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  • @mynameisjeff92
    @mynameisjeff92 8 месяцев назад +390

    TKO wanted us to forget about Vince by booking this Wrestlemania in a extremely Vince way😂😂😂

    • @Youngjas17
      @Youngjas17 8 месяцев назад +12

      Ya you are right about that I agree with you

    • @horgh_japan
      @horgh_japan 8 месяцев назад +6

      It may also be a happy accident that people gave so much attention to this. One way or the other, the pro-Cody camp will likely react by being EXTRA loud for Cody and buying more of his merch. Plus, Rock isn't completely against being a heel and will make a fine non-wrestling heel for Cody to struggle against. Stone Cold/McMahon part deux.
      I mean, remember when McMahon turned heel following the screwjob?
      Oooh ooh, even better! Cody turns heel and joins forces with The Rock as a corporate champ. Unless Cody is adamant about not being heel, this could make for NUCLEAR heat because fans are gullible.
      TKO wins this big time and HHH gets to breathe a little bit. "Bad booking" is one thing, your father-in-law being accused of awful acts, the feds getting involved and your company being embroiled in it is another.

    • @MrJonnyl123
      @MrJonnyl123 8 месяцев назад +8

      They are going to make the hardcore fans ‘eat shit and like the taste of it’ at mania as a final tribute to vince

    • @jonjohnson1978.
      @jonjohnson1978. 8 месяцев назад +1

      😅

    • @mezykin
      @mezykin 8 месяцев назад +5

      in an extremely Vince Russo way too ;)

  • @MrRyanlennie2005
    @MrRyanlennie2005 8 месяцев назад +283

    They made Cody look a total chump.

    • @Youngjas17
      @Youngjas17 8 месяцев назад +5

      Yup that’s true

    • @MrJonnyl123
      @MrJonnyl123 8 месяцев назад +17

      He looked like a little school boy next to the rock 😂

    • @Vision32599
      @Vision32599 8 месяцев назад +2

      This hurt Cody feelings

    • @reeseangle9621
      @reeseangle9621 8 месяцев назад +11

      It was like when Bret said go get him Hogan

    • @user-rx2hw8up2j
      @user-rx2hw8up2j 8 месяцев назад +2

      It was like lex Luger celebrating countout summerslam 93 for me his character is a wuss I can't get behind that weak

  • @shotgunnsean
    @shotgunnsean 8 месяцев назад +64

    Nobody wanted HHH vs Roman at WM. They booed. They still went ahead and did a 30 minute match.

    • @smackdowngod
      @smackdowngod 8 месяцев назад +2

      I forgot about that. I guess it wasn’t as uneventful as they thought it would be.

    • @elilass8410
      @elilass8410 8 месяцев назад +10

      At least both of them could wrestle semi-decently. The Rock certainly can't, and Roman can't carry him through thirty minutes.

    • @Two-ToneMoonStone
      @Two-ToneMoonStone 8 месяцев назад +1

      At least Triple H could still go, there match wasn't that bad either tbh

    • @KruelAidMan
      @KruelAidMan 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Two-ToneMoonStone it sucked lol

  • @Shisui5752
    @Shisui5752 8 месяцев назад +19

    What we're witnessing here is TKO directly interfering with the product. I don't see any good coming out of this if they continue to do this.

  • @ShaqFuGuru
    @ShaqFuGuru 8 месяцев назад +15

    This buried Seth and his title, deflates Cody who is super over, and will lead to the rock getting some boos.
    This is shit.

  • @rectangledgalaxy8033
    @rectangledgalaxy8033 8 месяцев назад +151

    People are mad at the rock in the real world too. In the dc and fast and furious he basically has turbulence for the same shit he's doing here to cody, booking himself as the main event in all media.

    • @askabumm
      @askabumm 8 месяцев назад +10

      Oh shut up! The fact is that The Rock is way more over than Cody could ever hope to be

    • @rectangledgalaxy8033
      @rectangledgalaxy8033 8 месяцев назад +34

      @askabumm I didn't even say if he was or wasn't. I just said there's a percent out there that isn't thrilled when they hear the Rock. So idk what you want me to say.

    • @ThePindar
      @ThePindar 8 месяцев назад +46

      ​@@askabummCody is way more over than the rock, people who think the contrary are the same people that only tune in for wrestlemania aka casual casuals

    • @SlimJim_Magoo
      @SlimJim_Magoo 8 месяцев назад +24

      And the Oprah Hawaii thing

    • @askabumm
      @askabumm 8 месяцев назад

      @@ThePindar Cody is more over than THE ROCK?!?!?! WHAT?!?!??!!? I swear the planet you smarks live on is so far away that it hasnt even been discovered yet 🤣🤣🤣

  • @jasonh.2439
    @jasonh.2439 8 месяцев назад +22

    The question is, what did HHH know and when did he know it. If TKO and Nick Khan are gonna be in the business of making side deals without involving the head of creative, we're in for a world of trouble going forward.

    • @hezekiahramirez6965
      @hezekiahramirez6965 8 месяцев назад +6

      Levesque needs to answer that question about a few different things

  • @CloneJFK
    @CloneJFK 8 месяцев назад +77

    If the deal was already done on January 3, either Triple H knew and is the biggest moron on the planet for booking Cody to win the Rumble, or he DIDN’T know and the top management of the company straight up kept their creative head in the dark and made him look like a doofus. Neither sounds promising.

    • @christophermarriott1681
      @christophermarriott1681 8 месяцев назад +18

      Trips is the doofus son-in-law. 😂

    • @thegreatattila
      @thegreatattila 8 месяцев назад +12

      CM Punk did refer to H as the doofus son in law.

    • @DK-BayBay
      @DK-BayBay 8 месяцев назад +15

      I'm assuming he was in the dark, because I expect him to be fired at some point. With the VKM news, a clean house is what is bound to happen. No way he didn't enable because I believe he knew most, if not all of what was going on. If ppl believe Steph knew, he did too. Its why Gerwitz is back. He will take over booking at some point. Probably post WM. But for sure TKO will clear house with a statement saying theyve got rid of everyone involved and established a new culture

    • @hiddensword9387
      @hiddensword9387 8 месяцев назад +3

      As Meltzer said, they've made decisions like this before and business has boomed.

    • @mattb6616
      @mattb6616 8 месяцев назад

      ​​@@DK-BayBayhow is triple h getting caught in Vince's shit but Rock isn't? Rock was Vince's best friend in the attitude era. You think they weren't banging rats together?

  • @ThaddeusBigsby
    @ThaddeusBigsby 8 месяцев назад +27

    Philly here!
    We booed The Rock and Roman back in 2015 Royal Rumble, and we have no problem booing them in 2024.

    • @djowers1349
      @djowers1349 8 месяцев назад +5

      I have been saying to the few people who sorta like wrestling but don't know much. Phily is the worst city to try to do something like this in.

    • @DJSpike-ft9yw
      @DJSpike-ft9yw 8 месяцев назад

      Philly, you are a city of assholes...but America and Wrestling need you for this sacred duty. Be your best asshole selves and make the Wrestlemania 40 main event seem like Cena vs RVD at ECW ONS 2006...where both Roman and the Rock play Cena.

    • @ripman21
      @ripman21 8 месяцев назад

      The thing is the majority of people coming to WrestleMania for 2 days aren't from Philly

    • @TheManWhoFeIIToEarth
      @TheManWhoFeIIToEarth 8 месяцев назад +2

      Gonna need Philly to step up, don’t let us down

    • @JT82DETMI
      @JT82DETMI 8 месяцев назад +1

      just walk out right before match. that will set the wrestling world ablaze lol

  • @N4divers
    @N4divers 8 месяцев назад +5

    This whole thing is a disaster. It’s very Vince McMahon influenced. Even though he’s gone, things are going according to how he would do it and that’s scary

  • @Bahador.B
    @Bahador.B 8 месяцев назад +106

    I mean Rock is all about his own ego, so this seems normal. Dude been there 2 weeks and his nepo daughter is gm of nxt.

    • @silveredgrunion7196
      @silveredgrunion7196 8 месяцев назад

      I misunderstood what nepo was. At first I was like she does WHAT

    • @jamesmiller5331
      @jamesmiller5331 8 месяцев назад +12

      You caught that too? lol
      Dwayne has lost touch I guess... or doesn't GAF

    • @messey12
      @messey12 8 месяцев назад +8

      I've heard her on the mic. Yeah, she's absolutely benefiting from nepotism.

    • @shabazzed
      @shabazzed 8 месяцев назад

      better her than pedo shawn

    • @12ozmouse99
      @12ozmouse99 8 месяцев назад +3

      Nia and Trinity back too….Rock and his family all over the place and in prime spots. Watch both of those women end up in prime spots on the show even though no one cares.

  • @mezykin
    @mezykin 8 месяцев назад +24

    it's as if Vince Russo wrote 2024's WWE booking

    • @hezekiahramirez6965
      @hezekiahramirez6965 8 месяцев назад +3

      SWERVED YA, BRO!

    • @jamst123
      @jamst123 8 месяцев назад +2

      Russo put booker t over hogan so I doubt it

    • @mezykin
      @mezykin 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@jamst123 it was initially Jarrett who was supposed to go over Hogan but it's also a bit of a swerve in itself that Booker won it later on that evening. let's not forget Russo put the belt on David Arquette.

  • @Jacktrack7
    @Jacktrack7 8 месяцев назад +13

    I had a friend who used to take a drink everytime Meltzer said "you know" but he died of alcohol poisoning...

  • @jfh.8064
    @jfh.8064 8 месяцев назад +32

    To people saying this is a swerve to fool the fans and get Cody in the match.. how can they possibly make this make sense? It’s not like Cody got his match taken away in storyline and has to fight back for it like an underdog like Daniel Bryan. This was HIS choice. Cody had his shot, gave it up, and endorsed the Rock facing him at Mania. Cody declined Mania. So now he’s supposed to fight to be in the match that HE chose not to be in? There’s no route they can go now where it makes sense or makes Cody not look like an idiot. Dumbest WWE decision in a long time.

    • @christophermarriott1681
      @christophermarriott1681 8 месяцев назад +13

      Just buried the Rumble win pointless.

    • @hezekiahramirez6965
      @hezekiahramirez6965 8 месяцев назад +1

      It doesn't make sense. You're right. But none of this makes any sense. Why are we getting two different stories? Did Rock want to save Mania or was this the plan for the last month? Why is this coming out now? Who's talking and why? Why? Are they just trying to say "See? We're not as stupid as we looked! This was the plan!" to save face because they actually didn't plan it in advance and were embarrassed? Or did they lie before? Why did Dave get that other story? Something has to be going on. Gotta be. This doesn't add up

    • @johnrigs6540
      @johnrigs6540 8 месяцев назад +4

      No matter how WWE spins this it just looks STUPID.
      If this was their master plan - Cody winning the rumble and stepping aside for the Rock and angering the fans so Cody could be Daniel Bryan
      That’s STUPID.
      If they are just playing it straight and Cody is stepping aside and challenging Seth for the title with NO history and NO lineage
      Thats STUPID.
      So I don’t know what they are up to here but every way you look at it they just look really bad here.
      They really MUST pivot on this decision -
      Or it really will absolutely RUIN their biggest show of the year no matter how much money they all make.

    • @RavenGlenn
      @RavenGlenn 7 месяцев назад

      The only way I see to turn this around would be for it to be discovered that The Rock is a snake who weaseled his way in just to have a finger poke of doom moment at WM where he lies down for Roman.
      And then Cody manages to get into the match for a triple threat that is actually a handicap match and then Cody beats both of them.

    • @KruelAidMan
      @KruelAidMan 7 месяцев назад

      @@RavenGlenn WWE finally getting the match they've been trying for since the late 2010s and making it nothing would be hilarious.

  • @CursoryMercenary
    @CursoryMercenary 8 месяцев назад +155

    Fucking Dwayne inserting himself into the product.

    • @dannyadeada
      @dannyadeada 8 месяцев назад +11

      Have wrestling fans forgotten that Rock is the biggest star in the world and a top 3 GOAT? He is bigger than the industry he can do whatever he wants and fans will give him a thunderous ovation as he desreves.

    • @johnnysupreme5718
      @johnnysupreme5718 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@dannyadeadadwayne isn't gonna give you any money little brother calm down

    • @TheFragranceApprentice
      @TheFragranceApprentice 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@dannyadeadascrew old man Roids. 😅

    • @dxtremecaliber
      @dxtremecaliber 8 месяцев назад +17

      ⁠@@dannyadeadai dont care because he didnt do shit for the story he wasnt part of the build Cody Rhodes won the Rumble pointed at the Mania logo and to Roman
      i like Rock i thinks hes Top 3 hes my favorite wrestler of all-time ofc hes gonna get cheered hes the Fucking ROCK but this shit dont makes any sense because we all want is consistency in the storyline this is bullshit we are not dumb lol

    • @shalom8858
      @shalom8858 8 месяцев назад

      His fat daughter went from scrub to NXT general manager. Rock ruining 2 locker rooms.

  • @pepethunder
    @pepethunder 8 месяцев назад +8

    My worst idea for this was that Rock entered the Rumble at number 30 and won it, but despite how bad that idea was, they managed to top it.

  • @leadsin99er
    @leadsin99er 8 месяцев назад +15

    Meanwhile LA Knight is like, Hey Cody. Why didnt you offer the spot to me instead? I'm Fulltime. And I'm in line behind you.

  • @xagon2012
    @xagon2012 8 месяцев назад +19

    This is worse than Hogan at WM 9.

    • @Kratosx23
      @Kratosx23 8 месяцев назад +8

      At least Hogan had the decency to let Bret have the match first.

    • @MrJonnyl123
      @MrJonnyl123 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@Kratosx23Cody had his match last year and lost. How many chances does he needed to finish his little story? Someone else deserves a shot at Roman

    • @xagon2012
      @xagon2012 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@MrJonnyl123 Even if you feel so you gotta admit this was written terribly. First they have him win the Rumble, he points at the Wm sign with Roman, clearly signalling that he wants to fight him at WM, and then days later he just gives his spot to the Rock. That is bad writing.

    • @MrJonnyl123
      @MrJonnyl123 8 месяцев назад

      @@xagon2012 yeh they have made a mess of it. They should have had rock win the rumble

    • @mindrover777
      @mindrover777 8 месяцев назад

      Ok, so what​ about bailey choosing io after she choose rhea forest@@xagon2012

  • @Bandana_Boi
    @Bandana_Boi 8 месяцев назад +19

    The Rock's influence and power is being felt immediately and obviously. Make no mistake, the entire wrestling world is now controlled by the Anoa'i Family.

    • @christophermarriott1681
      @christophermarriott1681 8 месяцев назад +9

      Only WWE. The rest of the wrestling world doesn't live in WWE's fake dystopian universe.

  • @Insanemonk11
    @Insanemonk11 8 месяцев назад +9

    They couldn't of told many people, because Cody won, he climbed the turnbuckle, pointed AT ROMAN and said "I pick you"

  • @paulevans6076
    @paulevans6076 8 месяцев назад +35

    The crazy thing is at ANY other time the fans would have been more than happy with a Rock v Reigns feud, just not NOW. Its Codys time. End of. Simple as that.

    • @mrstifler8987
      @mrstifler8987 8 месяцев назад +3

      Cody’s time can be next year. Rock vs Roman needs to happen already.

    • @andrewcameron1556
      @andrewcameron1556 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@mrstifler8987it should have been Cody's time last year!

    • @MattyPeq
      @MattyPeq 8 месяцев назад

      Who gives a f about MidCardCodyno.

    • @MotherHen2012
      @MotherHen2012 8 месяцев назад

      @@MattyPeq Plenty of people just by the complaing on social media and the fact he's one of the highest merch movers....

  • @paulettegrazette771
    @paulettegrazette771 8 месяцев назад +24

    Nepotism at its best!! Rock besties with Nick Khan, Ari is the Rocks agent… priceless..

    • @juniorkhomari1850
      @juniorkhomari1850 8 месяцев назад +11

      And the rocks green daughter being named NXT manager. Which makes absolutely no sense

    • @bazzatheblue
      @bazzatheblue 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@juniorkhomari1850and the rest of the family who are on the books.Its a Polynesian mafia.

  • @johntucker7905
    @johntucker7905 8 месяцев назад +53

    WWE is just asking for "Boo-tista 2: Rock's Regret"

    • @chrisgainz69
      @chrisgainz69 8 месяцев назад +5

      Breakin' 2: The Most Electrifying Boo-galoo

    • @RandallWI
      @RandallWI 8 месяцев назад

      Yeahhh WWE needs to make Rock the ass hole hell he was in the nation / corporation at this point cause unless Cody is inserted into this match as part of a triple threat.... fans are going to boo Dwayne every chance they can.

  • @DK-BayBay
    @DK-BayBay 8 месяцев назад +2

    I just think its funny that WWE fans are so pissed off at one of the most beloved wrestlers of all time over a match that isnt official yet. And its something theyve wanted for years...over Cody Rhodes lol. Mad as hell over this, but the VKM stuff comes out, not a single talent asked for release or said a word, no fans boycott WWE, hell folks cheered him when the initial WSJ story dropped. But this match with fake wrestling has ppl up in arms. Its kinda comical.
    I agree, how they got there is stupid. But this is a business. Lots of changes will be happening over the next year. You'll see.

  • @X_Blake
    @X_Blake 8 месяцев назад +77

    Justice for Cody.

    • @dannyadeada
      @dannyadeada 8 месяцев назад +4

      Cody doesnt deserve shit. Rock draws

    • @RoninBgk
      @RoninBgk 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@dannyadeadayou need help

    • @christophernear6990
      @christophernear6990 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@dannyadeada and he's gonna lose to roman

    • @six6thdisciple
      @six6thdisciple 8 месяцев назад +7

      JUSTICE FOR JANEL GRANT

    • @RonJP-pm7jp
      @RonJP-pm7jp 8 месяцев назад +1

      I get what you’re saying but yeah it’s more serious stuff out there to get justice for. This is 1st world problems.

  • @calvinball1
    @calvinball1 8 месяцев назад +27

    I don't know how many people are like me, but I'm one of those Attitude era fans who is just recently giving the industry another look. I heard it was getting better. And with McMahon out, the political and ethical aspect of being a paid fan seemed like something I might consider again. But I don't want chaotic booking that undoes the Royal Rumble stakes. I don't need to see 51 year old Rock against Roman with no build. The only reason I'd tune in and pay is if I'm interested in the Women's division at this point.

    • @ChrisLT
      @ChrisLT 8 месяцев назад +1

      It's been really good, which makes this whole thing stand out even more.

    • @splash8429
      @splash8429 8 месяцев назад +2

      I mean last year has been good. They seemed focus, there was continuity, there was variety and all that

    • @MyBestPalJimbo
      @MyBestPalJimbo 8 месяцев назад +1

      Not to negate any of your other points but the Women's division is pretty great these days

    • @gojirajenkins8528
      @gojirajenkins8528 8 месяцев назад +2

      CANCEL PEACOCK
      BOYCOTT MANIA
      JUSTICE 4 CODY

    • @WhelmedButReady
      @WhelmedButReady 8 месяцев назад

      The WWE is in a great spot these days overall. Under Triple H's creative control, there's only a handful of talent or angles that fans would say he's dropped the ball on, but that'll be the case with any company. It just sucks that decisions like this were supposed to evaporate after Vince left, yet here we are

  • @javi__...
    @javi__... 8 месяцев назад +20

    Wwe clowning a guy that left before only to clown him when he comes back? Sounds like the same ol wwe to me. Is Vince actually gone?

    • @Youngjas17
      @Youngjas17 8 месяцев назад

      Ya he is gone which thank god he did leave 😂😂

    • @christophermarriott1681
      @christophermarriott1681 8 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@Youngjas17You can't take the spirit of Vince McMahon creeping in the shadows out of WWE, pal.

    • @robjazer203
      @robjazer203 8 месяцев назад +1

      Cody did smash the throne, though. Hunter McMahon never forgets.

    • @hezekiahramirez6965
      @hezekiahramirez6965 8 месяцев назад

      @robjazer203 I would think they're probably madder about the AEW stuff

  • @hellion7514
    @hellion7514 8 месяцев назад +9

    07:44 “It’s one of the most whatever it is.” - Dave Meltzer

    • @TromaDogg
      @TromaDogg 8 месяцев назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @mrplow8
    @mrplow8 8 месяцев назад +4

    If the intent was to turn Cody into a martyr, why did they book it in a way that made it look like Cody is the one who didn’t want the match at WrestleMania? I don’t believe that was their intent. If they wanted him to be a martyr, the storyline would’ve been that he got screwed out of the match some how. I think they thought that by having Cody say he didn’t want the match, the fans would be okay with it because it was what Cody wanted.

  • @ValSempai
    @ValSempai 8 месяцев назад +73

    The funny thing is, the people that don't know about it are gonna ask "why are they booing the rock" then after the explanation theyre probably gonna boo him too xD

    • @oelboy
      @oelboy 8 месяцев назад +7

      The millions of casual fans couldn't care less about the gripes of a few thousand online smarks.

    • @karma_coin
      @karma_coin 8 месяцев назад +11

      @@oelboy except that the WWE RUclips channel caters almost exclusively to casual fans, that's the focus of the channel (well, channels, there's more than one)
      and on that channel, which caters to casual fans, the face off video is WWE's most disliked video of all time by a huge margin
      this isn't the IWC smarks raging about the situation, this is primarily the more casual fans that are upset

    • @Vision32599
      @Vision32599 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@oelboytrue , the casuals ain't gonna care one bit

    • @ValSempai
      @ValSempai 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@oelboy just like the casuals didnt care about daniel bryan?

    • @keatonstemler5092
      @keatonstemler5092 8 месяцев назад +4

      Happen with my buddy. I was watching a Rock Cody video and he was like the rock is back and I explained and he was like yeah that is bullshit.
      Granted he was never gonna watch anyways haha

  • @andrewvaughan5686
    @andrewvaughan5686 8 месяцев назад +13

    wait so if the plan was rock vs roman and punk vs seth, what was the initial plan for cody at wrestlemania after winning the rumble? that doesn't make sense?

    • @TribalChief3000
      @TribalChief3000 8 месяцев назад +4

      The OG plan was not Rock/Roman until a few days ago. Dave just being Dave.

    • @andrewvaughan5686
      @andrewvaughan5686 8 месяцев назад +6

      @dreb4472 I think it was, why did rock do that promo on day 1 then?

  • @hezekiahramirez6965
    @hezekiahramirez6965 8 месяцев назад +3

    But what would Cody have been doing in the original scenario? Seth wrestles Punk, Roman wrestles Rock, and Cody... What does Cody do? None of this makes sense. There must be something else going on here. Maybe Rock is going to align with Roman and turn heel. It's just so bizarre. None of this adds up at all. There has to be more happening

  • @jarek6312
    @jarek6312 8 месяцев назад +2

    Night one: Rock vs Roman
    Night two: Cody vs Roman

  • @CarlSalts
    @CarlSalts 8 месяцев назад +20

    The best thing about this insane booking is that the Philly crowd will RIOT. Again 🤣

    • @DukeOfAllPixels
      @DukeOfAllPixels 8 месяцев назад +1

      Lol I totally forgot it was in Philly lol

    • @MotherHen2012
      @MotherHen2012 8 месяцев назад

      They won't riot... They will boo for a bit and WWE will just pipe in fake noise.

  • @7ebo
    @7ebo 8 месяцев назад +31

    Crazy to think if CM Punk would’ve won the Rumble, it would’ve been the perfect story. He got injured, the Rock steps in and gets a massive pop. Now he’s the biggest heel in the business.

    • @reeseangle9621
      @reeseangle9621 8 месяцев назад +3

      Facts

    • @nintendoconvert4045
      @nintendoconvert4045 8 месяцев назад +7

      Wow, that actually makes sense. But there would be some conspiracy theorists saying Punk isn’t really hurt and the Rock strong-armed himself into that spot.

    • @WhelmedButReady
      @WhelmedButReady 8 месяцев назад +2

      That's actually a great point. If Punk had won, it would've alleviated the stain of anyone looking like a chump because no onscreen commitment would've been made to Cody and so the Reigns match wouldn't have been set in stone. Yet another hindsight 20/20 moment in the world of wrestling

  • @louisjohnsoniii
    @louisjohnsoniii 8 месяцев назад +2

    Perhaps WWE may actually be one step ahead of the fans. Remember Backlash @ Puerto Rico? Arguably felt like the biggest PLE of the year. Cody vs. Roman at Elimination Chamber in Australia. Elimination Chamber will be similar to Backlash....but bigger because of the high possibility of Cody taking the title - he said it himself '....not at Wrestlemania'. Roman will then be fuming b/c the Rock stepped in and got involved. Roman wants to get rid of Rock. Rock wants to finish the actual story of ending the tribal reign of Roman = Wrestlemania 40.

    • @meekrob
      @meekrob 8 месяцев назад

      I hope you're right but I doubt it.

  • @Kratosx23
    @Kratosx23 8 месяцев назад +26

    I *KNEW* Cody wouldn't get a proper ending to this. Absolutely knew it. 39 was the time, they fucked it up, I knew something was going to happen, I just knew it. Nothing good ever happens in this company, and it's going to get even worse once Triple H is gone and Rock and his head writer who probably thinks exactly like Vince takes over.

    • @ThePindar
      @ThePindar 8 месяцев назад +7

      Exactly, the rock doesn't know shit about being a booker, he literally only got the job because of his Hollywood fame

    • @KickStaff
      @KickStaff 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@ThePindar Rock is the biggest star in WWE history you should be more grateful

    • @cervantesthenilbog7513
      @cervantesthenilbog7513 8 месяцев назад +3

      ​@KickStayou couldn't be more right.
      Cody is grossly overrated. His story is cliche and lame and superficial. Cody's fake emotion every week is on sociopathic levels of disingenuous.

    • @jayjaybirdsnest
      @jayjaybirdsnest 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@cervantesthenilbog7513 i legit hate cody, but even i can recognise this was TERRIBLE booking and he should have been in that match.

    • @ThePindar
      @ThePindar 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@KickStaff what does that have to do with the fact that he got a corporate job? He's just a charismatic wrestler and actor, knows shut about business

  • @BlakeAsheart
    @BlakeAsheart 8 месяцев назад +6

    Drink game: a shot every time Meltzer says "You know".

    • @meekrob
      @meekrob 8 месяцев назад

      That's a great way to get shit faced quickly.

  • @smokeaguitar3019
    @smokeaguitar3019 8 месяцев назад +2

    The Rock is trying to do something for the boys and the value of the company. Cody would be happy to take a good payday stay on salary whatever. Better than the whole thing crashing down. It is a business. Distraction time.

    • @DJSpike-ft9yw
      @DJSpike-ft9yw 8 месяцев назад

      He could have done that at any time. But no, he chose now at Wrestlemania 40 and inserted himself into a year-plus long storyline. No, he's doing this for him, to get the spotlight again and scratch that itch.

  • @jordanbyford2693
    @jordanbyford2693 8 месяцев назад +2

    So to be clear they booked it this way on purpose wow just wow 😂😂🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @crimsonfire6932
    @crimsonfire6932 8 месяцев назад +3

    At this point, Punk should’ve won the rumble. Injured as he might be, that would only screw up Seth’s title picture, not Roman’s.

  • @MIKKO-i1g
    @MIKKO-i1g 8 месяцев назад +6

    #wewantcody

  • @jethroortega4129
    @jethroortega4129 8 месяцев назад +2

    Cody: "I did it for The Rock."

  • @cosmicvcosmic
    @cosmicvcosmic 8 месяцев назад +3

    whats the point in being an "insider" and not report this if you knew about it for a month

  • @Mortallica03
    @Mortallica03 8 месяцев назад +1

    3 things why this match happend
    1 - They are trying so hard to moe the attention from the Vince scandal
    2- Rock vs Roman was teased years ago and whit movie productions resuming full force this year this was one if not the last chance of Rock doing the match
    3 - Once Glass Phil body broke...again! Night 1 needed a main event and Seth Rollins and the World Title needed a credible challenger...other than Cody there´s nobody else to challenge for that title

  • @JFirecracker
    @JFirecracker 8 месяцев назад +7

    _"And what's that? Out of nowhere, someone bigger than you comes in and takes it all away."_ Hilarious that Punk had a Moxtradamus moment after receiving _multiple_ Moxtradamus moments.

    • @lordshadow19
      @lordshadow19 8 месяцев назад +4

      I know he had that slight pause and followed it up with "and I mean me" but I think he really meant Dwayne.

  • @macaroniobama
    @macaroniobama 8 месяцев назад +3

    Regardless of fans booing or not on TV, WM is in Philly! 😂😂

    • @RandallWI
      @RandallWI 8 месяцев назад +2

      Yeahhh it's going to be worse than Brock vs. Goldberg from WM20 😬... can already hear the " 🗣 Rocky Sucks, Rocky Sucks, Rocky Sucks, Rocky Sucks " and " You Screwed Cody" chants already 😅😅

  • @karma_coin
    @karma_coin 8 месяцев назад +7

    the primary argument in defense of the decision you'll see is "well, the Rock is a bigger star than Cody" or something or along those lines
    which is a completely BS argument btw, how is WWE suppose to build fresh stars for the future if old stars keep stepping in and taking the spotlight? this isn't the first time, but this is definitely the most egregious example I can think of
    think about it this way, imagine if this was WWF WrestleMania XV, the Rock vs Austin in their first Wrestlemania title match, main event, during the build up Hulk Hogan quits WCW, comes back to WWE, and politics his way into the match to take Rock's place?
    I mean, why not? Hulk Hogan "iS a bIgGeR sTaR" 🙄

    • @cervantesthenilbog7513
      @cervantesthenilbog7513 8 месяцев назад +2

      Cody is an old star that took the spotlight though.
      And he's been grossly overrated since he came back to WWE. He was lame AF in AEW. Superficial and cliche. F his story, and his dad, and his theme song, and especially his wife.

    • @Snakeskin94
      @Snakeskin94 8 месяцев назад +1

      Because many of the wrestling fans who are currently wrestling fans have done everything in their power to hold younger stars back to hype up their old legends.
      They'll tell you that's not true, but they're the first ones to tell you there's no new stars when companies TRY to create new stars, and they only like the wrestling they liked as a kid.
      "Cody isn't as big as Rock."
      Ignoring that if Cody could finish his story and if talent was booked stronger and consistently, people COULD reach the Austin, Rock, Cena level. But they don't like to admit that.

    • @MrJonnyl123
      @MrJonnyl123 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@Snakeskin94 Cody will never reach rock/ austin/ cena level. He is too small for one and doesn’t have the charisma. He looks like a normal dude not a superstar. If Cody Rhodes walked into a bar he’s not turning any heads

    • @Snakeskin94
      @Snakeskin94 8 месяцев назад

      @@MrJonnyl123 you literally proved my point exactly; you can't let go of the past and embrace a new future. Just keep watching the same clips from 98 over and over again and leave the rest of us alone lol

    • @MrJonnyl123
      @MrJonnyl123 8 месяцев назад

      @@Snakeskin94 I can let go of the past. Roman is a top level guy for sure he has the look for it. Cody is just too small and dorky to be an A level guy.
      His ceiling is Jericho level at best tho Jericho had more charisma for sure. Nobody looks at Cody and thinks that guys a legit badass

  • @azman5267
    @azman5267 8 месяцев назад +14

    The only thing that makes sense is Cody wins title at EC (takes the championship from Roman with rocks help) and Rock takes the title of “head of the table” from Roman at Mania.
    No it’s not ideal, yes Cody should win at mania but that’s obviously not happening

    • @christophermarriott1681
      @christophermarriott1681 8 месяцев назад +5

      Makes no sense. Makes winning the Rumble pointless.

    • @darthmaul408
      @darthmaul408 8 месяцев назад +3

      Or Cody beats Seth and then unifies the belts by beating Roman at Summerslam. Again, I’m just trying to sort out the mess they’ve made here.

    • @101RadioheadCovers
      @101RadioheadCovers 8 месяцев назад

      Lol, cope.

    • @dashingdreww1185
      @dashingdreww1185 8 месяцев назад

      They not gonna have Roman drop the belt at like 6am in the US loll

    • @kudzimusar
      @kudzimusar 8 месяцев назад

      So why do people say Cody should just win like that? In other words jus give him the title of its for entitlement. I like Cody but stories aren’t determined by fans, otherwise every face should win for the sake of it..

  • @aarong3000
    @aarong3000 8 месяцев назад +4

    The Rock > stardust

    • @Kratosx23
      @Kratosx23 8 месяцев назад +6

      Two problems with that. This is not Stardust, it’s Cody Rhodes, and this isn’t The Rock, it’s 51 year old steroid addict Dwayne Johnson.

  • @michaelweston9772
    @michaelweston9772 8 месяцев назад +1

    I have a 12 yr old who is all about wrestling and wwe. When I told him about Wrestlemania he looked at me, said he didn't care if he gets grounded, and yelled "fuck wwe, and fuck the rock". He has since thrown out all of his wrestling shirts and is selling all of his wrestling toys. I think wwe lost at least one fan.

  • @armchairqb2994
    @armchairqb2994 8 месяцев назад +1

    Scott Steiner: You know they say that all men are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Samoa Joe and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally if you go one on one with another wrestler, you got a 50/50 chance of winning. But I'm a genetic freak and I'm not normal! So you got a 25%, AT BEST, at beat me. Then you add Kurt Angle to the mix, your chances of winning drastic go down. See the 3 way at Sacrifice, you got a 33 1/3 chance of winning, but I, I got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning, because Kurt Angle KNOWS he can't beat me and he's not even gonna try!
    So Samoa Joe, you take your 33 1/3 chance, minus my 25% chance and you got an 8 1/3 chance of winning at Sacrifice. But then you take my 75% chance of winning, if we was to go one on one, and then add 66 2/3 per cents, I got 141 2/3 chance of winning at Sacrifice. See Joe, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at Sacrifice.

  • @dootuss83
    @dootuss83 8 месяцев назад +1

    In one segment, they made Cody, and Seth look like clowns, and the WHC, and Royal Rumble match meaningless.

  • @kaisersoze6685
    @kaisersoze6685 8 месяцев назад +2

    Here’s the play: Seth comes out for his match and Cody no shows. Seth still wants a match and issues open challenge. Damian priest takes it. Then Rock wrestles Roman non-title for Tribal Chief. Rock wins, then Cody comes out with the MITB briefcase and also beats Roman for the belt. We later learn Damien traded his MITB for Cody’s title shot. Everyone wins. Well, except for Roman. Yes, I’m a genius and should write for WWE

    • @sandyunderpants4376
      @sandyunderpants4376 8 месяцев назад +1

      Now this is great booking. Paul Heyman should call you, or just rip you off if he reads the commetns.

    • @kaisersoze6685
      @kaisersoze6685 8 месяцев назад

      @@sandyunderpants4376 thank you! I’ve sent this DM to WWE and Conrad Thompson. Doubt I’ll get a reply but I hope so.

  • @nielgregory108
    @nielgregory108 8 месяцев назад +2

    30 million was also for lifetime use of his name and likeness.

  • @michaelsinger4638
    @michaelsinger4638 8 месяцев назад +1

    They could not have handled this any worse if they tried.
    The made Cody look like a total loser.
    They buried Seth and his title.
    Devalued the Royal Rumble.
    Ruined two years of storytelling.
    Made Rock look like an egomaniac.
    Etc.
    Just a complete misfire.

  • @jasonwood839
    @jasonwood839 8 месяцев назад +6

    TKO wanted to lose a fan. Mission accomplished

    • @mothertrucker341
      @mothertrucker341 8 месяцев назад +3

      Your sacrifice will be legendary. Rest now brave warrior

    • @DK-BayBay
      @DK-BayBay 8 месяцев назад +1

      lol of all the shit that happened in wwe over the years, a fake wrestling match is where ppl draw the line. not vkm rape or anything like that foh

  • @Leth1ferous
    @Leth1ferous 8 месяцев назад

    Men's chamber could easily be for #1 contender for Gunther's IC title. Bron Breakker vs Jey Uso vs. Nakamura vs Bronson Reed vs. Andrade vs Ivar would work for me. Plenty of other guys you could add instead.

  • @jesterr7133
    @jesterr7133 8 месяцев назад +2

    This was a stupid move on WWE's part. Yes having the rock on the show is a huge money match. There's no question about that. The problem is that it's a one-time thing. They had the opportunity to put Cody in a position where he could draw them money for years to come. They might have just blown that opportunity

  • @armandogomez2677
    @armandogomez2677 8 месяцев назад +1

    This is the problem with wrestling “fans” they want to see something happen but then will complain it was predictable. Just watch the movie and enjoy the ride if you don’t like it don’t watch

  • @spitfire7953
    @spitfire7953 8 месяцев назад +1

    This match should not happen at Wrestlmainia. 2 year build up for Cody vs Roman 2 and all of a sudden Rock shows up and faces Roman for the title at the main event at Wrestlmainia. And they didn't except the fans to boo the Rock? The fuck were they thinking? They just wasted all the fans time and investment into the story doing this. And they recently edit the segment with a butchered "This is awesome" chant over "We want Cody!" chants.....Is Vince really gone from the company?
    They either have to fix this, the sooner the better or Philly is gonna rip Wrestlmainia apart.

    • @christophermarriott1681
      @christophermarriott1681 8 месяцев назад

      There's no way to fix it. Roman Reigns ain't losing the belt because WWE wants Hulk Hogan's record broken.

  • @85futureshock
    @85futureshock 8 месяцев назад +1

    I don’t think there is a form of entertainment that hates its fans more than professional wrestling. Dwayne better have an oxygen tank nearby because he will be sucking up so much air that the front row will be gasping.

  • @Jay-fp7oq
    @Jay-fp7oq 8 месяцев назад +13

    Cody is already revisiting the nakamora beef again 😂

    • @axelkristoff
      @axelkristoff 8 месяцев назад +3

      That was so lame man

  • @cnegron621
    @cnegron621 8 месяцев назад +2

    Mens chamber match will likely be to face Gunther, really the only option

  • @dariussparkes7080
    @dariussparkes7080 8 месяцев назад +2

    Meltzer knows bugger all haha… literally has stated every possible outcome, so how could he ever be wrong? Lmao. Certainly doesn’t know anymore than we do. Wouldn’t be surprised if this turns into an angle.

  • @Daewonnni
    @Daewonnni 8 месяцев назад +1

    Turn Rock heel if these marks want to complain. He is on the committee that owns WWE. The real head of the table.

  • @Yeetster138
    @Yeetster138 8 месяцев назад +1

    So they are doing this to beat hogans record? Ridiculous they need to have Roman drop the belt to Cody at mania

  • @jamesstewart8377
    @jamesstewart8377 8 месяцев назад +2

    There has always been this inside thing going on throughout wrestling. It created the Attitude era with the Montreal Screwjob, maybe there is SOMEONE in the company that knows how to capitalize on this. It seems like it is perfect for blending reality in with it and using all this backstage drama on television. I highly doubt they will but they should.

  • @moonmanmcsungod765
    @moonmanmcsungod765 8 месяцев назад +1

    Its funny how this years wrestlemania was shaping up to be awesome and now its just become a total shit show last minuet lol

  • @jesterr7133
    @jesterr7133 8 месяцев назад +3

    I don't understand why they don't just have Roman work both nights. Do the rock one night and Cody the other. Have him beat the Rock on night one and then have Cody go over on night two

    • @rapturedbretheren7
      @rapturedbretheren7 8 месяцев назад

      This kinda works but it does diminish the WHC title of Seth even further. You're just making it become more of a secondary title.

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@rapturedbretheren7Have Cody face Seth for the WHT. Roman face Rock for WWE Title. Then Roman and Cody Title for Title. Cody wins. Next night on RAW Cody announces he won't unify the belts and take the easy way. Instead he will defend both. To keep WHT as the "Worker's" Title. And to bring integrity back to the WWE Title.

    • @DJSpike-ft9yw
      @DJSpike-ft9yw 8 месяцев назад

      @@kevinlee9929 This...actually could work. Just have Roman and Cody do double duty.

  • @BlackStarGabusGaben
    @BlackStarGabusGaben 8 месяцев назад +1

    Couldn't have The Rock vs Reigns vs Cody 😂😂

  • @MrJonnyl123
    @MrJonnyl123 8 месяцев назад +11

    Hope Rock brings back the Corporate Champ gimmick and starts crapping on all the fans 😂

    • @DevlinSmiley
      @DevlinSmiley 8 месяцев назад

      That would be absolute gold lol and actually be a good way for him to feud with Cody

    • @kudzimusar
      @kudzimusar 8 месяцев назад

      Haha 😂

  • @aromega10
    @aromega10 8 месяцев назад +1

    Yet they'll draw more money than YB ever drew in their whole career.

  • @HikarusukeShindou
    @HikarusukeShindou 8 месяцев назад +1

    The rock is so selfish he only cares about himself and nobody else but himself

  • @kf660
    @kf660 8 месяцев назад +1

    No idea what everyone's in an uproar about. The moment Rock appeared on Jan. 1 Raw and said he wanted a seat at the table, it was obvious that he was going to be Roman's opponent at Wrestlemania. There's no question the match had been made. Heck, they wanted the Rock v. Roman last year for Wrestlemania , but he was unavailable. This thing is a year in the making. Why did Cody win the Rumble? Probably just to cement his status moving forward post-wrestlemania. But it wasn't to set up a match with Roman at Wrestlemania.

  • @andrewclayterman6230
    @andrewclayterman6230 8 месяцев назад +1

    Rock is getting 30 million to lose? WTF!!!!?

  • @michaelsinger4638
    @michaelsinger4638 8 месяцев назад +1

    No one wants to see Cody vs. Seth again. The fans on Raw last week made that VERY clear. And there’s nothing to gain by it no matter who wins in the end.
    Alvarez is right, Cody is already the biggest babyface in WWE. They don’t need to do all
    This BS TO “try and make him more over.” That is stupid.

  • @MrKGHunter
    @MrKGHunter 8 месяцев назад +1

    WWE fans will never learn. They always screw ya.

  • @QuackMamba34
    @QuackMamba34 8 месяцев назад +1

    If the decision was made January 3rd they could of at least had Rock win the Royal Rumble. Then him getting a title match is at least justified.

  • @MrKGHunter
    @MrKGHunter 8 месяцев назад +1

    Hey how about that great, long term booking?

  • @shredenvain7
    @shredenvain7 8 месяцев назад +1

    Are we sure Vince got fired?

  • @jeffreybrege7672
    @jeffreybrege7672 8 месяцев назад +1

    Well they may make more money in the short run,but I think in the long run it will hurt them.

  • @Glitch_in_the_Matrix
    @Glitch_in_the_Matrix 8 месяцев назад +1

    Meltzer sounds less credible every podcast

  • @matthewcoronado5071
    @matthewcoronado5071 7 месяцев назад +1

    Marks and y’all got worked, crazy fr

  • @scribesntribes
    @scribesntribes 8 месяцев назад +3

    #WeWantCody

  • @PhillipAlexanderGBW
    @PhillipAlexanderGBW 8 месяцев назад +1

    #WeWantCody #ScrewTheRock #WWEScrewsCody

  • @marquisneal5480
    @marquisneal5480 8 месяцев назад +1

    Dave... Of course they cheered him in Birmingham. They didn't know he would be there. Rock vs. Roman is fine but THE WAY THEY GOT THERE is the problem!! Most wrestling fans want Cody to win the championship.

  • @MrReganomics1
    @MrReganomics1 8 месяцев назад +2

    Dave, in your own newsletter last year you said the plan is for roman to pass Bob Backlund and be the guy who is second to only bruno. Why is everyone shocked Cody isnt facing Roman at mania? Do they really wanna watch Cody count the lights again...

  • @lovelywaz
    @lovelywaz 8 месяцев назад +1

    "...Until a BIGGER star comes back and steals your spot."
    Just like in 2014, if anyone remembers that! 🥱🥱😴😴
    The People's Chump has come back to...... Steal dreams and nightmares. 🤨🤨🤨🤨

  • @GypsySoulProductions
    @GypsySoulProductions 8 месяцев назад

    This feels exactly like Arnold Schwarzenegger defeating Mike Mentzer in 1980s Mr. Olympia and getting booed by the audience. Was a big Rock fan but not anymore. No more a People’s Champ, Mr. Rocky Maivia. #wewantcody

  • @user-zk8jd3qx2o
    @user-zk8jd3qx2o 8 месяцев назад +1

    Can’t they do Rock/Roman night 1 for the head of the table and Cody/Roman night 2 for the title?

    • @meekrob
      @meekrob 8 месяцев назад

      A buddy of mine came up with the same idea.

  • @DavidC-fk2wg
    @DavidC-fk2wg 8 месяцев назад +4

    Rock v Roman is obviously the match they should book for Mania 40 but they have gotten to it in just about the worst way imaginable. Cody stepping aside makes him look like, in old money, a B+ player.
    Just have Rock win the Rumble from number 30 (after Cody has been cheated out of his win by the Bloodline) and then build towards him winning the title in MGS later in the year. Basically anything but this.

  • @manuelmacias5192
    @manuelmacias5192 8 месяцев назад

    I’m curious to see how the coming reactions for rock and Roman will be and if it’s a negative reaction they may change things

  • @thesoskofactory8619
    @thesoskofactory8619 8 месяцев назад +1

    #WeWantCody🎉🎉

  • @cosmicvcosmic
    @cosmicvcosmic 8 месяцев назад +1

    saying its only people online after the segment replay got boo'd at a live event and graphic got boo'd at the NXT PLE

  • @dus10Bish0p
    @dus10Bish0p 8 месяцев назад +1

    Dave Meltzer is the worst.

  • @chillbest14
    @chillbest14 8 месяцев назад +1

    Dave don't know sh!t 😂

  • @infinitetranquilo
    @infinitetranquilo 8 месяцев назад

    So it’s Cody vs Seth? A match we’ve had 3 times before, and Cody’s beat Seth THREE DIFFERENT TIMES?!? Back to back. Why is there any interest to this. If Seth wins Cody looks lame, if Cody wins well…a 4th time? Yippee! This sounds awful all around. I like the rock, Dwayne is great, but now? Roman is the undisputed final boss of Wwe rn, and Wrestlemania is the greatest Wwe show of the year, so we’re losing the biggest babyface be biggest heel for…what? I’m sure the show: awesome, but these main events are…shady. If they swerve us in some way to make it a triple threat, well….i just don’t like that idea. We didn’t need to boost Cody’s babyface momentum, he’s the guy, we all knew that.

  • @gregthegroove
    @gregthegroove 8 месяцев назад +3

    Guys….the show went off the air with nobody saying a syllable. Can’t we wait to see it play out? Who knows what’s going down. Seriously. They’ve been mentioning doing things we’ve never seen and ground breaking stuff. Rock v Roman is just the beginning of something apparently. I for one would *loooooooove* love love Hollywood Rock to come back due to all this Rock backlash. Somehow or another, Rock screws Cody and says you really think I was going to turn on family?………..(bust him up with a steel chair ) Spits on Cody and says that’s my cousin. My family. My blood. 😂😂😂 I’m such a fn mark. But F it.

  • @Gokulosestoavirus
    @Gokulosestoavirus 8 месяцев назад

    WWE just became the Rareware of entertainment.
    Look at it like this. They had Banjo Kazooie.
    They created the perfect game, and when the world wanted more, they gave Nuts and Bolts.
    That’s basically what they did with Cody.
    They had the perfect formula for Banjo Threeie, and we got Nuts and Bolts.