From a Mad NZ All Black Fan ....Well done Richard. People don't understand that the Haka is a challenge given and there is no disrespect in accepting that challenge. In fact We as New Zealander's often respect players that stand up to the Haka. The Haka is just our cultural way of starting every match and opponents are most welcome to express their emotions / culture as well. Hope this helps!!!! Big Jim - New Zealand.
Big Jim - New Zealand More people don’t do it because unlike you, most Kiwis literally cry if anyone does anything other than stand there still, looking scared. It’s virtually a diplomatic incident. In the ‘05 Lions tour O’Driscoll consulted Maori elders about how to face the Kiwi dance show, and he threw a blade of grass in the air to accept the challenge, as advised, and half of NZ had a fucking meltdown, even though what he was doing was culturally correct. If everyone is gonna be so precious about their stupid fucking dance they shouldn’t be allowed to do it.
I remember this it was awesome to see the players nose to nose. I wish they'd do this before every nz game. It's not a sign of disrespect like many people think. It is an acceptance of the challenge ahead.
What a brilliant piece of Rugby history. I was 10 years old at the time and remember the huge buzz around this game at the time. A defining moment in Rugby history. Chapeaux Richard Cockerill for showing real character
RIP Norm. Taken too soon. Condolences to his family and many friends. Kudos to Richard Cockerill for taking up the challenge back in ‘97. Good on ya mate. That’s what it’s all about.
We should have done a Morris dance in response :P In all seriousness though it was an epic moment, Cockers just accepted the challenge, too much was made of it after. Wish it was in better quality video though.
Why can't I find the full version of this? I know it's on Nans video tapes some where! Although she might of tapped over with a country calendar episode haha
This was brilliant! We love it when teams stand up and accept the challenge. The score on the other hand.........maybe Cockers should've kept quiet lol
Good on Cockerill. Why should teams have to put up with this institutionalised form of on field intimidation? England should be allowed to Morris dance in front of them while mock-assaulting 18 stone kiwis with a pig's bladder. That's English culture after all.
you clearly have no understanding nor respect for what the haka represents, each to our own beliefs but your outta line calling it and institutionalised form of intimidation. Let the English do their own haka/challenge. 9 years later many others are now doing their own. Problem is, they cant, its not in their culture, they are "British" after all and dont really have any culture other than a ruling monarch who rape every cent from the people (and young girls with Randy Andy who should be in prison) who walk around waving flags foolishly in love with their captors!
Why is the opposition even obliged to watch the Haka?? If NZ want to prance around doing their patronising post colonial nod to the subjugated locals prior to the game, then good luck to them. Why can't the opposition be throwing a ball around, warming up, or just be chilling in their changing room??
A Zander_HH All cultures have things that are important to them, they don't force people to watch them performing them before a sports game. You don't get the Brazilian football team doing a capoeira dance before the game and having a toddler tantrum if the other team don't stand there in awe. As I said, do it if they want but don't cry when the other team don't want to watch. The other team came to play rugby, not watch dancing.
Kristina T So what? It’s ridiculous. Why does the other team have to stand while the NZ do their dancing? Why can’t they do their thing? NZers are so precious about their stupid dance. As usual in rugby it’s one rule for NZ and another for the rest.
@@nick260682 it is a challenge similar to boxing weigh in and stare out. if you face the haka you have arrived now prove you are worthy, if you ignore it face away you are showing disrespect then you are saying you dont hear the words you needed to listen, if you advance the call then you declare war. in other words dont ignore it they will kick your ass with all intensity, face it or if you think you are more powerful then advance and bring your own challenge. usually if you ignore it they will triple their efforts and you, will, crumble. rugby is not a game it starts in the blood of the all blacks, if you are lucky you discover that they bleed, the next time you meet it might be in your blood.
OakTreelGaming No it's not- the Haka used to be done facing the crowd, (I'm talking 70's 80's, and as we will both agree, Rugby is, or should be a sport of tradition....). Since professionalism, it has been performed, as we both know, in the face of the opposition. Only the opposing team is not allowed any reply of any sort- I would say that is just not right. Fine work up your Haka, to fever pitch, intimidating as you wish, then do it to the crowd..... I don't think any, or hardly any effort would be wasted on it then, as so obviously much time and effort is under the present regime. I say again; Ban the Haka- or only allow it to be performed facing the spectators.
+OakTreelGaming Come on, in rugby terms it was introduced in the 80s by the marketing people. Yes, it's deeply ingrained in NZ culture, but banning it in rugby would not damage that culture - just as it wasn't damaged before the 80s
+flangie57 That would be a great shame. Anyone can perform a ritual if they like, just look at the other South Pacific sides with their hakas. I certainly think it contributes to the All Blacks' performance, but so what? If England had something similar they would be allowed to do it too
RIP Norm, sad to hear of his passing and will never forget this haka
And only 55 years old
From a Mad NZ All Black Fan ....Well done Richard.
People don't understand that the Haka is a challenge given and there is no disrespect in accepting that challenge. In fact We as New Zealander's often respect players that stand up to the Haka.
The Haka is just our cultural way of starting every match and opponents are most welcome to express their emotions / culture as well.
Hope this helps!!!!
Big Jim - New Zealand.
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Big Jim - New Zealand
More people don’t do it because unlike you, most Kiwis literally cry if anyone does anything other than stand there still, looking scared. It’s virtually a diplomatic incident.
In the ‘05 Lions tour O’Driscoll consulted Maori elders about how to face the Kiwi dance show, and he threw a blade of grass in the air to accept the challenge, as advised, and half of NZ had a fucking meltdown, even though what he was doing was culturally correct. If everyone is gonna be so precious about their stupid fucking dance they shouldn’t be allowed to do it.
I remember this it was awesome to see the players nose to nose. I wish they'd do this before every nz game. It's not a sign of disrespect like many people think. It is an acceptance of the challenge ahead.
It's a part of all sport and adds to the moment, as a Englishman I love to watch it,
@@DdraigGoch84 riym
What a brilliant piece of Rugby history. I was 10 years old at the time and remember the huge buzz around this game at the time. A defining moment in Rugby history. Chapeaux Richard Cockerill for showing real character
One warrior accepting the challenge, great stuff
England should de the David Brent dance.
Well done, more players should do this.
RIP Norm. Today we lost one of the good ones.
A true character of the game RIP Norm, condolences to his family
Good for you Richard! It all adds to the spice of the occasion!
RIP Norm. Taken too soon. Condolences to his family and many friends. Kudos to Richard Cockerill for taking up the challenge back in ‘97. Good on ya mate. That’s what it’s all about.
It was awesome and Big Norm loved it
England NZ 2019 world cup semi final - England won the Haka...
2019, England won both.
THE BEST! The Haka is a challenge that can be met with any challenge of respect. THAT was what you can do to challenge it.
"Cocker, what the fuck hav eyou done?!" LOL
RIP Norm Hewitt, a true gentleman!
RIP Norm Hewitt - fabulous iconic moment in rugby history
New Zealand media named him Cocky-Cockerill because of that 😆😆
Love the Haka keep it going guys you should be proud. Respect. Regards England UK
He came to my school today
Nothing wrong with accepting the challenge.
We should have done a Morris dance in response :P
In all seriousness though it was an epic moment, Cockers just accepted the challenge, too much was made of it after. Wish it was in better quality video though.
Rest in peace Norm.
Gosh so sorry to hear this. A family man gone too soon. A great All Black. RIP dear Norm 😢
norm hewitt u rock the stage.
Best answer to a challenge there is, isn't it?
Why can't I find the full version of this? I know it's on Nans video tapes some where! Although she might of tapped over with a country calendar episode haha
This was brilliant! We love it when teams stand up and accept the challenge.
The score on the other hand.........maybe Cockers should've kept quiet lol
why? it was a draw 26/26
Archie Rose Incorrect bro, ABs won this one 25-8. The 26-all draw was the following test at Twickenham.
Mat Kirk
Hello mate have you seen the v formation 😂
The Kiwi rugby team loved it I mean they offered out England who in turn said ok!
Morris Dance, would confuse the Kiwi's🤣
Anthony O Riordan Now that would send them running for the Car park 😱😱😱 O'Donnell Abu Abu went the war cry 🐎🐎
Tough alright Rich, .... love it
No fear, drop a gear, get the F outta here! RIP BIG NORM.
Imagine if this happened nowadays. The WOKE types would be in uproar.
Who won the game
And who won the match 🤣🤣🤣
Its embarrassing he is speaking about it after they got spanked ffs
Do that to Maa Nonu .... Maa wil slam him
It's a relatively recently added bit of nonsense. Eng should reply with a Morris dance...
for being respectful... okay then
hook vs hook
Engerland should have responded with a Morris Dance.
Mmm, and the folk that did the hilarious folk that is what you are implying conquered the world!
This is the first time I have seen someone think the same as I - probably not a recommendation.
Not sure why you think that, one is a war dance and the other is a light-hearted folk dance. Not really equivalent.
gwarn cockers
Good on Cockerill. Why should teams have to put up with this institutionalised form of on field intimidation? England should be allowed to Morris dance in front of them while mock-assaulting 18 stone kiwis with a pig's bladder. That's English culture after all.
you clearly have no understanding nor respect for what the haka represents, each to our own beliefs but your outta line calling it and institutionalised form of intimidation. Let the English do their own haka/challenge. 9 years later many others are now doing their own. Problem is, they cant, its not in their culture, they are "British" after all and dont really have any culture other than a ruling monarch who rape every cent from the people (and young girls with Randy Andy who should be in prison) who walk around waving flags foolishly in love with their captors!
Why is the opposition even obliged to watch the Haka?? If NZ want to prance around doing their patronising post colonial nod to the subjugated locals prior to the game, then good luck to them.
Why can't the opposition be throwing a ball around, warming up, or just be chilling in their changing room??
nick260682 because it's sacred, it's apart of our culture, did you even listen to Richard?
A Zander_HH
All cultures have things that are important to them, they don't force people to watch them performing them before a sports game.
You don't get the Brazilian football team doing a capoeira dance before the game and having a toddler tantrum if the other team don't stand there in awe.
As I said, do it if they want but don't cry when the other team don't want to watch. The other team came to play rugby, not watch dancing.
nick260682 the haka takes less than a minute for the AB’s to perform, fans will get to see 80 minutes of playing on the field. 🤦🏽♀️
Kristina T
So what? It’s ridiculous. Why does the other team have to stand while the NZ do their dancing? Why can’t they do their thing? NZers are so precious about their stupid dance. As usual in rugby it’s one rule for NZ and another for the rest.
@@nick260682 it is a challenge similar to boxing weigh in and stare out. if you face the haka you have arrived now prove you are worthy, if you ignore it face away you are showing disrespect then you are saying you dont hear the words you needed to listen, if you advance the call then you declare war.
in other words dont ignore it they will kick your ass with all intensity, face it or if you think you are more powerful then advance and bring your own challenge. usually if you ignore it they will triple their efforts and you, will, crumble. rugby is not a game it starts in the blood of the all blacks, if you are lucky you discover that they bleed, the next time you meet it might be in your blood.
All blacks lay down the challenge...We stud up to that and said bring the fucker on...ENGLAND TILL I DIE
Ban the Haka
Thats racist
OakTreelGaming
No it's not- the Haka used to be done facing the crowd, (I'm talking 70's 80's, and as we will both agree, Rugby is, or should be a sport of tradition....). Since professionalism, it has been performed, as we both know, in the face of the opposition. Only the opposing team is not allowed any reply of any sort- I would say that is just not right. Fine work up your Haka, to fever pitch, intimidating as you wish, then do it to the crowd..... I don't think any, or hardly any effort would be wasted on it then, as so obviously much time and effort is under the present regime. I say again; Ban the Haka- or only allow it to be performed facing the spectators.
flangie57 yeah but you know how many pissed off Maoris there will be. Many of us kiwis would be offended no matter what reason it was banned for.
+OakTreelGaming Come on, in rugby terms it was introduced in the 80s by the marketing people. Yes, it's deeply ingrained in NZ culture, but banning it in rugby would not damage that culture - just as it wasn't damaged before the 80s
+flangie57 That would be a great shame. Anyone can perform a ritual if they like, just look at the other South Pacific sides with their hakas. I certainly think it contributes to the All Blacks' performance, but so what? If England had something similar they would be allowed to do it too
Jack Campbell, shows you know nothing of the culture. So be quiet!
The haka is lame and played out. It's like line dancing the Macarena at a wedding.
RIP Norm Hewitt