Air Venturi Electric Compressor! 4500psi Fills at Home
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What a heap of hot air
Thank you for the run-thru. This was the second one that I've seen. Now I understand how this works. Yours was a fantastic way of explaining the process of filling a tank. Thank you for taking your time.
This technology is definitely coming along very quickly. I know some gun guys don't enjoy the air gun videos but myself see it as another freedom we should embrace.
I've had mine for a couple of weeks,and I LOVE IT . GREAT product no more traveling 60 miles to fill tanks or tank inspections.
Awesome!
Great video. Exactly what I needed. I like that you showed ALL 3 fill types!!!
Excellent video. Keep it up!
Just purchased the Air Venturi air compressor! Your very informative video has been of great value to me in feeling comfortable with the purchase! Thank you!
I just got mine last week with the AV dryer and I love it
Great Video. I just received my Air Venturi 4500 Compressor late last week. Your video answered all of my questions.
Thank you! I have just enter the air gun arena and just completely stoked!! Even more so to know you are involved in the spectrum!!
I just purchased a Daystate Huntsman Regal XL on Monday, it should arrive by next week. Really looking forward to this adventure!
I absolutely love air guns and hope you enjoy them just as much!
Good! Keep it up!
so glad you explained equalizing the pressure first when filling a bottle, so important and you explain it so well.
Not really. He started the compressor back up under 3900psi. I would suggest installing a check valve on the fill whip. Open your bottle, turn on the compressor from 0 psi and check valve will only allow air to flow into the tank when the tank pressure and comp pressure are equal (technically when comp pressure is greater than tank pressure)
Thank you for being one of the few folks who gets right to the meat of the issue....price. I recently saw a review of the new Air Venturi Avenger and was excited about an extry level PCP airgun. However, the cost of the compressor is beyond my reach. Thanks for saving me any unecessary drooling. Cheers!
Error @ 7:36 you shut off the compressor then opened the tank valve. From an engineering and physics perspective, re-starting the compressor against a 3900 psi load was the same as if you had simply opened the tank from the beginning. A cold start against the high pressure is creating the high load high friction stress point you were trying to avoid.
Technically, you could slowly open the tank valve immediately after the compressor is started. (slowly to avoid a sudden pressure shock which in essence would be similar to a cold start under pressure). Probably best to mitigate that high pressure differential and I believe was your intention to let the line pressure equalize within a few hundred psi then open the tank with the compressor still running. Also it would not be a problem if the line pressure exceeded tank pressure, even by relatively a wide margin, as the miniscule amount of air in the line even if suddenly released would be absorbed by and have little effect into the volume of the tank. The physics of air, obviously compressible, has shock absorbing characteristics plus it's impossible to manually open a twist valve instantly 100% so there is some built in buffer. This is not to say you shouldn't still take your time and be careful.
I would add that assuming all the components involved here are properly engineered and in good operating condition as you apparently proved here by starting the compressor against 3900 psi, all of this is relatively inconsequential save one thing. I've read in blogs/reviews the extra load from starting the compressor with 3000+ psi back pressure has caused some circuit breakers to pop.
In closing just want to say everyone be safe and most importantly have fun.
Dude your remarks are completely wrong and Twang's method is straight from the manual, which says:
NOTE: If your tank already has a partial fill in it, you will want to keep the valve closed
until pressure in the hose is close to the pressure already in the tank. Once the
compressor fills the hose within 300 psi of the pressure already in the tank, open the
valve.
Next time you deign to offer advice please get your facts straight!
Always the best, Chuckster636
@@charlespeffley Exactly. You shouldn't turn off the compressor.
Glad to see another review on this compressor. Please let us know how it's working for you in a month or two.
Very, very, well explained! Thank you.
I’m waiting as I write this for my new compressor. I had some questions on it which were answered right away in the video, thanks!
Glad to see you’re wearing hearing protection while running the compressor. It doesn’t take much to loose your hearing!
I know this videos an old post, but if possible, I would like to have you do a review on the EdGun Lieshy 2 air rifle. Thanks!
I really enjoy your videos! Thank you!
Thanks so much, William!
Thank you for educating us. I am getting one of these and giving up my hand pump.
Same bro but hey lol that hand pump gave up the 💪 we need lol
Thank you for the well done video, very helpful.
Thanks for watching, and I’m glad you found it helpful.
Cool presentation Lad , Thank you
Hey Twang, I unboxed my new Air Venturi Kryton compressor today and just finished topping off my third tank...thanks so much for your easy to understand demostration, and your advice about filling a tank that is still partially filled is straight from the manual...
NOTE: If your tank already has a partial fill in it, you will want to keep the valve closed
until pressure in the hose is close to the pressure already in the tank. Once the
compressor fills the hose within 300 psi of the pressure already in the tank, open the
valve.
All the best, Chuckster636
Great topic. Thanks for sharing.
Great job on the video. I'm pretty much sold on it.
Is there any benefit in leaving the pump on to circulate water for a while after a long fill to help cool it down? And, what happens to the water level? Do you need to keep topping it off on a regular basis? Many thanks for the work you put into this, thumbs up and subbed.
Cheers!
I want one and not a booster Thank you for educating me on this product!! Semper Fi!
You bet!
priceless info.. do more like this.
Glad you found the info helpful.
great video Cam !!
Thanks, Rick!
Very nice product video again TwangnBang, very fast filling, and no slam filling ✌👌👍
Thanks, Jan!
For safety, you should fill tanks / bottles in a rupture containment box. At the Fire dept. I work for, we have a vertical container we stand our SCBA bottles in while filling. It also served to dissipate heat as we used a cascade system that can cause overheating. Adds to cost but also to piece of mind encase of a rupture or overfill failure.
Not a bad idea, but luckily, tank ruptures are extremely, extremely rare as burst discs are very effective. I've been all over the world and have never seen bottles filled in anything other than a tub of water to keep them cool when getting filled fast.
Agreed with Cameron's comments. The burst tests on top of the actual burst discs are so many more multiples than 4,500 psi that you really don't hear of ruptures. Also on top of that you still need to have your tank re-certified every couple of years. So unless you are using a very old tank, replaced the burst discs with fixed nuts, etc. You really don't need to be too overly cautious.
That would be 'peace-of-mind, in case' not 'piece of mind encase'. Unless you are encasing part of your brain in epoxy.
Excellence demonstration, you hit to the point that I want to know about how the general compressor won't work with 4500psi tank and shown how to proceed fill out the tank.
I agree this explanation was so much better showing the pre-fill pressurization of the line, etc. great help
I'm totally getting this for my 4500psi paintball tanks... so I can do all the testing I want at home.
I really like your airgun videos. It seems like you make solid decisions when it comes to your airgun purchases and like I mentioned in your gun safe video, I have a highly modified Airforce Condor .25, a Benjamin Marauder .25 and a highly modified Crosman 2240 .22 carbine. I think this Air Venture compressor is exactly what I need, I stopped shooting as much as I like to just for the simple fact I have to drive all the way into Austin Texas to a dive shop to get my fill tank filled and even then sometimes they won't fill it right way and I have to come back at a later time. The town I live in is Georgetown and even though Georgetown isn't too far from Austin it's still a pain in the butt to drive back and forth.
Thanks for the great video and the heads up!
We hear your pain on the drive and time commitment to fill your air. This will definitely be a lifesaver for you both short term, and long term with the cost savings!
hey Airgun Depot, thanks for the comment! I got my Marauder 25 from you guys.
does this compressor filter out water and oil from entering your tank and or gun? saw no mention of water separator?
Good video, How long do you guys think it would take to top off a 44CF from 2800 to 4500 psi?
EXCELLENT VIDEO!!! AWESOME!!!! THANKS!!!!
Thanks for watching!
Nice instructional video
I like your video bro was very educational and very informative or instrucional now i know how to fill my 3000PSI tank if empty and all that but i will purchase the cheaper version compressor for now
Very cool! I know what I want for Christmas!
Maybe Santa will bring you one.
Just make sure you get that preorder in well before Christmas. We're already a month backed up at this point... can only imagine around Christmas time the demand. We are trying to help up the manufacturing capabilities, so hopefully we can tighten backorders to only needed to wait a couple of weeks
Ooo, thanks for the tip!
is it available in 230 volt?
Great video. I have another item on my wishlist.
Finally I can pump up my tires quicker.
Thanks man for info
I would love to have one of these for the tanks I use for paintball.
Great video thanks!
What is that 4500 psi storage tank you have?
I have a ShoeBox compressor too. This is so much nicer/faster. Thanks for the recommendation!
Yes, the ShoeBox was a fantastic solution until this came out. Not sure how they will continue to sell, especially since AirVenturi also came out with their own booster priced at $700 and built to be more reliable (reportedly).
Remember to crack the condensate drain valve often to keep your supply air as dry as possible prolonging your fill bottles.
That will pay for itself in thee long run. Cool!
Plus the convenience of it all. This is huge for the airgun world.
Good to see mine isn't the only one out there blowing a considerable amount of oil and water. I got mine in yesterday and I didn't expect to see all this. I assumed it would mostly be water only. Maybe because it so new or is this normal?
Nice addition to your collection, it will make filling up so much easier. I was wondering in your familiar with inovairtech at all? They crunch having a tank to carrying high powered cartridges that put quite the punch
Looks interesting.
A safety note you missed is why you crack open the value slowly for those all your viewers that don't know, is to minimize the chance of gages and regulators from rocketing off and into the operator or anyone/anything nearby. It's the same principle taken from industrial high pressure tanks commonly used in welding
The way to go 💯🇺🇸💪
In other compressors there is a filter in the connection. Does this compressor just not need a filter because of the bleed valve?
What size transfer tank are you using? 74cu ft? Or the 98cu ft? Also how long does it take to fill the transfer tank if it’s at or near 0psi?
This is what we need for paintball, we are always out of air.
You'll love having this.
Amen my good sir lol
Can you fill your tanks with it?
@@CrackD5 yeah if you have the right fittings
I see with the shoebox ones you can have an inlet of other inert gasses and compress them, can the same be done with this unit as I would like to compress nitrogen?
Yes, either inert gases or an air dryer before compression to keep water out. I also would like to know this. Nothing was mentioned about delivering dry air/gas to your air guns or storage tanks.
I don't see the link for the full auto pellet gun.
merci super
Awesome review ! I just got mine today, but you might want to add an annotation on the oil weight because my manual called for 5w40 lol you said 30
either way this is the best video/review on this product very useful information :)
What happens if I don't match the pressures before I fill it up?
I have never seen such a small air pump with such a high PSI rateing. If theres a way to ger grade A air out of it, this would be incredible. but even as is, for a vehicle based multi day hunting trip someone could have a near infinit suply of air for small and medium size game and target shooting. or if someone just lives far from a sorce of high PSI air this could be a great investment.
It would still cost a lot more because all of the parts would have to be "breathing air safe." Not sure if there would need to be significant structural changes, but maybe they'll stop by to say whether or not they could make a SCUBA-safe version of this.
not sure my self. the HEPA filters I've seen are low pressure or inlet side filters. if they could attach an inlet side filter that meets this requirement, them people who dive regularly or would if they didn't have to go get there tanks charged all the time could go more often. it would justify the experience hear in the mid south were there aren't places to regularly get air tanks filled like thar
The issue is that this compressor can introduce oil to the compressed air- not enough to be a problem for a machine, but potentially lethal for a set of lungs.
I see that, and water. those things would have to be changed if that was what they were shooting for, or if they ever wanted to go that way. but as a low volume high pressure pump, it looks like an exceptional system to have. also if you have the place to do it and dont mind getting wet. I'd enjoy seeing how some of thise air guns and the air bow could hit a target under water. as a just for fun.
Other than during the initial break-in run, any water that you see is simply from the air going from very high pressure to ambient pressure super rapidly. You'd see the same thing bleeding the lines from a SCUBA compressor that quickly. No extra moisture is getting into the bottles.
I have one coming. Do we need any kind of a drier between the compressor and tank? Thanks much. I'm excited to get mine. Brian Smith
It comes ready to rock.
Absolutely 💯🇺🇸💪
Do you have any problem with adding debris or moisture into the air tank? I own 7 pcp air rifles and pistols. This would be a great addition to my air gun setup.. Thanks
Not that I'm aware of. The moisture you see is from the pressure dropping really fast, which cools the air below its dew point. A big filter keeps debris from making it out of the compressor and into the tank.
It sounds like a old lawn mower starting 😂👍🏻
Good 👍👍👍👍
When you're bleeding how does it not pull air back from the tank?
Great video, that is really cool.:D If I had the money I'd get one.:D
Thanks for watching, Daniel!
Welcome to smarter every day
How many Cubic feet was that larger cylinder you filled in 6 minutes?
Awesome video, hope to get this set up too. You need a nice work bench or table set up so you can get off the floor 😉. Good looking gear.
It's 100 pounds filled with fluids, and it's nothing but vibration and hate when running. The floor is the best place for it.
Definitely sounds like it
Have you done a video over the pellet tommy gun?
No full video yet on the SMG 22.
@@weezerfan999 9...???and I know it II
Hi. Where can i find the double edge male connector?
Looks like it is based on a Tippmann paintball gun. I've wanted a Drozd blackbird for years.
It is, indeed.
About the water. One of my big concerns is moisture in the rifle cylinder. Can you address that issue. Either pre- or post-compressing the air. Thanks.
Moisture issues with this compressor are no different than any other compressor. Any rapid decompression also rapidly cools the gas being released, which then causes water vapor to condense. That’s the same with bleeding the lines of any compressor out there.
@@TWANGnBANG the air put into gun and tank isn't dried? no dry pack built in? or purely relying on condensing compressor base at outlet?
Take the side cover OFF on the side the pistons are on and put a Blower shooting air at them and temperature will not go above 50C and that's from 0 to 4000 PSI and you can hold your hand on the piston head no problem. Keep it cool and change the oil and it will last you. With the cover on and a blower about 64C. This is a hour and a half run non stop.
Where did you find that double male connector??
mantap... cepet banget
Can antifreeze be added to the cooling system for winter usage or storage?
You need to contact Air Venturi or Airgun Depot directly about that.
How much does this cost and does it have a warranty???
Ingersoll recommended a conventional oil until the rings are broke in and seated then switch over to a full synthetic oil. This keeps from having oil blow-by. Wonder if that would apply with this?
Already answered in the comments. Thanks for watching.
@@TWANGnBANG where?
Does a normal air pump words with the scuba tank
No, because it doesn’t have all of the same filtration needed to pressurize breathing gas.
How many shots can be made with one cylinder?
95degres c?!
i purchesed one with my friends and if it goes higher then 60c for some time the o rings are failing and need replacmant. its not a huge deal we just do a break between sevral tank fills. i was just wanduring what o rings you use that can handel that heat
I don't know the specifics, but 95degC is definitely the rated temp.
That's almost 212F boiling water!
silicon o rings should handle the heat easy
if you had the right adapter could you hook this up to your pcp without using a tank first?
Yes. Very easily done, actually. It’s just that is much less convenient.
@@TWANGnBANG Awesome. It's that or a hand pump for me until I can get a tank and I'm filling a .45 hatsan hercules bully ( which I just got two days ago and have yet to shoot) But I think I'm going with this filling method as I can only afford one of the few options. Love the channel!
look at polarstars i think you would enjoy them
you could also attempt to make friends with your local fire station. they might fill it for you. SCBA bottles are also filled to 4500 psi and their compressors can do it in about 30 seconds.
When you get it home, you will find that the tank has cooled and will be low if they do it that quick. Proper fill is in a tank of cold water, wait a few minutes then top off.
I hope nobody is filling tanks in 30 seconds. That is beyond slamming air in a tank and is a waste of everybody's time as the tank will get so hot that it will drop 400-500 psi by the time it cools easily, and you'll have to wait forever for it to cool. Much smarter to slow fill, which is why that's what this compressor does straight from the factory. Thanks for watching!
our support truck in the fire deparment i worked for had a refill station that was 30 seconds to a minute for a 4500 psi bottle... but its primary purpose was to get tanks refilled to get fire fighters back into the building quickly... it does sacrifice some total volume of course, and i would not recommend it.. for tank life and total volume. our normal filling took place off of multiple stage tanks around 1000 psi differences... done in a heat-sync / rupture protection system. And as stated above, there was a systematic delay between first topping and a second topping.
That's a slam fill for a purpose, though. Makes total sense for that.
Brandon Bichler, already tried that, it's against city ordinance "supposedly"
please give me a link to the full auto air rifle. thanks
Can the pressure be reduced to fill 3000 PSI SCUBA tanks? I shoot 10m air rifle and we use 3000 PSI.
Yes. It has an adjustable regulator.
I wonder if you are still satisfied with this compressor 4 years later???
In an emergency do you think you could use one of your tanks to put air in a tire I see there aren't any videos on RUclips about it and if you can can you make a how to
Output from the buddy bottle is 4500psi max, which is about 80x higher than what a typical tire can handle without at least blowing a bead. Exploding tires do happen to people who fill from high pressure bottles, and you can get seriously injured from it, which is why it's hard to find the appropriate fitting for a high pressure hose.
I was asking just in case of an emergency where I live is nothing but desert online I see fittings for nail guns for high-pressure tanks
It’s safer and cheaper to get a 12V compressor to keep in your vehicle.
@@TWANGnBANG The Paintball style tanks regulate down to around 800 psi, and a Palmer Stabilizer takes it from there and can regulate down to 0-250 psi, or the PowerTank PowerShot adapter can be used to fill tires from the 800 psi output of the paintball tanks. Just like using CO2. Much faster than those DC compressors. More than one way to fill a tire safely.
I need one.
gaw!
Yes, I now have a 4500psi compressor in my basement, and it's awesome.
Hay , I ,m very new to this. I have the same tank as this guy, I have regular 150psi air compressor, can it fill the tank?
You will only get 150psi in it unless you use a booster compressor. However, portable compressors like this one are just as cheap, so you might as well go with it: bit.ly/2RP2GlE
Hermano mi compresor no comprime no tiene precio puedes hacer un tutorial de las fallas más frecuentes
The expensive and less than stellar electric compressors are the main reason I never got into PCP.
I think you'll like this solution.
I wonder if that compressor still works 3+yrs later.
It very much does.
You did this 2 year ago, give us feedback pls. How has it been? Any problems?
Zero. None. Still works as good as new.
seems cooler and compressor could be on same switch.
These will be great for regular shooters, or clubs and shops- far cheaper than existing options that have been in the ~£1500-4000 range up until recently.
That said, I'm looking forward to an even smaller and cheaper option coming from SnowPeak, whenever that appears on the market.
Those are awesome shoes! What's the make?
Keen Versatrail. amzn.to/2q87Kpx
Is for compressed air or co2
Air.
This man looks far too happy shooting that pellet gun lol
Anyone know what size that 4500 psi tank is that he’s filling? I know the small one is a 48/3000.
DKG Paintball thats normally about a 72 or 74 cubic ft bottle. about $500.
mrobertson188 thanks my paintball team and I were looking for a relatively cheap compressor to fill our 88cf scuba’s.