Thank you to both Lue and Sean for their generosity and their service. I still can hardly believe I'm lucky enough to speak to Sean for 3h, and to Lue for perhaps 7h (total). A special thank you to Lue who spent some of his time with me on a day his daughter was getting married. Truly, once more... Thank you, both.
Both of the guests are humble, honest, straightforward, willing to help and matured. Hopefully the public will appreciate and understand their message,… They do not wait for benefits like most of the others, by saying buy my book, …. I understand that many prefer being abused, subordinate, .... but of course not all humans are the same. they do not show off, they only want to help the public for free, for the sake of humanity, their time is precious too, they have families and friends to spend their time with,…. They endanger themselves for the sake of the public, one of them if he slip and says any classified information then he will get himself into troubles, why? It is for the public “Humanity”, listen to their advises: understand yourself and your responsibilities, ……probably this is the best Video on thje internet and must reach all mankind, forget about UAP that is not the point, just listen carefully to their valuable message. Be proud of them.
Thank you Lue, Sean and Curt for another great conversation! Curt, you are nowhere near a failure and are doing such a great job at approaching this topic and helping spread this knowledge to the masses. Stay true to being who you are and don't let the negativity or vitriol affect you in anyway. The closer you are to Universal Truth, the more arrows that will be slung your way. With Love, Truth and Knowledge as your shield, nothing can harm you. Thanks again for the insight gentlemen 🙏
I believe it's becoming clearer that the source of this phenomenon is caused by a Universal Life Force or Energy that we have many labels for such as, God, Consciousness, Spirit, Ether, Love, Thought or many others. They are all describing the same Force or Energy or even Frequency that is behind it all. Science can't explain it and our simple minds can't process it but somehow we are all connected to it or little pieces of it reside in us. That's my opinion at least
Thank you so much for re-releasing the talk. I was so disappointed last week that I had missed it. Many thanks to Lue for his tireless work in pursuing disclosure.
Curt, as a former journalist and a current PhD candidate, I know something about research and about interviewing. I have to tell you you're doing such a great job. it broke my heart when you were so hard on yourself. I just want take a moment to encourage you. I've had to justify studying and writing about UFOs and extraterrestrials at the university level to professors and administrators, so I can relate a bit to what you're going through in terms of feeling like you have to justify yourself to a larger audience, that your integrity is questioned, and even your sanity is called into doubt. I can't say ignore it, Curt, because it's impossible to do, but what I can say is that most of the criticism and most of the negative comments are going to be horseshit --- pure and simple. I would splice together Lue and Sean's encouragement to you and put it on replay whenever you're feeling down about yourself or your work. So far the UAP community has left us academics of today out of the conversation, which is to their loss. But you've got a voice, a great show, and you should be so proud of what you've accomplished and be excited about the things to come and not about the transient bullshit people send your way. Head up, friend. Press on.
One of the best interviewers (my opinion, obv) is lifelong broadcaster Leo Laporte. Look for Leo Laporte on the Triangulation series with Bill Atkinson. Just like a great photographer incorporates personality and mood into a portrait, a great interviewer delivers the personality and perspective of the interviewee from and into the discussion.
This is the 2nd time I have listened to this conversation, and I will probably come back to it again since this touched my heart and soul so deep. This is one of the best and most important conversations I've heard in years 👍 When you all opened your heart...oh, wow... ❤
Hey Curt, I have spent a few years listening UFO podcasts. I also listen to all sorts of podcasts of various topics. Your channel is very underrated and deserves more subscribers. Nobody has tackled the UFO podcasting like you have where you drill down smart and well thought-out questions in detail. There is literally no other channel like yours, you are doing a great service to the topic. Please keep doing what you do and keep exploring the UAP topic. My only advice is to be more careful with some of your audience. Sometimes, majority does not mean good.
Easily my new favorite! I listen to most everything too but his take is the best, even going so far as to add footnotes for additional reading material on subjects that were addressed! My kind of man!
Seriously, most interviews come from a beginners pov, this channel is definetly for those who are the tip of emerging info and those that are open to really any possibility, even if it turns out its just military black projects.
You guys rock ! I love the fact that you are involved in the complex of uap and all it involves. Its a subject that can break a person down.....confuse and want to say f it. Its this way or that way.
Curt once again, deserves the highest respect for his honesty and earnestness as he tries to explore this difficult subject matter. Thanks Curt! We appreciate your efforts immensely.
Well said, Christopher. I am shocked by Lou. 3+hrs of "figure it out yourself, because we're tired and "saturated". This from a combat vet? Who does that flag stand for anyway, Lou. You? Your buddies? Talk to me about "honor" Mr. Apple juice.
@@vettevegas8549 Lue is part of a controlled disclosure that’s being done in conjunction with a rollout of the Space Force ((and an expansion of private industry into the eventuality of space exploration- they will encounter UAPs in higher numbers)).
Lou's advice to just turn around and be with your loved ones is bang on. I've seen people go down the rabbit hole and isolate themselves from their friends and family, or simply forget how beautiful it is to stop and smell the flowers. There is so much to appreciate in this existence, that without it there is no point to this human experience. I know it can be overwhelming to think about what the phenomena may be and how it would change the world if we had answers, but you would still be human in the end.. and if any answers are coming, they will get here when they get here.
Lou's really only good for smelling the flowers. If there is 1 single thing, he has ever educated us or on, that wasn't already researched, explored, or observed by someone else before him, let me know.
Okay sure let’s just sit back and enjoy our families and let the New world order advance it’s agenda of De-population.. until all of our loved ones are gone.. and if you don’t believe there is a plan to de-populate the earth then keep believing the Government wants the best for you and your family.
Let me explain how I interpreted this podcast. Seeing the thumbnail I already had a sort of preconceived notion of what to expect. I have heard Lou speak several times. The way that Lou sort of "burst my bubble" and went after the specific types of questions that he thinks are nonsensical wasn't "easy" to hear, mostly because I have many of the same questions, but it was beneficial to hear and did force me to think of this entire subject differently. That is the most important topic that is covered extensively in this podcast. The parallel to this realization is the fact that we need to change the way that we view UAPs and this topic in general. I was falling into this same mindset where I was looking for Lou to tell me what to do or how to feel about this topic. Lou is right, if you want entertainment or self fulfilled prophecy then you can sift through the last 50+ years of "information." If you want data and facts and then wish to make an informed decision and come to your own conclusions then Lou is your guy. Another great point was if you do not have your own personal business and mental state and relationships in order then you really can't even begin to ask the right questions or understand the "meaning" of the UAP phenomenon. Well done. Let's work together and all try to advance this topic together without bias or hatred and embrace each other and our collective experience with love and acceptance. Thank you.
Wow Luis is good I tell you, he has a bunch of people buying his BS. I did for a minute when I first found out about him earlier this year then after I kept listening it became obvious he was a charlatan. Dig into his past and how he got to this point and it becomes even more obvious this man is it for the money.
PLEASE do not give up on this topic from a rational, fact-based, scientific perspective. Each one of us can only do what we do (you, me, Lue, every individual out there). Regardless of those who only want to see drama, there is a quiet, dedicated core of people who care about the pursuit more than where it leads us. As long as that is kept in mind, there is great benefit to doing what you do.
I'm so enjoying this podcast...I'm not surprised that everyone in these comments have nothing bad to say. That should tell you how much people think of you and your and your podcast.
Curt, I've been here since the beginning of your podcast and in that time you've changed my life with the topics you've investigated, and the seriousness and passion you display is why. Thank you for doing this. You're the man.
I can confidently say I’m a person that’s NOT interested in drama, mud-slinging or the he-said she-said of the UFO phenomenon. I’m here for the discussion and gaining more knowledge about the topic that I have given my life to since December 2017. Thank you Curt, Lue and Sean for keeping it real 👍
How have you not noticed for all the supposed mud slinging he is against he likes to fling as much mud as anyone? Lue is operation gaslight; until he puts up he should shut up.
@@PlayMoreLoud well since 2017 he’s moved the conversation ahead light years compared to where it was for the last century. If that’s not good enough for you, or if you’re personally hurt by something he’s said then I don’t know what to say 🤷🏻
@@PlayMoreLoud I get it. You want more well so do I. It can be frustrating because these guys know more than they can say. And no, I’m not 100% in on Lue either. But if you can’t see the progress that’s been made, with him leading the way then your blind or uninformed.
I am not sure I liked Sean Cahill in this interview and I think he made Lue a little different than the previous two interviews. I totally get they are beaten down and calloused by the bad guys but you cant lump the genuine people in with the bad when you respond. There are truly those of us that care and want to help but just do not know how. I think what Sean needs to remember is that YES what they think does matter to people because they know things we do not. So when regular people sit back and listen to this, we dont know the facts they do. Knowing they arent going to tell us the facts only leaves us asking what they think about things. This is a lot and it is daunting but they are in a different place than the rest of us. I get so many people annoy them but there are a lot that just truly want to understand and in no way annoy them. You did a great job Curt, you always do. Thank you for this!!
I agree. It’s so vague it actually IS a cause for concern. Like we literally really are up against an existential threat. Turn to your loved ones sounds like something you’d say if there was a nuke coming in from Russia tomorrow. WTF. What are we talking about at this point!!
Amazing series and the format is perfect, thank you on behalf of everyone for covering this topic. The only issue I had with some answers, for example ‘we should learn everything we can about the moon’ or ‘our opinions don’t matter’. The underlying issue is facts/knowledge that is being withheld for various reasons (some which are truly valid). Both of their opinions do matter because they’re far more informed than anyone else watching and so are those who may have access to conclusive information about the moon that the public isnt, that’s why we are wanting to hear from both guests in the first place. We are very grateful for your efforts, Curt!
Curt..you are an amazingly natural and genuine interviewer. The way you handled this episode was outstanding and really learning a lot from you...not sure I could hold my shape like you did..you are leading the way...a new way for a lot of us...!!!
This episode got me teary-eyed near the end when Lue and Sean gave such deep advice to Curt about how recognizing one's own weaknesses and being determined to fix them is actually a strength. Honestly I initially watched this for my scientific and existential curiosity as usual, but I ended up with unexpected spiritual rejuvenation. I hope and pray all of us stay on the path of constantly improving our character and relationships with ourselves and loved ones. I feel so grateful for watching this episode and getting access to the advice of these wise men. Thank you so much for all your time and effort Curt, Lue, and Sean.
Just posted similar comment regarding the poignant value in such amazing minds showing us a sense of equal mental struggles with emotional interpretation of common criticism
I struggle to get teary eyed over a CIA counter-intelligence officer, especially one still involved in counter-intelligence, which is what all this is about
@@DAVIDE-bk8by You think Lue is doing this for counter-intellingence? Or are you also talking about Sean? I don't know much about Sean--if you're talking about him where did you get your info to come to that conclusion? Also, I struggle to understand why Lue would be out tarnishing his reputation by investigating this subject all for counter-intellingence, especially when honestly, the guy isn't really even famous at all outside of the niche UFO community. If his job is spreading counter intelligence, he's doing a pretty bad job then. Because he's really not that popular at all with the general Western public and plenty of people don't take him seriously. If counter intelligence were so important shouldn't they have more government guys like Lue out there heavily promoting the narrative? But most people seem reluctant to even entertain the topic for fear of their reputations. So I wonder why you believe this is all about counter-intellingence.
@Bob Smith on top of this, an actual guru, dropped better info on aliens then any of these guys could even understand.listen to Sadhguru on joe Rogan, oh also this guy is filled with life and definitely doesn’t have a long face all the time, from too much pressure and work, even though he has more pressure in his life than both these guys
Curt....It hurts inside when you tell how you feel about what to do or not do....because you are so good at what you do!!! I just need to say: to me,- you have one of the very best channels on the whole RUclips!!!! You are so intelligent, so repectful, so wanting to learn and understand, so serious, and so knowledgeable.....and I really admire what you do and the way you do it!!🙂☀️🌼
I found your questions and superchat questions to be excellent and interesting and echoed a lot of my own. I understand it can be frustrating for people like Luis & Sean,but I think they need to think of us all like students. Just because the first year of students asks a question doesn’t mean the next year the new wave of students should know that info…they’re human, they sounded a little cranky, haha, but if people have the questions it means they don’t have the answers yet even if Luis and Sean feel like they have answered it a million times already. You were great and exceedingly patient with your guests and it was interesting. Looking forward to watching others.
Agree completely, Sean came off as downright rude and disrespectful. He shouldnt project his frustration onto the audience just because we dont know everything he knows.
Simply sending support, in regard to the last few minutes of this episode. As a viewer and fan, it's a net positive, because the content you put out is consistently the most thoughtful, well-rounded, investigative, and compassionate content out there ... and those qualities are rare, and to be valued. So, thank you for your contributions to these topics!
Agreed! I appreciate the educated and rational discussions around a very controversial topic. I honestly have a deep love for trying to discover a theory of everything but did not know about your podcast before this subject matter appeared on it. I am now a consistent viewer for all subjects you speak on, but this one in particular is so hard to find educated free form discussions on the topic and viewpoints from so many people with different backgrounds. As you've said before, I feel the answer will come from the fringe, but in that, we need to be able to discuss anything and everything and look at it all from multiple viewpoints.
Im sorry but the whole......" You need to find your own answers is a crock of shit especially coming from a person who has the truth we are seeking. So quit dropping the i cant tell you what to do narrative. It's so condescending. Smh"
Aw, Curt, you are great. The online world is full of armchair critics who come out of the blue and demand that you be accountable to them without bothering to earn your trust or respect. I really respect everyone on this podcast for refusing to engage in drama and entertainment and speculation and stick to a more sober, reasonable track. As a newcomer to the world of UAP, I appreciate your sincerity, humility and candor.
Just wanted to say a huge thank you to Lou, Sean and Curt for this interview and in particular to Lou for taking this time in such an important day for him. Your commitment to this subject and in turn humanity’s need to understand this! Words are not enough to express this. Thanks!!
Curt you are by far the best podcaster I am aware of. Your interview style and questions are excellent, but what I think sets you apart is just how above-and-beyond you go for your viewers. The timestamps and resources you provide in the description being the best example. Keep up the good work!
Curt, I could listen to you talk about a fly walking up a wall for three hours. I’m with you, I’m barracking for you. Travelling down the TOE road with you has been an uplifting and expanding time of my life. I appreciate you.
I watched all 3 parts of this interview over the past two days, and I have to say it’s been the most interesting and introspective interview I’ve ever seen. You are a phenomenal interviewer, and Lue and Shawn have been phenomenal guests. The conversation was at all times respectful, including the pushbacks, and it was clear that your only agenda was to get information, whatever it may be, out. The last hour was particularly insightful, and I’m sure will give many pause to reflect on the big picture of who we, as individuals and as a species, are. Thanks to you, Shawn, and Lue for such an enlightening, thought-provoking conversation. As with yourself, Curt, I will be mulling this over for some time, and look forward to it.
I want to say thank you, for all the sacrifices all three of you have made. There are so many of us here (quietly) listening and learning appreciatively and (hopefully) In time the ignorant faction will naturally precipitate out of this solution, and the waters of this conversation start to become clear.
I have to say this was a bit painful to watch. I expected a meaningful conversation, but sounded as if we were scolded for not doing our homework due to not understanding the assignment. Keep up the good work Curt, you are doing your best, not your fault.
Yeah I got that feeling too. I'm sorry for not having their knowledge, training or the means to do similar work. If Sean would rather be spending his time doing the work he shouldn't agree to be a guest on a podcast!
@@vanenmar7491 that's right these two guests really pissed me off acting like they're so important and they have to keep their secrets to themselves insinuating it was a waste of time talking to us little people
I agree. I could spend all my time complaining and going completely off the topic. Or I could perhaps just listen to the question and answer it without whinging and whining. Often they completely forgot what they were being asked.
Lou and Sean; we are a very large community who support you and follow your efforts to bring clarity to the subject. Your approach is the only approach that has really brought any kind of facts to the table as well as official acknowledgement. Maybe we are not as loud as the haters but we are here. I can not speak for everyone but I for one hope that you will keep doing what you are doing - and keep giving interviews, they are always interesting and enlightening. Thank you for everything so far, looking forward to what will come, whatever it will be.
These are the conversations that need to be had! All 3 of you have shown what humanity is capable of instead of bickering, fighting and focusing on the differences. We all need to have productive chats like this instead of name calling and blaming. Life and reality is all about perspectives. Finding out what other perspectives are and seeing where they're coming from is the first step in creating solutions for ALL the world's problems. Great job guys!
It is only through critical analysis and evidence-based investigations that we can separate fact from fiction and unravel the mysteries that surround us, continue the great work Kurt!
So i imagine this was not the intention, but listening through this podcast made me feel like i was being mob-beaten in a dark alley for something i didn't do... - all i came here for was some insight into UAPs / USOs / Extradimensional-Paranormal manifestation... - like a few others out there, i look up to Lue Elizondo and look forward to every one of his media interventions (but certainly not that other guy whose name i've already forgotten and who seems to think he's super famous and important) and my goodness i'm always giddy happy to get even some of Lue's more cryptic answers, they just inspire you to believe and open your mind a little with every minute clue he lets slip through - instead, i get told by the people whose answers i'm eagerly awaiting (not *demanding* from them, just earnestly awaiting with an almost childish enthusiasm) - i get told by them that they have better things to do than to explain to me all those important matters i don't seem to understand - not only that, but i feel like i've indirectly contributed to making the host's life miserable... Honestly at this stage i'm starting to feel like Lue and the other nameless guy should probably go back to doing whatever they're trying to do at the moment (getting congress to release info or whatever) and stop coming on podcasts... because what's the point of doing those if they won't show a bit of restraint in front of an audience, while at the same time professing universal love and the need for some sort of a planetary consciousness to arise? If those angry men are the apostle of such a lofty change, then i can tell we're already in trouble
This was a beat down because of the Linda Moulton Howe interview. Curt took his lumps. But the boys didn't do a good job, they should have practiced or drank more beer before the interview.
As Lue said the loudest voices are in reality the minority. Kurt you are doing a fantastic job with these podcasts, to me and the people I know that watches your videos, you come forward as a honest, sincere and genuine content creator, I've not seen a single incident where I would think otherwise. There have been miscommunications for sure but those are to be expected. Keep doing what you do, and know that you can do thing in your own way and own pace. Do what you find interesting, because if you are genuinely interested in what you do that interest will transfer to your viewers.
I usually almost never make comments about anything anywhere because of a lot of different reasons (some of them pin pointed by you guys in this very episode). But I just have to say this: What an amazing episode this truly is in almost every aspect! I sincerely enjoyed every single minute of your conversation! 3 hours of my life with enrichment (is that a legit word btw?🤔) Thank you so much for this! All three of you! I even wrote down a quote from this episode, made by Mr. Elizondo: "There's a lot of damaged units out there" It made me laugh so hard that my eyes went all moist😆 Anyway keep up the good fight🤘🫶👊
Maybe you were learning things from this episode buddy but most of us know this information and it was sad and patronizing to hear this armchair philosophy.
100% they're not understanding people they have their agenda their criteria and what their dope and receptors are set for, they chase things that are what they want to hear not what's actually going on, it's amazing to me that people aren't understanding this, maybe they understand it but they don't want to because they're not getting their dopamine fix
I'm very open minded, but as a subject for discussion its getting too repetitive. Especially no substance or evidence its drying up and even the guests sound tired of what they are talking about.
Not really what I was expecting but I stayed until the end. Thank you all three for your time. I look forward to the time when Lue can divulge more. Don’t be discouraged by those who point the finger to condemn & pick holes. The paranormal is a fascinating subject as well as UFO’s/UAP’s & I hope you continue to find guests Curt to talk about these
Thank you Curt🙏 For me this was a really constructive and interesting conversation. The initial premise about having a foundational understanding of yourself and what is meaningful and important to existence itself and the contextual frame that humanity brings to that in the human experience is absolutely fundamental to approaching the topic of UAP. The content of the conversation then went on to example why that actually is. Humanity needs to rise to the challenge of self awareness on a personal and collective basis. It’s quite possible that UAP is the challenge humanity needs in order for us to progress in this way.
Lue, the reason that we tune into these podcasts is that it's the only place we can get straight talk with regard to the phenomenon. By not doing these podcasts, we are only left with the charlatans. We can understand your frustration, but we are generally incapable of performing the research that you are doing. Love you guys.
Sorry That's totally bogus Loads of good UFO sources. All this putting people on pedestal... & The info that people connected with the Government won't tell you That you paid for... Like the Government done such a good job protecting its People🤦♀️
Well said. Unfortunately people like myself are tied up with "normal life" stuff. Kids, events, work, family issues and situations, etc etc... I personally rely on these type of people for research and the journey to the truth. I have formed my own opinion on all aspects of what has been presented since 2017. I feel the genuine sincerness of what these people are trying to accomplish is admirable and very much respected to folks like me. Normal civilians wanting to pursuit the truth, but are held back by our personal lives and possibly even financial stability issues. I believe these people are the pioneers to the new era of this topic. In which this topic can be talked about seriously and without the stigma attached to it. They are in my opinion, heros in many ways. I honestly appreciate their time and sacrifice to this topic and hope they can strive to carry on the good fight for folk like me. Thank you very much Mr. Elizondo and company, for your dedication and sacrifice for the truth. To quote a cheap joke from Wayne's World, "We're not worthy. We're not worthy. We're not worthy....". Lol
I can't take Lou seriously. He is clearly using his career and the massive curiosity around so called UFOlogy to promote himself while pretending to complain about the very attention he manifested. Everything he says is contradictory. Pretends to know incredible shocking information, but also doesn't know anything. Why are these two guys constantly promoting themselves and their alleged secret information if it's such a burden? Promotes disclosure, but discloses nothing.
@@gd3551 you do know what a nda is right if he shares everything he knows knowing he signed a nda and gets prison time then what also what has he said that's contradicting
@@jamaljewell425 So what? A bit of a strawman. Lou's entire message is that humanity deserves the truth and something made him "somber". So either he has something to share for humanity or he's a charlatan selling a tour and publishing. Don't come at me with fanboy admiration for a man you don't know. If he has secret info that can imprison him, why is he promoting it???
To Lue's point on heightened senses. I went to college for recording engineering with a kid that was blind. One day I was walking toward class by myself and he called out my name. I hadn't said a word or given any noticeable cue that I was present. I was shocked and asked how he knew it was me... He said he knew by the sound of my shoes, and the pace of my walk. Blew my mind.
Y’all are all doing what you do for millions of us. Without going too deep, you’re doing what many of us need, info-wise, to keep moving forward on different levels. We all have our role to play & none get played without the other. ✌️
Mr. Jaimungal is an enthusiastic and intelligent interviewer and I really enjoy his channel. However, I find this particular show insulting. The two guests are highly evasive and defensive. Beware of people who come to you with “special knowledge” (classified data, messages from an alien or angel or whatever, etc.) that they cannot actually divulge to you because a) this is not the right time, b) it will be revealed when you pay money, c) they have an NDA, or some other excuse. Then their extremely lengthy complaining about people who they find disrespectful to their message is way over the top. Come on, man!
As always, thank you Kurt, and thank you to Lue and Sean. Regardless of where one stands in this debate at the very least, I hope all can appreciate your spiritual and philosophical take on everything. Thank you.
Thank you all three, Lue, Sean and Curt ! For trying to come out to discuss this - there are not many in society who were brave enough to come forward in this subject. Many appreciate the sound conversation!
I have been following Luis for quite some time and the narrative is the same. I believe he's said all he needs to say. I wish him well into the future. Im certain his head is heavy with this knowledge and lets not forget, he too needs to do what he has to to live with what he knows which also includes enjoying his life with his family. Thank you Curt, you have done very well. Don't be discouraged, through adversity one gains knowledge, power, and courage to face it.
It's hard carrying the weight of the information hidden from civilians ; I've known for a couple of months. Believe it or not, it is life changing ;in every possible way. Imagine everything you were taught by school or church was a lie? Then add a pinch of ghosts , cryptids, aliens, time travel and the mutiverse are all connected . Raise your consciousness or be left in the dust.
Lou Elizondo is a patriot. He has very interesting things to say. However, he says nothing new. Always I can't reveal classified info. Yet he does interview after interview. With nothing new to offer. Just teases. Edit. Constant interviews about the same thing suggests that he has an agenda. Maybe its not his agenda. If the gov wishes to spread their narrative about ufos, who better to use a VERY respected well spoken convincing patriot who led the ufo investigation, has the appearance of standing up for the people by resigning and disagreeing with the gov, to make us believe what they want us to.
02:26:05 "If [commenters, aka amateurs] really want to help the conversation, then have a conversation with us" - that would be fantastic, if Lue & Sean would actually converse with us. They simply wont answer provided questions, or reveal anything. They spent too much time being critical of folks proposing ideas (that are admittedly based on a lack of info) or simply asking relevant questions. This is a frustrating conversation, and Im not sure what to think. Im a big admirer of Lue and Sean for their work, disclosures, and for publicising this debate, but their aggressive push back, and lack of real debate or answers is worrying me. You are doing a great job Curt, providing a great platform to add to the debate, and this particular chat helps a lot, even if it leaves a negative feeling within me personally. Just please dont ask guests to drink again, especially for a UFO-related podcast. It just takes away from the debate so much. PS, I dont believe Lue had apple juice, from his appearance and mannerisms, but I have no way of knowing.
They had me fooled when I first started listening earlier this year but after digging into them, realizing how much they talk in circles and then this interview it’s pretty obvious they’re playing everyone.
Thank you Curt, big fan man, truly. And thank you for speaking out freely about the difficulties you are facing, this kind of enterprise in the public eye demands courage and thick skin as you said. The conversation you had the 3 of you on this topic made me realize a lot of things, and I deeply thank you for that. Please continue the great work, and if you happen to take a step back from all this to preserve yourself, we will understand. Be happy brother, and be well.
I thought this interview was impossible to listen too. Hug your kids? Treat your family right? I appreciate Lue for hours efforts but he could answer questions in half as many words. I lost interest about halfway.
I've been following the UFO subject since the mid 90's. Please don't stop this subject because of toxic people, they're everywhere and in every subject.
I think the most toxic aren't even real. Similar to the cpp's 50 cent army, who ate paid to troll the web and praise everything ccp I'm a positive light there is an army of paid trolls (including computer programs) that do nothing but target certain subjects and individuals.
Thank you Curt for facilitating this and to Sean and Lue for your time and effort. There is a clear level of consensus reality here and it pleases me. Let me get the next round of apple juice, I wish you all the best.
This is one of the most important UAP conversations that I have listened to. This is because I am beginning to emotionally internalise the fact that an array of UAP phenomena are actually real. I am not sure how to feel about that and am only beginning to sense its huge implications. It's great to be reminded from you and the two old warriors to start from the 'beginning place' aka 'the hearth'. I begin to see how these phenomena may bring together the many, valid, ways of seeing the world, from the scientific to second sight. Strike on! and think well of yourself my friend.
What is going on? People have questions and these guys freak out, they get angry about people learning from books, and then they go on to speculate about things like nukes and UFOs based on a book. I don't really get what thier point is, thier answers seem evasive rambling non responsive,, and I agree with them,, maybe they are just spent and should move on.
Want to know how well your channel is doing Curt(other than subscribers, votes, etc)? People are trying to discredit you or tear you down. No matter the topic or how many positive things you promote people will be at the ready to tear you down. No need for clarifications or corrections. You said you made this channel because you were curious. You're doing great. Getting questions answered as well making us think about things we hadn't thought of. This was a great video! Keep it up!
I hear nothing but truth and sincerity from both of these men. People constantly bash these claims from government officials.. without even listening to credible sources like these guys.
Curt, you are so adept at reframing things and being sure they are understood in their proper context. Or in the times you can't, you ask the right questions to get us there.
Kurt - The best bit about this episode was seeing you open up, and then that epic smile you let out when Elizondo made you feel better. Not enough of that in the world today. Seeing that shit made my day - and still is now... No all faith in humanity is lost after all.
This 3 part series is among the best I've seen. Great job to all of you! Everybody was very level headed, respectful, and thoughtful. Great pool of questions as well and I love how you guys don't just come crashing down on some of the more out-there questions like many podcasts will do. We live in a crazy universe that we barely understand so it's ok to say "I don't know". Chronologically speaking we've barely even gotten started. So let's keep putting our minds together and see if we can make sense of things without pulling each other back into the trenches of ignorance. I'm officially subscribing. Thanks guys!
Being prepared to search for the truth and make sense of this world requires the vulnerability you display....painful but brutality honest...keep doing you, this channel is amazing with amazing guests and conversations. Know that you are doing an amazing ing job and your channel deserves to grow. Peace..Love and Light truth bringer 👍🏾
I just realized that Curt's show doesn't use any sort of "intro music" or other soundtrack distractions. That's wonderful. I'm beginning to recognize that the louder the theme music, the weaker the content of the program. Less is so much more here. Thanks Curt!
Anyone else notice that Lou and Sean are in the same location? Are they meant to be portrayed as being in different locations? Each is sitting in a setting which I would say is meant to look like their home. When Lou went to the bathroom you could see him in the mirror behind Sean. I thought that was weird.
Just some criticism: Maybe stop talking about the haters for so long. Its a waste of valuable time to discuss these topics. The vast majority of people like what you do. We get it, some people suck... But 40 damn minutes...? On a podcast? That entire chunk is dedicated to complaining about the complainers? Wowza. I really don't see that as helpful to anyone. The audience that needs to hear that, and needs to calm down isn't listening to that bit. They're either ignoring it, or not even watching... You kick ass, and so do your guests and the audience at large. Don't give the naysayers so much airtime. They quite literally do not care. Keep doing what you do, and stay the course. Your interviews and style standout. The people that hate on it, are seen on every podcast. Comedy, meditation... you name it. But giving them too much airtime will only make the real fans concerned/seem uninterested. We want to know that while you care, its not going to upset what we've come to love. Ramble ramble ramble. Sorry if this sounded rude. I just meant 40min is a little much to go off about detractors. They're everywhere.
This was the most honest and organic interview you've had to date. Don't ever change your factual, scientifically based style. That is exactly why I love your podcasts and why you have so many people who want to watch your interviews. You will never please all the people all the time. And don't ever listen to someones opinion if you wouldn't ask them for advice. Your only responsibility is to yourself. Just do what you can do - only do what you think is right and go that direction. Don't change!
Another great episode….frustrating as hell, but great. Curiosity being an evil and persistent task master, continuous dead ends and unanswered questions are enough to drive one to distraction. Not laying blame on anyone…perhaps just voicing what most of us, who are paying attention, may be thinking. Thx to Lue, Sean and of course Curt for keeping this a topic of discussion.
I agree. And this is not a slight on anyone as I massively respect all three people involved, and think lui in particular is a fantastic ambassador for the topic. However, it now feels that no questions are even close to be answered, to the extent it renders many of the responses meaningless. And I know the reason for that is because we simply do not have answers. That’s why I like to hear from people willing to try join the dots and give their perspective on exactly What they think it is based on their expertise. In this case they won’t be drawn out on what they personally think, only there is no evidence (that they can publicly share as of now)
Yeah that's what I felt early into this interview I really appreciate everyone involved and can enjoy the discussion but it just seems when I first started seeing Lulu and interviews it was a different tone now at times it's almost seems as if they're skirting the questions or talking around them and it's not as if they have to be there in the first place so I really do appreciate their time it just I found it kind of strange but I certainly can understand either not having any answers or not being able to say certain things do 2nda really enjoy these discussions though really awesome and really appreciate the people involved thanks so much!
Curiosity is not evil, but it can be a taskmaster when at its best. Those roadblocks to curiosity are roadblocks to the truth, as those roadblocks are the real evil.
@@Man_fay_the_Bru curious why you think that. I’ve heard that lue was head of counter intelligence or something like that and there are disputes about his work at attip
Curt your willingness to tackle subjects you find uncomfortable and your honesty with your feelings are what make your interviews so compelling. Thanks for sharing.
Congrats Lue, re; your daughter!! You are such an amazing man for doing what you are doing!!! Thank you for taking this subject seriously and coming out the way you have. I really look up to you and I'm sure your entire family and friends are so proud of you and what you stand for!! Stay safe and thanks again!!! You the man!!! 👍
Curt, you are one of the most solid youtubers I watch. Your intelligence, explications, sincerity, humility, interview skills .... impeccable. Keep up the excellent work, and Thank you !
Curt, as for you thinking you have thin skin, I couldn't agree with what Sean and Luis said more. The ONLY responsibility you have is to do what resonates within you. I haven't been watching you for long as I just recently found your channel but you seem like you are truly coming from a good place from within yourself. Don't allow them to bring you down and keep things positive. Like Lue also said, it's easy to give advice and much harder to take it but just realize that the people making noise are usually the ones with the problem. Remember this, you can't please all the people all the time so just please yourself, put it in Gods hands and know he's got this. Love You! Also, this was a great interview, I am still having to rewind and watch some of this long 3 parts but it has all been very well done. I will be tuning in to more of your shows. Don't be hard on yourself, keep your chin yup and remember you are doing the best you can with what you have and from the heart. Lue said "after all we are all human" maybe the haters are the aliens because most humans I know are good people...LOL One thing about mistakes, I don't call them mistakes, I call them learning steps. I am of the firm belief that we go through the things we are supposed to on this journey. The only thing we have control over is how we perceive our reality & no two people share the same reality as all of our perceptions are different.
I would like to add..it takes a lot of ability to successfully interview such a huge range of highly intelligent individuals and always deliver a show that the viewers can understand and enjoy.
Lue Elizondo - in one moment bringing up on his own a-cord, "hey - am I the only one drinking here" - only towards the end of the podcast admitting he's been drinking apple juice all along. If it were apple juice all along, to say unprovoked "hey - am I the only one drinking here" shows quite a manipulative character trait in my opinion. If he was making up the Apple juice in a beer bottle to get out of coming across drunk - that also shows a level of deceit that makes me very uncomfortable. Either way - not a good character trait. Makes you think.
Curt, you are doing an amazing job. Over the years your interviewing technique has become more refined and more impactful. You know when to push and when to back off. Most of all you show a tremendous amount of respect. Equally my respect and admiration for Lue Elizondo only grows. Having said that I can't help but get the feeling he is holding something back that is truly earth shattering, that we are dealing with something that will change all of our lives. You can see it in his physical features and in the tenor of is voice when he really starts talking about this phenomenon. Words like "somber", "serious", "Game-changing" really make me think we are dealing with something well beyond our frame of reference. I have my own opinion mainly based on my faith but I'll keep that to myself. The best advice I heard today was to love your family. I think we will all need to hold dear to this tenant moving forward. Things will get very strange in the days and years ahead. Thanks again for sharing these two men thoughts and advice. And thanks Lue for giving us a hint of what is to come.
Thank you Luis and Sean for taking time to give us this conversation. They dont get pay or get anything out of this. It is tough to be question your character all these years.
Great interview Curt, thanks for your curiosity and interest in this subject. Your humility and self reflection provide such a positive counterpoint to the hostility that exists within parts of the UFOlogy community. The last hour was really thought provoking, loved the whole conversation and all of your content so thanks again.
Lue, among other things, I absolutely lovedddd how you got loud about people making their own decisions about what to do. That was amazing, and I don’t think enough people do that or think and know that. I appreciate all of your work! Thank you so much guys! Keep on keepin’ on!
Curt is awesome, FINALLY a channel that talks about things we ACTUALLY desire to hear! Now, as far as these two guests… honestly it sounds like they need a vacation from this subject. I don’t know if it’s just me (I doubt it), but it doesn’t seem as complicated as they make it out to be. I mean they’re getting into political issues, family dynamics, love, relationships, holy crap fellas!? I really do think Occam’s Razor applies to the UAP/UFO subject- We live in an endless universe filled with countless planets, so do the math. Do we humans have all the laws of Physics and nature figured out? Doubtful. There are likely elements that exist on other planets that would blow our collective minds, things we can’t even fathom, possibilities we’d only perceive as magic at this point. And as we have done over centuries, discovering and learning this tiny planet we live on, I’d bet there are other species doing the same thing, only they got started a few million years before us.
I think I kno couple things . IDK if I would believe that uap,s are real if I havnt seen the cave paintings of uap . 15 century paintings that have uap in the sky . Indian vedic writings and the vhimana . A few differant native american oral beliefs and stories of the sky ppl . And on and on and on . Oh yeah , the Old Testament , Ezikial . And the testamony of these military pilots that have seen uap . And most of all , the technological "push" we were given after the "civil war".
Amazing interview. The last hour was something that I needed to hear. Kurt, what a hell of a journey you’ve had with this podcast. Thanks for being so open and personal. It really helps to hear that others like yourself are dealing with The same issues that I have. I really appreciate your style and admire your heart for people.
What was up with that 30-45 minute monologue though? Like if these guys want to be passive-aggressive with everything how the hell are you supposed to have a conversation.
This was a very discouraging video. I think as someone like myself who knows very little about the UFO topic and has followed most of Lue's unscripted interviews on RUclips and podcasts to stay informed, I find it upsetting to hear those interviews will be coming to an end. He's making a difference informing the general public. I'm afraid if that discussion goes away, then so too will this very important topic. Possibly the most important subject in human history. There must be a way for Lue to stay public and relevant on the subject, without the discouragement caused by some in the UFOogy community. I hope Lue will reconsider.
I'm a fan of Lue, but he was so damn triggered in this interview. So was Sean, to a lesser degree. I can understand why Curt wanted to clarify that they weren't angry at him or his viewers because they really were not coming across too well for large parts of this interview. But I get it. They're human. Sometimes things get under our skin. I hope to see Lue back to his best form if he ever comes back on the circuit. *EDIT* That last 10 minutes was very illuminating. All three of you were very open and honest, and I feel this whole conversation was a net gain for the subject and for me personally. Thank you Curt, Lue, and Sean.
I hate how the guy on here with Lue chimes in so much. He seems so hateful and is taking up so much time wasting it on trolls. He is discouraging Lue from doing podcasts and interviews, saying quote, "not getting any work done" that's absolute bullshit. He is spreading information to the general public and bringing awareness. I watch every single interview that Lue does. I hope Lue does not go silent. That WILL NOT help. We need him staying public and need to ignore trolls and shills who try to discourage him.
I'm kind of glad Lue and Sean don't want to do interviews as much anymore, they both seem kind of crabby with shitty attitudes towards the UFO audience. Lue has put himself in the spotlight time and time again yet complains about the reactions from the community who ask for evidence to back his hype. Don't hype up people and then hide behind NDA and expect everyone to coddle you.
I felt bad for Curt while watching this interview. Lots of gaslighting going on in the last hour and a half. They give us no information whatsoever and then get mad at people who are asking questions and trying to find out what's going on using the minimal fragments of information available. The "stop wasting our time" part was seriously hard to watch. Big fan of Lue's work, but I seriously don't know how to feel about this.
Thank you to both Lue and Sean for their generosity and their service. I still can hardly believe I'm lucky enough to speak to Sean for 3h, and to Lue for perhaps 7h (total). A special thank you to Lue who spent some of his time with me on a day his daughter was getting married. Truly, once more... Thank you, both.
Both of the guests are humble, honest, straightforward, willing to help and matured.
Hopefully the public will appreciate and understand their message,…
They do not wait for benefits like most of the others, by saying buy my book, …. I understand that many prefer being abused, subordinate, .... but of course not all humans are the same.
they do not show off, they only want to help the public for free, for the sake of humanity, their time is precious too, they have families and friends to spend their time with,….
They endanger themselves for the sake of the public, one of them if he slip and says any classified information then he will get himself into troubles, why? It is for the public “Humanity”, listen to their advises: understand yourself and your responsibilities, ……probably this is the best Video on thje internet and must reach all mankind, forget about UAP that is not the point, just listen carefully to their valuable message.
Be proud of them.
Can’t wait to listen! Any chance of Dr Diana Walsh Pasulka appearing ? I find her approach fascinating.
Thank you Lue, Sean and Curt for another great conversation! Curt, you are nowhere near a failure and are doing such a great job at approaching this topic and helping spread this knowledge to the masses. Stay true to being who you are and don't let the negativity or vitriol affect you in anyway. The closer you are to Universal Truth, the more arrows that will be slung your way. With Love, Truth and Knowledge as your shield, nothing can harm you. Thanks again for the insight gentlemen 🙏
I believe it's becoming clearer that the source of this phenomenon is caused by a Universal Life Force or Energy that we have many labels for such as, God, Consciousness, Spirit, Ether, Love, Thought or many others. They are all describing the same Force or Energy or even Frequency that is behind it all. Science can't explain it and our simple minds can't process it but somehow we are all connected to it or little pieces of it reside in us. That's my opinion at least
Thank you so much for re-releasing the talk. I was so disappointed last week that I had missed it. Many thanks to Lue for his tireless work in pursuing disclosure.
Curt, as a former journalist and a current PhD candidate, I know something about research and about interviewing. I have to tell you you're doing such a great job. it broke my heart when you were so hard on yourself. I just want take a moment to encourage you. I've had to justify studying and writing about UFOs and extraterrestrials at the university level to professors and administrators, so I can relate a bit to what you're going through in terms of feeling like you have to justify yourself to a larger audience, that your integrity is questioned, and even your sanity is called into doubt. I can't say ignore it, Curt, because it's impossible to do, but what I can say is that most of the criticism and most of the negative comments are going to be horseshit --- pure and simple. I would splice together Lue and Sean's encouragement to you and put it on replay whenever you're feeling down about yourself or your work. So far the UAP community has left us academics of today out of the conversation, which is to their loss. But you've got a voice, a great show, and you should be so proud of what you've accomplished and be excited about the things to come and not about the transient bullshit people send your way. Head up, friend. Press on.
So anything new bombshell that came out from this conversation?
As NASA's head rocket scientist, I too think he's doing a great job.
He has the most integrity and sanity I’ve seen in quite some time!
One of the best interviewers (my opinion, obv) is lifelong broadcaster Leo Laporte. Look for Leo Laporte on the Triangulation series with Bill Atkinson. Just like a great photographer incorporates personality and mood into a portrait, a great interviewer delivers the personality and perspective of the interviewee from and into the discussion.
Lmao…& what PROOF did you show these professors( “trust me bro”stories aren’t proof by the way)
This is the 2nd time I have listened to this conversation, and I will probably come back to it again since this touched my heart and soul so deep. This is one of the best and most important conversations I've heard in years 👍 When you all opened your heart...oh, wow... ❤
Thankyou Curt for the opportunity to listen to a interesting conversation. The subject matter is complex and thought provoking. 😁
Hey Curt, I have spent a few years listening UFO podcasts. I also listen to all sorts of podcasts of various topics. Your channel is very underrated and deserves more subscribers. Nobody has tackled the UFO podcasting like you have where you drill down smart and well thought-out questions in detail. There is literally no other channel like yours, you are doing a great service to the topic. Please keep doing what you do and keep exploring the UAP topic. My only advice is to be more careful with some of your audience. Sometimes, majority does not mean good.
Easily my new favorite! I listen to most everything too but his take is the best, even going so far as to add footnotes for additional reading material on subjects that were addressed! My kind of man!
Seriously, most interviews come from a beginners pov, this channel is definetly for those who are the tip of emerging info and those that are open to really any possibility, even if it turns out its just military black projects.
I agree with you. Curt’s show is one of the best on the internet No doubt.
Lou saying for some reason people want to see conflict. Its ingrained in human coulter.
You guys rock ! I love the fact that you are involved in the complex of uap and all it involves. Its a subject that can break a person down.....confuse and want to say f it. Its this way or that way.
Curt once again, deserves the highest respect for his honesty and earnestness as he tries to explore this difficult subject matter. Thanks Curt! We appreciate your efforts immensely.
I'm impressed with his ability to let his guests speak.
Well said, Christopher. I am shocked by Lou. 3+hrs of "figure it out yourself, because we're tired and "saturated". This from a combat vet? Who does that flag stand for anyway, Lou. You? Your buddies? Talk to me about "honor" Mr. Apple juice.
@@vettevegas8549 Agreed.
@@vettevegas8549 Lue is part of a controlled disclosure that’s being done in conjunction with a rollout of the Space Force ((and an expansion of private industry into the eventuality of space exploration- they will encounter UAPs in higher numbers)).
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Lou's advice to just turn around and be with your loved ones is bang on. I've seen people go down the rabbit hole and isolate themselves from their friends and family, or simply forget how beautiful it is to stop and smell the flowers. There is so much to appreciate in this existence, that without it there is no point to this human experience. I know it can be overwhelming to think about what the phenomena may be and how it would change the world if we had answers, but you would still be human in the end.. and if any answers are coming, they will get here when they get here.
So true. Some men love to be driven mad by the question with no answer.
How do those boots taste?
Lou's really only good for smelling the flowers. If there is 1 single thing, he has ever educated us or on, that wasn't already researched, explored, or observed by someone else before him, let me know.
Watch the Armageddon movie at 1:58:00
Also watch the presidential speech on Armageddon and listen to him at 2:43 on his Brazilian meeting recording
Okay sure let’s just sit back and enjoy our families and let the New world order advance it’s agenda of De-population.. until all of our loved ones are gone.. and if you don’t believe there is a plan to de-populate the earth then keep believing the Government wants the best for you and your family.
Let me explain how I interpreted this podcast. Seeing the thumbnail I already had a sort of preconceived notion of what to expect. I have heard Lou speak several times. The way that Lou sort of "burst my bubble" and went after the specific types of questions that he thinks are nonsensical wasn't "easy" to hear, mostly because I have many of the same questions, but it was beneficial to hear and did force me to think of this entire subject differently. That is the most important topic that is covered extensively in this podcast. The parallel to this realization is the fact that we need to change the way that we view UAPs and this topic in general. I was falling into this same mindset where I was looking for Lou to tell me what to do or how to feel about this topic. Lou is right, if you want entertainment or self fulfilled prophecy then you can sift through the last 50+ years of "information." If you want data and facts and then wish to make an informed decision and come to your own conclusions then Lou is your guy. Another great point was if you do not have your own personal business and mental state and relationships in order then you really can't even begin to ask the right questions or understand the "meaning" of the UAP phenomenon. Well done. Let's work together and all try to advance this topic together without bias or hatred and embrace each other and our collective experience with love and acceptance. Thank you.
Wow Luis is good I tell you, he has a bunch of people buying his BS. I did for a minute when I first found out about him earlier this year then after I kept listening it became obvious he was a charlatan. Dig into his past and how he got to this point and it becomes even more obvious this man is it for the money.
Well said mate!
PLEASE do not give up on this topic from a rational, fact-based, scientific perspective. Each one of us can only do what we do (you, me, Lue, every individual out there). Regardless of those who only want to see drama, there is a quiet, dedicated core of people who care about the pursuit more than where it leads us. As long as that is kept in mind, there is great benefit to doing what you do.
not trying to cause drama but lue is a disinfo agent sorry
@@wiljaxbrantley342 How would you know that?
@@tim1883 lmao how would i not know they leaked his file whoops
If you look at this topic with a rational, fact based, scientific perspective, then we've been at a dead end for quite some time now.
@@IrvRat1982 how can you look at secret information thats not public knowledge? rationaly or otherwise
So glad you are so far staying with the ufo topic Kurt. You're interviews are some of the best out there.
Oh my god… the ending of this episode was absolutely amazing!
Thank you, Curt, for your continued efforts and your interrogative abilities!!!
I'm so enjoying this podcast...I'm not surprised that everyone in these comments have nothing bad to say.
That should tell you how much people think of you and your and your podcast.
Curt, I've been here since the beginning of your podcast and in that time you've changed my life with the topics you've investigated, and the seriousness and passion you display is why. Thank you for doing this. You're the man.
On my 60th birthday, I realized that per the "odds" I may have 20 good years, at best. Most of that I want to spend learning with Kurt.
Nice vib thread🤗
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I can confidently say I’m a person that’s NOT interested in drama, mud-slinging or the he-said she-said of the UFO phenomenon. I’m here for the discussion and gaining more knowledge about the topic that I have given my life to since December 2017. Thank you Curt, Lue and Sean for keeping it real 👍
How have you not noticed for all the supposed mud slinging he is against he likes to fling as much mud as anyone? Lue is operation gaslight; until he puts up he should shut up.
@@PlayMoreLoud well since 2017 he’s moved the conversation ahead light years compared to where it was for the last century. If that’s not good enough for you, or if you’re personally hurt by something he’s said then I don’t know what to say 🤷🏻
@@mjjumps How has he done that exactly? What evidence did he present? Does he have any theories of his own?
@@PlayMoreLoud I get it. You want more well so do I. It can be frustrating because these guys know more than they can say. And no, I’m not 100% in on Lue either. But if you can’t see the progress that’s been made, with him leading the way then your blind or uninformed.
@@mjjumps the least you can do is answer the question!
I am not sure I liked Sean Cahill in this interview and I think he made Lue a little different than the previous two interviews. I totally get they are beaten down and calloused by the bad guys but you cant lump the genuine people in with the bad when you respond. There are truly those of us that care and want to help but just do not know how. I think what Sean needs to remember is that YES what they think does matter to people because they know things we do not. So when regular people sit back and listen to this, we dont know the facts they do. Knowing they arent going to tell us the facts only leaves us asking what they think about things. This is a lot and it is daunting but they are in a different place than the rest of us. I get so many people annoy them but there are a lot that just truly want to understand and in no way annoy them. You did a great job Curt, you always do. Thank you for this!!
I agree. It’s so vague it actually IS a cause for concern. Like we literally really are up against an existential threat. Turn to your loved ones sounds like something you’d say if there was a nuke coming in from Russia tomorrow. WTF. What are we talking about at this point!!
Amazing series and the format is perfect, thank you on behalf of everyone for covering this topic.
The only issue I had with some answers, for example ‘we should learn everything we can about the moon’ or ‘our opinions don’t matter’. The underlying issue is facts/knowledge that is being withheld for various reasons (some which are truly valid). Both of their opinions do matter because they’re far more informed than anyone else watching and so are those who may have access to conclusive information about the moon that the public isnt, that’s why we are wanting to hear from both guests in the first place.
We are very grateful for your efforts, Curt!
Curt..you are an amazingly natural and genuine interviewer. The way you handled this episode was outstanding and really learning a lot from you...not sure I could hold my shape like you did..you are leading the way...a new way for a lot of us...!!!
Dude I agree.
This episode got me teary-eyed near the end when Lue and Sean gave such deep advice to Curt about how recognizing one's own weaknesses and being determined to fix them is actually a strength. Honestly I initially watched this for my scientific and existential curiosity as usual, but I ended up with unexpected spiritual rejuvenation. I hope and pray all of us stay on the path of constantly improving our character and relationships with ourselves and loved ones. I feel so grateful for watching this episode and getting access to the advice of these wise men. Thank you so much for all your time and effort Curt, Lue, and Sean.
Just posted similar comment regarding the poignant value in such amazing minds showing us a sense of equal mental struggles with emotional interpretation of common criticism
I struggle to get teary eyed over a CIA counter-intelligence officer, especially one still involved in counter-intelligence, which is what all this is about
@Bob Smith Why do you think so?
@@DAVIDE-bk8by You think Lue is doing this for counter-intellingence? Or are you also talking about Sean? I don't know much about Sean--if you're talking about him where did you get your info to come to that conclusion?
Also, I struggle to understand why Lue would be out tarnishing his reputation by investigating this subject all for counter-intellingence, especially when honestly, the guy isn't really even famous at all outside of the niche UFO community. If his job is spreading counter intelligence, he's doing a pretty bad job then. Because he's really not that popular at all with the general Western public and plenty of people don't take him seriously. If counter intelligence were so important shouldn't they have more government guys like Lue out there heavily promoting the narrative? But most people seem reluctant to even entertain the topic for fear of their reputations.
So I wonder why you believe this is all about counter-intellingence.
@Bob Smith on top of this, an actual guru, dropped better info on aliens then any of these guys could even understand.listen to Sadhguru on joe Rogan, oh also this guy is filled with life and definitely doesn’t have a long face all the time, from too much pressure and work, even though he has more pressure in his life than both these guys
Curt....It hurts inside when you tell how you feel about what to do or not do....because you are so good at what you do!!! I just need to say: to me,- you have one of the very best channels on the whole RUclips!!!! You are so intelligent, so repectful, so wanting to learn and understand, so serious, and so knowledgeable.....and I really admire what you do and the way you do it!!🙂☀️🌼
I found your questions and superchat questions to be excellent and interesting and echoed a lot of my own. I understand it can be frustrating for people like Luis & Sean,but I think they need to think of us all like students. Just because the first year of students asks a question doesn’t mean the next year the new wave of students should know that info…they’re human, they sounded a little cranky, haha, but if people have the questions it means they don’t have the answers yet even if Luis and Sean feel like they have answered it a million times already.
You were great and exceedingly patient with your guests and it was interesting. Looking forward to watching others.
Agree completely, Sean came off as downright rude and disrespectful. He shouldnt project his frustration onto the audience just because we dont know everything he knows.
Simply sending support, in regard to the last few minutes of this episode. As a viewer and fan, it's a net positive, because the content you put out is consistently the most thoughtful, well-rounded, investigative, and compassionate content out there ... and those qualities are rare, and to be valued. So, thank you for your contributions to these topics!
Very well said!♥️🕊😘🦋
Agreed! I appreciate the educated and rational discussions around a very controversial topic. I honestly have a deep love for trying to discover a theory of everything but did not know about your podcast before this subject matter appeared on it. I am now a consistent viewer for all subjects you speak on, but this one in particular is so hard to find educated free form discussions on the topic and viewpoints from so many people with different backgrounds. As you've said before, I feel the answer will come from the fringe, but in that, we need to be able to discuss anything and everything and look at it all from multiple viewpoints.
Curt is a beautiful soul.❤
@@lisabowden1679 Well put! He is for sure.
Im sorry but the whole......" You need to find your own answers is a crock of shit especially coming from a person who has the truth we are seeking. So quit dropping the i cant tell you what to do narrative. It's so condescending. Smh"
Aw, Curt, you are great. The online world is full of armchair critics who come out of the blue and demand that you be accountable to them without bothering to earn your trust or respect. I really respect everyone on this podcast for refusing to engage in drama and entertainment and speculation and stick to a more sober, reasonable track. As a newcomer to the world of UAP, I appreciate your sincerity, humility and candor.
Just wanted to say a huge thank you to Lou, Sean and Curt for this interview and in particular to Lou for taking this time in such an important day for him. Your commitment to this subject and in turn humanity’s need to understand this! Words are not enough to express this. Thanks!!
Curt you are by far the best podcaster I am aware of. Your interview style and questions are excellent, but what I think sets you apart is just how above-and-beyond you go for your viewers.
The timestamps and resources you provide in the description being the best example. Keep up the good work!
Lol I just wrote the almost exactly same thing on another comment. He’s the best!
Curt, I could listen to you talk about a fly walking up a wall for three hours.
I’m with you, I’m barracking for you.
Travelling down the TOE road with you has been an uplifting and expanding time of my life.
I appreciate you.
Curt. That episode is gold. Thank you. You are a brilliant human. Cheers from Poland ❤
Thank you so much
I watched all 3 parts of this interview over the past two days, and I have to say it’s been the most interesting and introspective interview I’ve ever seen. You are a phenomenal interviewer, and Lue and Shawn have been phenomenal guests. The conversation was at all times respectful, including the pushbacks, and it was clear that your only agenda was to get information, whatever it may be, out. The last hour was particularly insightful, and I’m sure will give many pause to reflect on the big picture of who we, as individuals and as a species, are. Thanks to you, Shawn, and Lue for such an enlightening, thought-provoking conversation. As with yourself, Curt, I will be mulling this over for some time, and look forward to it.
I'm glad you were able to get so much from this
Agree 100%
Love Lue and Sean but this interview was literally 2 hours of them complaining.
Lue just talks in circles and never really answers any questions.
I want to say thank you, for all the sacrifices all three of you have made. There are so many of us here (quietly) listening and learning appreciatively and (hopefully) In time the ignorant faction will naturally precipitate out of this solution, and the waters of this conversation start to become clear.
Luis, be encouraged. You effective testimony was a big part of convincing me. You are all doing good.
I have to say this was a bit painful to watch. I expected a meaningful conversation, but sounded as if we were scolded for not doing our homework due to not understanding the assignment. Keep up the good work Curt, you are doing your best, not your fault.
Yeah I got that feeling too. I'm sorry for not having their knowledge, training or the means to do similar work. If Sean would rather be spending his time doing the work he shouldn't agree to be a guest on a podcast!
@@starofsiam1 right on I totally agree with you
@@vanenmar7491 that's right these two guests really pissed me off acting like they're so important and they have to keep their secrets to themselves insinuating it was a waste of time talking to us little people
I agree. I could spend all my time complaining and going completely off the topic. Or I could perhaps just listen to the question and answer it without whinging and whining. Often they completely forgot what they were being asked.
I agree 100%.
Lou and Sean; we are a very large community who support you and follow your efforts to bring clarity to the subject. Your approach is the only approach that has really brought any kind of facts to the table as well as official acknowledgement.
Maybe we are not as loud as the haters but we are here. I can not speak for everyone but I for one hope that you will keep doing what you are doing - and keep giving interviews, they are always interesting and enlightening.
Thank you for everything so far, looking forward to what will come, whatever it will be.
These are the conversations that need to be had! All 3 of you have shown what humanity is capable of instead of bickering, fighting and focusing on the differences. We all need to have productive chats like this instead of name calling and blaming. Life and reality is all about perspectives. Finding out what other perspectives are and seeing where they're coming from is the first step in creating solutions for ALL the world's problems. Great job guys!
It is only through critical analysis and evidence-based investigations that we can separate fact from fiction and unravel the mysteries that surround us, continue the great work Kurt!
So i imagine this was not the intention, but listening through this podcast made me feel like i was being mob-beaten in a dark alley for something i didn't do...
- all i came here for was some insight into UAPs / USOs / Extradimensional-Paranormal manifestation...
- like a few others out there, i look up to Lue Elizondo and look forward to every one of his media interventions (but certainly not that other guy whose name i've already forgotten and who seems to think he's super famous and important) and my goodness i'm always giddy happy to get even some of Lue's more cryptic answers, they just inspire you to believe and open your mind a little with every minute clue he lets slip through
- instead, i get told by the people whose answers i'm eagerly awaiting (not *demanding* from them, just earnestly awaiting with an almost childish enthusiasm) - i get told by them that they have better things to do than to explain to me all those important matters i don't seem to understand
- not only that, but i feel like i've indirectly contributed to making the host's life miserable...
Honestly at this stage i'm starting to feel like Lue and the other nameless guy should probably go back to doing whatever they're trying to do at the moment (getting congress to release info or whatever) and stop coming on podcasts... because what's the point of doing those if they won't show a bit of restraint in front of an audience, while at the same time professing universal love and the need for some sort of a planetary consciousness to arise? If those angry men are the apostle of such a lofty change, then i can tell we're already in trouble
Mob beaten in a dark alley…for something you didn’t do. That’s my day too brother. I appreciate your opinion.
Amen. This Sean whatever his name is, is one self important d-bag! Lue kinda had to try and roll with his buddy, but also came off shitty here.
This was a beat down because of the Linda Moulton Howe interview. Curt took his lumps. But the boys didn't do a good job, they should have practiced or drank more beer before the interview.
I agree this wasn’t a good podcast with some pointless questions and conversations repeating shit over and over
I must say that i unfortunately agree with this. They seem laugh out some of the serious questions.
As Lue said the loudest voices are in reality the minority. Kurt you are doing a fantastic job with these podcasts, to me and the people I know that watches your videos, you come forward as a honest, sincere and genuine content creator, I've not seen a single incident where I would think otherwise. There have been miscommunications for sure but those are to be expected.
Keep doing what you do, and know that you can do thing in your own way and own pace. Do what you find interesting, because if you are genuinely interested in what you do that interest will transfer to your viewers.
I usually almost never make comments about anything anywhere because of a lot of different reasons (some of them pin pointed by you guys in this very episode).
But I just have to say this: What an amazing episode this truly is in almost every aspect!
I sincerely enjoyed every single minute of your conversation!
3 hours of my life with enrichment (is that a legit word btw?🤔)
Thank you so much for this! All three of you!
I even wrote down a quote from this episode, made by Mr. Elizondo:
"There's a lot of damaged units out there"
It made me laugh so hard that my eyes went all moist😆
Anyway keep up the good fight🤘🫶👊
All the people that complained about this episode weren’t listening or had there own bias get offended. This episode is GOLD.
Maybe you were learning things from this episode buddy but most of us know this information and it was sad and patronizing to hear this armchair philosophy.
100% they're not understanding people they have their agenda their criteria and what their dope and receptors are set for, they chase things that are what they want to hear not what's actually going on, it's amazing to me that people aren't understanding this, maybe they understand it but they don't want to because they're not getting their dopamine fix
It's Curt Jaimungals fault...if he had even the slightest bit of control over his guests it wouldnt have come off so condescending.
You have something brown on your nose.
It’s only patronizing because they aren’t telling you what you want to hear.
I'm very open minded, but as a subject for discussion its getting too repetitive. Especially no substance or evidence its drying up and even the guests sound tired of what they are talking about.
Not really what I was expecting but I stayed until the end. Thank you all three for your time. I look forward to the time when Lue can divulge more. Don’t be discouraged by those who point the finger to condemn & pick holes. The paranormal is a fascinating subject as well as UFO’s/UAP’s & I hope you continue to find guests Curt to talk about these
Finally someone who says my Philosophy degree was worth it 👌 😄
Thank you Curt🙏 For me this was a really constructive and interesting conversation. The initial premise about having a foundational understanding of yourself and what is meaningful and important to existence itself and the contextual frame that humanity brings to that in the human experience is absolutely fundamental to approaching the topic of UAP. The content of the conversation then went on to example why that actually is. Humanity needs to rise to the challenge of self awareness on a personal and collective basis. It’s quite possible that UAP is the challenge humanity needs in order for us to progress in this way.
Lue, the reason that we tune into these podcasts is that it's the only place we can get straight talk with regard to the phenomenon. By not doing these podcasts, we are only left with the charlatans. We can understand your frustration, but we are generally incapable of performing the research that you are doing. Love you guys.
Sorry
That's totally bogus
Loads of good UFO sources.
All this putting people on pedestal...
& The info that people connected with the Government won't tell you
That you paid for...
Like the Government done such a good job protecting its People🤦♀️
Well said. Unfortunately people like myself are tied up with "normal life" stuff. Kids, events, work, family issues and situations, etc etc...
I personally rely on these type of people for research and the journey to the truth. I have formed my own opinion on all aspects of what has been presented since 2017. I feel the genuine sincerness of what these people are trying to accomplish is admirable and very much respected to folks like me. Normal civilians wanting to pursuit the truth, but are held back by our personal lives and possibly even financial stability issues.
I believe these people are the pioneers to the new era of this topic. In which this topic can be talked about seriously and without the stigma attached to it. They are in my opinion, heros in many ways. I honestly appreciate their time and sacrifice to this topic and hope they can strive to carry on the good fight for folk like me.
Thank you very much Mr. Elizondo and company, for your dedication and sacrifice for the truth.
To quote a cheap joke from Wayne's World, "We're not worthy. We're not worthy. We're not worthy....". Lol
I can't take Lou seriously. He is clearly using his career and the massive curiosity around so called UFOlogy to promote himself while pretending to complain about the very attention he manifested. Everything he says is contradictory. Pretends to know incredible shocking information, but also doesn't know anything. Why are these two guys constantly promoting themselves and their alleged secret information if it's such a burden? Promotes disclosure, but discloses nothing.
@@gd3551 you do know what a nda is right if he shares everything he knows knowing he signed a nda and gets prison time then what also what has he said that's contradicting
@@jamaljewell425 So what? A bit of a strawman. Lou's entire message is that humanity deserves the truth and something made him "somber". So either he has something to share for humanity or he's a charlatan selling a tour and publishing. Don't come at me with fanboy admiration for a man you don't know. If he has secret info that can imprison him, why is he promoting it???
To Lue's point on heightened senses. I went to college for recording engineering with a kid that was blind. One day I was walking toward class by myself and he called out my name. I hadn't said a word or given any noticeable cue that I was present. I was shocked and asked how he knew it was me... He said he knew by the sound of my shoes, and the pace of my walk. Blew my mind.
I really enjoyed this episode. The human condition is brutal, and it really came through.
Thank you so much Tomas again
Y’all are all doing what you do for millions of us. Without going too deep, you’re doing what many of us need, info-wise, to keep moving forward on different levels.
We all have our role to play & none get played without the other. ✌️
Mr. Jaimungal is an enthusiastic and intelligent interviewer and I really enjoy his channel. However, I find this particular show insulting. The two guests are highly evasive and defensive. Beware of people who come to you with “special knowledge” (classified data, messages from an alien or angel or whatever, etc.) that they cannot actually divulge to you because a) this is not the right time, b) it will be revealed when you pay money, c) they have an NDA, or some other excuse. Then their extremely lengthy complaining about people who they find disrespectful to their message is way over the top. Come on, man!
I have not made up my mind about any of this but you are my favorite person to listen to on this topic. Please continue doing what you're doing.
As always, thank you Kurt, and thank you to Lue and Sean. Regardless of where one stands in this debate at the very least, I hope all can appreciate your spiritual and philosophical take on everything. Thank you.
What’s sad about this is how many people don’t even care about this topic right now. Literally feel like I’m living in the movie “ Don’t Look Up”
Agreed I dont understand those people myself
Thank you all three, Lue, Sean and Curt ! For trying to come out to discuss this - there are not many in society who were brave enough to come forward in this subject. Many appreciate the sound conversation!
I have been following Luis for quite some time and the narrative is the same. I believe he's said all he needs to say. I wish him well into the future. Im certain his head is heavy with this knowledge and lets not forget, he too needs to do what he has to to live with what he knows which also includes enjoying his life with his family.
Thank you Curt, you have done very well. Don't be discouraged, through adversity one gains knowledge, power, and courage to face it.
It's hard carrying the weight of the information hidden from civilians ; I've known for a couple of months. Believe it or not, it is life changing ;in every possible way. Imagine everything you were taught by school or church was a lie? Then add a pinch of ghosts , cryptids, aliens, time travel and the mutiverse are all connected . Raise your consciousness or be left in the dust.
@@loganhayes9022 Lue ruled out time travel tbh.
@@KC-cb7ov really
It's not a paint by numbers situation
Lou is not the arbitrator of reality🕊️
Lou Elizondo is a patriot. He has very interesting things to say. However, he says nothing new. Always I can't reveal classified info. Yet he does interview after interview. With nothing new to offer. Just teases.
Edit. Constant interviews about the same thing suggests that he has an agenda. Maybe its not his agenda. If the gov wishes to spread their narrative about ufos, who better to use a VERY respected well spoken convincing patriot who led the ufo investigation, has the appearance of standing up for the people by resigning and disagreeing with the gov, to make us believe what they want us to.
For-I agree, Luis has said all he can say, narrative is truly the same. Sadly! :(
02:26:05 "If [commenters, aka amateurs] really want to help the conversation, then have a conversation with us" - that would be fantastic, if Lue & Sean would actually converse with us. They simply wont answer provided questions, or reveal anything. They spent too much time being critical of folks proposing ideas (that are admittedly based on a lack of info) or simply asking relevant questions. This is a frustrating conversation, and Im not sure what to think. Im a big admirer of Lue and Sean for their work, disclosures, and for publicising this debate, but their aggressive push back, and lack of real debate or answers is worrying me. You are doing a great job Curt, providing a great platform to add to the debate, and this particular chat helps a lot, even if it leaves a negative feeling within me personally. Just please dont ask guests to drink again, especially for a UFO-related podcast. It just takes away from the debate so much. PS, I dont believe Lue had apple juice, from his appearance and mannerisms, but I have no way of knowing.
They had me fooled when I first started listening earlier this year but after digging into them, realizing how much they talk in circles and then this interview it’s pretty obvious they’re playing everyone.
Thank you Curt, big fan man, truly.
And thank you for speaking out freely about the difficulties you are facing, this kind of enterprise in the public eye demands courage and thick skin as you said. The conversation you had the 3 of you on this topic made me realize a lot of things, and I deeply thank you for that.
Please continue the great work, and if you happen to take a step back from all this to preserve yourself, we will understand.
Be happy brother, and be well.
I thought this interview was impossible to listen too. Hug your kids? Treat your family right? I appreciate Lue for hours efforts but he could answer questions in half as many words. I lost interest about halfway.
I've been following the UFO subject since the mid 90's. Please don't stop this subject because of toxic people, they're everywhere and in every subject.
I think the most toxic aren't even real. Similar to the cpp's 50 cent army, who ate paid to troll the web and praise everything ccp I'm a positive light there is an army of paid trolls (including computer programs) that do nothing but target certain subjects and individuals.
Thank you Curt for facilitating this and to Sean and Lue for your time and effort. There is a clear level of consensus reality here and it pleases me. Let me get the next round of apple juice, I wish you all the best.
Thank you so much!
This is one of the most important UAP conversations that I have listened to. This is because I am beginning to emotionally internalise the fact that an array of UAP phenomena are actually real. I am not sure how to feel about that and am only beginning to sense its huge implications. It's great to be reminded from you and the two old warriors to start from the 'beginning place' aka 'the hearth'. I begin to see how these phenomena may bring together the many, valid, ways of seeing the world, from the scientific to second sight. Strike on! and think well of yourself my friend.
What is going on? People have questions and these guys freak out, they get angry about people learning from books, and then they go on to speculate about things like nukes and UFOs based on a book. I don't really get what thier point is, thier answers seem evasive rambling non responsive,, and I agree with them,, maybe they are just spent and should move on.
Want to know how well your channel is doing Curt(other than subscribers, votes, etc)? People are trying to discredit you or tear you down. No matter the topic or how many positive things you promote people will be at the ready to tear you down.
No need for clarifications or corrections. You said you made this channel because you were curious. You're doing great. Getting questions answered as well making us think about things we hadn't thought of.
This was a great video! Keep it up!
I hear nothing but truth and sincerity from both of these men. People constantly bash these claims from government officials.. without even listening to credible sources like these guys.
Exactly. People are so judgemental and just want the drama. It's disturbing.
Curt, you are so adept at reframing things and being sure they are understood in their proper context. Or in the times you can't, you ask the right questions to get us there.
Kurt - The best bit about this episode was seeing you open up, and then that epic smile you let out when Elizondo made you feel better. Not enough of that in the world today. Seeing that shit made my day - and still is now... No all faith in humanity is lost after all.
@lue @sean @kurt thank you! Sending love. Very grateful to you all 🙏
This 3 part series is among the best I've seen. Great job to all of you!
Everybody was very level headed, respectful, and thoughtful. Great pool of questions as well and I love how you guys don't just come crashing down on some of the more out-there questions like many podcasts will do.
We live in a crazy universe that we barely understand so it's ok to say "I don't know". Chronologically speaking we've barely even gotten started. So let's keep putting our minds together and see if we can make sense of things without pulling each other back into the trenches of ignorance.
I'm officially subscribing. Thanks guys!
Thanks for the comments
Being prepared to search for the truth and make sense of this world requires the vulnerability you display....painful but brutality honest...keep doing you, this channel is amazing with amazing guests and conversations. Know that you are doing an amazing ing job and your channel deserves to grow. Peace..Love and Light truth bringer 👍🏾
Think these guys have had enough, thanks for all the effort. Hopefully we can take it from here.
I'm glad these boys got angry it's about time we start getting serious!!!
I just realized that Curt's show doesn't use any sort of "intro music" or other soundtrack distractions. That's wonderful. I'm beginning to recognize that the louder the theme music, the weaker the content of the program. Less is so much more here. Thanks Curt!
Anyone else notice that Lou and Sean are in the same location? Are they meant to be portrayed as being in different locations? Each is sitting in a setting which I would say is meant to look like their home. When Lou went to the bathroom you could see him in the mirror behind Sean. I thought that was weird.
Just some criticism: Maybe stop talking about the haters for so long. Its a waste of valuable time to discuss these topics. The vast majority of people like what you do. We get it, some people suck... But 40 damn minutes...? On a podcast? That entire chunk is dedicated to complaining about the complainers? Wowza. I really don't see that as helpful to anyone.
The audience that needs to hear that, and needs to calm down isn't listening to that bit. They're either ignoring it, or not even watching...
You kick ass, and so do your guests and the audience at large. Don't give the naysayers so much airtime. They quite literally do not care. Keep doing what you do, and stay the course. Your interviews and style standout. The people that hate on it, are seen on every podcast. Comedy, meditation... you name it. But giving them too much airtime will only make the real fans concerned/seem uninterested. We want to know that while you care, its not going to upset what we've come to love. Ramble ramble ramble. Sorry if this sounded rude. I just meant 40min is a little much to go off about detractors. They're everywhere.
This was the most honest and organic interview you've had to date. Don't ever change your factual, scientifically based style. That is exactly why I love your podcasts and why you have so many people who want to watch your interviews. You will never please all the people all the time. And don't ever listen to someones opinion if you wouldn't ask them for advice. Your only responsibility is to yourself. Just do what you can do - only do what you think is right and go that direction. Don't change!
Telling a person not to change can be just as stressful as telling them they need to
@@simonelaird846 well then - don't not change
Great job Curt! Thank you for doing what you do.
Thank you again Curt. Your podcasts are amazing. Your guests are equally so.
Thanks for listening and enjoying!
This is getting old. Same old material. Questions are answered with metaphors or rhetorical questions.
Another great episode….frustrating as hell, but great. Curiosity being an evil and persistent task master, continuous dead ends and unanswered questions are enough to drive one to distraction. Not laying blame on anyone…perhaps just voicing what most of us, who are paying attention, may be thinking. Thx to Lue, Sean and of course Curt for keeping this a topic of discussion.
Yes! You said it well. I spent a lot of time wondering if this is obfuscation or has a meaning I’m not quite getting 🤔
I agree. And this is not a slight on anyone as I massively respect all three people involved, and think lui in particular is a fantastic ambassador for the topic. However, it now feels that no questions are even close to be answered, to the extent it renders many of the responses meaningless. And I know the reason for that is because we simply do not have answers. That’s why I like to hear from people willing to try join the dots and give their perspective on exactly What they think it is based on their expertise. In this case they won’t be drawn out on what they personally think, only there is no evidence (that they can publicly share as of now)
Yeah that's what I felt early into this interview I really appreciate everyone involved and can enjoy the discussion but it just seems when I first started seeing Lulu and interviews it was a different tone now at times it's almost seems as if they're skirting the questions or talking around them and it's not as if they have to be there in the first place so I really do appreciate their time it just I found it kind of strange but I certainly can understand either not having any answers or not being able to say certain things do 2nda really enjoy these discussions though really awesome and really appreciate the people involved thanks so much!
Curiosity is not evil, but it can be a taskmaster when at its best.
Those roadblocks to curiosity are roadblocks to the truth, as those roadblocks are the real evil.
Curt, Lue and Sean: Three guys with integrity and the courage to expose their souls for the betterment of us all.
Curt is cool, the other two are liars
@@Man_fay_the_Bru curious why you think that. I’ve heard that lue was head of counter intelligence or something like that and there are disputes about his work at attip
Wonderful interviews Kurt. Keep following your heart and yes there are some good people out there who hear you. Take care
Curt your willingness to tackle subjects you find uncomfortable and your honesty with your feelings are what make your interviews so compelling. Thanks for sharing.
Congrats Lue, re; your daughter!! You are such an amazing man for doing what you are doing!!! Thank you for taking this subject seriously and coming out the way you have. I really look up to you and I'm sure your entire family and friends are so proud of you and what you stand for!! Stay safe and thanks again!!! You the man!!! 👍
Curt, you are one of the most solid youtubers I watch. Your intelligence, explications, sincerity, humility, interview skills .... impeccable. Keep up the excellent work, and Thank you !
Curt, as for you thinking you have thin skin, I couldn't agree with what Sean and Luis said more. The ONLY responsibility you have is to do what resonates within you. I haven't been watching you for long as I just recently found your channel but you seem like you are truly coming from a good place from within yourself. Don't allow them to bring you down and keep things positive. Like Lue also said, it's easy to give advice and much harder to take it but just realize that the people making noise are usually the ones with the problem. Remember this, you can't please all the people all the time so just please yourself, put it in Gods hands and know he's got this. Love You! Also, this was a great interview, I am still having to rewind and watch some of this long 3 parts but it has all been very well done. I will be tuning in to more of your shows. Don't be hard on yourself, keep your chin yup and remember you are doing the best you can with what you have and from the heart. Lue said "after all we are all human" maybe the haters are the aliens because most humans I know are good people...LOL One thing about mistakes, I don't call them mistakes, I call them learning steps. I am of the firm belief that we go through the things we are supposed to on this journey. The only thing we have control over is how we perceive our reality & no two people share the same reality as all of our perceptions are different.
Thank you so much. That's touching. - Curt
@@TheoriesofEverything You are so very welcome, I mean every word
Curt, I wish there a million more people like you in the world, so well spoken, engaging, and emotionally intelligent.
I would like to add..it takes a lot of ability to successfully interview such a huge range of highly intelligent individuals and always deliver a show that the viewers can understand and enjoy.
Lue Elizondo - in one moment bringing up on his own a-cord, "hey - am I the only one drinking here" - only towards the end of the podcast admitting he's been drinking apple juice all along. If it were apple juice all along, to say unprovoked "hey - am I the only one drinking here" shows quite a manipulative character trait in my opinion. If he was making up the Apple juice in a beer bottle to get out of coming across drunk - that also shows a level of deceit that makes me very uncomfortable. Either way - not a good character trait. Makes you think.
Curt, you are doing an amazing job. Over the years your interviewing technique has become more refined and more impactful. You know when to push and when to back off. Most of all you show a tremendous amount of respect. Equally my respect and admiration for Lue Elizondo only grows. Having said that I can't help but get the feeling he is holding something back that is truly earth shattering, that we are dealing with something that will change all of our lives. You can see it in his physical features and in the tenor of is voice when he really starts talking about this phenomenon. Words like "somber", "serious", "Game-changing" really make me think we are dealing with something well beyond our frame of reference. I have my own opinion mainly based on my faith but I'll keep that to myself. The best advice I heard today was to love your family. I think we will all need to hold dear to this tenant moving forward. Things will get very strange in the days and years ahead. Thanks again for sharing these two men thoughts and advice. And thanks Lue for giving us a hint of what is to come.
Thank you Luis and Sean for taking time to give us this conversation. They dont get pay or get anything out of this. It is tough to be question your character all these years.
Curt, you are most certainly THE MAN! keep up the great work, man.
Great interview Curt, thanks for your curiosity and interest in this subject. Your humility and self reflection provide such a positive counterpoint to the hostility that exists within parts of the UFOlogy community. The last hour was really thought provoking, loved the whole conversation and all of your content so thanks again.
Lue, among other things, I absolutely lovedddd how you got loud about people making their own decisions about what to do. That was amazing, and I don’t think enough people do that or think and know that. I appreciate all of your work! Thank you so much guys! Keep on keepin’ on!
Curt is awesome, FINALLY a channel that talks about things we ACTUALLY desire to hear!
Now, as far as these two guests… honestly it sounds like they need a vacation from this subject. I don’t know if it’s just me (I doubt it), but it doesn’t seem as complicated as they make it out to be. I mean they’re getting into political issues, family dynamics, love, relationships, holy crap fellas!? I really do think Occam’s Razor applies to the UAP/UFO subject- We live in an endless universe filled with countless planets, so do the math. Do we humans have all the laws of Physics and nature figured out? Doubtful. There are likely elements that exist on other planets that would blow our collective minds, things we can’t even fathom, possibilities we’d only perceive as magic at this point. And as we have done over centuries, discovering and learning this tiny planet we live on, I’d bet there are other species doing the same thing, only they got started a few million years before us.
I think I kno couple things . IDK if I would believe that uap,s are real if I havnt seen the cave paintings of uap . 15 century paintings that have uap in the sky . Indian vedic writings and the vhimana . A few differant native american oral beliefs and stories of the sky ppl . And on and on and on . Oh yeah , the Old Testament , Ezikial . And the testamony of these military pilots that have seen uap . And most of all , the technological "push" we were given after the "civil war".
Amazing interview. The last hour was something that I needed to hear. Kurt, what a hell of a journey you’ve had with this podcast. Thanks for being so open and personal. It really helps to hear that others like yourself are dealing with The same issues that I have. I really appreciate your style and admire your heart for people.
What was up with that 30-45 minute monologue though? Like if these guys want to be passive-aggressive with everything how the hell are you supposed to have a conversation.
This was a very discouraging video. I think as someone like myself who knows very little about the UFO topic and has followed most of Lue's unscripted interviews on RUclips and podcasts to stay informed, I find it upsetting to hear those interviews will be coming to an end. He's making a difference informing the general public. I'm afraid if that discussion goes away, then so too will this very important topic. Possibly the most important subject in human history. There must be a way for Lue to stay public and relevant on the subject, without the discouragement caused by some in the UFOogy community. I hope Lue will reconsider.
I'm a fan of Lue, but he was so damn triggered in this interview. So was Sean, to a lesser degree. I can understand why Curt wanted to clarify that they weren't angry at him or his viewers because they really were not coming across too well for large parts of this interview. But I get it. They're human. Sometimes things get under our skin. I hope to see Lue back to his best form if he ever comes back on the circuit.
*EDIT* That last 10 minutes was very illuminating. All three of you were very open and honest, and I feel this whole conversation was a net gain for the subject and for me personally. Thank you Curt, Lue, and Sean.
I hate how the guy on here with Lue chimes in so much. He seems so hateful and is taking up so much time wasting it on trolls. He is discouraging Lue from doing podcasts and interviews, saying quote, "not getting any work done" that's absolute bullshit. He is spreading information to the general public and bringing awareness. I watch every single interview that Lue does. I hope Lue does not go silent. That WILL NOT help. We need him staying public and need to ignore trolls and shills who try to discourage him.
I'm kind of glad Lue and Sean don't want to do interviews as much anymore, they both seem kind of crabby with shitty attitudes towards the UFO audience. Lue has put himself in the spotlight time and time again yet complains about the reactions from the community who ask for evidence to back his hype. Don't hype up people and then hide behind NDA and expect everyone to coddle you.
Again... Nothing new. No real answers. Just dancing around questions.
I wanna believe this SO bad but the amount of times Lue redirects a question without answering it is really odd.
I felt bad for Curt while watching this interview. Lots of gaslighting going on in the last hour and a half. They give us no information whatsoever and then get mad at people who are asking questions and trying to find out what's going on using the minimal fragments of information available. The "stop wasting our time" part was seriously hard to watch. Big fan of Lue's work, but I seriously don't know how to feel about this.