I’ve noticed minor problems with hit reg and dying around corners, but all the old cods were even worse. And with the guns they feel like hit reg. So that would explain some of these problems. But I kill others around corners and they do the same to me. It’s still been 100x more fun for me than playing cod these days. Being able to change direction mid air is pretty fun and spot on for an arcade type game. There’s nothing realistic about the game and I love that. I love that I can use every gun and still top frag, the low aim assists makes getting kills feel rewarding, and makes using the acog actually helpful instead of harmful on many guns. My favorite gun is the m60 it’s slow and it shreds. The long maps on the stage game modes (like war) are tons of fun to play and each faction’s passive is useful so there’s many ways to play. The thing that’ll ruin this game isn’t the connection, but the cheaters. Ubisoft never has good anticheat, and if the stress test has em on day one, the ranked mode is toast cause of clout chasing cheaters. Hopefully it’s not as bad as cod tho… ranked over there is damn near unplayable without running into at least one person with obvious wall hacks.
I've never seen hitreg this broken ever in any game in 17 years of gaming. Every second or third bullet is just blind. 1000 mbps optic net and +-20 latency. For me this is like 5-10 times worse than alpha and beta - like they were working very hard for 1 year to downgrade servers. Its fun when it works, but for me it works in 1 out of 5 gunfights. No visible lags like teleporting or rubberbanding.
Plays like how an Arcade shooter should play minus the minor bugs and server issues. The game knows what it wants to be I mean I don't know if you expected a completely different game
After the last test were biggest problem was hit detection, we now delayed the game around a year but didnt fix hit detection. We made even worse. After this test we now know see its still a problem, so we have to delay and do nothing, again.Sincerely Ubisoft.
This is exactly what’s happening to me. Shots not registering or not getting hit markers. Enemies getting shot 10 times and still have 50% health, I get beamed in 3 shots. 1/8 of every kill I am able to kill someone in 4-5 shots and I kept getting killed behind walls. This definitely needs to be fixed
yeah im not gonna sugarcoat it when i can pump a entire mag with the shotgun while also playing the cleaners and not kill only to die in less than half a second to a few mp7 shots
I didn't really identify the problem as the servers until after I watched this video and realized that this same stuff has been happening to me in my games. I am constantly killing players after they have moved behind cover and vice versa.
I had basically the polar opposite experience. I really enjoyed it and had relatively few problems for a game that still hasn’t fully released. Really didn’t have any server issues in the roughly 3 hours I played today.
Gotta realize Nero is a cod youtuber gotta take everything he says about the game with a grain of salt I also had a great time on the game way more fun not having to worry about rigged matchmaking
@@NatexReese It's definitely not just him though. This was my experience after playing for a few hours yesterday. Every. Single. Game. Everything else from the game is great, but this netcode/bullet registration is completely dragging down the whole experience for me.
Look at the CoD shills bugging in comments. No SBMM/EOMM is an auto-W. Netcode/hit reg can be ironed out. CoD will always exploit it's fans. Good riddance!
@@xxPhoenixX-sg9trThese tests are needed for them to iron it out, when they test internally they aren't getting a ton of players loading the servers and creating these issues. This gives then an idea of how much work they need to do.
I wouldn’t say NO SBMM/EOMM its just slightly lower than COD’s currently is its still there but like at BO4 level it feels like that but with bad hit detection rn it def needs another year or 2 the base of the game is too important to overlook I rather them fix this then rush and release it
@@iAmL3J3ND there is no sbmm or eomm, your getting matched with random people of all skill lvls. You’re likely of a lower skill lvl so the decent players overwhelm you.
My aim with controller on PC in XDefiant (I play controller on PC so my friends on console can play and not get screwed by input-based matchmaking) feels horrendous compared to the play tests last year. It's like trying to aim with a windshield wiper. I have it set to sensitivity 10 and it still feels way too high. Idk what Ubisoft did to this game over the past year, but I'm no longer interested. And that's a damn shame.
@@Nitroh- I'm glad I'm not alone. I ended up uninstalling the test and walking away wondering if I just had rose tinted goggles from last year's tests. Really glad I have Helldivers now though to keep me busy and happy.
@@RavenJoe here's the thing. helldivers 2 has the best "out-of-the-box" controller aiming I've ever experienced, with zero tweaking. I am acutely aware that I've been spoiled by the perfect controller aiming of HD2.
I always tell my friends this, all the new "CoD killers" have this floaty, awkward aiming sens, like Apex and the Finals, Whereas all the big titles, Halo, BF, CoD, have crazy snappy, smooth aiming sens.
@@HistoricallygamifiedEven if they did it doesn’t fix the problem in game. I’ve tried to play on controller, and had to edit my aim settings multiple times just for it to feel the exact same as if it was on default settings. People really need to stop downplaying the issues in the game or trying to disregard them. That’s how games release so messed up and sometimes don’t get fixed properly.
The worst part is that when the whistle blower came out there were hundreds of people in your comment section defending Ubisoft and saying that those employees are just upset about something else and were lying
TTK seems much quicker than I remember from the last beta, thought it was similar to CoD but slower last time I played. You're probably just not used to actual recoil and less AA :D
The worse thing is i have seen the echelon faction be completely invisible while they are shooting and have been completely invisible the entire game.. i literally can't see them even tho they haven't used the ability
It's currently a cheat. I played with a team that was selling the cheats. I joined their discord to get screen caps to report players. The two main cheats are the vision goggles being active the entire game and being invisible the entire game. If you are echelon on the team that someone is using the cheats, the cheats will activate on your operator too making legit players think it's a glitch. The players using and selling the cheats on my team gave me walls with vision goggles the entire game, without me asking for them them 😢
I knew people were cheating and this confirms it for me.. there was no reason why I could see certain players using the same ability and faction and not others
This is exactly what I feared would happen. Games that get delayed again and again and again often end being a complete dumpster fire. So many potentially great games have fallen to ruin because of this trend. Looks like XDefiant is the latest victim of this trope. So sad.
Well, what did we expect guys? The movie industry is woke, nothing works right anymore, the games are infested with diversity and woke again and this is why they cannot make a good game anymore not like they used to sorry.
@saigoalclips6474 I'm paraphrasing from memory here, but something along the lines of the game has gone through multiple changes to replicate Call of Duty and the game hasn't really made much progress. I believe Nero has a video about the rumors, it wasn't too long ago either, maybe a month or two ago.
Disappointing. My internet provider has a major outage due to lightning strike doubt I get a chance to play this weekend but doesn’t sound like I’m missing much.
What an absolute Joke 😂 They made almost everything way worse compared to the last beta. - Netcode: obviously horrendous - Movement: waaaay clunkier and slower - Audio (especially footsteps): bugged as f - Party System: Outdated as f On top of that: There is absolute no way that this game doesn't have sbmm. Every match was us vs. team virginity. Also keep in mind that the lobbies are disbanding after every match. They fumbled the bag for almost an entire year for all of THIS ? That is crazy... 🤡
Yeah. People thought there wouldn’t be sweats in any game except for call of duty 😂 like the only people playing this are cod try hards. Cod casual arent playing this
@@TheBlueBunnyKenyou cant play shooters with sbmm not cause of casuals vs sweats. You dont play games with casuals not cause they dont exist but because the game doesnt allow it
Everybody and their mother is bunny hopping 24/7. I knew there was gonna be sweats in here just like any other game, but goddamn it is hella annoying to face EVERY MATCH!
The lobbies in this game are somehow twice as sweaty as CoD and in this final test the game has become even more unfun. Almost like the only people playing are the MW2019 movement sweats and 2009 FaZe Quick scoping sweats. Every single lobby.
Interesting… I didn’t notice anything major today. The hitreg and damage was a bit weird at very minor points but in virtually every match I had the top K/D. I was really enjoying the arcade action, it’s the best thing we have besides EOMMW3 after all!
How is this still a thing in modern gaming with higher tech. This stuff happened in cods over decade ago regularly. BO1 and BO2 were terrible for shot round corners.
Hit detention in this game is absolutely abysmal. Why do I die before I can even comprehend what happened yet when I shoot someone I dump the whole clip into them and their health doesn't move? Make it make sense
Its funny cause i 100% agree the game felt off right away. And despite it fundamentally not working i was still happy not to be manipulated lol! No SBMM is still a huge selling point for me. COD is just an illusion at this point and even ranked with the mmr. Hopefully they figure this out cause im loving this game!
This is the sweatiest game I’ve ever played and it runs like shit on my Xbox. Somehow cod runs 60+ fps and this runs lesser with potato graphics. You get 40 bullets into a headshot and then someone 2 shots you with a leg shot and goes 59 and 3
I’m glad I’m not the only one noticing the wanted pro perk has returned in this game. Net code is frustrating to handle right now, but it’s a decent game, just have to tinker the netcode. Still can’t say I’m not disappointed, hopefully they fix this issue ASAP.
Feels like there's a hidden MMR in xdefiant and there's this weird stuff with the echelon invisibility stays after the countdown ends the activation of the ability or when you shoot ending the ability early
I've seen others in the comments saying that it's actually cheats that people are using(at least for the invisibility staying). Yes, on Day 1 of a Test Server... Apparently, once someone on your team activates the cheat, it involuntarily activates for everyone who's using Echelon.
What gets me are the unfinished animations. End game thumbs up animation makes the player character look like an oblivion npc. Put a vert grip on AK's and the hand still grips it with a c-clamp phasing through the vert grip. It's been how long and it's still not finished quality? Not to mention the lack of content... OG mw2 was fun due to variety. I can only do so much without killstreaks, throwing knives, perks, riot shields, usable shotguns, ANYTHING besides just core shooting. It's so repetitive that i got bored after 3 hours despite being hyped for this for so long. Do we have to wait an additional year after release for seasonal content to fill out the game?
It's just not a very enjoyable game to play right now. It's a decent concept but the execution has been lackluster and the current product doesn't come close to matching the hype the game has gotten or the promises the devs have made.
I knew i wasnt going crazy when i was telling everyone for some reason i cant do damage at all to anyone but im getting 2 shotted and shot behind walls...im over this game theyve failed too many time in my opinion
I never had any expectations for this game. Not really sure where all the hype came from. I'm glad I didn't spend any of my energy following the progress and development of this game.
100% making the same experience. They told us they renewed the netcode from ground up, but it feels very bad. If the team doesn’t get this things to work in the future this will be unplayable because you loose fun, it feels random
As much work as this game needs, it’s the only shooter that feels closest to CoD multiplayer that doesn’t have SBMM or EOMM. Perhaps they can only fine tune the net code over a period of time by having us play it in larger numbers with busy servers? If we want a CoD alternative then let’s give them time to fix it with busy servers instead of the unrealistic expectations of perfecting the game offline.
Yep, getting old already. The echelon faction it too OP. Getting pinged non stop and 5 out of 6 players pick them. Maybe it just me but I have a hard time seeing people In this game even when they're not invisible.
@@Fuzzylumpkins02You probably need to play around with your colour settings or brightness in game, the enemy literally has a highlighted border around them
Yeah, i don’t like it either and i don’t spend my time bunny hopping. In their defense some other games have it too but yeah i would rather not having it but can live with it. I find that it’s fine for an after work casual game.
@Prometheus94 Yeah, I have noticed that, but my eyes seem to have a hard time catching it sometimes. Perhaps you may be right. Might have to mess with colors or brightness.
I had plans to play X defiant today. Its 420, was gonna bring my squad from COD with me to play it this weekend. Was looking forward to it! Now, ive seen NOTHING but people with this same sentiment. Ive never seen so many gamers agree on something. The game is a let down. The extensive delays were seemingly for nothing. Really is a shame, was massively looking forward to it.
It was my first time playing the XDefiant beta. I was excited as I heard about all the good things and how this game would rival CoD. At first I thought I just had to adjust to the game, but I was experiencing the same issues as the ones shown in the video. Not the best first experience.
lol I had a feeling this was going to happen. It's one reason I wasn't hyped for the game. The next step for this game, if it ever releases, is all the microtransactions and passes they shove in your face to play the game.
I could get past the hit detection and server issues because i could see that stuff being fixed. What i can't get past is the horrible movement. It feels like driving an old car with worn out steering components.
I don't know what it is but I feel the hit detection gets even worse when someone starts jumping. I'll be 100% on target shooting middle of their chest and they just jump and then I can no longer do damage and just get absolutely melted. This happens so much to the point that I can't even figure out what the issue is. Is it my aim my sensitivity am I using improper weapons but it never fails with any change that I make that if a person jumps there's no damage that can be done to them. At this point I don't even know if it's a server issue or just a straight up Hitbox coding issue.
I'd find that terribly frustrating too. What was your ping? and was that core mode? I think they've missed their chance...everyone was so fed-up with COD they were keen to look elsewhere but the delays have been so long, people are now just thinking ahead to the next COD GulfWar.
On top of all the bullet registration and netcode issue you mentioned, this game also suffered from a significantly worse performance optimization than the last test (at least for me). I have an i9-9900K with RTX 2080 and with medium graphic settings my game is only running on 30-40FPS, with occasional-to-frequent severe stutter that renders the game unplayable for half of the time.
Could it be the engine they are using? It's the same engine that The Division uses, right? I never played the PvP, so I have no idea if hit detection in The Dark Zone was good or not.
@@Mike-HF It’s kinda like a poor man’s Call Of Duty. The game is free to play while also feeling cheaply developed at the same time. There’s really not much that makes it any different than any other fps.
@@BryanCinemas Bro, you see why I didn’t even respond to that clown? I just seen that he commented in the most liked comment on this vid by saying, “No SBMM makes it better than COD”. 😂😂😂😂. Straight 🤡😂
The hit reg is SO bad, the sweaty bunny hopping airstrafing is annoying, and the NEVER ENDING SCREEN SHAKE makes me nauseous. A year of delays for this bs.
Ok, I am happy you made this video. I played last night for about 3 hours and I just felt like something is wrong and I can't be that bad. I am old too and I know I am not what I was in high school/college etc. but I know am better than what I played like. I was willing to say it's a test server last year so I played that off, but I expected more and felt like it was the same. This just tells me I am not the only one experiencing this. I knew it wasn't my connection since I pay for a whole separate gaming line with 1500 up/down and a new netduma lol .
Pfieuw I only played 3 matches and thought what the heck happens. I felt the same. I thought sbmm was implanted at high level an I played a server million miles away. Felt like cod
The fact that you said “this game is everything I want” and the FIRST thing you said was “no SBMM” is exactly why this game will fail. The only selling point is “there’s no SBMM”. Everything else is awful
@@LucrativeLeroy no. No it doesn’t. Because do you know what’s going to happen? Casuals are going to try the game. They will be put in lobbies with sweaty streamers, TTV and YT players. They’ll get wrecked and say it’s not fun because everyone tries so hard. The average person is not good at the video games they play
Game was destined to fail. The constant push backs was the sign. Also the game just isn’t good. No kill streaks no real incentive to want to play. I just don’t care about getting mindless kills. It a very cheap overwatch reskin just with cod ! It has no value outside of it being free but other than that we don’t need XDefiant it’s not game changing and it doesn’t move the culture or gaming world.
I played 4 matches and aside from the game having the exact same stuff as last time, the netcode was just as bad. Constantly getting shot behind a wall, or getting shot by someone who's not facing me, etc. As someone who had been waiting and hoping this game would deliver I'm disappointed
Uninstalled during my second game. Sniping feels TERRIBLE. All the youtubers getting feeds must be cheating because all I get is hitmarkers and zero hit registrations.
simple to add? You know ZERO about programming. Kill cams are a huge programming challange. Like HUGE..they are saying they will be here season 1 (not 0), so it'll be a while yet.
@@jameseismon9792How difficult can it be to show me a 5 second recording of another players screen? Its not that they have to create sometimething new... It already happened.. They just have to make a recording of it for me...
@@MisterSerial Killcams aren't videos. The game doesn't "record" anything. The code probably saves the global game state and has a feature (Replay) that can play a sequence of game states from different player perspectives. The engine has to do the rendering. Once you die, the game accesses the game state history from ago, using the attacker's id. After that, the game plays their POV.
@@simonjeremy1776 So if I ask for killcams I want cod? And if I ask for vehicles I want battlefield? And if I ask for aliens I want halo? And if i ask for a battle royal mode I want fortnite? So one cannot ask for a specific feature without wanting it to be just as another game?
The hit registration and curving bullets are really really bad indeed.. it feels like no matter what you do the game just decides for itself who it wants to win the gunfight.. Also i hope they make the game a bit slower... I mean I like fast paced games but the respawn times.. bro... let me breathe... And for me it feels like there is indeed sbmm and it is very strong
I honestly think its just something wrong with your computer or internet. I've been playing for about 3-4 hours and have not come across any server issues. The only things ive had issues with is small bugs that I cant use my tactical for libertad or a guy using the invisible camo except his was permanent the whole game. other than that nothing huge
tons of sweats, tons of prefiring, tons of bunny hopping and slide cancelling. Netcode as of now is extremely bad, to the point i thought there are cheats at play at the beginning. And yet, devs can only fix the netcode, since every "fast paced shooter" nowadays needs to be a sweatfest apparently. And that is not for me... Good luck to ppl who like to sweat tho, i genuinely wish you all to have fun without cod's dogshit sbmm!
I think people are having different experiences for whatever reasons. I played for like 3-4 hours on Friday and I didn’t have even close to the amount of netcode issues that you’ve outlined here Nero. Definitely had a few instances where I was around the corner and died around the corner but it was no more than playing a session of call of duty. That being said I think your concerns are valid because my main concern is trying to get long shots. Hit detection at long range is rough but I found hit detection in general to be improved from the last play test.
I played the last beta and this server test. The aim still feel super off. I have been trying different setting combinations but it just feels very weird. It is not as refined as COD or Battlefield.
Idk about you guys but for me this game plays soo horrible like a knock off shooter. The controls are awful and not smooth and the movement and feels sluggish
I don't think you remember Bo2 at all. The game runs perfectly fine and I've never had these issues. I lasted played like a week ago and the servers feel better than XDefiant and any recent CoD.
@@michaelespeland Did you read my comment? I said I a week ago and didn't have any of those issues. I can hop on right now and still be playing with no issues.
Difference between BO2 and XDefiant is that BO2 released in 2012. XDefiant is a modern game that’ll likely release this year, 2024, where tech and programming is more advanced, so issues like this can be avoided.
agree, and the game is fine. This guy is whining about things he doesn't even know. If he was in the know, he would understand this isn't final code. We are testing servers, not software.
I agree, since RUclipsrs have become popular you have to play a certain way, you have to be having 100+ kill games with the same 2 weapons nobody wanna be having fun anymore.
@@LiveTUNA he takes up for COD and all there scams he don't talk down on COD and it's fully released with the worst sbmm system to exist and there scummy micro transactions over game content you can play. So I mean come on
@@ghostraider4312 the mcdonalds of FPS still has better hit detection and fun gameplay compared to whatever this test is. no sbmm cant help a game if its fundamentals dont work
@@GRANDTHEFTBATO Sure… better hit detection 🙄. An experienced cod player know this is false. Idk maybe you’re just the average person that accepts crap over and over 🤷♂️
HELLO NOTIFICATION SQUAD! What have your experiences with the XDefiant Beta been like so far?
I’ve noticed minor problems with hit reg and dying around corners, but all the old cods were even worse. And with the guns they feel like hit reg. So that would explain some of these problems. But I kill others around corners and they do the same to me.
It’s still been 100x more fun for me than playing cod these days. Being able to change direction mid air is pretty fun and spot on for an arcade type game. There’s nothing realistic about the game and I love that. I love that I can use every gun and still top frag, the low aim assists makes getting kills feel rewarding, and makes using the acog actually helpful instead of harmful on many guns. My favorite gun is the m60 it’s slow and it shreds. The long maps on the stage game modes (like war) are tons of fun to play and each faction’s passive is useful so there’s many ways to play.
The thing that’ll ruin this game isn’t the connection, but the cheaters. Ubisoft never has good anticheat, and if the stress test has em on day one, the ranked mode is toast cause of clout chasing cheaters. Hopefully it’s not as bad as cod tho… ranked over there is damn near unplayable without running into at least one person with obvious wall hacks.
I've never seen hitreg this broken ever in any game in 17 years of gaming. Every second or third bullet is just blind. 1000 mbps optic net and +-20 latency. For me this is like 5-10 times worse than alpha and beta - like they were working very hard for 1 year to downgrade servers. Its fun when it works, but for me it works in 1 out of 5 gunfights. No visible lags like teleporting or rubberbanding.
Still better than a game manipulating you in game
Plays like how an Arcade shooter should play minus the minor bugs and server issues. The game knows what it wants to be I mean I don't know if you expected a completely different game
games felt fine for me so far so i dont get why you are saying its so bad?
It seems like the Insider Gaming article was on point. It had s whole section about the netcode and how bad it felt.
Yea, my thoughts exactly this was the same issue in Halo Infinite.
After the last test were biggest problem was hit detection, we now delayed the game around a year but didnt fix hit detection. We made even worse. After this test we now know see its still a problem, so we have to delay and do nothing, again.Sincerely Ubisoft.
This is exactly what’s happening to me. Shots not registering or not getting hit markers. Enemies getting shot 10 times and still have 50% health, I get beamed in 3 shots. 1/8 of every kill I am able to kill someone in 4-5 shots and I kept getting killed behind walls. This definitely needs to be fixed
So it sounds like EVERY COD for the last ten years.
i thought i was the only one smh
It won’t lol 😂
yeah im not gonna sugarcoat it when i can pump a entire mag with the shotgun while also playing the cleaners and not kill only to die in less than half a second to a few mp7 shots
@@CattoTime exactly what happens with my ak47 and acr
I've played a few hours now and haven't ran into this. Been really enjoying it personally!
Bullets be curving like in Wanted
😂 You beat me to this.
like in cod
Halo Infinite ruined me with desync. Never again.
Thanks for this comment
like in cyberpunk lmao
As someone who didn’t play before, having a good time. Servers were working well when I played on xbox
🤣
I want what you're smoking
I didn't really identify the problem as the servers until after I watched this video and realized that this same stuff has been happening to me in my games. I am constantly killing players after they have moved behind cover and vice versa.
Yep I'm Xbox and this is happening to me all the time. It is very bad.
Me too on Xbox
The Game is nice
I had basically the polar opposite experience. I really enjoyed it and had relatively few problems for a game that still hasn’t fully released. Really didn’t have any server issues in the roughly 3 hours I played today.
Gotta realize Nero is a cod youtuber gotta take everything he says about the game with a grain of salt I also had a great time on the game way more fun not having to worry about rigged matchmaking
@@NatexReese It's definitely not just him though. This was my experience after playing for a few hours yesterday. Every. Single. Game.
Everything else from the game is great, but this netcode/bullet registration is completely dragging down the whole experience for me.
@@InsomniacUNthe only issue is the hit detection tho idk why everybody else is so upset. I enjoyed playing it for the first time today
@@NatexReese it depends, I player in the morning and it was fine, not great but fine. In the evening it was horrible.
Look at the CoD shills bugging in comments. No SBMM/EOMM is an auto-W. Netcode/hit reg can be ironed out. CoD will always exploit it's fans. Good riddance!
Lmao ironed out? Bro they’ve had a whole year to fix the netcode and it’s worse than the last beta. 🤣🤦♂️. This is a poor man’s COD. It’s trash.
@@xxPhoenixX-sg9tr Funny how you say that being a cod player. One is indefinitely worse.
@@xxPhoenixX-sg9trThese tests are needed for them to iron it out, when they test internally they aren't getting a ton of players loading the servers and creating these issues. This gives then an idea of how much work they need to do.
I wouldn’t say NO SBMM/EOMM its just slightly lower than COD’s currently is its still there but like at BO4 level it feels like that but with bad hit detection rn it def needs another year or 2 the base of the game is too important to overlook I rather them fix this then rush and release it
@@iAmL3J3ND there is no sbmm or eomm, your getting matched with random people of all skill lvls. You’re likely of a lower skill lvl so the decent players overwhelm you.
I thought it was just me dieing around corners.
@@Daemon125 sad. Hopefully they can fix it. I want to like the game.
I thought I sucked or just wasn't aware of the lines of site.
My aim with controller on PC in XDefiant (I play controller on PC so my friends on console can play and not get screwed by input-based matchmaking) feels horrendous compared to the play tests last year. It's like trying to aim with a windshield wiper. I have it set to sensitivity 10 and it still feels way too high. Idk what Ubisoft did to this game over the past year, but I'm no longer interested. And that's a damn shame.
@@Nitroh- I'm glad I'm not alone. I ended up uninstalling the test and walking away wondering if I just had rose tinted goggles from last year's tests. Really glad I have Helldivers now though to keep me busy and happy.
@@RavenJoe here's the thing. helldivers 2 has the best "out-of-the-box" controller aiming I've ever experienced, with zero tweaking. I am acutely aware that I've been spoiled by the perfect controller aiming of HD2.
I always tell my friends this, all the new "CoD killers" have this floaty, awkward aiming sens, like Apex and the Finals,
Whereas all the big titles, Halo, BF, CoD, have crazy snappy, smooth aiming sens.
You all never heard of Linear huh? 😂
@@HistoricallygamifiedEven if they did it doesn’t fix the problem in game. I’ve tried to play on controller, and had to edit my aim settings multiple times just for it to feel the exact same as if it was on default settings. People really need to stop downplaying the issues in the game or trying to disregard them. That’s how games release so messed up and sometimes don’t get fixed properly.
The worst part is that when the whistle blower came out there were hundreds of people in your comment section defending Ubisoft and saying that those employees are just upset about something else and were lying
I love how it takes me a mag and a half to kill someone but I’m dropped in 2 shots if I’m lucky 3
That’s because your aim is trash. Re-read your problem and really think about it 🤣
@@littl3dave97wrong. It’s because of the netcode and how trash it is. Its worse then cod servers and that’s saying something 🤡🤦♂️🤣
TTK seems much quicker than I remember from the last beta, thought it was similar to CoD but slower last time I played. You're probably just not used to actual recoil and less AA :D
@@sQuaTsiFieD I’m on M&K I don’t use AA
Then try different attachments and see your overall RPM wtf 😂
The worse thing is i have seen the echelon faction be completely invisible while they are shooting and have been completely invisible the entire game.. i literally can't see them even tho they haven't used the ability
It's currently a cheat. I played with a team that was selling the cheats. I joined their discord to get screen caps to report players. The two main cheats are the vision goggles being active the entire game and being invisible the entire game. If you are echelon on the team that someone is using the cheats, the cheats will activate on your operator too making legit players think it's a glitch. The players using and selling the cheats on my team gave me walls with vision goggles the entire game, without me asking for them them 😢
@@LiveTUNA i guess this explains why my whole team earlier was using echelon in one of my games. i was like im the only cleaner lol
I knew people were cheating and this confirms it for me.. there was no reason why I could see certain players using the same ability and faction and not others
People are really cheating in a stress test beta for a game people don’t even care about? You gotta really have no life 😂
@toptiertech7291 I think the game can be really fun tho.. it's already being ruined by cheaters which is wild to me
This is exactly what I feared would happen. Games that get delayed again and again and again often end being a complete dumpster fire. So many potentially great games have fallen to ruin because of this trend. Looks like XDefiant is the latest victim of this trope. So sad.
Lol
Lol
Well, what did we expect guys? The movie industry is woke, nothing works right anymore, the games are infested with diversity and woke again and this is why they cannot make a good game anymore not like they used to sorry.
At this point those rumors from the whistle-blower are sound far more credible than not.
What did he say?
@saigoalclips6474 I'm paraphrasing from memory here, but something along the lines of the game has gone through multiple changes to replicate Call of Duty and the game hasn't really made much progress.
I believe Nero has a video about the rumors, it wasn't too long ago either, maybe a month or two ago.
I cam feel it when it comes to sniping, you simply can't challenge snipers in both games.
Disappointing. My internet provider has a major outage due to lightning strike doubt I get a chance to play this weekend but doesn’t sound like I’m missing much.
@@SavageSayo79 I meant to look into it to read it and better have an idea of what it said, but I do remember that being a part of it.
What an absolute Joke 😂 They made almost everything way worse compared to the last beta.
- Netcode: obviously horrendous
- Movement: waaaay clunkier and slower
- Audio (especially footsteps): bugged as f
- Party System: Outdated as f
On top of that: There is absolute no way that this game doesn't have sbmm. Every match was us vs. team virginity. Also keep in mind that the lobbies are disbanding after every match.
They fumbled the bag for almost an entire year for all of THIS ?
That is crazy... 🤡
Bunny hopping? Check. Pre-firing? Check. Towels required? Check. God bless the culture.
Yeah. People thought there wouldn’t be sweats in any game except for call of duty 😂 like the only people playing this are cod try hards. Cod casual arent playing this
@@toptiertech7291It’s in beta mode rn, of course it isn’t very many casuals playing
Shooters now a days aren't fun anymore. Can't casually play games for fun, it's just frustrating when people want to play like cdl players
@@TheBlueBunnyKenyou cant play shooters with sbmm not cause of casuals vs sweats. You dont play games with casuals not cause they dont exist but because the game doesnt allow it
@@marcusbrown4933 that argument would make sense in an private beta. the game is an open one which is basically available for everyone.
The TTK in headshots compared to body is really polarizing
ya they should for sure nerf that a bit given how fast paced the game is
Sniping is polarizing for me in this game....
Everybody and their mother is bunny hopping 24/7. I knew there was gonna be sweats in here just like any other game, but goddamn it is hella annoying to face EVERY MATCH!
Fr man and like competitive matches but damn not every damn game. Plus hit reg is so off
Played for about 2 hours, and the bunny hopping got old fast. Also, the echelon faction is too op. Getting pinged every 3 seconds is too much.
Obviously there's gonna be good players playing, since this only a TEST. No casual player is gonna hear or play this. Either you compete or you don't.
In fairness, the jumping feels smooth af, it's like you glide in the air lol, also sliding feels a little clunky so theres that
Don't get me started on the snipers...
The lobbies in this game are somehow twice as sweaty as CoD and in this final test the game has become even more unfun. Almost like the only people playing are the MW2019 movement sweats and 2009 FaZe Quick scoping sweats. Every single lobby.
@zacherylaviolette6716 The game is free, what are you on about?
No SBMM means you get mixed with good players and bad, don't like it go back to COD.
@@corruptedpoison1 Not for this game. Every lobby is just sweaty and it's impossible not to find someone b-hoping out of every corner.
@@Mike-HFhe’s means non beta
@@Mike-HF I haven't played it yet mind you. But remember this is just a server test.
This game is actually beyond unready. No wonder it's being delayed so often.
Interesting… I didn’t notice anything major today. The hitreg and damage was a bit weird at very minor points but in virtually every match I had the top K/D. I was really enjoying the arcade action, it’s the best thing we have besides EOMMW3 after all!
Where are you located? My ping was always 80+ not good....
whats up Pete!!! One of the best RUclipsrs out there
How is this still a thing in modern gaming with higher tech. This stuff happened in cods over decade ago regularly. BO1 and BO2 were terrible for shot round corners.
It still happens in CoD which is why I cannot stand the series. Shit netcode makes the game unplayable. Surprised you kids can tolerate it.
I'm actually enjoying this game having lots of fun!
Hit detention in this game is absolutely abysmal. Why do I die before I can even comprehend what happened yet when I shoot someone I dump the whole clip into them and their health doesn't move? Make it make sense
Its funny cause i 100% agree the game felt off right away. And despite it fundamentally not working i was still happy not to be manipulated lol! No SBMM is still a huge selling point for me. COD is just an illusion at this point and even ranked with the mmr.
Hopefully they figure this out cause im loving this game!
This aint a cod killer, its a blacklight retribution killer lmfao
Bro Fr fr feels like a game I would get only cause it’s free back in 2016 LMFAO
Who told you that this was a cod killer?
@@simonjeremy1776Content creators with over exaggerated thumbnails saying this game is a COD killer which I think they’re smoking.
My XDefiant server test experience is exactly your experience.
It was so bad a deleted it after an hour
Me too
I did that with the first play test.
@@warrantykillers41 amazingly somehow they've made it even worse from the 1st play test
This is the sweatiest game I’ve ever played and it runs like shit on my Xbox. Somehow cod runs 60+ fps and this runs lesser with potato graphics. You get 40 bullets into a headshot and then someone 2 shots you with a leg shot and goes 59 and 3
They Will delay this shit again for another 10 months.
Then play cod. I assume you enjoy them making cod every year. I’d rather wait a two years or 3 for a good finished FPS game.
I’m glad I’m not the only one noticing the wanted pro perk has returned in this game. Net code is frustrating to handle right now, but it’s a decent game, just have to tinker the netcode. Still can’t say I’m not disappointed, hopefully they fix this issue ASAP.
Feels like there's a hidden MMR in xdefiant and there's this weird stuff with the echelon invisibility stays after the countdown ends the activation of the ability or when you shoot ending the ability early
I've seen others in the comments saying that it's actually cheats that people are using(at least for the invisibility staying).
Yes, on Day 1 of a Test Server...
Apparently, once someone on your team activates the cheat, it involuntarily activates for everyone who's using Echelon.
@@Sir_Slimbread that's insane. I ran into that at least 4-6 times within 2 to 3 hours of playing
What gets me are the unfinished animations. End game thumbs up animation makes the player character look like an oblivion npc. Put a vert grip on AK's and the hand still grips it with a c-clamp phasing through the vert grip. It's been how long and it's still not finished quality?
Not to mention the lack of content... OG mw2 was fun due to variety. I can only do so much without killstreaks, throwing knives, perks, riot shields, usable shotguns, ANYTHING besides just core shooting.
It's so repetitive that i got bored after 3 hours despite being hyped for this for so long.
Do we have to wait an additional year after release for seasonal content to fill out the game?
It's just not a very enjoyable game to play right now. It's a decent concept but the execution has been lackluster and the current product doesn't come close to matching the hype the game has gotten or the promises the devs have made.
I knew i wasnt going crazy when i was telling everyone for some reason i cant do damage at all to anyone but im getting 2 shotted and shot behind walls...im over this game theyve failed too many time in my opinion
I never had any expectations for this game. Not really sure where all the hype came from. I'm glad I didn't spend any of my energy following the progress and development of this game.
100% making the same experience. They told us they renewed the netcode from ground up, but it feels very bad. If the team doesn’t get this things to work in the future this will be unplayable because you loose fun, it feels random
Haven't watched this yet but I think the new test/beta is pretty good I only played a few matches though
Hit detection, dying around corners, etc. In other words, it's like COD. 🙂
Not even close
What I’m saying acting like it’s not 10x worse in cod with rigged matchmaking on top of it
The movement felt really stiff. Wasn’t too impressed with the gunplay. Maps were nice. Probably going to pass on this one.
even if the game would work, it's still fundamentally not good.
there are so many broken abilities that are not fun to play against.
The connection issues seem just like COD the last 17 years, that doesn't stop people from playing.
As much work as this game needs, it’s the only shooter that feels closest to CoD multiplayer that doesn’t have SBMM or EOMM. Perhaps they can only fine tune the net code over a period of time by having us play it in larger numbers with busy servers?
If we want a CoD alternative then let’s give them time to fix it with busy servers instead of the unrealistic expectations of perfecting the game offline.
Literally every match ive played, everyone is jumping around corners like CoD.
Yep, getting old already. The echelon faction it too OP. Getting pinged non stop and 5 out of 6 players pick them. Maybe it just me but I have a hard time seeing people In this game even when they're not invisible.
@@Fuzzylumpkins02You probably need to play around with your colour settings or brightness in game, the enemy literally has a highlighted border around them
Yeah, i don’t like it either and i don’t spend my time bunny hopping.
In their defense some other games have it too but yeah i would rather not having it but can live with it.
I find that it’s fine for an after work casual game.
@Prometheus94 Yeah, I have noticed that, but my eyes seem to have a hard time catching it sometimes. Perhaps you may be right. Might have to mess with colors or brightness.
I had plans to play X defiant today. Its 420, was gonna bring my squad from COD with me to play it this weekend. Was looking forward to it!
Now, ive seen NOTHING but people with this same sentiment. Ive never seen so many gamers agree on something. The game is a let down. The extensive delays were seemingly for nothing.
Really is a shame, was massively looking forward to it.
Your loss. I played up to level 40 so I put lots of time into it, and experienced minimal netcode issues. Everyone's got different experiences.
Let’s be patient and appreciate they at least trying and putting it in-front of us instead of releasing bullshit
It was my first time playing the XDefiant beta. I was excited as I heard about all the good things and how this game would rival CoD. At first I thought I just had to adjust to the game, but I was experiencing the same issues as the ones shown in the video. Not the best first experience.
It's over with for these types of games. Cod is for ever going to take over no matter how bad it is. These smaller companies keep flopping
no I am Praying that Delta Force Hawk Ops takes over
@@Drewkungfooimma be real don’t see that game being any good tbh lol
It’s free? 🤷♂️ $70 for the same crap?
lol I had a feeling this was going to happen. It's one reason I wasn't hyped for the game. The next step for this game, if it ever releases, is all the microtransactions and passes they shove in your face to play the game.
I could get past the hit detection and server issues because i could see that stuff being fixed. What i can't get past is the horrible movement. It feels like driving an old car with worn out steering components.
I don't know what it is but I feel the hit detection gets even worse when someone starts jumping. I'll be 100% on target shooting middle of their chest and they just jump and then I can no longer do damage and just get absolutely melted. This happens so much to the point that I can't even figure out what the issue is. Is it my aim my sensitivity am I using improper weapons but it never fails with any change that I make that if a person jumps there's no damage that can be done to them. At this point I don't even know if it's a server issue or just a straight up Hitbox coding issue.
I'd find that terribly frustrating too. What was your ping? and was that core mode? I think they've missed their chance...everyone was so fed-up with COD they were keen to look elsewhere but the delays have been so long, people are now just thinking ahead to the next COD GulfWar.
Agree 100%, game could be fun but can’t get over the terrible hit registration and aiming feels terrible on MnK
Gimme a Gotham city imposters remaster 😂
On top of all the bullet registration and netcode issue you mentioned, this game also suffered from a significantly worse performance optimization than the last test (at least for me). I have an i9-9900K with RTX 2080 and with medium graphic settings my game is only running on 30-40FPS, with occasional-to-frequent severe stutter that renders the game unplayable for half of the time.
3:46 nero right here the guy couldve had peakers advantage so he could see your arm before you see him
That’s BS … this game is so fast … explains 50 kills 2 deaths? Something is wrong!
Could it be the engine they are using? It's the same engine that The Division uses, right? I never played the PvP, so I have no idea if hit detection in The Dark Zone was good or not.
XDefiant is a poor man’s Call of Duty. 🤦♂️👎 It’s crazy that ppl were calling it a COD Killer. No SSBM is the only thing it has on CoD.
Sounds like you haven't actually played the game or just somehow your eyes missed everything
@@Mike-HFDid you not watch this video at all? The servers suck. I’ve seen Roblox FPS games that play way better than this lol
@@BryanCinemas Did you read the comment? It's not about the connection it's about the game being a "poor man's Call of Duty,"
@@Mike-HF It’s kinda like a poor man’s Call Of Duty. The game is free to play while also feeling cheaply developed at the same time. There’s really not much that makes it any different than any other fps.
@@BryanCinemas Bro, you see why I didn’t even respond to that clown? I just seen that he commented in the most liked comment on this vid by saying, “No SBMM makes it better than COD”. 😂😂😂😂. Straight 🤡😂
Thank you NERO this game is definitely all sorts of messed up
The hit reg is SO bad, the sweaty bunny hopping airstrafing is annoying, and the NEVER ENDING SCREEN SHAKE makes me nauseous. A year of delays for this bs.
It's a Ubisoft game, of course it has to be like that
Weapons (especially pistols) feel incredibly weak and most matches are full of sweaty tryhards. This games is worse than CoD in terms of matchmaking!
Ok, I am happy you made this video. I played last night for about 3 hours and I just felt like something is wrong and I can't be that bad. I am old too and I know I am not what I was in high school/college etc. but I know am better than what I played like. I was willing to say it's a test server last year so I played that off, but I expected more and felt like it was the same. This just tells me I am not the only one experiencing this. I knew it wasn't my connection since I pay for a whole separate gaming line with 1500 up/down and a new netduma lol .
I heard it was just a bunch of no mic sweats I’ll pass on this game
I think it's a good game for a free game I'm just not confident that it will keep the players invested for months like rainbow six does
Pfieuw I only played 3 matches and thought what the heck happens. I felt the same. I thought sbmm was implanted at high level an I played a server million miles away. Felt like cod
The fact that you said “this game is everything I want” and the FIRST thing you said was “no SBMM” is exactly why this game will fail. The only selling point is “there’s no SBMM”. Everything else is awful
Exactly no SBMM means nothing when the core game is trash
That’s all it needs to survive.
@@LucrativeLeroy no. No it doesn’t. Because do you know what’s going to happen? Casuals are going to try the game. They will be put in lobbies with sweaty streamers, TTV and YT players. They’ll get wrecked and say it’s not fun because everyone tries so hard. The average person is not good at the video games they play
Game was destined to fail. The constant push backs was the sign. Also the game just isn’t good. No kill streaks no real incentive to want to play. I just don’t care about getting mindless kills. It a very cheap overwatch reskin just with cod ! It has no value outside of it being free but other than that we don’t need XDefiant it’s not game changing and it doesn’t move the culture or gaming world.
I played 4 matches and aside from the game having the exact same stuff as last time, the netcode was just as bad. Constantly getting shot behind a wall, or getting shot by someone who's not facing me, etc. As someone who had been waiting and hoping this game would deliver I'm disappointed
Its just off, everything, no crispness to anything, the netcodes mangled. It was the same in the previous session.
I swear this game wasnt this fast paced bro
i like it fast paced.
@@misterPAINMAKER im getting older everyday 😂
You did a good job capturing the desync and server problems you’re experiencing and this should help devs identify the problem
Uninstalled during my second game. Sniping feels TERRIBLE. All the youtubers getting feeds must be cheating because all I get is hitmarkers and zero hit registrations.
Or your just ass
I hate saying this because I was excited for this . I love ghost recon , division but I think I don’t like this 😢 I really want to
This game is never releasing
No killcams? Man i swear some of these kills or so sus, and I can’t even see if the person is doing some bs
💯💯💯💯💯
The fact there's no killcams really annoy me... Like it's such a simple thing to add. Why is it not in the game 😭
simple to add? You know ZERO about programming. Kill cams are a huge programming challange. Like HUGE..they are saying they will be here season 1 (not 0), so it'll be a while yet.
@@jameseismon9792How difficult can it be to show me a 5 second recording of another players screen? Its not that they have to create sometimething new... It already happened.. They just have to make a recording of it for me...
Why do y'all want them to be cod so badly?
@@MisterSerial Killcams aren't videos. The game doesn't "record" anything. The code probably saves the global game state and has a feature (Replay) that can play a sequence of game states from different player perspectives. The engine has to do the rendering. Once you die, the game accesses the game state history from ago, using the attacker's id. After that, the game plays their POV.
@@simonjeremy1776 So if I ask for killcams I want cod? And if I ask for vehicles I want battlefield? And if I ask for aliens I want halo? And if i ask for a battle royal mode I want fortnite?
So one cannot ask for a specific feature without wanting it to be just as another game?
The hit registration and curving bullets are really really bad indeed.. it feels like no matter what you do the game just decides for itself who it wants to win the gunfight..
Also i hope they make the game a bit slower... I mean I like fast paced games but the respawn times.. bro... let me breathe...
And for me it feels like there is indeed sbmm and it is very strong
Get...rid...of...bunny hopping
amen
FKING OATH!
Kinda spittin.
I typically don't get too annoyed with how others play, but everyone I went up against today was Bunny Hopping constantly
Yea cause mw2 was so fun to play😐
@@TheRealVen that game as well it should b removed in that game too
I like the emoji you can send after death... very cool stuff
I honestly think its just something wrong with your computer or internet. I've been playing for about 3-4 hours and have not come across any server issues. The only things ive had issues with is small bugs that I cant use my tactical for libertad or a guy using the invisible camo except his was permanent the whole game. other than that nothing huge
yep, the same stuff... i play on normal ping around 20-30ms i get burst of damage from ppl who have ping higher than me from about 40ms
You know what else will be & has been a MASSIVE letdown Nero?
Call of Duty: MW3, & Call of Duty: Gulf War.
Love the content Nero. I hope to get on tomorrow and try this game out. Hope you have a better time tomorrow
I'll still give it a try, but something tells me that I'll just stick with The Finals
The finals OST and content is on another level tho, xdefiant kinda suck excepet the world build
Eww 😷
The finals is even worse than xd lol the finals was a major flop of a game. If it had tdm it would kill xdefiant honestly 😅
@@999i-nfraxdefiant and the finals are 2 very different games lol
@@999i-nfrayou’re just bad 😂
tons of sweats, tons of prefiring, tons of bunny hopping and slide cancelling. Netcode as of now is extremely bad, to the point i thought there are cheats at play at the beginning. And yet, devs can only fix the netcode, since every "fast paced shooter" nowadays needs to be a sweatfest apparently. And that is not for me...
Good luck to ppl who like to sweat tho, i genuinely wish you all to have fun without cod's dogshit sbmm!
Bunny hopping already ruining this game lol that shit needs to stop in modern games
Agreed, ran into someone that was spamming it so fast the character model feet was not even touching the ground. They looked like they were floating.
There needs to be a jump fatigue mechanic so that it can’t be spammed. And with current hit registration, bunny hopping is currently way too good
It’s the same as it was as before, people was just overhyping this 💩
AR's are so bad, subs world game
The bullet physics are just what i expect with a Ubisoft pvp fps 😂
I couldnt find X on ps4, is it only on ps5?
Yes it is only ps5 version
@@mosafoviki damn, I can't find it for PC either tho
I think people are having different experiences for whatever reasons. I played for like 3-4 hours on Friday and I didn’t have even close to the amount of netcode issues that you’ve outlined here Nero. Definitely had a few instances where I was around the corner and died around the corner but it was no more than playing a session of call of duty.
That being said I think your concerns are valid because my main concern is trying to get long shots. Hit detection at long range is rough but I found hit detection in general to be improved from the last play test.
I played the last beta and this server test. The aim still feel super off. I have been trying different setting combinations but it just feels very weird. It is not as refined as COD or Battlefield.
Input lag is still there I think. Movement feels terribly off compared to battlefield, Apex and Cod. It’s just not fluid
Same
Idk about you guys but for me this game plays soo horrible like a knock off shooter. The controls are awful and not smooth and the movement and feels sluggish
This happened in BO2 24/7 😂😂
Walls were made of paper.
But “bEsT cOd EvEr” am I right 😂
I don't think you remember Bo2 at all. The game runs perfectly fine and I've never had these issues. I lasted played like a week ago and the servers feel better than XDefiant and any recent CoD.
I'm sorry for you man, that's not at all how I experienced bo2. Maybe your location?
@@Mike-HF No he's right lmao. But the rose tinted glasses on peoples heads make them forget
@@michaelespeland Did you read my comment? I said I a week ago and didn't have any of those issues. I can hop on right now and still be playing with no issues.
Difference between BO2 and XDefiant is that BO2 released in 2012. XDefiant is a modern game that’ll likely release this year, 2024, where tech and programming is more advanced, so issues like this can be avoided.
The hype died that’s what happened
I've said it before youtubers kill games. Cause people take what yall say as law. Yall keep playing cod with 100 dollar skins.
You must not be subscribed to Nero or watched ANY of his videos if you think about him.
@@LiveTUNAlmao right?
agree, and the game is fine. This guy is whining about things he doesn't even know. If he was in the know, he would understand this isn't final code. We are testing servers, not software.
I agree, since RUclipsrs have become popular you have to play a certain way, you have to be having 100+ kill games with the same 2 weapons nobody wanna be having fun anymore.
@@LiveTUNA he takes up for COD and all there scams he don't talk down on COD and it's fully released with the worst sbmm system to exist and there scummy micro transactions over game content you can play. So I mean come on
All I care about is no SBMM. I cannot stand playing COD for this long and have to play like I’m playing for a million dollars 🤷♂️
No sbmm doesn’t matter when the game isn’t good
@@robertadams1558 COD isn’t good. It’s just the McDonalds of FPS.
@@ghostraider4312 the mcdonalds of FPS still has better hit detection and fun gameplay compared to whatever this test is. no sbmm cant help a game if its fundamentals dont work
@@GRANDTHEFTBATO Sure… better hit detection 🙄. An experienced cod player know this is false. Idk maybe you’re just the average person that accepts crap over and over 🤷♂️
@@Nitroh- No thanks I don’t like playing lobbies full of bots. Defeats the purpose.