@@maryjones0147 he doesn't make them up, he tells them in a different way, depending on what's suitable for the occasion. Although the 'I talk to all of them' is a proper lie. He hasn't spoken to Tony for eight years.
So, one thing lead 2 the other. Shirley and Martin and I got interested but had noooo idea that Spandau was so big. Looks like Ihad been living under a rock 😅😅😅
It wasn‘t Tony who announced ‚Virgin‘ at Live Aid, it was Gary. Martin is still not over the fact that Tony was more often on the cover of magazines than he was. He‘s just as obsessed with him as his big brother is. Poor lads.
Tony Hadley has one of the greatest and strongest vocals I've heard loved the band singing gold but Martin you need to say sorry to Tony Hadley for the slagging of him not just you your brother Gary as well because life is to short at the end of the day so shift your ass and make amends
Too bad Elms didn't talk to him about this.... There was verbal abuse, too. “If you imagine five boys in the playground, there’s always going to be one guy that’s going to take the brunt of the jokes.” In Spandau Ballet, Kemp says, that guy was the lead singer, Tony Hadley. In the book Kemp does say the behaviour “tipped over into bullying” - “but he took all the banter. I can look back at it now with space. And I don’t like the way that we used to group up on Tony, and I feel guilty about that … If it was me, I think it would have been too much for me. “It was mainly singer envy,” he says “If you asked Tony about it, he might not even say he recognised it. But I recognise it. And there was part of me that recognised it at the time.” Has he said any of this to Hadley, who has always refused to explain publicly why he left the band in 2017? “It’s something that I’d never spoken to him about. But I do feel guilty when I look back.” In the book, Kemp stops short of an apology. “Oh, listen,” he says immediately. “I would apologise to Tony, absolutely, for the way that he was treated. I think it was really poor.” Why doesn’t he pick up the phone and say all this to Hadley? He really sounds as if he wants to. But he says: “I haven’t spoken to Tony for ages. I reach out to him, but I rarely hear back. I send little messages” - he mimes texting - “if I get two words back, I’m happy. “Tony is lovely,” he says. “He is a lovely man. I will always, always love him, in the same way I love all the rest of the band. But you drift apart, don’t you?”
Gary Kemp always thought he was the leader of the band, the creator of the band, the songwriter of the band etc. etc. but he was merely sum of its parts. The bullying was evident and came to light in the Soul Boys movie during the shooting of the ‘Raw’ video in 1988. Nearly 30 years on, that pecking order or hierarchy still appeared evident as whatever ultimatum was issued or disagreement ensued saw Tony leave the band in 2017. Gary and Tony always had that friction between them but I thought the passing of time and maturity after reforming in 2009 would override their differences. He has kept a dignified silence as to the reason why Tony had to leave. Whatever the reason was, perhaps one day it will be revealed but as I reach 40 years this year as a die hard fan, I’m just glad I got to see them in 2009 and 2010 as a second reunion looks distinctly remote.
Gary is a fine songwriter and is responsible for some of the very best songs of all time, True, Gold, Barricades and Fly for you are Indeed classics but Tony Hadley's singing was the outstanding instrument of the group. Martin Kemp is a very good actor but an average Bass player, he was only brought in because of his looks.
Yeez, is it that hard to tell the truth Martin? You’re not ‘talking to everybody’. You haven’t spoken to Tony in eight years. And he didn’t walk out on the last tour. He said he didn’t want to do it anymore AFTER the tour. And bringing Ross to the band was your idea, wasn’t it? He was so fantastic, he was like a brother to you. And it was much better performing with Ross than it had ever been with Tony (after you kicked him out, you said you would always love Tony as a brother 😬I’m just glad you’re not my brother 😒).
Without a doubt, the 80s were fabulous.
Superb conversation Martin & Robert xx
brilliant!
Handsome chap 🥰
Good, insightful interview; sold the book to me on the back of this discussion - thanks for uploading.
Im pretty sure that Robert Elms was in a relationship with Sade around this time in the early 80's. There's hope for all of us.
Love love Martin! So down to earth guy. And with Shirley! Lucky girl. She is married to an icon and was part of Wham. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Would be good if he told the truth every now and then.
@@j.schermer3523 you mean he makes up some events?
@@maryjones0147 he doesn't make them up, he tells them in a different way, depending on what's suitable for the occasion. Although the 'I talk to all of them' is a proper lie. He hasn't spoken to Tony for eight years.
@@j.schermer3523 ohhh I had no idea.
I remember Spandau just 4 True
I' m a Beatles fan and the cover George Michael did of long and... is superb
So, one thing lead 2 the other. Shirley and Martin and I got interested but had noooo idea that Spandau was so big.
Looks like Ihad been living under a rock 😅😅😅
It wasn‘t Tony who announced ‚Virgin‘ at Live Aid, it was Gary. Martin is still not over the fact that Tony was more often on the cover of magazines than he was. He‘s just as obsessed with him as his big brother is. Poor lads.
Tony Hadley has one of the greatest and strongest vocals I've heard loved the band singing gold but Martin you need to say sorry to Tony Hadley for the slagging of him not just you your brother Gary as well because life is to short at the end of the day so shift your ass and make amends
Too bad Elms didn't talk to him about this.... There was verbal abuse, too. “If you imagine five boys in the playground, there’s always going to be one guy that’s going to take the brunt of the jokes.” In Spandau Ballet, Kemp says, that guy was the lead singer, Tony Hadley.
In the book Kemp does say the behaviour “tipped over into bullying” - “but he took all the banter. I can look back at it now with space. And I don’t like the way that we used to group up on Tony, and I feel guilty about that … If it was me, I think it would have been too much for me.
“It was mainly singer envy,” he says “If you asked Tony about it, he might not even say he recognised it. But I recognise it. And there was part of me that recognised it at the time.”
Has he said any of this to Hadley, who has always refused to explain publicly why he left the band in 2017? “It’s something that I’d never spoken to him about. But I do feel guilty when I look back.”
In the book, Kemp stops short of an apology. “Oh, listen,” he says immediately. “I would apologise to Tony, absolutely, for the way that he was treated. I think it was really poor.”
Why doesn’t he pick up the phone and say all this to Hadley? He really sounds as if he wants to. But he says: “I haven’t spoken to Tony for ages. I reach out to him, but I rarely hear back. I send little messages” - he mimes texting - “if I get two words back, I’m happy.
“Tony is lovely,” he says. “He is a lovely man. I will always, always love him, in the same way I love all the rest of the band. But you drift apart, don’t you?”
Gary Kemp always thought he was the leader of the band, the creator of the band, the songwriter of the band etc. etc. but he was merely sum of its parts. The bullying was evident and came to light in the Soul Boys movie during the shooting of the ‘Raw’ video in 1988. Nearly 30 years on, that pecking order or hierarchy still appeared evident as whatever ultimatum was issued or disagreement ensued saw Tony leave the band in 2017. Gary and Tony always had that friction between them but I thought the passing of time and maturity after reforming in 2009 would override their differences. He has kept a dignified silence as to the reason why Tony had to leave. Whatever the reason was, perhaps one day it will be revealed but as I reach 40 years this year as a die hard fan, I’m just glad I got to see them in 2009 and 2010 as a second reunion looks distinctly remote.
Gary is a fine songwriter and is responsible for some of the very best songs of all time, True, Gold, Barricades and Fly for you are Indeed classics but Tony Hadley's singing was the outstanding instrument of the group. Martin Kemp is a very good actor but an average Bass player, he was only brought in because of his looks.
Yeez, is it that hard to tell the truth Martin? You’re not ‘talking to everybody’. You haven’t spoken to Tony in eight years. And he didn’t walk out on the last tour. He said he didn’t want to do it anymore AFTER the tour. And bringing Ross to the band was your idea, wasn’t it? He was so fantastic, he was like a brother to you. And it was much better performing with Ross than it had ever been with Tony (after you kicked him out, you said you would always love Tony as a brother 😬I’m just glad you’re not my brother 😒).