and put some themes in The Lord of The Rings to reflect his experiences.
If Frodo was just fine after all what he went through, then that would honestly diminish the journey and his strength and noble sacrifice of being the ringbearer. Tolkien wanted to show the effects and consequences of war on the soldiers. It is bittersweet that Frodo doesn't get to live happily in the shire but instead gets to go to the undying lands. And that is very much a theme of Tolkien.
The perfect ending in my opinion! Especially the more I think about it and the more I rewatch/reread LOTR, the more I absolutely love it.
Thanks for the reaction! ❤
I remember when i first saw the movie, i was wondering if I liked him going to the undyling lands too, but my friend at the time had read the books, and would clarify every question i had for all 3 movies (this was high school too in 2001-2003
"No man can kill me"
"I am no man"
And it was truth: a hobbit stabbed the Witch King and a woman finished him.
for nearly 1700 years the witch king ran around thinking no one could kill him, but like most he failed to read between the lines of the prophesy. "He will not return to this land. Far off yet is his doom, and not by the hand of a man will he fall." -Glorfindel. Glorfindel chose is words wisely.
With the blade made by a weaponsmith of Arnor, long since dead.
Gotta watch out for that “none of woman born” kinda prophecy! It’ll bite you in the ass!
Merry stabs him with an ancient enchanted Númenórean blade that can remove the Witch King protection. After that Éowyn kill him with her sword, because she was just there. But at that moment, if the Witch King had been stabbed by Gimli, Legolas, Aragorn, or any human, male of female, the result would have been the same.
But with Merry being a Male/Man/Boy hobbit, his blade was destroyed when he stabbed him. By "No man can kill me." it means no Male Human, Elf, or Hobbit with XX chromosome can kill him. It has to be a Female, someone with XY
Another fun fact. The little girl that Sam picks up when he arrives home in the last scene is in fact Sean Astin's (Sam) real daughter. I may be recalling this wrong, but I believe in the dvd extras Sean said that his daughter had a hard time playing along with Rosie being Dad's wife and her mother. She'd get annoyed and protect Sean. I hope I'm correct. Might be a couple of decades that have messed with my memory.
... and baby Frodo, being held by Rosie, is her actual baby.
It really never gets old to watch someone fall in love with the LOTR. I can't even begin to describe what these books and movies mean to me and it warms my heart to see that they still move people to the core this very day. I hope you had a wonderful journey through these movies and that you'll continue to find joy and courage in the stories. "There's some good in this world, mr. Frodo, and it's worth fighting for!"
"You bow to no one" - gets me every time!
5:15 “Does that break the skin?”
FINALLY, someone reacting to these movies notices this! I’ve never seen anyone else on RUclips who saw that this is practically like trying to cut someone’s leg with a toothpick and would do absolutely nothing. The scene drives me crazy every time! I’m glad you noticed it too, Natascha!
right?! ahah i genuinely didn't think that was going to work but hey haha
"I go to Avalon to be healed of my grievous wound. And if I do not return, pray for my soul." King Arthur. There is quite a bit of the Arthurian legend in Lord of the Rings.
There was something Gandalf called the Black Breath in the books though he doesn't mention it in the movies -- it's something that afflicts anyone who attacks or is attacked by the Nazgul. That's why Eowyn and Pippin were both in such a bad way after Eowyn killed the Witch King, after Pippin stabbed him. In the books, it's also what afflicted Faramir, because one of those arrows that hit him came from above, from one of the Nazgul riding a winged Fell Beast. Fortunately, Aragorn was able to treat them all successfully. Lovely reaction -- I've enjoyed watching all these!
Remember when Galadriel said that Pippin would find his courage? Well, I'd say he found it by leaping into a pyre, into literal flames and rescuing Faramir. He really has come a long way since the Mines of Moria.
Although extremely sad Frodo leaves the Shire, you have to remember when Frodo says to Sam "It's been 4 years to the day since Weathertop the wound has never really healed." It was not possible for Frodo to completely heal in the Shire so he had to leave with the elves so he could fully heal not just from the physical wounds, emotional wounds, he was also stabbed by a Morgol blade which was evil and had evil magic attched to it, and he was poisoned and corrupted by the ring. It was extremely hard for Frodo to say goodbye to Sam, but he had to leave so he could fully heal. Very sad for everyone who's read the books, but also for people who haven't. This is my favorite trilogy! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
The Witch King couldn't be killed by normal means, hence the line "no man (human) can kill me". The short swords that Aragorn had given the Hobbits were specifically made to fight ring wraiths, but that is not mentioned in the movies. Merry weakened the Witch King, and Eowyn got that miraculous kill. This should, in no way, lessen what she does in your eyes. She is still the one to kill the Witch King.
Many people commented good stuff so I won’t go into that although I could write a whole book here about details and scenes and man those are just the best movies in every way possible and so many awesome and touching scenes that no matter how often you see them they always get you (at least me and everyone I know), but for me about Theoden, he’s very underrated in my eyes and a great man aswell as Aragorn and he only wants the best for his people and all mankind and does his duty without hesitation… for example the part where Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli leave shortly after Elrond talked to Aragorn: the people are saying „he leaves because there is no hope“ Theoden replies: „he leaves because he has to“ and „yes we can’t win, but we will meet them in battle nonetheless“ so badass - he’s ready to give it his all to do mankind a favor and try his best…
That’s why they all scream death before charging in Minas Tirith because they all know they are going to die down to the last one of them (they don’t die all as we see it play out, but at the start of the battle everyone believed that as a 100% sure thing… Theoden is really a MVP badass good hearted person that gave it his best 👑
You know if it gets tears from you, it must be special!
Also, wow, enormous dog😅
this ❤️ your girl is so expressive by nature but usually a crier in my own time....alone... away from public view 😂 so you know this stabbed me right in the heart 😂
i'm looking at him now, and all i see is a tiny little puppy 😂 i've been laughing at how many people have commented on his size bc my perspective has clearly been thrown so out of whack by having him grow up in my presence 😂
I loved how you went from "Mmm. Let's see what happens here" with The Fellowship of the Ring, to enter "Constant Tension" In The Two Towers and ended up crying uncontrollably with The Return of the King. Probably one of the nicest reactions I've seen about my favorite trilogy of movies. You have a new subscriber here...
Postscript: Without a doubt you would have been the prettiest of all the elf queens or white sorceresses of Middle Earth... Waiting for more.
Legolas was one of the few Elves still left in middle earth the rest of his people were across the ocean in the west in Valinor.
When Aragorn had passed away Legolas decided to build a ship to sail across the ocean to join his people, but Legolas wasn't alone he decided to bring his best friend Gimli with him, who by that point was very old even for a dwarf.
When Legolas and Gimli finally reached Valinor, Gimli not only became the first Dwarf to set foot on Valinor but also Gimli got to see Lady Galadriel one more time.
Thank you for the amazing reaction! Thank you for your emotions and not being afraid to share them.
59:01 Wow. I did not expect a cameo of Huan!
"how did people deal with this in cinemas" i saw it when i was 12 & can confirm i was sobbing from "i can't carry it for you" through the car ride home
Thank you Tash for reacting to this LoTR trilogy! My precious ending was the best!
ahaha glad you liked it i couldn't help myself 😂 look a tool but it's all in good jest 😂
It is amazing how many back-to-back iconic moments are in this movie:
"Aye, I could do that"
"I can carry you"
"For Frodo"
all these are back to back from one another. And it makes sense when you realize, this is not one movie, this is the final act of an 11 hour long movie. So, this is the climax of it and it is perfectly delivered
Frodo never fully healed from his wounds, which means he could never stay happy in Middle-Earth. He, Gandalf, Bilbo, and the rest are going to the undying lands (Elf heaven essentially), where mortal beings usually aren't allowed. An exception is made for Frodo and Bilbo because they were ring bearers. In the appendices we learn that Sam becomes mayor of the Shire and lives a long and happy life. After his wife dies, he also sails west to the undying lands because he was briefly a ring bearer. So Frodo and Sam do meet again. Merry and Pippin spend their days with Aragorn in Gondor, and when they die they are buried next to Aragorn's grave. Legolas and Gimli remain friends, and their friendship heals the rift between Dwarf and Elf. When they reach their end, they also sail to the undying lands together. It's a massive honor for Gimli, being a dwarf, and never a ring bearer. Once they leave, the fellowship is gone from Middle Earth forever.
There were so many performances by the cast of these films that I would consider worthy of an Oscar. I always thought that Christopher Lee, who played Saruman, should have got a supporting actor Oscar. He played that part so well that you felt yourself loathing his Saruman so much. That is the sign of a great actor. In real life, Lee was considered by everyone who knew him to be a kind and generous man. Long before the Lord of the Rings were even considered to be made into movies, Christopher Lee had been reading the Lord of the Rings trilogy every year for many years. Of all the main cast members, Lee was probably the most knowledgeable of Tolkien’s works. He was actually the only cast member to have personally met J.R.R. Tolkien. He loved Tolkien’s works and even reprised his role for The Hobbit films despite him being in his 90’s at that point. He passed in June of 2015 at the age of 93. Great actor!
Legolas and Gimli did not separate after the War of the Ring, and spent the rest of their lives together. In fact, when it came time for Legolas to sail for the Undying Lands, Gimli was given special permission to join him, due to Lady Galadriel advocating his worthiness to The Great Powers -- so, canonically, they are still together to this hour.
The smile Frodo gives the Sam, Pippin and Mary at the end is first time he's felt so much happiness in a long time. 😊
Gandalf brought 3 eagles in case Smeagol was still alive
No, it doesn't say that anywhere in the books. Lol That is pure speculation.
@@Meg0307 I didn't say it was from The book.
@@Meg0307 You're one of those "actually" people aren't you, Have fun with that
@@Meg0307Gandalf brought 3 eagles so the 3rd eagle could eat Smeagol if he was still alive
@@Meg0307 the third eagle actually wanted the ring for itself which is why it went
The way I think about it is that big part of what makes the Shire the Shire is the light hearts of its residents -- but Frodo's heart has become too heavy. It's impossible for his to return to the Shire because it no longer exists for him, and he also feels like he's a danger to the Shire because he might spread his heaviness to others. As you said, he's traumatized, but his trauma cannot be eased or healed, and may in fact drag others down with him. But his trauma _will_ be healed by traveling with the elves, which is why he leaves when his book is written and his friends seem ready to be okay without him.
Elijah Wood once told the story of being at the premier for The Return of the King and he got up and went into the lobby just after Frodo's farewell, just to get a moment by himself, and low and behold, there was Jack Nicholson standing by the bar. So Elijah walks over and says hello. No one else is around, they're completely by themselves and Nicholson says, "Well I dont know what the hell that was about"
So, Elijah tries to explain the meaning of Frodo getting on the ship is a kind of metaphor for Heaven, whatever, bla bla bla, and Jack cuts him off and says, "No, I meant the whole movie. I walked out after the first 30 minutes"
I honestly, I can't stand Jack Nicholson lol
Sean Connery was initially offered the role of Gandalf, but turned it down because he also didn't understand it.
Something I still want to add, it’s just a nice to know: at Mount Doom Gandalf searched for the Hobbits with 3 Eagles because he would have saved Gollum as well…
Also „I can’t carry it for you, but I can carry you“ and „you bow to no one“ that saying the King of Gondor that those small little „unworthy“ Hobbits doesn’t have to bow to no one as all living beings have to honor them and to respect them and they don’t need to follow those rules even doesn’t have to greet the King with like proper manners is just awesome… I’m not lying when I’m saying I watched those movies like more than a hundred times and I ugly cry every time those scenes come up, it’s crazy…. I feel like it’s even getting „worse and worse“ the more I see those movies… I mean if you don’t tear up or cry during those scenes than come on your not a real human, right? If somebody see‘s or meets someone who doesn’t ugly cry or at least tear up during those movies they are not to be trusted!! The BEST MOVIES EVER MADE IN ALL ASPECTS! Just awesome and worth many rewatches! PS: when you watched The Hobbit trilogy and you are going to rewatch the whole saga than I recommend to you first starting to watch The Hobbit Trilogy and after this The Lord of the Rings Trilogy, just awesome every time! (For new guys/first timers I would recommend the order LotR and than TheHobbit)
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Yeah Frodo got severe damaged physically and even way more mentally… he would have loved to be able to life in the shire but he couldn’t just like real soldiers returning from crazy wars like world war 1 … he couldn’t pick up his old life and he needed to go to the undying lands to be able to life on slightly healing and get some relief… it’s a bitter sweet ending because it showcases how such trauma and war changes you and even if you survive it’s changing you and takes parts away from you and takes it’s toll on you, Frodo being split up and not able to live on in the Shire is definitely the bitter part….
ARAGORN BROKE HIS TOE WHEN HE KICKED THE HELMET!!!
oh wait, wrong movie.🤪
In the 3022 of the Third Age, Merry and Pippin opened a shoe shop, but the business failed and they had to close it down in 3023.
Aragorn bought them some boots with a metal reinforcing so that toes get better protection.
I heard eventually they partnered with Gimli and produced a line of Mithril-toed boots.They made a fortune!@@hollyhockgod
Out of all the reactions I have watched for LOTR (which is a lot), you are the first reactor I've seen actually seem to want Denethor to live and to get off the pyre and be saved. Just speaks to your sweet nature and heart ❤
i'm a bit shocked people keep saying this 😂 i find it kinda mean anyone would want him to die, he's clearly a deluded ad very grief stricken ... and an a** ....but did he need to be burned alive 😂
@@nataschasummersyou won’t want him to die after I share more about him
Good eyes! Master Samwise does indeed become Mayor of Hobbiton (multiple times), and he and Rosie have 13 beautiful children together! One of their daughters later marries Pippin's son - whom he named Faramir 🥰
I wonder why he didn’t name him boromir
I have watched the extended editions of these films every year since they came out and one of the simple pleasures in my life is showing these films to people who have never seen them before, but now I am in med school and I barely have time to sleep, let alone watch the whole trilogy (extended as God intended!) which usually gets me through tough times. It is nice to be able to see the film in bite-sized bits and watch someone enjoy the experience of seeing it for the first time. Love your personality. You have lots of energy and your commentary is hilarious. Watching this was very enjoyable and gave me the dopamine blast needed to get through this week. Thanks for taking the time to edit this. You did awesome!
Don’t worry about Frodo, he basically sailed away to Heaven(Arda)and lived in peace in the Elven Kingdom where no pain or bad memories could touch him ☺️
Natascha, this was a sweet and wonderful reaction. I kept wishing I could give you a hug while you were watching this. Sam ended up being elected mayor of Hobbington 7 times for 7 year terms. Of course when Frodo left him Bag End. He and Rosie had 13 children and when Rosie passed, Sam took a ship to the Undying Lands because he was briefly a ring bearer. Pippin was the leader of the Tooks and Merry became the leader of Buckland, When they retired they both went to Rohan and then Gondor where they spent the rest of their lives.
OMG😂
How tiny are you?
Or is that a bear and not a dog?😂
That was hilarious when he joined you on the couch for the movie wrap up!😂
ahha glad you loved his cameo 😂 im 5ft 5inches for context ahah hes a big floofy boy ❤️
7:32 I've never seen this b4 in a reaction to this scene, but u had pretty much the exact same expression on your face as Eowyn did on hers when the Nazgul's beast came for Theoden. Eyes wide open, mouth agape, just dumbfounded with shock that it's happening. Very cool, in a reactor-y kind of way! Your great good humor, nifty editing, AND that whole Beautiful Lady in White Galadriel thing you had going on made this a pleasure to behold! Now I gotta go and watch your earlier LOTR reactions, lol! (Your dog is amazing!!)
If it makes you feel any better, after a long, honored life, and after Rosie passed away due to old age, Sam was allowed to sail to the west and join Frodo and Gandalf. Had he not also been a ring bearer, he wouldn't have been allowed. I suffer from an affliction called empathy. I very nearly matched you tear for tear, whether they were tears of sadness or joy. In the extremely unlikely chance that you'd cross the ocean and accidentally run into me, I'd give you a hug of thanks for the fine job you did. Since that won't happen, I'll give you a virtual hug.
Legolas took Gimli, as the only Dwarf ever to be granted that honor, on the last ship ever to sail to Valinor, after they had their little adventures ❤
I think you would enjoy the books and the Silmarillon, at least as an audio book or something :) or watch some of the beautiful lore videos all over youtube
Whole LotR love ❤
1:02:58 Legolas and Gimli absolutely get a happy ending, starting with the two of them taking a road trip together to settle a bet they make in the books. Legolas takes Gimli back to Fangorn Forest to hang out with Treebeard and the ancient-ass trees. Gimli takes Legolas to the Glittering Caves, which is the cave system under Helm's Deep where the women and children took shelter during the siege-turns out if you go further in, that's a massive cave system of astounding natural beauty, absolutely dripping in gems and precious metals. Legolas enjoys the caves despite his misgivings. Gimli... endures going back to Fangorn. He's still not big on sentient trees as a concept.
Legolas stays about another 120ish years, along with some other woodland elves that either delayed their departure or chose not to leave at all. They live in and rehabilitate Ithilien, which is the wooded region of Gondor immediately outside Mordor where Frodo and Sam first meet Faramir.
Gimli establishes and rules over a dwarven settlement in the Glittering Caves, and contributes a lot of material and skill to everyone's post-war repair and reconstruction, including forging new gates for Minas Tirith out of steel and mithril, just to flex. Let's see any fiery wolf-shaped battering ram ever knock those out. Bitch.
When Aragorn dies after 122 years as king, Legolas and Gimli are the last of the Fellowship, and Gimli is getting quite old. Legolas builds them a boat and they sail into the West, making Gimli the only known dwarf to enter the Undying Lands, on the basis of his deep friendship with Legolas and the favor of Galadriel (those three strands of hair she gave him were Historically Significant™ and kind of a massive political statement for Ancient Elven Drama reasons).
The Song and lyrics,performed by Annie Lennox,for the end credits,really helps understand frodos final journey to the undying lands.After he got poisoned by the witchkings blade,It was for the best and is a happy place for him to go and recuperate! Be Happy Natascha🧝🏼♀️🐺❤💪🏼😊👍🏻
Everyone needs a friend like Sam.
and if you don't have one, be one ❤️
Yeah, that's the price Frodo paid. He _cannot_ have a normal life, that was his sacrifice. And in the end, the only way he could get some respite was to go with the elves into the Undying Lands to live off the rest of his life in relative peace.
If it's of any comfort to you, in the appendices of the books, it is said that Legolas stays behind to explore the beauties of Middle-Earth with Gimli, but after long years he indeed turns his eyes to the West as well, builds himself a ship, and then leaves for the Undying Lands. Along with him, Gimli is offered a ride, making him the only dwarf to ever set foot over there. And what's more, after the death of Sam's wife, he gives Frodo's book to his son, and sets off for the Undying Lands as well, thus meeting Frodo in the end. It is something all Ringbearers (Bilbo, Frodo, and briefly Sam) do, because the terror of the Ring was too hard to bear even after its destruction.
Honestly, your reactions throughout the whole trilogy have been my favorite by far. Thank you again and I think you deserve another cup of coffee for all your hard work and tears. 😂
you really are a guardian angel ❤️❤️❤️
@@nataschasummers Its my honor.
One thing I really liked about the ending is that it wasn't until Frodo reached up to grab Sam's hand that the One Ring started to melt. Until that point, he hadn't truly let it go.
Yes, it is literally because he cannot get over the trauma of the stabbing on Mount Doom and the other injuries. It is very good for Frodo. You will be happy to know that Sam lived a very full life, had many children, and after Rosie passed away, Sam too was taken to the Undying Lands, to reunite with Frodo.
The oliphants aren't evil: they are animals bred for an evil use and, unfortunately, all went extinct after this.
Touching one of the Nazgûl, especially the Witch-King, sickens people: this happened to Eowyn and Merry. It's a sort of spiritual poison. In the book, Merry didn't recover quickly enough to take part in the final battle.
Gandalf did say in TTT that he was back in Middle-Earth only until his task (helping mortals get rid of Sauron) was done. You're right: Frodo has PTSD and leaving for Valinor and some elven healing is his only chance at a good life. Sam is the hero who gets the girl and the happy ending.
Also you are more right than you know when you say, "Is that his little girl?" Sean Astin's real life daughter is playing Elanor Gamgee at the end.
And Valinor is heaven, kind of, in that it has angels and archangels (Maiar and Valar) wandering around interacting with the elves who live there.
It is well recorded in historical accounts that Elephants (hence Oliphuants too) can be driven mad by the noise and pain in battle and turn, in berserk rage, on everything around them, killing anything that is near. Legolas' mercy killing the oliphaunt probably saved more lives (on BOTH sides) than simply jumping off would have.
There are so many great moments in RoTK, one is that Rohirrim Cavalry Charge, this scene is probably the most epic charge scene I have seen in film making . I still remember watching this in cinema ( I was in my 20s) with friends which was like 20 or so years ago, ( now I am in my 40s with wife and kids), the audience reactions were just as epic, everyone was just cheering as soon as Theoden lead the charge, it's incredible to see the King lead the charge in the front line, not at the rear lol.....how can we forget that inspiring speech and warcry by him, to boost the morale of his troops which by the way is already greatly outnumbered, the words they chanted " death" is the proof that they know that some of them will die as they charged head on against the Mordor lines. Not to mention that Rohan theme music , its just so beautiful. I still watch this scene once in a while, even though its only via TV or Laptop, the scene still gives me goosebump.
Tolkien always maintained that Sam was the true hero of the story.
Tolkien was a Lieutenant in the British Army during WW I. As an officer he would have had a soldier assigned to him as an aide or manservant, known as a "Batman." Often bonds of loyalty, mutual respect & friendship would form between officers & their Batman that crossed the traditional bounds of rank & class. Tolkien marveled at the shows of heroism & bravery exhibited by from the ordinary soldiers under his command, including his Batman.
It is this officer-Batman comradery that he based Frodo & Sam's relationship on.
Loved your reactions to all 3 films. Seldom have I seen such an emotionally invested reaction. Thank You!
Sam is one of my favorite characters
But No he didnt. Tolkein never considered Sam the "True Hero". Not sure why everyone keeps repeating this lie
@@scythianking7315Myth maybe, but lie is a bit of a strong word.
There Is magic in these movies. Magic that not a single movie or tv-series has ever even come close to capture for 23 years. And I believe there will never be something that could possibly replace them. I'm 31 years old, i've seen these movies COUNTLESS times, and I still cry like a baby every time Sam says: ''I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you'', and Aragorn to the Hobbits: ''My friends, you bow to no one''.
I recommend watching The Hobbit trilogy as well, where we get to see more about Bilbo and his journey, and everything that happened leading up to LOTR. Some people didn't like the Hobbit, but I believe they also captured some of the magic I talked about earlier.
Next Trilogy The Hobbit Extended Edition Of The Adventures Of Bilbo Baggin:
(1) An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition
(2) The Desolation Of Smaug Extended Edition
(3) The Battle Five Armie Extended Edition
@nataschasummers I agree - When you watch the Hobbit.. go for the extended versions.. more detailed story telling and scenes make the Hobbit movies better, IMO.
And yes... the movie doesn't really tell you that Frodo dies, but he does. They go "west to valinor, where no mortals can go." It's where you go to "heal' before death. It's not a good ending for Frodo, that's kind of the point of his character is that he's the Martyr and Sam's the Hero. We saw how the ring ruined everyone's souls, and Frodo carried it 17 years and all the way through Mordor as it got heavier and heavier on his soul (notice is movie his neck was scarred like being covered in burns where it hung). It's another reason he doesn't want anyone else touching or having it, besides the obvious power it has on him. "Give it back!! It's my burden to bear...." He doesn't want it to do to Sam what it's done to him and Gollum. They also don't really make it as clear in the movies how much he suffers when he gets back to the Shire, though he hangs on just long enough to write the book and see that Sam gets his family.
Note, even by the time in the FIRST movie Gandalf wants him to throw it in the fireplace to read the runes .... but Frodo can't... he'd already owned it all of the time Gandalf was out researching. Nobody who's ever held the ring can destroy it -- hence the only thing that destroyed it in the end was the mercy he kept showing Gollum, in that twist of fate.
In the books Frodo reminds Sam that he too will have to go to the Havens, since he was a ring-bearer too -- if only for a little while. And, indeed Sam does eventually, as the last ring-bearer on middle-earth 😭
Later, also Sam went to Valinor, the Undying lands, as he's been also a ringbearer, if only for a short while. He left the book to his daughter, Elanor. Legolas also in the end went to Valinor, and he brought Gimli with him, after he was given special dispensation by the Valar, the Powers of Arda, the highest order of angelic beings in Tolkien's world. As far as we know, he was the only dwarf who ever received this honor.
so basically to put it at a battlefield scale, saurons/and saruman armies combined together was about 70,000 to the other army, of only little over 6,000 troops
"But I can carry you" "You bow to no one" "The last pages are for you, Sam" even 20 years later these lines get the waterworks running consistently
When the Witch King says "no Man can kill me", its just a myth that he had been told so many times he believed it himself. Instead, what allows Eowyn to kill him, is the dagger that Merry stabbed him with, it was magical.
This Fantasy feels more real that the actual Reality.
Thank you Natasha the White.🎉
Now imagine watching this as a 18year old in the theaters back in the day. Legendary.
“But when Aragorn arose all that beheld him gazed in silence, for it seemed to
them that he was revealed to them now for the first time. Tall as the sea-kings of old, he
stood above all that were near; ancient of days he seemed and yet in the flower of
manhood; and wisdom sat upon his brow, and strength and healing were in his hands,
and a light was about him.
And then Faramir cried: 'Behold the King!'
And in that moment all the trumpets were blown, and the King Elessar went
forth,"
36:00 So, head canon moment, but I truly believe that it's quite literally impossible to throw the ring into Mount Doom willingly. Though we only have 2 examples, Frodo and Isildur, both of these characters are altogether good and virtuous, but the ring has a level of influence that just can't be ignored. I think no matter who is standing in that spot, if they have the ring in their hands, even if they just sacrificed so much to finally get there, whatever influencing/corrupting effect the ring has is amplified to maximum when you're standing in that spot above the lava, about to throw it in. Which means that the only way the ring can be destroyed is by accident. Which means Gollum's interference was essential to the success of the mission, which is what Gandalf was hinting at in Fellowship with the line, "I still believe he has some part to play for good or evil."
Frodo never promised to destroy the Ring, but to take it as far as he could with that quest in mind. He spent basically all of himself to do it and there was no healing that could mend the wounds he had suffered. He went to the undying lands where the presence of the elves and the Valar would help till he eventually passed in peace. Tolkien himself stated that no one could have willfully destroyed the ring in the place of its making where its power was absolute. The Ring meet its end by accident or chance and that was the only way it could have been.
Legolas did eventually leave Middle-Earth, he was amongst the last Elves to do so and he made his very own boat for the purpose and when at last he set sail, he took a by then very old Gimli with him for the two remained the closest of friends for the rest of their lives and would not be parted from one another. So in the end Merry, Pippin and Aragorn passed away from old age and were buried next to each other. And Sam, Gimli and Legolas sailed west and joined Frodo in the Undying Lands.
Frodo literally gave himself to "the cause"... And there's no taking that back or changing that. He gave the ultimate sacrifice. He is immortal now, though...I believe. Its a reminder that sacrifices must be made and some may need to lay it all on the line for those they love. So many things to love in this trilogy...the warmth, the detail, the MUSIC, THE SYMBOLISM, etc. etc. Glad you loved it and are NOW a "Shireling" along with the rest of us.😉 You are ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS & HILARIOUS!!
Frodo isn't immortal. He still died eventually. It's mentioned that nothing can prevent a mortal from dying. You can heal them and maybe keep them healthy into their twilight years, but no force can stop death except Eru himself.
For the things that left you confused, you're so fortunate that nerds dream of a pretty cosplayer asking them to explain Tolkien
ahha then let'h dreams be granted bc i still have more questions for all 😂
Nat: "The Undying Lands sound like a metaphor or allegory for Heaven."
JRR: _spinning in his grave_
Nat, stay calm about Frodo. The land of Valinor where the elves go is the only place where he would finally be free of the burden of the ring and live in peace (apply to Bilbo also). So yes, it was a happy ending for him.
This was an emotional video!, hope you have enjoyed this epic journey as we all did once ❤ and if you are doing the Hobbit trilogy I'm sure you will also love it.
Natascha, your reactions to this trilogy have been first rate. Honestly. You dive so deeply into these movies that your reactions become part of the experience that I never knew I was missing. Such an inherent talent.
awhhh this is too kind, made my night ❤️ so glad literally anyone enjoys my content, never really expected so many people to enjoy and be so kind to me so soon ❤️
Great reactions, its always an amazing journey watching people experience my favorite shows! You saying "Summat" just like Hagrid and the various harry potter references are epic
“Except for the King, but I ain’t gonna lie he wasn’t one of my fav faves.”
DAMMMMNNNNNNNN 😂❤😂😂😂
18:35 So, funny story. Peter Jackson had Sean Astin do that line multiple times trying to get the right take, and then he asked Sean to do one take where Sam hesitates to give the ring back to Frodo, which of course is the take they ended up using because there's a lot to chew on. Was the ring already starting to take a hold of Sam? An interesting question. However, I think my favorite interpretation of the scene is the one you almost came away with. That Sam hesitates to give the ring back because he's seen first hand what it has been doing to Frodo and how much of an immense burden it has become. He hesitates out of pure concern for Frodo and whether he can handle the burden for the rest of the journey. If Sam did want to keep the ring for himself, it was only to pull the burden off of Frodo and save him from it.
I still remember watching that bit where Frodo’s hanging the ring over the lava in the theater and hearing everyone talking to themselves. “Come ON!” “Just do it!” Good stuff.
Sam clobbers Gollum with a stone at a crucial moment in the film. In the Two Towers there's a scene where Merry and Pippin are throwing stones at Orcs from Treebeard's shoulders and in the Fellowship they throw stones at the Orcs just before they are kidnapped.
This is s specific skill unique to Hobbits. They were known to hunt rabbits by throwing stones. It was said if you saw a Hobbit stoop to pick up a rock, you better run or else you were likely to end up unconscious