Whose fault is it that people don't trust journalists, science, government entities? Because of corruption. The media is full of propaganda and lies. Science is clearly co-opted by who is paying for the research. Heaven forbid real research get done AND published if the results aren't what those who would lose money won't like. Government has become so corrupted by money that we ended up HERE where we are. Arguing that the people should just ignore all of that and believe whatever the wealthiest and powerful have decided to declare as "truth" is ridiculous. And it isn't happening anymore. So get over it, clean up the corruption, and if the journalists refuse to stop lying they deserve to go out of business.
New viewer here, first video ...annnnnd he's lying from the start. "Climate change denial" is *_not_* denial that the climate is changing. We *_know_* the climate is changing. What the argument *_actually_* is, is whether *_we_* are the *_cause_* and/or *_major contributor_* of that change! We are *_literally and scientifically still coming out of the last ice age!_* We *_expected_* the climate to change, for the planet to get warmer! The *_question_* is, yes, the planet got warmer, but is it supposed to be *_this much_* warmer, and *_this fast?_* Are we *_twenty degrees over, or only two?_* (For example, not actual numbers.) But *_lying leftists_* always make it sound like the right believes the climate hasn't changed at all, *_and that is not the case!_* Are there complete m*r*ns on the right who think climate change entirely is a myth? *_Sure. Absolutely._* But generalizing the extremely few cr*zies to the whole party is like saying every leftist wants Trump as*as*inated, because a few unhinged m*r*ns said so on the internet! And that doesn't even count the hypocrites who moan about climate change all the time, but don't want us to put tariffs or trade sanctions on China, which *_guarantees_* that polutiin will be worse because China has almost no regulations and so without incentives to produce things in the West, we only make it in China instead, cheaper, dirtier, and we *_look_* greener but actually aren't! If this is the quality of guest you will use, one who blatantly misrepresents the opposing sides, then I'm not going to be interested in this channel.
The problem with people like this is that they mix the truth with lies. It is not a "populist" party that says "anyone not here isn't a real member of the country/community" it is a party locked in an ideology, who are *zealots* who do that, whether populist or not. This kind of false nonsense is what people need to watch out for. Because they speak some truths and mix in tiny little lies here and there that *sound* good, in order to trick you.
I ran into this during the pandemic. I am a biologist, who has spent 20 years doing research primarily on virus discovery, the human microbiome and human virome. When people asked questions on NextDoor about the vaccine and the pandemic, I tried to use my knowledge and the latest information from my university, the NIH and the CDC to answer questions. I was challenged on the facts by someone who said that their uninformed opinion was just as valid and that it is toxic for anyone to claim that their opinion carries more weight - or that their "facts" are more correct. Giving our best current scientific understanding was reduced to just an opinion and disagreeing with misinformation was dismissed ad judgmental.
This is an example of post-modernism, which is epistemic nihilism. If you believe in "equity" and "inclusion" then all opinions are equal and must be included.
@@bdnevins explicitly misapprehends post-modernism and substitutes misunderstanding of equity and inclusion as ad populum fallacy. This encapsulates the crisis in democracy at issue here in that people make knowledge claims they can't logically support, assert equal or superior authority based on appeal to popular opinion, and suppress the facts in favor of the opinion of what is asserted to be the popular or dominant opinion. This in itself is the post-modern "regime of truths" where the popular will overpowers other values, including empirical truth, through appeals to "felt truth" (Colbert's truthiness) or "political truth" (e.g. Karl Rove-we make reality now).
I worked in data analytics and data mining for 20 years, mostly in the area of early-stage AI, biometrics and VR, all over the world. Developers and engineers would always get so excited about what they could do with technology to manipulate and monitor human behavior. Some were concerned with how their inventions might be used but many just wanted to create the next big thing. I learned very quickly that "just because you can, doesn't mean you should."
Manipulation is big money, and clearly that's the most important thing. Then again, humanity will always explore all new technologies. When they invented nukes, they just had to test them twice on Japan. Has humanity ever learned without first committing mistakes over and over? Has humanity ever learned any lesson at all?
@@molybdaenmornell123hopp5i am not religious in a classical way, but for feeling of responsibility you need a religious feel. I like your opinion over my thoughts. Thank you
@@jakbak-y6f Sorry I am not religious any more and the reason is that religions like Christianity primes people to groupthink loose critically thinking and be unable to distinguish right from wrong.
@@lindadorman2869 I just watched the documentary Harari referenced, AlphaGo. It's a beautiful film. They don't address the "should we" question much, but the audience is left with the question.
The truth is painful. People dislike pain so much they not only deny painful truth, but they also force others to deny it. Humans are not particularly rational and they are very susceptible to groupthink.
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” ~Isaac Asimov
@@reuvenpolonskiy2544 No because the vote only gets politicians (or parties) elected. It does not validate the ignorant opinion. Of course it gets dangerous when politicians start to weaponize the ignorance of the electorate.
@@jacobjorgenson9285 Fascism does not exist on the left. Stop with the false equivalence of both-sides-ism; it’s intellectually lazy and wholly misleading.
What I really appreciated about this interview was how Jordan just let Mr. Harari talk.....he's a brilliant man and it was great to just let him share his remarkable thoughts.
I lived in Germany during the Hitler years, and recognize what is going on. At this time, I am happy that I can't have many more years, to live during a similar era of politics and the rise of ignorance and stupidity.
@@luxuryseaviewvillas6744 That's the point exactly: Billionaires don't need to work a single day in their life. They inherit capital, they inherit the monopoly of use of the means of production and natural ressources.. This monopoly on means of production allows them to steal surplus value from workers.
@@luxuryseaviewvillas6744if you can’t see us slowly becoming Russia, no one can help you. Thankfully, there are many that see what’s going on. It will not end well for DJT, or those who blindly follow them. The one thing I know about billionaires, is that they all want to be trillionaires.
@@naomihanna7028 If God is all-powerful, he would make sure nobody ever doubted his word. Since he does not enforce this, I don't think he feels too badly. He just sits back and watches the overwhelming stupidity unfold. For example, millions of people believing that Donald Trump was sent by Him.
Many people do read his books watch videos and take his opinions to heart but many are powerless to do anything yet some do and make changes in their lives and social groups.
@@larryking4473 Well, Harari doesn't believe we're powerless. But we'll certainly become that if we don't start developing defenses against AI today. Spending time alone (in boredom) and getting to know ourselves can be difficult, but we have the opportunity every day. Maybe we just don't care?
23:40 The phrase "the King does not have to say that he is King" springs to mind. Also that "confidence is quiet." The more you have to front and brag and shout it from the rooftops, the weaker your position is. If you are who you say you are, it will be self-evident and the account of others will speak for you.
Those concepts existed before television and the WWE. We're in the times of on tap excitement, and information is not exciting. A king, based on this conversation, is the one who shouts the loudest for the longest time, and I think we're all aware who's winning that game. His ability to continue on despite the headwinds of truth are unparalleled. This is his character's super power, and has become such a thing that he's separated his actual self from it and it has become an icon. His followers use their own personal insecurities combined with the mirroring of his suspension of disbelief to contort their existence into something that is really easy to swallow, no matter how absolutely ridiculous his request. He has, with unfortunate success, turned his character into an idol. Our first superstar wrestler president, Donald John Space X Trump.
Journalists **may** care about the truth, **but** the owners of the newspapers care about their political interests, the more so under polarized times. Public Broadcasting is also influenced, for example if the security services of a country tells the public broadcaster in no uncertain terms that some reporting does not lie in the national interest.
As an independent researcher in the field of 19th century literature, I have been deeply disillusioned with the lack of objectivity in academic experts. I find them to be opinionated and irrational, when faced with evidence which challenges their assumptions. So merely having the official credentials is not sufficient in seeking for reliable sources of truth.
The process of having educated but flawed human beings struggling with competing ideas, research and evidence is called science, and it’s the worst system of truth-finding we have except for all the others.
As a researcher of Literature, what is your training in logic, rationality, and the scientific method? Do you have a degree in philosophy, or science? Why should we trust your judgment of someone else's rationality when we have no proof of yours?
@@reuvenpolonskiy2544 Why should we trust people who are not experts and know nothing about what they're talking about? We're not trusting the "expert", we're trusting the scientific method, the process itself. The scientific method is the only method we have of determining truth. All of the experts together, using the scientific method check and verify each other. It's called peer review. Civilization is built upon some degree of trust between people. If there is no trust for anyone we have anarchy and chaos. And trust is not black and white - we can trust to a certain degree and verify. So why should we trust an expert over anyone else?
At 78 years old, this is the best learning (got to be if I'm sharing with kids and grandkids!) Thanks, been a fan since Sapiens but my eyes deteriorated before the next book. Very useful. 🇿🇦 What a time to (still) be alive! ❤
I feel like while he may be smart, he is an ideologue with a naive stance …. and that what the media or government says is truth - which is indeed naive.
@@Splitbrainmusic1 Unconscious zombies like you are bigger problem than this antichrist ..."thinker"...he doesn't even believe in thinking or psyche,let alone free thinking ...you are empty shells which contaminates everything that has soul and you present the danger to the objective reality ...it's scary that you need to be reminded that you are unconscious and dangerous
This guy is evil, don't buy into his unassuming look. I've been watching him for a while and he basically wants to enslave the planet and have a two tiered society
I agree, not everyone is interested in power BUT the small percentage of people who are only interested in power are attracted to professions that enable them to exercise power. You wield a lot more power as a cop than a garbage man or a senator instead of a grocery store manager. Therefore, the professions that enable you to wield power have IMO, a higher rate of those people than other generic jobs. I think that creates a lot of the distrust. People intuitively recognize the problem.
The fundamental issue in the United States today is the intense polarization that occurs whenever one party wins the presidency. Instead of rallying behind the new administration and focusing on what's best for the country, the opposing party often spends the next four years undermining, criticizing, and obstructing, creating a constant cycle of division. This adversarial approach does nothing but deepen the rift between Americans, making it harder to achieve meaningful progress. A true patriot-whether a citizen or politician-should put the country first, even if their preferred candidate or party did not win. Constructive support and cooperation are essential for a healthy democracy. While it’s natural to have disagreements on policy, the constant vilification of the opposing side only serves to pit Americans against each other, rather than uniting them in shared purpose. After all, just because your party lost an election does not mean the other side is your enemy. Treating political opponents as adversaries not only weakens the country from within but also distracts from addressing the real issues that impact people's daily lives. The goal for any elected official should be to serve the nation and its people, not merely the interests of their party. When politicians prioritize party loyalty over the well-being of the country, they betray the very principles of public service. If a party loses an election, its leaders and members should not see it as a time to obstruct and undermine, but as an opportunity to collaborate, provide valuable input, and ensure that the new administration can govern effectively. In doing so, they contribute to making the country stronger, rather than exacerbating division. In a truly functional democracy, the parties may disagree on policies and priorities, but they must share a common vision for the nation's future. Cooperation across party lines is not a sign of weakness; it’s a demonstration of commitment to the greater good. Only when politicians and citizens alike embrace the idea of working together-regardless of who holds power-can we truly make progress and work toward a better future for all Americans.
Agree with you, this is if you can keep a democracy. The issue RIGHT NOW is that US is sleepwalking into a dictatorship, and there will be no democracy. This is an issue. What you described sort of existed before the mass social media - now manipulators, such as billionaires or foreign adversaries (sometimes they are also in cahoots) warp the reality of people to manipulate them. If we do not solve this - the democracy will collapse, or is already collapsing.
@@robertwalters58 what?!? lol he literally was voted into office, he didnt force himself into office. How is he a dictator is millions of people voted him in lol
"Many people desire the truth to be different than what it is." Well said. I hope he goes on to say "Many people look for truth, and really do find it, only within the bounds of what they expect to be true."
Your posting is prophetic. Sept 23, 2016, source, The Week. Omarosa Manigault says, "everyone will soon have to 'bow down to President Trump'. 😮 chilling😮
YEAH ! And Buddhism does NOT need any "godfather" either ! The ingenious trick has been this one: God i n c a r n a t e d I N Buddha ! (thats what we call KENSHO - or enlightenment)
The difficulty with that argument is that most people don't like change and fear it because what has changed is no longer familiar. Granted, what is familiar is not always beneficial and ethical and healthy and intelligent -- but throughout most of our history, we tended to evaluate anything that was unfamiliar as potentially dangerous and unsafe because of all the many risks to our physical survival and welfare which already existed in our environment. We had at least some idea how to deal with whatever was familiar, but not how to deal with whatever was unfamiliar.
1. Campaign finance reform - remove the advantage of overwhelming funding. 2. Term limits - across the board. Congress, Supreme Court, all of it. 3. No Congressional pay raises if the national budget is unbalanced.
I like the idea that Congress should make the median wage of Americans. But, of course, that introduces other problems like increased incentives for corruption and bias toward rich people in office.
@48:00 The element of time being slower works in favor of us also. Ask Stanislav Petrov, the Russian soldier who waited to launch a retaliatory nuclear strike against the U.S. when his radar showed a launch towards Russia that was a false alarm and saved the United States from being wiped off the map on 9/26/83.
Yuval has valid critiques of populism but misses the point that populists capitalize on legitimate problems like wealth inequality and lack of autonomy, they just misdirect anger at scientists and media. Power is absolutely a huge motivation for capitalists and government officials, anyone who doesnt understand that is burying their head in the sand. You cant just dismiss these problems from a technocratic perspective. Acknowledging the nature of the state and capitalism doesn't require one to think that all people are power hungry just that centers of power have a selection bias for power hungry people. So it is certainly irrational to believe that journalists and scientists are all "power hungry demons". But politicians and captains of industry? Its very rational to assume they are, in fact there is loads of data indicating that entrepreneurs and politicians often have sociopathic tendencies. Ignoring that is as unscientific as the conspiracies he loathes. None of these observations require conspiracy theories. He is however correct about the deleterious nature of the erosion of trust in media.
I disagree...Mainstream media is untrustworthy for a reason. It's positive for people to have a healthy negative bias towards propaganda and brainwashing.
The problem however, is demanding trust in media instead of demanding that the media actually be *_trustworthy._* Trust must be earned, and maintained by being worthy of that trust. It is fallacious to critique people of being mistrustful of media when the media has *_objectively_* been *_lying_* to us.
I saw yuval harari first time on bill maher and was immediately captivated by him, his ideas, etc. He makes a lot of sense, instead of a lot of nonsense. Will continue to listen to him!
One of the biggest lies we've been told is that we live in a representative democracy. If this were true, the minimum wage would at the bare minimum keep up with inflation. Instead, it's been stagnant for 15 years. Our "representatives" work for the interests of corporations and billionaires, not the average working person.
I am an existential agnostic retired beauracrat with qualifications in economics, accounting, mathematics, and statistics. Long podcasts often bore me. But this interview is absolutely brilliant. Once again, it demonstrates why we need historians. Those who forget history, and all that. It felt as if I was among kindred spirits.
In the roughly 200,000 years of known human history, Democracy is an outlier that has only sporadically existed in any organized form from time to time. The history of Our Great American Experiment in a representative democracy is only coming on 250 years. It has always been fragile and constantly threatened by those kinds of forces and primitive fearful, hateful instincts that we presently so alarmingly see preparing to take power. Fortunately, modern history shows us that fascistic, authoritarian governments are usually short-lived, and have tended to burn themselves out of existence by inducing the wrath of the rest of the world (the Nazis, Italian Fascists, and Imperial Japan), of their own people (the U.S., France, Ireland, India, etc.), or by being so incompetent and inefficient as to fall under the weight of economic realities (Soviet Union). The pendulum of human history swings slowly but inexorably. We here in America will apparently have to suffer its swing toward authoritarianism for a while, but it will not stop there, and will immediately begin to swing once again towards democracy. The trick is to keep it on that side for as long as we can, all the while knowing that it never stops swinging.
I've just subscribed based on this interview. An outstanding example of applied critical thinking. This should be essential listening for every citizen in the world's democracies, considering the magnitude of the dangers and crises we are facing.
“Truth is only a small subset of information.” Truth is costly, but fiction is cheap. Truth is complicated, but lies and fiction is simple. If we don’t have mechanisms for elevating truth, it will sink to the bottom beneath fiction and easy to tell lies.
The problem is that social constructionists are right regarding people and language-the truth is relative. The "truth" for you is not the same for me. That's not to say there isn't objective reality, but much of what we label "reality" is actually society, culture, and belief systems mapped over objective reality. These things are subjective and depend on human context. Harari is right that great lies often propel society. We see this with religions, myths, and political movements.
was an enlightening take on bureaucracy; it's so often a term used only to mean something awful and corrupt, or pointless and mind-numbing. But it's actually a necessary part of (modern) society.
Free speech and minimal censorship are ESSENTIAL for any form of democratic system to work. If everyone has to think, write, and speak the same thoughts and hold the same ideas in lock-step, you have an illusion of democracy.
Speech is a right, and with all rights comes responsibility. Speech is a tool and must be used correctly. If you use speech to hurt someone is this your right? You think speech is free but it's not, there are costs.
Great conversation. I just found out I'm to be a grandfather in 7 months. What kind of wacky world will she/he live through. Oh I wish for the good old days. Cruising in my big old gas guzzling Ford, having a cigar.
The Seventh Generation takes its name from the Great Law of the Haudenosaunee, the founding document of the Iroquois Confederacy, the oldest living participatory democracy on Earth. It is based on an ancient Iroquois philosophy that: “In our every deliberation, we must consider the impact of our decisions on the next seven generations.”
One of the criteria I use to try to understand when I'm being lied to (NOT the ONLY way) but ONE OF THE WAYS, is the if story I'm being told is PAINFUL...NOT necessarily "the truth"...but a painful story is more likely to be a truth...panaceas never end up being true...
Too many people throw around the term fascist so loosely to the point it dilutes its meaning. They did this with racism and now it’s being done with political structures like fascism and communism smh. We won’t know when the real thing comes because of this very reason.
@@CaptainPieBeardIndeed, but the proliferation is coming from the fact that it is now proven effective as a means to disarm criticism to disempower these words. Putin's militaristic, totalitarian empire building rides on the back of flooding the media with description of Ukrainian citizens as Nazis. Trump refers to Bezos and Zuckerberg, two of the most tooth and claw capitalists in history as 'communists'. A string of Republican representatives call a witch-hunt on child trafficking when they have had multiple earned accusations of sexual assault and sometimes statutory rape of a minor. Trump's rhetoric absolutely has mimicked Fascism. ( However rhetoric is not yet action). In the full knowledge of this his allies deliberately call his opponents Fascists when their rhetoric and actions do not confirm in any way whatsoever to what is understood as fascism but cleaely liberalism. The disempowerment of these words is deliberate and by those in power to gaslight the public.
I mean…yeah, it’s good. Unfortunately, the people who need to hear this will either not hear it, or not have the rationale to hear it and take it to heart.
This "wise" man called you a useless eater , he's part of the WEF warmonger's club, the same billionaire class that wants to form an unelected global government in which you have no rights including the right to vote; obviously you have no idea what you are saying. This man is deceiving everybody.
This "wise" man called you a useless eater , he's part of the WEF warmonger's club, the same billionaire class that wants to form an unelected global government in which you have no rights including the right to vote; obviously you have no idea what you are saying. This man is deceiving everybody.
This "wise" man called you a useless eater , he's part of the WEF warmonger's club, the same billionaire class that wants to form an unelected global government in which you have no rights including the right to vote; obviously you have no idea what you are saying. This man is deceiving everybody.
It's such a pleasure that someone is aware that there's a country like Belarus and how much we are struggling. Harari is brilliant as usual. Thanks for the interview
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@@firefly9838that is objectively wrong. Inflation went higher under biden. Gas prices, groceries, etc. The average income to buy a house went from 70k under trump to 120k under biden. Do some research.
It is not just Trump to consider. How far this country swings in an authoritarian direction also depends on the Congress and the Supreme Court. Whatever comes from such a swing will be to the credit or damnation of those institutions.
Authoritarianism will only worsen in the next few decades. Trump is less of a threat than people make him out to be (evidence is his last term in office). He also has very liberal tendencies in some respects. Still, what led to his political rise is a significant threat to freedom, happening to some degree across the Western world. I think it is driven by bad economics for the many and rapid social change.
A scientist doesn't have to be a "power hungry demon" to distort the truth to get the next funding round from a pharma company. He just needs to want to survive in academia and keep his/her job.
Agreed, as a researcher/scientist I've observed lots of distortion. Finding that grain of truth based on data is not easy. It is something to strive for.
There are checks and committees that must review, Analyze and check the scientific accuracy of the proposal. No company is going to invest billions just because a scientist claims to have a good idea!
@@rideon6140 I agree, however we need to understand why the majority of the middle class are struggling just about everywhere. The answer is simple, and that is the units of exchange we use (money) no longer circulate around the economy, it just gravitates to the wealthy few who own everything from the mines/farms to the retailers. The problem for the wealthy is that at some point there will be no middle class consumers to buy the millions of tons of tat their factories create. Then what?
58:30.00 - 1:06.07 is the most concise and brilliant explanation of the importance of bureaucracy, regulations and restraints on AI. It explains what deregulation, AI and lack of genuine expert opinions can lead to...the fall of mankind.
Yuval is a trans-humanist radical. Read his books, they are modern trash. He wants to shackle us to the ultimate dictatorship: The dictatorship of the machine. Don't be fooled by him or anyone else that is a member of the "cult of progress."
I am proud of Mr HARARI as an Iranian (PERSIAN) Love to invite him to our university of Ferdowsi in Mashhad in Iran after we are liberated from Islamic republic of regime , We always follow and support his great work. Many thanks for providing this opportunity and information it’s very valuable.🙏 Truth always prevail.
😂 this is such a difficult time for those of us with history degrees. Its so hard to see all of this nonsense getting passed around with 0 sources aside from "i heard it from some dude on twitter."
You said it right. Dude, that guy's undergraduate is General Philosophy. I've his read his book, it is a patchwork of different ideas. He didn't even quote them. I don't know why that becomes popular. No training in historiography. He cannot even articulate his philosophy of history.
Illustration of what dictatorship in infancy actually, and historically looks like is bull 💩 ? Don't worry everyone knows trump doesn't have the brains or psychopathy--> to be full fledged iatolla , but the next president might ?
Brilliant discussion...I learned more today from Yuval Noah Harari about why lies prevail, why lies destroy democracy, the threats to democracy and human health and most of all about -AI- its benefits and real danger to humanity...than I have in the past 10 months from the talking heads.
Primary sources are much more valuable to historians than 2nd, 3rd or 4th hand accounts. Same should apply to what is going on today politically. Don’t tell me as an apologist what someone meant to say. Show me what they said.
Yes, but what if what they say does not match what they do? That's what we are dealing with in politics. People say just about anything nowadays and then lie when confronted like they never said it. It's become acceptable in public discourse, which is why there is so much distrust. That sort of thing is down on every level, from Trump to most other politicians of every stripe to the media on various platforms. It's what people do that is of greater consequence.
The Modi government in India has become draconian. Indians are paying taxes as high as in Europe but in return they get pathetic service from the government. India is fast becoming a surveillance state. The biometric of over billion people is used to track, monitor and abuse any dissent. Any Indian who refuses to be tagged with the biometric is denied the fundamental right to earn and invest. 170 million people have been blocked by the government from paying income tax and hence earning money and investing money.
15:50, Mr. Harari, I understand the appeal in your milieu to say something like this about Marx or Marxism, but you can’t seriously believe it’s accurate? Marx thought human nature was creative , not about domination - but he was a realist in terms of politics/geopolitics. He also thought deep aspects of human nature, what he called species being, were still to be discovered. He didn’t believe human nature was infinitely malleable by changing social sisters - which is why he was such a critic of Fourier, Owen, etc
@@T-aka-T They don't care because they don't see the system working for them. That's why there is a rise in populism. Many are voted to tear it all down, whether they realize the costs or not.
“We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.” ✡️-James Paul Warburg, whose family co-founded the Federal Reserve - while speaking before the United States Senate, February 17, 1950
Yuval and his friends call's communism a democracy. He plays word games because communism, he feels, benefits him because he is a filthly wealthly elite. Most people are not filthy wealthly and yuval would like to keep it that way. One world government would help him and his friends get wealthier. That is the only reason he promotes a one world government which is another name for world communism...
Like your little star of David you tossed in there. Dont be a coward. If you are gonna be an antisemite piece of trash, do it with your whole chest. Coward
Yuval is very different from Chomsky. Chomsky is agaisnt democracy and capitalism. He is a fan of Putin's authoritarianism. Yuval is for democracy, for capitalism and against the Russian authoritarian regime.
: I have difficulty believing in a God that would create humanity, then be stupid enough to say one group are his chosen people… Not good public relations…..
@@ihorperec4990 : Yes of course, we know that it would be unfair, yet having said that, if people do invent a being greater than themselves, then that being exists, and functions, and so becomes real, in their realty....?
Yuval has a hole in his brain. When people don't question institutions that's called authoritarianism. The very aspect of being able to question is democratic. If an institution wants trust from the people, then it should have complete transparency.
Worse, he is the master of the inverted narrative. His thought reflects a mirror universe; the ideas he mines and strews about are fools gold, glittering enough to be picked up by the average person, who he knows has never been taught how to think critically nor to recognize deceptive arguments. Harare is odious.
A good 1st step for discovering the truth is admitting to yourself that you don't know the truth and that it's okay to not know the truth. Especially with all the "information" floating around.
Is there such a thing as "the truth?" And if so, is it possible to know it? Harari is right. What we call "truth" depends on our biases, life experiences, society, culture, etc.
There are 3 types of truth. 1) physical truth/reality, 2) group 'reality', and 3) personal truth/reality. Types 2 and 3 include rationalized delusion. Too many 'conversations' are people talking past each other, unaware that they're flipping across these domains.
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Whose fault is it that people don't trust journalists, science, government entities? Because of corruption. The media is full of propaganda and lies. Science is clearly co-opted by who is paying for the research. Heaven forbid real research get done AND published if the results aren't what those who would lose money won't like. Government has become so corrupted by money that we ended up HERE where we are.
Arguing that the people should just ignore all of that and believe whatever the wealthiest and powerful have decided to declare as "truth" is ridiculous. And it isn't happening anymore. So get over it, clean up the corruption, and if the journalists refuse to stop lying they deserve to go out of business.
How about stop chatting about the symptoms? How about talking about the cause of all that mess
How much shit does it take to spoil the soup?
New viewer here, first video ...annnnnd he's lying from the start.
"Climate change denial" is *_not_* denial that the climate is changing.
We *_know_* the climate is changing.
What the argument *_actually_* is, is whether *_we_* are the *_cause_* and/or *_major contributor_* of that change!
We are *_literally and scientifically still coming out of the last ice age!_*
We *_expected_* the climate to change, for the planet to get warmer!
The *_question_* is, yes, the planet got warmer, but is it supposed to be *_this much_* warmer, and *_this fast?_*
Are we *_twenty degrees over, or only two?_* (For example, not actual numbers.)
But *_lying leftists_* always make it sound like the right believes the climate hasn't changed at all, *_and that is not the case!_*
Are there complete m*r*ns on the right who think climate change entirely is a myth? *_Sure. Absolutely._*
But generalizing the extremely few cr*zies to the whole party is like saying every leftist wants Trump as*as*inated, because a few unhinged m*r*ns said so on the internet!
And that doesn't even count the hypocrites who moan about climate change all the time, but don't want us to put tariffs or trade sanctions on China, which *_guarantees_* that polutiin will be worse because China has almost no regulations and so without incentives to produce things in the West, we only make it in China instead, cheaper, dirtier, and we *_look_* greener but actually aren't!
If this is the quality of guest you will use, one who blatantly misrepresents the opposing sides, then I'm not going to be interested in this channel.
The problem with people like this is that they mix the truth with lies.
It is not a "populist" party that says "anyone not here isn't a real member of the country/community" it is a party locked in an ideology, who are *zealots* who do that, whether populist or not.
This kind of false nonsense is what people need to watch out for. Because they speak some truths and mix in tiny little lies here and there that *sound* good, in order to trick you.
I ran into this during the pandemic. I am a biologist, who has spent 20 years doing research primarily on virus discovery, the human microbiome and human virome. When people asked questions on NextDoor about the vaccine and the pandemic, I tried to use my knowledge and the latest information from my university, the NIH and the CDC to answer questions. I was challenged on the facts by someone who said that their uninformed opinion was just as valid and that it is toxic for anyone to claim that their opinion carries more weight - or that their "facts" are more correct. Giving our best current scientific understanding was reduced to just an opinion and disagreeing with misinformation was dismissed ad judgmental.
This is an example of post-modernism, which is epistemic nihilism. If you believe in "equity" and "inclusion" then all opinions are equal and must be included.
@@bdnevins explicitly misapprehends post-modernism and substitutes misunderstanding of equity and inclusion as ad populum fallacy. This encapsulates the crisis in democracy at issue here in that people make knowledge claims they can't logically support, assert equal or superior authority based on appeal to popular opinion, and suppress the facts in favor of the opinion of what is asserted to be the popular or dominant opinion. This in itself is the post-modern "regime of truths" where the popular will overpowers other values, including empirical truth, through appeals to "felt truth" (Colbert's truthiness) or "political truth" (e.g. Karl Rove-we make reality now).
Same here. Almost made me blow my top. Very difficult to deal with.
How do you explain the CDC condoning the protests when a week earlier they were telling us to social distance because you racism is the real pandemic.
@@bdnevins pure bullshit
I worked in data analytics and data mining for 20 years, mostly in the area of early-stage AI, biometrics and VR, all over the world. Developers and engineers would always get so excited about what they could do with technology to manipulate and monitor human behavior. Some were concerned with how their inventions might be used but many just wanted to create the next big thing. I learned very quickly that "just because you can, doesn't mean you should."
Good for you. I hate that drunk excitement in the place of sober responsibility.
Manipulation is big money, and clearly that's the most important thing. Then again, humanity will always explore all new technologies. When they invented nukes, they just had to test them twice on Japan. Has humanity ever learned without first committing mistakes over and over? Has humanity ever learned any lesson at all?
@@molybdaenmornell123hopp5i am not religious in a classical way, but for feeling of responsibility you need a religious feel.
I like your opinion over my thoughts. Thank you
@@jakbak-y6f Sorry I am not religious any more and the reason is that religions like Christianity primes people to groupthink loose critically thinking and be unable to distinguish right from wrong.
@@lindadorman2869 I just watched the documentary Harari referenced, AlphaGo. It's a beautiful film. They don't address the "should we" question much, but the audience is left with the question.
The truth is painful. People dislike pain so much they not only deny painful truth, but they also force others to deny it. Humans are not particularly rational and they are very susceptible to groupthink.
And he is a perfect example of groupthink, free economy bad
The wishes of everybody should count the same. What a bunch of BS.
@@rogerforsythe5310 If I want to be free, I have to respect the freedom of others. It's logical.
@@rogerforsythe5310 So who decides whose wishes count for more?
Statements of a genius
Just saying
In a crowd,,start yelling and run,,watch how many run to
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” ~Isaac Asimov
As long as democracy means one man one vote, then indeed "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
Good quote.
THIS!
@@TimothyCataldo Brilliant quote!
@@reuvenpolonskiy2544 No because the vote only gets politicians (or parties) elected. It does not validate the ignorant opinion. Of course it gets dangerous when politicians start to weaponize the ignorance of the electorate.
Fascism, how does it happen. They first fool the ignorant, and then they silence the opponent.
Works on the left and the right
Seems like Mr. Harari would like to see a lot of people silenced.
The arrogance to call the people who democratically voted for a candidate fools before asking why .
@@jacobjorgenson9285 Fascism does not exist on the left. Stop with the false equivalence of both-sides-ism; it’s intellectually lazy and wholly misleading.
@@mentalwolfgames8454 So why did you vote for a candidate (whoever it was, i am guessing trump).
What I really appreciated about this interview was how Jordan just let Mr. Harari talk.....he's a brilliant man and it was great to just let him share his remarkable thoughts.
I lived in Germany during the Hitler years, and recognize what is going on.
At this time, I am happy that I can't have many more years, to live during a similar era of politics and the rise of ignorance and stupidity.
So you did your part in creating the current political landscape by constantly electing neoliberals.
@@sayuas4293Have some respect, trumpie.
So, you're 95? 😂
Yeah sure you did.
Yes, it the ascent of the non-cultural marxism, another red wave incoming.
Truth is expensive, that explains a lot. Thank you both!
it's free but you can't accept it
@@tuckerbugeater The commenter was expressing his pain through sarcasm there.
Very interesting point I thought!
democracy and billionaires cannot coexist .
you can't have my money. you'll have to work.
@@luxuryseaviewvillas6744
Time for your Belomorkanal break.
@@luxuryseaviewvillas6744 That's the point exactly: Billionaires don't need to work a single day in their life. They inherit capital, they inherit the monopoly of use of the means of production and natural ressources.. This monopoly on means of production allows them to steal surplus value from workers.
@@luxuryseaviewvillas6744if you can’t see us slowly becoming Russia, no one can help you. Thankfully, there are many that see what’s going on. It will not end well for DJT, or those who blindly follow them. The one thing I know about billionaires, is that they all want to be trillionaires.
@@luxuryseaviewvillas6744The ones who don't work and take people's money are the billionaires.
These topics need to be discussed more and more often! It’s quite urgent!
It's gotta be the worst feeling, to have everybody reading your books yet nobody taking your words to heart.
Same do, but we already know. We are not the problem but now we have more words for it.
Exactly how God must feel, when we doubt His Word the Bible
@@naomihanna7028 If God is all-powerful, he would make sure nobody ever doubted his word. Since he does not enforce this, I don't think he feels too badly. He just sits back and watches the overwhelming stupidity unfold. For example, millions of people believing that Donald Trump was sent by Him.
Many people do read his books watch videos and take his opinions to heart but many are powerless to do anything yet some do and make changes in their lives and social groups.
@@larryking4473 Well, Harari doesn't believe we're powerless. But we'll certainly become that if we don't start developing defenses against AI today. Spending time alone (in boredom) and getting to know ourselves can be difficult, but we have the opportunity every day.
Maybe we just don't care?
23:40 The phrase "the King does not have to say that he is King" springs to mind. Also that "confidence is quiet." The more you have to front and brag and shout it from the rooftops, the weaker your position is. If you are who you say you are, it will be self-evident and the account of others will speak for you.
"The loudest one in the room is the weakest one in the room." - Frank Lucas.
Those concepts existed before television and the WWE. We're in the times of on tap excitement, and information is not exciting. A king, based on this conversation, is the one who shouts the loudest for the longest time, and I think we're all aware who's winning that game. His ability to continue on despite the headwinds of truth are unparalleled. This is his character's super power, and has become such a thing that he's separated his actual self from it and it has become an icon. His followers use their own personal insecurities combined with the mirroring of his suspension of disbelief to contort their existence into something that is really easy to swallow, no matter how absolutely ridiculous his request. He has, with unfortunate success, turned his character into an idol. Our first superstar wrestler president, Donald John Space X Trump.
👈WISDOM !!!
@@brandonjenkins593(its embarrassing to me)
Excellent and so very true.
I feel lucky Yuval Noah Harari is present in my lifetime.
He is a gift to humanity.
there are many hararis in the world ....
Journalists **may** care about the truth, **but** the owners of the newspapers care about their political interests, the more so under polarized times. Public Broadcasting is also influenced, for example if the security services of a country tells the public broadcaster in no uncertain terms that some reporting does not lie in the national interest.
As an independent researcher in the field of 19th century literature, I have been deeply disillusioned with the lack of objectivity in academic experts. I find them to be opinionated and irrational, when faced with evidence which challenges their assumptions. So merely having the official credentials is not sufficient in seeking for reliable sources of truth.
The process of having educated but flawed human beings struggling with competing ideas, research and evidence is called science, and it’s the worst system of truth-finding we have except for all the others.
As a researcher of Literature, what is your training in logic, rationality, and the scientific method? Do you have a degree in philosophy, or science? Why should we trust your judgment of someone else's rationality when we have no proof of yours?
@@RichardTScott Why should we trust all those who are called "Experts" by Hrrari?
@@reuvenpolonskiy2544 Why should we trust people who are not experts and know nothing about what they're talking about? We're not trusting the "expert", we're trusting the scientific method, the process itself. The scientific method is the only method we have of determining truth. All of the experts together, using the scientific method check and verify each other. It's called peer review. Civilization is built upon some degree of trust between people. If there is no trust for anyone we have anarchy and chaos. And trust is not black and white - we can trust to a certain degree and verify. So why should we trust an expert over anyone else?
Of course. Humans must be evaluated case by case. Good minds can later break.
I think that one would have to be very naive to believe that AI will be programmed to be benevolent toward humans....this was pretty depressing.
This guy is a snake, I'm just starting to watch but I hope Jordan doesn't buy into his BS
Only the Word of God is Truth. This man is an atheist and an antichrist
At 78 years old, this is the best learning (got to be if I'm sharing with kids and grandkids!) Thanks, been a fan since Sapiens but my eyes deteriorated before the next book. Very useful. 🇿🇦 What a time to (still) be alive! ❤
You can still listen to books with Audible (not an endorsement, just a suggestion.)😉
Use audio books.
I greatly appreciate your optimism - wonderful and refreshing. Thanks.
Yuval Noah Harari is absolutely one of the greatest free thinkers of our time. Such important & relevant insights. Thanks for this conversation.
Give me examples of what make him great.
A joker rather
I feel like while he may be smart, he is an ideologue with a naive stance …. and that what the media or government says is truth - which is indeed naive.
@@Splitbrainmusic1 Unconscious zombies like you are bigger problem than this antichrist ..."thinker"...he doesn't even believe in thinking or psyche,let alone free thinking ...you are empty shells which contaminates everything that has soul and you present the danger to the objective reality ...it's scary that you need to be reminded that you are unconscious and dangerous
Ahahahh
Man I remember how hopeful towards the future we were in late 2000s and early 2010s. Now this. The living will envy the dead
Future is finally looking bright...but not so bright for WEF puppets like Harrari.
It makes me want to join the Amish community.
I was 18 in 2010 and I remember saying regularly then that I envy the dead. It's never changed since then.
I envy myself from Nov 3
@@Soapandwater6 Oh yeah like those heaven will not be persecuted soon enough.
This man. How smart can one be. A real gift to us all.
He is a globalist WEF puppet. Can't believe anyone falls for this BS.
This guy is evil, don't buy into his unassuming look. I've been watching him for a while and he basically wants to enslave the planet and have a two tiered society
A virus by himself who works for Billionaires.
I agree, not everyone is interested in power BUT the small percentage of people who are only interested in power are attracted to professions that enable them to exercise power.
You wield a lot more power as a cop than a garbage man or a senator instead of a grocery store manager.
Therefore, the professions that enable you to wield power have IMO, a higher rate of those people than other generic jobs.
I think that creates a lot of the distrust.
People intuitively recognize the problem.
Yuval is the embodiment of seeking power, he's dangerous. You should look into him more
@@chrisrageNJ Just listening to what he says is enough to see how dangeros he is.
The fundamental issue in the United States today is the intense polarization that occurs whenever one party wins the presidency. Instead of rallying behind the new administration and focusing on what's best for the country, the opposing party often spends the next four years undermining, criticizing, and obstructing, creating a constant cycle of division. This adversarial approach does nothing but deepen the rift between Americans, making it harder to achieve meaningful progress.
A true patriot-whether a citizen or politician-should put the country first, even if their preferred candidate or party did not win. Constructive support and cooperation are essential for a healthy democracy. While it’s natural to have disagreements on policy, the constant vilification of the opposing side only serves to pit Americans against each other, rather than uniting them in shared purpose. After all, just because your party lost an election does not mean the other side is your enemy. Treating political opponents as adversaries not only weakens the country from within but also distracts from addressing the real issues that impact people's daily lives.
The goal for any elected official should be to serve the nation and its people, not merely the interests of their party. When politicians prioritize party loyalty over the well-being of the country, they betray the very principles of public service. If a party loses an election, its leaders and members should not see it as a time to obstruct and undermine, but as an opportunity to collaborate, provide valuable input, and ensure that the new administration can govern effectively. In doing so, they contribute to making the country stronger, rather than exacerbating division.
In a truly functional democracy, the parties may disagree on policies and priorities, but they must share a common vision for the nation's future. Cooperation across party lines is not a sign of weakness; it’s a demonstration of commitment to the greater good. Only when politicians and citizens alike embrace the idea of working together-regardless of who holds power-can we truly make progress and work toward a better future for all Americans.
Agree with you, this is if you can keep a democracy. The issue RIGHT NOW is that US is sleepwalking into a dictatorship, and there will be no democracy. This is an issue. What you described sort of existed before the mass social media - now manipulators, such as billionaires or foreign adversaries (sometimes they are also in cahoots) warp the reality of people to manipulate them. If we do not solve this - the democracy will collapse, or is already collapsing.
@@onlypencil the problem is one side doesn’t have country interest has world interest as main focus. Until they change polarization will continue
@@mumbai3899I would say they have self interest that is enacted on the world at large,
So you are saying we should all get behind the immediate change to a Dictatorship?
@@robertwalters58 what?!? lol he literally was voted into office, he didnt force himself into office. How is he a dictator is millions of people voted him in lol
"Many people desire the truth to be different than what it is." Well said. I hope he goes on to say "Many people look for truth, and really do find it, only within the bounds of what they expect to be true."
Real men do not bow down to dictators
Your posting is prophetic. Sept 23, 2016, source, The Week. Omarosa Manigault says, "everyone will soon have to 'bow down to President Trump'. 😮 chilling😮
Apparently, neither do real women.
but everyone bows down to "influencers" dont they
@@Osoronnophris
Do you bow down to influencers?
@@teresaamanfu7408 I don't
Not collapse, but transformation, a welcome breath of fresh air. We are always changing. Buddhism affirms the only thing we can count on is change.
YEAH ! And Buddhism does NOT need any "godfather" either ! The ingenious trick has been this one: God i n c a r n a t e d I N Buddha ! (thats what we call KENSHO - or enlightenment)
@@AL_THOMAS_777 Energy of the Sun binds us all together as one. We all transform to stay alive. Love it.
The difficulty with that argument is that most people don't like change and fear it because what has changed is no longer familiar. Granted, what is familiar is not always beneficial and ethical and healthy and intelligent -- but throughout most of our history, we tended to evaluate anything that was unfamiliar as potentially dangerous and unsafe because of all the many risks to our physical survival and welfare which already existed in our environment. We had at least some idea how to deal with whatever was familiar, but not how to deal with whatever was unfamiliar.
@@OreadNYC That describes my life very well. I have an off the grid water access cabin in Northern MN to hide in reality.
What happens when they deport millions of people and all our societal problems remain? What group will be their next target? And the next?
It's called scapegoating in Jungian psychology. It is easy to blame the other for my perceived problems.
Thats th easy one, the homeless and the poor. Nextone...
The truth about fascism is that there is never any shortage of enemies.
The Gays
So your solution is bringing all the world population on us land. Will still be US? Good luck with your ideas
This talk is one of the better I’ve heard recently.
1. Campaign finance reform - remove the advantage of overwhelming funding.
2. Term limits - across the board. Congress, Supreme Court, all of it.
3. No Congressional pay raises if the national budget is unbalanced.
I like the idea that Congress should make the median wage of Americans. But, of course, that introduces other problems like increased incentives for corruption and bias toward rich people in office.
@48:00 The element of time being slower works in favor of us also. Ask Stanislav Petrov, the Russian soldier who waited to launch a retaliatory nuclear strike against the U.S. when his radar showed a launch towards Russia that was a false alarm and saved the United States from being wiped off the map on 9/26/83.
Yuval has valid critiques of populism but misses the point that populists capitalize on legitimate problems like wealth inequality and lack of autonomy, they just misdirect anger at scientists and media. Power is absolutely a huge motivation for capitalists and government officials, anyone who doesnt understand that is burying their head in the sand. You cant just dismiss these problems from a technocratic perspective.
Acknowledging the nature of the state and capitalism doesn't require one to think that all people are power hungry just that centers of power have a selection bias for power hungry people. So it is certainly irrational to believe that journalists and scientists are all "power hungry demons". But politicians and captains of industry? Its very rational to assume they are, in fact there is loads of data indicating that entrepreneurs and politicians often have sociopathic tendencies. Ignoring that is as unscientific as the conspiracies he loathes.
None of these observations require conspiracy theories. He is however correct about the deleterious nature of the erosion of trust in media.
I agree with your assessment!
1000 likes, well said.
I disagree...Mainstream media is untrustworthy for a reason. It's positive for people to have a healthy negative bias towards propaganda and brainwashing.
The problem however, is demanding trust in media instead of demanding that the media actually be *_trustworthy._*
Trust must be earned, and maintained by being worthy of that trust.
It is fallacious to critique people of being mistrustful of media when the media has *_objectively_* been *_lying_* to us.
@ hmmm you seem to be just like the media. Journalists write/present what they think people want to hear… kinda like politicans
I saw yuval harari first time on bill maher and was immediately captivated by him, his ideas, etc. He makes a lot of sense, instead of a lot of nonsense. Will continue to listen to him!
Read his books! He wrote Sapiens and a handful of other fantastic books.
already brainwashed ? good for them.
One of the biggest lies we've been told is that we live in a representative democracy. If this were true, the minimum wage would at the bare minimum keep up with inflation. Instead, it's been stagnant for 15 years. Our "representatives" work for the interests of corporations and billionaires, not the average working person.
This man has the ability to get me to the mountain top, giving a chance to view our conditions more broadly that I myself could not reach
you're not a bright person are you?
So you haven’t read the the Tao te Ching?
I am an existential agnostic retired beauracrat with qualifications in economics, accounting, mathematics, and statistics. Long podcasts often bore me. But this interview is absolutely brilliant. Once again, it demonstrates why we need historians. Those who forget history, and all that. It felt as if I was among kindred spirits.
My mother was a pretty good history teacher so I know for fact this man is good. He absolutely uses the right way to best analyze history.
This man is not good, don't just go by this interview. Look into what he really believes
@@chrisrageNJ You are in fact not good in the head dude.
@@chrisrageNJ Just watch woke go down and see history unfolding.
we have to help each other offline to get the same point across. Not just "talk" to others through social media algos.
In the roughly 200,000 years of known human history, Democracy is an outlier that has only sporadically existed in any organized form from time to time.
The history of Our Great American Experiment in a representative democracy is only coming on 250 years. It has always been fragile and constantly threatened by those kinds of forces and primitive fearful, hateful instincts that we presently so alarmingly see preparing to take power.
Fortunately, modern history shows us that fascistic, authoritarian governments are usually short-lived, and have tended to burn themselves out of existence by inducing the wrath of the rest of the world (the Nazis, Italian Fascists, and Imperial Japan), of their own people (the U.S., France, Ireland, India, etc.), or by being so incompetent and inefficient as to fall under the weight of economic realities (Soviet Union).
The pendulum of human history swings slowly but inexorably. We here in America will apparently have to suffer its swing toward authoritarianism for a while, but it will not stop there, and will immediately begin to swing once again towards democracy.
The trick is to keep it on that side for as long as we can, all the while knowing that it never stops swinging.
Thanks!
I've just subscribed based on this interview. An outstanding example of applied critical thinking. This should be essential listening for every citizen in the world's democracies, considering the magnitude of the dangers and crises we are facing.
I would like to thank Jordan Harbinger and Noah Harari most of all, for allowing me to watch this video, and educate myself.
This is probably one of the most important webcasts I have listened to in a long time. And, no, it's not all about dictatorships...
“Truth is only a small subset of information.” Truth is costly, but fiction is cheap. Truth is complicated, but lies and fiction is simple. If we don’t have mechanisms for elevating truth, it will sink to the bottom beneath fiction and easy to tell lies.
The problem is that social constructionists are right regarding people and language-the truth is relative. The "truth" for you is not the same for me. That's not to say there isn't objective reality, but much of what we label "reality" is actually society, culture, and belief systems mapped over objective reality. These things are subjective and depend on human context. Harari is right that great lies often propel society. We see this with religions, myths, and political movements.
was an enlightening take on bureaucracy; it's so often a term used only to mean something awful and corrupt, or pointless and mind-numbing. But it's actually a necessary part of (modern) society.
Yes, but it must be constantly assessed and checked, or it risks being detrimental to progress.
Free speech and minimal censorship are ESSENTIAL for any form of democratic system to work. If everyone has to think, write, and speak the same thoughts and hold the same ideas in lock-step, you have an illusion of democracy.
Free speech without reach doesn't work either
Speech is a right, and with all rights comes responsibility. Speech is a tool and must be used correctly. If you use speech to hurt someone is this your right? You think speech is free but it's not, there are costs.
East Germany was democratic ;-)
If everyone is in lock-step, there is no illusion!
@@williambranch4283I call a cow's droppings a cow pie. Does that make it a dessert?
Great conversation. I just found out I'm to be a grandfather in 7 months. What kind of wacky world will she/he live through. Oh I wish for the good old days. Cruising in my big old gas guzzling Ford, having a cigar.
You can still do those things, enjoy!
The Seventh Generation takes its name from the Great Law of the Haudenosaunee, the founding document of the Iroquois Confederacy, the oldest living participatory democracy on Earth. It is based on an ancient Iroquois philosophy that: “In our every deliberation, we must consider the impact of our decisions on the next seven generations.”
They'll live in the consequences of your hedonistic excesses after you've checked out.
@@cowboyflipflopped lmao very harsh
You helped to create that world
Great conversation!
One of the criteria I use to try to understand when I'm being lied to (NOT the ONLY way) but ONE OF THE WAYS, is the if story I'm being told is PAINFUL...NOT necessarily "the truth"...but a painful story is more likely to be a truth...panaceas never end up being true...
Too many people throw around the term fascist so loosely to the point it dilutes its meaning. They did this with racism and now it’s being done with political structures like fascism and communism smh. We won’t know when the real thing comes because of this very reason.
Exactly.
When everyone is a fascist, no one is a fascist.
@@CaptainPieBeardIndeed, but the proliferation is coming from the fact that it is now proven effective as a means to disarm criticism to disempower these words. Putin's militaristic, totalitarian empire building rides on the back of flooding the media with description of Ukrainian citizens as Nazis.
Trump refers to Bezos and Zuckerberg, two of the most tooth and claw capitalists in history as 'communists'. A string of Republican representatives call a witch-hunt on child trafficking when they have had multiple earned accusations of sexual assault and sometimes statutory rape of a minor.
Trump's rhetoric absolutely has mimicked Fascism. ( However rhetoric is not yet action). In the full knowledge of this his allies deliberately call his opponents Fascists when their rhetoric and actions do not confirm in any way whatsoever to what is understood as fascism but cleaely liberalism.
The disempowerment of these words is deliberate and by those in power to gaslight the public.
I mean…yeah, it’s good.
Unfortunately, the people who need to hear this will either not hear it, or not have the rationale to hear it and take it to heart.
This is one of the best talks I've ever heard
Please listen to this wise man❤
Wisdom of men is foolishness to God. Wisdom of God is foolishness to men.......
This "wise" man called you a useless eater , he's part of the WEF warmonger's club, the same billionaire class that wants to form an unelected global government in which you have no rights including the right to vote; obviously you have no idea what you are saying. This man is deceiving everybody.
This "wise" man called you a useless eater , he's part of the WEF warmonger's club, the same billionaire class that wants to form an unelected global government in which you have no rights including the right to vote; obviously you have no idea what you are saying. This man is deceiving everybody.
This "wise" man called you a useless eater , he's part of the WEF warmonger's club, the same billionaire class that wants to form an unelected global government in which you have no rights including the right to vote; obviously you have no idea what you are saying. This man is deceiving everybody.
Very much appreciated and enjoyed this podcast with Yurval. Thank you
It's such a pleasure that someone is aware that there's a country like Belarus and how much we are struggling. Harari is brilliant as usual. Thanks for the interview
Yuval's clarity on different themes is scary!
Excellent guest, thank you.
Video: "The 5 Basic Laws of Human Stupidity | Carlo M. Cipolla”
ruclips.net/video/OIqd8ABi6YA/видео.html Cipolla is an economist.
His book is titled: "The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity"
Excellent interview.
Subscribed seven minutes in. Intellectual clarity, agree with it or not, is beautiful.
You will have nothing and be happy.
Thanks to orange man
@firefly9838 Thanks to dual citizenship political class peepz. See Obama cabinet.
@@firefly9838 cope
@@firefly9838that is objectively wrong. Inflation went higher under biden. Gas prices, groceries, etc. The average income to buy a house went from 70k under trump to 120k under biden. Do some research.
@@anaxmalakas Inflation happened world wide. False cause fallacy. I mean are you really this silly?
Wow! This guy is explaining amazing, simple but brilliant, problems with keeping a democracy. So interesting.
It is not just Trump to consider. How far this country swings in an authoritarian direction also depends on the Congress and the Supreme Court. Whatever comes from such a swing will be to the credit or damnation of those institutions.
We are probably headed towards a totalitarian Christian Nationalist regime, a dictatorship of the worst sort like Iran.
Authoritarianism will only worsen in the next few decades. Trump is less of a threat than people make him out to be (evidence is his last term in office). He also has very liberal tendencies in some respects. Still, what led to his political rise is a significant threat to freedom, happening to some degree across the Western world. I think it is driven by bad economics for the many and rapid social change.
I admire the clarity of thought of Yuval Noah Harari.
A thought-provoking podcast. Hats off to Mr Jordan from Nepal.
Democracy has also never been so widespread, ever.
Super fantastic interview. Thank you.
A scientist doesn't have to be a "power hungry demon" to distort the truth to get the next funding round from a pharma company. He just needs to want to survive in academia and keep his/her job.
Not every news paper editor needs to be indifferent to genocide, he just needs to fear losing his job due to Zionist pressure
Agreed, as a researcher/scientist I've observed lots of distortion. Finding that grain of truth based on data is not easy. It is something to strive for.
There are checks and committees that must review, Analyze and check the scientific accuracy of the proposal. No company is going to invest billions just because a scientist claims to have a good idea!
What an immense pleasure to listen to Harari’s ideas. He is a genius!
The people that have eroded trust in institutions are not the ones you are worried about.
The question is why populist show up in the first place. It isn't because the democracy is working.
My guess is the seed bed is some kind of crisis: our economic struggles, climate change, the shock of advancing technology. Or maybe all of the above.
@@rideon6140 I agree, however we need to understand why the majority of the middle class are struggling just about everywhere. The answer is simple, and that is the units of exchange we use (money) no longer circulate around the economy, it just gravitates to the wealthy few who own everything from the mines/farms to the retailers. The problem for the wealthy is that at some point there will be no middle class consumers to buy the millions of tons of tat their factories create. Then what?
I mean the Greeks have been discussing fascism and democracy for thousands of years now.
Literally almost as old as written history.
@@danielcallahan7083 democracy is working. People are better off than ever before.
Social media has become the engine of populism.
58:30.00 - 1:06.07 is the most concise and brilliant explanation of the importance of bureaucracy, regulations and restraints on AI. It explains what deregulation, AI and lack of genuine expert opinions can lead to...the fall of mankind.
some people ARE power mad and deeply selfish, and now they're in power.
Sounds like the Obama's in a nut shell .
Wow. This was one of the best discussions I've heard in a while. Thank you very much.
These days the stories we tell ourselves are more 'true' than facts and everybody's opinion is equally valid. What a crazy time to be alive.
Harari is so smart and I love listening to him every single podcast or interview he does!!
Wisdom of men is foolishness to God. Wisdom of God is foolishness to men....... 1 Cor chapter 1
I am a brand new fan. He’s my search history at the moment :)
Yuval is a trans-humanist radical.
Read his books, they are modern trash.
He wants to shackle us to the ultimate dictatorship: The dictatorship of the machine.
Don't be fooled by him or anyone else that is a member of the "cult of progress."
Concerning AI development I'm worried when financial motives are leading development. This will lead to bad things and the profits go to 1% of people.
I am proud of Mr HARARI as an Iranian (PERSIAN) Love to invite him to our university of Ferdowsi in Mashhad in Iran after we are liberated from Islamic republic of regime ,
We always follow and support his great work.
Many thanks for providing this opportunity and information it’s very valuable.🙏
Truth always prevail.
As a first time viewer my only comment is, thank you for satisfying a thirst for knowledge!!
I got a lot out of this. Thank you.
😂 this is such a difficult time for those of us with history degrees. Its so hard to see all of this nonsense getting passed around with 0 sources aside from "i heard it from some dude on twitter."
You said it right. Dude, that guy's undergraduate is General Philosophy. I've his read his book, it is a patchwork of different ideas. He didn't even quote them. I don't know why that becomes popular. No training in historiography. He cannot even articulate his philosophy of history.
This is dialectic speech at it's finest.
Don´t bother with truth, just flood the internet with BS that attracts the most clicks.
They did, we did, now we die.
Illustration of what dictatorship in infancy actually, and historically looks like is bull 💩 ? Don't worry everyone knows trump doesn't have the brains or psychopathy--> to be full fledged iatolla , but the next president might ?
That’s the MAGA strategy
That is what the MAGA GOP and their lying entertainment channels like Fox, Newsmax, etc spread nothing but lies and conspiracy theorists!
@@jacobjorgenson9285 It's not just MAGA. That's what works for every faction online.
Wow, I learned a lot about AI from this! Thank you for the enlightening discussion.
Brilliant discussion...I learned more today from Yuval Noah Harari about why lies prevail, why lies destroy democracy, the threats to democracy and human health and most of all about -AI- its benefits and real danger to humanity...than I have in the past 10 months from the talking heads.
This guy speaks more truth than the last 20 YT vids I've viewed. Listen to him people!
What truth did he speak so far.
Yuval ❤
Primary sources are much more valuable to historians than 2nd, 3rd or 4th hand accounts. Same should apply to what is going on today politically.
Don’t tell me as an apologist what someone meant to say. Show me what they said.
Yes, but what if what they say does not match what they do? That's what we are dealing with in politics. People say just about anything nowadays and then lie when confronted like they never said it. It's become acceptable in public discourse, which is why there is so much distrust. That sort of thing is down on every level, from Trump to most other politicians of every stripe to the media on various platforms. It's what people do that is of greater consequence.
The Modi government in India has become draconian.
Indians are paying taxes as high as in Europe but in return they get pathetic service from the government.
India is fast becoming a surveillance state. The biometric of over billion people is used to track, monitor and abuse any dissent.
Any Indian who refuses to be tagged with the biometric is denied the fundamental right to earn and invest.
170 million people have been blocked by the government from paying income tax and hence earning money and investing money.
Good host, great questions and never tries to upstage his guest
15:50, Mr. Harari, I understand the appeal in your milieu to say something like this about Marx or Marxism, but you can’t seriously believe it’s accurate? Marx thought human nature was creative , not about domination - but he was a realist in terms of politics/geopolitics. He also thought deep aspects of human nature, what he called species being, were still to be discovered. He didn’t believe human nature was infinitely malleable by changing social sisters - which is why he was such a critic of Fourier, Owen, etc
Having done bad things in the past is not bad for politicians, obviously.
Apparently. If you ask voters who fell for a fire hose of lies.
Not anymore.
@@T-aka-T They don't care because they don't see the system working for them. That's why there is a rise in populism. Many are voted to tear it all down, whether they realize the costs or not.
“We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.”
✡️-James Paul Warburg, whose family co-founded the Federal Reserve - while speaking before the United States Senate, February 17, 1950
Thank you for this quote!
Yuval and his friends call's communism a democracy. He plays word games because communism, he feels, benefits him because he is a filthly wealthly elite. Most people are not filthy wealthly and yuval would like to keep it that way. One world government would help him and his friends get wealthier. That is the only reason he promotes a one world government which is another name for world communism...
“Person, woman, man, camera, tv.”
- Donald John Trump, 2018
And, so what?
Like your little star of David you tossed in there. Dont be a coward. If you are gonna be an antisemite piece of trash, do it with your whole chest. Coward
Brilliant,...but damn scary! Everybody should listen to this discussion, and really take note!!
It was wonderful to simply allow him to express his amazing ideas. realy surperb.....
In a way, just in way, Harari is the new Chomsky opening eyes all around the planet.
Chomsky hates democracy, hates the US. That's the opposite of what Yuval says.
So right and yet so wrong.
He's definitely the new Chomsky, in more ways than one.
Yuval is very different from Chomsky. Chomsky is agaisnt democracy and capitalism. He is a fan of Putin's authoritarianism. Yuval is for democracy, for capitalism and against the Russian authoritarian regime.
: I have difficulty believing in a God that would create humanity, then be stupid enough to say one group are his chosen people…
Not good public relations…..
Why blame God? People have free will. And then blame God when things go wrong????😂
Rest easy
There is no God.(s)!
God was invented by early humans because they didn't have chat GPT.
By the way, it would be immoral for God to select "a chosen people" because that would be unfair, unjust and hurtful to other peoples.
@@ears9506 humans have no free will at all
@@ihorperec4990 : Yes of course, we know that it would be unfair, yet having said that, if people do invent a being greater than themselves, then that being exists, and functions, and so becomes real, in their realty....?
Yuval has a hole in his brain. When people don't question institutions that's called authoritarianism. The very aspect of being able to question is democratic. If an institution wants trust from the people, then it should have complete transparency.
Harari is a closet fascist.
Yuval is a trans-humanist radical.
He wants to shackle us to the ultimate dictatorship: The dictatorship of the machine.
a “whole” in his brain, you say.
@erwind917 I must have a hole in my brain to
Worse, he is the master of the inverted narrative. His thought reflects a mirror universe; the ideas he mines and strews about are fools gold, glittering enough to be picked up by the average person, who he knows has never been taught how to think critically nor to recognize deceptive arguments. Harare is odious.
A good 1st step for discovering the truth is admitting to yourself that you don't know the truth and that it's okay to not know the truth. Especially with all the "information" floating around.
Is there such a thing as "the truth?" And if so, is it possible to know it? Harari is right. What we call "truth" depends on our biases, life experiences, society, culture, etc.
Very interesting; thank you.
'Nexus' by Professor YNH added to my Reading List.
There are 3 types of truth. 1) physical truth/reality, 2) group 'reality', and 3) personal truth/reality. Types 2 and 3 include rationalized delusion. Too many 'conversations' are people talking past each other, unaware that they're flipping across these domains.
Hannity and Koppel had a conversation.
Only that first category is the actual truth though, surely?
@@SandyCat39I agree. However, a 2-year-old imagining a fantasy world with her dolls is in type 3, until they (hopefully) grow out of it.
@@ObserverOne6727 Quantum physics and neuroscience disagree with you. You clearly don't understand that we live in the 21st century lol
@@midlspaheYou clearly don't understand what I understand 😅