Yes the Khk joke was purposeful. I research on Wiki.gg but use Fandom for screenshots cause it's more visually appealing. You can literally hear me saying "four coins". Whoever vandalized Khk to give it that many coins is like my new favorite person lmao.
Also, begone Floofcliff. There's Peak coming to town with: * Uptie stories pre and post Canto VI * Special Statuses and dialogue in Canto VI * A special Fight End against himself in Canto VI Simply put: Speak of the Devil, and Carmen will appear
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You can tell what kind of person allergyjelly is by how only a specific one of the current two replies here (not including me) are hearted. Said kind of person being a truly brainrotted pm gooner
Fun fact! The original Gossipium used to unstagger both enemies and Allies, so I was less of a bleed ego gift but more of a "what if I just gave up the stagger mechanic"
@@armagedom110games2 It's pretty good NOW, in the current DLC of TBoI. Before Repentance enormously increased the fire rate cap and removed the awful "special item" system in favor of giving items weight and quality, Soy Milk would dumpster your chances of getting the other, significantly more consistent run-winner special items just by seeing it AND had the potential to be a net DPS downgrade if you were already close to the fire rate cap. I still usually took it, but I like living dangerously. Also it had its knockback "nerfed" in REP, which is actually a buff because it makes you hit with more Soy Milk "tears".
@@alexanderkosten7611 Ok, I never played other versions of TBoI, so I dont quite understand it entirely, but its as if Gossypium was a tier IV ego gift that could ramdonly replace Bloody Mist, am I correct?
@@armagedom110games2 More like if it made anything that could normally give tier 3s or 4s a dramatically increased failure rate just by having SEEN it, even if you refused it. There's a reason everyone hated the old "special item" mechanic, especially since it was only added in Rebirth - it didn't exist in the original Flash version of Isaac and its sole DLC Wrath Of The Lamb, but somehow survived through two of Rebirth's three major DLCs despite pretty much just serving to make runs more boring. It at least sort of made sense in base Rebirth because some of the special items like Mom's Knife (notorious for completely overriding almost every other fun shot effect in existence) didn't interact smoothly with others, but as the synergy system was fleshed out, leaving the system in place made no sense. At least Gossypium in its launch state only lasted a couple seasons! Isaac also has Curse of the Blind, a mechanic where on some floors you can't see items before taking them - this still triggered the special item decrementation. Rerolls and self-item-removal were also much less common in earlier versions of Isaac since it kind of invented, or at least popularized the entire concept of rerolling in modern roguelikes - so if you saw/took an item like Soy Milk and it turned out to be significantly worse for your run than expected, it wasn't very easy to get rid of for something more useful. Two of the final bosses also fire as many times as you've hit them, so dealing lots of very weak hits was the worst way to clear one of the only two ending routes that existed at first. Soy Milk still had its moments even back then, but the downsides were... very pronounced.
You can see it in some of the older screenshots, but Gossypium used to not even give Offense Level Down. I don’t think it was updated to have that effect until MD3.
Old gosypium was good low level, as enemies HO was around 100 But bad high level because of clashes. Now? I dont use it because it messes my bleed team, specially on bosses because of the BLOATED HP pools, is better now to APPLY Bleed while stagger then runthe clashes next turn. Also allow to see if the enemy needs Potency Or count and apply as needed with worrying about clashing
"We arent illiterate!!! We're just stupid!!!!" Holy shit that goes so hard!!! I feel thats the new motto for PM fans now! Also fuck yeah always good seeing you post again! Kino is back in the menu boys!
The funniest thing PM did in mirror of the wuthering was giving the option to turn our backs to the goyssipium and leave, causing it to have an certified "gamer moment" PM truly wuthered our heights this season, it gets a : o dullahan-chan/10 from me
Unironically white gossypium is what makes the bloodfiend trio that much more powerful. It's pretty bad without bloodfiends, but with them it's almost required.
Gossypium is a weird gift. As someone who always preferred teams that hitted the big numbers (aka Charge), it was always just... fine? Back when it was arguably the worst problem that build was that you'd not get much from actually running them in the first place; encounters would just end too quickly. Getting gossypium almost acted as a counterbalance to prevent you from getting too comfortable with that setup. Not run-ending, but a mild thing to pay attention to, it was an item like Curse of the Tower in Isaac; extremely powerful in the right situation, but also prone to self-damaging or being an annoyance.
during the first few months of limbus company, it was absolutely run ending especially before we have today's power levels back then it was at its most annoying, you'd just run into the headless ichthys and cope that this is now unplayable
I unironically love White Gossypium and I cheer any time I get it because of how it slides their offense levels down so you can get more sanity back clashing or Sins for E.G.O.
Even with all the buffs gossypium received the best use for it is to either sell or fuse it at the next rest stop you get to, even when running bleed. Stagger is still beneficial for bleed teams, as it allows for free count buildup on top of damage bonus, or the ability to just direct attack elsewhere in focused fights. If it also added bleed count when it triggered it would be in a better spot to a point where at least bleed teams might actually have a use for it.
I remember seeing a glitch that might be patched out now idk but it basically allowed gossypium to double stagger using it’s reset and tremor gifts that reset stagger levels themselves. So at a time it was actually very powerful on tremor teams and might still be
Has the Erlking convinced you in any way to do anything Solo ? While it wasn't much, I do have fun soloing Castraveti with the Earlking by sending 10 coffins for him to choose out of.
@@wolfy-woo TBF, If i wasnt familiar with PM i would just click the video, see that it talks about some obscure thing (No one plays Limbus company) and id would close the video I dont think this video creator gains anything at all from trying to appeal to people who dont know what PM is
@@Astareia7312 wha We are opposites, and y'know, I actually really enjoy learning about obscure things I otherwise wouldn't. There's an audience for everything, and there's also nothing to _lose_ from targeting your video to the wider gacha audience. ...D-do you even realize how many gacha gamers have been indoctrinated into Project Moon via Limbus already?
Gosh, it feels good and bad starting this game in season 3, SUUUUREEEEE, I missed a shit ton of ego and ids since launch that now cost me way too many boxes to count. Still, overall, the game is in one of the best states it has ever been, and right now, I am happy I didn't play the first mirror dungeons or kromer before the nerfs.
One of my favorite teams to use for fun more than anything was actually tremor bleed. I built it around Tremor-Fracture and both red and white gosy to cause the enemy to stagger just about every turn and help upkeep the bleed count
when i got it for the first time i found it more to be a gateway drug into bleed teams rather than a run ender, i never tried doing one of those until i saw the 20 bleed potency and 4 bleed count self destructing an enemy upon stagger
One note of gossypium at that time: It gave that much count instead of offense level down, which essentially meant it was a free 60ish damage instead of a stagger. Any form of runkilling was because it would cause you to have to take more hard clashes than the damage loss.
As a new player who only started playing last month, I’d always wondered why there was a refuse gift option. Cuz when was there ever a time you needed to refuse a gift?? I can’t believe a single gift is the reason why the seemingly random “refuse gift” option was a thing
>be me, a tremor team on MDH. >fused the 3 tremor break = stagger gift. >Risky encounter gifted WG >unable to refuse. >no shop in sight. >floor_boss.jpg stood menacingly
ooohhhhhh so THIS is why people hate it... that makes more sense. I started playing in the second half of season 3 and I've always loved that little sack of shit ego gift. It's nice learning the history of a game i love. Thank you for making this video ^^
as someone who started playing Limbus when To Claim Their Bones had just released (and really only started doing MD after getting hit in the reading comprehension by dongbaek), the idea of just killing one of your sinners for the rest of the run instead of getting a free ego gift is hysterical to me
this has to be better than 90% of videos, i love it when a creator isnt afraid to tell a fanbase they are stupid... also railway just kinda sucks (Im very bad at the game)
it always had one huge benefit most people miss, even in season 1 and outside of bleed. It let's you win rate against peccatula. If there is nothing to clash in a focused encountered, and you click win rate, all your sinners will aim at 1 enemy, and most of their skills are wasted. And peccatula were the encounters you'd take as much as possible, as they are easier and less volatile, than humans, while also having like 70% chance to give a random gift you can at least sell or fuse. And while incredibly rare, bloody gossypium, that exists since season 2, together with white, make any team into a bleed team.
Bleed does not trigger when you defend. Counters, evades, guards and even clashable counters like Wild Hunt Heath's (yes, even when its transformed into S3-2) are completely safe to use when the Sinner is bleeding, and can prolong their life if the bleed would be fatal otherwise.
also note: stagger doesn't simply make you deal double damage. It makes every physical damage resistance fatal (x2). So it makes you deal double if they were normally x1, makes you deal even more if they were resistant x0.5, or... absolutely nothing if they were already fatal to a damage type. Meaning defense level down is fundamentally more consistent damage boost that also still allows ID clash win conditionals, allows even tremor to stagger something preventing all of its actions for a turn, then promptly stagger it a second time next turn with the bonus defense level down to boot. The situational potential of the gift is incredibly high. Situational potential sadly does not matter in md, because you run bleed or rupture, get bloody mist or thrill, and then blow everything up with your mind 1 to 3 times per week
I like playing bleed team, (pequod trio, pierre, kurokummo captain gregor and rodion kurokumo). White gossypium is what i like to run early and late cuz you can make more damage just as the video says on 2:30. The issue with White gossypium begins when you're not running a bleed team... But thats just my opinion and personally, i love to mix White gossypium with sticky muck (pequod trio is full pierce lol). I AM A WHITE GOSSYPIUM LOVER!!!!
May I make a humble request for music titles somewhere? Everything else is great, peak levels of quality, but hearing an ear worm and being unable to get it out is the real Time Killing Time.
Literally was watching the Axeiiyl stream where he rated limbus memes with Welvader and ESGOO and like 3 images in a row were of Gregor ID art but it just has the white gossypium png slapped on it somewhere and I bursted out laughing for 3 minutes straight, send help (Gregsypium Supremacy)
Before, I always thought White Gossypium was... fine, like, never going to go out of my way to grab it, but its not horrible... and then I fought kim. and suffered kim for about 2 weeks. and now I comprehend why staggering an opponent, is not important, but at times, *NEEDED*
i started playing like last month and i've been using a bleed team pretty much exclusively i never knew people hated white gosipium, it genuinely carried my first ritornello run when my chars were at level 30, and i always look for it, it's honestly quite a surprise, quite interesting happy to learn about the woes of the past
Isn't it funny, that me, running a Tremor team, whilst watching this video, got a White Gossypium random encounter exactly at 4:00? It heard you... and me, as well.
This flower is single handedly the reason why i almost tore my hair out I got it one fight before i had to fight distorted kim and i forgot to give it up, this was the last fight before the mirror dungeon was done and i spent **two hours** on the fight because i simple could not deal enough damage and when i did the fucking piece of shit gift de-staggered em and when i did beat em **I did it before the servers went on maintanence so i had to do this fight again**
Ok, 4 things (all positive): First, and most importantly, great vid Second, I was getting ready to make a "Wound Clerid + White Gossypium" commment, but I'm glad you addressed it (also, liu teams become bleed teams with just those two ego gifts, lol) Third, though the defense level down is nice for some extra damage, the sheer value of it baseline is very helpful for overcoming some enemy evades with nasty effects (*COUGH!!* Pequod Town) Fourth, you are incredibly based for using footage of Mariachi Sinclair solo Lastly (you can skip this part), I'm personally of the opinion that MD, especially hard, should not be something you can freely winrate through. And mind you, I say this as someone whose weekly MDH run is always Mariachi Sinclair solo, since solo runs are the only way to make MDH challenging to power through at all these days, especially with starlight bonuses. But hey, that's just my mildly masochistic self talking, MDs being a bit easier makes the weekly grind less time-intensive and I'm sure most people would prefer for it to stay 30 minutes rather than an hour and a half
I'm glad you made this video to learn the history of Limbus of Mirror Dungeon. I would like to do solo runs but I wish someone would make a guide on solo runs first.
One of the reasons White gossipiyum is bad is because stagger means you can stack bleed count without worrying about losing potency because count went to 0.
Sup Jelly. You prolly don't remember me but I was the person who talked about downloading Limbus A month ago and now. I can't stop playing ;). Coped a good bit hard bc I grinded through the entire Railway losing to Forgery many times just to miss the three 10 pulls to not get Solemn Yi Sang but I did get Potential Man but Keep up the good content you got a lot to do!
Honestly a mirror dungeon where instead of getting good gifts you just get stuff that weakens you could be kinda fun. Not as a whole MD like this one but as a side option to spice stuff up it might be really fun I think.
Good old times when people malded profusely about WG killing their run and i was in the corner sitting innocently and happily with a status-focus bleed team
The problems rise when you get this OUTSIDE of bleed teams and you don't have the rest stop to upgrade it (if you are somehow planning to use it for the debuffs), the unstagger and offense/defense debuffs are meant to be used as a means for you to clash AND use the bleed you inflicted on the enemy after staggering them but there's one problem, bleed team on MDs have inherently 10 Damage Ups on a fusion gift aka Bloody Mist so most of the time you just kill them before you get to clash them again for this "gift" to work...
I got a sinking team identities, mostly from the wuthering something something (canto 6) I had fun basically anywhere, except when I encountered that Bamboo-Hatted Kim. Speaking of him, I also got a Poise-Bleed team with his faction ids.
At least it can be used as a scrap for a T3/T4 craft, depending on another two gifts But I do it almost instantly when I get to any shop/crafting table, this is how much PTSD it gave me
Stagger isn't vital to win. The bleed team has some of the stronger clashers and bleed requires clashes to work. White Gossypium has a gimmick, but it works.
Its still hilarious you can still get it sometimes if you fail the 90% chance to fusion the ego gift you want. Its infuriating when its right before a boss.
5:30 The new Limbus Company wiki (.gg for reference) actually has an insanely large amount of good and thoroughly-researched information, including the answer to this question! NO, Kromer could not in fact be a boss in Mirror of the Beginning, and was only a final floor boss of Mirror of Mirrors (AKA MD2) Hard Mode. For reference MD1's entire boss pool was 3-18 Guido, all 3 Canto 1 dungeon abnos, Get Beat Hurtily and Clippity Cloppity (aka Get Pink Shoesily), Slithering and Everything There Inquisitors, Four-Legged Beast and crew, Headless Icthys, and Alleyway Watchdog. At the time Clapfish was considered the worst possible boss pull, because it was genuinely a tough fight at the time. Gods, the difference 18 months can make...
Now the worst one is either Ardor Blossom Moth or Siltcurrent (in terms of abnos at least). Yes you can get something like Sign of Roses but never as a final boss
tremor doesn't even need to stagger enemies in order to deal damage anymore, so they can make use of the ego gift too. i'll still sell it at the earliest convenience just because i use the money to stack whathever dumb idea i have.
I got gossypium on a burn run and forgot to sell/fuse it before fighting the floor 5 boss (Pequod Trio), which ended up losing me the run since it broke the fight mechanics
If you get the wound clerid (bleed bettle) to ++ burn becomes bleed. Although I don't like it, if you constantly try to craft a lvl 4 burn gift you should get glimpse every run and one turn any fight without a multi-phase gimmick.
Also those comments at the end about how we’re just stupid and all that shit …I wholeheartedly agree. Mirror dungeons need more spice, but only the *right* kind of spice. And I think stuff like gossypium does that. Things like the Canto II gifts are also a good example.
For me, the only reason I would accept gossypium is so that I can use it as fuel for E.G.O gift fusions, so the game becomes an endurance test of how long I can retain my sanity fighting with that flower that I hate until the next rest stop.
5:23 If I remember correctly kromer in MD doesnt have the bleed passive. its only on the canto mode, maybe its different but I still remembering bringing KK honglu to kromer fight in MD
Bleed is my favourite team comp by FAR, and yet I've been fleeing from this gift like the plague since it came out. I didn't realise it was so good... the curse of being unable to read strikes once again...
I wanted to bring up that with the fastest mirror dungeon team, White Gossypium is actually really beneficial with its key ego component: Clasped Structure. Which gives all blunt skills on Sinner's number 3 through 6 a damage boost proportional to the amount of coins used, but on the condition of only being applied on a Clash win. Additionally, it may be cool for you to look into everybody's favorite ego gift that we forget picking up seconds later: -reusing an ego when you don't have enough sp- Rusty Commemorate Coin
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Yes the Khk joke was purposeful. I research on Wiki.gg but use Fandom for screenshots cause it's more visually appealing. You can literally hear me saying "four coins".
Whoever vandalized Khk to give it that many coins is like my new favorite person lmao.
This is how it feels getting hit by Khk
Khk?
@@bestaround3323 Chicken head guy's least dangerous attack
Also, begone Floofcliff. There's Peak coming to town with:
* Uptie stories pre and post Canto VI
* Special Statuses and dialogue in Canto VI
* A special Fight End against himself in Canto VI
Simply put: Speak of the Devil, and Carmen will appear
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I love how Heathcliff's observation log on the Gossypium boss is him complaining about how useless its "gift" is
Pretty funny.
It’s like the developers knew.
I went to read them and found Don’s chicken escapade. Who new that raw chicken could be so tasty?
@@igneousorgan6435 considering the new information about Don
that suddenly starts making more sense
i like how even the ending foreshadowing is obsolete because of how absolutely insane solemn lament gregor ended up being
*DING DING DING DING DING*
@@Robocrab-td8dr Get gregnant get gregnant get gregnant
You can tell what kind of person allergyjelly is by how only a specific one of the current two replies here (not including me) are hearted.
Said kind of person being a truly brainrotted pm gooner
*DING* _DING_ *DING* _DING_
_That faith is just a hollow wish isn’t it?_
you simply cannot fathom the depths of my hatred for that flower...
its peak sorry
Fathom? Like in the Time ripper's fathom?????
This feels like a quote you would get before picking an abno in Lobotomy Corporation.
@@marekadams6956 holy shit its acutally does lmao
Is that you Woman Limbus Company!?!
Anyways, gossypium’s bleed stacks make me want to claw my eyes out.
Remember that "refuse gift" option was created solely for this.
Fun fact! The original Gossipium used to unstagger both enemies and Allies, so I was less of a bleed ego gift but more of a "what if I just gave up the stagger mechanic"
Wait, did it? I don’t remember that from my s1 runs. Maybe I just didn't get staggered that often...
Damn that will be realy good actually
Mhm. I believe so.
Iirc
The old conditonal was
[Turn Start] Unstagger all units
if i remember the first gossy also give bleed but unstagger enemy.
that was like 2 year ago.
@@hellatze game had a 1,5 year anniversary not a long time ago and here you are with "like 2 year ago" lmao
Every Roguelike needs that one item that can completely ruin your run unless you have a very specific team comp.
I call this the “soy milk effect”
I love those items. Gossy all the way! Soy Milk ahoy!
Soy milk's actually pretty good, though, unlike gosshitium.
@@armagedom110games2 It's pretty good NOW, in the current DLC of TBoI. Before Repentance enormously increased the fire rate cap and removed the awful "special item" system in favor of giving items weight and quality, Soy Milk would dumpster your chances of getting the other, significantly more consistent run-winner special items just by seeing it AND had the potential to be a net DPS downgrade if you were already close to the fire rate cap. I still usually took it, but I like living dangerously. Also it had its knockback "nerfed" in REP, which is actually a buff because it makes you hit with more Soy Milk "tears".
@@alexanderkosten7611
Ok, I never played other versions of TBoI, so I dont quite understand it entirely, but its as if Gossypium was a tier IV ego gift that could ramdonly replace Bloody Mist, am I correct?
@@armagedom110games2 More like if it made anything that could normally give tier 3s or 4s a dramatically increased failure rate just by having SEEN it, even if you refused it. There's a reason everyone hated the old "special item" mechanic, especially since it was only added in Rebirth - it didn't exist in the original Flash version of Isaac and its sole DLC Wrath Of The Lamb, but somehow survived through two of Rebirth's three major DLCs despite pretty much just serving to make runs more boring. It at least sort of made sense in base Rebirth because some of the special items like Mom's Knife (notorious for completely overriding almost every other fun shot effect in existence) didn't interact smoothly with others, but as the synergy system was fleshed out, leaving the system in place made no sense. At least Gossypium in its launch state only lasted a couple seasons! Isaac also has Curse of the Blind, a mechanic where on some floors you can't see items before taking them - this still triggered the special item decrementation. Rerolls and self-item-removal were also much less common in earlier versions of Isaac since it kind of invented, or at least popularized the entire concept of rerolling in modern roguelikes - so if you saw/took an item like Soy Milk and it turned out to be significantly worse for your run than expected, it wasn't very easy to get rid of for something more useful. Two of the final bosses also fire as many times as you've hit them, so dealing lots of very weak hits was the worst way to clear one of the only two ending routes that existed at first. Soy Milk still had its moments even back then, but the downsides were... very pronounced.
You can see it in some of the older screenshots, but Gossypium used to not even give Offense Level Down. I don’t think it was updated to have that effect until MD3.
Honestly, I never knew that it got the level down buff, I avoided it so much I thought it was still just bleed lol
It ALSO did not have a once-per limit. ;) Stagger mechanic gone forever
"We are not illiterate, we are just stupid"
I've never felt more seen in my life
Can't hear you over the Bleed Tremor Hybrid team I'm running.
I see…you mean “THE TREMORING”,eh?
Ah yes Tleedor
Dude i just used that today in mdh and it goes so hard
45 offense power and defense power down on top of all debuffs tremor souls has is nuts
Bleemor, my belover
Current Gossypium is goated. Old gossypium was a nightmare.
old gossypium you cant even sell thoose. cant, refuse cant fuse
Old gosypium was good low level, as enemies HO was around 100
But bad high level because of clashes.
Now? I dont use it because it messes my bleed team, specially on bosses because of the BLOATED HP pools, is better now to APPLY Bleed while stagger then runthe clashes next turn.
Also allow to see if the enemy needs Potency Or count and apply as needed with worrying about clashing
Stagger? I hardly knew her
"We arent illiterate!!! We're just stupid!!!!" Holy shit that goes so hard!!! I feel thats the new motto for PM fans now! Also fuck yeah always good seeing you post again! Kino is back in the menu boys!
Boutta splurge my white gossypium
The funniest thing PM did in mirror of the wuthering was giving the option to turn our backs to the goyssipium and leave, causing it to have an certified "gamer moment"
PM truly wuthered our heights this season, it gets a : o dullahan-chan/10 from me
They don't know the Fandom wiki isn't actually the main wiki...
they do , they put it in as a joke
Where is the main wiki?
@@warnertesla8297wiki gg
@@warnertesla8297Wiki GG
Unironically white gossypium is what makes the bloodfiend trio that much more powerful. It's pretty bad without bloodfiends, but with them it's almost required.
Gossypium is a weird gift. As someone who always preferred teams that hitted the big numbers (aka Charge), it was always just... fine? Back when it was arguably the worst problem that build was that you'd not get much from actually running them in the first place; encounters would just end too quickly. Getting gossypium almost acted as a counterbalance to prevent you from getting too comfortable with that setup.
Not run-ending, but a mild thing to pay attention to, it was an item like Curse of the Tower in Isaac; extremely powerful in the right situation, but also prone to self-damaging or being an annoyance.
same with me its a tier 2 gift so i dont mind using it in non bleed teams for a t3 fusion
during the first few months of limbus company, it was absolutely run ending especially before we have today's power levels
back then it was at its most annoying, you'd just run into the headless ichthys and cope that this is now unplayable
When md2 dropped i'd say it was probably run-ending, there were very few ids that could clash against the late floor enemies without using egos
In my house we respect and appreciate White Gossypium
Sincerely, Ncorp main.
That we do
A vid that encourages reading, unique gameplay, and thinking??? I've already devoted my love to you. Do you want my soul too or something?
Won't say no to more souls to the collection
Oh wowie… I never expected my art to be used as a placeholder for Cap Ishmael. Thanks!
The bloodfiend IDs more recently fixed the item and now it's VERY funny
1:08 - 1:10 Only when an enemy attacks or clashes, not defends
Even on a bleed team I avoid it. When an enemy is staggered, thats the best chance to build up your bleed/bleed count.
1:13 Heathcliff tripped, also good video so far.
your honor he pleads silly
I unironically love White Gossypium and I cheer any time I get it because of how it slides their offense levels down so you can get more sanity back clashing or Sins for E.G.O.
well, now i know why there is an option to refuse ego gift lol.
Honestly your stuff cements you as one of my greats when it comes to limbus content right next to ESGOO. Its genuinely nice and interesting
They dont understand peak.... that's why...
Even with all the buffs gossypium received the best use for it is to either sell or fuse it at the next rest stop you get to, even when running bleed. Stagger is still beneficial for bleed teams, as it allows for free count buildup on top of damage bonus, or the ability to just direct attack elsewhere in focused fights. If it also added bleed count when it triggered it would be in a better spot to a point where at least bleed teams might actually have a use for it.
I remember seeing a glitch that might be patched out now idk but it basically allowed gossypium to double stagger using it’s reset and tremor gifts that reset stagger levels themselves. So at a time it was actually very powerful on tremor teams and might still be
Has the Erlking convinced you in any way to do anything Solo ?
While it wasn't much, I do have fun soloing Castraveti with the Earlking by sending 10 coffins for him to choose out of.
Yes! In the time I was editing this video, I did indeed do an MD4 solo with Erlking. It was super fun :)
The fact that you can sell/merge gifts turns gossy into "can i survive this dogshit until i get to the next rest stop or shop"
Probably better name video as Limbus Company
Because I don’t think anyone in the gacha community actually knows this item existence
Just suggesting
Most emotionally hated item within its respective community among all hated items within their respective community
The purpose is that this video could be enjoyed by people who aren't already Limbus fans, and isn't tryintng to market itself with that restriction
@@wolfy-woo TBF, If i wasnt familiar with PM i would just click the video, see that it talks about some obscure thing (No one plays Limbus company) and id would close the video
I dont think this video creator gains anything at all from trying to appeal to people who dont know what PM is
@@Astareia7312 wha
We are opposites, and y'know, I actually really enjoy learning about obscure things I otherwise wouldn't. There's an audience for everything, and there's also nothing to _lose_ from targeting your video to the wider gacha audience. ...D-do you even realize how many gacha gamers have been indoctrinated into Project Moon via Limbus already?
Lmfao scrub
Gosh, it feels good and bad starting this game in season 3, SUUUUREEEEE, I missed a shit ton of ego and ids since launch that now cost me way too many boxes to count. Still, overall, the game is in one of the best states it has ever been, and right now, I am happy I didn't play the first mirror dungeons or kromer before the nerfs.
wow the line of though and editing skills are so hardocre. I lvoe this Vsauce sorta dialogue with viewer from basic terms to actual rterms
One of my favorite teams to use for fun more than anything was actually tremor bleed. I built it around Tremor-Fracture and both red and white gosy to cause the enemy to stagger just about every turn and help upkeep the bleed count
Watching this while playing
Got gossy during my charge run
Thanks jelly very cool
you seem to be a youtuber with slow uploads but with more content i like
when i got it for the first time i found it more to be a gateway drug into bleed teams rather than a run ender, i never tried doing one of those until i saw the 20 bleed potency and 4 bleed count self destructing an enemy upon stagger
Comically animated, good work as always. Need more tongue and cheek humour like this.
One note of gossypium at that time: It gave that much count instead of offense level down, which essentially meant it was a free 60ish damage instead of a stagger. Any form of runkilling was because it would cause you to have to take more hard clashes than the damage loss.
As a new player who only started playing last month, I’d always wondered why there was a refuse gift option. Cuz when was there ever a time you needed to refuse a gift?? I can’t believe a single gift is the reason why the seemingly random “refuse gift” option was a thing
>be me, a tremor team on MDH.
>fused the 3 tremor break = stagger gift.
>Risky encounter gifted WG
>unable to refuse.
>no shop in sight.
>floor_boss.jpg stood menacingly
ooohhhhhh so THIS is why people hate it... that makes more sense. I started playing in the second half of season 3 and I've always loved that little sack of shit ego gift.
It's nice learning the history of a game i love. Thank you for making this video ^^
I've never played, or even know anything about Limbus Company, but I love these vids!
as someone who started playing Limbus when To Claim Their Bones had just released (and really only started doing MD after getting hit in the reading comprehension by dongbaek), the idea of just killing one of your sinners for the rest of the run instead of getting a free ego gift is hysterical to me
this has to be better than 90% of videos, i love it when a creator isnt afraid to tell a fanbase they are stupid... also railway just kinda sucks (Im very bad at the game)
it always had one huge benefit most people miss, even in season 1 and outside of bleed. It let's you win rate against peccatula. If there is nothing to clash in a focused encountered, and you click win rate, all your sinners will aim at 1 enemy, and most of their skills are wasted. And peccatula were the encounters you'd take as much as possible, as they are easier and less volatile, than humans, while also having like 70% chance to give a random gift you can at least sell or fuse. And while incredibly rare, bloody gossypium, that exists since season 2, together with white, make any team into a bleed team.
babe wake up new allergyjelly vid just dropped
Mmmmmmm
Gimme that Huntcliff video
Glory to the Wild hunt
Bleed does not trigger when you defend. Counters, evades, guards and even clashable counters like Wild Hunt Heath's (yes, even when its transformed into S3-2) are completely safe to use when the Sinner is bleeding, and can prolong their life if the bleed would be fatal otherwise.
28 MINUTES AGO?!??! DAMN the algorythm is being quick to recommend peak now
back at it again on the limbus grind
also note: stagger doesn't simply make you deal double damage. It makes every physical damage resistance fatal (x2). So it makes you deal double if they were normally x1, makes you deal even more if they were resistant x0.5, or... absolutely nothing if they were already fatal to a damage type. Meaning defense level down is fundamentally more consistent damage boost that also still allows ID clash win conditionals, allows even tremor to stagger something preventing all of its actions for a turn, then promptly stagger it a second time next turn with the bonus defense level down to boot. The situational potential of the gift is incredibly high. Situational potential sadly does not matter in md, because you run bleed or rupture, get bloody mist or thrill, and then blow everything up with your mind 1 to 3 times per week
I like playing bleed team, (pequod trio, pierre, kurokummo captain gregor and rodion kurokumo). White gossypium is what i like to run early and late cuz you can make more damage just as the video says on 2:30. The issue with White gossypium begins when you're not running a bleed team... But thats just my opinion and personally, i love to mix White gossypium with sticky muck (pequod trio is full pierce lol). I AM A WHITE GOSSYPIUM LOVER!!!!
May I make a humble request for music titles somewhere? Everything else is great, peak levels of quality, but hearing an ear worm and being unable to get it out is the real Time Killing Time.
@@sevntohno8728 every song is credited in the bottom left corner when it plays! Enjoy listening to peak OSTs :)
Literally was watching the Axeiiyl stream where he rated limbus memes with Welvader and ESGOO and like 3 images in a row were of Gregor ID art but it just has the white gossypium png slapped on it somewhere and I bursted out laughing for 3 minutes straight, send help
(Gregsypium Supremacy)
Before, I always thought White Gossypium was... fine, like, never going to go out of my way to grab it, but its not horrible... and then I fought kim. and suffered kim for about 2 weeks. and now I comprehend why staggering an opponent, is not important, but at times, *NEEDED*
i started playing like last month and i've been using a bleed team pretty much exclusively
i never knew people hated white gosipium, it genuinely carried my first ritornello run when my chars were at level 30, and i always look for it, it's honestly quite a surprise, quite interesting
happy to learn about the woes of the past
Isn't it funny, that me, running a Tremor team, whilst watching this video, got a White Gossypium random encounter exactly at 4:00?
It heard you... and me, as well.
Watching this as I do a bleed MR run. I enjoy your content very much.
cant believe i just spent 15 minutes watching a video about white gossypium i love bleed
This flower is single handedly the reason why i almost tore my hair out
I got it one fight before i had to fight distorted kim and i forgot to give it up, this was the last fight before the mirror dungeon was done and i spent **two hours** on the fight because i simple could not deal enough damage and when i did the fucking piece of shit gift de-staggered em and when i did beat em **I did it before the servers went on maintanence so i had to do this fight again**
Ok, 4 things (all positive):
First, and most importantly, great vid
Second, I was getting ready to make a "Wound Clerid + White Gossypium" commment, but I'm glad you addressed it (also, liu teams become bleed teams with just those two ego gifts, lol)
Third, though the defense level down is nice for some extra damage, the sheer value of it baseline is very helpful for overcoming some enemy evades with nasty effects (*COUGH!!* Pequod Town)
Fourth, you are incredibly based for using footage of Mariachi Sinclair solo
Lastly (you can skip this part), I'm personally of the opinion that MD, especially hard, should not be something you can freely winrate through. And mind you, I say this as someone whose weekly MDH run is always Mariachi Sinclair solo, since solo runs are the only way to make MDH challenging to power through at all these days, especially with starlight bonuses. But hey, that's just my mildly masochistic self talking, MDs being a bit easier makes the weekly grind less time-intensive and I'm sure most people would prefer for it to stay 30 minutes rather than an hour and a half
I'm glad you made this video to learn the history of Limbus of Mirror Dungeon. I would like to do solo runs but I wish someone would make a guide on solo runs first.
some of yall never had to sloth through the torture that is having white gossypium in md2h
not enough people play limbus for that to be a most hated item in the entirety of gacha gaming
One of the reasons White gossipiyum is bad is because stagger means you can stack bleed count without worrying about losing potency because count went to 0.
i sometimes get gossypium on my tremor team and its HELL
my main gimmick gets disabled...
Psst... PM doesn't want you to know this, but gossy on tremor can actually be pretty funny
ruclips.net/video/I-Ktc_erqoM/видео.html
The tax don, frog and everlasting in question :
Sup Jelly. You prolly don't remember me but I was the person who talked about downloading Limbus A month ago and now. I can't stop playing ;). Coped a good bit hard bc I grinded through the entire Railway losing to Forgery many times just to miss the three 10 pulls to not get Solemn Yi Sang but I did get Potential Man but Keep up the good content you got a lot to do!
The rot hath spread
This has inspired me to finish my own essay on how to make mirror dungeons fun by making the ego gifts wackier. Thank you 🙏
Billions Must Bleed
Honestly a mirror dungeon where instead of getting good gifts you just get stuff that weakens you could be kinda fun. Not as a whole MD like this one but as a side option to spice stuff up it might be really fun I think.
Good old times when people malded profusely about WG killing their run and i was in the corner sitting innocently and happily with a status-focus bleed team
Truly a blooming experience!!
2:52 i forgot about fandom wiki and was incredibly confused for a moment because what???
Sorry but that happens to be my favorite ego gift.
The problems rise when you get this OUTSIDE of bleed teams and you don't have the rest stop to upgrade it (if you are somehow planning to use it for the debuffs), the unstagger and offense/defense debuffs are meant to be used as a means for you to clash AND use the bleed you inflicted on the enemy after staggering them but there's one problem, bleed team on MDs have inherently 10 Damage Ups on a fusion gift aka Bloody Mist so most of the time you just kill them before you get to clash them again for this "gift" to work...
I got a sinking team identities, mostly from the wuthering something something (canto 6) I had fun basically anywhere, except when I encountered that Bamboo-Hatted Kim.
Speaking of him, I also got a Poise-Bleed team with his faction ids.
No farm watch video, maybe next time
Oh wait no, she’s doing wild hunt next, maybe next time
At least it can be used as a scrap for a T3/T4 craft, depending on another two gifts
But I do it almost instantly when I get to any shop/crafting table, this is how much PTSD it gave me
Stagger isn't vital to win. The bleed team has some of the stronger clashers and bleed requires clashes to work. White Gossypium has a gimmick, but it works.
red stained gossypium is what white gossypoum couldve become
Bleed is so fun in mirror dungeon. See the boss's hp melt when it uses attacks with 4 coins each while it has 99 potency and 15 count bleed.
Its still hilarious you can still get it sometimes if you fail the 90% chance to fusion the ego gift you want. Its infuriating when its right before a boss.
She became Kromer, Erkling, and Ishmael in one video. Impressive
I only started playing during s4 so videos like this feel like history lessons in the best way possible
5:30 The new Limbus Company wiki (.gg for reference) actually has an insanely large amount of good and thoroughly-researched information, including the answer to this question! NO, Kromer could not in fact be a boss in Mirror of the Beginning, and was only a final floor boss of Mirror of Mirrors (AKA MD2) Hard Mode.
For reference MD1's entire boss pool was 3-18 Guido, all 3 Canto 1 dungeon abnos, Get Beat Hurtily and Clippity Cloppity (aka Get Pink Shoesily), Slithering and Everything There Inquisitors, Four-Legged Beast and crew, Headless Icthys, and Alleyway Watchdog. At the time Clapfish was considered the worst possible boss pull, because it was genuinely a tough fight at the time.
Gods, the difference 18 months can make...
Now the worst one is either Ardor Blossom Moth or Siltcurrent (in terms of abnos at least). Yes you can get something like Sign of Roses but never as a final boss
tremor doesn't even need to stagger enemies in order to deal damage anymore, so they can make use of the ego gift too.
i'll still sell it at the earliest convenience just because i use the money to stack whathever dumb idea i have.
laughing at the khk coin joke what a devil skill
You spin me araund baby araund
I got gossypium on a burn run and forgot to sell/fuse it before fighting the floor 5 boss (Pequod Trio), which ended up losing me the run since it broke the fight mechanics
If you get the wound clerid (bleed bettle) to ++ burn becomes bleed. Although I don't like it, if you constantly try to craft a lvl 4 burn gift you should get glimpse every run and one turn any fight without a multi-phase gimmick.
Also those comments at the end about how we’re just stupid and all that shit
…I wholeheartedly agree. Mirror dungeons need more spice, but only the *right* kind of spice. And I think stuff like gossypium does that. Things like the Canto II gifts are also a good example.
The ability to sell gifts and fuse with keyword make me grab all ego gifts possible
For me, the only reason I would accept gossypium is so that I can use it as fuel for E.G.O gift fusions, so the game becomes an endurance test of how long I can retain my sanity fighting with that flower that I hate until the next rest stop.
5:23 If I remember correctly kromer in MD doesnt have the bleed passive. its only on the canto mode, maybe its different but I still remembering bringing KK honglu to kromer fight in MD
Bleed is my favourite team comp by FAR, and yet I've been fleeing from this gift like the plague since it came out. I didn't realise it was so good... the curse of being unable to read strikes once again...
as a new player gossypium is one of my favourite ego gifts to find in the dungeon, I can't believe it was this hated all along
I wanted to bring up that with the fastest mirror dungeon team, White Gossypium is actually really beneficial with its key ego component: Clasped Structure. Which gives all blunt skills on Sinner's number 3 through 6 a damage boost proportional to the amount of coins used, but on the condition of only being applied on a Clash win.
Additionally, it may be cool for you to look into everybody's favorite ego gift that we forget picking up seconds later: -reusing an ego when you don't have enough sp- Rusty Commemorate Coin