She insists she wasn't raised in an extremist home... but one of her prime motivations for going to Syria was that she really believed she would go to hell... _because she lived in Britain!_ That is a very extreme belief, and it's odd that she doesn't seem to recognize this.
Exactly!! What she considers non-extremist is not normal in any way and doesn't sound like a secular British home as she thinks. This woman wasn't "groomed" by ISIS. She was groomed in the home she grew up in. She sounds hyper and very scattered. Jordan keeps interrupting her and putting words in her mouth instead of letting her speak. He is a terrible interviewer.
That's a lot for one person to live through; one thing after another, after another, after another (even before going to Syria). And it's not like she's an older woman, recounting her past after a few decades. It's probably going to take this girl a long time to really parse out how everything was able to happen the way it did. She's probably just grateful to be home and either doesn't see it or doesn't want to, ya know? It's her family.
@@RohiHabibi Was it Isis that ignored her getting her clock rocked by a violent husband? Was it Isis that raised her with a foundation that allowed her to believe living in Britain was going to send her to hell? I'm not trying to demonize her parents. I'm just not willing to ignore the fact that they raised someone who choose time and time again to stay with an abusive husband... and who looked at photos of an Isis member on FB and said to herself..."that looks appealing. I'll talk to him"....I'm not trying to be harsh, just direct. She put herself out there to be a cautionary tale and while it was brave, unfortunately some of those lessons expose some pretty harsh realities about her life. And one of those lessons is that you don't just leap from watching the Kardashian to being so reckless you'd take yourself and your child to Syria to join a terrorist organization for the lols. There's a lot that has to happen, and a lot you have to ignore, to set that in motion. And it was clear to me, from her own story, that abuse from a spouse wasn't all it took. This isn't the kind of thing that happens to just anyone. Those recruiters look for a specific mindset because they know it's easy to exploit. And that mindset is formed pretty early by the people that are raising you, either by teaching or neglect. It's just the way it is.
Why she was given a chance to relive in England after being a tool for IS ?? This political correctness will prove costly 1 day for the western civilization.😢
@@RohiHabibi then why she went there? And how do u know she is deradicalised now? It sets a bad precedence. If she is really sorry, then must leave that religion which made her vulnerable
I mean it did not seem like she did much. But if anything she is way to hand-wavy in the Islam part, as she would never have been there whiteout this link. There is a lot of cognitive dissonance from her site, and just speculation I think she must be lying about some of the parts as it does seem like she is downplaying the pictures more than necessary. Like she was already lying to her dad, about her abuse. Maybe she is from a "picture perfect family", there already has "status quo bias" so there is already some cognitive dissonance and 2 religions. Like you must lose some touch with reality, with all that pressure and different ideas. What I am trying to say is, she must at least be lying to herself to a good level.
I agree, it really pisses me the fuck off, the arrogance and the audacity to say” oh everyone used to be a Muslim so your just going back to your origin religion” like what the actual fuck!!
@@learningis7857stupid comment bc who in the actual fuck even said that EVERYONE used to be Muslim and what else are you supposed to call someone that has come back to a faith/religion bc u call someone new a CONVERT so Revert doesn't sound that bad especially the way u wrote ur comment 🙄🤦🏻♂️
That's because she isn't. When you say Islam (who demands the atrocities done by isis) it's a beautiful religion, she's just a sleeper cell... Ready for next time
I used to live in London and this is how they talk in secondary school in the ghetto parts of London. So there is an aspect of aggressiveness that's cultural. However, I also agree, there is very little emotion.
@@kpopfanxx-xx1154 Not a lot. Some. And ignorance? despair? Most of the people that "converted" BTW become atheist after they learn this evil religion is not so "free and forgiving".
The cult is somehow unblamable because they call it a religion, yet their books unashamedly tell you how evil it is. The problem is people like her even though she follows it do not read the books or are told the good things only from it and this is the only reason it is so popular. If she had read their books she would see it's not as peaceful as she thinks it is. This always makes me suspicious aswell when they say it's a peaceful religion but when like in the UK they could say anything they like and people will still want to protect it. We have so many of them telling us over here what their books say and that when they have power they will do it and everyone's like awww you are so cute and peaceful awww. I can't understand it but I hope before it's to late they wake up to it.
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@@yudhasetiawan1220ok, you said all of that.....do you think the Christians were wrong for any of that? If so, then I assume you're against Islam doing the same.
Why ISIS never helped Palestinans ? Why ISIS never attacked Israel ? May be they didn't want to attack their MASTERS ? Didn't Israel bomb Gaza before Oct 7 th ? Really ? 😂😂😂.. were you in Coma ? How ignorants compare Palestinans fighting for their freedom with ISIS ? ISIS destroyed Islamic herritages sites and killed muslims more than others .
@@Avastidas Why? Because she said she had always supported "Palestine" during the conversation. Because Hamas are terrorists that kill civilians/ Israel has never attacked first in any war with Gaza. If Palestinians insist on trying to attack then Israel has every right to protect its citizens. Jews have been on that land for 3600 years. If arabs hadn't attacked in 1948 and lost things would be very different! Plus, they all want to kill the Jews! That's why! Got it?
@@space_cadet81 🤣What about Oct 6 Oct 5, Oct 5 ,Oct 4....... 2022 , 2021 , 2014 , 2008 ..... 1967 ..... 1948... ? Do.millions of Palestininans bombed , killed and expelled.... Only Jews life are imporatant. Other's life is nothing ? 😡
I don’t think so! Here in Sweden these radical islamists and criminal refugee gangs seek up young men AND women with unstable backgrounds, problem in school, maybe have single parents, maybe neurological disfunktion, mobbed in the school. Young people that seeks friendships, stabilety and want to belong to something and be seen and heard.🧐
British always believed Muslims were on their side! It was bcos of Muslims they were able to Colonize India for hundreds of years and win the Colonization lottery to rule the world! It was called the East India company not the China company! They rewarded Muslims by dividing India and giving them Pakistan when they left! There is a reason why Britain is overrun by Pakistanis and Bangladeshis! They were invited!
I also do not trust her. No person should EVER trust a woman WHO IS A MOTHER who puts her baby boy's life at risk by taking him to ISIS' living quarters. Any woman who does that has no cares for her own child's safety. She does not deserve to have a child.
Much of what really was happening in the Middle East after 2005, was not publicised by the mainstream media. The genocides against the Kurdish tribespeople for example. The establishment of the caliphate was never pub;I used either. There are large Muslim communities in the U.K. - I guess they thought it might cause civil disorder. Of course, that soft-war ended up to where we are now.
She shouldn't have been allowed back in UK. Government needs to find out what's happening in mosques. It's obvious first loyalty doesn't lie with their western countries. Wherever they live.
Trust me, Govt know very well what happens inside the mosque, they have undercover cops in all areas with significant muslim populations. Mosques are not the problem. First of all no one should have live or die loyalty to their country because governments couldn't give two f's about their citizens. Second of all, many christians, jews, Sikhs etc are all loyal to their religion over the country they are in - what is your point about making it just about muslims? Don't see you mentioning an issue with Jewish only areas in London and NY where they have their own schools and shut off communities as well as judicial system !!
I think she's sympathetic because she was motivated by religion, not hate. She didn't do anything violent, and she didn't do anything to help isis. She was naive and left the first chance she got. She seems very honest and forthcoming. As a father to a 6 year old, I can't imagine putting my child through that. It makes more sense if you accept she truly didn't know what she was getting into. That's the most important point: she didn't know what she was getting into. I believe her. She isn't the first or last to make bad decisions based on religious convictions. Christians accuse Muslims of being backwards, stupid, and violent. The only real difference is Christians are less violent these days. America is too powerful for radical groups to take over a state by force. I'm very curious why Jordan said she was less than honest about marrying the fighter that died. I'm sure he knows something we don't. My feeling was that she didn't consider it a legal marriage. She said she talked to the dude for ten minutes and told the caretaker she didn't want to marry him. She did what she had to do to escape. There was nothing legitimate about it unless there's more to the story. I wish I could read between the lines.
@@Melinmingle she did mention hate: she said she never hated England. If she said she hated Brits or Americans, nobody would feel sorry for her.. Nothing about her story suggests she was violent. She talked a lot about her motivations. They were irrational, but the only anger she had was towards her abuser. Maybe she lied about everything. I can't test her story, but it seems honest.
@@christinadelaney9492 you need to understand I grew up in a family and community of Southern Baptist. Apologists. There is no critical thinking, no justification for ignoring the old testament except that it's too ridiculous even for them. Meaningless rituals include baptism, prayer, and communion. You're free to pursue happiness, but I'm not impressed with any religion. It's not even an interesting philosophical debate to me - no more than debating whether or not Santa Claus is real. Anyway, regardless of whether Christianity is slightly less bad than Islam, we can all agree her motivations and logic (which was largely based on religion) were misguided. That was my point.
@@Mikejones011990 agreed but they are nothing more than words. I, for example, if i were at a desperate position where i want to return to the west (and create job oppertunities like these), i wouldnt admit to any negative emotions
Its ironic that She thanking the god who saved few peoples out of ISIS including her while completely forgetting the much higher number of people who got trapped in that shit hole by that same god. Very contradictory.
What I’m hearing is someone who still hasn’t found out that, what she was feeling for that man was not love. She might benefit from therapy to discover what happened within herself that had her stay and give up her Self and take on an ideology of death and destruction.
She is a lovely person but her highly strung energy makes it really dizzy to hear her talk, i can feel my blood pressure and stress rising just listening to her lol.
So, I am glad I am not the only one who feels that. I wouldn't say she's a lovely person though. She literally gave me a headache with the way she talks. I don't believe her though.
She needs to put her hands down, but it isn't just that, her speech and everything. Holy cow, I can't watch this whole video. She's deranged, like all of her cult members 😂
What an incredibly compelling interview. It is unfortunate that there will be individuals out there who will attack her, and even you, Jordan, for conducting this interview. The story she shares is real. My wife and her family escaped from Iran when she was young, and they have shared stories with me. I, too, have experienced events as a child that directly influenced my outlook on myself and the world around me in a way that was irrational and detrimental. People can be groomed, and they are. There are traumatic events in one's life that can, as in her case, lead us to make very irrational decisions. I hope that she continues to educate not only those in England but also others around the world on the dangers of grooming and how these processes work. This will help us always be vigilant with our children online and with our friends. Excellent interview, Jordan.
Apart from the Prince of Peace is Hell, both here and there after. He is the Way, the Truth and the Life. Invite Him into your heart and you will see things differently.
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What she describes in her first marriage is a trauma bond with a highly narcissistic abuser. Those are the classic signs of a trauma bond. it can bring a highly intelligent person to the level of an indentured slave because narcissists play on patterns of past trauma in order to brainwash their victims into serving them. I feel for her.
I wish this interview had a different format with the interviewer allowing the guest to speak uninterrupted for longer periods of time, with a lot less frequent questions and interjections.
Im so glad I watched this interview. I remember having an opinion about this when it happened and I was under the same impression as everyone else. I appreciated her candor , and her authenticity. Appreciate her speaking up on this issue. So glad she met that Emam. I am sure there is plenty of room in Heaven for her. I would have used her name but I wasn't sure how to spell it. I know she and you said it a few times @The Jordan Harbinger Show except you haven't identified her in the description so I wasn't sure of spelling.
She is so LOUD and speaking 1000 miles an hour and seems like she is lying about alot and being the victim and tricked by everyone like she didn't know what was going on when she says she watched videos and was friends with them on FB (like they didnt have crazy videos they were posting! She just randomly hit up some dude to say "stay safe" or whatever, YEA RIGHT she was looking for some pp bc her dude was away and didnt she say her and her husband were "Done" she didnt care about him at all but yet she said if he said he was flying back she would have stayed? Why stay if the relationship is "Over" and she wasnt married to the American isis fighte, why would he and his family lie? U seen how long it took her to answer.. So i know she is lying a ton just so the government wont take away her citizenship and kick her out, trying to sound like the British citizen of all citizens give me a break! Tell her stop talking so damn loud too, thx!
so she went and joined isis, left because she expirienced shariah law and still remained muslim because a "nice" imam told her she got it wrong.... right logical she's an upstanding citizen now. no chance of being influenced at all
Common in abuse victims to be trauma bonded to their abuser. This is basic knowledge. It takes a while to process how abusive and dangerous the relationship really was. Also why women go back to their abusers and or don’t file charges against them until much later if they do at all
Read the hadith and sunna and the quran in the original arabic . Not the translation but in arabic and then proof to me that =Lam is not a violent religion.
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Imagine being a regular guy. If you ever fuck up in the slightest, people will write you the fucccckkk off! You are cute. Enjoy the tidings that brings. A lot of us guys are living in the gutter.
Christianity was often spread by colonial countries in their colonies as part of a colonial strategy. The spread of this religion not only aims to change the beliefs of local residents, but is also often used as a tool of social and cultural control. Here are some examples of how Christianity was spread in the colonies: Religious Missions: Many colonists, such as the Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch, and British, sent Christian missionaries to the colonies to teach this religion to the local population. Missionaries often played a role in establishing churches, schools, and hospitals as a means of attracting the interest of local communities. Collaboration with Colonial Governments: Missionaries often collaborated with colonial governments to strengthen colonial power. Local residents who converted to Christianity were sometimes given more advantageous positions in the colonial social structure, thereby speeding up the assimilation process. Education and Social Services: Colonists used education as a tool to spread Christianity. Schools founded by missionaries taught Christian religious doctrine and Western culture. Additionally, health services and humanitarian aid provided by churches encourage religious conversion in exchange for material support. Social and Economic Pressure: In some regions, social and economic pressure drives local populations to convert to Christianity. For example, people who accepted Christianity were often considered more "civilized" by colonial governments and were given easier access to jobs or resources. Prohibition of Local Religions: Some colonists also prohibited or restricted the practice of local traditional religions, forcing the population to convert to Christian.
You mean man-made religions were weaponized by warlords to conquer others? Shocking. What makes anything you said different from what Muhammad did in the 600s. Religion was spread by sword not by reasoning.
There is no such thing as reversion! Its propaganda, taqqiya! Islam started in 7th century BC. Abrahams son Isaac was chosen by GOD for the 12 tribes of Israel. Its fact. This said, we can listen and discuss.
Well that's stupid, support one evil regime, Isis from another evil regime, Netanyahu. Get all the innocent people out of both groups, then let em have at each other.
She sounds so chaotic. Something feels off in this interview. Not blaming Jordan for anything. If this woman is famous then I would book her into my podcast as well, but I really didn't enjoy this as much as many other conversations on this podcast.
Camus said: To misname things is to add misfortune to the world. _It's not Isis it's Islam that use Free Palestine. According to Islam (Sharia) Shahid groups are not wrong . We can go further in comparison to a father who has been just his life, the shahid has more right to paradise even if he killed kuffar. Be careful on the title you use
Throughout history, the countries most frequently involved in colonization were European powers, especially during the colonial era from the 15th to 20th centuries. Some of them are: 1. **England** - The British Empire had one of the largest empires in history. At their peak, they colonized more than a quarter of the world, including countries in Asia, Africa, the Americas and Oceania. Large countries such as India, Australia, Canada and many countries in Africa were once part of the British Empire. 2. **Spain** - The Spanish Empire was one of the largest and most influential in the world, especially in the 16th to 18th centuries. They controlled most of South America, Central America, and some areas in North America and Asia (such as the Philippines). 3. **France** - France had many colonies in Africa, Asia, the Caribbean, and North America. Its colonial empire expanded rapidly in the 19th and 20th centuries, especially in Africa and Southeast Asia. 4. **Portugal** - As one of the pioneers of colonialism, Portugal controlled areas in South America (Brazil), Africa and Asia (including India, Eastern Indonesia and Macau). 5. **Netherlands** - The Netherlands had colonies in Southeast Asia (such as Indonesia), the Caribbean, South Africa and parts of North America. Although not as large as England or Spain, the Netherlands played an important role in trade and colonization. Apart from these states, other empires such as Russia, Japan, and the Ottomans also engaged in territorial expansion and colonization, although on a more limited scale. This era of colonialism has left a huge impact on global history, creating political, economic, and cultural changes in many regions of the world. Hypocrite western people😂
@@MrRedDnb Your reasons are similar to modern Japanese people who don't know the history of their country's past. Modern Japanese people in their history education system have never been taught to know the dark history of their country, namely colonizing other countries.
@@yudhasetiawan1220 I’m proud to be British !Just look at what this small nation has done throughout history . A small nation like this responsible for 55% of the world’s innovations! A country that won’t be bullied and stands up for the victims of persecution ! This small nation stood up against evil in the 40s . We will stand up again if it come to it we are a nation of fighters . In the modern era this nation has forgotten why its great they’ve been shamed into believing the narrative. But I stand proud of our Christian values and beliefs that built this great nation I’m proud of the people that have come here from far away lands and embraced our ways they can be proud of what they’ve helped build ! I’d jus say those who insist in living in the past never move forward !
Funny how those who want to coerce others to believe like they do will resort to violence to do it. Doesnt say alot about a religion full of love and peace.
this was up for 3 months but I see it now why take so long to be seen/found?...and she was looking for bad stuff and she found it she has herself to blame and why is she in the west she dose not belong in the west
isis considers the Palestinian resistance (h*mas) as apostates- I can't take anybody seriously who does a video like this without mentioning that GLARING issue to the narrative here- read the book - the way of the stranger by Grahme Wood
20 mins in and she just really doesn't come across as a genuine person to me. I feel she's hiding a lot! Maybe it's shame who knows, but her frantic speaking is pretty telling. i myself have had traumatic experiences, so I can understand someone having it all mumbles and trying to get it out, but this isn't that!
She insists she wasn't raised in an extremist home... but one of her prime motivations for going to Syria was that she really believed she would go to hell... _because she lived in Britain!_ That is a very extreme belief, and it's odd that she doesn't seem to recognize this.
Exactly!! What she considers non-extremist is not normal in any way and doesn't sound like a secular British home as she thinks. This woman wasn't "groomed" by ISIS. She was groomed in the home she grew up in. She sounds hyper and very scattered. Jordan keeps interrupting her and putting words in her mouth instead of letting her speak. He is a terrible interviewer.
Totally agree!
That's a lot for one person to live through; one thing after another, after another, after another (even before going to Syria). And it's not like she's an older woman, recounting her past after a few decades. It's probably going to take this girl a long time to really parse out how everything was able to happen the way it did. She's probably just grateful to be home and either doesn't see it or doesn't want to, ya know? It's her family.
The isis guy fed her that belief not her family
@@RohiHabibi Was it Isis that ignored her getting her clock rocked by a violent husband? Was it Isis that raised her with a foundation that allowed her to believe living in Britain was going to send her to hell?
I'm not trying to demonize her parents. I'm just not willing to ignore the fact that they raised someone who choose time and time again to stay with an abusive husband... and who looked at photos of an Isis member on FB and said to herself..."that looks appealing. I'll talk to him"....I'm not trying to be harsh, just direct.
She put herself out there to be a cautionary tale and while it was brave, unfortunately some of those lessons expose some pretty harsh realities about her life. And one of those lessons is that you don't just leap from watching the Kardashian to being so reckless you'd take yourself and your child to Syria to join a terrorist organization for the lols. There's a lot that has to happen, and a lot you have to ignore, to set that in motion. And it was clear to me, from her own story, that abuse from a spouse wasn't all it took. This isn't the kind of thing that happens to just anyone. Those recruiters look for a specific mindset because they know it's easy to exploit. And that mindset is formed pretty early by the people that are raising you, either by teaching or neglect. It's just the way it is.
11:25 so the guy beat his pregnant wife and instead of arresting the dude they find a new home for the pregnant wife.... absurd UK
Why she was given a chance to relive in England after being a tool for IS ??
This political correctness will prove costly 1 day for the western civilization.😢
they are using her for propaganda.
She was a victim too. She didn’t understand or know what she was getting into
@@RohiHabibi then why she went there? And how do u know she is deradicalised now? It sets a bad precedence. If she is really sorry, then must leave that religion which made her vulnerable
@@RohiHabibinot really
I mean it did not seem like she did much. But if anything she is way to hand-wavy in the Islam part, as she would never have been there whiteout this link.
There is a lot of cognitive dissonance from her site, and just speculation I think she must be lying about some of the parts as it does seem like she is downplaying the pictures more than necessary.
Like she was already lying to her dad, about her abuse. Maybe she is from a "picture perfect family", there already has "status quo bias" so there is already some cognitive dissonance and 2 religions.
Like you must lose some touch with reality, with all that pressure and different ideas.
What I am trying to say is, she must at least be lying to herself to a good level.
As long as she keeps saying "Islam is a beautiful religion", she is still a sleeper cell.
Nothing good about islam
You're a dummy she knows it people that are the issue
And since she said "we were standing for Palestine" I stopped feeling sympathy and sorrow for her.
What do you know about Islam! , don't believe anything it said in the media.
you are so smart! love from israel 🇮🇱
Revert is a silly word . We need to stop pandering to their insanity . Thanks . Great interview
Agree bro, that word is shit
@@twodoorknob Why do you Her irritated ? Muslims dont believe that children born with sins inheruted from parents like Christianity belief . Lmao
I agree, it really pisses me the fuck off, the arrogance and the audacity to say” oh everyone used to be a Muslim so your just going back to your origin religion” like what the actual fuck!!
@@learningis7857stupid comment bc who in the actual fuck even said that EVERYONE used to be Muslim and what else are you supposed to call someone that has come back to a faith/religion bc u call someone new a CONVERT so Revert doesn't sound that bad especially the way u wrote ur comment 🙄🤦🏻♂️
@@JR_5280here come brainwashed islamist😂
Somehow she doesn't sound sincere or completely truthful. She is a good talker that's for sure.
Agree 100%
That's because she isn't. When you say Islam (who demands the atrocities done by isis) it's a beautiful religion, she's just a sleeper cell... Ready for next time
She seems like shes seriously over exaggerating
I used to live in London and this is how they talk in secondary school in the ghetto parts of London. So there is an aspect of aggressiveness that's cultural. However, I also agree, there is very little emotion.
Islam is the problem, not radicalism
Exactly
YES!
Dumbest thing I've heard. You don't know a single Muslim person in your whole life do you?
Then why are a lot of people converting to the 'problem'??
@@kpopfanxx-xx1154
Not a lot. Some. And ignorance? despair?
Most of the people that "converted" BTW become atheist after they learn this evil religion is not so "free and forgiving".
The cult is somehow unblamable because they call it a religion, yet their books unashamedly tell you how evil it is. The problem is people like her even though she follows it do not read the books or are told the good things only from it and this is the only reason it is so popular. If she had read their books she would see it's not as peaceful as she thinks it is.
This always makes me suspicious aswell when they say it's a peaceful religion but when like in the UK they could say anything they like and people will still want to protect it. We have so many of them telling us over here what their books say and that when they have power they will do it and everyone's like awww you are so cute and peaceful awww. I can't understand it but I hope before it's to late they wake up to it.
Christianity was often spread by colonial countries in their colonies as part of a colonial strategy. The spread of this religion not only aims to change the beliefs of local residents, but is also often used as a tool of social and cultural control. Here are some examples of how Christianity was spread in the colonies: Religious Missions: Many colonists, such as the Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch, and British, sent Christian missionaries to the colonies to teach this religion to the local population. Missionaries often played a role in establishing churches, schools, and hospitals as a means of attracting the interest of local communities. Collaboration with Colonial Governments: Missionaries often collaborated with colonial governments to strengthen colonial power. Local residents who converted to Christianity were sometimes given more advantageous positions in the colonial social structure, thereby speeding up the assimilation process. Education and Social Services: Colonists used education as a tool to spread Christianity. Schools founded by missionaries taught Christian religious doctrine and Western culture. Additionally, health services and humanitarian aid provided by churches encourage religious conversion in exchange for material support. Social and Economic Pressure: In some regions, social and economic pressure drives local populations to convert to Christianity. For example, people who accepted Christianity were often considered more "civilized" by colonial governments and were given easier access to jobs or resources. Prohibition of Local Religions: Some colonists also prohibited or restricted the practice of local traditional religions, forcing the population to convert to Christian.
@@yudhasetiawan1220what are you saying with this? It is still better than Islam... who just stay home, shut up and breed
@@yudhasetiawan1220ok, you said all of that.....do you think the Christians were wrong for any of that? If so, then I assume you're against Islam doing the same.
These books should be outlawed in the western world
Read "The Reliance of the Traveler" & "The Hidayah" to learn what they believe & what's coming for any area that allows them in.
At one point she said "even jewish." I wonder what her feelings of Oct 7, Hamas, and the Gaza war are.
Yes, exactly.
Why ISIS never helped Palestinans ? Why ISIS never attacked Israel ? May be they didn't want to attack their MASTERS ? Didn't Israel bomb Gaza before Oct 7 th ? Really ? 😂😂😂.. were you in Coma ? How ignorants compare Palestinans fighting for their freedom with ISIS ? ISIS destroyed Islamic herritages sites and killed muslims more than others .
@@Avastidas Why? Because she said she had always supported "Palestine" during the conversation. Because Hamas are terrorists that kill civilians/ Israel has never attacked first in any war with Gaza. If Palestinians insist on trying to attack then Israel has every right to protect its citizens. Jews have been on that land for 3600 years. If arabs hadn't attacked in 1948 and lost things would be very different! Plus, they all want to kill the Jews! That's why! Got it?
She made it clear earlier. She supported the Palestinian cause even financially.
@@space_cadet81 🤣What about Oct 6
Oct 5, Oct 5 ,Oct 4....... 2022 , 2021 , 2014 , 2008 ..... 1967 ..... 1948... ?
Do.millions of Palestininans bombed , killed and expelled.... Only Jews life are imporatant. Other's life is nothing ? 😡
"ISIS cannot groom just anyone, you haver to be quite vulnerable." And a Muslim.
Same like Hitler groomed Christians. Lmao
I don’t think so! Here in Sweden these radical islamists and criminal refugee gangs seek up young men AND women with unstable backgrounds, problem in school, maybe have single parents, maybe neurological disfunktion, mobbed in the school. Young people that seeks friendships, stabilety and want to belong to something and be seen and heard.🧐
It's not just muslims it's also lost souls they can weaponize because they "blend in"
So all they have to do is convert. That's how Islam grows, converting non-muslims.
true. But even non-muslims are vulnerable to indoctrination. Terror organizations now are full of white fighters, stupid white fighters I must say.
Why did British make any of this their problem. The price of not studying history is losing the future. Repulsive.
The politicians don’t care if Muslims flood the country and become radical
Because the UK became a terrorist hub. The things that happen now in the UK is exactly how the situation in Israel started. Islam is a PROBLEM.
British have been and always have been the very best that the world have to offer, read history and see the effect that the British have on the world.
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British always believed Muslims were on their side! It was bcos of Muslims they were able to Colonize India for hundreds of years and win the Colonization lottery to rule the world! It was called the East India company not the China company! They rewarded Muslims by dividing India and giving them Pakistan when they left! There is a reason why Britain is overrun by Pakistanis and Bangladeshis! They were invited!
I don't trust her.
The Muslim Brotherhood is doing this in Iran as well, kidnapping children from the streets and turning them into terrorists.
Who would ? She is reading a script from the papers….. 😂😂😂
You don't trust her, but you trust ISIS, the terrorist organization?
@@worldinformationcentre2251 You don't trust her, but you trust ISIS and Hamas, the terrorist organizations?
I also do not trust her. No person should EVER trust a woman WHO IS A MOTHER who puts her baby boy's life at risk by taking him to ISIS' living quarters. Any woman who does that has no cares for her own child's safety. She does not deserve to have a child.
She gets under my skin, not buying her narrative. This is such a disengeneous conversation. No probing questions from him.
In what sense she isn't telling the truth then according to you? Seems far fetched to me.
@@DutchmanAmsterdamperhaps justme is questioning her being truly cured of her Islamic disease.
Its not a peaceful anything. Now she wants to reform it as a spokesperson? Ill stick with mosab Yousef thanks.
Exactly
She isn't healed, she's still on that drug.
All cults are drugs.
There is no reforming it, it's all in the Quran all of it.
Much of what really was happening in the Middle East after 2005, was not publicised by the mainstream media. The genocides against the Kurdish tribespeople for example. The establishment of the caliphate was never pub;I used either. There are large Muslim communities in the U.K. - I guess they thought it might cause civil disorder. Of course, that soft-war ended up to where we are now.
Because it's a cult
She shouldn't have been allowed back in UK. Government needs to find out what's happening in mosques. It's obvious first loyalty doesn't lie with their western countries. Wherever they live.
Loyalty always lies with their religion first.
Trust me, Govt know very well what happens inside the mosque, they have undercover cops in all areas with significant muslim populations. Mosques are not the problem. First of all no one should have live or die loyalty to their country because governments couldn't give two f's about their citizens. Second of all, many christians, jews, Sikhs etc are all loyal to their religion over the country they are in - what is your point about making it just about muslims? Don't see you mentioning an issue with Jewish only areas in London and NY where they have their own schools and shut off communities as well as judicial system !!
The "dual loyalty" antisemitic trope recycle into a racist antiislamic "dual loyalty" one... Nice one buddy 😌
I think she's sympathetic because she was motivated by religion, not hate. She didn't do anything violent, and she didn't do anything to help isis. She was naive and left the first chance she got. She seems very honest and forthcoming.
As a father to a 6 year old, I can't imagine putting my child through that. It makes more sense if you accept she truly didn't know what she was getting into.
That's the most important point: she didn't know what she was getting into. I believe her.
She isn't the first or last to make bad decisions based on religious convictions. Christians accuse Muslims of being backwards, stupid, and violent. The only real difference is Christians are less violent these days. America is too powerful for radical groups to take over a state by force.
I'm very curious why Jordan said she was less than honest about marrying the fighter that died. I'm sure he knows something we don't. My feeling was that she didn't consider it a legal marriage. She said she talked to the dude for ten minutes and told the caretaker she didn't want to marry him. She did what she had to do to escape. There was nothing legitimate about it unless there's more to the story. I wish I could read between the lines.
You have now let millions of Muslims who are sympathetic to Isis into the West
She didnt mention hate so her motivations did not consist of hate?
@@Melinmingle she did mention hate: she said she never hated England. If she said she hated Brits or Americans, nobody would feel sorry for her.. Nothing about her story suggests she was violent.
She talked a lot about her motivations. They were irrational, but the only anger she had was towards her abuser. Maybe she lied about everything. I can't test her story, but it seems honest.
@@christinadelaney9492 you need to understand I grew up in a family and community of Southern Baptist. Apologists. There is no critical thinking, no justification for ignoring the old testament except that it's too ridiculous even for them.
Meaningless rituals include baptism, prayer, and communion.
You're free to pursue happiness, but I'm not impressed with any religion. It's not even an interesting philosophical debate to me - no more than debating whether or not Santa Claus is real.
Anyway, regardless of whether Christianity is slightly less bad than Islam, we can all agree her motivations and logic (which was largely based on religion) were misguided. That was my point.
@@Mikejones011990 agreed but they are nothing more than words. I, for example, if i were at a desperate position where i want to return to the west (and create job oppertunities like these), i wouldnt admit to any negative emotions
Its ironic that She thanking the god who saved few peoples out of ISIS including her while completely forgetting the much higher number of people who got trapped in that shit hole by that same god. Very contradictory.
What I’m hearing is someone who still hasn’t found out that, what she was feeling for that man was not love. She might benefit from therapy to discover what happened within herself that had her stay and give up her Self and take on an ideology of death and destruction.
She is a lovely person but her highly strung energy makes it really dizzy to hear her talk, i can feel my blood pressure and stress rising just listening to her lol.
Glad she isn’t a doctor lol
She suffered domestic abuse. It may be PTSD and/or anxiety. She presents that way at the least.
So, I am glad I am not the only one who feels that. I wouldn't say she's a lovely person though. She literally gave me a headache with the way she talks. I don't believe her though.
She needs to put her hands down, but it isn't just that, her speech and everything. Holy cow, I can't watch this whole video. She's deranged, like all of her cult members 😂
I wonder how less she has speaks about her son being their with her through out her journey into ISIS and the rescue story
Exactly! She barely mentioned it. One can literally forget that she had her child with her. Typical deceiving yarn spinning.
Something unsettling and erratic about her personality
She's still dysfunctional
What an incredibly compelling interview. It is unfortunate that there will be individuals out there who will attack her, and even you, Jordan, for conducting this interview. The story she shares is real. My wife and her family escaped from Iran when she was young, and they have shared stories with me. I, too, have experienced events as a child that directly influenced my outlook on myself and the world around me in a way that was irrational and detrimental. People can be groomed, and they are. There are traumatic events in one's life that can, as in her case, lead us to make very irrational decisions. I hope that she continues to educate not only those in England but also others around the world on the dangers of grooming and how these processes work. This will help us always be vigilant with our children online and with our friends. Excellent interview, Jordan.
Study islam not what they say it is.
I read the Quran and I'm not a Muslim anymore.....
@@gjh723 study the bible and history
@@davidboone9380 I read more than half of the Bible, it's still the same stories and fairy tales, all religions are the same............
@@gjh723 what fairy tale
@@davidboone9380 all religions....
She is all over the place. It's hard to take her word. Her deliberate obfuscation is suspicious.
You know it's tough to mix a bunch of lies in the original narrative without being detected.
She's just tryin to save her a$$.
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She is scripted …. Just defame Islam.
she is extreamly naive
No evil...muslims are only evil...and fake naive
A little too naive... seems like BS.... she either just wants to be heard for "her story" or she's a sleeper cell
Jordan you are amazing keep up the good work.
Apart from the Prince of Peace is Hell, both here and there after. He is the Way, the Truth and the Life. Invite Him into your heart and you will see things differently.
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I wondered why the interviewer did not ask her anything about how she feels about what happened on 7/10 with Hamas. How is she feeling about that now?
Yeah, I can´t stop thinking about that.
The bigger issue is, why are we raising teens that are easily recruited. We have allowed our education for children to be godless and empty.
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Where is Islam there is problem
😂😂😂Ohh. Hitler, Wintcent Churchil , Mussolin, Stalin ego butcheted million people were Muslims too 😂😂😂.
Why ISIS dont support Palestinans ?
The problem is when believe everything it said .check out the truth by yourself ,don't make them deceive you.
I can't believe she fell for all this
Exactly, it is just showing low intelligence and comment sense !!! Islam makes people to be so naive and unintelligent !!!
She had been manipulated and abused since age 20. She was incredibly vulnerable. She still is if she believes Islam
50:40 she thinks England is free. Not any longer thanks to Islam. Has she read the manual on Sharia law? Reliance of the Traveller
Didn’t she mention a child?
She doesn't understand islam well that s for sure
What she describes in her first marriage is a trauma bond with a highly narcissistic abuser. Those are the classic signs of a trauma bond. it can bring a highly intelligent person to the level of an indentured slave because narcissists play on patterns of past trauma in order to brainwash their victims into serving them. I feel for her.
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Very interesting! Thank you 🙏
I feel like this is a watered down version of the truth. It also lacks accountability.
I wish this interview had a different format with the interviewer allowing the guest to speak uninterrupted for longer periods of time, with a lot less frequent questions and interjections.
My world this woman can talk.. lol - good interview and I'm glad she's now helping people see sense...
She is Muslim. She isn’t helping anything in the West
Bullshit she’s only saving her ass
Yes everyone with Common Sense knows that.
Everyone knows it's easier to talk to a Brick Wall than an Activists.
She’s a bit full of herself for such a sensitive topic.
That’s exactly what I got !
Close family, "we fight together, we die together", hmmm
I was thinking the same thing 🫣😂
Im so glad I watched this interview. I remember having an opinion about this when it happened and I was under the same impression as everyone else. I appreciated her candor , and her authenticity. Appreciate her speaking up on this issue. So glad she met that Emam. I am sure there is plenty of room in Heaven for her. I would have used her name but I wasn't sure how to spell it. I know she and you said it a few times @The Jordan Harbinger Show except you haven't identified her in the description so I wasn't sure of spelling.
She is so LOUD and speaking 1000 miles an hour and seems like she is lying about alot and being the victim and tricked by everyone like she didn't know what was going on when she says she watched videos and was friends with them on FB (like they didnt have crazy videos they were posting! She just randomly hit up some dude to say "stay safe" or whatever, YEA RIGHT she was looking for some pp bc her dude was away and didnt she say her and her husband were "Done" she didnt care about him at all but yet she said if he said he was flying back she would have stayed? Why stay if the relationship is "Over" and she wasnt married to the American isis fighte, why would he and his family lie? U seen how long it took her to answer.. So i know she is lying a ton just so the government wont take away her citizenship and kick her out, trying to sound like the British citizen of all citizens give me a break! Tell her stop talking so damn loud too, thx!
Gender equality offered by Islam.
so she went and joined isis, left because she expirienced shariah law and still remained muslim because a "nice" imam told her she got it wrong.... right logical she's an upstanding citizen now. no chance of being influenced at all
Difference bw shameema begam and her is she ran out from there... She escaped and shameema surrendered becoz isis lost....
She needs to be in Prison for life if she was actually isis.. period
Exactly and the left want to let in more Muslims…..the definition of insanity
You have shit for Brains
Exactly.. political correctness is very harmful for western civilization
Seriously, I don't give her any credit-- I can't believe I'm watching some schmuck talk to her.
Some Nazis committed suicide. Should we forgive them? I think NOT!
She is reading a script ☝️😂 somebody made this all up 😅
Why wasnt she just so relieved to have him gone?! Who wants someone so much after they have beaten you daily?!!
Common in abuse victims to be trauma bonded to their abuser. This is basic knowledge. It takes a while to process how abusive and dangerous the relationship really was. Also why women go back to their abusers and or don’t file charges against them until much later if they do at all
You should use your experience to help other leople and pre ent them to join extremists in the UK
21:31 Link to the documentary?
Read the hadith and sunna and the quran in the original arabic . Not the translation but in arabic and then proof to me that =Lam is not a violent religion.
She keeps talking but I don't believe a word she says
And the Oscar goes to...
Worst Actress? Lol
She's a LIAR.
At 1:12, she is shocked by him saying they wouldn't have targeted her.
Send in social services to protect there children from radicalisation
Social Services have tried to remove Roma children in Harehills, a deprived suburb of Leeds, following child protection concerns.
The intervention sparked a large riot in Leeds, with vehicles set on fire and missiles hurled at officers. Some 20 arrests were made.
That's why, we are unlikely to see Social Services getting involved.
UK rules don't apply to certain communities or faiths.
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She's not believable at all.
Meanwhile isis condemned hamas for October 7th so there is something fishy
Imagine being a regular guy. If you ever fuck up in the slightest, people will write you the fucccckkk off! You are cute. Enjoy the tidings that brings. A lot of us guys are living in the gutter.
Thanks for the info🤔
Christianity was often spread by colonial countries in their colonies as part of a colonial strategy. The spread of this religion not only aims to change the beliefs of local residents, but is also often used as a tool of social and cultural control. Here are some examples of how Christianity was spread in the colonies: Religious Missions: Many colonists, such as the Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch, and British, sent Christian missionaries to the colonies to teach this religion to the local population. Missionaries often played a role in establishing churches, schools, and hospitals as a means of attracting the interest of local communities. Collaboration with Colonial Governments: Missionaries often collaborated with colonial governments to strengthen colonial power. Local residents who converted to Christianity were sometimes given more advantageous positions in the colonial social structure, thereby speeding up the assimilation process. Education and Social Services: Colonists used education as a tool to spread Christianity. Schools founded by missionaries taught Christian religious doctrine and Western culture. Additionally, health services and humanitarian aid provided by churches encourage religious conversion in exchange for material support. Social and Economic Pressure: In some regions, social and economic pressure drives local populations to convert to Christianity. For example, people who accepted Christianity were often considered more "civilized" by colonial governments and were given easier access to jobs or resources. Prohibition of Local Religions: Some colonists also prohibited or restricted the practice of local traditional religions, forcing the population to convert to Christian.
You mean man-made religions were weaponized by warlords to conquer others? Shocking. What makes anything you said different from what Muhammad did in the 600s. Religion was spread by sword not by reasoning.
Genuine question: what is sooooo beautiful in Islam. Name 3 things.
Good question
Thank you 🙏
Root cause is the ideology and hence ideology is intact no room for de-radicalisation
Shes exhausting, the host is bored
Hand of God = psychological manipulation
There is no such thing as reversion! Its propaganda, taqqiya! Islam started in 7th century BC. Abrahams son Isaac was chosen by GOD for the 12 tribes of Israel. Its fact. This said, we can listen and discuss.
I wish the interviewer vetts his guests better before bringing them on. This doesn't look good for this channel
She is still radical…lmao
Her essex accent makes this SOOO much crazier 😂😂
She sounds northern
Well that's stupid, support one evil regime, Isis from another evil regime, Netanyahu. Get all the innocent people out of both groups, then let em have at each other.
We know. We know what is happening but it’s nice to hear some truth
She sounds so chaotic. Something feels off in this interview. Not blaming Jordan for anything. If this woman is famous then I would book her into my podcast as well, but I really didn't enjoy this as much as many other conversations on this podcast.
She like as reading script , it's clearly unhonest
Camus said: To misname things is to add misfortune to the world. _It's not Isis it's Islam that use Free Palestine. According to Islam (Sharia) Shahid groups are not wrong .
We can go further in comparison to a father who has been just his life, the shahid has more right to paradise even if he killed kuffar.
Be careful on the title you use
Throughout history, the countries most frequently involved in colonization were European powers, especially during the colonial era from the 15th to 20th centuries. Some of them are: 1. **England** - The British Empire had one of the largest empires in history. At their peak, they colonized more than a quarter of the world, including countries in Asia, Africa, the Americas and Oceania. Large countries such as India, Australia, Canada and many countries in Africa were once part of the British Empire. 2. **Spain** - The Spanish Empire was one of the largest and most influential in the world, especially in the 16th to 18th centuries. They controlled most of South America, Central America, and some areas in North America and Asia (such as the Philippines). 3. **France** - France had many colonies in Africa, Asia, the Caribbean, and North America. Its colonial empire expanded rapidly in the 19th and 20th centuries, especially in Africa and Southeast Asia. 4. **Portugal** - As one of the pioneers of colonialism, Portugal controlled areas in South America (Brazil), Africa and Asia (including India, Eastern Indonesia and Macau). 5. **Netherlands** - The Netherlands had colonies in Southeast Asia (such as Indonesia), the Caribbean, South Africa and parts of North America. Although not as large as England or Spain, the Netherlands played an important role in trade and colonization. Apart from these states, other empires such as Russia, Japan, and the Ottomans also engaged in territorial expansion and colonization, although on a more limited scale. This era of colonialism has left a huge impact on global history, creating political, economic, and cultural changes in many regions of the world. Hypocrite western people😂
Your one sided history lessons are comical but slightly worrying!
@@MrRedDnbHe never mentioned Arab imperialism and colonialism.
@@MrRedDnb Your reasons are similar to modern Japanese people who don't know the history of their country's past. Modern Japanese people in their history education system have never been taught to know the dark history of their country, namely colonizing other countries.
@@shylanambiar4316 Yes, it is similar to the colonization carried out by the Byzantine Empire in the Arab region
@@yudhasetiawan1220 I’m proud to be British !Just look at what this small nation has done throughout history . A small nation like this responsible for 55% of the world’s innovations! A country that won’t be bullied and stands up for the victims of persecution ! This small nation stood up against evil in the 40s . We will stand up again if it come to it we are a nation of fighters . In the modern era this nation has forgotten why its great they’ve been shamed into believing the narrative. But I stand proud of our Christian values and beliefs that built this great nation I’m proud of the people that have come here from far away lands and embraced our ways they can be proud of what they’ve helped build ! I’d jus say those who insist in living in the past never move forward !
All you have here is a middle class clueless
Good lord, if this was my kid……… who has custody of my grandchild ……… just smh 🤦🏻♀️ thats all I can say.
Dang, it takes the Catholic Church seven years. What are they doing differently, Pope?
Disney does it even faster.
SHE IS A GREAT PRETENDER
Yeep, after her comments on Islam... definitely don't trust her
Oh really? Someone accused her of being intelligent.
I would think that it is one thing you cannot accuse her of.
Funny how those who want to coerce others to believe like they do will resort to violence to do it. Doesnt say alot about a religion full of love and peace.
this was up for 3 months but I see it now why take so long to be seen/found?...and she was looking for bad stuff and she found it she has herself to blame and why is she in the west she dose not belong in the west
isis considers the Palestinian resistance (h*mas) as apostates- I can't take anybody seriously who does a video like this without mentioning that GLARING issue to the narrative here- read the book - the way of the stranger by Grahme Wood
The real face of Islam
The way she talks as she reads a story or script 😂
I think she needs a lot of counseling still
Christmas 🎄 trees is not a specifically christian tradition. It has nothing to do with jesus.
Who created & funded ISIS ?
The filthy quran
JW
Interesting
20 mins in and she just really doesn't come across as a genuine person to me. I feel she's hiding a lot! Maybe it's shame who knows, but her frantic speaking is pretty telling. i myself have had traumatic experiences, so I can understand someone having it all mumbles and trying to get it out, but this isn't that!
Norman finkelstein on the open minded thinker show on youtube.
Sura 9;29,last big sura written,so abrogation...