This is gold to anyone who has never been on set. It's also gold to anyone who has been on set because you made some excellent points about everyone's roles and having one main point person for creative decisions. There's always a fine line for me when everyone is looking at you for a decision and the clock is ticking and everyone also wants to put in their creative 2 cents. How do you shut that down when they might have a better idea? How do you keep everything staying on track so you don't have paralysis by analysis? That's always the struggle for me on the smaller productions like this. Often times, budget and time constraints can hinder creativity and quality (lighting, blocking and coverage) but ultimately you have to get all of the shots in.
So true DJ. It means a lot that you put light on this. I really wanted to emphasize those moments in this. I'm working on a new vid right now that dials in on those things directly!
Zach, Excellent instructive video with valuable honest comments about your personal film making experience. As I am also planning soon to make a full feature film, based on a personal dramatic script, so sharing your first hand experience in the way you present it is very helpful and much appreciated! Also, I watched Clementine and was really pleasantly surprised to watch a well made short by someone so early in their career. When watching it, most of the scenes were quite cinematic as if they belonged in a major production. This was a clever and thoughtful Sci-Fi with just the right amount of edginess that didn't need to rely on excessive violence and gore. The background sound was great in building suspense and was not over the top. The lighting and editing were spot on. Also, I could see that you took pains to choose great shots and angles for your scenes especially where the Girl goes outside and walks around. I have a question though, and this may be just me not getting it, or not understanding some crucial dialogue. I understand that the Girl was either an AI robot or an augmented human . So why did the mother, who obviously loved the Girl, and the other "intruder" try to capture and lock her in the room and then reprogram her. What was wrong with the "Girl" in the first place. Why did the parents have to dress up as intruders to do this? Richard
You should definitely make more videos like this. This really is interesting "making of" - and the best way to learn from what other people have done is to see and hear how they've done it... if you can't be on the set working with them. Which would be the best way of course😀(It's always good to hear from the challenges and the solutions on set too, because it's so different when you have to solve it right there and then.)
Would love to see not just a budget breakdown but also a breakdown of what it would have cost if everything had been paid for. No-one ever talks about this. Its great to utilise friends etc but it would be amzing to see how much that 'free' work or reduced rates actually changes the budget. Amazing stuff by the way
I really enjoyed this BTS video, and the previous one. The way you explained the purpose of a director was solid GOLD. It's something a lot of younger filmmakers don't realize, and either listen to everyone - leading to a 'too many cooks' situation, or they go the other way and try to be an auteur and don't let anyone speak into the film. There is a balance, and I believe you've found it. I was curious as to why (especially if you're concerned with spoilers) you released these BTS videos before the film and not after?
This comment really means a lot! I looked on the internet for stuff like this for a while, then decided to just make one - ha! Thanks Joshua. I realized that most film people will watch bts before they see the film. I also just can't sit on 🔥🔥🔥 this for too long.
@@ZachRamelan That's the way to do it! And yeah, that makes sense. The teaser looks great; I can't wait to check out the final product! I've been following your stuff since you posted FREELANCER on Film Riot's channel. I'd kill for the chance to work with you guys. Keep up the great content!
Of all the film festivals I've attended to, I've seen selections that don't make sense, films shot with a smartphone, recorded in a bathroom, edited with Windows Movie Maker... in conclusion, the topic of this video doesn't exist, there's no "festival level"
"Festival level film"? Film festivals are not designed to screen the quality of the films they show. It cost filmmakers money to "enter" and the "festivals" show films based on nepotism, populist second-guessing, and advertising/studio backers. Mostly, "festivals" are created and run for the low-level wannabe filmmakers to get recognition for themselves, not other peoples' movies, sort of like artists who open galleries and hope other artists work will bring in clients to buy the owners' work so they don't pay a commission. "Winning" a festival gives no more authority or prestige than a perfect attendance merit from grade school.
I've been making films for forty years and I can't imagine spending this much time talking, talking, talking. This is NOT Roger Corman style shooting, to say the least. Clint Eastwood hasn't said this much in all the years of directing combined. Woody Allen reportedly has never had a conversation with his cinematographer. By the time you find the spot, set the lights, block, describe the shot to five different people and all that, half the day is gone and you're exhausted. Also, as a "communicator"/leader, the full-bore, manic, rapid-fire monologue of "sort of", "like", "kind of", "you know", etc. isn't a confidence builder (and this is from someone who doesn't do rehearsals, shot lists, storyboards, clappers, breakdowns). All that emoting, waving hands and jumping around, is exhausting to watch and listen to. Calm down, focus, and only speak for necessity, otherwise, whether you are aware of it or not, you create chaos from frenetic energy. I suspect you think "mania high" excitement is synonymous with "creativity".
There is more than one way to make film. You seem to be under the impression that any other way than the one you are used to / expect is incorrect. I agree in that, clearly, the guy is a bit nervous on set and that's something he should work on, but a high energy style of directing is no worse than a brooding one; I'm pretty sure Quentin Tarantian says about as much 3x as much as this guy does on set.
@@samuelmarekmracka I'm sorry. I don't understand your comment to my comment. I made an observation based on years of first-person experience and second-hand knowledge and gave several examples of known well-respected film directors to look at for inspiration. Your assumption is incorrect, especially if you understood the context of what I wrote, with you turning away from the subject (this guy and his counter-productive, confusing non-stop yammering) and making it about me. There are as many ways to direct a film as there are directors. But this guy's methodology shouldn't be one of them. Every job has basic expectations/ assumptions about quality. Why prove yourself substandard every time you open your mouth? BTW, when I met Tarantino, he was an ass to everyone, a disappointment to all, and the people I know who worked with him would never do it again and don't even put it on their resume. He's an ugly person, making ugly films, any way you look at it. He's not worthy of discussion. At least with this kid, there's hope he finds the wisdom to be quiet.
Awesome!!! I’m just a huge fan of BTS projects, giving an insight on what it makes a movie Is the best classroom experience you can get! Can’t wait to it comes out!!!🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
Let me know what you think! Should I make more videos like this?
Sure
yea man! that was fun to watch. The teaser link doesn't work tho!
YES!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾
Definitely Zach!!
yes
This is gold to anyone who has never been on set. It's also gold to anyone who has been on set because you made some excellent points about everyone's roles and having one main point person for creative decisions.
There's always a fine line for me when everyone is looking at you for a decision and the clock is ticking and everyone also wants to put in their creative 2 cents. How do you shut that down when they might have a better idea? How do you keep everything staying on track so you don't have paralysis by analysis? That's always the struggle for me on the smaller productions like this. Often times, budget and time constraints can hinder creativity and quality (lighting, blocking and coverage) but ultimately you have to get all of the shots in.
So true DJ. It means a lot that you put light on this. I really wanted to emphasize those moments in this. I'm working on a new vid right now that dials in on those things directly!
Can't wait to see it!! 🙏🏾
HES GONNA GET TO 100K so soooooon
This is so useful to see and some great tips. Would love to see more stuff like this!
YES WOO!!! MORE TO COME! Next one is on my feature length POV zombie film haha
Zach, Excellent instructive video with valuable honest comments about your personal film making experience.
As I am also planning soon to make a full feature film, based on a personal dramatic script, so sharing your first hand experience in the way you present it is very helpful and much appreciated!
Also, I watched Clementine and was really pleasantly surprised to watch a well made short by someone so early in their career. When watching it, most of the scenes were quite cinematic as if they belonged in a major production. This was a clever and thoughtful Sci-Fi with just the right amount of edginess that didn't need to rely on excessive violence and gore. The background sound was great in building suspense and was not over the top. The lighting and editing were spot on. Also, I could see that you took pains to choose great shots and angles for your scenes especially where the Girl goes outside and walks around.
I have a question though, and this may be just me not getting it, or not understanding some crucial dialogue. I understand that the Girl was either an AI robot or an augmented human . So why did the mother, who obviously loved the Girl, and the other "intruder" try to capture and lock her in the room and then reprogram her. What was wrong with the "Girl" in the first place. Why did the parents have to dress up as intruders to do this?
Richard
Congrats on 100K 👏🏼👏🏼
Thank you!!
aweome ! thank you for sharing ! the short film was great... very cinematic.
Man This was AWESOME!!!!! DUDE you nailed it😂 a real director.......great man congrats😂😂😂😂😂
Love this! Thank you for sharing this with us. Your videos are so informative.
Would love to see more brother. Blows my mind every time seeing how many moving pieces go into a film. This stuff only helps me be better at my job!
Hey man! I loved it. Thank you so much for this video. Now I am going to watch the teaser of the short film
You should definitely make more videos like this. This really is interesting "making of" - and the best way to learn from what other people have done is to see and hear how they've done it... if you can't be on the set working with them. Which would be the best way of course😀(It's always good to hear from the challenges and the solutions on set too, because it's so different when you have to solve it right there and then.)
Would love to see not just a budget breakdown but also a breakdown of what it would have cost if everything had been paid for. No-one ever talks about this. Its great to utilise friends etc but it would be amzing to see how much that 'free' work or reduced rates actually changes the budget.
Amazing stuff by the way
this is put together really well, felt like watching a good documentary🙌🏽
This is very valuable. Embarking on another short film shoot of my own as a director next week, and this helps me finetune my approach. Thank you.
Zach thank you for those valuable insights! Can not wait to watch the final edit!
This is so fire!👏🏾👏🏾
Hey, man. Really good stuff. Very happy for you and congrats, you and your team!
Hey, thanks!
Love this. Thanks for sharing!
I have a shoot tomorrow and this was very helpful. Thank you!
I love this type of videos!!
Woooo! What did you like about it?
Congratulations you've reached 100k subscribers 🎉🎊
I really enjoyed this BTS video, and the previous one. The way you explained the purpose of a director was solid GOLD. It's something a lot of younger filmmakers don't realize, and either listen to everyone - leading to a 'too many cooks' situation, or they go the other way and try to be an auteur and don't let anyone speak into the film. There is a balance, and I believe you've found it. I was curious as to why (especially if you're concerned with spoilers) you released these BTS videos before the film and not after?
This comment really means a lot! I looked on the internet for stuff like this for a while, then decided to just make one - ha!
Thanks Joshua. I realized that most film people will watch bts before they see the film. I also just can't sit on 🔥🔥🔥 this for too long.
@@ZachRamelan That's the way to do it! And yeah, that makes sense. The teaser looks great; I can't wait to check out the final product! I've been following your stuff since you posted FREELANCER on Film Riot's channel. I'd kill for the chance to work with you guys. Keep up the great content!
Thatnk you for sharing your work process with us!
Work fast, work hard. Be ambitious and think in possibilities and solutions.
And you will pull this off.
Love it!
So much to learn from this experience
Congratulations on reaching 100k subs 😊 great video
Thank you so much 😀
Hey man, love what you're making, I'm shooting my first decent short film in a week, hope it turns out good
Good luck with filming! Send it when you're done! DM @zachramelan
Of all the film festivals I've attended to, I've seen selections that don't make sense, films shot with a smartphone, recorded in a bathroom, edited with Windows Movie Maker... in conclusion, the topic of this video doesn't exist, there's no "festival level"
When can we see the hole movie? Can’t wait, congrats
Love these. So much knowledge
Glad you like them! Love you!
Really cool BTS style! Thoroughly enjoyed this.
Really great
Job. I am a film teacher and I will definitely subscribe and with your permission use this video to teach….
Please do! That would be amazing!
Any tips on script, how should be the story, at exactly what point should the plot be revealed. Would help a let if you share it. Nice video though 😊
Thanks for the idea! I'll make a video on this!
Nik Pilecki is truly a genius
Couldn't agree more!
SUPER HELPFUL!! 🙌🏾 Gained a sub!
Thanks for the sub! WOOO
What would be epic, is making a similar video like this but using budget camera and equipment
Fabulous confidence
I would so love to be part of your film crew 😍
keep making more so insightful
Thank you! I will! Anything you'd like to see next?
This video was incredibly helpful! Did you go to film school?
How to find or make a logo like you used in your thumnail??
So good! Thanks for sharing the process! I'm already subscribed, I can't subscribe anymore.... I'll tell some friends though.
Aaron!!!! YES!!! Thanks for watching and subscribing! MUCH MUCH LOVE!
how did you get the music for this?
keep doing great work..
Thank you, you too!
LOVE BTS!!! Real insight into the rationale and workings in the production of the film. MORE!!! 👍
Nice bts 🔥
Kind of wish you did a faux sponsor ad for RAINBOW CROCS mid video!! 😜
Bhahaha I love this!!! Let's get crocs to sponsor the next vid - haha
teaser not available, please post a different link
Just linked it! thanks!
the way you pronounce Arri is killing me. But great video :)
Canadians?
"Festival level film"? Film festivals are not designed to screen the quality of the films they show. It cost filmmakers money to "enter" and the "festivals" show films based on nepotism, populist second-guessing, and advertising/studio backers. Mostly, "festivals" are created and run for the low-level wannabe filmmakers to get recognition for themselves, not other peoples' movies, sort of like artists who open galleries and hope other artists work will bring in clients to buy the owners' work so they don't pay a commission. "Winning" a festival gives no more authority or prestige than a perfect attendance merit from grade school.
I've been making films for forty years and I can't imagine spending this much time talking, talking, talking. This is NOT Roger Corman style shooting, to say the least. Clint Eastwood hasn't said this much in all the years of directing combined. Woody Allen reportedly has never had a conversation with his cinematographer. By the time you find the spot, set the lights, block, describe the shot to five different people and all that, half the day is gone and you're exhausted. Also, as a "communicator"/leader, the full-bore, manic, rapid-fire monologue of "sort of", "like", "kind of", "you know", etc. isn't a confidence builder (and this is from someone who doesn't do rehearsals, shot lists, storyboards, clappers, breakdowns). All that emoting, waving hands and jumping around, is exhausting to watch and listen to. Calm down, focus, and only speak for necessity, otherwise, whether you are aware of it or not, you create chaos from frenetic energy. I suspect you think "mania high" excitement is synonymous with "creativity".
There is more than one way to make film. You seem to be under the impression that any other way than the one you are used to / expect is incorrect. I agree in that, clearly, the guy is a bit nervous on set and that's something he should work on, but a high energy style of directing is no worse than a brooding one; I'm pretty sure Quentin Tarantian says about as much 3x as much as this guy does on set.
@@samuelmarekmracka I'm sorry. I don't understand your comment to my comment. I made an observation based on years of first-person experience and second-hand knowledge and gave several examples of known well-respected film directors to look at for inspiration. Your assumption is incorrect, especially if you understood the context of what I wrote, with you turning away from the subject (this guy and his counter-productive, confusing non-stop yammering) and making it about me. There are as many ways to direct a film as there are directors. But this guy's methodology shouldn't be one of them. Every job has basic expectations/ assumptions about quality. Why prove yourself substandard every time you open your mouth? BTW, when I met Tarantino, he was an ass to everyone, a disappointment to all, and the people I know who worked with him would never do it again and don't even put it on their resume. He's an ugly person, making ugly films, any way you look at it. He's not worthy of discussion. At least with this kid, there's hope he finds the wisdom to be quiet.
Awesome!!! I’m just a huge fan of BTS projects, giving an insight on what it makes a movie Is the best classroom experience you can get! Can’t wait to it comes out!!!🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
HES GONNA GET TO 100K so soooooon
Mark Bone is my Dad!