This is ex-xactly the video I was desperately looking for. You are an absolute scholar and a gentlemanly one at that! Thank you, this has confirmed for me that this is my laptop.
Much appreciated! I'll be posting another video tonight, showing ideal settings and performance in Starfield, and I'll talk about this in the video, but I noticed something. The G14 can perfectly handle any game you throw at it, but Starfield brings it to its knees thermally. With settings at ultra and at 1600p, the CPU temp stays around the low 80's, even with the tweaks I mentioned in my video, while the GPU is mid-high 70's. Normally, this wouldn't be a problem, but I found that my G14 completely shut down mid-game twice while hovering at these temps. I don't know if it's Starfield-specific, or my particular laptop has a lower safety power off threshold. Note that this was with the optional 280w power supply and simply elevating the laptop. I picked up a used IETS GT300 to test, and with the same settings, am down to the low-mid 70's. I also switched back to the original 240w power supply, because the laptop wasn't exactly drawing additional power for the GPU with the extra space. Running the game at medium settings has the laptop as cool as a cucumber, around the mid 60's. So far, this is the only game that has caused such wild swings in temps depending on the graphics settings. I can't confirm if the different psu was the cause of my shutdowns, but I suspect that was the issue. I'm curious if any other G14 owners experienced similar issues with the game, but the radio silence on reddit leads me to believe it was my stupidity in buying a different psu.
I really appreciate your insight on this video. Man, please keep making more vids about it. In your opinion, would you rather the M16 4080 with the miniled or the G14 4090 with the miniled?
"because im a broken shell of the man i once was" - you sir are hilarious. i am in Canada, and i can't find the 4090 version at all. I think you have convinced me to go for the 4080. my other option was the lenovo 7i pro 4080. i am leaning towards the G14's portability though...
It really depends on how important portability is to you. The legion is a beast and I adore them, and you’ll get a full 4080 experience with it. That being said, having a slightly underpowered 4080 in a gorgeous little 14” machine? Yes. A thousand times yes.
@@RAIIYNMeh. I don’t say that to disparage the new model or anyone who likes it, because it’s a gorgeous new laptop - all metal, very subtle and business like…and honestly, I think the 4070 limit makes a lot of sense for the form factor - you’re still getting a gpu that nips at a 3080ti while only using 100w. However, I still like the 2023 model more. I like the feel of the magnesium alloy chassis, I love the white gamer vibe, I love the anime matrix, and yeah…I love the underpowered 4080. Because it has extra vram and kicks the poop out of the 4070, even at reduced wattage. Besides, the 8th gen ryzen in the 2024 model is the exact same chip as the 7th, just with more AI crap. It’s ultimately going to be about what you want from a 14” laptop. The 2024 model is definitely sexy and hits a component sweet spot. But I still like the 2023 model because it’s a 14” gaming laptop that walks into a party and proudly says “I’m going to mess some crap up. Hold my beer.”
Not one to usually comment, but so refreshing to watch this video after listening to endless videos of Tech influencers yapping on. Good humour and info :).
Make more videos! You're very natural and easy to listen to. I'm looking at getting a 2023 G14 with the 4080 in the up coming black friday sales for whatever the best price I can find one is. Your video provided a great place to learn how to tweak it for the best. Thanks!
I loved how real this video is on so many perspectives. I also really appreciate you sharing your experience with many other gaming laptops and the issues they face. Thanks for making the video!
@@Lank871 That’s the main reason I did the videos :-) I guess that’s the problem with a laptop that has such a wide variety of options - reviewers either get the more “entry” one with the 4060 or the top of the line with 4090.
This is very helpful thank you. I just picked up my G14 4060 as my first gaming laptop a couple days ago and been looking at a lot of guide videos as someone who isn’t familiar with pc gaming and yours is very comprehensive. I’m assuming these tweaks can apply to my 4060 as well btw
I got the same but I'm worried cuz the heat and the ssd I would like to upgrade it with 990 pro from Sam but I think the controller side will touch the morher board 😢
Being someone who has four different gaming laptops in their house right now, I am severely impressed by the 4060 and 4070. While I obviously love the 4080 in the g14, I do think the 4060 model makes more sense - the 60 and 70 max out at 100w effective, and a 14” thin and light is a great place for that. This is just anecdotal, but both the 4060 in the legion pro 5 and the 4070 in the slim 7i feel like they perform about the same, if not slightly less, than the 4080 g14. My only guess is that a 125w 4080 (usually 115w) leaves a ton of potential on the table. Again, I love the 4080 g14 and have zero regrets. But I am telling you that saving money and grabbing the 4060 version will make you incredibly happy. It’s a very capable gpu.
what tdp does the 4080 model has? because i am thinking of buying the new g16 with rtx 4080 and tdp 115 watt but i dont know if this is good or i better go with the rtx 4070@@ktbpylon
Just got mine, paid £1100 UK on Facebook. Anime version. Compared with my friends M16 Mini led & there isnt that much in it. We only test youtube videos in 4K HDR. But my G14 held its own. Its such a fantastic laptop. I love the portability, fits nicely on my bedside table. Starfield looks incredible on it.
I hardly comment. But for this video I felt it is needed. Thanks very much for this, this is exactly what I was looking for! Definitely a gap in reports/reviews on G14 4080, most focus on 4090. Mine is en route so I'm researching to satisfy the excitement! Also maybe be kinder to yourself :)
I really appreciate the nice comment! I’m going to post a follow up with updated suggestions around wattage settings for each preset. I think I’ve found the sweet spot for silent which gets me around 9 hours while still having a fully functional machine.
What doc are you using? Looks good. Im between the 4070 and the 4080.. but the price difference is pretty high. Although i game, im buying it mainly for work (coding) and video editing (premiere pro, after effects, etc). Im really dont know which one to go for.
I went with the 4080 because I wanted some more horsepower for AAA games (like Starfield). I heard a lot of hate for the 4070 over the past few months, but here’s a little perspective - it’s between a 3070ti and a 3080 at only 100w. And has frame gen. If hardcore gaming isn’t a big priority for you, the 4070 would be awesome.
@@ktbpylonthanks for the quick response. I mean gaming is important, but I'll be using it, 80% of the time for work. However, when I do game, I do want the best experience possible... I see you G14 is on some sort of stand or dock? Which one are you using?
@@capuman Oh sorry, I missed that question initially! It’s just a Razer Chroma laptop stand. I’m a big believer in raising a laptop to let it breathe, and this stand dies a good job of that. The four usb a/c ports help a lot as well. I very recently grabbed a used iets gt300, but it only lowered temps by an extra few degrees, but took up a ton of desk space.
No worries at all! Honestly, I'm not going to sit here and tell you the 4080 isn't worth it...because it absolutely is. I just didn't want you ruling out the 4070 because of the big performance difference. It IS fairly big, but the 4070 on its own at 100w is like a 165w 3080 or 150w 3070ti. Pretty darn good. @@capuman
Love the video. But I ad a question - Should I go for the 4090 version or the 4080. I am kind of not really that motivated to go for 4090 due its 125 W issue - you cant even get the full performance out of it and I feel at that level 4080 is a good option. What do you think?
The 4090 will obviously perform better, but as much as I love the g14, anything over a 4070 is a bit of a waste. The 125w 4080 usually hovers around 110-115, and you leave a LOT of performance on the table considering the cost. Between the 4080 and 4090, I honestly think the 4080 makes more sense.
Absolutely - aside from some performance gains from Nvidia driver updates and a BIOS update, not much has changed. The only thing I haven't tried again is flashing the M16 or Scar VBIOS onto this thing.
I feel like you're the type of guy I could talk to about gaming laptops for hours on end. 😅 Quick question for you, do you know if I could have a powered usbc docking station plugged into the laptop at the same time as the DC power plug? Will it only drop power from the DC plug? I plan on having a USBC docking station setup with this exact model of laptop in the future (Black Friday hopefully) between work and home and having a docking station would fit my needs
Careful what you wish for - I’ve done stuff like this with way too many laptops over the past few years and could write a novel about it all! Currently, I have it plugged in with the ac adapter, and I’m also running a Dell thunderbolt 180w powered dock connected to the left side usb-c port. No issues whatsoever, runs like a dream. What I don’t know is how it handles the same dock when running off of usb-c charging. I think I’ll try that tonight!
@@ktbpylonSounds like that'd work for me! I plan on having a usb4 dock plugged into the left USBC, and to that dock I plan on having peripherals + 2nd external monitor + some nice audio gear all be connected to one single cable. My main 1440p 175hz monitor is gonna be connected to the right side usb-c display port to keep gsync as an option, and then of course the laptop charger. Once I get my laptop I'll definitely come back to this video and implement your recommendations
Aside from using my dock for an external monitor, that is EXACTLY my setup. Left side thunderbolt dock, right side Asus 32" 1440p G-sync monitor. It's ideal, and I think that setup will work perfectly for you. When you're ready, if you have any questions or want to bounce an idea off of me, or even have me test something ahead of time, reach out to me and I'll do what I can. I don't think I'm an expert or anything, but I'll probably do some additional messing around as time goes on! @@Aboudeh7
Had me cracking up the whole video! 😂Glad I am not the only one who makes irrational technology decisions from time to time. Also appreciated the content, I am testing out a variant of the G14 myself, so came looking for your take on the laptop and what you can do with it. Cheers!
Great video! I ended up getting myself a 4080 g14, but i did notice some coil whine when running gpu intensive games. It's hard to hear when the fans are spinning, but if i have it in silent mode, it's noticeable. Wondering if yours has the same or if I should just return it?
I find that coil whine is like a random drawing of straws. Mine, thankfully, doesn’t have any, and if you’re hearing some even on silent and you’re able to return it, I would. I’d still get another one, but you shouldn’t have to put up with it if you don’t have to!
@@samt7603 no worries, my friend. I’ve had laptops with coil whine in the past, and even if it’s a bit during heavy load, it’s distracting to me. Get yourself a unit that doesn’t have it so you can enjoy it stress free :-)
Hey man great video and just subscribed. I'm still debating between this and the Asus Zenbook 14 pro 4070 (still weighing the pros and cons). Can you please send me the links to the vbios upgrade just to have in the backburner in case I get the g14 and need to future proof it in 4 years. Thanks.
That’s a tough one, because the Zenbook is a solid option! Honestly, as much as I love the 4080, I think a 4070 makes more sense in this smaller form factor. For the vbios, I can get you links, but you wouldn’t be able to benefit at all from it. The extra wattage isn’t used, and it messes up what ports can display video.
@@ktbpylon If you could send the vbios links that would be great I already know the risks but I'm a tinkerer so curiosity would kill me. As for deciding between the g14 and Zenbook both have heavy pros and cons with the g14 having better performance and battery life while the Zenbook has a better screen in 120hz Oled, build quality, sd card, touch. The deal breakers on the Zenbook that makes me lean towards getting the g14 is no vrr, the 8gb vram not being future proof and the Canadian version of the Zenbook not having touch. Very sneaky from Asus as the price is the same as the US msrp and you have to look on the specs list in detail to notice it. Still even with the current discounts $2999 on the g14 and $2500 on the zenbook is steep, but both would be nice upgrades on my reliable Legion 5 2060 (115W).
@@todoroki4418 I’ll get those links up at some point today or tomorrow. For what it’s worth, the g14 build quality is incredible, the non-mini-led screen is still over 500 nits and beautiful, and the 8gb vram really only matters at 4k right now, and 1440p in the future. My daughter has a legion pro 5 4060, and she’s running Starfield on all high at 1600p at 45-60 fps.
@@todoroki4418consider the lenovo pro slim 9i too, to me it seems like a better version of the zenbook (mini LED glossy is almost as nice as OLED without burn in)
Thanks for sharing this. I purchase this laptop in mid 2024, the 4080 version is now around 2000usd. The 2024 version cancel SODIMM socket and make the memory capacity limited on 32G, which makes it not that flexible. And this laptop might be the best generation of the G14. Also, asus released a 4070 14 inches zenbook which might be the perfect design of G14. Just get furstrated by the 2024 generation laptops. LOL
I hear ya. The 2024 is a beautiful premium machine, and I do think that form factor is ideal for the 4060 and 4070. And obviously OLED is gorgeous. However, I never had an issue with the 2023 build quality or screen. My humble opinion is that it is far and away the best g14 generation ever.
@@ktbpylon I'm happy with this laptop so far. But got once driver issue and cause the error code 43. Solve by my own, but I feels bad since this happened like 6 hours after opening the box and turn on the laptop. Maybe I have to go their service center and make sure it can still work fine.
@@BelieveInPartyError 43 always worries me. Run an intensive game at max settings like Cyberpunk or Starfield. Do it for extended time, like 30 minutes. Do that a few times. If you keep getting the error, getting for service because the last time I had a 43 error, it was a hardware issue with the gpu :-(
@@ktbpylon Got a new one today, except a relatively worese screen light bleeding, everything is fine this time. I think I would accept it. Error code 43 just shock me at that time. Fortunately, I can work on my new G14 for the performance settings this time!
is there anyway you would be interested in helping me out with my settings. i have the exact same model as you and have been tweeking for weeks and i barely get 80 fps in games like baldurs gate 3. i would be more than happy to pay for your time. thanks so much man
Now that I have it peaking at 79-80 maximum, I'm not at all worried. I have to believe that, after a few years without any heat-related lower screen issues, Asus knows what they're doing with design. I could very well be missing cases, but I haven't seen any people on Reddit or otherwise mention screen damage due to heat exhaust. I mean, it shouldn't work, but it somehow does. It's like wizard magic to me at this point. If I leave CPU boost on, the CPU is hitting low 90's and the top part of the keyboard area right under the screen is untouchable, and so is the air coming out of it, but I still think it's mostly hitting the plastic right under the bottom of the screen, and the air itself cools dramatically the second it leaves the heatsink inside. Currently, with the way I have it set up, it is extremely comfortable, and the heat being generated doesn't worry me nearly as much as before.
another thing is that the top area of the keyboard gets too hot to use with the screen closed, i was worried that the screen would start melting when i had it
@@TVCHLORD I found that disabling boost kept the top relatively cool - it still got hot, but didn’t burn my fingers. I know that it technically can be run in clamshell mode, but I’ve never had a need to. I think it could be okay, if you customize the package wattage and run at a limit of 30-40w combined, but definitely not at full power.
So got this laptop and I'm loving it so far but have noticed when gaming it's not as smooth as my PS5 like for example rocket League shows l'm playing at 165 fps but for some reason it doesn't feel that smooth like feel some micro stuttering is there anything you recommend do?
If you follow my steps in ghelper, you should be doing fine without any stuttering! Can you run hwinfo and see what the temps are during playing? I’ve noticed that all 40 series laptops have insanely high vram temps that hit 110 and throttle - I think hwinfo calls it video memory junction. If those are crazy high, that might be the issue, and I can help you with MSI afterburner to fix that!
@@ktbpylon well I'm not very tech savvy at all so I have no idea how to check temps while playing also I have the 4090 variant not the 4080 like the one you have, another RUclipsr asked me if my laptop is thermal throttling but to be honest I have no idea if it is or not I would really appreciate if you guided me on how to optimize my laptop to have it running smoothly.
That's an interesting question. The only reason I can't definitively answer is because I didn't know G-Helper even existed before getting the 2023 one. 😞 When I had the 2022 G14, I do remember just setting CPU boost on efficient aggressive and never running into throttling or other issues. I think with that model, the key for me was the Ryzencontroller app - I think I limited the tdp to 35 or 45 (I can't remember) using a slider, and that was a real sweet spot for that machine - great FPS, acceptable temps, no loss in performance. What I would say is that I used Legion Toolkit on the slim 7 AMD with the same cpu and gpu as the 2022 G14, and disabling CPU boost had more of an effect on performance with the 6-series ryzen cpu's. I think it's worth installing G-Helper, uninstalling Armoury Crate, and trying all of the tweaks here. Open G-helper and the fan pop up on a second screen, run a game, and monitor/tweak as you go. At the very least, making the fan curve more aggressive will help a lot with temps.
I don't believe they would, to be honest. The 4080, 4090, 4070 and 4060 aren't the problem when it comes to heat - it's the CPU. And since the cpu and chassis is the same across all the 2023 G14's, I'd say everything I've done should be applicable to yours. The only thing I'm not sure of is the impact on game performance. In my case, maybe the 4080 is preventing the drops, where the 4070 might be affected a bit more? You can always make the adjustments and try it out in-game; have g-helper and the fan controls open on a second screen, and change between Disabled and Efficient Aggressive to check FPS vs temps.
I believe so? The cpu is a smidge gimped in the g14, just because of the chassis size. But I typically limit my cpu to 35w because it’s diminishing returns above that in most cases.
@@MouldyTofu I actually have an asus xg17 portable monitor I use, and fps gets up over 100-120. Honestly, the 14” screen feels bigger because it’s 16:10, and it really doesn’t feel much smaller than the 17”.
I don’t think I could ever find enough words to express “YES” properly. The 2024 is great. It’s got a gorgeous body, nice screen, and looks fantastic. By the 2023 also has a very well built body, a gorgeous 500 nit screen, and a 4080. Yes, it’s a lower wattage 4080, but it’s still a 4080 with 12gb of memory. Add to that 9-10hrs battery life… Honestly, you can’t go wrong with either. I just feel like the 2023 is more compelling and has a LOT of awesomeness going for it.
Hay mate. I am searching for a Laptop i wasnt sure wich size or Laptop should i buy... I saw flow x16 and m16 they have battery life Problems... Because mostly Intel... I dont have a seperate monitor or something. There is Like you said offers of a 6800s (g14 - 1800 CHF) or the rtx 4080 with 12 GB grafic ram, 32gb ram, 1TB with mini LED for 3000 CHF. For me is important battery life and no heats and good for gaming. And not to Big! Thats why i always looked for g14
I mean...I'm loving my 4080 G14. I picked up a used Asus 17" portable monitor, thinking I'd want the extra real estate, but I prefer the G14's native screen because it's so bright and sharp. I even use an external keyboard, so the screen is further away from me, and it's been perfect. Ultimately, it will come down to personal preference, so I can only speak from my perspective. When it comes to heat...I mean, both the 6800s and the 4080 model get HOT. I have tweaked mine so it idles in the high 30's/low 40's, and it peaks at 80 degrees during intense gaming, but it still gets warm. The WASD keys on the 4080 are cooler than on the 6800s model for sure. In terms of battery life, I think the mini-LED will get worse battery than the non mini-LED, but I could be wrong there. With my tweaks, I'm getting just over 8 hours of casual RUclips/web browsing. The 4080 (or all of the 40 series G14's) have a couple of advantages, like 16gb soldered (the 6800s version only has 8, so I was running around with 24gb ram and it drove me nuts) and a slightly better webcam. My last comment is that the 4080 in the G14 is obviously faster than the 6800s, but from a purely anecdotal perspective, I don't notice a huge difference between the two in games that I play. I will go to my grave stressing that the 6800s was one of, if not the best laptop GPU of 2022, and it disturbs me that more people aren't talking about it. It is an absolute beast. For you, you'll have to make the decision for yourself. I stick with the 4080 for future proofing (12gb vram) and Frame Generation, but the 4060 gets frame gen as well.
Yeaa its just a huge price difference. Idk if they gonna drop a bit. Its Hard Finding good offers. But its a future invest i think with the 12 GB vram in grafic. Could you send me a link where you buyed the Monitor + Tastatur ? Could Check it out. Do you always need to Run the Laptop open for it when your in the Desktop or can it work closed?
That's a tough one because I bought it used off of Facebook, but the model is the Asus XG17ahpe. There were a ton of others on Amazon, but they don't have the response time of the XG17. One exception, if you can find it - look for a 16" portable monitor with 1600p 165hz (NOT 1440p 120hz). There are some no name manufacturers using the same panel as in the Legion 5 pro/Legion 7 for their portable monitors, and it is a FANTASTIC screen. The keyboard I got is an Asus Azoth, which is a great little keyboard but absolutely NOT worth the insane money I paid for it! You definitely should run this laptop lid open, as the heat in part escapes at the top of the keyboard. I might be wrong on this, but the G14 needs to be open at all times during operation. @@julijanlj.9195
Thank you a Lot 👍 yea i thinked too that it has to be open all time. Is a question if it annoys or not. If you try it let me know the results 😂 would be interesting
I have a big desk, with a main 32" monitor in the middle, my XG17 in portrait mode next to it on one side, and my g14 on a stand on the other side - I actually prefer it open. As for closing the lid, I've been doing some Reddit reading, and have discovered that it would be a bad idea for anything above very light browsing - some of the main heat is evacuated out along the top of the keyboard, and while I think these vents are exposed when the lid is closed, the area along the top next to the power button gets VERY hot under load. I'd rather not risk it! 🙂@@julijanlj.9195
Silly questions - do you have the 2023 g14? Updated to bios 310? There are no advanced settings, really - you click Fans + Power next to turbo to get to all of the undervolting stuff.
@@youplay.nostalgia it might be that the intel cpu is locked down? I know that most 11th gen intel CPU’s were locked in bios so you couldn’t undervolt them - might be similar for you unfortunately :-( Is the fan plus power button greyed out for you? If you can click it and it opens the pop up, can you at least adjust the fan curve?
Yup - sounds like you got hit with the 11th gen Intel lockdown 😞 My only advice is to see if there are previous versions of your bios that allow undervolting, and to see if you can downgrade your BIOS version. I did that when I had an X17 R1 with an i7-11800h. Sorry I can't help more!@@youplay.nostalgia
Wholesome and genuine, thanks buddy. Writing from my G14 3070 Ryzen7 that I am very happy with so far.
This is ex-xactly the video I was desperately looking for. You are an absolute scholar and a gentlemanly one at that! Thank you, this has confirmed for me that this is my laptop.
Much appreciated! I'll be posting another video tonight, showing ideal settings and performance in Starfield, and I'll talk about this in the video, but I noticed something. The G14 can perfectly handle any game you throw at it, but Starfield brings it to its knees thermally.
With settings at ultra and at 1600p, the CPU temp stays around the low 80's, even with the tweaks I mentioned in my video, while the GPU is mid-high 70's. Normally, this wouldn't be a problem, but I found that my G14 completely shut down mid-game twice while hovering at these temps. I don't know if it's Starfield-specific, or my particular laptop has a lower safety power off threshold.
Note that this was with the optional 280w power supply and simply elevating the laptop. I picked up a used IETS GT300 to test, and with the same settings, am down to the low-mid 70's. I also switched back to the original 240w power supply, because the laptop wasn't exactly drawing additional power for the GPU with the extra space.
Running the game at medium settings has the laptop as cool as a cucumber, around the mid 60's. So far, this is the only game that has caused such wild swings in temps depending on the graphics settings.
I can't confirm if the different psu was the cause of my shutdowns, but I suspect that was the issue. I'm curious if any other G14 owners experienced similar issues with the game, but the radio silence on reddit leads me to believe it was my stupidity in buying a different psu.
Please make more videos. Any topic.
I really appreciate your insight on this video. Man, please keep making more vids about it. In your opinion, would you rather the M16 4080 with the miniled or the G14 4090 with the miniled?
"because im a broken shell of the man i once was" - you sir are hilarious. i am in Canada, and i can't find the 4090 version at all. I think you have convinced me to go for the 4080.
my other option was the lenovo 7i pro 4080. i am leaning towards the G14's portability though...
It really depends on how important portability is to you. The legion is a beast and I adore them, and you’ll get a full 4080 experience with it.
That being said, having a slightly underpowered 4080 in a gorgeous little 14” machine? Yes. A thousand times yes.
@@ktbpylon what do you think of the new g14/g16? i still ordered the 2023 g14 4080 for now
@@RAIIYNMeh. I don’t say that to disparage the new model or anyone who likes it, because it’s a gorgeous new laptop - all metal, very subtle and business like…and honestly, I think the 4070 limit makes a lot of sense for the form factor - you’re still getting a gpu that nips at a 3080ti while only using 100w.
However, I still like the 2023 model more. I like the feel of the magnesium alloy chassis, I love the white gamer vibe, I love the anime matrix, and yeah…I love the underpowered 4080. Because it has extra vram and kicks the poop out of the 4070, even at reduced wattage. Besides, the 8th gen ryzen in the 2024 model is the exact same chip as the 7th, just with more AI crap.
It’s ultimately going to be about what you want from a 14” laptop. The 2024 model is definitely sexy and hits a component sweet spot. But I still like the 2023 model because it’s a 14” gaming laptop that walks into a party and proudly says “I’m going to mess some crap up. Hold my beer.”
Not one to usually comment, but so refreshing to watch this video after listening to endless videos of Tech influencers yapping on. Good humour and info :).
I like your self deprecating, doom and gloom humor :)
I enjoyed your humor
I'm glad my pain and stumbling was funny 🤣 Seriously, thank you!
Make more videos! You're very natural and easy to listen to.
I'm looking at getting a 2023 G14 with the 4080 in the up coming black friday sales for whatever the best price I can find one is. Your video provided a great place to learn how to tweak it for the best. Thanks!
I loved how real this video is on so many perspectives. I also really appreciate you sharing your experience with many other gaming laptops and the issues they face. Thanks for making the video!
Appreciate it! I'm old and not cut out for this, but am happy to share for any others in my situation.
@@ktbpylon I was also looking for videos on the 4080 spec and didn’t find many examples, so your tests are really valuable :)
@@Lank871 That’s the main reason I did the videos :-) I guess that’s the problem with a laptop that has such a wide variety of options - reviewers either get the more “entry” one with the 4060 or the top of the line with 4090.
Where did you found the pacman Anime Matrix? Looking to download it and can't find it anywhere. Thanks in advance
This is very helpful thank you. I just picked up my G14 4060 as my first gaming laptop a couple days ago and been looking at a lot of guide videos as someone who isn’t familiar with pc gaming and yours is very comprehensive. I’m assuming these tweaks can apply to my 4060 as well btw
I got the same but I'm worried cuz the heat and the ssd I would like to upgrade it with 990 pro from Sam but I think the controller side will touch the morher board 😢
Very informative, thanks for taking time to share! I am currently grappling with the decision to go for the 4080 over the 4060.
Being someone who has four different gaming laptops in their house right now, I am severely impressed by the 4060 and 4070. While I obviously love the 4080 in the g14, I do think the 4060 model makes more sense - the 60 and 70 max out at 100w effective, and a 14” thin and light is a great place for that. This is just anecdotal, but both the 4060 in the legion pro 5 and the 4070 in the slim 7i feel like they perform about the same, if not slightly less, than the 4080 g14. My only guess is that a 125w 4080 (usually 115w) leaves a ton of potential on the table.
Again, I love the 4080 g14 and have zero regrets. But I am telling you that saving money and grabbing the 4060 version will make you incredibly happy. It’s a very capable gpu.
Haha yeah logically the 4060 makes sense. But the 4080 version also has that mini led screen.@@ktbpylon
what tdp does the 4080 model has? because i am thinking of buying the new g16 with rtx 4080 and tdp 115 watt but i dont know if this is good or i better go with the rtx 4070@@ktbpylon
absolutely love the video!! thanks :)
Just got mine, paid £1100 UK on Facebook. Anime version. Compared with my friends M16 Mini led & there isnt that much in it. We only test youtube videos in 4K HDR. But my G14 held its own. Its such a fantastic laptop. I love the portability, fits nicely on my bedside table. Starfield looks incredible on it.
I hardly comment. But for this video I felt it is needed. Thanks very much for this, this is exactly what I was looking for! Definitely a gap in reports/reviews on G14 4080, most focus on 4090. Mine is en route so I'm researching to satisfy the excitement! Also maybe be kinder to yourself :)
I really appreciate the nice comment! I’m going to post a follow up with updated suggestions around wattage settings for each preset. I think I’ve found the sweet spot for silent which gets me around 9 hours while still having a fully functional machine.
Greetings fellow Canadian, great video, fills the 4080 G14 void for this information. Thanks!
What doc are you using? Looks good. Im between the 4070 and the 4080.. but the price difference is pretty high. Although i game, im buying it mainly for work (coding) and video editing (premiere pro, after effects, etc). Im really dont know which one to go for.
I went with the 4080 because I wanted some more horsepower for AAA games (like Starfield). I heard a lot of hate for the 4070 over the past few months, but here’s a little perspective - it’s between a 3070ti and a 3080 at only 100w. And has frame gen. If hardcore gaming isn’t a big priority for you, the 4070 would be awesome.
@@ktbpylonthanks for the quick response. I mean gaming is important, but I'll be using it, 80% of the time for work. However, when I do game, I do want the best experience possible... I see you G14 is on some sort of stand or dock? Which one are you using?
@@capuman Oh sorry, I missed that question initially! It’s just a Razer Chroma laptop stand. I’m a big believer in raising a laptop to let it breathe, and this stand dies a good job of that. The four usb a/c ports help a lot as well. I very recently grabbed a used iets gt300, but it only lowered temps by an extra few degrees, but took up a ton of desk space.
@@ktbpylon awesome thanks!
No worries at all! Honestly, I'm not going to sit here and tell you the 4080 isn't worth it...because it absolutely is. I just didn't want you ruling out the 4070 because of the big performance difference. It IS fairly big, but the 4070 on its own at 100w is like a 165w 3080 or 150w 3070ti. Pretty darn good. @@capuman
Love the video. But I ad a question - Should I go for the 4090 version or the 4080. I am kind of not really that motivated to go for 4090 due its 125 W issue - you cant even get the full performance out of it and I feel at that level 4080 is a good option. What do you think?
The 4090 will obviously perform better, but as much as I love the g14, anything over a 4070 is a bit of a waste. The 125w 4080 usually hovers around 110-115, and you leave a LOT of performance on the table considering the cost. Between the 4080 and 4090, I honestly think the 4080 makes more sense.
@@ktbpylon thanks so much for the reply ✨ One last question however: will the 12gb vram and 16gb vram difference be noticeable?
Thank you! Picked up a 4090 and ran across this video.
That’s awesome! I hope you enjoy it!
Is this still pretty current for the 2023 4080 g14? I’m about to buy a used one. Thanks!
Absolutely - aside from some performance gains from Nvidia driver updates and a BIOS update, not much has changed. The only thing I haven't tried again is flashing the M16 or Scar VBIOS onto this thing.
"you havnt told me anything ive said 3inches from the mirror"
I feel like you're the type of guy I could talk to about gaming laptops for hours on end. 😅
Quick question for you, do you know if I could have a powered usbc docking station plugged into the laptop at the same time as the DC power plug? Will it only drop power from the DC plug?
I plan on having a USBC docking station setup with this exact model of laptop in the future (Black Friday hopefully) between work and home and having a docking station would fit my needs
Careful what you wish for - I’ve done stuff like this with way too many laptops over the past few years and could write a novel about it all!
Currently, I have it plugged in with the ac adapter, and I’m also running a Dell thunderbolt 180w powered dock connected to the left side usb-c port. No issues whatsoever, runs like a dream.
What I don’t know is how it handles the same dock when running off of usb-c charging. I think I’ll try that tonight!
@@ktbpylonSounds like that'd work for me! I plan on having a usb4 dock plugged into the left USBC, and to that dock I plan on having peripherals + 2nd external monitor + some nice audio gear all be connected to one single cable. My main 1440p 175hz monitor is gonna be connected to the right side usb-c display port to keep gsync as an option, and then of course the laptop charger.
Once I get my laptop I'll definitely come back to this video and implement your recommendations
Aside from using my dock for an external monitor, that is EXACTLY my setup. Left side thunderbolt dock, right side Asus 32" 1440p G-sync monitor. It's ideal, and I think that setup will work perfectly for you.
When you're ready, if you have any questions or want to bounce an idea off of me, or even have me test something ahead of time, reach out to me and I'll do what I can. I don't think I'm an expert or anything, but I'll probably do some additional messing around as time goes on! @@Aboudeh7
Sounds good to me @@ktbpylon
Had me cracking up the whole video! 😂Glad I am not the only one who makes irrational technology decisions from time to time.
Also appreciated the content, I am testing out a variant of the G14 myself, so came looking for your take on the laptop and what you can do with it. Cheers!
Great video! I ended up getting myself a 4080 g14, but i did notice some coil whine when running gpu intensive games. It's hard to hear when the fans are spinning, but if i have it in silent mode, it's noticeable. Wondering if yours has the same or if I should just return it?
I find that coil whine is like a random drawing of straws. Mine, thankfully, doesn’t have any, and if you’re hearing some even on silent and you’re able to return it, I would. I’d still get another one, but you shouldn’t have to put up with it if you don’t have to!
@@ktbpylon ok yeah I guess I'll just return it since it is indeed bothering me. Thanks for the reply!
@@samt7603 no worries, my friend. I’ve had laptops with coil whine in the past, and even if it’s a bit during heavy load, it’s distracting to me. Get yourself a unit that doesn’t have it so you can enjoy it stress free :-)
I actually love coil whine lol
Hey does this laptop run PCVR well? Was waiting to use my quest 3.
Like a friggin dream, my dude 😊
Hey man great video and just subscribed. I'm still debating between this and the Asus Zenbook 14 pro 4070 (still weighing the pros and cons). Can you please send me the links to the vbios upgrade just to have in the backburner in case I get the g14 and need to future proof it in 4 years. Thanks.
That’s a tough one, because the Zenbook is a solid option! Honestly, as much as I love the 4080, I think a 4070 makes more sense in this smaller form factor.
For the vbios, I can get you links, but you wouldn’t be able to benefit at all from it. The extra wattage isn’t used, and it messes up what ports can display video.
@@ktbpylon If you could send the vbios links that would be great I already know the risks but I'm a tinkerer so curiosity would kill me. As for deciding between the g14 and Zenbook both have heavy pros and cons with the g14 having better performance and battery life while the Zenbook has a better screen in 120hz Oled, build quality, sd card, touch. The deal breakers on the Zenbook that makes me lean towards getting the g14 is no vrr, the 8gb vram not being future proof and the Canadian version of the Zenbook not having touch. Very sneaky from Asus as the price is the same as the US msrp and you have to look on the specs list in detail to notice it. Still even with the current discounts $2999 on the g14 and $2500 on the zenbook is steep, but both would be nice upgrades on my reliable Legion 5 2060 (115W).
@@todoroki4418 I’ll get those links up at some point today or tomorrow. For what it’s worth, the g14 build quality is incredible, the non-mini-led screen is still over 500 nits and beautiful, and the 8gb vram really only matters at 4k right now, and 1440p in the future. My daughter has a legion pro 5 4060, and she’s running Starfield on all high at 1600p at 45-60 fps.
@@todoroki4418consider the lenovo pro slim 9i too, to me it seems like a better version of the zenbook (mini LED glossy is almost as nice as OLED without burn in)
Thanks for sharing this. I purchase this laptop in mid 2024, the 4080 version is now around 2000usd. The 2024 version cancel SODIMM socket and make the memory capacity limited on 32G, which makes it not that flexible. And this laptop might be the best generation of the G14.
Also, asus released a 4070 14 inches zenbook which might be the perfect design of G14. Just get furstrated by the 2024 generation laptops. LOL
I hear ya. The 2024 is a beautiful premium machine, and I do think that form factor is ideal for the 4060 and 4070. And obviously OLED is gorgeous.
However, I never had an issue with the 2023 build quality or screen. My humble opinion is that it is far and away the best g14 generation ever.
@@ktbpylon I'm happy with this laptop so far. But got once driver issue and cause the error code 43. Solve by my own, but I feels bad since this happened like 6 hours after opening the box and turn on the laptop.
Maybe I have to go their service center and make sure it can still work fine.
@@BelieveInPartyError 43 always worries me. Run an intensive game at max settings like Cyberpunk or Starfield. Do it for extended time, like 30 minutes. Do that a few times. If you keep getting the error, getting for service because the last time I had a 43 error, it was a hardware issue with the gpu :-(
@@ktbpylon Got a new one today, except a relatively worese screen light bleeding, everything is fine this time. I think I would accept it. Error code 43 just shock me at that time.
Fortunately, I can work on my new G14 for the performance settings this time!
is there anyway you would be interested in helping me out with my settings. i have the exact same model as you and have been tweeking for weeks and i barely get 80 fps in games like baldurs gate 3. i would be more than happy to pay for your time. thanks so much man
Hey, what about the heat being exhausted onto the monitor? Under load, do you feel it gets too hot? Design flaw?
Now that I have it peaking at 79-80 maximum, I'm not at all worried. I have to believe that, after a few years without any heat-related lower screen issues, Asus knows what they're doing with design. I could very well be missing cases, but I haven't seen any people on Reddit or otherwise mention screen damage due to heat exhaust. I mean, it shouldn't work, but it somehow does. It's like wizard magic to me at this point.
If I leave CPU boost on, the CPU is hitting low 90's and the top part of the keyboard area right under the screen is untouchable, and so is the air coming out of it, but I still think it's mostly hitting the plastic right under the bottom of the screen, and the air itself cools dramatically the second it leaves the heatsink inside.
Currently, with the way I have it set up, it is extremely comfortable, and the heat being generated doesn't worry me nearly as much as before.
The design of exhausting towards the screen has not changed since generation 1 , you will be okay
another thing is that the top area of the keyboard gets too hot to use with the screen closed, i was worried that the screen would start melting when i had it
@@TVCHLORD I found that disabling boost kept the top relatively cool - it still got hot, but didn’t burn my fingers. I know that it technically can be run in clamshell mode, but I’ve never had a need to. I think it could be okay, if you customize the package wattage and run at a limit of 30-40w combined, but definitely not at full power.
@@ktbpylon i had the 2022 version and wanted to replace my desktop with it, but the heat made me return it sadly
I just bought this machine. Thanks for the 4080 info. Mind sharing that wallpaper link?
Which wallpaper - the orange/purple desktop one?
The purple/ blue one
So got this laptop and I'm loving it so far but have noticed when gaming it's not as smooth as my PS5 like for example rocket League shows l'm playing at 165 fps but for some reason it doesn't feel that smooth like feel some micro stuttering is there anything you recommend do?
If you follow my steps in ghelper, you should be doing fine without any stuttering! Can you run hwinfo and see what the temps are during playing? I’ve noticed that all 40 series laptops have insanely high vram temps that hit 110 and throttle - I think hwinfo calls it video memory junction. If those are crazy high, that might be the issue, and I can help you with MSI afterburner to fix that!
@@ktbpylon well I'm not very tech savvy at all so I have no idea how to check temps while playing also I have the 4090 variant not the 4080 like the one you have, another RUclipsr asked me if my laptop is thermal throttling but to be honest I have no idea if it is or not I would really appreciate if you guided me on how to optimize my laptop to have it running smoothly.
Would you say that the same tweaks apply to the 2022 version seeing how you owned both machines? Nice video btw
That's an interesting question. The only reason I can't definitively answer is because I didn't know G-Helper even existed before getting the 2023 one. 😞
When I had the 2022 G14, I do remember just setting CPU boost on efficient aggressive and never running into throttling or other issues. I think with that model, the key for me was the Ryzencontroller app - I think I limited the tdp to 35 or 45 (I can't remember) using a slider, and that was a real sweet spot for that machine - great FPS, acceptable temps, no loss in performance.
What I would say is that I used Legion Toolkit on the slim 7 AMD with the same cpu and gpu as the 2022 G14, and disabling CPU boost had more of an effect on performance with the 6-series ryzen cpu's.
I think it's worth installing G-Helper, uninstalling Armoury Crate, and trying all of the tweaks here. Open G-helper and the fan pop up on a second screen, run a game, and monitor/tweak as you go. At the very least, making the fan curve more aggressive will help a lot with temps.
How would the optimizations you have done change for the 4070 variant?
I don't believe they would, to be honest. The 4080, 4090, 4070 and 4060 aren't the problem when it comes to heat - it's the CPU. And since the cpu and chassis is the same across all the 2023 G14's, I'd say everything I've done should be applicable to yours.
The only thing I'm not sure of is the impact on game performance. In my case, maybe the 4080 is preventing the drops, where the 4070 might be affected a bit more? You can always make the adjustments and try it out in-game; have g-helper and the fan controls open on a second screen, and change between Disabled and Efficient Aggressive to check FPS vs temps.
Definitely will try, Thank you.@@ktbpylon
My cpu power limit can only go to 90W on ghelper. I have the same laptop as you. is this normal?
I believe so? The cpu is a smidge gimped in the g14, just because of the chassis size. But I typically limit my cpu to 35w because it’s diminishing returns above that in most cases.
How many FPS do you get while playing Cyberpunk in 1600p, ultra settings with frame generation? :D
Ultra settings, 1600p, frame gen and everything ultra (ray tracing ultra, not psycho) - between 85-100, depending on where I am :-)
Wow that’s pretty good! Have you tried to play any games in 1080p, does it look really bad on 14” 1600p screen?
@@MouldyTofu I actually have an asus xg17 portable monitor I use, and fps gets up over 100-120. Honestly, the 14” screen feels bigger because it’s 16:10, and it really doesn’t feel much smaller than the 17”.
Thank you :) @@ktbpylon
Is the 2023 4080 still worth getting this with the 2024 version out?
I don’t think I could ever find enough words to express “YES” properly. The 2024 is great. It’s got a gorgeous body, nice screen, and looks fantastic.
By the 2023 also has a very well built body, a gorgeous 500 nit screen, and a 4080. Yes, it’s a lower wattage 4080, but it’s still a 4080 with 12gb of memory. Add to that 9-10hrs battery life…
Honestly, you can’t go wrong with either. I just feel like the 2023 is more compelling and has a LOT of awesomeness going for it.
Can't wait for the laptop giveaway 😂...this would cost me a kidney
Hay mate. I am searching for a Laptop i wasnt sure wich size or Laptop should i buy... I saw flow x16 and m16 they have battery life Problems... Because mostly Intel...
I dont have a seperate monitor or something. There is Like you said offers of a 6800s (g14 - 1800 CHF) or the rtx 4080 with 12 GB grafic ram, 32gb ram, 1TB with mini LED for 3000 CHF. For me is important battery life and no heats and good for gaming. And not to Big! Thats why i always looked for g14
I mean...I'm loving my 4080 G14. I picked up a used Asus 17" portable monitor, thinking I'd want the extra real estate, but I prefer the G14's native screen because it's so bright and sharp. I even use an external keyboard, so the screen is further away from me, and it's been perfect. Ultimately, it will come down to personal preference, so I can only speak from my perspective.
When it comes to heat...I mean, both the 6800s and the 4080 model get HOT. I have tweaked mine so it idles in the high 30's/low 40's, and it peaks at 80 degrees during intense gaming, but it still gets warm. The WASD keys on the 4080 are cooler than on the 6800s model for sure.
In terms of battery life, I think the mini-LED will get worse battery than the non mini-LED, but I could be wrong there. With my tweaks, I'm getting just over 8 hours of casual RUclips/web browsing.
The 4080 (or all of the 40 series G14's) have a couple of advantages, like 16gb soldered (the 6800s version only has 8, so I was running around with 24gb ram and it drove me nuts) and a slightly better webcam.
My last comment is that the 4080 in the G14 is obviously faster than the 6800s, but from a purely anecdotal perspective, I don't notice a huge difference between the two in games that I play. I will go to my grave stressing that the 6800s was one of, if not the best laptop GPU of 2022, and it disturbs me that more people aren't talking about it. It is an absolute beast. For you, you'll have to make the decision for yourself. I stick with the 4080 for future proofing (12gb vram) and Frame Generation, but the 4060 gets frame gen as well.
Yeaa its just a huge price difference. Idk if they gonna drop a bit. Its Hard Finding good offers. But its a future invest i think with the 12 GB vram in grafic. Could you send me a link where you buyed the Monitor + Tastatur ? Could Check it out. Do you always need to Run the Laptop open for it when your in the Desktop or can it work closed?
That's a tough one because I bought it used off of Facebook, but the model is the Asus XG17ahpe. There were a ton of others on Amazon, but they don't have the response time of the XG17. One exception, if you can find it - look for a 16" portable monitor with 1600p 165hz (NOT 1440p 120hz). There are some no name manufacturers using the same panel as in the Legion 5 pro/Legion 7 for their portable monitors, and it is a FANTASTIC screen. The keyboard I got is an Asus Azoth, which is a great little keyboard but absolutely NOT worth the insane money I paid for it!
You definitely should run this laptop lid open, as the heat in part escapes at the top of the keyboard. I might be wrong on this, but the G14 needs to be open at all times during operation. @@julijanlj.9195
Thank you a Lot 👍 yea i thinked too that it has to be open all time. Is a question if it annoys or not. If you try it let me know the results 😂 would be interesting
I have a big desk, with a main 32" monitor in the middle, my XG17 in portrait mode next to it on one side, and my g14 on a stand on the other side - I actually prefer it open. As for closing the lid, I've been doing some Reddit reading, and have discovered that it would be a bad idea for anything above very light browsing - some of the main heat is evacuated out along the top of the keyboard, and while I think these vents are exposed when the lid is closed, the area along the top next to the power button gets VERY hot under load. I'd rather not risk it! 🙂@@julijanlj.9195
Can't wait for the laptop giveaway 😂...as a student this would cos me a kidney
I don’t have advanced settings on my g-helper
Silly questions - do you have the 2023 g14? Updated to bios 310? There are no advanced settings, really - you click Fans + Power next to turbo to get to all of the undervolting stuff.
@@ktbpylon
I have the Asus M16 of 2021-2022
@@youplay.nostalgia it might be that the intel cpu is locked down? I know that most 11th gen intel CPU’s were locked in bios so you couldn’t undervolt them - might be similar for you unfortunately :-(
Is the fan plus power button greyed out for you? If you can click it and it opens the pop up, can you at least adjust the fan curve?
@@ktbpylon
Yes can do that and also adjust turbo boost and limit but no undervolt option.
Yup - sounds like you got hit with the 11th gen Intel lockdown 😞 My only advice is to see if there are previous versions of your bios that allow undervolting, and to see if you can downgrade your BIOS version. I did that when I had an X17 R1 with an i7-11800h. Sorry I can't help more!@@youplay.nostalgia