College is lowkey a scam tbh. First year for me and it was kinda trash. Professors are kinda baised (or way too baised) like i studied my ass off and still got bad grades and even failed a class... You can never please them, unless, as you said yourself "you lick their ass". But it shall soon end and hopefully we can achieve the dreams and goals we set ourselves.
Yeah, I think it is lowkey a scam. First year for me was also pretty bad, but I hope it will eventually get better for you. I already failed a ton of classes so don’t worry too much about it! You will catch up eventually, just have to do it at your own rhythm. Seeing people get ahead of you can take a toll on a person mentally, but honestly I’ve gotten quite numb to it. Just like you said, the professors are definitely biased and it is very frustrating… Yes, for me only two more years and I’m already thinking of a plan to keep on investing in the things that i truly like doing. This is just a fraction of our lives, there’s a whole world out there :)
@@silentreunion well i studied a shit ton i gave it my all, i did all homeworks and presentations. I didn't miss anything. And somehow still got shitty grades. One professor still failed me despite studying 3 days and nights on his class alone. And someone some girls (who are pretty of course) just walked in there and literally didn't know anything but made the professor laugh and got the best grade. Somehow all the girls had perfect scores, and none of the guys came even close in terms of grades. Makes you really wonder...
Yeah it truly makes you wonder… It just goes to prove that to get far you have to do more than just work your ass off (and honestly it is quite pathetic and unfair). Sometimes all it takes is to have a beautiful face and to know how to speak. I myself, have become frustrated because of that. The world truly is unfair, but that’s how it works…
I kinda get your rant... but, ye, it feels off to me and probably it's just your personal experience. I agree of course that having a degree doesn't make you a better person. Nor being smart makes you a better person honestly. I too hate authoritative figures (and never clean asses) but I got a lot out of college... even good "connections" just by discussing topics of interest with the professors and from time to time getting some research experience. I can't say peers (i feel like my peers don't really share my thirst for knowledge and I'm kinda the hard to approach guy like you are), but professors yeah. I'm just saying this because in the video I feel like you are painting people in the wrong way, or at least doing a too broad generalisation and I have been mistreated by many people IRL and called a bootlicker, yet I have a deep disdain for authorities. I don't know if I help or not, but better than a "method of study", I think changing the way you study is better... I just took the routine to go to the library from 8am to 18pm everyday... I can't really study well if I'm not set to it - maybe you can try. I don't know. At last, generally, yeah, it's all about living your study time with ease, avoid stress. I'm not stressed at all... I think you can find some books recommended by one of your courses... Read it 100% taking your time. Discuss it with your professor etc... Try to enjoy it, reframe your time spent on the books - Sorry if the comment isn't realle sequential, but I'm just writing down some thoughts about your non-sequential points - tl;dr I think you are discussing about just your experience and that your generalisations are... straight up false. Wish you the best and that you can find your passion -
Yeah, it is mostly my personal opinion. I think I am in an environment that makes me believe that I can generalize my experience, because I dont know anything outside of it. Thank you so much for your advice, I truly admire people like you who seek knowledge and truly like the art of learning. I think my biggest problem is that I am studying a subject that I am not interested in and am constantly being disappointed by. I wanted something more challenging and that was more aligned with my own personal interests, but I made a wrong decision. It was both by force and also by fear of taking a risk and following what I wanted to do. So I believe that is why I have trouble with the idea of immersing myself in this course. I am trying so hard to like it but I just can’t. Either way, I deeply appreciate your point of view on the situation and I will definitely try to change my perspective on this situation! Thank you! Ps: love ur pf picture! Just realized it os from Omori! Love that game!! Wish you all the best!
@@silentreunion Uh, I've read your reply and re-read mine and I've noticed that my reply comes off as a rant too and it's not really adequate to address the real topic of the video, which is your dissatisfaction; sorry for that - Fact is that I was being badmouthed (and it came particularly easy to the perpetrators, because I was kinda the outcast), especially in undergraduate, and I didn't like it. People who I didn't even know the name of. So, I didn't like your video as well, mostly. Anyway, I want to give you some insider infos, coming from my personal experience both in undergraduate and grad school. You can try to check if my "model of the world" can fit what sorrounds you as well, or if it does partially, and update your understanding of the world. I hope in a positive way. This applies to eventual reader of this conversations too, who might easily agree with your generalisation due to personal reasons. I want to specify that I'm European (I know, for example, that you guys go crazy for undergrad admissions and rankings of private institutions... your environment is a competition driven one from the start-) and I study Applied mathematics, so... not really med school nor american college. My point is that the system isn't really "rigged" the way you paint it to be (it is, but in other ways, in my opinion), at least until you don't get into research, PhD etc... and only in particular fields (and it isn't the kind of rigging you talk about... it's worse probably). About top achieving students: 1) There are students who know that they are playing a game. They know that to have a better start in the workplace it's better to have extracurricular activities and they put the extrawork into that instead that into the theory... these students usually use notes, common questions etc to pass their exams with the least time investment possible because they want to dedicate their time to something else. Most cases, they pass the exams and get good grades, but they aren't "excellent". They do care about networking with other similar students/top achieving students/professors , but they make it clear that it is a "business relationship"... there is no manipulation involved. In my opinion, It's really easy to enter their circles of notes, you just have to ask - I think that professors like replying to their questions because they usually ask business/project related questions, like "how to apply X to Y?" or "am I in the situation that you have described in lecture X?", which is more thought provoking than "can you please repeat what you have already told" or just a complain about difficulty or similar. It's a positive loop feedback, because, if you put yourself in your professor's shoes, they have hundreds of emails and most of them are those boring emails and having some thought provoking question is a good surprise. All of this doesn't really help at all with grades during the exam because you usually take the course, then find the situation in which to apply the knowledge, so... you already have your grade when you get in touch with the professor. I don't think that there is a "personality" for these kind of students - You can meet them in many shapes and forms. Their only real common trait is the knowledge of the game and paranoia about their future. Most of them aren't psychos and have indeed empathy - 2) You can also find students who pass all courses and get the same good grades just by using such notes and by doing the minimum, but never get in touch with professors or do extras... just smart people who aren't particularly paranoid about their future. They play the game - 3) Bookworms. People who enjoy reading their books. These people usually spend most of their time reading books... probably the rarest kind of student, but you find many of them in PhD programs. They usually get streaks of top grades and even pursue personal knowledge outside of the courses. They get in contact with the professors because they know that having a teacher is useful (more in finding questions than answers). Again, they ask thought provoking questions coming from details found in recommended books or from their extracurricular interests, which starts the positive loop feedback. They may want to dive deeper into the topics and look for professors who are researching in those topics and ask if they can assist. Most of them aren't that interested in money, else they wouldn't be overrepresented in PhD programs. Again, you can find them in many shapes and forms... maybe the real common trait here is the usual thoughtfulness that you expect from someone that can sit on a book for hours. About professors: There are many kinds here too... some are frustrated by their jobs more than others. Remember to put yourself in their shoes. They get many emails... most of them are boring and some of them are nuisances (like complaints about the difficulty of an assignment or people who ask how to complete it directly). You can understand that finding a good email can brighten the mood and make you feel like you are doing something more than just spurting notions, like inspiring some young lad. Do some professors sardonically judge bad achieving students? Sadly, yes. Even professors come in many shapes - they wish the best for their students in quite all cases, but some professors are harsh when you fail regardless. Of course they won't tell you and will forget your name soon enough, but "why the fuck these guys are here if they aren't even trying" is a common thought. Some are more lenient in their considerations towards students, some are less. I had this thought too when helping a professor correcting Calc 1 exams... It came to mind naturally (I'm not perfect at all) - then, I've quickly realised (after finishing the thing, with calm mind) that learning is hard, not all humans are the same and that most of them are 19yos, so they can't really assess how they should study for an exam like that (like the guy in the comment below, who thinks studying 3 whole days is enough, let alone a good idea...). tl;dr: people aren't psychos. A thing that I think differentiate most of the good students is that they don't study "to pass the exam" (which is an apprehensive thought) but for other reasons. They have other more "long-term" goals. Networking is useful, bot not that much in getting good grades, and you don't really have to be "a psycho extrovert" to get a network. If you want some help, just ask - You don't have to have real relationships with your peers if you don't want to (but, I kinda get from your video that you want to -), but people would gladly help regardless. I would and most would (things like sharing notes or knowledge)... This said, just two words about the real content of the video: your dissatisfaction. There is not much to do, you are in a bad spot. I think most of the times we are just given what we are given and we have to adapt to it... I still think that the degree will help you in life just by itself. If you need help, ask people. Again, try to reframe the reason you sit on the books for and to find a routine (you will be a dentist, right? Don't you want to be the least painful possible to your future clients? Or the one keeping their teeth or a particular teeth the best possible? Many things you may want to study to be the best at... you are the dentist, so you know better than me). If you can't manage it, just live by... It won't matter much in the end. If you like writing, why don't you try it in your free time? There is plenty of resources online and, honestly, I think that to learn how to write you just have to read the best books and acquire insights. That's how writing is taught in Europe, even in academia (we have a very different culture though, both about history and storytelling) - You are young and you are far from being too late. Indeed, another problem with college is the expectations. I think that college isn't represented for what it really is in media. To me, it seems that it's represented just as "youth and fun life of rich people" and not for what it is... a place to learn. I mean, I couldn't have gone to parties/bars/pubs even if I wanted, that kind of life is too expensive. But, if you think about college just as a place to dedicate yourself to knowledge, you actually get what you ask for. Just don't overthink about the pressure of the exams. I have written a huge essay and it took me 50 minutes huuuh. Good luck reading this. Thank you for taking my point of view into consideration. I don't think I deserve any kind of admiration and I perceive it as flattery, but thank you for that too anyway - I won't write anything else, so... wish you the best - (ye, I listen to Omori soundtrack for hours and hours. glad you like it too)
College is lowkey a scam tbh. First year for me and it was kinda trash. Professors are kinda baised (or way too baised) like i studied my ass off and still got bad grades and even failed a class... You can never please them, unless, as you said yourself "you lick their ass". But it shall soon end and hopefully we can achieve the dreams and goals we set ourselves.
Yeah, I think it is lowkey a scam. First year for me was also pretty bad, but I hope it will eventually get better for you. I already failed a ton of classes so don’t worry too much about it! You will catch up eventually, just have to do it at your own rhythm. Seeing people get ahead of you can take a toll on a person mentally, but honestly I’ve gotten quite numb to it.
Just like you said, the professors are definitely biased and it is very frustrating…
Yes, for me only two more years and I’m already thinking of a plan to keep on investing in the things that i truly like doing.
This is just a fraction of our lives, there’s a whole world out there :)
@@silentreunion well i studied a shit ton i gave it my all, i did all homeworks and presentations. I didn't miss anything. And somehow still got shitty grades. One professor still failed me despite studying 3 days and nights on his class alone.
And someone some girls (who are pretty of course) just walked in there and literally didn't know anything but made the professor laugh and got the best grade. Somehow all the girls had perfect scores, and none of the guys came even close in terms of grades.
Makes you really wonder...
Yeah it truly makes you wonder… It just goes to prove that to get far you have to do more than just work your ass off (and honestly it is quite pathetic and unfair). Sometimes all it takes is to have a beautiful face and to know how to speak. I myself, have become frustrated because of that. The world truly is unfair, but that’s how it works…
A sua faculdade é pública ou particular? (Se é que faz alguma diferença...)
Pública
I kinda get your rant... but, ye, it feels off to me and probably it's just your personal experience. I agree of course that having a degree doesn't make you a better person. Nor being smart makes you a better person honestly.
I too hate authoritative figures (and never clean asses) but I got a lot out of college... even good "connections" just by discussing topics of interest with the professors and from time to time getting some research experience. I can't say peers (i feel like my peers don't really share my thirst for knowledge and I'm kinda the hard to approach guy like you are), but professors yeah. I'm just saying this because in the video I feel like you are painting people in the wrong way, or at least doing a too broad generalisation and I have been mistreated by many people IRL and called a bootlicker, yet I have a deep disdain for authorities.
I don't know if I help or not, but better than a "method of study", I think changing the way you study is better... I just took the routine to go to the library from 8am to 18pm everyday... I can't really study well if I'm not set to it - maybe you can try. I don't know.
At last, generally, yeah, it's all about living your study time with ease, avoid stress. I'm not stressed at all... I think you can find some books recommended by one of your courses... Read it 100% taking your time. Discuss it with your professor etc... Try to enjoy it, reframe your time spent on the books -
Sorry if the comment isn't realle sequential, but I'm just writing down some thoughts about your non-sequential points -
tl;dr I think you are discussing about just your experience and that your generalisations are... straight up false. Wish you the best and that you can find your passion -
Yeah, it is mostly my personal opinion. I think I am in an environment that makes me believe that I can generalize my experience, because I dont know anything outside of it.
Thank you so much for your advice, I truly admire people like you who seek knowledge and truly like the art of learning.
I think my biggest problem is that I am studying a subject that I am not interested in and am constantly being disappointed by. I wanted something more challenging and that was more aligned with my own personal interests, but I made a wrong decision. It was both by force and also by fear of taking a risk and following what I wanted to do.
So I believe that is why I have trouble with the idea of immersing myself in this course. I am trying so hard to like it but I just can’t.
Either way, I deeply appreciate your point of view on the situation and I will definitely try to change my perspective on this situation!
Thank you!
Ps: love ur pf picture! Just realized it os from Omori! Love that game!!
Wish you all the best!
@@silentreunion Uh, I've read your reply and re-read mine and I've noticed that my reply comes off as a rant too and it's not really adequate to address the real topic of the video, which is your dissatisfaction; sorry for that - Fact is that I was being badmouthed (and it came particularly easy to the perpetrators, because I was kinda the outcast), especially in undergraduate, and I didn't like it. People who I didn't even know the name of. So, I didn't like your video as well, mostly.
Anyway, I want to give you some insider infos, coming from my personal experience both in undergraduate and grad school. You can try to check if my "model of the world" can fit what sorrounds you as well, or if it does partially, and update your understanding of the world. I hope in a positive way. This applies to eventual reader of this conversations too, who might easily agree with your generalisation due to personal reasons. I want to specify that I'm European (I know, for example, that you guys go crazy for undergrad admissions and rankings of private institutions... your environment is a competition driven one from the start-) and I study Applied mathematics, so... not really med school nor american college. My point is that the system isn't really "rigged" the way you paint it to be (it is, but in other ways, in my opinion), at least until you don't get into research, PhD etc... and only in particular fields (and it isn't the kind of rigging you talk about... it's worse probably).
About top achieving students:
1) There are students who know that they are playing a game.
They know that to have a better start in the workplace it's better to have extracurricular activities and they put the extrawork into that instead that into the theory... these students usually use notes, common questions etc to pass their exams with the least time investment possible because they want to dedicate their time to something else. Most cases, they pass the exams and get good grades, but they aren't "excellent". They do care about networking with other similar students/top achieving students/professors , but they make it clear that it is a "business relationship"... there is no manipulation involved. In my opinion, It's really easy to enter their circles of notes, you just have to ask -
I think that professors like replying to their questions because they usually ask business/project related questions, like "how to apply X to Y?" or "am I in the situation that you have described in lecture X?", which is more thought provoking than "can you please repeat what you have already told" or just a complain about difficulty or similar. It's a positive loop feedback, because, if you put yourself in your professor's shoes, they have hundreds of emails and most of them are those boring emails and having some thought provoking question is a good surprise. All of this doesn't really help at all with grades during the exam because you usually take the course, then find the situation in which to apply the knowledge, so... you already have your grade when you get in touch with the professor.
I don't think that there is a "personality" for these kind of students - You can meet them in many shapes and forms. Their only real common trait is the knowledge of the game and paranoia about their future. Most of them aren't psychos and have indeed empathy -
2) You can also find students who pass all courses and get the same good grades just by using such notes and by doing the minimum, but never get in touch with professors or do extras... just smart people who aren't particularly paranoid about their future. They play the game -
3) Bookworms. People who enjoy reading their books.
These people usually spend most of their time reading books... probably the rarest kind of student, but you find many of them in PhD programs. They usually get streaks of top grades and even pursue personal knowledge outside of the courses. They get in contact with the professors because they know that having a teacher is useful (more in finding questions than answers). Again, they ask thought provoking questions coming from details found in recommended books or from their extracurricular interests, which starts the positive loop feedback. They may want to dive deeper into the topics and look for professors who are researching in those topics and ask if they can assist. Most of them aren't that interested in money, else they wouldn't be overrepresented in PhD programs. Again, you can find them in many shapes and forms... maybe the real common trait here is the usual thoughtfulness that you expect from someone that can sit on a book for hours.
About professors:
There are many kinds here too... some are frustrated by their jobs more than others. Remember to put yourself in their shoes. They get many emails... most of them are boring and some of them are nuisances (like complaints about the difficulty of an assignment or people who ask how to complete it directly). You can understand that finding a good email can brighten the mood and make you feel like you are doing something more than just spurting notions, like inspiring some young lad. Do some professors sardonically judge bad achieving students? Sadly, yes. Even professors come in many shapes - they wish the best for their students in quite all cases, but some professors are harsh when you fail regardless. Of course they won't tell you and will forget your name soon enough, but "why the fuck these guys are here if they aren't even trying" is a common thought. Some are more lenient in their considerations towards students, some are less. I had this thought too when helping a professor correcting Calc 1 exams... It came to mind naturally (I'm not perfect at all) - then, I've quickly realised (after finishing the thing, with calm mind) that learning is hard, not all humans are the same and that most of them are 19yos, so they can't really assess how they should study for an exam like that (like the guy in the comment below, who thinks studying 3 whole days is enough, let alone a good idea...).
tl;dr: people aren't psychos. A thing that I think differentiate most of the good students is that they don't study "to pass the exam" (which is an apprehensive thought) but for other reasons. They have other more "long-term" goals. Networking is useful, bot not that much in getting good grades, and you don't really have to be "a psycho extrovert" to get a network. If you want some help, just ask - You don't have to have real relationships with your peers if you don't want to (but, I kinda get from your video that you want to -), but people would gladly help regardless. I would and most would (things like sharing notes or knowledge)...
This said, just two words about the real content of the video: your dissatisfaction. There is not much to do, you are in a bad spot. I think most of the times we are just given what we are given and we have to adapt to it... I still think that the degree will help you in life just by itself. If you need help, ask people. Again, try to reframe the reason you sit on the books for and to find a routine (you will be a dentist, right? Don't you want to be the least painful possible to your future clients? Or the one keeping their teeth or a particular teeth the best possible? Many things you may want to study to be the best at... you are the dentist, so you know better than me). If you can't manage it, just live by... It won't matter much in the end. If you like writing, why don't you try it in your free time? There is plenty of resources online and, honestly, I think that to learn how to write you just have to read the best books and acquire insights. That's how writing is taught in Europe, even in academia (we have a very different culture though, both about history and storytelling) - You are young and you are far from being too late.
Indeed, another problem with college is the expectations. I think that college isn't represented for what it really is in media. To me, it seems that it's represented just as "youth and fun life of rich people" and not for what it is... a place to learn. I mean, I couldn't have gone to parties/bars/pubs even if I wanted, that kind of life is too expensive. But, if you think about college just as a place to dedicate yourself to knowledge, you actually get what you ask for. Just don't overthink about the pressure of the exams.
I have written a huge essay and it took me 50 minutes huuuh. Good luck reading this. Thank you for taking my point of view into consideration. I don't think I deserve any kind of admiration and I perceive it as flattery, but thank you for that too anyway - I won't write anything else, so... wish you the best -
(ye, I listen to Omori soundtrack for hours and hours. glad you like it too)
College é faculdade em inglês?
É sim!
@@silentreunion Ata kkkkk